Fracture Crystals happen on 75 50 and 25
#protection
lusty grotto
high keys dps know when to push
you ideally want to push him AFTER or BEFORE he spawns orbs
so that either you have time to move the dragon
or you dont deal with them at all
crystal iris
dont you push when orbs come out to not die?
lusty grotto
fracture and orbs both put dragon strike back on the sspell queue
why
orbs on a crystal = bad
for melee at least
and for you as a tank
crystal iris
when im DPS I always use CDs on crystals to make sure we can get them down
lusty grotto
sure thats fine
im not talking about dpsing the crystals
im talking about pushing the boss
crystals spawn at 75 50 and 25
that's the bosses health
you will die only if you dont get hardened crystal down first
its the one that pulses the most damage
damage drops pretty sharply after that ones down
and, well, if they go off of course
lusty grotto
not really?
i can be, but not really
you just dont want 2 things happening at the same time so you stagger it
it highly depends on your dps
cooldowns or not
crystal iris
i agree though
lusty grotto
the biggest thing is to not have unleashed destruction happen at the same time as crystals
lusty grotto
orbs arent as important but its a good metric to go by
south zealot
holding cds and holding dps is different
south zealot
the healing it does is irrelevant yeah
it gives you armor/mainstat and haste on procs
which are much better than the ice proc
crystal iris
the uptime seems low
crystal iris
south zealot
the fire one does a dot
crystal iris
i mean all the uptimes seem low
south zealot
yeah bc each one individually is like 15 seconds every 2 minutes
crystal iris
makes sense then
south zealot
fire doesnt give you a buff i dont think
crystal iris
ya cant see it
i miss shield charge
but BSV saved my ass
some mob hit me with a 10 or 15s sleep
during a double pull on the ring
and i fkn lived
lusty grotto
oh boy
rigid hull
rigid hull
bro pls.....
crystal iris
you catalyse it...
rigid yew
Signet was my #1 damage on Heroic Raz today
quaint wind
So i just did an azure vault 15... and spell reflect didn't work for dmg on boss's. at least details didn't catch its dmg
rigid hull
what about it
im so stupid wtf
lusty grotto
So i just did an azure vault 15... and spell reflect didn't work for dmg on boss...
you dont reflect damage
its a deflect
you just dont take any
rigid hull
you catalyse it...
ofc this is what u meant im so stupid
ionic fern
Je, on that boss i don't think you ever REFLECTED. You Deflected it.
quaint wind
thats not true, last week even i was spell reflecting dragon strike and leymor for millions
quaint wind
what bosses do get spell reflected?
lusty grotto
you still need to use SR
ionic fern
There's a pin in the..pins.
lusty grotto
we have a sheet
ionic fern
lusty grotto
a deflect is a reflect
its just not damaging the source
it makes you take 0 damage
so its still a huge pro
lusty grotto
that means nothing
crystal iris
mhm
quaint wind
well im a touch confused but sounds good ill go off this
crystal iris
how many casts was that?
13... casts that it interrupted 🙂
crystal iris
no way, almost every pack in storm boss area of nokkud, every pack in third boss area
an adds on last boss
will it tell you?
lusty grotto
so 3 casts
bro if you get 3 mob casts
in 1 cast of disrupting
it counts 3
but you still casted disrupting ONCE
ionic fern
Okay, let me break it down to you.
While the interrupting of DS is nice, the main value of DS is actualy helping you GROUP the mobs properly.
Nokhud / RLP are both extremely good examples of this.
crystal iris
the far add gets cc, but the next to far add kets kicked and aggrod healer and runs out
crystal iris
meanwhile noone is helping with the 2 adds I have
lusty grotto
pugs too
ionic fern
2-3 packs ggwp.
lusty grotto
idk i use DS for the corruptors to chain them
crystal iris
all you need to know
lusty grotto
if anything
ionic fern
Yes, hense "grouping".
lusty grotto
im not saying DS is bad mwahi i use it lol
lusty grotto
im just saying 3 casts isnt DS value, its semantics
ionic fern
I'm /// cause people keep shitting on it for no reason.
