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easiest way would be to just luck into a mythic raid boe week 1
anything else is either high initial starting point, high effort, or quite low return
So if I'm going to overcap rage and both thunderblast and revenge are available -
Do I revenge to avoid overcapping?
you press ignore pain
IP
and should have been pressing IP
also revenge is always available if you aren't rage starved, as a random nitpick about the scenario
Heck, on top of that, using revenge might not even spend that rage if you have a proc that makes it free
Yeah, but im not taking a ton of damage, IP kinda waste
Yeah, so revenge
Do you have any idea how much of the kit interacts with spending rage?
no
Like I just said
wrong lmao
no, no and NO
you might not even spend that rage
IP is a better rage dump, and it's off the GCD
You will lose damage and survival over time by trying to do it that way, as you're losing GCD economy, you're losing potential rage gen by having TC on CD longer, you're losing out on CD recycle from AM from not having been properly cycling your rage,
I just don't get how at a max cap, or near cap, IP shield is worth burning rage on IP and not revenge
The entire point of IP is meant to cycle your rage economy while giving you a side benefit of an absorb shield
Assuming revenge isnt free
You shouldn't have fucking capped
Ah ok, so it's always IP
You can press IP whenever
because it dumps more rage, it's off gcd
Revenge is a last resort method to refresh SS to kickstart the rage machine again
The big rares with abt 50m hp drops that. The small ones with 6-7m drops crap.
And even if IP would overcap, simply spending the rage so you can generate more faster is a good usage of IP
It interacts with:
Anger Management
GCD efficiency
Violent Outburst
Indomitable
Ok, so it's really about spending rage
Not the shield
is there a list of them?
Your overall goal is to generate rage and spend rage without wasting any
You will get absorb shields from IP as you do this, so you don't need to think about it in almost every scenario. In everything doable right now, every scenario you don't really need to think about it
As long as you're properly cycling your rage, you'll have IP to help slow what trickles past block
bc you have other abiltiies you want to hit instead of revenge
This is also why a lot of guides that have been coming out that recommend TC as your highest prio button have issues is because they're generating shit tons less rage
This is very helpful, thank you
I've been wasting rage on TB
Since I've put it higher priority
Yeah, there's not much thinking, adapting or anything related to playing Warrior outside of "me get rage, me spend rage"
CDs go on CD, SS > TC > Revenge is your prio in bot AOE and ST
The only optimization past that is to make sure you send Outbursts on SS over TC,
shield slam will pretty much always be your highest priority button bc it
- generates more rage. more rage is more avatars and shield walls through anger management.
- more avatars is more thunder blasts and more rage, more rage is more avatars.
- more shield walls through impenetrable wall.
- faster outbursts because youre generating more rage, more rage is more avatars, more avatars is more thunderblasts.
but sending an outburst on TB in ST probably isn't even terrible for you, either, so if you're not used to spending rage, it's probably fine to just ignore it for the moment
Even over TB?
thunderblast should be used on aoe for outburst instead
Even over TB in AOE except with outburst ready
I thought Violent outburst was TB
you shouldnt use it on a regular thunder clap though
No, Violent Outburst is a talent that's effectively the SL S3 tier set
When you spend enough rage, you get a buffed version of either SS or TC, whichever you use next, that gives double the rage and triple the damage
Thunder Blast just procs when activating Avatar or at random when sending Shield Slam
Since Thunder Blast is an enhanced Thunder Clap, you can send outburst on Thunder Blast
So the skill expression is the send outbursts on Thunder Blast if possible in AOE, Shield Slam otherwise
also TB over SS even outside outburst in aoe if you have 2 stacks
you never want to sit on capped stacks so your SS cannot proc a new TB
Alright that's pretty straightforward
@strong forum has the above been proven better than trying for SS resets via sims yet? I haven't kept too much track
i tried doing a quick search with messages from him about stacks but it was mostly dungeon talk smh
thanks boss
whirlwind still bad on prot right?
is there anything we can do about micro-stuttering on thunderclap? there's no way my pc shouldn't be able to handle that
turn down graphics settings
Yes
extremely bad, so much so that i regularly request it gets removed :S
if i had discord nitro i'd do what he does, i think his name is normal gash
well duh no shit
its about as useless as shield block is on arms/fury, you'd only ever use it, to great dissapointment, as a last resort
but what if sword big like shield
okay sick just checking
Wait, what do you mean? You can change your nickname without Nitro; you just can't do the server specific ones
yes but then it would appear across all discords
and this is a general discord account, rather than i join 1 - 3 servers
nitro, u can make ur name specific to the discord lobby whatever server you are in
:think:
i could be mistaken but im 99% this is how it works as i described
when you buy nitro, you can do what i said, before that, all servers
v/m puke lol
loll
A someone explain scaling to me? From about 70 to 76 I was able to pull full rooms of mobs and feel unstoppable then it got a bit more difficult and by 78 I felt like I was getting hit pretty hard. I really noticed in priory of the sacred flame more than any of the others
Can*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLWVYa1dk_k @lusty tiger
Dissing harder on Kermit the Frog
the more you level, the less your rating is worth
you need more rating to match up to what you have
more levels, lower the value of an X amount of rating
At level 70, 170 rating is 1% haste. It takes 660 rating to get 1% at 80.
