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hardy snow
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professions or ah flip

pallid quiver
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easiest way would be to just luck into a mythic raid boe week 1

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anything else is either high initial starting point, high effort, or quite low return

soft tusk
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what am I doing wrong??

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I am farming rares and nothing drops at adventurer level

patent bear
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So if I'm going to overcap rage and both thunderblast and revenge are available -

Do I revenge to avoid overcapping?

pallid quiver
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you press ignore pain

lusty grotto
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IP

pallid quiver
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and should have been pressing IP

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also revenge is always available if you aren't rage starved, as a random nitpick about the scenario

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Heck, on top of that, using revenge might not even spend that rage if you have a proc that makes it free

patent bear
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Yeah, but im not taking a ton of damage, IP kinda waste

pallid quiver
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No

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It's a waste to not be spending that rage

patent bear
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Yeah, so revenge

pallid quiver
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Do you have any idea how much of the kit interacts with spending rage?

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no

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Like I just said

tropic tangle
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wrong lmao

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
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you might not even spend that rage

lusty grotto
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press IP

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IP is off-gcd, revenge is not

tropic tangle
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IP is a better rage dump, and it's off the GCD

pallid quiver
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You will lose damage and survival over time by trying to do it that way, as you're losing GCD economy, you're losing potential rage gen by having TC on CD longer, you're losing out on CD recycle from AM from not having been properly cycling your rage,

patent bear
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I just don't get how at a max cap, or near cap, IP shield is worth burning rage on IP and not revenge

pallid quiver
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The entire point of IP is meant to cycle your rage economy while giving you a side benefit of an absorb shield

patent bear
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Assuming revenge isnt free

pallid quiver
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You shouldn't have fucking capped

patent bear
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Ah ok, so it's always IP

pallid quiver
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You can press IP whenever

tropic tangle
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because it dumps more rage, it's off gcd

pallid quiver
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Revenge is a last resort method to refresh SS to kickstart the rage machine again

mellow quartz
pallid quiver
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And even if IP would overcap, simply spending the rage so you can generate more faster is a good usage of IP

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It interacts with:
Anger Management
GCD efficiency
Violent Outburst
Indomitable

patent bear
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Ok, so it's really about spending rage

pallid quiver
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just at cursory glance

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Yes

patent bear
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Not the shield

mellow quartz
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Probably on wowhead

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No clue

pallid quiver
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Your overall goal is to generate rage and spend rage without wasting any

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You will get absorb shields from IP as you do this, so you don't need to think about it in almost every scenario. In everything doable right now, every scenario you don't really need to think about it

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As long as you're properly cycling your rage, you'll have IP to help slow what trickles past block

south zealot
pallid quiver
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This is also why a lot of guides that have been coming out that recommend TC as your highest prio button have issues is because they're generating shit tons less rage

patent bear
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This is very helpful, thank you

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I've been wasting rage on TB

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Since I've put it higher priority

pallid quiver
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Yeah, there's not much thinking, adapting or anything related to playing Warrior outside of "me get rage, me spend rage"

CDs go on CD, SS > TC > Revenge is your prio in bot AOE and ST

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The only optimization past that is to make sure you send Outbursts on SS over TC,

south zealot
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shield slam will pretty much always be your highest priority button bc it

  1. generates more rage. more rage is more avatars and shield walls through anger management.
  2. more avatars is more thunder blasts and more rage, more rage is more avatars.
  3. more shield walls through impenetrable wall.
  4. faster outbursts because youre generating more rage, more rage is more avatars, more avatars is more thunderblasts.
pallid quiver
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but sending an outburst on TB in ST probably isn't even terrible for you, either, so if you're not used to spending rage, it's probably fine to just ignore it for the moment

patent bear
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Even over TB?

south zealot
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thunderblast should be used on aoe for outburst instead

pallid quiver
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Even over TB in AOE except with outburst ready

patent bear
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I thought Violent outburst was TB

south zealot
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you shouldnt use it on a regular thunder clap though

pallid quiver
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No, Violent Outburst is a talent that's effectively the SL S3 tier set

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When you spend enough rage, you get a buffed version of either SS or TC, whichever you use next, that gives double the rage and triple the damage

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Thunder Blast just procs when activating Avatar or at random when sending Shield Slam

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Since Thunder Blast is an enhanced Thunder Clap, you can send outburst on Thunder Blast

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So the skill expression is the send outbursts on Thunder Blast if possible in AOE, Shield Slam otherwise

mellow quartz
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also TB over SS even outside outburst in aoe if you have 2 stacks

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you never want to sit on capped stacks so your SS cannot proc a new TB

patent bear
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Alright that's pretty straightforward

pallid quiver
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@strong forum has the above been proven better than trying for SS resets via sims yet? I haven't kept too much track

mellow quartz
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read up earlier today

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he mentioned not capping either stacks

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SS or TB

pallid quiver
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i tried doing a quick search with messages from him about stacks but it was mostly dungeon talk smh

pallid quiver
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thanks boss

high folio
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whirlwind still bad on prot right?

humble island
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is there anything we can do about micro-stuttering on thunderclap? there's no way my pc shouldn't be able to handle that

mellow quartz
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turn down graphics settings

warm plinth
tribal wharf
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extremely bad, so much so that i regularly request it gets removed :S

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if i had discord nitro i'd do what he does, i think his name is normal gash

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well duh no shit

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its about as useless as shield block is on arms/fury, you'd only ever use it, to great dissapointment, as a last resort

jagged gust
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but what if sword big like shield

tribal wharf
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thats called re-roll to bdk

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cuz then ur probably also stacking leech /s

high folio
warm plinth
lusty grotto
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lol

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i wonder if thats why he made a new account in the first place

tribal wharf
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yes but then it would appear across all discords

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and this is a general discord account, rather than i join 1 - 3 servers

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nitro, u can make ur name specific to the discord lobby whatever server you are in

warm plinth
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:think:

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
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i could be mistaken but im 99% this is how it works as i described

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when you buy nitro, you can do what i said, before that, all servers

wooden widget
tribal wharf
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v/m puke lol

wooden widget
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loll

unreal lily
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A someone explain scaling to me? From about 70 to 76 I was able to pull full rooms of mobs and feel unstoppable then it got a bit more difficult and by 78 I felt like I was getting hit pretty hard. I really noticed in priory of the sacred flame more than any of the others

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Can*

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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you need more rating to match up to what you have

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more levels, lower the value of an X amount of rating

warm plinth
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At level 70, 170 rating is 1% haste. It takes 660 rating to get 1% at 80.

lusty grotto
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☝️

unreal lily
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Alright thank you guys. It was fun being unstoppable at the lower levels. I'll have to gear up some more. Felt like Diablo play style at first lol

lusty grotto
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well thats effectively why ilvl > all other stats

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as per pins

unreal lily
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I wish they had done a stat squish for the xpac and started us back around 50k or so health. At 4 million health and crazy damage numbers the numbers almost feeling meaningless

mellow quartz
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well you wouldnt have liked Legion then

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1b dps

unreal lily
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Wow that's insane!

mellow quartz
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or was it just millions and they squished it down to under 10k

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I forget

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to long ago

tropic tangle
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can't remember exact numbers, but wasn't SL the last squish?

lusty grotto
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yes

tropic tangle
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wouldn't be surprised if they did it again in midnight, or the one after

lusty grotto
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and WoD before that

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BFA also had one

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6.0.2, 8.0.1 and 9.0.1

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WoD, BFA, SL

amber gull
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For sure they do it again in midnight

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the numbers at the end of thi xpa are gonna be huge

lusty grotto
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they sad as much

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that if it came, it was in Midnight

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a few months ago in an interview

mellow quartz
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BFA was the squish wasnt it?

