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tribal wharf
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so i don't try to update things unless they offer it for me or it doesnt work lol

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no, i have like, 4 different programs that open with wow for me at start

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im trying to remove some of that

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loose track of which things have what settings.

ebon geyser
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is so satisfying leaving a place where i was just a number or a toon and not a person...

mellow quartz
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to go play wow where you are just a toon?

ebon geyser
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i never felt part of the team. or included i was there but i was not there for them i guess

woven estuary
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what are the recomended professions for warrior?

lusty grotto
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whatever

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professions dont make or break a class, this aint classic

woven estuary
lusty grotto
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what

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yeah no

woven estuary
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its been a while 🙂

lusty grotto
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ive been bs/mining since tbc

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have never changed it

pallid quiver
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The closest to any kind of benefit would be the random jazz you can use from engineering for QoL/speed boosts and alchemy for longer flasks so you spend less money

lusty grotto
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engi/mining in vanilla

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i basically only went bs for stormherald lmao

dusky canopy
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So I’d def recommend alch/engi

lusty grotto
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engi doesnt matter since theres a consumable now

dusky canopy
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There’s a reliable battle rez consume?

plush tendon
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Engi has perks that helps reduce battle rez malfunctions

pallid quiver
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don't believe their lies

lusty grotto
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none of this matters

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at all

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not to the extent of gem bonuses like he mentioned

dusky canopy
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Flask duration and engineering gadgets matters to me

pallid quiver
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i'll have you know i saved a lot of gold from extra duration flasks, thank you,

plush tendon
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if you are doing M+, you could make the case that you want to be a Night Elf Warrior with certain profressions

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so you can do all the dungeon things

lusty grotto
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the point is theres no power gain from any of them

pallid quiver
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money is power, nim

lusty grotto
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in real life maybe

mighty valley
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just do one that your friends/guild are lacking. or one that makes you feel cute. if that's literally nothing, sure flask duration sounds nice

dusky canopy
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No power gain is true all though you could consider the reduced effects of corrupting rage last expact to be a power gain because it enabled you to safely use the Crit flask as a dps during prog

plush tendon
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and in wow its true

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you just need a lot of it

lusty grotto
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also we dont know if this guy is doing myth prog

dusky canopy
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Have not even remotely given thought to alchemy benefits outside of flask duration for TWW

lusty grotto
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to that end ill extend, myth prog guilds provide cauldrons

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and you of all people should know that brew

dusky canopy
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Yeah we get two flasks and raid 3 hours so with the flask duration it lasts the whole time and I don’t have to buy an extra for each raid night

mighty valley
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what if op is in the poorest but highest skill mythic prog guild and needs additional flask duration or their bus will explode. did you even consider that

lusty grotto
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we're arguing semantics

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point and simple there's no througput gain

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youre completely misunderstanding what hes asking

dusky canopy
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No profession matters that is true,
I simply stated what I recommend and why.
Also we’re not arguing, friends debate.
There’s a difference

woven estuary
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@lusty grotto i understand now thank you for explaining

jagged pier
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peak gameplay

crimson furnace
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i am having revenge waaaay higher then Demolish....

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fuck me!

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back to the drawing board! 🙏🏻 for me, Argentina

jagged pier
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u could be right i might be under using revenge

red beacon
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What are you thought on War for M+ S1 as of now ? I feel really strong and all 4 DJ in thé first rota are warrior friendly. Maybe it's our Time again

mellow quartz
jagged pier
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tbf i did just find a wild prot with BSV talented

mellow quartz
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Could have used that in the priory earlier. Died to a 3.5m holy shock thing lol

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To many mini bosses etc

tribal wharf
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didnt they turn off set bonus

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or tomorrow

lusty grotto
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weve told you wednesday like 3 times already

tribal wharf
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ah, well, i forget things

autumn roost
dusky canopy
autumn roost
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Sorry was that too much

dusky canopy
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It’s fine I’ll still chat here anyway

pallid quiver
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not like they were pressing the talents they already had talented

jagged pier
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i mean its still not a cheat death

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it probably wouldnt save them

pallid quiver
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they didn't get one shot, so it might've

dusky canopy
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Shield block is optional

jagged pier
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well it is for colossus

pallid quiver
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revenge big spender, big numbie

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shield slam for pussy

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playing mountain thane

jagged pier
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i will when it makes sense

red beacon
pallid quiver
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i mean, prot war is among the easier tanks to play and can have decently front loaded damage for dungos, too

dusky canopy
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It’s definitely in the top 6

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I’d play it

lusty grotto
waxen frigate
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No

lusty grotto
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yes

ornate thicket
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Wtf is that lol

lusty grotto
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i just wanted to do a Nish post

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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lmaooo

ornate thicket
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Well itll look hilarious in my sea of video game youtube history

dusky canopy
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Can’t wait for the algorithm to get ahold of that one

lusty grotto
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jesus lol i cant stop laughing

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i had to stand up, but i keep imagining nish having a folder or some shit with all these dumb images

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and then i remember the dumb fucking video i posted

waxen frigate
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Nah it’s literally all just unorganized in my camera roll

lusty grotto
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xD

waxen frigate
dusky canopy
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Man finds memes in the camera roll at random

lusty grotto
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i have a fucking meeting in 30 mins and i swear to god ill remember it during

dusky canopy
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Swipe down super fast and then randomly hold thumb

waxen frigate
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Like august 2022 has a lot of good ones

dusky canopy
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Wicked memory

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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ROFL

dusky canopy
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FAT NUTS

tribal wharf
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pov you came to canada

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crash with moose is usually super serious unless in a 18 wheeler, will completely destroy car or pick up

waxen frigate
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Thank you for the information! I’ll be more observant for moose on my next non-18 wheeler trek through Canada.

tribal wharf
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a moose is like 3 times the size of a deer

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for reference

fallow nova
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Meanwhile the moose is, at best, inconvenienced by your high-speed tin can.

dusky canopy
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Wait you don’t commute in an 18wheeler?

fallow nova
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Moose are terrifying IRL

tribal wharf
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now imagine that thing gets mad at or you collide with it in car

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has trample and charge mechanics, parry, lots of hp and armor

round cliff
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we use intim shout now?

