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strong forum
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and it wouldnt matter

tribal wharf
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i never even looked up what it does

tropic tangle
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bigger picture, there are very few guilds that see a tangible benefit from shotgunning 4 pc on the specs that 'benefit the most'

tribal wharf
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probably some, "when shield block ends, you gain 10 mastery"

honest hare
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kinda sad xD

strong forum
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tierset is pretty weak for all warrior specs

tribal wharf
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for 3 seconds

strong forum
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our tierset is, shieldslam does 5% more dmg and when it crits your next TC or Revenge do 10% more damage

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thats it

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MEANWHILE BREWMASTER

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gets a 20% dmg buff to kegsmash and 3% all dmg increase from kegsmash

honest hare
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na we have DK and Port Warri tank xD

strong forum
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like HUUUH

tribal wharf
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10% dmg on spender and builder seems good

strong forum
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not if those only make up 40% of our dmg

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like tierset

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is 1.6% dmg total

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for us

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4pc

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from 0 -> 4pc

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is 1.6% dmg increase

tribal wharf
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its always hard for me to anchor what sort of dps im supposed to be doing

strong forum
tribal wharf
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what is uptime and dps on that

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the 2

lusty grotto
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sigh

tribal wharf
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seems like 66% uptime or higher prolly 1.0% dps my guess

strong forum
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80%

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during combat, if you play well

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its closer to 100%

tribal wharf
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i figured that, didnt know if its intended to be up 100% of time

honest hare
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so for me probably 80% xD

strong forum
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it is intended

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cuz the tierset is insanely weak

tribal wharf
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probably will be closer to 90% and this discord will push for 100% or gtfo during that season

strong forum
tribal wharf
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hasnt even launched yet, i have to assume people will get that number up

strong forum
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for as long as you have full uptime on the mob itself

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you should have it up for 98% of the time

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obv you dont have it at the start

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and whenver youre doing a mechanic that requires you to leave melee range

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you will lose the buff

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so >90% in most fights is expected

tribal wharf
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doesnt stack ( i think ) so that seems fine

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not some thing you have to micro

strong forum
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something of this little impact, and automatically built into your rotation, yeah, not worth trying to play around or track

turbid shuttle
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think it's still being worked on. there's a couple examples I've found that are not actually reflectable (charge on trash before last boss stonevault for example)

toxic pewter
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I think I have that from DF will it update or is that a new wa altogether

turbid shuttle
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Believe it's a new WA. Delete old and download new.

toxic pewter
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ok thx

lusty grotto
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for those of you guys that never got the shield

toxic pewter
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oh yeah i need that shield

tribal wharf
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if u mean the gold round one

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i saved TW coins for that

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then i bought it

lusty grotto
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thats not available through TW

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what are you on about

tribal wharf
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it is

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1000%

lusty grotto
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nope

tribal wharf
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ya im infinitely positive on that unless they changed it

lusty grotto
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they didnt change anything

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it was never available in TW

tribal wharf
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u need to wait till its legion tw and u have 3k tw coins

lusty grotto
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yogi

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no

tribal wharf
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yes

lusty grotto
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youre 100% wrong

tribal wharf
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........ timer walking dungeons?

lusty grotto
vivid orchid
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this is the timewalking shield

tribal wharf
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@lusty grotto

lusty grotto
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yes, you got it running S1

tribal wharf
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? uhh hmmm ill look it up

vivid orchid
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it had to have dropepd

lusty grotto
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brother Chamber just linked the TW shield

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let me link this again

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just in case you didnt quite get it

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enhance:

tribal wharf
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my source is that i made it the fuck up

lusty grotto
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no shit

tribal wharf
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trying to rpomtp u into me speech 100

lusty grotto
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uh huh

tribal wharf
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this is somehow core memory for me but ok

tribal wharf
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i had looked it up on wowhead and shared it with the discord and everything

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it cost 3k and i had to wait till legion tw whatever it was i got

vivid orchid
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thats all correct except the actual model

tribal wharf
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well, explain what you mean im done that dungeon now

vivid orchid
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heres every shield purchasable with badges

tribal wharf
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ohhh it was that one the epic one

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aegis

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ah, your corect, i got which one was connected to which source wrong

lusty grotto
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just dropped

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these should be live

vivid orchid
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holy shit

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just the magic ones god damn lol

toxic pewter
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POG AND smart

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good!

austere oar
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Holy shit

tropic tangle
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hot damn

austere oar
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Blizz actually acting

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W

toxic pewter
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blizz with nonstop wins lately

tribal wharf
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me dum

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why this good

austere oar
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These spells are one the mains reason why we have a caster meta

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In m+

tropic tangle
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any help towards breaking aug/mage/x is a step in the right direction

toxic pewter
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magic damage is getting more and more common with time vs physical dam

vivid orchid
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theres too much caster synergy

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way too much

tropic tangle
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yeah, aug really threw the wrench in

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double dipping through their buffs

vivid orchid
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"aug solves all your problems"

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is a really dumb balance

toxic pewter
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anytime I think of aug I just remember the dude that designed that monstrosity.. literally launched it to live, then quit within like 1 or 2 weeks to go work for greg streets new company.. dude was like peace out u all have fun with that crap

south zealot
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here we go

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zzzz

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name 1 patch in all of m+ history mage and dh have been meta when they havent done good damage

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their buffs do not make them meta

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they make them stronger than they would be anyways but they have been meta when they were bc they just did the most damage

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even if vdh wasnt so good in s3 you wouldnt play havoc (ppl thought it was op just not brought bc vengeance was the best tank)

lusty grotto
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choco you know i agree with you

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but this is not a bad change

south zealot
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i agree its a good change

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ppl will just misconstrue it

lusty grotto
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especially when AI double dips

south zealot
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mystic touch arguably needs a 2% buff ontop of this

lusty grotto
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both from dps to heals

south zealot
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battleshout should be unchanged

lusty grotto
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yeah i agree with mystic touch

vivid orchid
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mhm

toxic pewter
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mage needs to be dumpstered

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into the ground i say

lusty grotto
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youre no different than when people see reflect damage

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"delete warriors"

