There may be other abilities which are better to macro with sb 🤪
#protection
shy python
jagged pier
No literally none
Prot is not a spec u can just macro things together
Everything should have its own bind
shy python
Prot is not a spec u can just macro things together
Ohh that's absolutely not true
lusty grotto
that applies to other tank's active mit as well
jagged pier
As thats how the specs works you need to pick what you want at the correct time
shy python
Nah Im close to 50 I guess
shy python
But im Engineer and Nightelf
shy python
Much more to bind
shy python
Yeah well. Not arguing about keybinds 🙂
jagged pier
lusty grotto
you say night elf like other racials arent important
what is stoneskin even, isnt that a bind as well? spoiler: it is
also how much engi shit can you even use in keys
i mean i have a brez bracer bind
thats about it
shy python
Maybe you guys just have longer fingers than me so you can reach more keys?
lusty grotto
12345 qertfgcxz
shift, alt, ctrl + those
thats all i use
count the possible binds
shy python
But I guess you don't use asdwqe all just for moving.
jagged pier
You dont keyboard turn do you 
lusty grotto
12345 qertfgcxz = 13 binds
shift + all of those = +13 binds
alt + all of those = + 13 binds
ctrl + all of those = + 13 binds
a grand total of 52 binds
jagged pier
Unbind q and e and just add strafe to a and d
lusty grotto
yeah i strafe with A and D
shy python
You dont keyboard turn do you <:monkaHmm:512329409940815882>
Sometime it's great that I have the option.
jagged pier
12345 qertfgcxz = 13 binds
shift + all of those = +13 binds
alt + all of those =...
I dont use control or alt
jagged pier
Sometime it's great that I have the option.
When?
Literally never as the mouse does the same thing
Trust me i was the same
I used to use all of them
Took me a few weeks but it was fine after that now
lusty grotto
yeah i dont use a lot of them either, those are just the potential amount i could have
vivid orchid
Shitty vehicle UI.. idk I'm reaching
shy python
Literally never as the mouse does the same thing
But you cannot turn around with the mouse and click mobs at the same time.
jagged pier
U have tab
vivid orchid
I've got like 36 ish actual binds and nothing is compounded
jagged pier
Your literally talking to someone who used to play
shy python
U have tab
Very slow when facing 8+ mobs
vivid orchid
Tab works mostly well
shy python
Tab works mostly well
Mostly.
jagged pier
I mean yer turning will just cause mobs to hit you in the back so u strafe jump back or backpedal
Not turn
shy python
No I guess it's just an old habit I got used to.
jagged pier
Probably yes same as me. And yes its horrible to start with to change
But it will make you better
Remebr this discord is a place to come to mainly if you want to improve
Which is why we recommend logging content etc
And why there is pushback when ppl recommend the wrong thing to other ppl
As its a place to help make ppl better
Bottom line is we cant make you play anyway you dont want too. It up to you to choose. If you want to use tbe macros that fine. But recommending it will cause push back as its incorrect information.
Anyways i have to go wasted a lot of tine today
shy python
Alright.
lusty grotto
calls
jagged pier
<:bedge:882323848844963860> calls
Nah work been sat in the office and done nothing 
deft hinge
if i get this, can i use thumbstick to move in wow?
jagged pier
As you can play on controller i wouldnt see why not might need a addon or somthing tho
inner gulch
can anyone share a prot talent build for keys above 16 ? for prepatch ?
blazing condor
weak fox
if i get this, can i use thumbstick to move in wow?
I have it and the thumbstick is not like a controller, it's more like a d-pad, you can bind WASD to it but it's a bit clunky. You're better off using it as a modifier for your binds
also if you don't have big hands the space key is a bit hard to reach, and the wrist rest can only be set in 2 positions so you can't really adjust it that much
sick sentinel
Hey all, I've just started playing WoW a month or so ago. I've never tanked but I really wanted to level up a prot warrior for tww. Is it alright as a starting tank for someone completely new to the role? Am I going to have a hard time of it?
young root
You play whatever you want to play, if you have fun, keep doing it
sick sentinel
Phew, thanks! They weren't lying when they said the class discord was helpful and informative! Play... what I want... to play... Noted! Thanks again!
young root
Thats the spirit
pine storm
As someone who only tanks as an offspec, I'd say prot warr is pretty solid as a first time tank.
It's the classic sword and board, where most abillities makes sense. DK, DH and guardian druid is a bit more gimmicky and different, but also very fun (DH being my first pick of those 3)
waxen frigate
Phew, thanks! They weren't lying when they said the class discord was helpful an...
Pwarr is a rather easy first time tank and the most straightforward in terms of defensive profile
It’s very fast paced though
But not complex
sick sentinel
Thanks, that helps! The more straightforward the better, I'm handy with keybinds so hopefully high apm won't be a dealbreaker. Something else that's more general to tanking that worries me is dungeon routes, are people going to be chill at the start of a new xpac or am I supposed to look them up beforehand and commit routes to memory?
waxen frigate
They should be chill I’ve never had issues early in seasons
The returning dungeons I’d worry more about
But necrotic wake and mists are fairly straightforward at least
pine storm
Usually pretty chill at the start i'd say. Routes kinda evolve a bit at the start anyway before solidifying
waxen frigate
In terms of keybinds the only notable thing for pwarr is to make sure you bind ignore pain in a spot where you can comfortably hit it at the same time as other abilities
It is off the GCD and you use it a lot
sick sentinel
side button on mouse it is
waxen frigate
Even if you don’t “need” it you want to use it to spend rage and proc outburst
merry sluice
high apm ≠ complex bindings
I do feel prot warrior is on the slightly higher side in terms of total binds, but the rotation is incredibly simple.
it is not like brewmaster where your rotation is a bunch of different buttons
You are pressing many buttons frequently, but outside of cc/cds, the bulk of your rotation is
Shield slam, thunderclap, revenge to fish for resets, ip off gcd to dump rage, shield block to maintain your active mit and that's it
sick sentinel
Other thing sort of related, do we know if delves are tuned more towards damage or survivability? As in, do you think tanks will do particulary well in there?
sick sentinel
high apm ≠ complex bindings
I do feel prot warrior is on the slightly higher si...
Those don't seem like too many, sounds good
thanks for the writeup
waxen frigate
Other thing sort of related, do we know if delves are tuned more towards damage ...