☝️
Alright thank you guys. It was fun being unstoppable at the lower levels. I'll have to gear up some more. Felt like Diablo play style at first lol
I wish they had done a stat squish for the xpac and started us back around 50k or so health. At 4 million health and crazy damage numbers the numbers almost feeling meaningless
Wow that's insane!
or was it just millions and they squished it down to under 10k
I forget
to long ago
can't remember exact numbers, but wasn't SL the last squish?
yes
wouldn't be surprised if they did it again in midnight, or the one after
For sure they do it again in midnight
the numbers at the end of thi xpa are gonna be huge
they sad as much
that if it came, it was in Midnight
a few months ago in an interview
both
sl was ilvl and lvl squish
that's right, forgot totally about the level squish
we would be lvl 150 right now without it XD
we going ilvel over current tier or waiting
current i mean old tier from dragon land
end boss in Legion raiders doign 2m dps, end boss in BFA they doing 90k, end boss in SL they doing 18k
endgame legion was beyond dumb lol
definitely
take a higher ilvel piece even if it breaks old tier? thats cool right?
think the 2 pc probably holds up until they deactivate it lol
ah ok ty
hopefully they just rip it tomorrow or Tuesday
anyone has a guide where the important rares (the ones with adventure gear) are located?
probably some weak aura floating around if you ask high end players nicely
Struggling with the way Thunder Blast procs, the internal CD of thunder clap .... it's like it procs - and it takes extra long to become able to be used. Am I wrong? Something about the interaction is wrong.
Or is it because it "procs" but does not become available right away - which is not typical of abilities that proc.
Pretty sure it only gets reset when you Avatar?
Yeah TB transforms TC, it doesn't reset it, you can get a proc and not be able to use it for several seconds
So if you popped TC then SS and it procced a TB, you still have to wait out the CD of TC to use the TB buff
Specifically the wording "Your next TC becomes a TB"
yup, same deal with the lightning strike giving 2 free SS, if SS is on CD it isn't available until recharge
isn't that odd though?
thats not the way things typically work in the game.
it feels - off.
eh, these are just separate procs, you already have SS resets from your standard rotation and TC on avatar + reduced cooldown during avatar
it also probably feels doubly worse because we just went from 40 something percent haste to ~20 before gear is optimized
It is kind of unusual, yeah
Poor people timer, nice. Not long to go. Let me just log in and sit in Valdrakkan.
the i refuse to give into blizzards 4 day ransom timer
So what is it about mountain thane that makes us take spear over dragon roar in m+
Dragon Roar capstone adjustment (nerf to words) + it lines up well for the crit damage with Thane's damage options
The dot doesn't really benefit anything else and is just kind of damage
Gotcha, thank you
wild
i ran into a prot war tank while levelling my shaman who couldn't live a normal dungeon boss
it's amazing what not pressing shield block does
yikes
So is mountain thane just that much better than colossus? Or is it fairly even?
The only thing it's competitive in is damage
nome has an article explaining the differences in wowhead
https://www.wowhead.com/news/protection-warrior-hero-talent-showdown-in-the-war-within-colossus-vs-mountain-345818 sorry here you go
Any idea on what the m+ embelishments are going to look like?
the crit one looks good, otherwise wait 3 weeks
Question where is the spear used in M+ on bosses?
Crit / Vers ones.
What do you mean?
You use it like you always use it. 👀
Doesn't matter if it's on a boss or on trash.
Guys is Genshii the creator of Spell Reflection Tracker Aura here in discord ?? @fierce juniper
Hi guys ! What Darkmoon Deck would be good for us? Symbiosis seems legit I think
Yes, he is, but not sure how active he is about updating it currently.
Probably Ascension.
a random stat instead of 1k+ Versa?
What do you give up to take disrupting shout?
bloodsurge
yes
Yes. Vers has a higher rating requirement than other stats to get 1%.
isn't it our n°1 stat in priority stats? Not at the start of xpac?
Okay mate, thx
Hello. So this first week the goal is to lvl up 80, do campain, up renown to 8 on all faction, grab the 594 epic gear from vendors and thats pretty much it aint it ?
What's the consensus when it comes to thunder blast procs atm? The icy veins & wowhead guides differ on this entirely as far as I can tell in the rotational section. Icy veins guide has the following highlighted bit:
the gear is irrelavent from the vendors
Where as the wowhead doesn't make any special mention of thunder blast outside of violent outburst procs
Is it highest prio as per icy veins, or normal thunder clap placement in rotation as per wowhead?