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or "nerf reflect"

toxic pewter
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lol

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only prob is mage has been too powerful for far too long

lusty grotto
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mage is only powerful because of the full comp, not by themselves

toxic pewter
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into the ground i say

south zealot
vivid orchid
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much of the melee specs are limited in ways mage isn't

south zealot
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well its just that mage is good enough or really good at wverythi

toxic pewter
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its ok fire and frost getting nerfed, here everyone have arcane LOL

south zealot
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everything

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good enough aoe, good team live button, great prio damage, great cc, great defensives

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you cant have a class be good at everything

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when mage didnt do prio damage they do an OBSCENE amount of aoe

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to the point that it doesnt even matter if they dont have prio damage

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(s1 sl, s2 df)

vivid orchid
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didnt fire have effectively completely uncapped aoe

toxic pewter
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their defensiveness is what gets to me.. like theyre supposed to be glass cannons

vivid orchid
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and frost too to a point

vivid orchid
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yeah waht melee has that again? lol

south zealot
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flamestrike as been completely uncapped multiple times

tribal wharf
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frost seems alright to me

tropic tangle
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honestly feel a little bit bad about brand though, it's the mage/aug interaction that is actually broken

south zealot
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mage aug interaction is overplayed imo

vivid orchid
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adding brand is a natural conclusion when you start stacking numbers

tropic tangle
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granted, the vast vast majority of damage overall is magical

south zealot
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it’s a problem but not a huge, huge problem

toxic pewter
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frost mage is insane in pvp right now lol, ice lance critting people for 500k LOL

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they hurt bad

tribal wharf
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i was topping dps meterse in LFD leveling

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but i saw some like lvl 30s and 20s so

lusty grotto
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sleeping SP

south zealot
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it was like a 12

grim pilot
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Is pwar doing more dam

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Now in prepatch

south zealot
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yes

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huge buffs

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do a key rn

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u can get 700k+ overall with no aug i think

grim pilot
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Im not home

south zealot
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breh

grim pilot
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Wont be till tww

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Yeahh

austere oar
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How recent was the last patch where all 3 mage specs were not meta ?

south zealot
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all 3 are never meta

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unless u mean no mage spec was meta

austere oar
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One of them

grim pilot
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All of df mage was meta

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Idk about anything before

south zealot
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well here lets retrace steps patch by patch

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will be more fun

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s4, fire and frost were both meta

austere oar
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When was the last time mage didn't have at least 1 spec that was meta

south zealot
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s3 fire and to a less extent arcane was meta

tropic tangle
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s3/4 SL?

south zealot
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season 2 fire and frost were meta

tropic tangle
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by virtue of broken surv / destro

south zealot
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season 1 was arguable

grim pilot
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It was all about fire

south zealot
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ther ewas like 8 viable dps in df season 1

south zealot
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i mean

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frost

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so if u wanted to drop fire youd drop it for frost

grim pilot
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Yeah maybe it was good but the β€œmeta” strictly was fire

south zealot
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true true

grim pilot
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Im not denying it wasnt good

south zealot
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sl s4 fire was the third best dps

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if you dont want to count that as meta thats up to you

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surv and destro were obviously the 2 best

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sl s3 it was tied with monk for third dps

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so same thing if you dont wanna count that as meta its up to you

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sl s2 frost was meta

tropic tangle
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eh, yeah, I didn't play a lot both of those seasons. just surv/destro stands out

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I remember Frost in S2

south zealot
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sl s1 fire was meta

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bfa season 4 fire was meta

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bfa season 3 was largely dominated by physical dps

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you had some balance druids and mage but rogue warrior dh were the 3 best dps

vivid orchid
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Those mechagon bracers made fire nuts

grim pilot
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So since titles were invented mage was meta every season

south zealot
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bfa season 4 went live january of 2020

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so mage has been arguably meta for 4 and a half years

lusty grotto
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lol spammer

south zealot
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with a few months of arguable non-metaness

grim pilot
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Arms meta pls

lusty grotto
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slarms is looking good

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albeit, nothing new to the spec

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col arms does good throughput too

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just feels like ass to play

tribal wharf
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week ago we were talking about interupts here, so i had AI make a song about interupts in wow, still impressed with the result.

viral elk
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back after being gone for a few months. weak auras track IP uptime but not value anymore?

lusty grotto
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the amount of people asking for IP WAs to track it when its not really needed is too damn high

tribal wharf
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add pin " u dont need to wa for ip"

lusty grotto
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we cant

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because theres nuance to it

viral elk
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just curious if something changed with how they work, no biggie

lusty grotto
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yes all of them are broken because of spell id shenanigans

viral elk
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makes sense, ty

lusty grotto
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most will be corrected in the coming days

mellow quartz
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let's not forget the most important change in that blue post
"Fixed a bug that prevented the application of the Nitro Boost belt enchant on some equipment."

lusty grotto
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oh shit i missed that

tribal wharf
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i figure will try to get some levels on alts i might do

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barely any lvl 70

lusty grotto
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the event is great exp

fallow nova
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This one works

mellow quartz
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all you need to do is tick on 'fetch tooltip information' under triggers and then add a text field for '%1.tooltip2'

void shard
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Is there a plater thing or a weak aura which makes it easier to know what spells are worth reflecting or do I just learn them for each dungeon ?

urban bane
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There are targeted spell WAs one can use. But it is better to learn them for the dungeon where you can

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a lot of times the targeted spell WAs can lead you to reflecting something which is weak when a juicier reflect is down the line

void shard
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Alright thanks , I guess that I will stick to the spreadsheet then and tweak bw if there is something that I feel is important

fallow nova
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Quazii's plster profiles will often show dangerous casts as large orange bars instead of normal

mellow quartz
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you quickly realize which spells are important to reflect or not

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like anima slash in Mist and Shadow Claw in Stonevault

jagged gust
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And sometimes it's not a reflectable cast but you need SR for the DR anyways

mellow quartz
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say in City of Echoes you can completely negate the last boss 'Slice' by having SR for each cast, deflect only but very valuable. Further all the Eye of the Queens, Void Rush is a valuable deflect

void shard
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Yeah that is what I was looking for

round cliff
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ig i should ask here actually

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earthen looking W or L for prot war

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the 10% armor from gear prob matters way less than i think it might

mellow quartz
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Regular dwarf is the way to go if you care

lusty grotto
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its not an L

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but its not a W

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by definition, they are mid

round cliff
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does the extra str not even bump them to the top of dps?

vivid orchid
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playing it comes at the cost of having a worse food buff

round cliff
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oh u can't get primary stat

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that's unfortunate actually

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so naturally the answer is pandaren...

plush tendon
lusty grotto
merry sluice
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except for pug fire mages, fuck those

lusty grotto
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i cant make up my mind in which mount to freeze for this trading post thing

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i figure i have enough fucking cats

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does anyone know if they are faction specific?