I think depending on relative skill level delves will be very easy
fallow nova
I think delves are probably tuned a bit more around damage since they want folks to be able to do them on dps specs as well, but with pwar you can make a talent setup that's focused much more on damage and still crank pretty hard while maintaining a lot of your survivability.
sick sentinel
Nice! Thanks, that sounds great
sick sentinel
Can I safely remove whirlwind and slam from my hotbars?
violet ginkgo
Yes, we never have those 2 on our bar.
sick sentinel
Perfect thanks! Is there some realistic use case for heroic throw?
violet ginkgo
Eh occasional but not often
jagged pier
I use it all the time
blazing condor
it generates a high threat
violet ginkgo
I miss my Titanic Throw, Dog
sick sentinel
Alright, perfect, and what about charge? Is it just to get to a pack faster or does it serve another purpose too?
blazing condor
generates rage
violet ginkgo
charge is always have 100%
blazing condor
you use charge when you can as well
violet ginkgo
You Charge then Thunderclap, gaining aggro in a group
sick sentinel
As I get to level cap am I going to use Taunt any less or should I get used to it?
violet ginkgo
uh.... you speaking on M+ or Raid situation here?
sick sentinel
dungeons yeah
violet ginkgo
Because on raid you guarantee use it because there is tank swap mechanic on every raid.
M+ you occasionally use if there is 1 monster losing aggro, well hopefully you are not losing aggro but in case you lose then taunt it.
sick sentinel
Alright perfect, thanks. Is revenge just for procs?
as in, do I ever want to spend rage on it?
neat crow
as in, do I ever want to spend rage on it?
Simple usage is deep wounds on pull in cleave
Obviously prio shield block as ur first rage spend
Otherwise revenge is defo more a reset fish (especially for outburst)
When u get a free one it's OK but not high priority if u have globals to spend on something more useful
sick sentinel
Alright, thank you
Am I trying to keep shield block up constantly? Like with Ignore Pain?
blazing condor
you want to have shield block up everytime you take blockable damage
shield block is our main mitigation
you dump rage into IP as part of the rotation but you dont focus on "keeping it up"
dusky canopy
neat crow
Am I trying to keep shield block up constantly? Like with Ignore Pain?
Pmuch aim for as much uptime as possible which probably means taking heavy repercussions if ur not at 5400 haste
And remember shield charge gives shield block too so take that into account when managing uptime
Otherwise u need to keep enough rage around for when shield block is about to drop which is something u plan in advance for
It's also why the rule with IP is to only really use it above 60 rage so u don't overcap
IP isn't gonna really "save" u like SB can or any of our defensive cds
violet ginkgo
wooohooo today is my month, they give the seaborn and fireborn blade at monthly trading post, insta buy those.
ionic fern
Picture.
toxic pewter
wooohooo today is my month, they give the seaborn and fireborn blade at monthly ...
i am also considering buying them..
this one of the fireborn ones
ionic fern
Oo,looks nice.
cunning sluice
Are those upscaled versions of quel'serrar ? 😮 They looks really crisp 😄
harsh trellis
and the gold ones
violet ginkgo
Are those upscaled versions of quel'serrar ? 😮 They looks really crisp 😄
Yes modern Quel. If you seek the carbon copy the radiant seablade giving a green glow
restive cypress
the gold ones were noice but that price... damn
violet ginkgo
now I am a flaming red dragon prot war.
jagged pier
blue one too
violet ginkgo
theres already 2 in the game befroe this one
The 2 you mean the package skyborn and radiant skyborn or there is 1 more before the skyborn?
wicked basin
This is my first time playing a warrior so that’s why I was asking rotation everything else cause I was trying to get my action bar set up. I think I’m just gonna have to clear my action bars completely out and then redo it.
jagged pier
a different blue one
wicked basin
Because the way everything is is done on wow had even that confused the hell out of me
violet ginkgo
oh that white one I might miss it.
violet ginkgo
Yeah I got the sky and radiant sky, but I don't have the white-gold one.
wicked basin
And on top of that, for some reason, Hekili has use bag of tricks
violet ginkgo
Now to go buy the ones from traders post
what is the name of the white-gold one? earthborn?
cunning sluice
Wow those new models on it 😮
harsh trellis
Whispering Temple Blade and Gleaming Whispering Temple Blade.
toxic pewter
def gonna need to pick them up
cunning sluice
The gold white one looks so legit 😄
harsh trellis
Thats my paladins sword
violet ginkgo
Ahh whispering temple, OK I'll keep track for that in future in case appear again. Thx Nav. Who knows someday it might match certain aesthetic. For now Though I'll use the fireborn because it match the artifact shield.
cunning sluice
@violet ginkgo What weapon echant is that ? ? 😮
violet ginkgo
Oh it's Illusion:Primal Fire.
cunning sluice
I was about to say - Did they update fiery weapon too lol
violet ginkgo
Hahaha no, that was the Radiant Fireborn then I give it Illusion: Primal Fire.
toxic pewter
oh wow the new quel serrar blades sheathe on the back O_O
that badass
at least I think it does? my ui acting weird
jagged pier
gold one doesnt im pretty sure
toxic pewter
yeah clipping always sucks ass but i am a back sheathe enjoyer so will overlook the clipping
cunning sluice
Out of curosity is there a spear like 1-h weapon we can mog ? I always thought the idea of a spartan like mog would be fun for prot warrior :p
toxic pewter
that is something we have been wanting for a long while.. I am not aware of any
urban bane
there are a few gladius/xiphos-like swords but unfortunately no 1h spears. though there are some npcs with that drip!
maybe one day :)
violet ginkgo
they look good apart from the usual clipping stuff which happens
not as bad when you clip that sword to shield for orc prot war 
keen leaf
its a good mog, but the best 1h back sheathe weapons are just the prot warrior artifact
toxic pewter
the prot warr artifact swords kinda ugly imo
keen leaf
gasp
violet ginkgo
I mean apb is right... the default artifact sword and the other are really bad. The shield xmog hidden artifact though is really nice.
toxic pewter
yeah the hidden shiel only good shield lol
and the recolors
obviously the mage tower flail and shield are bis.. but we cannot all be so lucky 
toxic pewter
that a bad ass sword O_O
tribal wharf
ill give it a minute to click in
violet ginkgo
just wish was easier to pair with stuff
I don't get the purple or green, not a fan but I did get the blue one to paired it with skyborn (before today's seaborn and fireborn appear)
waxen frigate
obviously the mage tower flail and shield are bis.. but we cannot all be so luck...
