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Just let things alone it’s a video game lmao
we did it!
in a good way
like her screen presence is wildly good
The first clip of xal was a shocker
also no laura bailey expect for like 2 quests
I’m like wait this isn’t very modern blizzard like

brother the first 15 minutes of the xpac just had me
like
Who is that
jaina
i dont like jaina but laura bailey is awesome voice actress
spoilers galore
nah
ill be back on tuesday
me no go into specifics
👋
#spoilered
ngl tho im impressed with how they handled the story this time
like the cutscenes
and good pacing
real
Very true
also lvling alts takes no time which is bis
this was me
It’s noticeably really good so far
in the first 5 minutes of the xpac
I’m still in zone 1
I’m doing all quests one zone at a time
Since I have all weekend

I honestly was kinda not hype at all and just kinda indifferent to xpac launch
I tried FF up until like level 62 or something
its how they do their story telling
but they hit the ball outta the park on the story so far
Do not care for it whatsoever
its an rpg not a mmo tho
yep i agree with this statement
brother do I have news for you

i dont play myself couldnt get past pray
:kekw
i have heard that yer
What’s the most brain dead class in FF
summoner
I don’t want to mess up my muscle memory for warrior
or maybe Dancer
So I’m talking like BM level of complexity
Ones melee?
Both dps?
one magical one phys
Hmmm
Should not
or any other macros to get rid of some button bloat?
You can macro stances together that’s about it
Idm being a chill range guy
yeah prolly dancer then tbh
Dancer or summoner it is
do I consume it right away?
dancer is a bit more dynamic
I’ll watch play style of both
Only downside is I think you unlock dancer at like 70?
The second you loot that the reward will be pre determined
So just open it if you have it
just use it
it doesn't matter
it's all going to be irrelevant once the season kicks off
Out of all the items I coudl get... I get that lol
I mean we were supposed to be limited to like 554 gear from normal dungeons and world quests are giving 567 lol
Oof
Any updated Warrior WAs for War Within?
Any updated Warrior WAs for War Within?
BETA <<<<<<<<< Original WA: https://wago.io/IkerOKywU Tells yo
someone posted this a few hours a go
is it worth keeping any tier??
damn, haste hit feels so bad
none of the world events are giving rewards yet, right?
ah, so fafo at your own risk basically?
anyone know, if i drop enchanting for something else, if i go back, do i have to start from zero again with patterns?
yep
thats so stupid
i understand starting over with skill, but like some patterns are a pain to get again
FFS
blizz really be trolling, not a single wep drop 70-80 😮
Never gone an entire season without seeing a weapon drop, I see
the what now 😮
managed to snag a 571 from a random rare in the last zone
Crafted lvl 80 blues arent too expensive
Any recommendation for a simple, minimalstic UI? Just the basic stuff, buffs, rage etc.
The simplest of them all ‘Elvui’
I guess i meant WA. Like nom makes but more basic.
not a single weapon in vault all of s3
cool game
also legendaryless until early february
was cool
having 483 weapons
at 487 ilvl
I think I got mine the same week as Crit lmao
no point though
replaced the second real dungeons are released
@apb yes delves drop gear, it's just not 100% everytime
help, the spiders killed me; i can't log in anymore after i tried to use their trash smh
Is there an updated weakaura for tracking ignore pain
that doesn't throw LUA errors
Naowh's WA is really good, but is premium (cost of a twitch sub, or free if prime)
Any general rules on when to break 4p?
Anyone know if crafting is bugged, specifically rings?
If you look at this crafted blue one, and then the random quest reward green one, the secondary stat allocations are completely off
It would certainly appear so
Yeah that has to be bugged
#protection message closest thing ive found
I think it's virtually guaranteed that they'll disable the tier sets at some point once the actual launch happens
aren't there some things that are scaling of char level instead of ilvl or something
i thought i heard something like that
Macro question if anyone can help. I'm using a charge/intervene macro but for some reason it won't intervene when I mouseover party frames
#showtooltip Charge
/cast [target=mouseover,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Intervene
/cast [target=target,harm,exists,nodead]Charge;Charge
I'm surprised with Crashing Thunder our target count for consuming outburst still hasn't really changed in TWW
but ig the rage generation is still the theory behind that
Crackling thunder doesn’t really change much
And yeah it’s mainly about the rage gen
Well, idk why that specifically isn't working, but that macro is a bit much.
#showtooltip Charge
/cast [@mouseover,help,exists,nodead][@target,help,exists,nodead]Intervene;Charge
am 79 now, probably get 80 tomorrow
When you level your alts, just do it through norm dung farming, esp as tank it is a blast, around 2-3 hours
One could say...