It's not amazing, but it's by no means that BAD of a talent choice if you actually use it properly and deliberately.
lusty grotto
shit i was far off
lusty grotto
ok 8 casts IS DS value
crystal iris
I mean the entier first area you dont needd
lusty grotto
or the 2nd
ionic fern
2nd and 3rd you can use it almost on CD and get something.
crystal iris
yup
lusty grotto
its just 3rd and last boss
ionic fern
That elemental boy area as well.
Or are we thinking about 2 different dungeons now.
crystal iris
all nokuud
lusty grotto
of course
crystal iris
theres a lot of casts in the storm area
ionic fern
Jeah, there it's just the value of it interrupting.
lusty grotto
but shit is grouped up anyway in the storm area
ionic fern
Definitely not for grouping there, agreed.
crystal iris
and theres the 6s silence too
lusty grotto
theres not a lot
theres 2
mini boss
and tempest
thats it
the rest dont really matter
crystal iris
which is nicer then seeing them instantly all recast after shout
lusty grotto
also the roamer stormcast
crystal iris
mini boss, tempest, surges and the other add
crystal iris
I think i was accidentally reflecting right on pull
south zealot
reflecting surge is so sick for overall
the add twoshots it self when it casts
even if u dont reflecf
so its like turbo pad but fuck it
rigid yew
on the last boss, I call for 2 adds on the other side to be CC'ed. sometimes 1 gets broke but cc is a must. never failed a nok key with using cc. have failed almost all that didn't cc at least 1 add
crystal iris
so nim explain the rageheart pic
crystal iris
am I doing high keys yet?
lusty grotto
tank in AV i just did with my pally
crystal iris
how did that feel
crystal iris
id feel naked without SR in there lol
lusty grotto
LOL
ionic fern
I haven't seen a pug warrior in a while. 😦
lusty grotto
i dont think he reflected much
he got dragon stricken a few times and took full damage so idk
rigid yew
yes but if you are doing high keys you have comms which means you can stop/kick properly. lower keys no much comms. im talking 12 key range
crystal iris
Am I doing high keys yet
ionic fern
yes but if you are doing high keys you have comms which means you can stop/kick ...
Even in a 15 tyrannical it's spicy.
crystal iris
Y’a
lusty grotto
so you want to get that phase done as fast as possible
crystal iris
Divine toll is nice for that phase
ionic fern
Interrupt the far left one;
Knock the 2 on the other side with druid/evoker;
Disrupting shout all 4 to the middle.
rigid yew
highest ive done is 14
all I know is if there isn't cc you can kiss the key goodbye. just my experience. people always die from missed kicks cause they spam cast 24/7
ionic fern
That's how my last one went.
lusty grotto
14 on tyrannical?
crystal iris
Same just now
crystal iris
We had 1 cc but I kicked the left one and was getting aggro on those 2 when the mid right add ran out to fkn narnia to try killing the healer
lusty grotto
i mean if your healer can keep up, its fine
ionic fern
That's also a really strong lust point.
rigid yew
tyrannical
im not saying its optimal. just any time there's 0 cc we wipe
ionic fern
You kill the boss with reflect after that phase anyways.
lusty grotto
its always a lust point for sure
crystal iris
My taunt shouldn’t have been on CD but was, so I ran to get the add and the other chain casted on DPS
ionic fern
My taunt shouldn’t have been on CD but was, so I ran to get the add and the othe...
HEROIC LEAP.
crystal iris
Came back to DS them and charged back to the far add but no kick
crystal iris
HEROIC LEAP.