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for why

dusky canopy
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It’s an aoe stop cast

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Not as useful as DF

round cliff
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dont things chain cast now tho

dusky canopy
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Yeah they do so that makes having more aoe stops that much more important

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The more your group has the more you can chain them

mellow quartz
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Even with things chain casting you will find stops are still very important.

bleak skiff
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Does anyone has drop fps after thunderclap ?

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I do have from 200fps to 100 when I use thunderclap

ornate thicket
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Yeah the 100fps turns into extra 100k dps each clap

dusky canopy
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Twilight Devastation my beloved

frozen egret
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Bro, and my 571 neck that came bugged with more stats look

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lmao

tribal wharf
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i still remember using twilight dev cuz it would no clip through TD prison gates and aggro mobs for count

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one of the very best uses i ever found

warm plinth
rose pier
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which darkmoon deck should we pick ?

dusky canopy
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Sounds like there’s a cache that drops a neck with the same amount of stats as if it was two at once

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That might be the one

lusty grotto
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his is bugged for sure

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should have 3627 secondary budget

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and his has 5078

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the crit alone is doubled

frozen egret
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this neck you get from a quest on hallowfall

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that gives you this 571 neck

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i got the neck on all my toons

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and only on my main prot warrior

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it came like this with 5k stats

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its like 600+ ilvl neck

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and came with extra mastery lmao

lusty grotto
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the extra mastery is the least wrong with it

frozen egret
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i dont know if i should upgrade more this neck

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because it doesnt have haste

bleak breach
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Blizz will just bug fix it anyway

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Fun for now though I guess

warm plinth
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If it wasn't going to be fixed, it wouldn't matter.

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But not worth upgrading because it will 100% be fixed.

bleak breach
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^

lusty grotto
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what the fuck do the glyphs do now

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they dont give dragonflying points

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did i miss something?

warm plinth
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There are achievements for them but the main reason for them is so you can get the points without having to go fly around dragon isles

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If you haven't gotten them all yet or are a new/returning player

lusty grotto
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oh as a catch up in case you didnt play DF or something?

warm plinth
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Yessir

lusty grotto
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ok gotcha

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was driving me crazy last night

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"what the fuck is that sound"

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and then i remembered and saw one

warm plinth
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I've been getting them just to shut the sound up

tribal wharf
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wtf is ride along mount

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its something you can select

lusty grotto
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someone can hop on you

warm plinth
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It let's people turn into a little dragon whelp that automatically flies with you. It's the dragonriding version of a passenger mount basically

lusty grotto
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its the same thing as the NPC in DF, where you can toggle that on

tribal wharf
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2 person basically?

lusty grotto
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except you dont have to talk to the npc anymore

jagged gust
warm plinth
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Yerp

lusty grotto
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its more than 2

warm plinth
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Is it? I could never fly with someone if someone already was in NO

lusty grotto
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pretty sure the M Fyr mount can have more than 1 person, but i could be wrong

tribal wharf
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could be cool if guild could band together, 100M gold goal, giant flying guild size airship with all the works, able to hold entire raid

lusty grotto
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ffxiv has 8 man mounts

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they are literally flying whales

warm plinth
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Hey that's me except I can't fly

tribal wharf
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but maybe its like, it only can take you and the guild between the main city and a chosen raid

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and not flown manually

lusty grotto
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anyway im pretty sure im wrong, and its only 1 person only in WoW

warm plinth
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Considering I've been yeeted off my fair share of passenger mounts with just one, I'll pass on the guild one lol

tribal wharf
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im just gunna say it

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like a final fantasy air ship

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we all know what i mean

jagged gust
lusty grotto
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speaking of whcih

tribal wharf
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pirates isnt a bad idea, but then its underwater and everyone hates underwater levels

lusty grotto
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why hasnt jordan rejoined

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we already got Atticusw, Harrow and Rorsch back

warm plinth
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Idk but let's not

lusty grotto
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we're missing jordan, QUITfango, and Ikari

jagged gust
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I thought nomer finally made him walk the plank

warm plinth
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Love Jordan, but don't like being in disc servers with them

lusty grotto
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who

warm plinth
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Quitfango lul

tribal wharf
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i know the name not the person

lusty grotto
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nome made quitfango walk the plank?

warm plinth
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No

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I was laughing at what you called him

lusty grotto
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lmao

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i mean

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now that hes not here...

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you know he has ragequit a key with me and my friends on more than 1 occasion right?

warm plinth
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I assumed they were inaccurately referring to Jordan

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That's unfortunate

lusty grotto
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rip bull, you will be missed

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he ragequits over his own mistakes btw

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like he dies twice = rage quit lmao

jagged gust
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Been there

lusty grotto
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and its happened more than once

warm plinth
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I can't decide if that's better or worse

lusty grotto
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in 3 different expansions

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the first time we thought it was a fluke

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and then the following ones we just fucking laughed cause its so absurd

jagged gust
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3 hours in to fyrakk prog, charge in, charge yeets me into the void realm, immediate FF

lusty grotto
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yeah but fyrakk is not a running key lol

foggy sparrow
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Are there any WAs/addons that track how much physical vs magic damage you have taken over the last couple seconds?

jagged gust
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True ffing a key is such bm

lusty grotto
dusky canopy
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Bullfango that’s the name I couldn’t think of

tribal wharf
dusky canopy
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M I A

warm plinth
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I remember doing guldan on ww and I rolled like 70 yards before I ended up going off the platform

tribal wharf
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its a speed run, you have to do or die and if you activate the die path, have to find way around it

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it will be painfully obvious when the new "you die and 15 seconds is added to timer" affix goes live

warm plinth
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What is ff

rare kraken
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Is it a good idea to Thunder Blast with Violent Outburst or still best to use Shield Slam?

tribal wharf
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FF = call for surrender

lusty grotto
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xff

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is a twitch emote

tribal wharf
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i forget why shortened to FF

rare kraken
lusty grotto
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just look up xffing

tribal wharf
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right lol

tribal wharf
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but, you probably heard it as ff@20 from league and it was the meme so you discarded it