You are having a blast

All fun and games, untill boss requires AMS to cheeze the mechanic

play ac/dc thunder struck and talk like a boomer when u run with ur friends on discord
prot was a good spec, summin like lmao
"blizz finally come to their senses and buff us..."
but I don't know the dungeons FunkyKitty D:
omg, soooo worthless... Forgot i have to go visa run today, legit had to book a ticket 5 min ago and need to leave in 8.5 hours. Just to spend one night in another country and come back. Such a stupid system that ruined most of my early acc 😦
Booooo
Not like there’s anything to do lol
You’re not exactly missing much
Calm before the storm before one of the six tank discord sections is piled into because it's "meta best"

hey guys, is there a WA for Spell Reflect for S1?
baldy is picking vers mastery items,which wont help us
dont think h>c/v>m has changed, he still wants haste psure
million ppl watch him, someof them inevitably roll prot
What item level we need to get up to in order to queue for Random heroics
Hey there! Warrior noob here. Is there a way to keybind the stance bar? Or do I need to add the stances to my action bars in order to keybind them?
add the stances to your action bar
theres a macro on the wowhead guide to switch between battle stance and defensive stance with 1 button
Super quick question, why do the guides say to grab Rend but then I dont see it used anywhere in the rotations, at least for Mythic+ info.
there is a macro
it's applied passivly
Oh okay, I must have missed it. Through what talent? Also is Slam just bad and unused as well?
Ah I found it, just a passive
Is there a reason to learning Rend then at all?
It used to be via the blood and thunder talent, but now it's just applied
you still need to learn rend for the passive application to be applied, though
Oh I see
Effectively, they gave blood and thunder for free
Yeah I saw that on the Icy Veins guide
Well that helps me have less buttons then lmao
They're remnants from the level process, as they're both pre-level 10 all War spec abilities
whirlwind does serve a purpose as aoe until you get revenge during levelling, as well
I see
My Warrior was level 50 already, thats why I didnt use it I'm guessing. I already had Revenge
you get revenge at like level 14, so yeah
Stop yelling luerce
theres a special place on my ignore list for every hunter that pulls for me without missdirection
Anyone stuck on Echos of Compassion quest?
Can only heal 4/5 injured earthens
Same as everyone around me
nope, just finished it maybe half an hour ago
anyone else absolutely loving mountain thane
doing some crazy damage on par with my fury
is there a reason the guides do not recommend battle scarred veteran?
proper play you don’t need it
because it's only a pseudo cheat death that procs often unnecessarily and in order to take it you would have to remove one of our most powerful talents in order to take it
it’s a last resort of last resort picks
Like if you can't take Champion's Bulwark then you need another source of SB, Booming Voice is one of our best damage talents, Indomitable is our main source of self healing and VO is the highest rage involved talent we have
So you're left with what, losing ravager, a large % of our aoe and rage generation? no bueno
We'd take it if we could because it's still free DR, but we just can't fit it
just like cheat deaths, its a crutch, and while it has its place in extremely difficult content like rank 1 keys, having it will hinder learning the class because you will completely miss what is killing you and learning how to mitigate it
its also not a true cheat death
no
any fixates, you can intervene pretty much
nobody will
because it has never been needed
outside of Fenryr in DF
and Legion, i suppose
and most if not all of the fixates in DF were stoppable
NW 1st boss sure, but those are fixates
last boss mists as well, maybe
the boss is doable without
yes, they fixate
like ive said 3 times already, is it a fixate? then you can probably intervene it
unless blizzard decides to not make it intervenable
like 1st boss in BH
or Chargath's jumps (not a fixate, but should have been intervenable, yet it wasnt)
also intervene's buff only works if your buddy is less than 10 yards from you, its on the tooltip
or up to a max of 10 yards, i should say
if they are running like crazy and they outrange it, it doesnt do anything
on its own
we just upgrade items for ilvl do we?
or is there any case to keep set until ilvl xx?
Anyone has Atrocity old wa Shield block/ignore pain bars? I updated and didnt like new version
cause sims say so
Hello guys. Sorry if I am repeating a question
But do You also have an issue that You don't get colossal might from revenge no matter how many mobs get damaged?