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cause the description kinda makes it seem they are

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but they dont say faction specific anywhere

bleak breach
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What faction are you on?

quasi hill
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anyone got a good auto marker for m+?

bright turret
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Is it possible to have 100% uptime on shield block? Does it change at all with TWW?

vivid orchid
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yes, no

bright turret
# vivid orchid yes, no

Thanks. Guess I need to go re-read everything again. Not able to get 100% uptime on the training dummies.

jagged gust
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There's a bunch of possible answers as to why

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I feel like we should make a checklist for easy troubleshooting lmao

bright turret
lusty grotto
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yes

jagged gust
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dropping HR requires a certain haste rating yes

lusty grotto
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its haste dependant

bright turret
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Ahh, that's probably it. My gear is horrible on this guy

lusty grotto
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ITF requires more than 5400 haste rating right now, which will change with leveling

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as in the number will increase for every level you gain

round cliff
bright turret
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Thank, that all makes sense. Sounds like I play heavy repercussions for now until I get leveled and have enough haste. 3400 isn't gonna cut it πŸ™‚

lusty grotto
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we will all play HR after a certain point while leveling

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if i had to guess, ITF wont become relevant until s2 maybe

lusty grotto
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nothing says faction specific

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so im asking because right now, i dont have a lot of horde characters

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im guessing nobody bought it lmao

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or the wolf

round cliff
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i bought the manasaber and ignored the wolf xd

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as horde tho so. im no help

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but if it doesnt say faction specific then it isnt, iirc

lusty grotto
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ima just freeze the wolf

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fuck it

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like i said i have way too many fucking cat mounts

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both do look dope, ngl

round cliff
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ive had the fury of the firelord 1h mace frozen since the time it went up, i think from the like 2nd month of trading post

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patienty waiting for them to add fire transmog that doesnt look like ass

vivid orchid
jagged gust
merry sluice
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is this accounting for the lower haste value from itf also?

lusty grotto
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that doesnt matter

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well

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actually it does

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because it might require more than the current percent

vivid orchid
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if we make an assumption then its like 22k

lusty grotto
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in fact

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its probable that 5400 isnt the ITF swap point anymore

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since the ITF nerf

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best to ask nome, but honestly at this point...

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were days away from early access and a week from official release so yea

vivid orchid
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there probably 5800~

bleak delta
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its a feature

round cliff
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he's supposed to do that

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been doing it for years

misty salmon
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hey guys, whats the best race for prot between dwarf and nelf ?

jagged pier
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which ever one u like the look of the most

misty salmon
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now thats a hard one

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they both look sick with plate armor

pallid quiver
# lusty grotto since the ITF nerf

One of the other things to note about this, though it's a lot later, is that there's also less incentive to use ITF due to it giving you less damage than before, as well

jagged gust
sick sentinel
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You can tmog legendaries now?

jagged pier
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have been able too for a long time now

stoic pilot
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+1 for human they look sick

cunning inlet
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Given the dungeons coming up, do you prefer dwarf or night elf racials ?

waxen frigate
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Nelf is usually less valuable as tank

strong forum
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Dwarf

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I am NOT biased I swear

cunning inlet
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tyty πŸ™‚

cerulean tusk
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Nelf so you can kill annoying DPS

strong forum
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Wrong

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I've lived multiple times

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When my tank tried to troll me

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Cuz arms is based

cerulean tusk
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You also died keks

strong forum
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lightning fast reflex dbts

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Wrong

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I've never died in a video game

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Or real life for that matter

cerulean tusk
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As long it ain't a long cast frontal cone, ya good okayge

strong forum
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And a certain 3second cast

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cast that wasn't hasted at the time

cerulean tusk
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Wonder if demolish gonna get ppl killed keks

toxic pewter
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Most definitely will and already has been

willow edge
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Does demolish scale with haste or is it flat 2 second cast? And yes, watching people die cause they use it in a aoe will be amusing

strong forum
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It's hasted

plush tendon
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thats a og mog right there

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Replace Tomb Set with the set from TBC

plush tendon
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very important to make the Female Nelf vs Male Nelf distinction

cerulean tusk
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Female Nelf looks better in most mogs, Male Nelf looks better with most helmeted mogs

Chose based on your preference in the barber, when fixing your mog

plush tendon
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naw, male nelf is always worse

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Dwarf is bis with open face helmets: EX: this upcoming tier and ICC tier

tribal wharf
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kind of excited that "onyxia lair" is coming back

plush tendon
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Human is prob the best all around though

tribal wharf
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i find those types of raid bosses to be a great stepping stone since you just go in and its 1 boss, you kill it or you dont and then its over and you get loot

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maybe its more like VOA, im not entirely sure, gruels lair

gentle dirge
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Sorry to but in,whats the hero talent most likely for prot M+?

jagged pier
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thane

tribal wharf
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probably thane, it was one of the very first ever introduced

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so its clearly getting attention that tree

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someone was just saying, the colossus ability gets them killed often, due to why, not entirely sure, think its cuz locked in place + fire pool

royal marten
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Sometimes you just want to smash and the game picks you in that very same moment to do a mechanic

jagged pier
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standing in something to channel demolish except one thing in one dungeon because its overtuned wont kill u

dusky canopy
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What if we demolished with our shield

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That would be sick

cerulean tusk
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what if demolish got reflavoured to... Neltharion's Fury?

lusty grotto
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then we get free talent points cause we wont need Champs Bulwark or Bolster

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NF wasnt as much damage though

plush tendon
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Prot War should use 2 handers

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and Fury should use 1 handers

cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
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One day I am going to be mod gladge and I will ban Augusto for that comment

limpid ruin
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Fury should just use its fists imo

long swan
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Prot should use two shields and hit people with them

jagged pier
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bring back SL bug that let me tank with 2 hander and shield

merry sluice
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wow devs are too scared to give me threehanded weapons

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js

formal meadow
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if i do LFR and dont get items can I do it again to hope for other people rolls?

toxic pewter
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can do each boss once a week for loot. cant even be traded loot from a boss you already killed for the week.

merry sluice
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you'll get locked out after you kill a boss on that difficulty until the next weekly reset

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if you're still unsure

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do /raidinfo

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on the toon in question

dusky canopy
misty shuttle
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Any good wa’s around

lusty grotto
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nome's, quazii, afenar, luxthos, kharkhan, dorki for general warrior use and free

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atrocity, naowh premium twitch sub required

elder totem
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do we know if we are getting a charge for tier pieces every week or every other week at start of s1 of tww?

lusty grotto
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every other week same as any season

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any regular season, i should say

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wait no

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im confused now

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should be every week

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every other week sparks

elder totem
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oh sick, i was thinking it'd be every other week for tier charges. That's great news πŸ˜„ if it's not the case nbd same as it always is, but there is hope copium

lusty grotto
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its always been every week

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i just gaslight myself confusing with sparks (and in this last season bullion buys)

elder totem
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was it every week?