That’s what I means
I was going back and forth between the far add and the 2 grouped trying to kick and stun but the far one would not come in
ionic fern
crystal iris
So niche
ionic fern
It's a weird interaction, indeed.
lusty grotto
i dont think you can call it a tech
ionic fern
Idk who came up with "YOuknow what..let the warrior leap and be able to taunt again".
lusty grotto
i
south zealot
heroic leap resets taunt cd
what
lusty grotto
yeah idk
south zealot
wtf lol
crystal iris
south zealot
what
lusty grotto
south zealot
nobody knows that
rigid hull
BRUH
lusty grotto
i see how it is
crystal iris
Nobody thinks to use that
south zealot
theres no way thats a common piece of information
ionic fern
lusty grotto
OKAY you guys
crystal iris
When you’ve got 3 chain casting adds haha
ionic fern
theres no way thats a common piece of information
Just read the tooltip. 
south zealot
is that actually the tooltip
ionic fern
Yes.
lusty grotto
just imagine the warrior class dev
crystal iris
is that actually the tooltip
lol
south zealot
ive never once thought to read it lol
ionic fern
I'm going to say that they have probably forgotten about it themselves as well seeing how dumb of a interaction it is.
lusty grotto
lmao
crystal iris
Taunt a mob, leap, taunt another mob. Tank both mobs
lusty grotto
i wouldnt doubt it
south zealot
i really want warrior to be like
unplayably bad
and then they remove that taunt reset
crystal iris
Nono this is nice
south zealot
would be the funniest thing ever
ionic fern
Do you use the /Taunt macro?
median tulip
I have actually deliberately used the heroic leap/taunt interaction. Like, once, but still...
ionic fern
You NEED to have a taunt infront of Taunt.
e.g:
/say OI CUNT;
/cast Taunt
For maximum RP points.
ionic fern
I think mods and SF can do it as well.
median tulip
You NEED to have a taunt infront of Taunt.
e.g:
/say OI CUNT;
/cast Taunt
There is actually a weakaura that has like 100 taunts and picks one at random
ionic fern
ionic fern
There is actually a weakaura that has like 100 taunts and picks one at random
I need that.
crystal iris
Nothing to admin anyway Nimrat scares all the new players away
lusty grotto
median tulip
I need that.
median tulip
You can totally edit your own taunts in
crystal iris
Hey you
radiant mortar
Nothing to admin anyway Nimrat scares all the new players away
new players just cant handle the truth
lusty grotto
mwahi moving on up to yo momma jokes
ionic fern
mwahi moving on up to yo momma jokes
You know it. If i can't do it on Discord, i need to vent somewhere else.
lusty grotto
what
radiant mortar
you guys play with macros? arnt you type casting?
crystal iris
Ive got enough buttons to press lol
lusty grotto
of course
ionic fern
Jeah, i do a /readycheck and a pull timer before every pack in m+.
lusty grotto
only the true gamers do that
lusty grotto
the worst one is typing /cast Thunderclap
lusty grotto
well yea
radiant mortar
thats how I play
rigid yew
/cast Melee
lusty grotto
i cant imagine german players doing it
ionic fern
In SL i had a RP'er in my weekly 20 key.
It was the weirdest thing ever.
He had macros for for all the fancy spells and was typing SOOOO much between the packs/before the packs.
Dude had like a full backstory for most of the dungeon.
lusty grotto
they must be gods
ionic fern
It was also freaking hilarious and refreshing.
lusty grotto
LOL
radiant mortar
/zauber SChildschlag
crystal iris
Haha that’s great
radiant mortar
/zauber Donnerknall
crystal iris
A lot of them are really cringe
radiant mortar
/zauber Ansturm
crystal iris
But there are some normal RPers that are jokes
lusty grotto
Sarkareth <Anführer der Splitterflammen>
what was the boss that Rosch put
that fucking cracked me up
i think that was his name Rosch
radiant mortar
who did what
radiant mortar
median tulip
Sarkareth <Anführer der Splitterflammen>
is Splitterflammen genuinely the translation of "sundered flame"?