I just wanted to know if that's known issue
I made a macro for when i swap between TR/Spear
sharing it here in case anyone wants it, @player can be changed to @cursor if preferred for Spear
It's a minor thing, but helps me when swapping stuff manually, since talent loadout swapping is bugged for me atm (tells me to spend all talents points... when I have... lol)
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Champion's Spear, @player] Champion's Spear; [known:Thunderous Roar] Thunderous Roar
okay, also is mountain thane better for all situations? confused as for raid builds there's builds for both.
theres multiple buils because u can play whatever u want

99% of players will have a better result just playing thane tho
whenever you can play ac/dc thunderstruck when gaming is a vibe to me so thane all the way!
okie dokie
Hmm ive got the feeling MT feels less „harder“ than demolition right now - or is it only me 😄
😂 thats right
Swimming through cold molasses with 12% haste
normal players dont get access until 2 more days +?
i wonder why they say its 3 day early access then
that would be 25th, if it start at 22nd, which it did
Actually it started on 25th at 23:55 !
😄 thats right
I was quite surprised of these grace 5 minutes
Do we replace tier this week or keep it till it's disabled or we get new tier?
well, if we start on wednesday
and it starts for normal players normal tuesday hours
isnt that like, 6 days?
we dont start on wednesday with addon
keep until disabled
cheers
Hello guys. Sorry for asking again, but nobody answered.
But do You also have an issue that You don't get colossal might from revenge no matter how many mobs get damaged?
I just wanted to know if that's known issue
For m+, is Champion's spear a must have or is rolling Thunderous Roar also fine?
Roar easier and range helps grab threat, spear more damage
play which ever u like
i tend to dislike spear because i'll place it on the moon
but i believe its supposed to be stronger that roar now
any colossus enjoyers? whats your Demolish hotkey? :p
I dont play it but when messed around with it had it on shift+5
should be what ever key is most comfortable for u
I want my haste back 12% is just absolutely terrible feeling
Yo guys, what can i do to prep for launch Tuesday?
Can i buy shit from AH if i dont have epic edition?
how about reach it then take a break, eat food and drink?
alt r iirc
needed it to be a keybind both arms and prot had open
No
any of the darkmoon decks worth it for leveling?
no
I know this is dumb, but our haste being shit is just cuz new gear right, we'll be able to get back up to a decent %?
cuz it feels like I have a fucking afflicted debuff the whole time
Yeah I'm at 100 full ilvls from cap so I'm assuming there's at least 20-25% haste hidden in there
so when should I start to break my tier set...I have 509 legs but just got some 515 should I switch them out
Any Colossus prots in here? 
I've been kinda out of the loop with prot warrior changes, but how come we're not taking Thunderous Roar in m+ anymore?
Season 4 tier set or what? I have Season 3 tier set only, and i guess thats binned early?
From looking at Champions Spear, it looks like the talents under it were massively buffed
idk in that case. fwiw theyre probably going to disable tier soon and it isnt like youre doing any challenging content for a long while
I see. I really liked Roar for the snap aggro it generated on pull, and idk how to feel about swapping it out for soemthing with double the cooldown haha
i bet spear will generate equal amounts of snap agro
if you had Uproad, which you usually didnt because we had to have Shockwave i think
is this worth opening now or nah
I see. Cheers.
I was mostly concerned with not having 1 big button for generating threat before DPS got bonked, but I guess our snap threat is much better with Thane anyway to lose out on some potential roar casts.
spear more dam for thane it is pretty much that simple. also tblast will cover your threat very well for thane.
tblast will be it fr
Ravager + Spear + TC should be plenty usually
Cheers, appreciate the info
Yeah, what's up?
I know races don't really matter but what's the general opinion on Earthen for prot?
play it if you like it i guess lul
hopefully you will be able to block during Empowered ability
would be very crappy if you cant
i thought the latest testing on that was you cannot block during it
couldve changed but as of about a month ago you could not
ah that sounds like a big L for prot Earthen then
Yeah not great! But honestly play what you want. Nome plans to swap earthen in case that informs how much shit like that matters
mountain or colossus for dungeon spam 70-80?
these percentages ok for shield block and ignore pain?
Rise up
doesnt really tell us anything we need logs to tell if u using them properly (yes even from normal dungeons), but looks a bit low
What do You mean?
It means like, represent.
Since I assume most will go Thane
It's hard to argue with sims
do we open this or wait?
Is heroic dungeons gonna follow the M+ dungeon pool?
I'm 97% certain that loot is generated upon getting the cache not when you open it but if you want to test it and wait until Tuesday you can
we're taking spear instead of roar?
when season starts yes
because sims
You can open this but aave keys until heroic and higher selves unlock.
thx
I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something
Anyone know which renown to focus on getting high first?