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thats mostly whre i see ppl use term FF

lusty grotto
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but yeah what will was saying is just forfeiting

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(but also xffing)

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😎

warm plinth
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I have never and will never play league

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I want to remain cancer free

tribal wharf
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nah i never called it xff in my life personally

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surrender vote leads to doomer anyways some times

lusty grotto
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xff is just a xeno thiing

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xdd is the other one

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they just fucking stretched that meme all the way to africa

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but i think xdd is the original

dusky canopy
tribal wharf
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i should mod splinter cell to accept controller

jagged gust
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Yes

tribal wharf
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cant be bothered to play it on kbm, not to my liking

jagged gust
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I've been using kbm since I was 6, I just can't use a controller the same

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That being said some games just feel wrong without a controller

tribal wharf
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that and play fall out / orcs must die, bought those, aint played them much yet

foggy sparrow
tribal wharf
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totally depends on the game

foggy sparrow
jagged gust
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Yeah damage wise it outscales ss at like 2 targets, but the rage gen is still like 4? Times higher with SS

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That's a variable I have no idea how to calculate

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But I'm pretty sure bloodsurge carries your rage gen in high aoe situations enough already

rare kraken
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Gotcha thanks folks

sudden totem
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Sorry for late reply but you were 100% right, colossal might only triggers off of revenge with reverb talented. Thanks for this.

tribal wharf
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i should try more colossus

lusty grotto
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i like it

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its fun

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obv not gonna run it later on but still

tribal wharf
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what i really want it for is arms

lusty grotto
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using it for leveling is pretty good

tribal wharf
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smash something in the face for million dmg

mellow quartz
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Dawnbreaker is actually a good heroic dungeon as you can do boss 1-2-3 right after each other and just ignore the mini bosses

bleak breach
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Yo yo homies

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Any of these dark moon decks good for us?

jagged gust
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are they ever?

bleak breach
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I mean they could be better than what’s currently available, so just checking if any are worth grabbing. They’re pretty cheap too

lusty grotto
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ascension is probably a good pickup

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mwahi mentioned as much

bleak breach
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Thanks mate, I will grab one tonight.

urban bane
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ara kara sac brood and skarmorak shard are currently available though, no?

bleak breach
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Even if it’s just for a month or 2 it’s still good for the price

urban bane
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Easy enough to farm those

lusty grotto
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he asked for darkmoon trinkets

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both of those should be available in capped ilvl sure

urban bane
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spend weathered crests they'd be like 593

dusky canopy
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Darkmoon trinkets just got balanced

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Didn’t fully read the post just saw wowheads notification

lusty grotto
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theres been no change to aascension

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symbiosis/radiance got buffed

dusky canopy
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Ahh yeah then prob still ascension

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Pretty sure they’re dirt cheap

lusty grotto
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vivacity got a weird shift into tertiaries

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and lowered secondaries

shrewd ore
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symbiosis feels pretty good, had like 90% uptime on 5 stacks

lusty grotto
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yuck versa

bleak breach
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Yeah, most expensive one on ah is 7k I think.

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Even if I only use it until week 1 of raid release, that justifies that small a spend for me.

lusty grotto
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7k is nothing

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so yeah its a good investment

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im def not doing it, but its not a bad call

rigid hull
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pre bis mythic doenst matter right

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just get haste crit and send

shrewd ore
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well that is kinda pre-bis xd

bleak breach
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Doesn’t really matter too much. If there’s bis trinkets from dungeons you would still preferably grab those though.

lusty grotto
rigid hull
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just realised i have this talent

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actually pog

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always wanted this shit in dragonflight but ye

tribal wharf
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its a bit of a let down, doesnt add real dps, and the slow isnt so much usefull

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you'll have the mobs within the normal clap range if you are playing correctly anyways

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so it can be spent on something that will boost dps

pallid quiver
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there's not much of anything that boosts dps with that point unless you've taken from something you shouldn't have

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but you can put it into another slot, yeah; I don't like the extra move speed reduction on it myself, so I don't usually rock crackling thunder

tribal wharf
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im still wearing a version of 2pc so im stil doing bleed build till tomorrow

umbral coral
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I find this node very comfortable

tribal wharf
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illegal talents

pallid quiver
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you're gonna need bolster if you're getting bsv

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otherwise you're defeating the entire point of getting bsv

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I throw the crackling thunder point into rumbling earth for shockwave, for the record

tribal wharf
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way ahead of ya

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just plugged em all in but the actual talents are set now

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i'll import the Ckeys if someone ever makes one of those talent builds >.>

vocal flame
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Is there a threshold still for taking into the fray? I dont remember the number

mellow quartz
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To high to worry about for a long time

primal igloo
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Sorry if this is stupid to ask but I checked prot faq's and icy veins couldnt find a proper comparrison thats why im askin,is revenge our best spender even in single target scenerios(excluding ignore pain ofc,just speaking for dmg spells,like vs slam)

vocal flame
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ok so take HR then right? i justu thought aobut that when switching gear lol

tropic tangle
mellow quartz
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Whirlwind and slam are not used

primal igloo
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Got it thanks!

vocal flame
pallid quiver
round cliff
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i know i should do my best to avoid it

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but what do i do if im in a situation in aoe where outburst is up but my tclap is on like a 4 sec cd

warm plinth
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You press shield slam

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You need quite a few targets to make it worth pressing TC over SS for outburst

lusty grotto
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the only way you use outburst on TC is if its TB

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youre gonna need 8 targets to outburst a vanilla TC

round cliff
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i thought u use outburst on TC on 2 targets??

lusty grotto
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no

round cliff
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damn

lusty grotto
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never

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2 targets you send on SS

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SS > TB on ST as well

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and 2 targets is kind of in that area

round cliff
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i figured that yea

patent sedge
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was curios is it possible to playu excute raid single target build ? does it a lot of damage saw it somewhere but not sure where

lusty grotto
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so whichever is up

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execute single target build? thats literally our raid build

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have you checked wowhead and icyveins?

knotty mantle
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Why does prot warr execute hit so hard now?

lusty grotto
patent sedge
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was brainless -> m

lusty grotto
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go to wowhead

patent sedge
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mb

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yea i have haha just blind

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totally forgot where i saw it thats all :'

lusty grotto
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not just prot

round cliff
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fury execute still noodly

lusty grotto
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hmm i wouldnt know i hate fucking fury

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i arms in raid

soft tusk
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do we have bis trinkets?

lusty grotto
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in week 1?