Figure this might get asked a lot seeing as both guides are pinned 👀
its as it says
just ping Nome and tell him if he needs to clarify
for the wowhead guide
As it says as per the icy veins guide?
yes
aight
heres his commentary
if you wanna go through it first
remember you can always search discord
Looks like he's mentioned updating it so I'll leave it at that
from:nomeratur in:#protection keyword helps
Heads up: seems to be a bug atm that shields aren't dropping properly in the loot tables. Confirmed with sham, pala and warr in guild. So if you find one boe keep it
I've reported to blizz via ticket system

whats the best dmc trinket for us?
does bountiful delves have increased baseline loot compared to a non-bountiful one? what im wondering is, if i dont want to spend the coffeer key, are the 2 happy meal chests bigger
Don't bountiful delves need to be done with a key?
I've got no clue rn what to do at 80 so your guess is as good as mine
u can do em without using the key, only diff is that u have another chest spawn if u got key in bags
and I guess that chest which will be opened by the key contained juicy loot?
adventure loot from what i found, so 571
yes, the key opens a more rewarding chest but not worth spending until s1 begins. but i was wondering if there is a baseline difference. since both non-bountiful and bountiful flagged (so far) have always included 2 chests that can be opened w/o key. i was thinking if the 2 non-key chests are juicier if the delve was bountiful compared to if it wasnt. i could test i suppsoe but was hoping to avoid that
Hello, no.
Is it possible to make a macro that will prevent a buff from being cast if I already have? For example I want this for shield block to prevent my jitter fingers from double tapping it
/cast !shield block
not sure f that will work
/castsequence reset=X SpellName, null
it stack so
Id get HEKIL or Weak Auras
that would lead to SB downtime, that's not a good idea
Only reason you would ever worry about double tapping shield block is at very end of a pull
It stacks and having even small downtime can lead to death
Even then it's not awful, we don't have to worry about SB much when HR is talented
The worst that'll happen is you'll rage starve yourself for 2-3 seconds
HR?
Heavy Repercussion
Not to mention damage loss to our most important ability in shield slam
dont need the haste from into the fray?
we don't have enough haste to benefit from it without losing SB uptime yet
Once you get higher haste, enough to keep SB up without HR, you go ITF.
can i post my build ?
No.
That "No" was meant that "No, it's wrong". 😂
iam having Zero issues in heroic Pugs tbh
Not "No, you have to delete it".
Sorry for the misunderstanding
You will have 0 issues in heroic pugs without any talents selected.
like its easy tbh
i just walk backwards
If you want to have a optimal build, take the ones i linked.
i am for the best
If not mythic raiding or pushing highest keys, always can just play whatever want
But yes optimal is there
Burst of Power not resetting Shield Slam is kinda meh. No cooldown should be no cooldown.
yeah it's kinda weird that it doesnt
Also having low haste for Thunder Clap right now feels extremely bad when Thunder Blast procs 
Hello! New to prot this expansion. Mountain thane look and feel made me full swap from monk. Do you think prot warrior is as strong as it was in DF season 1?
Do you know if this effect works before or after mitigation? 🤔
It's applied to yourself instead of to your enemy
So I would presume it's post-mit
Which will gain alot of milage, sadly won't be tracked anywhere
I think
And based on that ceaseless swarm might actually be not that good defensively anymore cuz it's probably pre-mit
If its post-mit, it seems to be not that bad for the start, after upgrading to 580
Ya like, it'll do fuckloads for m+ in terms of raw dmg prevention
If it had a details bar it would be large, question is, does it do anything relevant
It'll just reduce dmg taken by a flat amount, which pwar is the best tank for cuz basically 0 dmg intake, but hard to quantify how useful that would be
But 45k is already gigantic
Considering most melee swings are barely larger than that
And currently they're smaller than that
Its from WQ
Ya sure, but you get dungeon items from those, no?
Usually they have some other items
like Drogbar Rocks back in S2 of DF
Yea, just checked all dungeons journal - they dont have this trinket
As i saw i all the worldquest im Done - the Items arent dungeon ones
This would then theme Basic drop in the „no take candle mofu“ dungeon
What’s the proc chance and uptime like?
Ok - wowheadw Said it’s an delves Item !
🤔
What do you guys think is the better spec for M+?
You mean hero talent? Thane
ye
Evoker
Ill look later - if its an Aura or smth
Not even a competition
thats what I thought
Hey all, sorry to be that guy but I’m returning for TWW and haven’t played since BfA. I mostly played tanks and just wondered what the general lay of land is for Prot Warrior compared to the others? I’m currently toying between maining it or Bear
idk what you mean by lay of the land but warrior is very fun, looks good and gets more fun with haste which we’ll have a decent amount of by end of season
Well mainly how does it compare defensive, damage, survivability wise
Thats with trinket equipped (with and without IP)
and thats wihtout trinket
so looks like its pre-mit 
at least from IP, dunno how it works with shield block
Guys, is it worth it upgrading those Veteran pieces from Renown ? 584 ?