lusty grotto
idk thats what wow has him as
i only got 2 college classes of german and ive forgotten everything except the alcohol related stuff
radiant mortar
yes
lusty grotto
check this
median tulip
imagine not getting der die das as english speaker
I have enough issues remembering which are de woorden and which het woorden
lusty grotto
fuck i cant find it lmao
radiant mortar
thats the german titel you get when you kill Maloriak "Schlächter von dummen, inkompetenten und enttäuschenden Lakaien"
radiant mortar
fuck i cant find it lmao
radiant mortar
I have enough issues remembering which are de woorden and which het woorden
sorry I dont speak dutch
radiant mortar
I know kanker
lusty grotto
lets just agree that they are gods if they do type-the-spells gaming
ionic nimbus
Zähne zusammenbeißen are the best
Nothing can Beat BfA Dungeonnames Like „Das Riesenflöz“,“Kronsteiganwesen“ or „Tiefenpfuhl“
radiant mortar
Riesenflöz banger name
median tulip
is that Underrot?
blazing condor
svensk more like german
blazing condor
blazing condor
socket in vault baby
jagged pier
same baby
ionic fern
No.
radiant mortar
Nice I can feeld the weapon alrdy
blazing condor
i like puzzles
boreal haven
I hate Puzzlebox.
Also i hate Dragonriding.
dont @me.
blazing condor
@me 
jagged pier
@me
blazing condor
luckily you dont have to do anything with either of those things
ionic fern
I want puzzle just for fury, apparently it's good.
jagged pier
yer its mastery
blazing condor
bonk
jagged pier
jagged pier
ionic fern
Sure, but when i get meleed 3 times + the tank mechanic on first phase and then once we get back get meleed again, i'm going to count that as a "tank issue".
I did get big reflect value from it tho.
blazing condor
pog
proud silo
i watched our healer get bonked once with the tank in range, boss can be kinda silly
blazing condor
i get why they design bosses like that
but i dont like that bosses are designed like that
or at least bosses that were like mueh'zala / pi g boss from WM where everyone just gets bonked cus no one was in melee
rigid hull
ok quick in and out for diurna ring
radiant mortar
last boss hoi is just dumb, why knock the tank back if you just go to bonk melees after
radiant mortar
sure but I still keep my point of it being badly designd. Its not fun
jagged pier
its just bliz trying a new mechanic
radiant mortar
also just to make sure I always SR the beam never the cast before right?
jagged pier
deluge
jagged pier
ionic fern
Was Cata any good?
ionic fern
Wdym?
ionic fern
I'm not even leveled.
radiant mortar
cata was when I satrted my pwar arc
ionic fern
Think my classic char is like..10.
radiant mortar
I'm not even leveled.
thats even further behind
radiant mortar
also by 'hard' i mean u actually need to inturpt
wait we hadnt dhs back then how did we survive that?
ionic fern
Je, my SoD character is also lvl 10.
jagged pier
yer
jagged pier
but u get xp increase in sod
ionic fern
True.
ionic fern
Since there's no prot updates in TWW i need to fill my time with something.
blazing condor
but in end game we're also solo c tier and the "worst"
ionic fern
jagged pier
touch grass?
blazing condor
can't win in any version of the game
jagged pier
ride motorcycle?
blazing condor
no grass in estonia
ionic fern
True.
I got no clue how i passed my technical inspection yesterday for my motorcycle.
The rear tire has almost no thread left.
ionic fern
<:bedge:882323848844963860>
I can't sleep before midnight.
ionic fern
Je, i was planning to lvl a priest in sod.
jagged pier
just member if u play prot in cata
ionic fern
Just cause i don't have that at max lvl.
ionic fern
That's a hard pass.
jagged pier
blazing condor
idk i find it pretty enjoyable
radiant mortar
aoe wasnt a big thing in old wow
blazing condor
the only thing i dont really like is that you use Battle Shout in your rotation
cus it grants rage
ionic fern
aoe wasnt a big thing in old wow
Je, but journey went Vanilla->TBC->Start of WOTLK->Legion
And Cata always seemed kinda interesting with the story.
blazing condor
Im biased because cata was my first expansion but i like it
radiant mortar
Story?
radiant mortar
blazing condor
also many good QOL things added
but then again its "worse" QOL compared to retail
radiant mortar
two talent spec pog
with seperate gold costs to resepc
respec cost capped
all good
blazing condor
i remember the whole reforge azerite shenanigans in BFA
with infinitely scaling costs
rigid hull
is bfa the worst one?
radiant mortar
SL is in my opinion
blazing condor
i liked the world in BFA
some good additions
just some systems that were kinda shit
ionic fern
BFA was real chill.