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i thought it was every other?

lusty grotto
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no

elder totem
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maybe it's a mandela effect

lusty grotto
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its been every week since SL

elder totem
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jeez im just a dumb person then lmao

lusty grotto
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granted, SL's catalyst sped up over time

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but started as weekly

tropic tangle
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I thought it started as every other and got changed at some point

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but that's probably wrong

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jesus, was it really every other week until this season?

lusty grotto
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SL's was weekly

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but i guess DF earlier seasons werent

lusty grotto
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ok well

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we dont know anymore then

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its likely it wil be bi-weekly given their stance on gearing

elder totem
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yeah more than likely 😦 sadge

tribal wharf
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as long as i get all the tier pieces i dont really care

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i often enjoy to just equip all 5 set pieces

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feels better to have ALL of the set item list light up

elder totem
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it's just annoying because i don't like raiding too much :/ it is what it is though. Thanks yall

tropic tangle
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not that our tier set is much to write home about

tribal wharf
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well, they have a solo training mode for raids now dont forget

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so you can just pop in and learn at your own pace without having to worry about real life people getting upset

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and then once you learned the fight and finished it, probably get an achievement you can share when group finding

fallow nova
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The solo story mode will only be for the final boss

tribal wharf
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oh really, okay then

tulip harness
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Yo, does anyone that has experience leveling early xpacs from before, or from beta or whatever have an opinion on what class/specc is most efficient to level through questing/campaign? I'm gonna level all 6 tanks, and never leveled early in an xpac before. Gonna do the campaign on my first one and level through dungeon spam on the remaining ones unless it costs a lot of time. Curious if anyone has an idea what I would be best off leveling doing quests

pallid quiver
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it can depend

Usually questing will be a bit faster than dungeon spamming if done efficiently, but can burn you down, but there's other alternative levelling methods that can sometimes be faster. There's also often some ways to power level that aren't entirely intended, either. I'd recommend just keeping abreast in th eearly days after you finish levelling your first char (you'll likely need to clear the whole quest storyline at least once to have access to most things, anyhow) to see if there's anything people are flocking to in order to level fast

tulip harness
#

Yeah, I get that. What I'm unsure about however is what class/specc (of tank classes) that is more efficient to quest with. I'll be doing the campaign on my first one anyway, so I'm trying to figure out which one will be more efficient to quest with

dusky canopy
#

You can solo open world stuff as any tank very easily

toxic pewter
#

prot warr a great open world questing tank imo

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and dungeon lvling tank too

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charging, leaping, just owning crap left and right

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taking no dam

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clapping

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ravaging

dusky canopy
#

If you want to go fast you probably don’t want to do BDK or Prot Pali

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Although

tulip harness
#

Yeah, it doesnt have to be a tank specc tho, if any tank class has a dps specc that is particularly efficient I don't mind playing that as well. Someone suggested boomkin for example, mentioned they had a lot of benefits

dusky canopy
#

BDK has that mounted combat now

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So actually might be super fast

toxic pewter
#

na bdk dont have that

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just unholy or frost

dusky canopy
#

Oh right that’s for the DPS

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Nvm

jagged pier
#

Lvling is fast angway its like 6-7 hours if u watch cinematics

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Doesnt really matter what u play

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If you ooay at launch ut onyl matters how fast u can get out og the first questing area

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If u arent

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It doesnt natter at all

carmine zodiac
#

is it normal if my Shield Slam absorb rend sometimes? I can't find which talent does this

tulip harness
jagged pier
#

And with hyper spawn and tagging updates that dkesn really matter anymore

toxic pewter
#

just thought bdk with the new horse combat.. that would be insane lol riding around and shit death striking crap

jagged pier
drifting portal
jagged pier
#

Which is giga fast

toxic pewter
#

i havent actually tested it at all

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interesting

carmine zodiac
jagged pier
#

But i will say this about this expansion there literally nothing to do

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For weeks

toxic pewter
#

wait the horses dk use in combat can fly or can u pick the mount even

fallow nova
#

All good

jagged pier
#

So there is 0 need to go fast

jagged pier
tulip harness
#

Yeah okay, thats a lot faster than earlier then, isn't it?

jagged pier
#

In open world

toxic pewter
jagged pier
#

I dont get why your trying to rush mjtzzz

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U cant do anything in early access but lvl

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And still nothing after that till the 9th

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They want u to enjoy the story

tulip harness
#

Last thing I'm wondering and I'll stop wasting your time, just in general, do you lose a lot of time questing as a tanking specc opposed to a dps one? or does being able to pull more and never die make up for the dps loss?

fallow nova
#

No, pulling an entire area is far more efficient

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and questing bosses die fast nomatter what

toxic pewter
# jagged pier In open world

interesting.. you can mount a flying mount while in combat and fly away i just tested it.. but gotta summon a new flying mount. thats actually kinda crazy lol also taking damage no longer interrupts summoning mounts

tulip harness
#

Yeah I just want it to be overwith asap, I just find leveling extremely boring, so I wanna do it as fast as I can, no other reason than that

fallow nova
#

Then yeah, just play tank and kill half a zone at a time

tulip harness
#

fair enough, sounds like a plan

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thanks guys

fallow nova
#

I'll be taking my sweet time, personally. I'm well past the point where I feel like rushing anything in wow

toxic pewter
#

since the game has zero stakes anymore or systems to work toward the hype is def less for me than previous expansions

dusky canopy
#

Miss my AP grind and Corruptions

toxic pewter
#

hopefully the story has some stakes at least.. need to see some characters die

#

servers up na

vivid orchid
#

Given its a structured trilogy this time I'd be annoyed if there were no stakes

tender cove
#

Anyone know why half my elvui buttons are just green icons?