Yeah since only heroic raid and mythic raid crests will be important
So as long as you don't use whatever the highest 2 crests are, you should be good to go to send stuff on lower pieces
But idk if upgrading 584 has a point at all since m0 will have daily lockout with season
And drops like 590+
- everything being open anyway
You can farm infinite valorstones, technically, so you could for sure upgrade anything that doesnt cost crests at all if you want to
Depending what kinda content you do, there might still be some kind of world where you want the lower tier crests for crafted pieces/M0 trinkets, or something like that early on
Do professions matter much? I used to keep it “thematic” i.e. warrior would be a blacksmith and miner (i never really min-maxing for gold gain) but I found that blacksmithing got outstripped by things like alchemy in usefullness
IDK if anything besides Alchemy and Engineering have exclusive benefits that affect group content
Engi gets like Brez and tinkers, alch gets double flask timer. I dont think the other professions have similar benefits?
they dont
we argued about this yesterday, everyone gets brez now, I dropped my eng lol
i have never dropped BS for Alchemy
professions do not matter, play what you want
if youre into gold making, try a goblin discord or something
I like having enchanting for just convience personally, but that doesn't fit the "theme" ur after lol
Oh I’m not fussed about themeatics anymore 😂
I’ll probably take alchemy or enchanting then
I was blacksmith, they all have their uses
Im usually the "ring-maker" in my guild, so I always run JC/Ench
It is similar to Highmountain Racial.
im a lil curious if anyone tested how they made the -5% magic dmg while in defensive stance totally worthless probably premitigation like you guys just talking about
cuz im sure its mostly bait talent
it is a bait talent
so for once you're correct, yogi
all im gonna say about Engi is
that my druid is Engi
and it made a boatload more fucking gold rivaling my BS
for once.... lmao..... shut up....
Oh, did they make the engi rez not require engineering anymore? That's handy if so
this is the guy in woods image thdre is now a stereotypical canadian lumber jack in wow playwhatever the hell you want
the tinker slot thing was never engi-only
thats the image i orginally referenced mknths years ago
It used to require 1 point in engineering
no it doesnt, the "prototype" does to learn how to make it
thats different
how did we get back to this
new person asking
it happens in this channel
honestly kinda glad a bracer slot isnt required anymore
gonna miss 2x haste, but its still a crafted slot that could be filled with a myth track
Ah right it didn't require it, engineers just had talents to lower the fail rate to basically never. So it kinda felt required
The shadowlands consumable did require engi tho
hopefully it's back to not failing in competitive content as well
i kept taking all my piles of scrap and turning them into unrecongnizable prorotypes and then making recipes out of them
it does fail
now game told me fuck you, invented too much shit
So did the shadowlands one, but people bitched and they made it not fail in M+
So it never said it on the tooltip
who cares about SL
I still vividly remember jpc whining about why his brez failed so often when the others on his team didnt and they were legit perplexed he didnt know it was cause he had like lvl 20 engineering only in SL lol
hell DF bracers FAILED IN A TGP
i advisw not doing belt nitro boosts as it has somethijg like a 1 in 10 chance to essetnially kill you 5 seconds later
Just pointing out that blizz has a history of not having tooltips expain how an item works fully, with this specific interaction even.
we would know
unless they nerfed the fails of that, not worth under any circumstance
Can’t decide if I wanna make a bdk or prot warrior any thoughts?
make both

shit, that thing was STILL on my clipboard
inb4 it’s another vdh meta 😭
naw
the 2 most deadly failures it cand do is 40%total hp loss on use for about 10 seconds or lauunches you jnto air with apex od you will not survive id you dont leap chrage float or land in water
I plan on leveling all 6 tanks; each 80 gives another 5% XP
and the scaling is so wonk in these dungeons where you just trade off with friends on who's the carry
i think wow was best early early days when you didnt know who was carry who unless you already playing eq rs bunch of other mmos hardcore
some players get big ego about game
i wouldnt say some i would say most of them
"everything was so much better in the good old days"
definitely not everything wzs better in 2004 wow lol
as someone who raided in vanilla wow, it was fucking horrendous
the servers were absolutely shit
and gameplay was basic as F
we just didnt know better
I know the guide doesn’t list the dark moon decks as big hitter items but my buddy said he was seeing them only selling for like 3k. Worth?
how about the shit in 2004 wow when you didnt even KNOW the magic user monster was casting a fireball
2004 wow was a revelation compared to EQ, but yeah it certainly was not better designed than now. It's just nostalgia about how you felt at the time.