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sure

soft tusk
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yeah from dungeons

lusty grotto
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sacbrood

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skarmorak

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thats it

soft tusk
lusty grotto
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yes?

warm plinth
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jk jk ily

lusty grotto
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i have a feeling youre gonna have to go back to your "all stats" nick

vocal flame
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NIM

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I JUST SAW YOU

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didnt get a chance to bow

lusty grotto
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yo

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im leveling at a snails pace

pallid quiver
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meanwhile, 5 level 80s

lusty grotto
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whatever satisfies my ADHD

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its at ludicrous speed rn lmao

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"oh look a quest"

vocal flame
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what kind of mog is that haha

lusty grotto
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"oh look, mines!"

vocal flame
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is that a fish

lusty grotto
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yes that's Stewart

vocal flame
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that is so cool

lusty grotto
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trusty stewart has carried me since we met in BFA

vocal flame
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haha the chef hat too

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love it

lusty grotto
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of course, chef nimchip

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😄

vocal flame
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cant belive i saw you in the wild, i feel special

lusty grotto
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lol

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arthas is a small world

pallid quiver
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That's how I felt when I saw Yogi

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he didn't respond back when i said hi tho

warm plinth
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@tribal wharf yo wtf

pallid quiver
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to be fair
my character name has zero relation to my name in discord, so

vocal flame
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wasnt always like that but now yeah

pallid quiver
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it technically does as it's based on an old dnd character's full name of Luerce Nuever

fathom chasm
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hey guys
new to prot

bloodsurge have inner cooldown?

warm plinth
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I'm sure it has a small one. But it's just a % chance on bleed event

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7% iirc

lusty grotto
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its 10%

warm plinth
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Oh is it?

fathom chasm
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so it can proc two times in a gcd?

lusty grotto
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sure

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its not ppm

fathom chasm
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op

lusty grotto
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not really

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thats why its the talent to drop for disrupting

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its okay

round pendant
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insomnia on reset night with 2 hour maintenance

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so sad

mellow quartz
tribal wharf
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oh i didnt see the message or know who it was

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i should have responded but i didnt

pallid quiver
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It's okay, Yogi, I still love you

vocal flame
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YOGI!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Hope all is well

unreal lily
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Should we save the whethered crests or use them up? The ones that drop in heroics

dapper spade
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i think use them

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u wont need that for anything else i think

unreal lily
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Ok thanks!

dapper spade
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u can craft some missing gear with them

soft tusk
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I heard people say that this item is bis

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but why wouldn't this item be better?

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it gives me 4563 crit

warm plinth
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Well, my immediate guess would be that a. the shard has a full time benefit, not just an on-use, and b. it lines up with two of our cooldowns (spear and ravager)

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It's also only bis because we have like nothing available rn

kind glen
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ew spear

elder tinsel
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Im trying to find the information for this but I cant really find it (might of overlooked it) Do we know what % we swap from percussions to Into the fray?

warm plinth
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35% before buffs

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So we got a ways to go. It'll be a pretty hard number to hit this season.

elder tinsel
#

Ok cool, thank you very much

robust urchin
#

Also priory isn't in the s1 rotation anyway

lusty grotto
#

its mostly because of that

#

besides bis doesnt matter its week 1

warm plinth
#

gottem

mighty valley
#

ghash is so back

robust urchin
mighty valley
#

lmao... bro is scared of the warmth of human connection

robust urchin
mighty valley
#

it's massively multiplayer

#

some of the most human connections there are

robust urchin
#

Nuh uh blizzard says I don't need to have a guild to have fun I can do delves and story mode raid

mighty valley
#

that's cool

warm plinth
frozen egret
#

Looking sharp or no boys?

#

Full BiS for now no carved crests spended

lusty grotto
#

congrats, youre ready for next week

frozen egret
#

🫡

loud patrol
#

man those early levels are insane

#

but im worried after seeing the rest with such low dmg at lvl 79

edgy bone
#

Does this give rep?

mystic stag
#

anyone know if any of the darkmoon decks are good for prot?

tropic tangle
#

they're cheap and fine for now

prisma quiver
#

sup guys, newish to prot.

am i ok to just not have avatar keybound, just have it on my ravager macro

pallid quiver
#

Considering you press Avatar infinitely more often than ravager, that's not the best idea

prisma quiver
#

right, but i can still use the ravager button

pallid quiver
#

Especially since Avatar is intrinsically linked to your rage generation, both if you're Thane and if you're talenting unstoppable force

#

but you'll also need to use ravager separately from avatar for pulling

prisma quiver
#

ahhh thats true actually

#

yeah, ty

pallid quiver
#

And you'll also need to save ravager for starting pulls, while sending avatar now

autumn pawn
#

Do we have anything that hinders us from using shield slam 3 times in a row or thunder clap several times in a row now?
Like before we would use clap into shield slam to trigger tier set.

But is there any extra dmg interactions like so now that i missed?

soft tusk
#

Guys, what is our best embellishment?

south zealot
#

oh i ddint see both trinkets were at 590

#

i guess not

ionic fern
#

And here i am still at lvl 78.

frozen egret
# south zealot i guess not

Yea, i chose to not craft every single gear piece because of gold, im not wasting like 500k to throw all this gear away when season 1 starts

south zealot
#

thats understandable

#

i just did weapons too

#

was just saying that bc u said bis

frozen egret
#

Oh yea yea

#

Im currently top 19 world ilvl

#

Top 5 area52

jagged gust
#

absolutely dunking on them pugs

frozen egret
#

Its fine

#

Bro, im top damage every single heroix

#

Prot is crazy rn

#

I think they will nerf it

jagged gust
#

nah, prot just feels crazy good

#

we're solidly middle of the pack

heavy swallow
south zealot
#

prot is very bursty with avatar into double thunder blast

#

so its not surprising

ionic fern
# frozen egret Prot is crazy rn

We're not even the highest DPS tank. 👀
HC numbers mean nothing, stuff just dies in an instant, half the DPS classes can't even get their damage out due to the nature of Dot's.

jagged pier
#

but demolish goes BRRR

eager phoenix
#

guardian and vdh doing some dam

frozen egret
#

Man, how people are crafting so much 590 items look

#

Top 1 ilvl warrior

#

11 crafted items

jagged gust
#

farm them crests

frozen egret
#

what you mean? the cap is 180 isnt it?