That's an FAQ that I'm hoping to have answered tonight
I'll update my guide when I figure out what the best way to get a crest is before mythic raid launch
Spear is better with mountain thane
that's what I'm seeing on everything and would have thought rend getting spread by TC would be buffed by roar adding bleed damage, hence the making sure I wasn't missing stuff.
with thane alot less of your dmg comes from bleeds
and spear by itself does good dmg now
compared to DF
Thunderous words got giga nerfed didn't it? I think the reason it was so amazing before is the bleed damage buff was 100% of the time, and now it's just during TR I think?
yes
TW would buff all bleeds by 15% permanently
whereas now its 30% only while TR itself is active
Can we talk about how TR was 1 point that buffed TR and all other bleeds for 1 point and bloodborne is still 2 points
Gotcha, I knew I was missing something. Appreciated for the info 😄
yes
oh I guess I'll just get your wa pack
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HOLY
or just get my pack yea
Wait
Doesn’t the icon change in the base UI?
Yeah that's what I'm saying
Okay I thought I was losing it
Unless I'm mistaken, it feels like we make a lot of WAs for things that the ui now can naturally do with edit mode
it does??
Yeah, TC becomes TB in the ui
yes base TC weakaura should transform by tiself
And lights up
I've been using Quazii's warrior pack since like S1 of DF
cuz it overrides it
I have elvui but it definitely changes for me with no additional cust9mixation
do we need to apply rend now?
Could be icon set manually in a WA pack instead of automatic but even then I still think it changes
no
Customization
ty
we have rend
What do you mean base rend
I should prob switch to nome's pack anyway instead of this super old quazii pack
even though I really like this pack
Still have to spend a point on rend lol
Oh nvm then I'm crazy
with my pack it almost plays the game for you! (in a good way)
We're all crazy here Wardrum
It's why we're here
It's the extra talent to apply it that got removed, right?
see it no change :^(
Yesir
All the best people are
ye than his pack whack
How tf did he even make it NOT change
he probably ignores spelloverride
I'm sure quazii's pack is fine if I got the newer versions lmao
Imagine having revenge as an icon shown
mine shows
Why I said it
I can't use WA packs
I haven't used any of quazii's WA stuff, but his plater profile has been extremely helpful
Quazii plater is goated
I just use my action bars as WAs other than a few
Fo sho
Same
action bars cant do the things that i want them to do
so weakauras are better
and way prettier

I make my own to track SB/IP and procs/stacks but that's about it
Remember for WA’s always use 30% zoom on icons unless you want it to look 20 years old
I have never tracked Ignore Pain in my life
real
oh the tclap aura has a trigger for thunder blast explicitly
I tracked it back in Legion and I still do just out of an OCD for how I like my setup to look
I don't think it automatically just works?
But we're pretty far removed from ye olden IP days
It does
The base spell automatically changes and shows the action button glow
Similar to shield slam resets
Just track thunder clap and make sure icon is set to automatic
Oh I see how it works now
Do you have a gaming mouse? They're pretty inexpensive nowadays.
I didn't start playing pwar until like ToS
My mouse has 15 extra buttons and costs like $40 usd
Only mouse button I use other than left and right clicks are thumb button to auto run lol
Hate those big layout ones
Yeah, most decent gaming mice are $40-50 nowadays
Or, the real big brain strat if you only have a 4 button mouse
You bind the forward/back buttons to ctrl/alt
Just bind every single ability to E with 20 different modifiers
Ez tripled keybinds
This is disgusting
I did it back in the day because mmo mice were a lot pricier
I find alt and ctrl much easier to hit on my keyboard with my left hand than as a side button on a mouse
I generally have a 1-6 set for most of my rotational abilities with Alt and then Ctrl modifiers, then things for E, Q, F, R with Shift or Alt modifiers for my left hand
I mean hitting them is one thing, combining them with normal binds on a fast paced spec is another
Like pressing ctrl-1 is awkward as fuck
?
Yeah, Alt and Shift are a lot easier to hit with keyboard numbers
Not if you can’t press ctrl and 1 lol
I usually do 1-5 as cds and around wasd for rotational
I'm not shifting my palm all the way over there lol
I didn't say I can't press it. I said it's awkward to press on a fast paced spec
whats the best renown items for prot warr that should be purchased?
All the way over where? Left side of my palm is practically on it already in neutral position
Anyone remember the old WoW keyboard that had literal graphics on each key that assumed a specific keybind setup?