Dude I want the gnoll flail but no clue how to get it
Maybe I try to get it before TWW
toxic pewter
oh ya u def need the poor mans flail
I use that one here and there lmao
its from azure span.. gnoll rare mob iirc
toxic pewter
honestly they need a dude to just churn out shields
like all they do is make cool shields
cuz we need some new and cool shields
waxen frigate
cuz we need some new and cool shields
We need more simple shields 🙂
tribal wharf
sure, but also tower shield when
doesnt HAVE to have extra stats,
like, i've been over what a tower shield is in this channel 100 times wont do it again
violet ginkgo
chainsaw shield when
You like chainsaw? You gonna like Charge Blade Deviljho from Monster Hunter series then
waxen frigate
Like a pavise?
tribal wharf
pretty much
they do look a bit dorky, but, i dunno sort of cool as well
spell breaker type ones too, im not a shield expert irl
violet ginkgo
pretty much
jagged pier
violet ginkgo
Yoo jakey also insta bought the fire I think? that is nice
echo egret
Where do these wings come from ?
idle needle
doomguy sword 😩
keen leaf
Where do these wings come from ?
its a toy u can get in remix
idle needle
Where do these wings come from ?
toy from mop remix that periodically gives you the wing effect from the legendary cloaks
you get the toy from an achieve to get 2400 total threads
its basically free if you just level a character
echo egret
Ah, I may have it then
keen leaf
technically there's 4 of them, 1 for each cloak effect
jagged pier
u can force the proc if u want
it will give u the proc everytime u use the toy
so u can macro it to something
echo egret
Haha
jagged pier
but now i have wings for every tmog
echo egret
I’ll put it in my SS/SB macro (joking)
jagged pier
toxic pewter
<a:nodders:1203465365091389460>
so pissed i didnt get that helm
jagged pier
u buy it?
violet ginkgo
I actually need a shoulder piece recommendation for pairing with the our current tier set appearance.
jagged pier
blue wouldnt go with my tmog
i do have the blue
but i dont have a good tmog for it
violet ginkgo
but i dont have a good tmog for it
#protection message
Can you recommend a few shoulder piece for this mog set? I mean the tier set appearance is not that bad but I am seeking better mog.
violet ginkgo
hmmm what is the name of that piece? so I can wowhead it
jagged pier
well the black one u cant get
that was trading post
the other is remix
problem is your running a full set
so just changing the shoulders is gunna look jank
violet ginkgo
Ahh remix... I haven't really touch it.
radiant mortar
<a:nodders:1203465365091389460>
what toy is that?
jagged pier
radiant mortar
are they expensive I think I have 5k bronze
jagged pier
u dont buy them
radiant mortar
ah rip
jagged pier
u get them from an achieve
i think
from this
takes like 2 mins
espcially now
with the buffs
toxic pewter
toys are so great just wish other people could see them
jagged pier
i think ppl are over estiamting how many ppl have them
toxic pewter
I dunno for a fact to be fair and dont really know anyone to test with
pallid quiver
I believe they can't see the wings on the original cloaks, but I would wager they can see the toy ones
So if you're getting the effect from transmig, just you
radiant mortar
takes like 2 mins
for real, Im lvl 22
jagged pier
I believe they can't see the wings on the original cloaks, but I would wager the...
there are no wings on the original cloaks anymore
knotty mantle
Where do you guys keybind shield block IP thunderclap and shield slam? I feel like these buttons burn my fingers out every time I chain spam keys. Not sure if my keybinds are just not optimal.
toxic pewter
they are some of our most pressed buttons
idle quartz
Where do you guys keybind shield block IP thunderclap and shield slam? I feel li...
All of my defensives are on some variation of ‘M3’
toxic pewter
for me, I use shield block- Q, IP-2, Thunderclap-4, shield slam- E
keybinds are very personal to each person
jagged pier
TC 2
SS 4
IP G
SB F
idle quartz
Shield block is M3, IP is MWheel up and Down. Shield Slam is set to 1, TC 2, Revenge 3
austere oar
there are no wings on the original cloaks anymore
Other ppl can't see the wings from the toy
fallow nova
For me shield block or F, ignore pain is shift+F.
SS is 1 on my mouse, TC is 5 (which is only one position away diagonally)
jagged pier
your poor fingers
knotty mantle
Oh wow those are some interesting binds
knotty mantle
for me, I use shield block- Q, IP-2, Thunderclap-4, shield slam- E
keybinds are...
The Q E binds are pretty nice, i dig it
knotty mantle
Shield block is M3, IP is MWheel up and Down. Shield Slam is set to 1, TC 2, Rev...
I suppose that's a way to get around the finger fatigue lmao, just move over everything to the mouse
toxic pewter
The Q E binds are pretty nice, i dig it
Yeah Q and E are some of my favorite keybinds
and make A and D strafe left and right
jagged pier
q is for SC or devastate if we ever have to press it again
cant remeber my e but it is something
oh yer trinket but q and e were late binds i unlocked for myself
as ive said my keybinds are cursed
fallow nova
your poor fingers
It works for me. Mouse hand handles most rotational abilities, keyboard hand deals with movement, defenses and CDs.
I've got mouse keys 1-6 bound with ctrl and alt modifiers, then Q,E,R,F and 1-4 bound with Shift and Alt modifiers
idle quartz
I suppose that's a way to get around the finger fatigue lmao, just move over eve...
It’s super intuitive.
I have Shield Wall > Shift + M3, Spell Reflect is Alt + M3, and Spell Block is Ctrl + M3.
lusty grotto
keybinds are very personal
so what is super intuitive for you, may not be for them
i def dont like wall to be on a modifier bind, or spell block, i use them often enough
but again, thats entirely personal
vivid orchid
mine look like a psychopath did them until you have context over my hardware
lusty grotto
yea
south zealot
on use being shift 4 and e is so funny to me
lusty grotto
i use ctrl+3 and ctrl+c for my trinkets so lol
south zealot
i replaced zerker rage with shattering throw/wrecking throw
lusty grotto
well we do now
vivid orchid
its back tho?
lusty grotto
yeah zerkie rage is back in prepatch
vivid orchid
mists in 4 weeks yep
tribal wharf
i'm playing quake 1 and i got 14 total keybinds, 9 for weapons, 4 for movement 1 for jump, dont even gotta touch a button to open door, just walk up to it
can condense weapons to a weel with Q
lusty grotto
but where am i gunna use it?
yeah true, but yesterday i did memory ony and i instinctively went for my brage keybind without any thought and i had a small brain fart because it worked until i remembered it was re-added
which is weird because after a whole expansion of running from fears, it just came back to me
though im sure i did try to ham it down on a fear or two during the exp, like rezan
unreal gull
got any suggested talents after buffs for beta?