SL was..ugh.
Like..you thought BFA was bad when it was current.
radiant mortar
MoP > WoD > Cata > DF > Legion >> BfA >>>> SL
ionic fern
But then SL came and you were like "Damn..BFA was actually solid".
radiant mortar
I would say thats my list
blazing condor
its hard because i liked SL because i had the most fun with my guild / pushed the best with keys / had the best logs
etc
but objectively it was just ass
jagged pier
Legion> MOP> vanilla> BC > WRATH > WoD > BFA > DF> SL
actually i judged bfa too hardly
Legion> MOP> vanilla> BFA > BC > WRATH > WoD > DF> SL
radiant mortar
I was to young to really play vanilla, bc and wrath
jagged pier
same but i still had fun playing them
ionic fern
same but i still had fun playing them
What.
radiant mortar
but cant rank them
jagged pier
29
ionic fern
Almost.
jagged pier
future is now old man
radiant mortar
old ass Mwahi
blazing condor
yall old
ionic fern
Aight, time to go pay someone a ton of money to look at my car, do a oil change and give 2 signatures.
jagged pier
blazing condor
it does start with a 1
radiant mortar
Aight, time to go pay someone a ton of money to look at my car, do a oil change ...
old people stuff
blazing condor
followed by three 9s
radiant mortar
lucky
ionic fern
old people stuff
Agreed.
blazing condor
gonna get to 101 and live in three centuries
ionic fern
You're gonna live through all the WoW Classic expansions followed by all the WoW Classic Remix expansions.
Followed by all the "Remastered WoW Classic expansions".
blazing condor
i wonder how long wow will actually live
ionic fern
It's been dying since TBC.
ionic fern
Runescape the OG "WoW Killer"
blazing condor
osrs on top though tbh
ionic fern
i mean they gotta stop pumping out new xpac sometime right
Doubt.
It's still a subscription based service .
Which is wild to me.
blazing condor
honestly
they very much could make it F2p and have a huge influx of new players
but thats just not enough money
ionic fern
Jep.
radiant mortar
as long as people like us are playing and paying they wont stop
ionic fern
They are going to be living off of people like me, teaching their child to play WoW.
For generations to come.
jagged pier
^^
radiant mortar
yeah
ionic fern
Jep.
jagged pier
and u will ENJOY IT
radiant mortar
F2p would be scarry because p2w shit isnt far of
blazing condor
yeah thats the payoff
ionic fern
Hey, as long as they enjoy it.
Mine's currently on a "Minecraft" and "Pokemon" train.
So i'm kinda stuck there.
blazing condor
i mean i would've enjoyed it
hell
i did enjoy it as a kid
killing rats in Varrock sewers
jagged pier
well mining and herb is kinda like the gather part of minecraft
ionic fern
well mining and herb is kinda like the gather part of minecraft
True.
blazing condor
remember to teach your kids that emulating nintendo games is morally correct
not that i think the kids of today would like to play GBA pokemon games
ionic fern
Duuuuude.
jagged pier
mine will be playing them
ionic fern
I recently found those old, Lays Pokemon Tazos.
I had a huge collection of thoes.
And gave it to her.
Most excited ever.