In any case, it's just an easy suggestion for people who don't want to buy an mmo mouse
I'm also on a laptop keyboard, so the flatness of my keys kind of messes with that
Ok you are disqualified then
I could never
I never actually had one, but I'd never want one like that these days anyway lol
At least in a way that I could easily press ctrl with it
Plus the way you'd have to arch your hand when doing it
For sure
That's why we often say keybinds are deeply personal. Whatever works best for you is obviously the best, but that's super relative to each person and what equipment they have
Like I could do it if I had to, but it also severely limits what else you can reach
Should do a dungeon entirely on voice commands
And it's an awkward movement for me
Aside from movement
Did you ever watch that video back in the day of the guy who dual boxed scarlet cathedral with I think a mage and a priest
holding wasd the top side of my palm right under my pinky is above the ctrl button
And he used that voice recog program dragonsomething
Nah, never saw it
so just letting it rest and hit it is easy
to tell his priest to heal him
Idk maybe you have smaller hands than me or something
I have to like flatten my hand almost completely for me to be able to hit the ctrl key with that part of my hand
And rotate it to the left
I'd rather use Alt because then it's just my thumb on Alt and middle finger hitting whatever number
Yeah I have a full size keyboard and everything idk
Hold on maybe I can get a short video of what it looks like for me
alt is my main modifier, ctrl 2nd
Ignore the cat hair
I use shift and alt more with other left-hand keybinds because they line up with my pinky and thumb more easily
seems tiny the key spacing
hm, maybe idk
I've had this conversation about ctrl numerous times over the years though and I've never been able to do it on any keyboard I've had
I have a razer huntsman analog v2 right now. Before this I had a corsair k90, a blackwidow ultimate (the one with the M1-5 on the side), and then various random no-name keyboards
Also I only had my k90 for like 2 weeks because corsair's software pissed me off 
I only use the software to make it red all over so dont care much
I went with the huntsman because it has customizable actuation
which I liked because a lot of keyboards are too sensitive for me
Bruh these people who don't use linear scaling in their WAs
I just use my pinky for ctrl and shift, ctrl is just a bit more out of the way
who tf is scaling by 1.34342359 instead of just increasing the height/width of things manually
it makes it look like shit
why does it feel we have button bloat
We really don't.
All of our buttons do meaningful things
Some (like intervene) are just a bit more niche
half you key binds are not used that often
macro intervene into charge
saves one
Intervene, Berserker Rage, Hamstring, what else is rarely used
this is what i do
you will intervene a lot more in TWW
you give a abt 500k absorb shield to your target
and NW s1 first boss you do it all frontals
And angled away from your wow monitor for that matter
That's enough to cover roughly half a fart from a mob, correct?
Hello, I was wondering when we should start replacing our S4 tiersets. How many ilevels from the new gear offset the loss of the set bonus?
feels a lot ..
is on the side of having more buttons ye
oh ffs
Nice carpal tunnel yogi
That's the same picture isn't it
and how im able to hit VCX TY GH easily
My games on the left… can’t imagine it on right monitor
Like looking away from the direction of your keyboard monka
cropped, but ya, i was gunna add morshu to it but thats cringe and was also too difficult
Yeah I play on my left screen as well
it's probably a 10% shield on a dps
Weakauras pack on faq or did you upload a ui pack with the new option on wago
I guess that's enough to occasionally prevent a one-shot, but I wish it was larger.
the one from faq
the 2 lines is my main pov
ill however update weakauras rq
surprised i didnt label other games as doom
am i at any significant disadvantage if i play colossus prot just until KSH instead of MT?
no
its just weaker defensively than thane
youre still perfectly capable of doing whatever you want
sick, thanks for the insight
same
but then again I did random dungeons in between
for unlocking earthen
i didnt
i stricly follwed the guide
and hit 80 as i finished campaign

now i gotta look for the NPC
to continue the sidestory
.com

that doesnt help for shit
if you dont know which quests youve done in that storyline already
🙂
smartass
isnt there an old macro that run a script to check if a quest is done ?