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The tooltips shows correctly but just a green box

dusky canopy
#

Up to date?

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Sounds to me like you were using a UI with custom icons and that was broken with one of the blizzard patches

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Green box just means the texture is missing

keen leaf
tender cove
keen leaf
#

talents got reset last week because of massive changes on all classes

lusty grotto
#

oh great

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captain unhinged is back

tender cove
tender cove
lusty grotto
#

nah bro you need to see some help

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hopefully you did

dusky canopy
#

Yes that is a missing textures situation

#

You probably have to clean install elvui to get them back or something

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

well that makes a lot of sense

tender cove
#

I left south america about 6 months ago though. Doing much better, thanks for asking πŸ˜‰

lusty grotto
#

im happy to hear that

tender cove
lusty grotto
tender cove
lusty grotto
#

as long as you were able to learn from it

tender cove
# lusty grotto as long as you were able to learn from it

I dont want to derail it too much. But i did yes. I learned that no matter how shitty you feel? Its only ok as long as you feel shitty, once you start using whatever happened as an excuse you continue fucking up? Thats when its no longer ok. But it is what it is.
I dont really have much words for it. Im happy im still alive, if i put it like that πŸ™‚

dusky canopy
#

Fort Incorp and Sanguine!

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Apparently keys this week

lusty grotto
#

its a last hurrah for those

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yuck

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good riddance

tribal wharf
#

have you guys tried BMWK yet?

lusty grotto
#

not yet, but ill probably pick it up later on

toxic pewter
#

METZEN confirmed Vulpera player

#

get rekt nerds

lusty grotto
#

im just hesitant when it comes to chinese media

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dont wanna get rootkitted or whatever

tribal wharf
#

i sort of like mechagnome, shame its too short for good transmog

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human really is the best option for transmog

toxic pewter
#

my new dk i made in remix is a mechagnome love that lil guy

lusty grotto
#

oh speaking of which

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let me see what they gave my bdk

merry sluice
#

I mean on dk if you wanna zoom overworld content

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you just go dps and horsie away
if u take dmg no you didnt

lusty grotto
#

i mean as per the remix to live conversion

merry sluice
#

not like overworld mobs do dmg anyways

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nah discord mobnile decided not to update shit and was showing the conversation about overworld speed

lusty grotto
#

o

merry sluice
#

love this app

chilly brook
#

servers up or?

lusty grotto
#

ye

chilly brook
tender cove
#

In my interface, i have an "icons" folder filled with tga files but they are all zero kb, must have been corrupted in the backup.
Any idea what addon/HD texture pack it can be?

lusty grotto
#

ok i guess ill kit it with event gear

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i c i c

chilly brook
#

do me a favor if you log into your dk

lusty grotto
chilly brook
#

see if you can catalyze the gear you start with

lusty grotto
#

ill check soon

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running an alliance raid alt tabbed lmao

toxic pewter
#

did they change the text font of the game.. seems diff all of a sudden to me

lusty grotto
#

its naowh ui

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so no its not changed, its just my ui

chilly brook
#

I'd look myself but need to get ahead on work first

toxic pewter
#

no i mean in my client its different

lusty grotto
#

ill get you in a sec, its labyrinth of the boredom

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just a fyi

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you can catalyst the event gear

chilly brook
#

if I can just catalyst this stuff that's far less effort for lfr appearance

lusty grotto
#

ill let you know in a few mins

tender cove
#

Anyone know how to restore the old icons without deleting entire ui?
All keybinds, placements etc worked to restore backup but not the icons. Everything is green, from spell book to talents to anything xD

lusty grotto
#

do you remember what you replaced?

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or the specific folder

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

turn off the game

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delete the entire icons folder

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boot up the game

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

if it doesnt work, turn off game then click this

tender cove
#

Is there anything fun todo or just wait 2 days for early access?

lusty grotto
#

scan and repair

tender cove
#

What. They have blocked wowhead for asien region. Noice 😦

#

ehm. How can i copy talent builds another way?

lusty grotto
#

icy veins?

tender cove
#

Its the same builds as stickied?

lusty grotto
#

no idea if mwahi has updated, worth a check

tribal wharf
#

wtf is a patron work order

lusty grotto
#

actually the offensive build is the same as the raid one thats stickied

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

the m+ is the same, just swap pain and gain with rumbling earth

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and heavy reper to ITF if your haste is over 5800

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

yeah theres an event

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

did they remove empower rune weap

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for bdk

plush tendon
#

is the prepatch still up?

plush tendon
lusty grotto
#

yes

plush tendon
#

only FDK has it

lusty grotto
#

what about this

plush tendon
#

blinding sleet is in the DK class tree

lusty grotto
#

idk why they fucked with my binds

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i see it

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alright i guess i need to buy this guy some event gear

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and then catalyze

merry sluice
#

yeah they am,de some pretty big class and spec changes for BDK

#

consumption is back and gives runes now whoo

lusty grotto
#

i have no idea what that is

plush tendon
#

more importantly it increases the rate at which dieases tick

lusty grotto
#

but horray

plush tendon
#

bonestorm costs 5 boneshield charges

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and reduces CD of DRW

proven stratus
merry sluice
#

and it gives 2 runes on use

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such a nice ability

plush tendon
#

that 25 second CDR on Dancing Rune Weapon

merry sluice
# lusty grotto but horray

also abom limb no longer inherently gives bones
you now get one bone whenever you would pull an enemy (so works on cc immune fuckers)

(including by grip)
so this encourages strafing when its up

lusty grotto
#

tank pvp groan

merry sluice
#

so u can stack boneshield

plush tendon
#

which is our big damage+defensive CD

grim pilot
#

Bonestorm is 10 charges

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Tombstone is 5

plush tendon
grim pilot
#

Is it

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Sucks

plush tendon
#

it was too powerful

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50 second CDR

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dummy strong

grim pilot
#

Yeah

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At the start of the pack

plush tendon
#

5 is much more fluid

grim pilot
#

I could just drw into drw

merry sluice
#

too much cdr, and the burst was DUMMY STUPID

5 is more down to earth
but tbh

grim pilot
#

Because of all the cdr

plush tendon
#

opener was cringe when it cost 10

grim pilot
#

Yeah

merry sluice
#

i didnt like the feeling of stacking upt o 10 before popping bonestorm

grim pilot
#

Dropping to 2 stacks

merry sluice
#

its 'weaker' but feels nicer

grim pilot
#

Or realistically to 1

proven stratus
lusty grotto
#

wat

merry sluice
#

er

plush tendon
#

?que?