Idk if you guys had them.
ionic fern
You got from Lays.
jagged pier
Yer i had them
blazing condor
we got it somehow else idrk
blazing condor
thats cool
jagged pier
blazing condor
if u teach them young i guess
jagged pier
They will be playing on this
ionic fern
That's actually pog.
jagged pier
Then they get the ds with heart gold and soul silver
ionic fern
if u teach them young i guess
Jeah.,
blazing condor
u better catch them hiding it under their pillow
tacit haven
Does avoidance have any real value for prot?
blazing condor
there's always value in having more stats
but not exactly pivotal for our spec
you take a bit less damage
ionic fern
Does avoidance have any real value for prot?
Yes, but don't drop ilvl for it.
jagged pier
That's actually pog.
ionic fern
I've lowkey gone through some of thoes "old-stuff" markets to see if i can find these.
But NOWHERE.
tacit haven
Ok so myth track belt over hero track with avoidance then?
tacit haven
Thanks
jagged pier
I've lowkey gone through some of thoes "old-stuff" markets to see if i can find ...
ppl have been buying then up. like the only good investment i made years ago was to go for them
and heart gold soul silver
even tho now they coming to switch
blazing condor
i still have my OG green emerald / leaf green GBA cartridges somewhere
jagged pier
i still have my OG green emerald / leaf green GBA cartridges somewhere
yer they worth a lot now too
i have my firered
but i never got the other
wish i had now
blazing condor
me and my brother would always get different games
so i got SS he got HG
Ruby / sapphire etc
jagged pier
yer
kinda the same but we didnt really do gen 3
then i was on my own from then on
radiant mortar
I think the last I played was with the fox starter
blazing condor
thats pokemon X and Y i think
tight sedge
Little late to the party here but I smelled OSRS in the chat and remembered. I logged back in recently to see where it was at.
I'm really grateful that RS doesn't have a /played feature.
tight sedge
It is. But the character was made before RS3 & OSRS 😁
blazing condor
valid
jagged pier
thats a big account
waxen frigate
The trout
jagged pier
I did was it good?
looked POG
blazing condor
🐠
waxen frigate
I did was it good?
looked POG
Was banger
jagged pier
Was banger
jagged pier
no this is the canned fish channel
radiant mortar
ah
torn gulch
holy shit I'm looking at some prot logs and I stumbled upon a prot log for a 16 HOI where tank has around 39% SB uptime
and it was timed
torn gulch
key was timed that's the most important thing
after all
ultra defensive build as well
100% DS double defensive trinkets battle scarred veteran
fully embracing his role as a tank
torn gulch
because hes not mitigating the damage he should be
true
jagged pier
all that shows is score isnt everthing
and if u have a good tema around u, you still dont have to play correctly
torn gulch
and the irony is that it doesn't look like healer had to heal him that much either
very strange log
errant widget
Quick Q on bullion prio as M+ player only. If I have trash trinkets (Grapnel and SBD) and trash rings (both S3 items), but 4 bullions burning a hole in my pocket, what's the prio? Do I go for BIS rings, or Anvil and Dread? Sim is suggesting a mix with Anvil and Diurna ring for max DPS, but still sub-500 ilvl so looking for the most impact choices. FYI I already have Gholak with first bullions.
torn gulch
what is your shield? (ignore this)
errant widget
shield is HC but I can also craft if needed
jagged pier
if u arent willing to pug hc raids then just get trinkets imo
or fire ring and plates
and then hope u get treemouth
at some point
but looks like we will keep getting bulloons anyway
so just buy what u want
🤷
errant widget
❤️
torn gulch
we get 5 bullions in the next 3 weeks
errant widget
thanks!
torn gulch
if i am not mistaken
jagged pier
yer but i mean it looks like we will just keep getting them until end of season
so it really doesnt matter what u get now
waxen frigate
Get good
waxen frigate
Also @errant widget Nice pfp
^ the noise my knees made when getting out of that pose had the photographer actually concerned for my health
jagged pier
that pose my knees could not do
errant widget
Nice! "Bright suns" ❤️
errant widget
^ the noise my knees made when getting out of that pose had the photographer act...
can hard relate, too
ionic fern
I got no idea what i just came back to.