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not SL

lusty grotto
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both

amber gull
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sl was ilvl and lvl squish

lusty grotto
tropic tangle
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that's right, forgot totally about the level squish

amber gull
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we would be lvl 150 right now without it XD

vocal flame
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we going ilvel over current tier or waiting

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current i mean old tier from dragon land

mellow quartz
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end boss in Legion raiders doign 2m dps, end boss in BFA they doing 90k, end boss in SL they doing 18k

amber gull
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its gonna be over 1 million this first raid right?

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single target

zenith vigil
tropic tangle
vocal flame
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take a higher ilvel piece even if it breaks old tier? thats cool right?

tropic tangle
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think the 2 pc probably holds up until they deactivate it lol

vocal flame
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ah ok ty

tropic tangle
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hopefully they just rip it tomorrow or Tuesday

tribal wharf
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game just straight up said no lmao

soft tusk
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anyone has a guide where the important rares (the ones with adventure gear) are located?

tribal wharf
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probably some weak aura floating around if you ask high end players nicely

orchid mural
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Struggling with the way Thunder Blast procs, the internal CD of thunder clap .... it's like it procs - and it takes extra long to become able to be used. Am I wrong? Something about the interaction is wrong.

Or is it because it "procs" but does not become available right away - which is not typical of abilities that proc.

warm plinth
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Pretty sure it only gets reset when you Avatar?

jagged gust
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Yeah TB transforms TC, it doesn't reset it, you can get a proc and not be able to use it for several seconds

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So if you popped TC then SS and it procced a TB, you still have to wait out the CD of TC to use the TB buff

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Specifically the wording "Your next TC becomes a TB"

tropic tangle
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yup, same deal with the lightning strike giving 2 free SS, if SS is on CD it isn't available until recharge

orchid mural
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isn't that odd though?

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thats not the way things typically work in the game.

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it feels - off.

tropic tangle
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eh, these are just separate procs, you already have SS resets from your standard rotation and TC on avatar + reduced cooldown during avatar

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it also probably feels doubly worse because we just went from 40 something percent haste to ~20 before gear is optimized

warm plinth
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It is kind of unusual, yeah

rigid yew
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Poor people timer, nice. Not long to go. Let me just log in and sit in Valdrakkan.

drifting dagger
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the i refuse to give into blizzards 4 day ransom timer

scenic mural
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So what is it about mountain thane that makes us take spear over dragon roar in m+

pallid quiver
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Dragon Roar capstone adjustment (nerf to words) + it lines up well for the crit damage with Thane's damage options

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The dot doesn't really benefit anything else and is just kind of damage

scenic mural
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Gotcha, thank you

pallid quiver
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wild

i ran into a prot war tank while levelling my shaman who couldn't live a normal dungeon boss

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it's amazing what not pressing shield block does

lusty grotto
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yikes

weak zealot
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So is mountain thane just that much better than colossus? Or is it fairly even?

pallid quiver
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The only thing it's competitive in is damage

lusty grotto
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nome has an article explaining the differences in wowhead

empty sparrow
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Any idea on what the m+ embelishments are going to look like?

lusty grotto
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the crit one looks good, otherwise wait 3 weeks

young tartan
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Question where is the spear used in M+ on bosses?

ionic fern
ionic fern
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You use it like you always use it. 👀

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Doesn't matter if it's on a boss or on trash.

atomic shore
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Guys is Genshii the creator of Spell Reflection Tracker Aura here in discord ?? @fierce juniper

carmine zodiac
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Hi guys ! What Darkmoon Deck would be good for us? Symbiosis seems legit I think

ionic fern
carmine zodiac
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a random stat instead of 1k+ Versa?

sick sentinel
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What do you give up to take disrupting shout?

jagged pier
jagged pier
ionic fern
carmine zodiac
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isn't it our n°1 stat in priority stats? Not at the start of xpac?

ionic fern
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No.

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Ilvl>Haste>Crit>=Vers>Mastery

carmine zodiac
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Okay mate, thx

rose pier
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Hello. So this first week the goal is to lvl up 80, do campain, up renown to 8 on all faction, grab the 594 epic gear from vendors and thats pretty much it aint it ?

ionic fern
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That's a hefty goal.

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My goal is to just reach 80.

fallow beacon
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What's the consensus when it comes to thunder blast procs atm? The icy veins & wowhead guides differ on this entirely as far as I can tell in the rotational section. Icy veins guide has the following highlighted bit:

jagged pier
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the gear is irrelavent from the vendors

fallow beacon
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Where as the wowhead doesn't make any special mention of thunder blast outside of violent outburst procs

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Is it highest prio as per icy veins, or normal thunder clap placement in rotation as per wowhead?

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Figure this might get asked a lot seeing as both guides are pinned 👀

lusty grotto
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its as it says

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just ping Nome and tell him if he needs to clarify

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for the wowhead guide

fallow beacon
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As it says as per the icy veins guide?

lusty grotto
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yes

fallow beacon
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aight

lusty grotto
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heres his commentary

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if you wanna go through it first

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remember you can always search discord

fallow beacon
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Looks like he's mentioned updating it so I'll leave it at that

lusty grotto
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from:nomeratur in:#protection keyword helps

mellow oriole
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Heads up: seems to be a bug atm that shields aren't dropping properly in the loot tables. Confirmed with sham, pala and warr in guild. So if you find one boe keep it
I've reported to blizz via ticket system

fathom magnet
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whats the best dmc trinket for us?

eager phoenix
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does bountiful delves have increased baseline loot compared to a non-bountiful one? what im wondering is, if i dont want to spend the coffeer key, are the 2 happy meal chests bigger

strong forum
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Don't bountiful delves need to be done with a key?