proven stratus
merry sluice
#

q???

proven stratus
#

Battering Ram got unnerfed

lusty grotto
#

WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT PVP GO TO #pvp

proven stratus
lusty grotto
#

take your slow ass tank griefer shit out of here

proven stratus
#

slow

Little bro you know how much mobility we have as Prot War?

lusty grotto
#

i dont care

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tank pvp is fucking cringe and garbage

proven stratus
#

We ain't wheelchair DKs

lusty grotto
#

and this aint a pvp channel

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so stop it

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also thats not at all what i meant when i said slow

merry sluice
#

Who would ever play dk I mean HONESTLY

lusty grotto
#

its rated griefing

pallid quiver
#

i mean technically less so with the battleground blitz stuff you can do for rating next xpac, since if you queue as a tank, you will only play against other teams that have a tank

chilly brook
lusty grotto
#

good

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thats a good change Luerce

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so they dont fucking grief everybody

pallid quiver
#

Still does not solve that it should be a PvP chat discussion considering how far apart PvE and PvP are

pallid quiver
#

which are generally one of the few PvP focused entries where having a tank can actually be beneficial

lusty grotto
#

sure

#

at least Blizzard is thinking

tender cove
#

Nvm. My entire backup is corrupted. Some files are intact but most are just zero kb files. Well, at least new expo and chance to make a new UI 😦

strong forum
#

who needs backups

#

just have a permanently working UI

#

like mine

tender cove
#

I used yours for a while but honestly? Too much information, its overwhelming xD

brazen ridge
#

Hey, played first time in my life as a tank (current patch) as VDH and protpaladin. After seeing some videos on youtube mainly last Max about classes, I decided to play prot warrior. How's he right now on beta? Is he really that good? Is it hard class to play/master?

strong forum
#

pwar is the 2nd easiest tank to play

#

the talent tree plays the class for you

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but they overhyped pwar on the video

#

VDH and BDK do more damage if played correctly

lusty grotto
#

Armsowns lol

strong forum
#

aside from that pwar is pretty much the same as its been in dragonflight

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except that we did get a bit more aoe dmg

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rest is 100% same

brazen ridge
#

I was commited to BDK but was to scared about yoyo thing 2nd pick was VDH but didnt want to play it again

tender cove
#

I know its impossible to get an unbiased answer here or any tank channel. But what looks to be the most fun tank? Forget about world first raiding, where is the fun at?

strong forum
#

uuuhm

#

i heard brew is looking fun?

#

but i only play pwar as tank

toxic pewter
#

everyones version of fun is different like some people have fun with a tank that has a higher skill ceiling

strong forum
#

so cant say

brazen ridge
#

wanted to try prot war or guardian

lusty grotto
#

brew is fun yes

#

lots of buttons, but fun

tender cove
#

Im not saying warrior is boring, it could very well be the answer but I have no idea whatsoever. And just coming back for a new expo. How is warrior looking overall @strong forum

jagged pier
strong forum
#

guardian is easier if you play elunes chosen, but ALOT weaker

#

if you play druid of the claw its a bit harder to play

#

but will do better, especially dmg wise

strong forum
#

except with thane thunderclap actually does damage (in aoe)

#

instead of being a meme button

tardy burrow
#

PWar is fun imo. Going around charging and leaping into thems and yelling at them feels good. Besides that protpally for me because I just like AS and the dopamine rush of hitting everything with Divine Toll.

Also prot pally can carry a group if played well.

tender cove
strong forum
#

that aint gonna change with tww

#

if anything youll have even more CD bloat

#

i can give you short tldr

tardy burrow
#

I think all tanks but bear are fun to play.

strong forum
#

via a clip

lusty grotto
#

heres my fun ranking

strong forum
#

this explains why thane is good

tender cove
#

having to keep track of SC, TR, ravager with SB and defensives and keeping track of the fight and positioing and everythingh else just gets very hectic. Its a little bit if you pull it off? Its great but if you fail a little it becomes super stressful. Or is it more a skill issue?

strong forum
#

definitely a skill issue

#

but yeah

#

you need to have some comfortability with a spec

#

before you can "see"

#

whats going on etc

#

requires practice

brazen ridge
#

fine, I'll go for prot war this time πŸ˜„

tender cove
strong forum
#

dont let yourself get baited just by tierlists

jagged pier
#

especially the one u mentioned

#

you should just play what u find most fun

strong forum
#

dotc ranked C

brazen ridge
#

Do you mean Maxs?

lusty grotto
strong forum
tender cove
jagged pier
tender cove
#

I just saw something briefly on the patch notes.

strong forum
#

yeah like its just done for content

strong forum
#

not built on 100% accuracy

#

you should play something because it looks/seems fun to you

#

not because someone claims its good

jagged pier
#

^^

lusty grotto
#

hence "my fun ranking"

#

(:

jagged pier
#

because if u arent in the .01% of players it wont matter anyway

#

because every class can literally do everything

cerulean tusk
#

Your tierlists are bad - this one is correct:

strong forum
#

its true

jagged pier
#

if u arent pushing literally World highest keys by the end of the season

strong forum
#

look at my details

jagged pier
#

your spec does not matter

strong forum
jagged pier
#

oh mine says benched

cerulean tusk
#

Told ya, its true

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

you put yourelf there

lusty grotto
#

but no

tender cove
jagged pier
#

it dead

lusty grotto
#

no because of the order, the ranking names are spot on

strong forum
#

play colossus

#

then you got a good chunk of ceiling to go

cerulean tusk
#

play thane

#

have fun

strong forum
#

but colossus more dammies

jagged pier
#

i dont enjoy the TC playstyle

#

i never have

cerulean tusk
#

thane more effects

jagged pier
#

so thane just doesnt appeal to me at all

strong forum
#

ye i dont like that thane now just turbo promotes blindly clapping

cerulean tusk
#

Jakey, go play DH you broodin' doomer

jagged pier
#

i quit in bfa last season

#

the spec was fucking so boring

cerulean tusk
#

"urgh, I hate my life and tanking, urgh"
VDH

jagged pier
#

im not tanking if im playing

lusty grotto
#

we forgive you Jakey

cerulean tusk
#

Havoc then

jagged pier
#

im not a weeb

lusty grotto
#

LMAO

cerulean tusk
#

Weeb would be warrior tho

brazen ridge
#

screw the tier list πŸ˜„ I just go for thane, yeasterday finished exping my Mag'har Orc warior on MOP Remix

strong forum
#

fair enough

jagged pier
#

fair enough can respect that

plush tendon
#

Tier lists were made by mages and augs to keep the real classes down

cerulean tusk
#

True and real

#

Rise up!