yup, we transferred twice after naxx because of this
doing the plus minus boss before the server upgrades was impossible
you lagged out and killed everyone
and evern then you had to guess what thet spell was cuz the was no cast bar with telling you the spell name or what it might do , so you wouldnt know you could reflect it (i know it wasnt in 2004 wow but im saying as example)
and yeah, raiding vanilla/TBC still held onto a lot of previous MMO baggage
💯
fucking raid keying in TBC
ill be honest
the onlty reason im not even worse at wow, and like exactly the brain dead wow player asmogold describes is becuase i had already played a ton of runescape by that point
was already playing wc3, other similiar types of rpg ish games
🤷 i played EQ1 and am still braindead
So are you saying that one is worth for the cheap price or just that this is the best one
ancient runescape i will say
not sure if its worth, thats up to you to decide, but if youre looking for options then thats the best one
the one where you have to sleep in mining bag and type in banana and ladder to wake up with full energy to mining again
3k is considerably nothing
it also bumps up your I level
so you can get marginally better WQ drops
but like, none of the gear matters right now
except for getting through the first couple of heroics then first couple of mythic dungeons
It's strength + secondary stats with reasonably higher ilvl than the rest for now
For like 4k gold you get both
its nice that the game is teaching players how to enchant gear and upgrade gear with quests i will say
They've been a little better about tutorializing certain things via quests since DF
I remember them having a series of quests to walk you through work orders
yup and upgrading gear, every single season lol
the only thing they need to do now is label the main city
and maybe they should just have the paperclip so when you enter a dungeon it goes 'I see you havnt gemed/enchanted this piece of gear. Wants some help?'
i mean, that thing lived rent free in all our heads for 25 years
they did something right with that
Holy negative pixels batman
its got to be negative pixels

HD paperclip wouldn't hit the same
True
Anyone else spend 3 hours between Friday and today looking for something that doesn't exist? Or just me
I remember when Nintendo's Virtual Boy was supposed to be the next wave in gaming tech
oh, the migraines lol
oh here, someone was talking about how i was gunna give my self carpal tunnel through how use kb mouse, sort of carpal tunnel but its never too bad to play a game
my mouse hand healed in a weird way i think since an accident when i was kid
what you mean fam
I remember it would give you a reminder to take a break after awhile. Like yeah bro I know my eyes/head/neck are dying
Work shit
I was moving

Couldve been playing wow... instead I was driving a Uhaul that wouldnt go above 40mph
Sounds like you needed to press the gas pedal harder
Is it still called a gas pedal in the EU? Or is it the petrol pedal
fury or prot for leveling through campaign? 490 ilvl character
fury is what I did, nothing really hurts bad enough to need prot
I just picked up 2nd wind for between packs
leveling with prot has been fine since before legion
nobody said it wasnt
im answering the question
Prot leveling is superior. Pulling half a zone will never not be fun
I think what we're saying is that it doesn't matter 😉
pull half the zone as fury and odyns fury/bladestorm 😄
I leveled as prot, didn't feel slow at any point. But I'm sure fury would've been fine as well
Arms is probably the "worst" just because it doesn't have any self healing ability that I'm aware of
Besides impending ofc
Yeah
2nd wind is one of my fav abilities, i love it
I just meant like it doesn't have bloodthirst or the negative damage intake
Plate wearers generally don't give a shit about what spec they level as though since most things are physical damage anyway
nice to hear
i believe nome recommends leveling as colossus though (story/questing)
cant wait
and then making any swaps at max level
if youre leveling through dungeons though, consider reading that article
I like MT and just aoe pulling but yeah think either would be fine
Might be congested and hard to aoe quest today when the masses release
Its 3pm today i thought
Yeah 26th
Heroic dungeons too
The scaling from 70 to 75 was very whack. I was one shotting mobs with shield slam or close to it
no
tf
Correct
only normal
then early access was almost a scam
Early access was a scam 100%
the most boring 3 weeks we gonna get
I mean you got to see the zones and level. If that was worth it to you to see a few days early then it's not a scam
Yeah not a fan of time gating but i was also desperate for something new LOL. I guess ill end up leveling all my characters
imma do professions
thats some cope
Call it what you want. It wasn't a scam to me and I wasn't even going to play this expansion
I got to level without the zones being clogged to shit and take my time with it because I wasn't rushing to stay caught up with my friends
Worth it to me
90 dollars worth
40USD for 3-4 days extra that had most of the game cockblocked is a scam.
I still bought into it because my wife desperately wanted to quest this weekend...but yeah scammy
"why are games 70 dollars nowadays" buys 90 dollar ultimate edition for early access
How is it a scam when we literally knew that all that stuff would be disabled
can i do dungeon once the game releases? just to get some easy levels early on
they'll keep taking fingers if they consider this a success, don't worry about it 🙂
Like if you didn't agree with that shit being disabled then why did you buy it
at least in this circle
Smh
i didnt
I'm not talking to you
I did and i knowling admit it and the fact its still a scam lol
oh, well
I'm talking to the guy who bought it
high five calc
Knowingly*
lol
i enjoyed it. you are not fighting against 74572095723945793025234 people for quest items
Read above. Desperate wife
Then you're an idiot
undead im back in arthas
It's not a scam. You're just an idiot.