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I've got no clue rn what to do at 80 so your guess is as good as mine

frigid valley
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u can do em without using the key, only diff is that u have another chest spawn if u got key in bags

violet ginkgo
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and I guess that chest which will be opened by the key contained juicy loot?

frigid valley
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adventure loot from what i found, so 571

eager phoenix
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yes, the key opens a more rewarding chest but not worth spending until s1 begins. but i was wondering if there is a baseline difference. since both non-bountiful and bountiful flagged (so far) have always included 2 chests that can be opened w/o key. i was thinking if the 2 non-key chests are juicier if the delve was bountiful compared to if it wasnt. i could test i suppsoe but was hoping to avoid that

woven estuary
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good morning

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is it posible to get champions Spear CD reduced?

ionic fern
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Hello, no.

lapis vale
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Is it possible to make a macro that will prevent a buff from being cast if I already have? For example I want this for shield block to prevent my jitter fingers from double tapping it

woven estuary
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/cast !shield block

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not sure f that will work

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/castsequence reset=X SpellName, null

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it stack so

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Id get HEKIL or Weak Auras

jagged gust
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that would lead to SB downtime, that's not a good idea

inland raft
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Only reason you would ever worry about double tapping shield block is at very end of a pull

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It stacks and having even small downtime can lead to death

jagged gust
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Even then it's not awful, we don't have to worry about SB much when HR is talented

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The worst that'll happen is you'll rage starve yourself for 2-3 seconds

woven estuary
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HR?

jagged gust
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Heavy Repercussion

inland raft
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Not to mention damage loss to our most important ability in shield slam

woven estuary
ionic fern
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HR = more SB up-time.

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If you have lower haste you take HR.

jagged gust
ionic fern
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Once you get higher haste, enough to keep SB up without HR, you go ITF.

woven estuary
ionic fern
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Yes.

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No.

jagged gust
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No.

ionic fern
woven estuary
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iam having Zero issues in heroic Pugs tbh

ionic fern
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Not "No, you have to delete it".

jagged gust
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Sorry for the misunderstanding

ionic fern
woven estuary
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like its easy tbh

ionic fern
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Yes

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HC is a joke.

woven estuary
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i just walk backwards

ionic fern
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If you want to have a optimal build, take the ones i linked.

woven estuary
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pac to pac

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then to boss

ionic fern
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If you don't want to have a optimal build, do w/e you want.

woven estuary
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i am for the best

inland raft
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If not mythic raiding or pushing highest keys, always can just play whatever want

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But yes optimal is there

remote tusk
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Burst of Power not resetting Shield Slam is kinda meh. No cooldown should be no cooldown.

rain light
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yeah it's kinda weird that it doesnt

remote tusk
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Also having low haste for Thunder Clap right now feels extremely bad when Thunder Blast procs sadgers

glossy jungle
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Hello! New to prot this expansion. Mountain thane look and feel made me full swap from monk. Do you think prot warrior is as strong as it was in DF season 1?

hardy snow
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Do you know if this effect works before or after mitigation? 🤔

strong forum
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It's applied to yourself instead of to your enemy

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So I would presume it's post-mit

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Which will gain alot of milage, sadly won't be tracked anywhere

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I think

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And based on that ceaseless swarm might actually be not that good defensively anymore cuz it's probably pre-mit

hardy snow
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If its post-mit, it seems to be not that bad for the start, after upgrading to 580

strong forum
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Ya like, it'll do fuckloads for m+ in terms of raw dmg prevention

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If it had a details bar it would be large, question is, does it do anything relevant

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It'll just reduce dmg taken by a flat amount, which pwar is the best tank for cuz basically 0 dmg intake, but hard to quantify how useful that would be

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But 45k is already gigantic

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Considering most melee swings are barely larger than that

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And currently they're smaller than that

hardy snow
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on max upgrade (580) its 47,4k

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not big of a increase, but still something

strong forum
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I mean that's a 5% increase

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This trinket will be available from HC dungeons right?

hardy snow
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Its from WQ

strong forum
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Ya sure, but you get dungeon items from those, no?

hardy snow
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Usually they have some other items

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like Drogbar Rocks back in S2 of DF

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Yea, just checked all dungeons journal - they dont have this trinket

long stone
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This would then theme Basic drop in the „no take candle mofu“ dungeon

mellow quartz
long stone
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Ok - wowheadw Said it’s an delves Item !

mellow quartz
strong forum
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How

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Did he test, just equip/unequip melee

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?

onyx pike
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What do you guys think is the better spec for M+?

strong forum
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You mean hero talent? Thane

onyx pike
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ye

mellow quartz
long stone
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Ill look later - if its an Aura or smth

strong forum
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Not even a competition

onyx pike
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thats what I thought

wild hamlet
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Hey all, sorry to be that guy but I’m returning for TWW and haven’t played since BfA. I mostly played tanks and just wondered what the general lay of land is for Prot Warrior compared to the others? I’m currently toying between maining it or Bear

stoic pilot
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idk what you mean by lay of the land but warrior is very fun, looks good and gets more fun with haste which we’ll have a decent amount of by end of season

wild hamlet
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Well mainly how does it compare defensive, damage, survivability wise

hardy snow
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Thats with trinket equipped (with and without IP)

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and thats wihtout trinket

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so looks like its pre-mit sadge

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at least from IP, dunno how it works with shield block

jade tartan
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Guys, is it worth it upgrading those Veteran pieces from Renown ? 584 ?

strong forum
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Yeah since only heroic raid and mythic raid crests will be important

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So as long as you don't use whatever the highest 2 crests are, you should be good to go to send stuff on lower pieces

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But idk if upgrading 584 has a point at all since m0 will have daily lockout with season

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And drops like 590+

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  • everything being open anyway
cold wasp
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You can farm infinite valorstones, technically, so you could for sure upgrade anything that doesnt cost crests at all if you want to

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Depending what kinda content you do, there might still be some kind of world where you want the lower tier crests for crafted pieces/M0 trinkets, or something like that early on

wild hamlet
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Do professions matter much? I used to keep it “thematic” i.e. warrior would be a blacksmith and miner (i never really min-maxing for gold gain) but I found that blacksmithing got outstripped by things like alchemy in usefullness

cold wasp
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IDK if anything besides Alchemy and Engineering have exclusive benefits that affect group content

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Engi gets like Brez and tinkers, alch gets double flask timer. I dont think the other professions have similar benefits?

keen leaf
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we argued about this yesterday, everyone gets brez now, I dropped my eng lol

lusty grotto
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i have never dropped BS for Alchemy

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professions do not matter, play what you want

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if youre into gold making, try a goblin discord or something

keen leaf
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I like having enchanting for just convience personally, but that doesn't fit the "theme" ur after lol

wild hamlet
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Oh I’m not fussed about themeatics anymore 😂

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I’ll probably take alchemy or enchanting then

keen leaf
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I was blacksmith, they all have their uses