jagged pier
#

id rather we always at the bottom of tier lists tbh

lusty grotto
#

i like a comfy mid

cerulean tusk
#

I have no clue why we were put on top this time around

jagged pier
#

because theyve re-discovered block uptime again

#

thats literally why

cerulean tusk
#

every start of a season

#

every single time

jagged pier
#

well it will be expansion

lusty grotto
#

psst its pump and dump funky

jagged pier
#

they didnt really care much after S1 in DF

lusty grotto
#

summon apb's conspiracy

jagged pier
#

but they did for S1

cerulean tusk
#

Apb and I hard disagree, warrior always meta pick before ppl get gear

tender cove
#

Another noob question if I may. I recently bought a k100 keyboard, for the G1-G6 buttons on the side. But they just mimic 1 to 6??
How do i make them unique button?

cerulean tusk
#

Sounds like a question for Dr Google

#

Bing AI is quite neato too, probs

jagged pier
#

probably download another program

#

to map them

#

i would guess

lusty grotto
#

also remember to download more ram

#

more is never enough

cerulean tusk
# tender cove Another noob question if I may. I recently bought a k100 keyboard, for the G1-G6...

||You can customize the G1-G6 buttons on your Corsair K100 keyboard using the iCUE software. Here’s a step-by-step guide to help you make them unique:

Install iCUE Software: If you haven’t already, download and install the Corsair iCUE software from the Corsair website.
Open iCUE: Launch the iCUE software and select your K100 keyboard from the home screen.
Create a New Profile: Click on the β€œ+” icon to create a new profile. This allows you to customize settings without affecting the default profile.
Select the G-Keys: Click on the β€œKey Assignments” tab. Then, click on the G-key (G1-G6) you want to customize.
Assign Actions: In the β€œActions” menu, you can assign various functions to the G-keys, such as:
Keystrokes: Assign a specific key or combination of keys.
Macros: Record a series of keystrokes and mouse clicks.
Shortcuts: Assign shortcuts to open applications or perform specific tasks.
Media Controls: Control media playback, volume, etc.
Save to Onboard Memory: After customizing the G-keys, save the profile to the keyboard’s onboard memory. This ensures the settings are retained even if iCUE is not running12.
By following these steps, you can make the G1-G6 buttons perform unique actions instead of just mimicking the 1-6 keys. If you encounter any issues, feel free to ask for more help!||

lusty grotto
#

hoooooly

jagged pier
cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
#

funky spamming prot

cerulean tusk
#

ya seen' nothin'

tender cove
cerulean tusk
#

peepostudy that is all AI, I wish you the best

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

ai

lusty grotto
#

Funky linking some maxroll guides in here or something

toxic pewter
#

abandon the twitcher elites

tender cove
#

wait, follower dungeons? Bot dungeon?

lusty grotto
#

excuse me, echo

#

excuse me echo maxroll guides

tender cove
#

Is it any good?

waxen frigate
#

@strong forum Certainly! Here's a playful and charming approach to get Nomeratur's attention:


You: Hey Nomeratur, I’ve been reading your guide, and I have to say, your knowledge is like a shield slamβ€”solid and always on point. 🌟 Do you take requests? Because I’d love a personal training session from the master protector himself. 😏


This message is friendly, compliments his expertise, and has a playful tone to it. If you want to tweak it or go in a different direction, let me know!

cerulean tusk
#

AI good, nothing wrong with using it as a tool >:(

strong forum
#

what in the fuck

lusty grotto
#

why you guys spamming us with echo maxroll guides

#

smh my head

cerulean tusk
strong forum
#

somebody ban this man

toxic pewter
#

LOL

lusty grotto
#

ngl but that was so good nish

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
#

yo nome, thats ez cash, just coach the bing AI

cerulean tusk
#

Aint wrong

strong forum
#

intercept dont exist no mo

lusty grotto
#

it does on SoD lollll (i think)

strong forum
#

apart from that, its generic enough to be correct

cerulean tusk
#

It was an example ability, smh

#

or you going to say it aint?

#

hms hms hms

#

toxic

#

This AI is on point

lusty grotto
#

well done AI

cerulean tusk
#

Aight

#

I am set

lusty grotto
#

maxroll guide on point

waxen frigate
#

**1. Gearing Up: In DOOM, you know that picking up the right weapons and armor is crucial. In Protection Warrior, your gear is just as important. You’re looking for heavy plate armor and a big ol’ shield. Strength and stamina are your bread and butter hereβ€”think of them like the health packs and ammo that keep you going. The better your gear, the more punishment you can take and dish out.

**2. Your Arsenal: Your main weapons are your abilities, and each one has a purpose, like the weapons in your DOOM arsenal:

  • Shield Slam: This is like your super shotgunβ€”a hard-hitting ability that uses your shield to slam the enemy. It’s got a short cooldown, so use it whenever it's up.
  • Revenge: Think of this as your rocket launcherβ€”a powerful AoE attack that hits multiple enemies. It’s great for clearing out crowds, just like when you're surrounded by demons.
  • Thunder Clap: This is your crowd control. It slows enemies down, just like hitting them with a well-placed frag grenade. Use it to keep mobs from overwhelming you.
  • Ignore Pain: Consider this your medkit. It absorbs damage, letting you stay in the fight longer. Activate it when you're about to take a big hit, just like grabbing a health pack when your health is low.

**3. Tanking: In DOOM, you’re always on the move, dodging attacks and dishing out damage. As a Protection Warrior, you’re still in the thick of it, but your job is to be the big, scary target that enemies focus on while your team deals the damage. You pull enemies towards you with abilities like Taunt (think of it like attracting aggro in DOOM) and keep them there with your high threat abilities.