lusty grotto
i just realized
every time i log in to do the dumb fucking event
it auto swaps to defensive stance
Hmm...
strong forum
yeah
it defaults prot into defensive stance instead of "no stance"
arms into bstance
very kringe
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
its because most prot warrior players dont even realize they are not in any stance
or they never swap out of d stance literally ever
lusty grotto
yeah the reasoning isnt lost on us
oh shit
the event changes are in
ive done 3 ragnaroses so far lmao
coral kayak
ive done 3 ragnaroses so far lmao
Did they change the spawn time 1:30 hour ?
lusty grotto
no
you just keep doing events and spawn the boss for the entire period
then it moves to the next zone
coral kayak
Ahh ok
toxic pewter
is champions spear dot considered a bleed
fallow nova
I think it's an aoe pulse, not a bleed
rough wyvern
Have you guys noticed any threat issues here in the prepatch? Maybe it's cuz I'm playing with a pretty sick frost DK or maybe I'm just bad, but it feels like I lose aggro from at least a couple of mobs every single pull when he pops CDs, even like 30 seconds into the pull...
south zealot
yes agro is harder than it was in s4
spark verge
Its horrible
rough wyvern
Okay so it's not just me 😅
jade tartan
Guys, do we already know if Timerunners come out of Remix with a certain given catch up gear?
remote tusk
It was said in the first post
pine storm
I have seen a few people say that, but I've never actually seen it in any official post 🤔
Both the "Under development wow remix..." post and the follow-up with additional info about gems and content on the official forums back in early april says nothing about it.
remote tusk
It says something along the lines of "equivalent of a boosted character".
austere oar
Have you guys noticed any threat issues here in the prepatch? Maybe it's cuz I'm...
Most DPS since the rework have much beefier burst, even 30 seconds in most classes can generate massive amounts of threat in a burst period
But with proper rotation management and priority, you should be able to hold, it's harder now yes, but it shouldn't happen
tribal wharf
me with d-stance anytime i log in
"a warrior with a shield in defensive stance" air generated
you know, fuck............... thats not so bad...........
tribal wharf
that is an armored warrior with a shield in a defensive stance
is that a fucking dagger? or a pole-arm
bit long for a dagger, probably short sword at best
cerulean tusk
That is an inverted spear, that is somehow twisting reality to disappear into his back, while being in front
tribal wharf
way im viewing this image is he has a large stick with a blade on the end, and hes holding it behind his back
i wager it would be visible above his left shoulder if it was a polearm
cerulean tusk
Your suspension of disbelief is strong, I am envious
tribal wharf
where the wooden handle is, clearly to me at least behind the scroll thingy on his belt
cerulean tusk
AI clearly doesn't understand space or form, it just tries and clips things together
tribal wharf
and looks to be behind him if you would ask me
he's got weird fingers but thats par
cerulean tusk
Give it 5 more years, and I am sure it will do better
tribal wharf
i dunno, that seems okay to me
i've also seen it whre its like, there is an adobe version of AI, and you can magic lasso create a cut out of a kite, and tell it to replace it with a plane
and it doesnt like screw with the entire rest of the image so then you just like, select your arms arn tell it to make you look more muscly for your dating profile or somethin
cerulean tusk
That example makes me sad. It's the same as ppl using year old pics
Don't do that Yogi
tribal wharf
but you gotta pay for that adobe one, out the ass pay is what i heard
like, 100 bucks a month or more basically
cerulean tusk
Computing isn't free, so makes sense. Got to wait for AI models to go pure local
tribal wharf
we've all seen the wc3 ai video im pretty sure right
where they gave it 30 seconds of game footage with no context
and it spewed out total garbage
like, 30 seconds 15 times
and it just, blanket applies ai to EVERYTHING it can touch, with no gaurds or anything
and so, because its just blanket applied to the entire scene, with little to no guidance, you get this
rough wyvern
But with proper rotation management and priority, you should be able to hold, it...
That's the thing tho. I'm not sure how much more "proper rotation management" i can do. I did a +18 BH last night and as the Oaks were spawning the small lashers, my first 2 globals were Thunderous Roar and Thunder Clap, followed by clap every 2nd global and he still pulled aggro almost right away. How much more can I be expected to do? 🤔
Also, are the threat issues only with prot warr or do other tank specs experience the same? Haven't played any other tank since pre patch dropped..
cunning sluice
@rough wyvern Frost DKs esp. Their tierset combined with new talents + Pillar being a 45 second cooldown, and they can extend its duration another 6-8 seconds ontop of what it currently is. They can basically burst almost every pack, or every pack and a half for the entire dungeon on demand. I have yet to find a tank that can keep aggro off my Frost DK even if I give them a 4 GCD headstart >.<
But I also feel like its in part to people feeling as if they need to play more defensively, and are contribution a lot more of their rotations to defense priority instead of damage if that makes sense ?
rough wyvern
Ye it does. I am very defensive player myself and have been wondering if I should focus more on damage.
Well thanks for the input, I suppose it's "only" prepatch and nothing really matters anyway :p
cunning sluice
Maybe - Tanks ar e getting a damage buffs currently on PTR. Warrior got a whopping 30% overall, and a few other abilities tuned up too. I'm guessing they are having threat issues on beta, and need the damage increases to help maintain threat 😮
lusty grotto
nah
threat wasnt an issue in beta
it is in live, but its expected due to all the jankiness
jagged pier
Threat what are we playing classic?
cunning sluice
I haven't played beta currently, so I'm just making educated guess 🙂
lusty grotto
🤷
cunning sluice
it is in live, but its expected due to all the jankiness
Agreed - the jankiness is real. I still think some talents aren't functioning properly for a lot of classes >.<
lusty grotto
if you lose agro at the start, its expected
worry when you lose agro mid-pull
if it happens
i have no idea i havent done a fucking key in well within a month
rough wyvern
That's why im writing. I AM worrying 😅
lusty grotto
you lose agro mid pull?
rough wyvern
Yup
keen leaf
press buttons D:
lusty grotto
uh....
cunning sluice
Maybe to much ignore pain, and need to fill in with more revenges ? 😮
lusty grotto
do you have logs?
cunning sluice
^
rough wyvern
Ehm, probably not uploaded. At work atm...