Shouldn't there be a meta for it
I did rested xp to the max and it tooks me through all of the eathern
or 8/13
I bought it btw 
What story?
mourning rise
pretty sure you have done it all
if you say you followed the guide
why does my questlog look like this
what guide did you use specifically though
when im already level 80
There are multiple guides for leveling
God I hated this so much
think the last part of the quest was an NPC close to the mole machine thing
in ringing deeps
in a shop
or forge
The last part people are gonna do is behind closed doors or whatever it's called
the guide
only wnated me to do half of the questline
fuckin love it
cuz i hit 80 early
like 40 quests early
for some reason
Mourning rise story is pretty fast forward though
Did you do any professions
no
at 79, all the quests started giving 11 to 14k exp each
i despise professions
hm
so,
mob kills seems unlikely to cause that big of a difference
Did you do any side quests
I do professions to get engineering for brez item and 2x flask duration, thats it
otherwise wow token to make gold
only reason i hate professions now is cuz they make you get 100 points
then they only teach enough recipes for up to 50
then you have to use valuable cant fuck up materials
that pisses me off
it's a other 5 experiments and no new alchemy recipe episode
like, i figure, up to 75 with light rep
and then the final 25 points are the real bitch to get
im 40+13 smithing and then ???? engineer
Anyone who gas an idea of what renown to focus on ? Im totally lost on this
that and, you can craft lvl 71 72 gear, NOTHING until 80 then blues and epics
and its for random slots which things you can craft? like wtf?
those are very minor gripes though
So basically it's watching Dragonball Z. You watch 5 episodes but nothing actually happens
you mean yugioh
yugioh season 1 duels take place over the course of 5 full episodes Kappa
I wish champion's spear had a bigger radius (and a bigger spear tbh)
ugh
should I macro it to cast on myself
if you are like me, and place it on the moon, yeah probably
Champions spear feels like it doesn't fit , or maybe it's my 9% haste ....throw ravager ...demo ...throw spear ..so much build up damage amp moves. Then the spear radius just seems punishing to not get every mob also, more than dragons roar
Oh well
Listen, 13 year old me was absolutely fine with that
That shit went HARD
kuriboh multiplyin lookin ass bullshit
back in the day
cant even begin to describe how overpowered this bullshit was
1 tribute beats (trades with) a DM, wtf lmao
that and he can have +300 atk dark equipment spell
Real ones know twin headed thunder dragon is the goat
are sims accurate rn? and is dungeon slice a thing for prot? I know its hit or miss depending on class/spec
there's infinitely worse things than that in old yugioh
Win a shonen jump championship, become unbeatable because the prize cards were fucking cracked
So Quazii made a pwar guide and said prio TC > SS. In ST he did make a side note saying SS was more important ‘however the difference is pretty minor’ 🤔
There's only like 3-4 times the amount of rage gained difference depending on talents
And damage lol
Surely resources like mana, holy power, and focus don't matter
3-4 times, sounds minor to me kekw
SS is more than 4x the damage of a TC and maybe 1.5-1.6x a TB in damage alone
is DStance still the same DPS loss it was in DF?
I've seen several guides since the beginning of DF that really don't seem to take into account the overall impact the synergies/effects that rage spending plays into
It shouldn't have a damage decrease anymore, so you're just missing the free crit
so sticking to DStance might be the play sometimes now?
It’s 3% crit so damage 🤷♂️
If you don’t care then play in dstance and be safe and don’t worry about anything
If you wanna min max play in battle stance unless you would die doing it
my intution would say use battle stance if you are know you are safe, and defensive stance if you know you are going to take alot of dmg or possibly team is going to take a ton of dmg
yea like we did in DF, but just seems its way less crucial to juggle now as it was in DF with 16% dps loss
reason i mentioned team, is say, the healer might need to focus more on healing themself and dps and LAST thing they want to worry about is having to heal tank
oh for m+?
probably just a hand ful of bosses or trash packs
which tank does the most dps?
I'm gonna be in dstance by accident so much now because of the stupid ass auto switch
yea it auto switches when logging in
how far down is Prot?
This far |———————-|
given that they just retuned ALL trinkets
and half the embellishs arent in
nobody knows
all trinkets? huh
oh retuned
i thought you said RETURNED as in, they returned ALL trinkets lmao
like across expansions,
im going to dungeon level my warrior for a bit - should i use the levelling build or the dungeon build? was ondering if the dungeon build is very reliant on hero talents i dont have yet.