#

how he got 330?

#

from renown?

jagged gust
#

the "uncapped" rewards yeah

#

They're super lenient about them apparently

frozen egret
#

the uncapped rewards is the crests you get from renown

jagged gust
#

I have like 230 and only like 50 of them count towards a cap

frozen egret
#

or other stuff?

jagged pier
#

there was a bug that allowed u to do that

#

some ppl got reverted

frozen egret
#

dude is 587 exploiting bugs

#

and im 585 clean and fair

jagged gust
#

I have zero clue how they accumulated tbh, I literally just did quests and weeklies

frozen egret
#

doesnt matter how, is bug exploiting.. what ever..

#

this all will mean nothing when season 1 starts

jagged gust
#

yep, no reason to gear rn other than your own personal achievement

#

Which is rewarding in itself, mowing down those weekly quest mobs like nothing

frozen egret
#

now im doing the same on my DK

#

dont know if i should do it on my guardian too

lusty grotto
#

bro Alyza Bowblaze is the fucking goat

#

lmaoooo

jagged gust
#

girl bossing all over those dweebs

lusty grotto
#

jesus fuck lmaoooo

plush flax
#

is it worth getting some crafted gear atm ?

lusty grotto
#

anything you do now, will be invalidated in a few weeks

#

so its entirely up to you

plush flax
#

thanks for the advice ❤️

cinder nova
#

Am I crazy or did my Demolish just fall off the damage radar?

#

Between 71-74 it was critting for upwards of 600K+

#

now it's barely wheezing out 200K

shy python
#

Yesterday my last hit critted for 1 mio

lusty grotto
#

same stacks?

shy python
#

10

lusty grotto
#

asking S

#

you must be crazy

#

no demo, no avatar, 10 stacks

#

lvl 78 as displayed above

cinder nova
#

I just got capstone

#

Might have been the mob I was biffing around, it wouldn't be the first time I accidentally face-checked an 80 mob while underleveled and just ground it down slowly.

urban portal
#

i dont think thats possible

#

i thought everything is just scaled to you, or 2 levels higher at max

#

but +2 levels are reserved for raid bosses

cold wasp
#

there are specific mobs that are always levle 80, and certain rares

lusty grotto
#

yup pretty much Ronin

urban portal
#

got it

#

i dont really pay attention to levels

lusty grotto
#

oh i thought you were talking about K Values

#

yeah i did 80s since getting to khaz

#

npc armor might play a part

#

but K values shouldn't

#

disregard, im tired, k values shouldnt even be in this conversation

#

armor does however

white mauve
# cinder nova now it's barely wheezing out 200K

Level scaling was all outta whack. At 80 I was trying to keep up with level 70 ret paladins pulling the entire dungeon at once and nuking it whilst I was wheezing for health when they came after me

#

Blizz applying a hotfix which everyone is crying about as it’s seen as punishing non early access players

urban portal
#

theres some penalties for hitting mobs that are higher level than you

lusty grotto
#

that shouldn't affect demolish throughput

urban portal
#

even disregarding everything

lusty grotto
#

yes

#

its armor based

urban portal
#

its not armor, armor is 30% for all pve content

#

its just another multiplier in the formula

lusty grotto
urban portal
#

asking in the simc discord right now

lusty grotto
#

even if it doesnt change, its usually a multiple of npc level

urban portal
#

i know for a fact that any physical damage is doing 70% of tooltip give or take 5% variance

#

so even if it is armor, the modifier is based on a level difference

lusty grotto
#

agreed

torn gulch
#

90 the cap plus 135 from renown

hearty stump
#

Are the tier sets no longer working?

lusty grotto
#

they still are for me at least

#

but im NA

#

pretty sure itll happen after reset

hearty stump
#

But the reset already happened at least in EU. We've got the weekly quests active

lusty grotto
#

daily quest reset

#

not vault reset

hearty stump
#

Oh!

lusty grotto
#

we got ours several hours ago

south zealot
#

they have maintenance at 7 am pst

lusty grotto
#

there you go

south zealot
#

2 hour maintenance

#

lol

lusty grotto
#

they have to maint

hearty stump
#

rip

lusty grotto
#

its not a change they can do hotfixed

south zealot
#

maybe blizzard services will finally start working again

round vortex
#

Anyone else happy they kept shoulders and gloves in the bags for the death of 2pce haha

hearty stump
#

I'm sat on like a 16-20 ilv upgrade waiting for that to happen

crimson furnace
#

finished the dungeon with a 750k overall

#

but everyhting was dying super quick

analog lantern
lusty grotto
#

it was literally a blue post

analog lantern
rose pier
blazing condor
#

once season begins

jagged pier
#

i mean theres no point in overcapped stones

#

but theres also no point in spending stupidly

lofty warren
#

i finished campaign and im only level 56 what is the fastest way to finish levelling?

blazing condor
strong forum
#

Buying the most recent expansion would help

cold wasp
#

He's playing Cataclysm Classic At Home.

blazing condor
#

in that case go outlands

cold wasp
#

I hear Dawntrail is really good, maybe go there.

lofty warren
#

this one is 56 and i see world quests. WQ available = done right?

tender cove
#

Downloading wow at work. Acceptable speed haha

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

im snitching to IT

tender cove
#

Im my own boss haha

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

OF model detected

tender cove
#

1.5gbit connection was a must, the staff cannot browse 9gag at slower speed

blazing condor
#

is 9gag still a thing? i havent heard anything about it in 10 years

tender cove
blazing condor
#

how about you take a "propa ganda" at work

tender cove
#

Haha

strong forum
#

Everything is propaganda

tender cove
#

Very true.