I'll upload and check in later I guess
I just feel like if I press TC every second global I shouldn't be losing threat mid pull
keen leaf
are u low ilvl playing with like a 530 fury warrior?
lusty grotto
he said hes doing 18s
tribal wharf
i make it to or past the damn level and then it all goes to shit
lusty grotto
i hope hes not low ilvl
keen leaf
oh i missed that
rough wyvern
I mean, I'm a little low. I'm 522 (with s3 stonescale) playing with a 529 frost dk
tribal wharf
i dont think i'll ever finish it
lusty grotto
...
brother
did that not cross your mind?
a whole 7 ilvl difference?
what about your gholak?
rough wyvern
I'm just saying this wasn't a problem late S3 but it's a problem in prepatch
keen leaf
that's not low enough to lose threat imo
lusty grotto
is it 12/12?
rough wyvern
Ye
lusty grotto
not low enough to lose threat mid pull no
keen leaf
although a frost DK does pump threat, so it could just be him, tell ur boy to slow down for a global or two
cunning sluice
^
rough wyvern
I wish I had recorded gameplay from yesterday to show you :/
keen leaf
that sounds like ur just not hitting the mobs honestly
lusty grotto
id rather you had logs
rough wyvern
that sounds like ur just not hitting the mobs honestly
Yes, exactly. That's how it sounds.
But it's not how it is :p
lusty grotto
videos are harder to decypher considering everyone's ui is different
logs are standard
rough wyvern
Oh shit I found the log
tribal wharf
yes
rough wyvern
Not saying I'm pressing every button right or anything. Obviously I make mistakes all the time. I'm just saying that threat feels much harder in prepatch than it has the entire expansion.
austere oar
Imagine doing 200k DPS passively just by meleeing stuff
rough wyvern
Also I was playing heavy repercussions this key, might be a thing...
lusty grotto
yeah well, like choco said
its expected
every pre-patch something like this happens
keen leaf
prepatch is weird, and gonna stay that way
lusty grotto
to be fair
rough wyvern
Imagine doing 200k DPS passively just by meleeing stuff
Yeah it's ridiculous xD
rough wyvern
I think this was the 4th key we did in a row, he had gotten used to getting aggro and pressing defensives
but he did get aggro a lot
tribal wharf
dk standin in cleave is dk problem
austere oar
There's the ilvl diff and frost DK is something else rn
tribal wharf
100%
austere oar
And prepatch
cunning sluice
100% ^
lusty grotto
at this point 7 ilvls is pretty fucking huge
rough wyvern
I guess so..
tribal wharf
doesnt matter if i move the boss out of the fire, if you stand in the fire, you die
very simple stuff
rough wyvern
Gotta get my shit together and farm them crests I guess..
austere oar
Stuff happens in a key
rough wyvern
Well everyone makes mistakes. That's not what we're talking about right now :p
keen leaf
I think 1 cleave a dungeon is acceptable gameplay lol
lusty grotto
yeah
tribal wharf
i dunno i just ramble on cuz, wow isnt too exciting to me
thats why i quit 6 months ago
lusty grotto
ok yogi, we're talking about something i know you like to butt in with tangents, but
lusty grotto
can you zip it for a bit
tribal wharf
i might come back try TWW, seew if i want to stop for a long while then
11.0 waiting room
were since 10.2
lusty grotto
Gotta get my shit together and farm them crests I guess..
at this point why bother
rough wyvern
Truuu
lusty grotto
id say you did fine
rough wyvern
❤️
austere oar
Timing 18s on prot w is already a big accomplishment
lusty grotto
like im seeing
austere oar
You're way ahead the vast majority of the playerbase
rough wyvern
I was really just wondering if anyone else has experienced threat issues since pre patch or if it was something I could do anything about :p
lusty grotto
nothing too alarming as mid pull pulling
i dont think you can
its kind of out of our control
lashers specifically was always an issue
due to TC being SL capped
tribal wharf
but ya, just cuz i dont actively play doesnt mean i don't know shit lol
cunning sluice
I was really just wondering if anyone else has experienced threat issues since p...
I'm swapping from DPS to tank, and decided to play warrior for TWW. I wish I was doing 18s on mine atm. It sounds like you are crushing it. I hope I can get as good as you 😄
rough wyvern
I'm swapping from DPS to tank, and decided to play warrior for TWW. I wish I was...
Hahah, thanks buddy :p
cunning sluice
Super excited to play Mountain Thane though
keen leaf
MT looks so cool, lightning all day erryday
tribal wharf
hopefully that stuff is well recieved
cunning sluice
I know ! I thought about rerolling dwarf for a mog etc as well just to go full WC3
keen leaf
Im going earthen
tribal wharf
i like how in wc3, lvl3 storm bolt does like a bazillion dmg
on top of 4s stun
it used to do like uhhhh at lest 350
where you'd cap at like, 1500 hp lvl 10 hero
cunning sluice
i like how in wc3, lvl3 storm bolt does like a bazillion dmg
Right lmao
keen leaf
Storm bolt would be a cool rotation ability, I wish it wasnt just a stun
tribal wharf
and then in wow, its a turbo long cd, and does fuck all dmg and the 4s stun
cunning sluice
100% like a wide arc cleave that sends out thunder hammers. That might be too paladin though.
tribal wharf
l ike, different game i suppose, just, i dunno man, the game today lacks grit and edge and violence, fear intidimation kings and queens being killed, something i can tangibly fear
dark souls is the best way i can put it
blehh
keen leaf
anyone know which folder I can safely clear, I cant ever remember if its cache or WTF
Im keep getting random DCs, gonna see if that helps
lusty grotto
have you tried the repair thing?
keen leaf
no I havent, thats in the battlenet thing right?
lusty grotto
im not sure it itll help, i havent had any issues yet, but i had a friend that was having memory crashes last night
keen leaf
thanks, ill try that first. Im getting like 2 DCs a dungeon, and my internet is solid the whole time
lusty grotto
but worth a try
tough patio
I asked GPT4 to convert warrior abilities into brew abilities
Here’s what I got
-
Shield Slam -> Keg Smash:
- Original: Slam the target with your shield, causing damage and generating rage.
- Adaptation: Smash a keg onto the enemy, splashing them with brew that damages and dazes, generating Chi.
-
Thunder Clap -> Firework Burst:
- Original: Blasts all enemies within range with thunder, slowing them and causing damage.
- Adaptation: Set off a burst of fireworks that damage all nearby enemies and impair their movement, reflecting the chaotic energy of a festival.
-
Revenge -> Drunken Reprisal:
- Original: Strikes all enemies in front of the warrior, causing damage and generating rage.