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Im usually the "ring-maker" in my guild, so I always run JC/Ench

lusty grotto
remote tusk
tribal wharf
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im a lil curious if anyone tested how they made the -5% magic dmg while in defensive stance totally worthless probably premitigation like you guys just talking about

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cuz im sure its mostly bait talent

lusty grotto
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it is a bait talent

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so for once you're correct, yogi

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all im gonna say about Engi is

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that my druid is Engi

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and it made a boatload more fucking gold rivaling my BS

tribal wharf
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for once.... lmao..... shut up....

lusty grotto
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on DF

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just making profession tools

tribal wharf
cold wasp
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Oh, did they make the engi rez not require engineering anymore? That's handy if so

lusty grotto
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no, its a consumable

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and just like DF bracers, they dont require engi

cold wasp
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Oh they removed the tinker slot thing and just made it a consumable again

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I see

keen leaf
tribal wharf
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this is the guy in woods image thdre is now a stereotypical canadian lumber jack in wow playwhatever the hell you want

lusty grotto
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the tinker slot thing was never engi-only

tribal wharf
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thats the image i orginally referenced mknths years ago

cold wasp
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It used to require 1 point in engineering

keen leaf
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no it doesnt, the "prototype" does to learn how to make it

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thats different

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how did we get back to this

lusty grotto
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new person asking

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it happens in this channel

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honestly kinda glad a bracer slot isnt required anymore

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gonna miss 2x haste, but its still a crafted slot that could be filled with a myth track

cold wasp
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Ah right it didn't require it, engineers just had talents to lower the fail rate to basically never. So it kinda felt required

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The shadowlands consumable did require engi tho

lusty grotto
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the BFA consumable didnt it was engi only

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so its back to that

cold wasp
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hopefully it's back to not failing in competitive content as well

tribal wharf
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i kept taking all my piles of scrap and turning them into unrecongnizable prorotypes and then making recipes out of them

lusty grotto
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it does fail

tribal wharf
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now game told me fuck you, invented too much shit

lusty grotto
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it says so in the tooltip

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but you probably dont get poly'd or whatever

cold wasp
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So did the shadowlands one, but people bitched and they made it not fail in M+

lusty grotto
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so?

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DF bracers failed

cold wasp
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So it never said it on the tooltip

lusty grotto
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who cares about SL

mellow quartz
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I still vividly remember jpc whining about why his brez failed so often when the others on his team didnt and they were legit perplexed he didnt know it was cause he had like lvl 20 engineering only in SL lol

lusty grotto
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hell DF bracers FAILED IN A TGP

tribal wharf
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i advisw not doing belt nitro boosts as it has somethijg like a 1 in 10 chance to essetnially kill you 5 seconds later

cold wasp
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Just pointing out that blizz has a history of not having tooltips expain how an item works fully, with this specific interaction even.

lusty grotto
#

we would know

tribal wharf
#

unless they nerfed the fails of that, not worth under any circumstance

sick sentinel
#

Can’t decide if I wanna make a bdk or prot warrior any thoughts?

lusty grotto
lusty grotto
#

shit, that thing was STILL on my clipboard

plush tendon
#

nothing else to do for the next 2 weeks

#

just level everything

sick sentinel
#

inb4 it’s another vdh meta 😭

plush tendon
#

naw

tribal wharf
#

the 2 most deadly failures it cand do is 40%total hp loss on use for about 10 seconds or lauunches you jnto air with apex od you will not survive id you dont leap chrage float or land in water

plush tendon
#

I plan on leveling all 6 tanks; each 80 gives another 5% XP

#

and the scaling is so wonk in these dungeons where you just trade off with friends on who's the carry

tribal wharf
#

i think wow was best early early days when you didnt know who was carry who unless you already playing eq rs bunch of other mmos hardcore

#

some players get big ego about game

lusty grotto
#

i wouldnt say some i would say most of them

mellow quartz
#

"everything was so much better in the good old days"

tribal wharf
#

definitely not everything wzs better in 2004 wow lol

mellow quartz
#

as someone who raided in vanilla wow, it was fucking horrendous

#

the servers were absolutely shit

#

and gameplay was basic as F

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we just didnt know better

solid sun
#

I know the guide doesn’t list the dark moon decks as big hitter items but my buddy said he was seeing them only selling for like 3k. Worth?

tribal wharf
#

how about the shit in 2004 wow when you didnt even KNOW the magic user monster was casting a fireball

tropic tangle
#

2004 wow was a revelation compared to EQ, but yeah it certainly was not better designed than now. It's just nostalgia about how you felt at the time.

tribal wharf
#

unless you looked at his hands

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and the sound

lusty grotto
mellow quartz
#

doing the plus minus boss before the server upgrades was impossible

#

you lagged out and killed everyone

tribal wharf
#

and evern then you had to guess what thet spell was cuz the was no cast bar with telling you the spell name or what it might do , so you wouldnt know you could reflect it (i know it wasnt in 2004 wow but im saying as example)

tropic tangle
#

and yeah, raiding vanilla/TBC still held onto a lot of previous MMO baggage

tropic tangle
#

fucking raid keying in TBC

tribal wharf
#

ill be honest

tribal wharf
#

the onlty reason im not even worse at wow, and like exactly the brain dead wow player asmogold describes is becuase i had already played a ton of runescape by that point

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was already playing wc3, other similiar types of rpg ish games

lusty grotto
#

🤷 i played EQ1 and am still braindead

solid sun
tribal wharf
#

ancient runescape i will say

lusty grotto
#

not sure if its worth, thats up to you to decide, but if youre looking for options then thats the best one

tribal wharf
#

the one where you have to sleep in mining bag and type in banana and ladder to wake up with full energy to mining again

lusty grotto
#

3k is considerably nothing

plush tendon
#

it also bumps up your I level

#

so you can get marginally better WQ drops

#

but like, none of the gear matters right now

#

except for getting through the first couple of heroics then first couple of mythic dungeons

austere oar
#

It's strength + secondary stats with reasonably higher ilvl than the rest for now

#

For like 4k gold you get both

plush tendon
#

yea, its dirt cheap

#

no reason not to get em if you can/want

tribal wharf
#

its nice that the game is teaching players how to enchant gear and upgrade gear with quests i will say

fallow nova
#

They've been a little better about tutorializing certain things via quests since DF

#

I remember them having a series of quests to walk you through work orders

lusty grotto
#

yup and upgrading gear, every single season lol

plush tendon
#

the only thing they need to do now is label the main city

#

and maybe they should just have the paperclip so when you enter a dungeon it goes 'I see you havnt gemed/enchanted this piece of gear. Wants some help?'

tribal wharf
#

i mean, that thing lived rent free in all our heads for 25 years

#

they did something right with that

warm plinth
plush tendon
#

HD paperclip wouldn't hit the same

warm plinth
#

True

#

Anyone else spend 3 hours between Friday and today looking for something that doesn't exist? Or just me

tribal wharf
fallow nova
#

I remember when Nintendo's Virtual Boy was supposed to be the next wave in gaming tech