D:
as of 2 weeks ago
Im an idiot because you thought it was worth it?
about time we get some talent back in Arthas cause lord knows I am not it
You're an idiot because you didn't and bought it anyway.
Telling people how to spend their money is weird
I don't think anyone is doing that tbf
Are we taking ilevel if it breaks the old tier?
you keep 2pc
ilevel over*
4pc yes, 2pc no
ahh ok cool
until its disabled
the dungs are pretty cool, although I just did one so far
not a fan of floating down a hole that seems stupid
im tempted to go back
I haven't done any yet. I should probably do that at some point lol
could prob get rid of all my silly characters in my names
ive heard good things so far, ty guys for 90 dollar testing
Dawnbreaker sucked ass
i am level 76 now so I am gonna do the rest after work and see how they are
Wait actually
mountain thing is amazing, just pull the entire thing lol
What are people doing for professions?
especially with spear
same as always BS and mining
yeah thats a follower one for the main quest
Tyty
Oh that was actually part of a quest? I thought I just kinda did it by accident rofl
My brain was off
Only a few profs have dungeon advantage. Think engineering tailoring...bs has repair hammers...alch has daily flasks with some sort of boost or duration
Its the campaign
not bad
The Stonevault and the Mists one are for sure the best ones
yes then once you finish that there are one are two more then you go into the next area
I think restedxp skipped the other two
the mini ones are pretty cool tho, i wonder what the higher tiers will be like lol
aight
Should I buy any darkmoon decks as prot warrior?
should you buy is up to you
but if you decide to, then pick this one #protection message
Thanks Nimchip
anyone know the spell id for the battle shout buff
that gets me the id for the spell, isnt the buff a different ID?
you gotta click the "provides aura" or whatever
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=6673/battle-shout should be 6673
Thanks
You can have 2 decks equipped (not same deck)
And they are cheap right now. 800-3000gold depending on variant
I went ascension and vivacity together
reeeeeeee
more like 30-40$ but yeah
40$ more than standard version but you get 30 days game time also
Guaranteed beta was the main driver for me though.
I spend more time playing beta than I did some AAA games 🙂
Also idc about 40$ so 🤷♂️
you guys did your fair share of beta testing and feedback
still, paying for UAT is fucking wild
or rather, having to pay for it
No one is forcing you to get early access
Literally had nothing to do half the time so far
then theres no need to dance around it with but its -x dollars because of cosmetics
Just running around in circles in Dornogal
you all supported a practice that shouldnt exist, so we are gonna get that every single time without fail now
it is what it is
Not my problem 🤷♂️
wild
you go from feedback testing, which shouldnt be your problem
and by all means isnt
to that
kinda weird isnt it
I pay for it to get access and play what I like to play. Nothing more nothing less.
Is there a reputation worth maxing to min-max gear/power, or is it whatevs?
Some of them give you 584 gear at lvl 7 or 8
You can just look at the tiers to see which
hallowfall and dornogal at 7, assembly at 8
Whos excited
each piece is like 2600 resonant crystals
2-3 weeks until anything happens
I did all quests and was able to afford them
And a few events
I can still be excited for an expansion launch 🔥
i think thats good to let normal players relax and not worry about trying harding raid and 0s/ keys week 1
2 weeks from now
2 weeks until mythic 0 is available
And 3 weeks for m+
yeah, I haven't been playing a ton outside leveling 2 chars and have somewhere aroud 5000
what is the "retired" mean? no longer can be upgraded?
set bonus deactivate or something because if not well 2p for the season XD
I am guessing that's when tier will be disabled too
probs deactivate set bonus too
For sure
Also should be noted that heroic dungeons will have lower rewards until the following week
What ??
Oh?
Also 2 weeks from now the dungeon pool changes from the 8 TWW dungeons to the S1 dungeons
Heroic Dungeon Loot: 554 early access, 567 after next reset with 593 in vault, 580 week after that w/ m0 593
preseason heroics are explorer and then adventure
By 3 ilvls and be on the same rewards track?
You can upgrade the 567 to 580 with valorstones only
13 ilevels
Ah my apologies I can't read
someone in wow chat is saying we are capped at 10 RK
What's rk?