- Adaptation: Spin in a tipsy fury, striking all nearby enemies with a flurry of palm strikes and kicks, fueled by chi.
-
Devastate -> Spirited Jab:
- Original: A direct strike that causes damage and can reset the cooldown of Shield Slam.
- Adaptation: A precise, chi-empowered jab that damages and has a chance to refresh Keg Smash.
-
Shield Block -> Misty Guard:
- Original: Raise your shield, reducing the damage of incoming attacks for a few seconds.
- Adaptation: Envelop yourself in a mist that reduces incoming damage, using brew vapors to absorb and deflect attacks.
-
Ignore Pain -> Brewer’s Endurance:
- Original: Fight through the pain, reducing damage taken.
- Adaptation: Chug a resilience brew, reducing damage taken by converting physical pain into a numbing haze.
-
Last Stand -> Last Call:
- Original: Temporarily increase maximum health for a short duration, enabling survival through extreme damage.
- Adaptation: Invoke the spirit of the last call at the tavern, significantly increasing health temporarily through mystical fortification.
-
Demoralizing Shout -> Intoxicating Bellow:
- Original: Shouts at enemies, reducing the damage they do to you.
- Adaptation: Release a potent shout laced with brew fumes, confusing enemies and reducing the damage they inflict.
-
Spell Reflection -> Jade Mirror Technique:
- Original: Reflects a spell back at the caster.
- Adaptation: Use a mystical jade mirror to reflect a spell, turning an enemy's magic against them.
These adaptations preserve the functional intent of the abilities while reimagining them in a way that fits the thematic and aesthetic feel of a Brewmaster Monk, focusing on agility, mystical brews, and drunken brawler tactics.
tough patio
We need this
lusty grotto
chat gpt only takes web data
it has no access to discord's api
so any ideas that has been mentioned here will not be considered at all, and this discord has existed since late MoP
so its mostly useless boomer data
largely out of touch
but if its for something like what you posted, for fun, then it works i guess? still not to be taken seriously
also brewstorm doesnt sound good, thats a waste of alcohol
😎
should be renamed party-foul-storm
plush tendon
brewmaster monks should have to place a puddle of beer at a target location
and be forced to stand in it
lusty grotto
that sounds good
all while chugging it down like a true alcoholic
from the floor
plush tendon
it would be funny if brewmaster monks had to manage their drunkiness
and have to deal with the alcohol mechanic in combat XD
jagged pier
BM shouldnt have RSK
lusty grotto
ogcd water/cocaine you mean?
😎
will occasionally piss it all away, and sometimes purge it
stunned for 3 minutes while purging
limpid ruin
it would be funny if brewmaster monks had to manage their drunkiness
I think DKs should have a 50% movement slow if they aren’t in death and decay 
grizzled orbit
You guys level as prot? 😄
lusty grotto
for what?
ive leveled as prot since cata
but ive been playing since forever so, probably not relatable
if youre asking about leveling from scratch, for example
i doubt its an issue
austere oar
Probably TWW levelling
grizzled orbit
Nah im making a new warrior, havnt play since 3 xpansion back
lusty grotto
well yeah i mean, expansion leveling is easy as a prot
austere oar
I'd say overall it's same shit, you lose time on ST but the massive pulls let you catch up
lusty grotto
shouldnt be much of an issue if its a new warrior
plush tendon
I like leveling as fury or arms
plush tendon
cause Ill be playing prot for basically all of end game
plush tendon
might as well enjoy some time as a DPS ya feel
keen leaf
I level with a credit card
grizzled orbit
How are prot doing in tww then?
plush tendon
How are prot doing in tww then?
Ill let you know in 3 weeks
plush tendon
Warrior also has a sick set this coming tier; so might as well play it to get that siq tmog
idc what anyone says
I like it
lusty grotto
tuning is still on-going
plush tendon
lusty grotto
but dps is pretty even right now
in beta
as far as tanks go
level it now, see how it goes, and thats what youll get in TWW
plush tendon
tank balance seems fairly good right now
lusty grotto
tank balance has been good all exp
plush tendon
if you are worried about mythic raid prog, someone in your guild will need a BDK ready for something
lusty grotto
outliers are due to comp synergy, thats it
grizzled orbit
I always been playing prot warr since vanilia. Heard prot was very bad this xpansion and Vengence was blooming hard 😄
plush tendon
VDH is back in line with everyone else; double sigil has been killed off
plush tendon
lusty grotto
the whole double sigil wasnt the issue convo again
plush tendon
bruh, double sigil was silly
grizzled orbit
Im just grinding some levels now, doing some old content for achivements and learning the prot rotation until TWW comes, should be fine i guess 😄
lusty grotto
its not just gone, tier is gone
grizzled orbit
If not i go arms and shine in pvp 😄
lusty grotto
which was part of the problem
but VDH is very likely to still be meta
EVEN WITHOUT THOSE THINGS
so it wasnt illuminated sigils at all
lusty grotto
and tier being gone doesnt matter if they are the top end damage tank in beta right now
plush tendon
especially if you end up playing mage, aug, lock/priest or something
plush tendon
and tier being gone doesnt matter if they are the top end damage tank in beta ri...
I honestly dont know the numbies
lusty grotto
well i do
violet ginkgo
and tier being gone doesnt matter if they are the top end damage tank in beta ri...
at least thank god we got a good buff because of that.
lusty grotto
or we do, in #1230008411333066913
if damage is evened out, they will still be a huge meta contender
due to wizard fucking meta
so please no "double sigils are silly", which is fucking bullshit
plush tendon
I stand by my statement that double sigil is silly
and I can also agree other things contributed to their dominance
both can be true
violet ginkgo
well I mean it is silly, if it is not silly then it wouldn't be nerfed. Anyway let's go to prot beta, Nome just cook something on the sim.
lusty grotto
at least thank god we got a good buff because of that.
thats after the tank dps buffs
including ours
violet ginkgo
where are we after buff? still at bottom? or at least go to middle pack?
tribal wharf
Here’s what I got
TECHNICALLY its not wrong in what it did
but i understand what you were probably attempting to d
i do fucking love that last stand is now last call
that would be a great deathsave or DR for brew talent name
whenever you use whatever the fuck that 7 minute cd shit is, ........ it does ...... whatever.....