#

oh, the migraines lol

tribal wharf
#

oh here, someone was talking about how i was gunna give my self carpal tunnel through how use kb mouse, sort of carpal tunnel but its never too bad to play a game

#

my mouse hand healed in a weird way i think since an accident when i was kid

glad brook
warm plinth
plush tendon
#

I was moving

#

Couldve been playing wow... instead I was driving a Uhaul that wouldnt go above 40mph

warm plinth
#

Sounds like you needed to press the gas pedal harder

#

Is it still called a gas pedal in the EU? Or is it the petrol pedal

tiny mason
#

fury or prot for leveling through campaign? 490 ilvl character

keen leaf
#

fury is what I did, nothing really hurts bad enough to need prot

#

I just picked up 2nd wind for between packs

lusty grotto
#

leveling with prot has been fine since before legion

keen leaf
#

nobody said it wasnt

lusty grotto
#

im answering the question

fallow nova
#

Prot leveling is superior. Pulling half a zone will never not be fun

warm plinth
#

I think what we're saying is that it doesn't matter 😉

keen leaf
#

pull half the zone as fury and odyns fury/bladestorm 😄

warm plinth
#

I leveled as prot, didn't feel slow at any point. But I'm sure fury would've been fine as well

#

Arms is probably the "worst" just because it doesn't have any self healing ability that I'm aware of

#

Besides impending ofc

keen leaf
#

everyone has 2nd wind i think

#

isnt that warrior side

warm plinth
#

Yeah

keen leaf
#

2nd wind is one of my fav abilities, i love it

warm plinth
#

I just meant like it doesn't have bloodthirst or the negative damage intake

#

Plate wearers generally don't give a shit about what spec they level as though since most things are physical damage anyway

tiny mason
#

is there a leveling build guide apart of wowhead one?

#

also mountain or colosus?

lusty grotto
ornate thicket
#

Prot was ez leveling

#

Mountain thane prot blasts

loud patrol
#

nice to hear

lusty grotto
#

i believe nome recommends leveling as colossus though (story/questing)

loud patrol
#

cant wait

lusty grotto
#

and then making any swaps at max level

#

if youre leveling through dungeons though, consider reading that article

ornate thicket
#

I like MT and just aoe pulling but yeah think either would be fine

#

Might be congested and hard to aoe quest today when the masses release

lusty grotto
#

tomorrow*

#

it releases on reset, NA's reset is tomorrow

ornate thicket
#

Its 3pm today i thought

lusty grotto
#

is it?

#

oh you right

ornate thicket
#

Yeah 26th

lusty grotto
#

lmaooo

#

well i better buy the expansion then

ornate thicket
#

Heroic dungeons too

loud patrol
#

there werent hc dungeons in EA?

ornate thicket
#

The scaling from 70 to 75 was very whack. I was one shotting mobs with shield slam or close to it

lusty grotto
#

no

loud patrol
#

tf

ornate thicket
lusty grotto
#

only normal

loud patrol
#

then early access was almost a scam

ornate thicket
#

Early access was a scam 100%

lusty grotto
#

also heroic is ilvl capped

#

so

#

every week they raise that ilvl cap

loud patrol
#

the most boring 3 weeks we gonna get

warm plinth
#

I mean you got to see the zones and level. If that was worth it to you to see a few days early then it's not a scam

ornate thicket
#

Yeah not a fan of time gating but i was also desperate for something new LOL. I guess ill end up leveling all my characters

loud patrol
#

imma do professions

warm plinth
#

Call it what you want. It wasn't a scam to me and I wasn't even going to play this expansion

lusty grotto
#

a cope

#

is still a cope

warm plinth
#

I got to level without the zones being clogged to shit and take my time with it because I wasn't rushing to stay caught up with my friends

#

Worth it to me

lusty grotto
#

90 dollars worth

ornate thicket
#

40USD for 3-4 days extra that had most of the game cockblocked is a scam.

#

I still bought into it because my wife desperately wanted to quest this weekend...but yeah scammy

lusty grotto
#

"why are games 70 dollars nowadays" buys 90 dollar ultimate edition for early access

warm plinth
#

How is it a scam when we literally knew that all that stuff would be disabled

tiny mason
#

can i do dungeon once the game releases? just to get some easy levels early on

safe quartz
#

they'll keep taking fingers if they consider this a success, don't worry about it 🙂

lusty grotto
#

oh yeah

#

it'll get worse

#

judging by the amount of people that got it

warm plinth
#

Like if you didn't agree with that shit being disabled then why did you buy it

lusty grotto
#

at least in this circle

warm plinth
#

Smh

lusty grotto
#

i didnt

loud patrol
#

me neither

#

had to work anyway

warm plinth
#

I'm not talking to you

ornate thicket
#

I did and i knowling admit it and the fact its still a scam lol

lusty grotto
#

oh, well

warm plinth
#

I'm talking to the guy who bought it

lusty grotto
#

high five calc

ornate thicket
#

Knowingly*

loud patrol
#

lol

vocal flame
ornate thicket
#

Read above. Desperate wife

warm plinth
#

Then you're an idiot

lusty grotto
#

undead im back in arthas

warm plinth
#

It's not a scam. You're just an idiot.

loud patrol
#

D:

lusty grotto
#

as of 2 weeks ago

vocal flame
#

No way NIM!!!!!

#

Thank god

ornate thicket
#

Im an idiot because you thought it was worth it?

vocal flame
#

about time we get some talent back in Arthas cause lord knows I am not it

warm plinth
#

You're an idiot because you didn't and bought it anyway.

dawn coral
#

Telling people how to spend their money is weird

warm plinth
#

I don't think anyone is doing that tbf

vocal flame
#

Are we taking ilevel if it breaks the old tier?

lusty grotto
#

you keep 2pc

vocal flame
#

ilevel over*

warm plinth
vocal flame
#

ahh ok cool

lusty grotto
#

until its disabled

vocal flame
#

the dungs are pretty cool, although I just did one so far

#

not a fan of floating down a hole that seems stupid

plush tendon
warm plinth
#

I haven't done any yet. I should probably do that at some point lol

plush tendon
#

could prob get rid of all my silly characters in my names

lusty grotto
#

ive heard good things so far, ty guys for 90 dollar testing

ornate thicket
#

Dawnbreaker sucked ass

vocal flame
#

i am level 76 now so I am gonna do the rest after work and see how they are

warm plinth
#

Wait actually

vocal flame
#

mountain thing is amazing, just pull the entire thing lol

warm plinth
#

I did technically do the rookery

#

But it was as a follower dungeon

dawn coral
#

What are people doing for professions?

vocal flame
#

especially with spear

loud patrol
vocal flame
#

yeah thats a follower one for the main quest

dawn coral
#

Tyty

warm plinth
#

Oh that was actually part of a quest? I thought I just kinda did it by accident rofl

#

My brain was off

ornate thicket
#

Only a few profs have dungeon advantage. Think engineering tailoring...bs has repair hammers...alch has daily flasks with some sort of boost or duration

warm plinth
#

Don't the new dungeons have prof bonuses in them?