#

This might be the best idea ive had in years. Playing wow at work when its not rush hour. Can play all day long haha. Stroke of genius xd

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

just go full unemployed degen

hardy snow
#

Blizz servers are unable to give us such download speeds

marble cipher
#

Wasn't tier set gonna be disabled today? (EU reset, maybe NA was disabled yesterday?)

jagged gust
#

yep

toxic pewter
#

disabled at lvl 80 can still level with it afaik

lofty warren
#

why is shockwave not used for mountain talents?

tender cove
autumn pawn
torn gulch
#

carved crests will be able to raise your items to 606 you might want to wait to push some m0 gear with that

#

or normal raid gear

strong forum
#

I ain't sending any crests

torn gulch
#

the small crests are fine

strong forum
#

Until mythic raid gear

torn gulch
#

carved keep them

#

eh weathered crests do not really matter

strong forum
#

Weathered is only for the sub-HC raid gear right?

torn gulch
#

the smallest ones

#

weathered-carved-runed-gilded

strong forum
#

Yeah okay so carved is also free-send

#

Cuz gear that's from below hero track doesn't matter

#

Runed and gilded is for hero/myth track

#

And weathered carved for lfr and normal

#

In terms of raid difficulty

torn gulch
#

yes

strong forum
#

Ye so ig, you don't wanna send carved on HC Dung gear

#

Cuz m0 gear still benefits from carved ye okay I get it now

#

Just don't overspend those valorstones

#

You wanna stay high on those for raid gear

torn gulch
#

yea 2k valorstones going in the season

hardy snow
#

but you can farm valorstones from everything

strong forum
#

Yeah and that sucks

hardy snow
#

like, one arena skirmish gives 10 and it takes few min max

strong forum
#

Right

#

And you need up to 30 skirm wins

#

To upgrade 1 item

#

FUN

torn gulch
#

you can get 10 valor per wax

#

infinite

strong forum
#

Yeah nah I'd rather stay as high on stones as possible

#

Cuz grinding stones is infinitely worse than crests

#

Cuz you get stones at a lot slower rate

torn gulch
#

i think grinding wax

#

is pretty good for valor

strong forum
#

What's grinding wax CRY2

torn gulch
#

similar to df drit grinding

hardy snow
#

I dont care about grinding, Im just playing and enjoying the game and they pop up in my currency tab by themselves 🤷‍♂️

torn gulch
#

dirt*

jagged pier
#

er dont do that

robust urchin
torn gulch
#

wax is everywhere not only ringing deeps

robust urchin
#

"Snuffling" I think it's called

strong forum
robust urchin
torn gulch
#

and the valor is from giving wax to the vendor near the wax weekly in ringing depths

#

10 valor per wax

robust urchin
#

Per 5 wax

torn gulch
#

per 5 wax

strong forum
#

I'll try to remember

torn gulch
#

true

#

tbh a good heroic group might be the play for valor

robust urchin
#

Disturbed dirt on the ground and it spawns an event depending on the event you get 1 or more wax

#

It's usually just one but sometimes you can get up to 10 wax per dirt

torn gulch
#

it's like 10 valor per boss with 30 at the end on heroic right?

strong forum
#

No clue I just know I'm not even capped yet

#

And I've not spend any either

#

And I've been playing for like 6hrs at lvl 80

#

Not a good outlook

robust urchin
#

I upgraded 2 of my weapons and am back at 1500 stones

#

Actually I think delves are pretty good for stones too

hardy snow
strong forum
#

I spammed 3hrs of HCs yesterday

#

Lotta duplicates and 0 trinkets

#

Also apparently crit hard outsims haste even at sub 10% haste

robust urchin
#

I got all sorts of shitty trinkets

#

I got the rookery one 3 times

strong forum
#

Also no shields

hardy snow
#

Ive got lucky, cause guildie traded me ara-kara sacbrood, with avoidance instead of leech, but its still cool okayge

strong forum
#

That's sick

#

Wish I had ara ara sac

torn gulch
#

is that THE trinket this patch for us?

#

we want it at 639?

hardy snow
strong forum
#

Everyone wants ara ara sac

#

Literally everyone

hardy snow
#

that means Blizz will nerf it sadge

strong forum
#

Probably maybe

zenith vigil
#

U know what I want nome

#

Spell block to have it's own section in defensive cool downs

strong forum
#

A fulfilling life

zenith vigil
strong forum
#

Maybe today

zenith vigil
#

Das what I want

strong forum
#

I was exhausted after dungies

zenith vigil
#

take ur time

strong forum
#

But I already know what I wanna write

zenith vigil
#

Tho tbh the answer is probably "is spell reflect not up? Click button"

strong forum
#

"spell block - block but for spells" and then a paragraph explaining it

zenith vigil
strong forum
#

Hm I could probably even write it at work, after work

#

Just quickly go onto pc and yeet

zenith vigil
robust urchin
marble cipher
#

Blizz might have only disabled the S4 tier sets, I'm using the S3 one (which is the same set, but different itemId's I assume)

toxic pewter
#

they haven't disabled the tier sets yet afaik should happen sometime today

marble cipher
#

aah, k

outer zephyr
#

Protection

fading tide
#

So if I have spell block and shield block up at the same time should I be immune to all dmg?

jagged pier
#

shield block doesnt make u immune

#

and nither does spell block

#

blocking only reduces damage by about 30-40% based on the block value of your shield

#

crit blocking physical damage is an rng chance to block more than that % upto 85%
and with magicial it can go 100% but also rng

waxen frigate
waxen cradle
#

I ended up getting a Sacbrood its just normal, but I really enjoy it

#

need to try and get a heroic version of it until M dungeons open if I can

marble cipher
#

When you can, just get a group and farm first boss in HC over and over, very quick, and you'll all have the trinket after a few runs

dark plover
#

@jagged pier are we upgrading sacbrood and sarmorak trinkets to 593?

jagged pier
dark plover
jagged pier
#

i wouldnt upgrade anything until raid gear and m+ gear

#

well

#

i would upgrade to not over cap flightstones

dark plover
#

Yeah I’ve done that to all 580s at least

#

But wondering about the crests

bronze pasture
#

I guess for raid bosses the sac would win

dark plover
jagged pier
#

u can upgrade if u want Im not here to tell you what to do i dont pay your sub

bronze pasture
#

oh yeah the damage is negligible, i wasnt even considering that 🙂

bronze pasture
#

im spending everything

dark plover
#

I’m around 20% uptime of sacbrood in dungeons more or less

dark plover
upper osprey
#

hello guys do you have a macro casting both champion spear and ravager on cusror ?