If you want to speed run then play as mountain thane and go for thunder blast as soon as you can
You just pull all trash on to the bosses every pull so anything that does damage
You definitely want bloodsurge
For dungeon you just stick with dungeons build with thane
i just switched to an @player macro for spear and it feels less awkward, any reason this could be bad ?
does anyone actually throw it like ravager
thane aoe dmg is nice
Could be bad cuz you ain't hitting all the mobs
I throw it with @cursor
You only get 1 chance with spear to hit the target
With @player you only use about 90-180° of the spear to hit targets
And thus cut the size of spear by default in half
Which is already quite small
good call, the cursor one feels smoother
still get extended phials from alch I think
but nothing like perks from a while back where you get better gems from jc, or w/e
why the fuck is it a thing
😠
Because god hates us
Coming back to WoW for TWW and seeing Nomeratur's discord icon isn't the cloud anymore is heartbreaking
because battle stance is just better
cooking gives hearty meals/feasts which persist through death
but technically anyone can use them, just likely more expensive
lets be real though
time we need any of that crap
keys above a 3, normal raids and above,
it will be widely avialable in most guilds 100000% in serious guilds consumes wont even be an issue or dent in the bank
food buffs and whatever
We can still add the speed boost on belt from engineering can’t we?
it has a rather high% chance (i forget, like 10% or 20%) rate of making you take 40% of your HP over like, 8 seconds.
so theres THAT
its fine if your healer knows,
oh, or it can rocket you straight up into the ceiling (basically no hieght cap, goes stupidly high up) and then you take (lethal i might add if it reaches full apex) fall damage + loss of control of character during that for movement
yes, with northrend engineering
Just noticed the animation/color changes that Avatar of The Storm applies. That's kind of a neat touch.
Sim it
I'm not 80 yet 
She lost arm
I'm aware
Shield attaches to shoulder
Please explain how the shield is strong enough to withstand a blow when it's attached by the top 3 inches of it
because absorbing a hit directly is stupid anyway
it's used to gain greater surface area to deflect and control
But she doesn't have the leverage to deflect or control if it's attached to her shoulderplate
Range of motion non existent
It’s silly fantasy logic
Same way fury has the strength and leverage to apparently deal proper damage and hit things with two giant ass weapons
In each hand
Functional arm or no, have you seen someone try to swing a zweihandwer single handed?
Your mom's a single-handed zweihander
if you are one of those guys that is like 6ft11 its not hard to pick up and swing big sword like that
Guys look at my lil baby shield
certain point its all physics
Control is everything in a bladed weapon
So kinda ineffective
Just right
It's still a lever of 5lbs or more swinging at high speed'
I like it actually XD
That becomes very easy to deflect and control as an opponent due to lack of leverage and control on the wielders part
The entire point of a sword is edge alignment
If you aren't aligned it ain't shit
Yeah but if you just wanted to crack skulls you use a mace
Because they don't require edge alignment
2h hammer = hydraulic press channel on youtube
One of the orphans in this town said I was weird looking 
how much power can you exert from 2h mace, in your swing onto enemy
Hurting is a lot different than doing damage and inflicting injury/death
Yes
sword is less, so like that, you can just poke them and then they get a cut and bleed to death
Cuts can be extremely quick death btw
anything can be an extremely quick death
Large arterial bleeds is like pass out in 20 seconds or less
I’m waiting for Blizzard to tune/disable some DF stuff. Hard to justify swapping out a few pieces lol
I'm such a fan of the new base shields, they go perfectly with mechagnomes
Give me all the low fantasy mog
Yeah dropping 4 set on my monk is like a 30k dps loss lol
Me pressing Ignore Pain on Prot Warrior
the true reason i quit doom eternal and never talk about that one so much, only lore of it:
Every single time i play eternal/2016 on UV/NM
for a prot Race are Dwarves racial bonus wise still the best bet?
Can't go wrong with them
i heard prot had trouble big with bleeds so i was thinking dwarf for self bleed dispell
has anyone tried earthen yet racials feel meh
ah full campaign note out yet?
nope
not
Nope, you can do the leveling campaign but not the 80 campaign
You can do all but the max level part
gotcha their racials feel less good than good the other 2 dwarf racials
I’m debating on making the swap just because I like how they look and they get to be horde lol
haha
well they are currently
I hear that Colossus is only slightly better than Mountain thane, what seems to be the consensus here just based on super early impressions
Colossus has a higher potential AOE damage point than Thane
That comes at a cost of being able to live
Thane beats colossus in every other regard, save ST damage where they're roughly equal iirc
Des talking like he's not gonna end up playing arms anyway 
Hear me out... Warrior build but no spear and no roar. Break the meta.
he hates cooldowns
Actually they are dying on the poor people have to wait and watch everyone else play the game they also bought and are subbed to for 4 days.