#

Well, prof/class/race

plush tendon
#

yea

loud patrol
#

well im a warrior and a blacksmith

#

can i get 20 mins?

plush tendon
#

naw, only 10 min

#

but its a 10% vers buff

loud patrol
#

not bad

plush tendon
#

The Stonevault and the Mists one are for sure the best ones

vocal flame
warm plinth
#

I think restedxp skipped the other two

vocal flame
#

the mini ones are pretty cool tho, i wonder what the higher tiers will be like lol

lusty grotto
#

aight

south sparrow
#

Should I buy any darkmoon decks as prot warrior?

lusty grotto
#

finally hit buy

#

ill be on later tonight

lusty grotto
south sparrow
#

Thanks Nimchip

keen leaf
#

anyone know the spell id for the battle shout buff

lusty grotto
#

if you search wowhead

#

youll get it

#

its part of the URL

keen leaf
#

that gets me the id for the spell, isnt the buff a different ID?

lusty grotto
#

you gotta click the "provides aura" or whatever

keen leaf
#

on wowhead?

#

nvm its the same ID, ur right

lusty grotto
keen leaf
#

Thanks

ornate thicket
#

And they are cheap right now. 800-3000gold depending on variant

#

I went ascension and vivacity together

torn gulch
mellow quartz
#

40$ more than standard version but you get 30 days game time also

#

Guaranteed beta was the main driver for me though.

lusty grotto
#

dont get me started

#

you know what ive said before

mellow quartz
#

I spend more time playing beta than I did some AAA games 🙂

lusty grotto
#

yeah i dont particularly blame you

#

or apb

mellow quartz
#

Also idc about 40$ so 🤷‍♂️

lusty grotto
#

you guys did your fair share of beta testing and feedback

#

still, paying for UAT is fucking wild

#

or rather, having to pay for it

mellow quartz
#

No one is forcing you to get early access

#

Literally had nothing to do half the time so far

lusty grotto
#

then theres no need to dance around it with but its -x dollars because of cosmetics

mellow quartz
#

Just running around in circles in Dornogal

lusty grotto
#

you all supported a practice that shouldnt exist, so we are gonna get that every single time without fail now

#

it is what it is

mellow quartz
#

Not my problem 🤷‍♂️

lusty grotto
#

wild

#

you go from feedback testing, which shouldnt be your problem

#

and by all means isnt

#

to that

#

kinda weird isnt it

mellow quartz
#

I pay for it to get access and play what I like to play. Nothing more nothing less.

lusty grotto
#

then thats all there is to it

#

nothing more needs to be said

fossil willow
#

Is there a reputation worth maxing to min-max gear/power, or is it whatevs?

mellow quartz
#

Some of them give you 584 gear at lvl 7 or 8

#

You can just look at the tiers to see which

tropic tangle
#

hallowfall and dornogal at 7, assembly at 8

icy flax
#

Whos excited

tropic tangle
#

each piece is like 2600 resonant crystals

mellow quartz
fossil willow
#

And a few events

icy flax
tribal wharf
#

i think thats good to let normal players relax and not worry about trying harding raid and 0s/ keys week 1

icy flax
#

Also mythic 0s next week with a daily CD is collol

#

Cool

mellow quartz
icy flax
#

?

#

Oops

crisp nexus
#

2 weeks until mythic 0 is available

mellow quartz
#

And 3 weeks for m+

tropic tangle
warm plinth
violet ginkgo
#

what is the "retired" mean? no longer can be upgraded?

warm plinth
#

Probably.

#

They'll be grayed out like they normally are going into the next season

violet ginkgo
#

set bonus deactivate or something because if not well 2p for the season XD

warm plinth
#

I am guessing that's when tier will be disabled too

tropic tangle
#

probs deactivate set bonus too

icy flax
#

For sure

warm plinth
#

Also should be noted that heroic dungeons will have lower rewards until the following week

icy flax
#

Oh?

distant jackal
mellow quartz
#

Also 2 weeks from now the dungeon pool changes from the 8 TWW dungeons to the S1 dungeons

lusty grotto
#

Heroic Dungeon Loot: 554 early access, 567 after next reset with 593 in vault, 580 week after that w/ m0 593

tribal wharf
#

that might mean 2pc set bonus RIP bozo

#

way i read "retire s4"

distant jackal
#

preseason heroics are explorer and then adventure

icy flax
#

By 3 ilvls and be on the same rewards track?

mellow quartz
#

You can upgrade the 567 to 580 with valorstones only

warm plinth
#

13 ilevels

icy flax
#

Ah my apologies I can't read

tribal wharf
#

someone in wow chat is saying we are capped at 10 RK

icy flax
#

What's rk?

tribal wharf
#

unsure if thats the cases as of now, but i think so,

#

Re-Known

warm plinth
#

That is not how you spell renown

tribal wharf
#

u got a better way to short form it?

lusty grotto
#

its possible, DF capped renown too

distant jackal
#

rep

warm plinth
#

It's 6 letters that are really easy to type. I don't need to shorten it

tribal wharf
#

i dunno why i called it RK, RN is right now typically

mellow quartz
warm plinth
#

We love a good Google doc

mellow quartz
#

Shows you what to do and not do each week

tropic tangle
#

call it rep if you can't be assed to type 3 more letters

tribal wharf
distant jackal
#

basically im cranking ilvl to farm t8 bountiful devels rn. and farming deeps rep10 to buy bountiful keys

tribal wharf
#

how do i go about finishing this one to get the big reward

#

spent about an hour at this location doing dumb crap

distant jackal
#

@tribal wharf locked atm

warm plinth
#

I am currently sending a form to a town called Wahoo

tropic tangle
#

can't until maybe later today? or tomorrow

mellow quartz
#

Wait for today or reset before it’s active

#

We don’t know

lusty grotto
tribal wharf
#

LOL okay i was wondering cuz i did like 5-10 assisting and lighting the flame thingies events

warm plinth
tribal wharf
#

and like, 5 or so of the daily quests there

tardy sequoia
#

what do you think of action targeting? yay or nay?