That is not how you spell renown
u got a better way to short form it?
its possible, DF capped renown too
rep
It's 6 letters that are really easy to type. I don't need to shorten it
i dunno why i called it RK, RN is right now typically
This is the one most people would be interested in for ‘how to gear correctly’.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-P988ibclxaKCGrAcrx_v1X-hLdkCVUgy_ZFPzLNn_s/mobilebasic
We love a good Google doc
Shows you what to do and not do each week
call it rep if you can't be assed to type 3 more letters
basically im cranking ilvl to farm t8 bountiful devels rn. and farming deeps rep10 to buy bountiful keys
how do i go about finishing this one to get the big reward
spent about an hour at this location doing dumb crap
@tribal wharf locked atm
I am currently sending a form to a town called Wahoo
can't until maybe later today? or tomorrow
i hope you are hearing mario say it in your head
this game is fucking stupid
LOL okay i was wondering cuz i did like 5-10 assisting and lighting the flame thingies events
Obviously
and like, 5 or so of the daily quests there
I don't like it.
especially for m+? no
Action targeting is cool right up until you introduce casts that need to be kicked and prio mobs
I like the idea of it, but this game is nowhere near being designed with it in mind
Kind of like the action cam
I actually like it. Reminds me of some older action rpgs I loved. But I cannot tank a dungeon from that viewpoint and take it even slightly seriously at the same time
Plus, how can you NOT zoom out to appreciate lightning blasts?
Apologies if this is a silly question but I’m new to warrior tanking… honestly tanking in general. Does shield slam extended the duration of shield block? My WA seems to add a second every time I shield block and I wanted to confirm that’s a thing.
mayne I'm getting a bit tired of prot war ngl
especially since there's like no gameplay changes this expansion
same old thing
I need an alt to play
read Heavy Repercussions
We run the talent heavy repercussions right now which is what is causing it to do that
Left side of the prot tree
Thank you! I wasn’t scanning that talent tree but nothing stood out immediately.

ik, fr!

DK is seeming pretty good
Didn't really like udk in df, but I only briefly tried it
Friend who's mained it since cata said it's fun now
I prob should since if I play with him and outdps him he'll get salty
seconding frost, very fun w/ the talent changes in TWW and has two very solid hero trees
surv is also fun, but you're locked into Sentinel
pretty much
it's very good
Sin is fake spec
u mean ass rogue
Outlaw only real rogue spec
i miss BFA outlaw
i miss combat rogue
I actually didn't like outlaw when I tried it in bfa
i dont miss combat, outlaw is better
I enjoyed it in SL and DF though
combat fucking boring
combat rogue is fucking goated
I didn't care for most of your finishers being rtv
insane dps
Rtb
it pops off so hard if u have the right weapons equipped and such
combat was wild in TBC
even in wrath combat was insane
I mean boring, but it popped off
fucking boring as shit
assassin always won ST but combat was always a lil easier to play
incorrect
playing combat with DST before it got nerfed was insane
combat was the top one through out vanilla
my DK weakaura is so fucking bad..
Why the hell are Luxthos and Afenar WAs so popular
lol
How anyone can miss any rogue gameplay prior to cp being on the player is beyond me
agreed
a trinket so good they had to invent ICD
fucking boring nostalgia fueled callback
Luxthos is shit. Afenar is very easy to customize.
it was alot like prot warrior without having to worry about threat, you just stood OUT of the frontals instead
lol, exactly what I said earlier, played combat all TBC so the nostalgia hits
you just spam SS / mut to high heavens
never got my glaives tho
How is spamming an ability fun
3 button spec, fucking boring
its perfect imo, hit sinister strike 5000 times 1 fight
spec was boring, but strong, and even w/o glaives could carry your raid
I fell like this playing Hunter MM HOLY
thanks yogi, i totally didnt play in vanilla AND in classic
Crokxe is the only ‘proper’ dk WA (although mine is a heavily modified versions for his several expacs old)
that's sarcasm btw
ehhh
theres a fuckin reason i dont play doom 2016 eternal and classic wow any more lmao
i mean, we all know it, everybody knows
lmaooooo
ah shit, im too stupid to get this meme
Just yoinking views from Paul rudd
classic rogue feels so fucking bad
I mean it's made up for the fact that the game is braindead easy
but like
yeah, combo points on the TARGET is fuckin stupid
imagine that in modern wow
it feels fucking bad because its boring
that too
AR usually is enough to kill any big threat
hey, it felt really good when u finally got 5 combo points off on a mob and critical evisercate it
mage idfk probably spammed fireball, maybe a scorch every now and then?
cuz u didnt always get 5 combos off
Couldn't even play fire in MC
You'd just frostbolt
what do frost players do nowadays, 2h or dual wield?
Usually dual I believe
Cool
i think its both really though
I think they DW in dungeons and 2h obli in raids
fdk only went 2h because of fyralath
DW for sure, with the IDT nerf there may be some weird 2H variant that has crept up a little
but DW just feels good
there is some like 3-5% dps difference between 2h and dw but i cant be 100% certain on that fact
i think its obliterate u do 2h?
2h isnt a thing
you play dw oblit
fyralath is dead
thats a good question i wonder when leg axe disables, prolly same time as tier etc
might be today i saw some shit about it ends 26
df stuff this is
I'm guessing all that gets turned off when the expansion officially launches. But time will tell. Lego doesn't need to be turned off though really.
i didnt even have it peroid lol
i have 2 of them
not on warrior paladin dk nothin
since s3, remember
ya, i should have quit at 10.1 and 10.2 and come back for 10.3
divers folly is the drop from 2nd boss EP fish an agi dagger with dot dmg proc, mostly for dh and such i think?