toxic pewter
That’s me in that photo with light sabers
waxen frigate
that pose my knees could not do
Photographer hit us with a “who’s feeling athletic” after 10 full hours walking (after 2 days at blizzcon also) and I drew the short straw
jagged pier
oof
waxen frigate
I think after that I literally went and got a blue milk and just sat my ass down in the middle of Star Wars land
Actually it was prob like 9pm when that pic was taken so I’d say 12 hrs of walking minimum
I think we did 18km or so
toxic pewter
Disney ruined Star war
waxen frigate
Disney ruined Star war
Star Wars land is so fucking sick tho
toxic pewter
Burn it all to ground
Salt the earth
Disney must be stopped
They are worse than the empire
mellow bridge
blazing condor
Mfs cant catch a break
radiant mortar
hardy snow
radiant mortar
Im warming up to this xan emote
jagged pier
zealous goblet
Fellas if I thunderclap and revenge then heroic leap into the next mob and my friend rips on the pack i leaped away from, is that my bad? Is that not enough threat to begin a decent sized pull?
jagged pier
i mean idealy as a dps they would wait for everything to be stacked
🤷
but hard to tell if hes just dotting
thats on u
if hes full on bursting thats on him
zealous goblet
That sounds a little loaded i just mean how much time should i spend per pack before charging to next
And idk he's enh shaman i don't know what he does i barely know what my class does
zealous goblet
Humm. Tricky situation
radiant mortar
also depends on class, rogues and hunter can help keep aggro
shadows can start dotting and fade
paladins like to insta burst and fall over, just ignore those
zealous goblet
Enhance shaman
radiant mortar
Never played with a bad Enhance shaman tbh
they are so niche that all I know are top gamers
ionic fern
I honestly don't spend as much time on a pack if i'm grouping.
Take first pull of NL on left side.
From the first 2 mobs, I Charge the left one, SS it, taunt + heroic throw right mob
Leap->Thunder Clap the 3 guys + AoE Heroic throw next pack
Charge the pat.
radiant mortar
HUH
ionic fern
radiant mortar
how is it just a passive for you
its an extra button for me
what do you give up for it?
ionic fern
Sidearm
ionic fern
how is it just a passive for you
It's from the talent calculator.
radiant mortar
Im learning a lot in the last few day, I can see my io rising, now i only need to play
radiant mortar
thx
radiant mortar
rigid hull
💀
crystal iris
Sidearm
Finally someone else sees the value in titanic throw
Let’s enjoy this moment before Nim appears and tells us it’s « fine but you don’t get value from it » or something 😅
frosty mango
Last time we talked about titanic throw people got banned
It’s almost as polarizing as disrupting shout
jagged pier
i dont think anyone has said titanic throw doesnt give value
radiant mortar
Let’s enjoy this moment before Nim appears and tells us it’s « fine but you don’...
@lusty grotto can you confirm or deny this?
jagged pier
but value is literally a subjective thing
radiant mortar
Last time we talked about titanic throw people got banned
good to know
jagged pier
i see no value in disrutping shout outside of actual group keys where its used correctly 99% of u will disagree, but yet no one manged to provide me evidence of it being the god thing that ppl say it is
and they just show proof that they are under utilising their other cc because they have disrupting shout
thats all thats ever been shown to me
radiant mortar
i see no value in disrutping shout outside of actual group keys where its used c...