..
gpt wants DI baack
i created one for pwar into ppal
devout star
how is prot looking compared to other tanks in ww, im looking to main something meta and i am just seeing so many different tier lists and opinions could use some input from yall
cerulean tusk
It will be decent, what tank you bring is more decided by your overall raid comp
round pendant
holy moly revenge 25% buff and it's still not gonna be enough to make it feel good to press
lusty grotto
how is prot looking compared to other tanks in ww, im looking to main something ...
there wont be a meta until the comp is decided
so any tank you roll, at this exact point is on equal standings
comp decideds the tank
not the other way around
either way all tanks are capable and there isnt a clear outlier especially after this week's buffs
austere oar
You bring a tank for the kit they bring to your raid, not because of their personal performance
Any of the tanks can perform at a RWF level
plush tendon
or you bring it for a raid buff you dont want to bring from a dps slot
austere oar
Yeah
Pretty much why guilds will prob run a DK or two and a druid
It's gonna depend on the state of the other specs
fallow nova
You bring a tank for the level of nasty jokes they're capable of cracking whole successfully navigating a boss fight.
granite dagger
guys I need you HUGE help, If I want to tank, where do I start ? Last time I tanked was in wotlk, but I came back only in Shadowlands and been playing fury ever since
is wowhead the no1 place to go ?
lusty grotto
yea
wowhead or icyveins are written by our mods
so you can go over those and if you have any questions about anything there you can ask here
granite dagger
and after I've red both articles ( or guides ) should I start practicing ? I was thinking to practice on HC dungeons since I can do it with followers
granite dagger
kewlio, thank you very much !
chilly brook
and after I've red both articles ( or guides ) should I start practicing ? I was...
just throw yourself in there, there is no replacement for just doing it and you're never going to get over the "tanxiety" if you don't just rip the bandaid off. It's genuinely not nearly as bad as you might think it is.
granite dagger
just throw yourself in there, there is no replacement for just doing it and you'...
Thank you for the encouragement ! o7
blazing condor
as with any form of anxiety you just gotta expose yourself to it
sit in how uncomfortable it is
until it isnt
sick sentinel
Anxiety is a trick of the mind, you feed it by calling it anxiety, same with depression/sadness, further you dig the hole deeper it becomes but if you carry on being "normal" then the hole will fill. Strengthen your mind and strong one will become
urban bane
Warmed my heart to see all the encouragement and sage advice. 
round pendant
Warmed my heart to see all the encouragement and sage advice. <:gladge:963970137...
the sage advice I got was "go to therapy"
lusty grotto
urban bane
the sage advice I got was "go to therapy"
To be fair, I’d recommend therapy for anyone who plays world of Warcraft with some frequency 
lusty grotto
therapy is always good and nice
fallow nova
Therapy is generally good, but in some cases the necessity of it is overblown.
There are a lot of emotionally intelligent folks out there that could use a good session or ten, though.
pliant crypt
Anxiety is a trick of the mind, you feed it by calling it anxiety, same with dep...
There's this book called the way out which helped a couple friends of mine w chronic pain. Basically the gist was that our brains are very self malleable, even to the point of maintaining pain for long periods of time that has already went away. The same is true for emotional pain/emptiness.
There's too much nuance to actually cover in a discord yap but yeah, really interesting
lusty grotto
books are often very good
pliant crypt
OP for sure if you find the right ones
lusty grotto
especially if you dont have access to therapy and/or are not so comfortable doing so
pliant crypt
💯
lusty grotto
like theres a very famous book about quitting smoking which ive heard works really well
and then there's the art of not giving a fuck, or something like that which is also decent
sick sentinel
Only book one needs is of song ice and fire
pliant crypt
Rip
lusty grotto
soon to be finished in 2057
sick sentinel
HBO ruined it
lusty grotto
ive read them all
pliant crypt
like theres a very famous book about quitting smoking which ive heard works real...
Yeh I've heard good things
Smoking is so wild, did it for a decade and it fucks you up so bad, they say your lungs will heal over a long time but its 100% cope
The micro scar tissue is there forever
sick sentinel
I can give up smoking cigs if I cut the Marley
sick sentinel
Indeed especially if you mix it
pliant crypt
I had a flu for like a week
Was insane
Was harder to quit than alcohol or anything else lmao
sick sentinel
I smoke for a few months at time have break and I get mad night sweats and can’t sleep, shits bugging
urban portal
This is what I use
pliant crypt
Beauty
sick sentinel
Good thing is all the bad shit only last for like 2 weeks to a month at most
But taste of cigarettes horrible
pliant crypt
Fr
sick sentinel
Drinking is haram for me
lusty grotto
kinda helps coming from family/culture that drinks recreationally (and always with company) only
lusty grotto
loophole'd?
sick sentinel
I’ll find out when I die
lusty grotto
i used to like it but
i kinda outgrew it
i do it from time to time, especially when offered
but i dont go out of my way for it
sick sentinel
Helps me mentally more than prescriptions do, rather ingest something natural than lab made
lusty grotto
it helped my ADHD during college for sure
but i dont have a reason to do it anymore outside of very rarely with friends
sick sentinel
Worst thing about it that people don’t admit is the fact you can get lazy real fast
After work fine but all day pfftt can’t do it
tribal wharf
This is what I use
thats how i timed mists right there
lusty tiger
Yogi so based fr fr
I have like a 2hr window to smoke weed during the day has to be after work, after workout, and not right before bed
shell fox
merry sluice
man, wariror dps have gotten very... brave since pre-patch lol
watched one charge face first into melidrussa adds a mile awya from my bdkl
Then proceeded to watch him bait rocks in the most psychotic ways xD
toxic pewter
They put the zug in zug zug
chilly brook
but i also have very good self control with it
I quite literally only drink on work trips when it’s free
sick sentinel
CORPO-A-CORPO
strong viper
Ive played bdk the last 6 years and being stuck in a wheel chair and dying to high m+ trash is so frustrating please tell me warrior is salvation
violet ginkgo
You shouldn't be dying though as BDK? maybe August or someone here can give tips on that class.
I think this is not the class you played.
south zealot
This is what I use
nothing beats lightning a cigarette with a cigarette
strong viper
You shouldn't be dying though as BDK? maybe August or someone here can give tips...
oh maybe this goes for tww, new expansion when stats are low, its a generality when you don't have RP or bone shield charges you're weakest at the start of a pull and no access to shield block sucks. You can route plan for pull to pull but some dungeons like azure vault or mists you'll have down time where you lose resources
merry sluice
I mean, you really shouldn't be w/o boneshield outside of maybe the very firs tpull or post wipe
But u sitll can death's caress before getting in melee,, abom before getting in melee,, abuse the lower effective DRW cd
long bone
Abom no longer generates Bone Shield charges
neat crow
I mean, you really shouldn't be w/o boneshield outside of *maybe* the very firs ...