Yo is there a good quick way to get some starter gear for TWW lol
my dk has 366 ilvl oof
yes the event
axe my bad, i swear it was dagger, i just know it was 1h agi dps dh unobtanium
oh yeah event has gear
you got a few hours to farm 480 pieces yeah
and there was 2 asian dh brothers in guild and they would reeee every time it never dropped
inb4 they make it so you can upgrade S4 tier to current ilvl, just to flex on the haters
my pwar is already 80, just need to get my dk some gear to spam tww dungeons
oh wait I can already queue nvm
Was gonna say I didn't think normal dungeons had an ilevel req
you need at least 700 ilvl to join the community in normal dungo, tho
Honestly I need to learn to make my own WA packs and enjoy it. #1 thing that prevents me from playing alts
yeah I'm just stupid
700?!??!?!?!
is anybody using luxthos or afenar WA? do you have a preference between the two?
is that for real
nah he's lowballing, you'll get flamed tf out if you're not 770-800ilvl
lol ok i get it
Use Nomeraturs
will look into it
Here you go https://wago.io/RwQjeeIek
side note, it's hilarious to me every time I see Prot Wars, since the ones that sit in battle take less damage than the ones who sit in d stance
I don't even know how some of these prot wars manage to die so fast
anyone got a fix for the Ignore Pain tracker that tells you how much you have?
You'd be surprised how many pwars see either shield block or ignore pain as optional buttons
Or keep block up, but dump all of their rage into whirlwind for reasons unknown. That seems to be the most common one.
when do we get heroic next week?
one died in two autos
Vs a boss?
First boss of priory
Broken gear maybe
without the add lieus
And not using buttons
defo was not using buttons at least
We often advertise prot warrior as not taking damage, so I guess they just expected to... not take damage?
im gunna petition we put up "remove ww, slam from your bars" on sticky for this channel
That is in the pins, yogi
save the blues yellows all the headache of every 10 minutes
Anyone coming to this channel has already removed themselves from the target audience of such a pin
you'd be surprised, wardrum
you need to tick "fetch tooltip info" or something and add a text field for "%1.tooltip2", that fixes it
I've seen some goobers in here, but rarely anyone in the "literally cannot play" category
no
And we've talked about how slam would make an interesting single target rage dump, but none of us actually use it.
on reset but ilvl capped #protection message
setting up bars on specs I don't know makes me want to cry
As someone who's gotten blasted with work and family events between last week and the upcoming one, I'm (selfishly) happy to not feel miles and miles behind already.
treat most unkowns that come here with dumb questions as thought it was a yogi situation
disagree
Yam, check out the rotation guide on wowhead and see how it compares to specs you already know, and map accordingly
theres no other situation than a yogi situation
Then adjust as you play
its very unique
just like me and you
Explain the yogi lore.
indeed
no
Yogi is simply built different
yogi is yogi
thats yogi lore
otherwise known as deathray44
always were deathray44 if you knew your yogi lore
I remember the older profile pic and actual yogi name, I've connected the dots since then so far lol
since 1998-1999 original cardboard cut out runescape
its like asking my grandpa for a war story
Those are always the best stories, though
if my grandpa was like 1 or 2 years older than me
If you ever want to know about doom, you ask yogi
Also I think yogi is 40
i miss yogi's videos
The last doom game I played was Doom II
Me too
yes really, he goes HARD on doom lore and mechanics
i miss the 20 WCM video
like, he knows like, exactly how bfg9000 works
The two yard heroic leaps are my favorite
do you know how bfg 9000 ray trace ball light beam laser thingies work?\
i sure as hell dotn
I don't know what any of those words mean
loosely translated it 1 shots pretty much anything
oh man they were so good. he needs to come back
I do remember ye olde bfg
tyytytyt
theres some way you can manipulate the bfg 9000 into high rolls by making the beams it fires from the ball where it lands by looking in a certain direction or some shit?
its so much broken that you can 1 shot spider master mind if done correct
I just saw that! I thought it was tomorrow
this is the bfg 10k, which is directly powered by the bfg 9k by placing it in the cannon and firing it, on par with the laser that killed n'zoth for power scale
the big fucking gun
exactly 
put a gigantic hole on mars
N'zoth got killed by a laser?
Yeah, my super laser piss
gigantic beam of heat and electricity? sounds like laser to me
Disclaimer, I only did LFR N'Zoth near Shadowlands pre-patch time because I skipped most of BFA because doo-doo expac
that neck power that was the u channel a big barrel shapped frontal of azerite was really nice too, that did a ton of dmg
im gonna have to ask you for your M+ card
Essence of the focusing iris
why do DKs hate damage
dogshit infested
i had always wanted to do a key of 5x, or at least 3/4 players use the it leaves a floaty stone thingy that granted main stat to party