**4. Positioning: Just like in DOOM, where you’re always trying to get the best angle on your enemies, in WoW you need to position yourself well. Face enemies so that your shield is up front, and keep them grouped up in front of you for maximum control and damage.

**5. Resource Management: Instead of ammo, you’re managing Rage. Abilities generate Rage, and you spend it on your heavy-hitters and defensive abilities. It’s like keeping an eye on your ammo countβ€”don’t run out of the good stuff when you need it most.

**6. Awareness: In DOOM, you’re always aware of your surroundings, right? Same here. Watch out for enemy abilities, keep an eye on your health and resources, and be ready to react. Situational awareness will keep you alive longer.


Think of playing a Protection Warrior like being the Doom Slayer, but instead of mowing down demons, you’re holding the line against hordes of enemies, protecting your team, and making sure you’re the last one standing. It’s all about timing, positioning, and knowing when to use your abilitiesβ€”just like in DOOM, but with a sword and shield instead of a BFG.

cerulean tusk
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Ok, so - here is my plan, I will have my Fury Warrior run in first - then I intercept the Fury Warrior for a good engage

lusty grotto
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LMAOOOOO

vivid orchid
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oh my

lusty grotto
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and now we wait

waxen frigate
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Speedrunning banned from every class discord any%

lusty grotto
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oh

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i didnt mean that lol

strong forum
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you're about to reach your monthly meme limit
AI posts are worth 100x the usual amount of meme

cerulean tusk
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How to Play:
Run to Bad Guys: Use Charge.
Hit and Clap: Use Shield Slam and Thunder Clap.
Stay Safe: Use Shield Block and Ignore Pain.
Use Super Powers: Use Last Stand and Shield Wall when you are about to get hurt.
Just keep hitting, blocking, and protecting your friends. You’re the hero!

it is getting there

strong forum
wooden radish
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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lincoln !

waxen frigate
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He can’t keep getting away with it

cerulean tusk
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gladge this not a troll post, it is a Yogi Prot Warr post, it is on theme and topic

lusty grotto
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you may need to meow louder lincoln

ionic fern
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What's up.

lusty grotto
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oh snap

waxen frigate
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Hi Mwahi

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Lincoln is brigading from another discord which is against the rules

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Please crush his skull

cerulean tusk
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Mwahi, any plans to throw us an AI bot, that can do a breakdown of chat of the day for us? peepostudy

Think of the potential!

wooden radish
lusty grotto
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hey hey hold on now, lincoln is an adorable cat that used to previously belong to mwahi

waxen frigate
cerulean tusk
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does it?

wooden radish
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Nimchip you die in world PvP. You’re not allowed to speak

waxen frigate
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It’s not like on-demand but yea

lusty grotto
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smh my head

cerulean tusk
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Tell me how, Nish, AI master

pallid quiver
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what the fuck is even going on in here today

cerulean tusk
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We are preparing our brains for delves

lusty grotto
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yes

pallid quiver
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y'all need to be fire hose'd

ionic fern
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You guys are planning to do delves?

lusty grotto
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my guild plans for me

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so i will get back to you on that

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after tonight's meeting

vivid orchid
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i want my airship

strong forum
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ill do delves

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cuz im a dwarf and im digging a hole

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diggy diggy hole

ionic fern
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That's respectable.

toxic pewter
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still cant believe they didnt give earthen an australian accent. one of the biggest fails in wow history

vivid orchid
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anyone even have concrete information about delve gear rewards anyway?

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aside from the +8 vaults that is

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
vivid orchid
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yea but i know about that

strong forum
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its basically solo m+

vivid orchid
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more like, what tiers give what, does season or non-season make any diff

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nothing about that was announced

lusty grotto
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wym tiers

toxic pewter
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max delve rewards give mid heroic raid level gear

vivid orchid
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yes, in the vault

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which i know about

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but aside from that

lusty grotto
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there are no tiers to delves lol

toxic pewter
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oh like the loot from the vendor?

vivid orchid
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like loot from end of delve

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since you can get some

toxic pewter
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dont think it drops loot at an end of delve..

vivid orchid
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the bountiful ones deifnitely do

strong forum
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all i know is

toxic pewter
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oh well prob like champion gear i guess

strong forum
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you should do delves while leveling

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up to level 3

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so you can instantly jump into level 4 delves at max level

vivid orchid
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only one example ive seen was a t3 bountiful was rewarding mid-adventurer

strong forum
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so you dont waste the XP from doing t1->t3 delves

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cuz campaign alone only brings you to 77.X

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so you do a bit of side stuff and delves

pallid quiver
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instructions unclear, mob grinded to level cap and now complaining on forums that i have to do USELESS t1-t3 delves

tender cove
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what is delves?

toxic pewter
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new solo content

vivid orchid
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basically torghast

pallid quiver
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New feature in TWW, new form of solo (or small group) content that's role agnostic

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You get an NPC companion, different for each season, and you go through scenario-like things

tender cove
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fun or chore?

pallid quiver
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S1 companion is Brann

vivid orchid
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id say more fun than chore

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there is gear to a point

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but it will quickly not be needed

pallid quiver
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There's also a point where gear rewards don't improve, but there's still more content you can try

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Hardest version of Delves is touted by the devs as being akin to the Mage Tower stuff in difficulty

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but we haven't seen any of those higher tier difficulty delves, so no one knows

vivid orchid
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there is also an 'aotc' for doing that

pallid quiver
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ur aotc

tender cove
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i see, how was leveling btw? Fast?

crimson furnace
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3h45m fast!!

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we are speed!

tender cove
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ohh, i get release 6am in my timezone, pretty sweet not having it 00.00 πŸ˜›

crimson furnace
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u rock, man

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enjoy

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its 1am on my end

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cringe

tender cove
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yeh, dont get many quality hours starting middle of the night 😦

toxic pewter
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im excited for delves tbh

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i think another end game pillar is a good idea

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and will only get better with time

strong forum
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apparently

daring grove
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We'll get 25% xp increase after 5 80s too

tender cove
pallid quiver
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also, for people cranking up alts, I think I saw an XP boost tied to characters hitting cap in the achievements when I was glancing at them yesterday

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though i think first char only gives 5%, was it?

daring grove
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5% per character x 5