I can log in. I own the expansion and am subbed. But I didn't pay enough to win.
i mean, all it realistically does is let you level chars to cap and be prepared to get earthen earlier
There's not much of actual note that'sm unlocked to do
I am biased as someone who does have the early access, but I grabbed it since I wanted the cosmetics tied to editions and it gave a month's worth of sub-time anyhow, but it's not like I'm mega gaming the system or anything
can i make a macro for thunderclap/shieldslam that prios shield slam if its off cd?
i know this is a little nooby but my hands are kinda small im trying to minimize buttons on prot warr
u cannot
u wouldnt want to, anyways
theres times when u want to prio clap over ss
any one what the best Hord race is for prot warriors for dps or surv?
bloodmalit seems to be down
Dps is probably dwarf or Tauren. Surv is kinda whatever but dwarf has stoneform which is good if there's a dangerous bleed
Cool ty for the info Im hord and am a troll atm :S so was thinking of changing to some thing like tauren or highmontan thingy
In the end it's whatever unless you're going for really high parsing or something
does ignore pain no longer stack
It still stacks
ooh
Can't go wrong with troll, haste racial is really good
I just hate the way nothing looks cool oh them and they are all ways hunching over :S
Yeah honestly aesthetics is a huge part of our gameplay
it's why I don't touch dwarves and their silly ass running animation
Give them a haste buff and they look like they're running to the bathroom after sharting themselves
Is there a general ilvl gap at which we consider breaking tier?
immediately once it's disabled
where does avoidance fit into our stat priority?
So, new stat rating requirements:
Haste: 660 per 1%
Crit: 700 per 1%
Mastery: 700 per 1 mastery point
Versatility: 780/1560 for 1% damage/damage reduction
eh, i'll just wait for my addon to tell me the break points :S
It doesn't. The only time you'd consider avoidance is if you had two identical items and one had avoidance and one didn't
lowest tier
tier 1 is armor and str, tier 2 is crit mastery stuff, tier 3 is speed a void
always always filter by this, with the exception of effect, mostly for trinket
set bonuses or whatever typically give a like, 1%-5% buff something like trinket can be like as much as like 10%
you would need like 1000 or 5000 avoidance to equal 50 str
is it better to use devastator or devastate?
i imagine blizz is waiting til early access is over to disable it
just a guess though
This is my prediction as well
What kind of cursed macro is that
LMAO
why would ignore pain even be in that macro
going to rage starve yourself like crazy
heyy, i dropped the plan to craft this item but there are only 47 on all of the EU servers so we don't know if it's gonna be useful or not. Does anyone knows if it can be a BiS crafted item for prot warr ?
Looks quite bad to me but I'm not sure where the other embellishments are at
That's a little over 1% vers (damage)
on wowhead they say it's useless but it's only 97 vers
while in game it's 823 vers
Well, when you consider that historically, even the best embellishments end up being around 1% DPS, and this is ~1% dps only a portion of the time
That means it probably is pretty useless
even if u can "boost" ur mates with the proc ?
You're not really boosting them. You lose some of it to give to them
Not to mention, 3 yards means you virtually have to be touching them
Which as a tank is not a great idea generally
Sir thunderfucks is when I get my ass blasted off of the center of EotS by a Shaman Thunderstorm and scream "FUCK" all the way down
what the heck is "damage reduction"? and what does it mean to have 46,620 of it
You took 100,000 damage? Reduce it by x amount. I have no clue if it's applied pre or post mitigation tho
this why orcs bis
angry race, axe race, still manages to look good in a lot of armor
maghar orc male has top tier voice delivery
don't listen to him, it is a tank's privilege to frontal the DPS
I am with you, especially on fury spec, orc fit so well.
What you boys doing once you ding 80? I figure I grind world quests out but that’s it so far
I might be slow enough these days that everything's out right around the time I hit 80
Do we know if we share renown on all characters + the fastest way to grind renown is just leveling a bunch of alts through the main questline?
Same I’m not in a rush anymore
Playing Dead by Daylight
I love quest completion, gonna get a head start on that before I commit to dungeon spamming
renown/reputation is shared for sure in TWW
rep for each main quest is a one time bonus
you get it once
hrm
so is lining up violent outburst w/ thunder blast something i should be doing consciously
like only press avatar once outburst is on deck
that sounds an awful lot like holding your CDs
guys, what race are we rocking in this season???
is the new dwarf any good for us??
orc or mag'har orc
is it ok to replace all tier or keep 2 piece?
How's prot seem compared for tww? 🙂
the same as now
Tanky as shit, good dmg, limited raid-wide strengths
I don’t forsee it being meta but I think right now 5 out of the 6 tanks look really strong
WHY DO BREWs NOT LIKE RJW

lvled it yesterday
looked and build
Dude right now it’s legit






at worst