#

especially for m+

warm plinth
#

I don't like it.

lusty grotto
#

especially for m+? no

fallow nova
#

Action targeting is cool right up until you introduce casts that need to be kicked and prio mobs

#

I like the idea of it, but this game is nowhere near being designed with it in mind

lusty grotto
#

yeah, its good if you wanna use it for open world

#

but please dont use it in m+

fallow nova
#

Kind of like the action cam

#

I actually like it. Reminds me of some older action rpgs I loved. But I cannot tank a dungeon from that viewpoint and take it even slightly seriously at the same time

#

Plus, how can you NOT zoom out to appreciate lightning blasts?

quick anchor
#

Apologies if this is a silly question but I’m new to warrior tanking… honestly tanking in general. Does shield slam extended the duration of shield block? My WA seems to add a second every time I shield block and I wanted to confirm that’s a thing.

round pendant
#

mayne I'm getting a bit tired of prot war ngl

#

especially since there's like no gameplay changes this expansion

#

same old thing

#

I need an alt to play

warm plinth
#

Left side of the prot tree

lusty grotto
#

can just type it in the search

#

and it'll put a magnifying glass icon on it

quick anchor
#

Thank you! I wasn’t scanning that talent tree but nothing stood out immediately.

warm plinth
#

You're a magnifying glass icon

#

Gottem

lusty grotto
round pendant
#

Someone give me a good alt class/spec to play

lusty grotto
potent anvil
round pendant
#

DK is seeming pretty good

#

Didn't really like udk in df, but I only briefly tried it

#

Friend who's mained it since cata said it's fun now

lusty grotto
#

why

#

just play frost

round pendant
#

I prob should since if I play with him and outdps him he'll get salty

tropic tangle
#

seconding frost, very fun w/ the talent changes in TWW and has two very solid hero trees

round pendant
#

ok frost it is

#

thanks guys

tropic tangle
#

surv is also fun, but you're locked into Sentinel

warm plinth
#

I thought frost was the best dps spec rn lol

#

Meleewise

lusty grotto
#

pretty much

tropic tangle
#

it's very good

lusty grotto
#

sin rogue is also good

#

enh shammy and surv also

warm plinth
#

Sin is fake spec

tribal wharf
#

u mean ass rogue

warm plinth
#

Outlaw only real rogue spec

lusty grotto
#

i miss BFA outlaw

tribal wharf
#

i miss combat rogue

warm plinth
#

I actually didn't like outlaw when I tried it in bfa

lusty grotto
#

i dont miss combat, outlaw is better

warm plinth
#

I enjoyed it in SL and DF though

lusty grotto
#

combat fucking boring

tribal wharf
#

combat rogue is fucking goated

warm plinth
#

I didn't care for most of your finishers being rtv

tribal wharf
#

insane dps

warm plinth
#

Rtb

tribal wharf
#

it pops off so hard if u have the right weapons equipped and such

tropic tangle
#

combat was wild in TBC

tribal wharf
#

even in wrath combat was insane

tropic tangle
#

I mean boring, but it popped off

lusty grotto
#

fucking boring as shit

tribal wharf
#

assassin always won ST but combat was always a lil easier to play

lusty grotto
#

incorrect

tropic tangle
#

playing combat with DST before it got nerfed was insane

lusty grotto
#

combat was the top one through out vanilla

round pendant
#

my DK weakaura is so fucking bad..

#

Why the hell are Luxthos and Afenar WAs so popular

#

lol

warm plinth
#

How anyone can miss any rogue gameplay prior to cp being on the player is beyond me

lusty grotto
#

agreed

tropic tangle
#

a trinket so good they had to invent ICD

lusty grotto
#

fucking boring nostalgia fueled callback

warm plinth
#

Luxthos is shit. Afenar is very easy to customize.

tribal wharf
#

it was alot like prot warrior without having to worry about threat, you just stood OUT of the frontals instead

tropic tangle
#

lol, exactly what I said earlier, played combat all TBC so the nostalgia hits

tribal wharf
#

you just spam SS / mut to high heavens

tropic tangle
#

never got my glaives tho

warm plinth
#

How is spamming an ability fun

lusty grotto
#

3 button spec, fucking boring

tribal wharf
#

its perfect imo, hit sinister strike 5000 times 1 fight

tropic tangle
#

spec was boring, but strong, and even w/o glaives could carry your raid

swift urchin
lusty grotto
#

thanks yogi, i totally didnt play in vanilla AND in classic

mellow quartz
#

Crokxe is the only ‘proper’ dk WA (although mine is a heavily modified versions for his several expacs old)

lusty grotto
#

that's sarcasm btw

tropic tangle
#

I mean, going back to TBC, hunter literally 1 button

#

steady shot macro

lusty grotto
#

its been a while

#

since youve posted that

warm plinth
#

It was time

#

That video has like a ridiculous number of views now

tribal wharf
#

ehhh

#

theres a fuckin reason i dont play doom 2016 eternal and classic wow any more lmao

#

i mean, we all know it, everybody knows

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

lmaooooo

tribal wharf
#

ah shit, im too stupid to get this meme

warm plinth
#

Just yoinking views from Paul rudd

round pendant
#

classic rogue feels so fucking bad

tribal wharf
#

not really, u just have to play bit like npc

#

get in range, attack til it dies

round pendant
#

I mean it's made up for the fact that the game is braindead easy

#

but like

#

yeah, combo points on the TARGET is fuckin stupid

#

imagine that in modern wow

lusty grotto
#

it feels fucking bad because its boring

round pendant
#

that too

tribal wharf
#

AR usually is enough to kill any big threat

tropic tangle
#

it was a product of the times

#

warlocks hit their curse and spammed shadowbolt

tribal wharf
#

hey, it felt really good when u finally got 5 combo points off on a mob and critical evisercate it

tropic tangle
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mage idfk probably spammed fireball, maybe a scorch every now and then?

tribal wharf
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cuz u didnt always get 5 combos off

austere oar
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You'd just frostbolt

tropic tangle
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oh yeah, I was more talking TBC, but there was that too lol

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resistances

round pendant
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what do frost players do nowadays, 2h or dual wield?

warm plinth
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Usually dual I believe

round pendant
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Cool

tribal wharf
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i think its both really though

austere oar
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I think they DW in dungeons and 2h obli in raids

lusty grotto
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fdk only went 2h because of fyralath

tropic tangle
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DW for sure, with the IDT nerf there may be some weird 2H variant that has crept up a little

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but DW just feels good

tribal wharf
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there is some like 3-5% dps difference between 2h and dw but i cant be 100% certain on that fact

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i think its obliterate u do 2h?

lusty grotto
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2h isnt a thing

tropic tangle
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you play dw oblit

lusty grotto
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fyralath is dead

tribal wharf
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thats a good question i wonder when leg axe disables, prolly same time as tier etc

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might be today i saw some shit about it ends 26

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df stuff this is

lusty grotto
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theres 0 reason to use it vs a higher ilvl

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the dot doesnt do as much damage

warm plinth
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I'm guessing all that gets turned off when the expansion officially launches. But time will tell. Lego doesn't need to be turned off though really.