#

i tried and it did not work

jagged pier
#

of course it wont because they are both on the gcd

#

so the macro wont work

upper osprey
#

can't we do it wirh a cast sequence ?

jagged pier
#

commonly if they are on the gcd spells dont like it at all

upper osprey
#

k ty

dusky canopy
vast bronze
#

anyone got an auto marker that works as a WA

strong forum
#

You can do cast sequence macros

#

But idk

#

Not a fan of cast sequence macros

jagged gust
#

they're silly is all

cerulean tusk
#

For things that is always a set sequence, it ain't the worst idea ever. As it makes it more brain-dead and no mistakes in order are done due to lag/input

You just then got an extra button on your bars for it

dusky canopy
#

Damn another early access L blizzard

jagged pier
#

thats a typo

cerulean tusk
#

Hm? Change is better gear from now on

jagged pier
#

it used to be 567 or somthing apprently its 571 now or somthing

cerulean tusk
#

Not even blizz care about their names and ranks, just know gear be 'better'

dusky canopy
#

Ye lol now people gotta farm it twice

cerulean tusk
#

I mean, gotta is a very strong word before m0 releases

dusky canopy
#

Well, I think if they’re already 580 you probably don’t need to bother

jagged gust
#

I have made a good 500k from patterns dropping from dungeons, I ain't worried about more grinding

#

thats where my inner goblin shines

dusky canopy
cerulean tusk
#

580 PvP gear ftw

dusky canopy
#

I’m only going to grind the renown items because they’re basically free from doing all the quests in each zone

#

Grinding heroics

#

Couldn’t be me

jagged gust
#

take your pick of which dungeon do you think you're gonna random in to that has a 50% chance of everyone getting lost in

dusky canopy
#

I thought it was just me

cerulean tusk
#

Each comp stomp is 3-8 min, que is instant, you gain 1k gold and 35 valor

PvP best farm atm gladge you even get to chose your stats on the gear

waxen frigate
#

Yeah but heroic dungeons with the guild is fun

rain light
#

finally got it

waxen frigate
#

I managed to get a “I’m struggling ;-;” out of our RDruid last night

toxic pewter
#

lol

dusky canopy
#

Struggling means there’s a bit more hps to be squeezed out

hearty stump
#

So at what point is it worth popping crests for gear upgrades?

#

Or does it even matter at all?

#

Since you kind of unlock that track for the piece that you're upgrading and for all future pieces

#

So is it even worth holding onto like the lowest crests?

#

As they won't really be used in the higher gear upgrades

marble cipher
#

To each their own, but, I'm just sending the lowest crests to upgrades

dusky canopy
#

You can use the lowest crests yeah

#

They will be trivialized as soon as raid and delves opens up

waxen frigate
hearty stump
#

gotcha!

waxen frigate
#

I think we had like 1.5mil combined group healing on the pull after first boss of priory

#

Did all of it together xan

dusky canopy
tribal wharf
#

i only got on really pleb gear atm

#

mostly explorer and adventurer

dusky canopy
#

AH BoE gang

#

Rise up

lofty warren
#

dumb question but how to do you get to other areas from island of doom?

dusky canopy
#

Fly down the big tunnel in the main city

jagged gust
#

or take one of the elevators in the north and south

crystal mauve
#

Good morning! Anyone would know if you can modify the text from the bars in big wigs? I would like to remove some of the name ability and replace it with a description. Ex: Fire breath to be replaced by Frontal.

soft plume
#

@patent osprey i just came back to the game what talents u planning to run for m+?

tribal wharf
#

i got this goin on atm, DMD for ilvl

jagged gust
#

shadowed essence

#

I vendored that asap, what does it actually do?

tribal wharf
#

4 digit secondaries (2000 i think) for x seconds, 1000 ish main stat for x seconds or about 100k dmg hit

#

supposedly it spawns a dude that chooses to do 1 of those 3 things

#

apparently, it might be one of those things for 28 seconds, so probably once every 2 to 3 minutes?

jagged gust
#

Well as long as it's ilvl, should give you a little day 1 boost once that's the only thing that matters soon enough

cosmic dagger
#

Guys i have a Bad Feeling that " Thunder Blast" will be nerfed 😁 im literaly 2in DPS on big pull going over 2M DPS ez. What u think?

jagged gust
#

prot needs buffs

jagged pier
#

nope its hcs

cosmic dagger
#

Ofc with Bad Gear 578

jagged pier
#

things die in 5 seconds

#

dps cant damage as things die before they can do anything

#

we are also on the low end of tank damage

#

so if we get nerfed u should see most of the other tanks nerfed too

cosmic dagger
plain haven
#

can you put shield block and shield slam in one macro? Will that impact the overall defense?

jagged pier
#

yer if u look at other tank sims

#

we are low

jagged gust
jagged pier
#

well not even that

#

u will just overspend SB

#

and then not have it

austere oar
jagged pier
#

somewhere probably

plain haven
torn gulch
#

playing with 13% haste is so painful

tribal wharf
#

how we feeling about HR vs ITF

#

same as old?, what is that even... after 20%? no 30% im pretty sure, haste

#

thats all i ever truly remember, we start offaround like 20% and then it goes to 40% over the expac and then reset haste level

ionic fern
jagged gust
tribal wharf
#

well i d know the break points for losing haste points is around 20 30 40% right

#

and thats always huge discussion here

jagged gust
#

first dr is 30% I think, but somewhere between 30 and 40 is the turning point

#

for itf

tribal wharf
#

the guy jakey responded to, it sounds like might not always have SB up, which we want to, and theres some constant argument about HR or ITF, typically itf

#

i have a really abysmal amount of haste baseline atm

jagged gust
#

with HR it's kind of impossible to let SB drop

#

Unless you're just outright not pressing SB then the macro does help, but obviously the best answer is to practice and not have to make concessions like that in the first place

fading tide
#

D stance is full time now instead of using it as a CD

austere oar
#

You still are in b stance

jagged gust
#

and lose 3% crit?