First pull u just put down any target dummy toy for 12 stacks and start combat from there
merry sluice
Abom no longer generates Bone Shield charges
pulling generates boneshield charges
hence the abom before getting in melee...
this also applies to death grip
This also applies if you attempt to pull a cc immune enemy
merry sluice
First pull u just put down any target dummy toy for 12 stacks and start combat f...
or dungeon critters, which they have semeingly restored in prepatch
yes. either one works as well if you want boneshield prepull
neat crow
Tbh if u ever wanna know if ur playing bdk properly just go into acherus and let mandl go to town on one of ur logs
merry sluice
Only if I get to make some popcorn before someone pokes mandl
sick sentinel
Mandl is a brutally honest chap, he went to town on me 
upbeat salmon
yeah mandl is pretty brutal, but he gives it to you straight lol
no ifs ands or buts about it 🙂
hardy snow
this auto defstance upon loging is so annoying 
hardy snow
yeah, Blizz was like "hey, prot warriors aren't using def stance much, lets just shove it in their mouths!"
regal glen
dark barn
I use def stance 100% of time in prot, if i want to do damage i switch to fury
toxic pewter
If anything the majority of the prot warrs I encounter in the wild unironically are in no stance at all, which is why blizz made this change. Anytime you log in, switch spec, it puts you in the “appropriate” stance
dark barn
I had a aura to remember me cause was super ez to forget after changing specs
strong forum
Ya same
blazing condor
And this is yall goat?
I used a TMW to tell me when i was in def stance
Cant be losing that dps
crystal iris
strong forum
everyone is doing more dmg
you included
but classes like frost DK and dps warrior did get a substantial buff
so their dmg increased more than most others
jagged pier
we pump
cerulean tusk
2h Prot dam is more than that fury war did 
jagged pier
okay it was a +9
i wasnt expecting miracles from the group
the tank was pulled trash from before the last boss onto the first boss
the group couldnt handle it so we wiped
kept me over 1 mil dps overall tho for a long time after 4 mil first pull
urban bane
Ive played bdk the last 6 years and being stuck in a wheel chair and dying to hi...
I don't think your question was addressed. dying to m+ trash -- is it as much of a "thing" for bdk as for prot? prot's mitigation model is moreso about dampening hits rather than recovering after you take hits, so that helps with situation you mentioned somewhat. being able to block melee swings from mobs prevents quite a lot of damage. for things you can't traditionally block, your defensives are there to help. but it also isn't fool-proof.
jagged pier
i mean depends what he means by high m + what group he runs with etc etc
urban bane
yea for sure
jagged pier
but if your dying to trash its likely a play problem
unless its like really high keys and his dps arent stoping
urban bane
yeah exactly, eventually most tanks have that problem. guess everyone has to play the game eventually :]
jagged pier
also even with bdk hard to know whats actually happening without logs
sick sentinel
Only 240k as VDH
cerulean tusk
BDK dying on trash, my guess: adds got swing synced, and he got 100-0 æ'd
Only way a bdk can really die on a higher key
sick sentinel
Or no runes, speaking from exp
cerulean tusk
Got too used to 90% parry ppl spammed HS instead of using DS, and died
sick sentinel
Totem boss in water dungeon pwned my BDK so hard
cerulean tusk
Really? I never struggled, if I pooled. Did he 1 tap you during skyfury?
sick sentinel
I was like 450 or something tho and it was a 10+ I think
cerulean tusk
jagged pier
sick sentinel
Did like 6 attempts then accepted PTSD and not touched BDK till yesterday
cerulean tusk
Warrior with lower gear would laugh it off
cerulean tusk
Yes way, I farmed that dung
sick sentinel
I mean dungeon if lower in above 10 key you dead boy
cerulean tusk
Warr handled ToT superwell
sick sentinel
True actually
jagged pier
nah it depends on tank as totem boss was just melees
sick sentinel
Spell reflect heaven
jagged pier
it does nothing to us
sick sentinel
I was just under ilvl on my bdk that was all
cerulean tusk
BDK required you to preplan, warr just block
cerulean tusk
Did ya rune it?
sick sentinel
I got ptsd
tribal wharf
i might still have the crab trinket in inventory if i were to log in
throne of tides, pretty sure you guys mean
cerulean tusk
Yarp
sick sentinel
Did ya rune it? <:danderson:904606068108304424>
Boss phase > 50% hp > DS 100% HP > wait for DS off GCD dead
Before i could hit another
Shit was painful
tribal wharf
i mean, i didnt think crab totem was the worst thing ever, but it was total dog shit you would want to immediately upgrade to better tier, sure.
sick sentinel
Ew crabs
urban bane
only thing that was annoying about ToT was doggos but ymmv
tribal wharf
oh, it wasnt a very good one, it was only a hero track, and then maybe it showed up in vault as whatever max ilvl was then
cerulean tusk
Pre Nerf ToT was a silly place, esp since pugs didn't know what was up or down
tribal wharf
there was alot of points of pain and failure in that place, i will say
if you were, unawares
sick sentinel
The hallway of endless adds
sick sentinel
Was easy on VDH
tribal wharf
the bfa dungeon with the bridge at the end and the mc dude
fu ck that
i still have nightmares about it huanting me and we did it constantly as team with voice
still fucked it up constantly
i hate that dungeon more than anything at all
SL ones were pretty nightmarish too, i guess
tribal wharf
plague fall and necrotic wake and spires (timer) was kinda grating, but it could be worse
sick sentinel
sick sentinel
My fav video from SL
tribal wharf
nononono make it stop
sick sentinel
tribal wharf
PF was so close to being perfect and cool dungeon
too many tiny death by 1000 needles
sick sentinel
I had like a +14 or whatever and it went down to like a +5 cause of first boss 🙂
toxic pewter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZqPPtGjn0A&t=2s
thats me
cerulean tusk
PF was great, if ppl didn't struggle with movement
tribal wharf
havent logged in in a while, today is free, might as well take a look
i had all this when i stopped
sick sentinel
I think it's time to retire
tribal wharf
paid for expansion
might as well see that when it launches
i have reasons i might jump back on this week, see what happens
sick sentinel
Blizzard refunded mine kek
tribal wharf
nahh i wouldnt refund the expansion
trail vigil
It's overwhelming how many buttons there are, haha. Anything I can do to make this easier to parse? Anything I can remove?
tribal wharf
could use hamstring but its like 0.5% of situations, someone else in team probably has something better