tribal wharf
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i didnt even have it peroid lol

lusty grotto
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i have 2 of them

tribal wharf
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not on warrior paladin dk nothin

lusty grotto
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since s3, remember

tribal wharf
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ya, i should have quit at 10.1 and 10.2 and come back for 10.3

warm plinth
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Imagine if diver's folly never got disabled

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Probably still be using that shit

tribal wharf
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divers folly is the drop from 2nd boss EP fish an agi dagger with dot dmg proc, mostly for dh and such i think?

round pendant
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Yo is there a good quick way to get some starter gear for TWW lol

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my dk has 366 ilvl oof

lusty grotto
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yes the event

tribal wharf
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axe my bad, i swear it was dagger, i just know it was 1h agi dps dh unobtanium

round pendant
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oh yeah event has gear

tropic tangle
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you got a few hours to farm 480 pieces yeah

tribal wharf
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and there was 2 asian dh brothers in guild and they would reeee every time it never dropped

pallid quiver
round pendant
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my pwar is already 80, just need to get my dk some gear to spam tww dungeons

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oh wait I can already queue nvm

warm plinth
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Was gonna say I didn't think normal dungeons had an ilevel req

pallid quiver
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you need at least 700 ilvl to join the community in normal dungo, tho

round pendant
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Honestly I need to learn to make my own WA packs and enjoy it. #1 thing that prevents me from playing alts

round pendant
vocal flame
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700?!??!?!?!

tardy sequoia
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is anybody using luxthos or afenar WA? do you have a preference between the two?

vocal flame
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is that for real

round pendant
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nah he's lowballing, you'll get flamed tf out if you're not 770-800ilvl

vocal flame
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lol ok i get it

tardy sequoia
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pallid quiver
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side note, it's hilarious to me every time I see Prot Wars, since the ones that sit in battle take less damage than the ones who sit in d stance

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I don't even know how some of these prot wars manage to die so fast

vocal flame
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anyone got a fix for the Ignore Pain tracker that tells you how much you have?

fallow nova
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Or keep block up, but dump all of their rage into whirlwind for reasons unknown. That seems to be the most common one.

young tartan
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when do we get heroic next week?

pallid quiver
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one died in two autos

fallow nova
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Vs a boss?

pallid quiver
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First boss of priory

fallow nova
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Broken gear maybe

pallid quiver
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without the add lieus

fallow nova
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And not using buttons

pallid quiver
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defo was not using buttons at least

fallow nova
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We often advertise prot warrior as not taking damage, so I guess they just expected to... not take damage?

tribal wharf
pallid quiver
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That is in the pins, yogi

tribal wharf
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save the blues yellows all the headache of every 10 minutes

fallow nova
pallid quiver
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you'd be surprised, wardrum

tribal wharf
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you would think that

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not you in specific, but people as whole

lusty grotto
fallow nova
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I've seen some goobers in here, but rarely anyone in the "literally cannot play" category

lusty grotto
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no

fallow nova
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And we've talked about how slam would make an interesting single target rage dump, but none of us actually use it.

lusty grotto
round pendant
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setting up bars on specs I don't know makes me want to cry

fallow nova
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As someone who's gotten blasted with work and family events between last week and the upcoming one, I'm (selfishly) happy to not feel miles and miles behind already.

tribal wharf
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treat most unkowns that come here with dumb questions as thought it was a yogi situation

lusty grotto
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disagree

fallow nova
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Yam, check out the rotation guide on wowhead and see how it compares to specs you already know, and map accordingly

lusty grotto
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theres no other situation than a yogi situation

fallow nova
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Then adjust as you play

lusty grotto
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its very unique

tribal wharf
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just like me and you

fallow nova
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Explain the yogi lore.

lusty grotto
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indeed

tribal wharf
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uhhhh doom

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and then wow

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pallid quiver
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Yogi is simply built different

lusty grotto
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yogi is yogi

tribal wharf
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thats yogi lore

lusty grotto
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otherwise known as deathray44

tribal wharf
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always were deathray44 if you knew your yogi lore

fallow nova
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I remember the older profile pic and actual yogi name, I've connected the dots since then so far lol

tribal wharf
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since 1998-1999 original cardboard cut out runescape

lusty grotto
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its like asking my grandpa for a war story

fallow nova
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Those are always the best stories, though

lusty grotto
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if my grandpa was like 1 or 2 years older than me

warm plinth
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If you ever want to know about doom, you ask yogi

tribal wharf
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yes but no

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yellow title cards decino

warm plinth
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Also I think yogi is 40

vocal flame
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i miss yogi's videos

fallow nova
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The last doom game I played was Doom II

warm plinth
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Me too

tribal wharf
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yes really, he goes HARD on doom lore and mechanics

lusty grotto
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i miss the 20 WCM video

tribal wharf
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like, he knows like, exactly how bfg9000 works

warm plinth
lusty grotto
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yogi finally made everyone shut up

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and then he deleted it

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rip

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F

tribal wharf
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do you know how bfg 9000 ray trace ball light beam laser thingies work?\

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i sure as hell dotn

warm plinth
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I don't know what any of those words mean

tribal wharf
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loosely translated it 1 shots pretty much anything

vocal flame
fallow nova
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I do remember ye olde bfg

tribal wharf
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theres some way you can manipulate the bfg 9000 into high rolls by making the beams it fires from the ball where it lands by looking in a certain direction or some shit?

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its so much broken that you can 1 shot spider master mind if done correct

vocal flame
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I just saw that! I thought it was tomorrow

warm plinth
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That'd be useful with this expansion though. Lot of spiders

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Or crabs

tribal wharf
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this is the bfg 10k, which is directly powered by the bfg 9k by placing it in the cannon and firing it, on par with the laser that killed n'zoth for power scale

lusty grotto
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the big fucking gun

vivid orchid
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exactly nodders

tribal wharf
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put a gigantic hole on mars

warm plinth
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N'zoth got killed by a laser?

pallid quiver
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Yeah, my super laser piss

tribal wharf
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gigantic beam of heat and electricity? sounds like laser to me

pallid quiver
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Disclaimer, I only did LFR N'Zoth near Shadowlands pre-patch time because I skipped most of BFA because doo-doo expac

tribal wharf
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that neck power that was the u channel a big barrel shapped frontal of azerite was really nice too, that did a ton of dmg

lusty grotto
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im gonna have to ask you for your M+ card

warm plinth
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Essence of the focusing iris

lusty grotto
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innefable truth hpal peepoHappy

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versatile tanks sadge

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twilight dev peepoHappy

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good dungeons! mass pulls!

pallid quiver
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why do DKs hate damage

lusty grotto
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dogshit infested

tribal wharf
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i had always wanted to do a key of 5x, or at least 3/4 players use the it leaves a floaty stone thingy that granted main stat to party