#

Madness

tribal wharf
#

angry shaman is angry about resets

slate hornet
#

hello all, one quick question, is now crit more important now than vers_

fading tide
#

3% crit is better then 16% reduced dmg? I know it was better when we lost 10% dmg reduction

fading tide
austere oar
#

3% crit is better than more tankiness that you don't need

tribal wharf
#

i have a MH orc shaman named luulmore

#

i should play him more

tribal wharf
#

for the name

#

thats what i love about runescape, you are just your character and you choose the world you want to log into, there is too many players, i will go to another world with less players

floral trail
#

Hey, im going to play prot in raid and m+ but also need to play fury in my m+ group cause someone other is tanking. Will it be big if a problem if I commit to haste mastery (or better: sim myself for fury) or is there some other „sweetspot“ to aim for in this scenario? raiding is pretty slow (no CE guild) but m+ will be as high as possible for us in the beginning.

jagged pier
#

wont matter

austere oar
#

Secondaries are an end game goal

#

Your first objective will be to be as high ilvl as you can anyway

#

And there's no bad stat for prot

jagged gust
floral trail
#

ok thanks all then I won’t worry to much about this

tribal wharf
#

ivl = main stat >>>> secondaries >>>>>>>> terts

#

coerrect secondaries and a tert is just bonus and icing

jagged gust
#

I'd take speed over mastery if I could

tribal wharf
#

we would still advise against it and bonk you for it lol

jagged gust
#

Ive been riding my S3 high of 22% speed and I ain't never coming down

violet ginkgo
# jagged pier u will just overspend SB

Oh but what about if you have that SB then SS macro but also have SS separately? like the idea is same like IP, to snipe the SS reset? So when you need to press shield block and then somehow the SS reset we can snipe it?

jagged pier
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u can have that

quiet zenith
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does anyone can recommand a good basic wa for warrior?

strong forum
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@zenith vigil spellblock is added and rotation page expanded

jagged gust
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Block, but for spells!

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Strong start

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I like it

dusky canopy
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@lusty grotto did you beat campaign yet!?

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||Candle quest line is so bis!||

austere oar
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Dementia quest line tierlist

violet ginkgo
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I am still at lvl 78 Brewjj, just enter the hallowfall campaign.

remote tusk
dusky canopy
violet ginkgo
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Well the zone view is... amazing not gonna lie, especially combined with "There is something like that underground"

jagged gust
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Hallowfall was such a treat

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that first time you fly in

twilit burrow
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I'm newer to prot. I feel like in the dungeon content im generating so much rage that im constantly dumping it into IP that really should be devaste. Also is shield slam procs ighest priority to spend?

violet ginkgo
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yes always press SS

dusky canopy
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So two things

violet ginkgo
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bash your shield to enemy's skull

dusky canopy
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You don’t want devastate because you should have the talent that makes that button passive

twilit burrow
violet ginkgo
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Revenge you mean?

dusky canopy
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Also pressing IP a lot to prevent your rage bar from capping is normal

twilit burrow
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yes

dusky canopy
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Oh revenge

remote tusk
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Always IP

dusky canopy
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It’s normal to not press revenge often because IP is a better spender

jagged pier
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well now that depends on what hero talent your playing

dusky canopy
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You only revenge if you can’t press literally any other button to fill that global cooldown

remote tusk
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Iirc Revenge only on proc vs aoe/cleave and if nothing else to press

jagged gust
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proc doesnt matter

dusky canopy
austere oar
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I press revenge on CD when running Colossus in big pulls peepohide

dusky canopy
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I always assume people play what’s best I forget that’s not always true

twilit burrow
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I'm playing mountain thane

strong forum
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you dont care about the free proc

waxen cradle
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Playing Mthane also, feels good being a thundering warrior with all the lightning

violet ginkgo
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well for thane it's easy, revenge is just used to fish the SS reset.

strong forum
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feel free to check out the wowhead rotration page!

jagged gust
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I'm gonna miss these first few weeks where I can just spam revenge and TC on half a dungeon worth of mobs

fair narwhal
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if we're going elemental focusing lens for embellishments, is there a specific slot I should be crafting that onto?

jagged gust
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usually wrist

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and/or cloak

fair narwhal
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fantastic, thought it might end up being jewelry specific so glad that's not the case

strong forum
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focusing lens BARELY wins

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as embellish

fair narwhal
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i'm an ape and only really care about single target raid damage so it seems like the move

strong forum
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it only wins by like 100 dps

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*in bis

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if you got fuckall gear then yeah its probably alright

mellow quartz
# strong forum feel free to check out the wowhead rotration page!

You out here telling people there are no rotational changes in aoe but then also demo shout first global after you charge in before casting spear.
What about waiting for the mobs to get grouped up and not thunder clapping means no aggro etc 😏
Clearly the rotation guide should have minimum 5 scenarios that COULD happen to be useful /s

strong forum
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but the crit/vers ones are far more universal

fair narwhal
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i am only playing my warrior through week 2 of the season so I will deffo have fuckall gear

strong forum
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rotation has nothing to do with how you should play m+

strong forum
cerulean tusk
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Anyone know of a way to make Demolish number pop on screen? It keeps getting hid behind bleed numbers, so no dopamine on use sadgers

pallid quiver
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Put a sticky note on your monitor than just says "Won Gazillion damages"

cerulean tusk
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I dont have any

pallid quiver
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Then suffer

tribal wharf
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its 2024 old man, post its are ancient relics, we use phones now

pallid quiver
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Yogi's right; type "Won Gazilllion damages" on your phone and staple it to your monitor

waxen cradle
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now there are digital sticky notes though