I only play it in NOK for last boss
It feels good and helpful there
jagged pier
exactly a reason too run it
because it enables the boss
well depending on group if u have a dk or shaman or druid u might as well not take it as they can stack adds
toxic pewter
yeah the amount of people not getting value out of disrupting shout is staggering
radiant mortar
I got better at using my stops on dif tagrets so I dont "need" it as much anymore for other keys. But it is also okayish for RLP
jagged pier
but all ppl say it, 'its great in pugs' then link logs that show they could have used everything else instead of disrupting shout and have lost no value
radiant mortar
just hit them with my profile msg
jagged pier
no someone did it from their perspective
linked a log to show how good disrupting was
in that log they didnt intim shout once
which would have covered all of the intuprts pretty much
then linked another where they did intim shout
but then they didnt disrutping at all to intuprt
ever tho that had it talented
so literally wasted talent
🤷
frosty mango
Disrupting is great in nokhud if you use it frequently because you can get max disrupts and still get use from intim, imo you don’t need it anywhere else
radiant mortar
I think if I had to I would also say RLP is a good dungeon for it
frosty mango
There are times in nokhud where you can get 5 interrupts with 1 disrupt and still catch 3+ with intim and there’s minimal overlap with others, mainly storm boss area and those fucking ape shitting birds
radiant mortar
a lof of casters in there
toxic pewter
I just find the ability to be so awkward to use that i prefer not to run it
frosty mango
Everywhere else imo you’re not getting max value out of it without some big brain plays
It’s 14 yards that’s pretty big
toxic pewter
All i know is in tww it will fail in comparison to gorefiends
15 sec longer cd but it will pull all mobs to you and silence them and easily accessible
radiant mortar
Gorefiend is such a good group up spell
DK would be fun if they had more mobility
frosty mango
Gorefiend is such a good group up spell
Ya that’s because that’s kind of the whole point of it
radiant mortar
but I just like the class fantasy of pwar so much
frosty mango
That’s like saying “man cars are so good for driving” 😑
radiant mortar
I prefer trains
dont need to do it myself and can sleep
feels like fast traveling
radiant mortar
Ya that’s because that’s kind of the whole point of it
jokes asaide, why cant our group up spell be as good?
like give us the same option even if it isnt the same spell
frosty mango
jokes asaide, why cant our group up spell be as good?
Because we’re not demon hunters
toxic pewter
honestly sounds like a copout but they really should just turn it into an aoe silence isntead of interrupt
radiant mortar
dhs have gorefiend???
frosty mango
dhs have gorefiend???
Sigil of something I’m sure
toxic pewter
next xpac bdk will all have gorefiends and it will have a 1.5 min cd and it will silence all targets it grips
frosty mango
Only demon hunters get cool utility from other classes
We’re warriors therefore we don’t get cool utility
Or any utility
We are meant to suffer
It makes us better
radiant mortar
next xpac bdk will all have gorefiends and it will have a 1.5 min cd and it will...
makes dk a good dps pick in my books
toxic pewter
bear and brew still dont have any sort of aoe silence situation to be fair as far as i know
toxic pewter
makes dk a good dps pick in my books
its a blood talent
radiant mortar
not aoe but greeat
frosty mango
Brewmasters are pretty solid at gathering with rop n stop
radiant mortar
its a blood talent
oh sry didnt read your msg correctly, only read all dks will have it
my bad
yeah brew is great
bear is suffering
frosty mango
Just give warrior lust and I can die happy
radiant mortar
no give me real utility
toxic pewter
yah but with the bdk new gorefiend next xpac and the state of vengeance, it seems blizz is sort of shifting toward all tanks having some sort of aoe silence/similar situation
waxen cradle
I would assume if I dont have a Mythic shield and I have one in my vault even one with shitty stats the play would be take the shield yeah ?
kind urchin
They never should have given vengeance 2 charges of all of their sigils.
jagged pier
I would assume if I dont have a Mythic shield and I have one in my vault even on...
Yes.
crystal mauve
I would assume if I dont have a Mythic shield and I have one in my vault even on...
Yes
zealous goblet
friendly reminder disrupting shout only works against what i can only imagine are autistic enemies because legit who would fumble casting a frostbolt over being yelled at besides the neurodivergent and abuse victims
just saying
so you're actually a piece of shit if you use dissrupting shout
unkempt hazel
Just give warrior lust and I can die happy
now that I think bout it, that'd make pwarr the only lust tank
frosty mango
friendly reminder disrupting shout only works against what i can only imagine ar...
Fits the class lore
zealous goblet
grab the caster's wrists
"WHY DO YOU ACTL IKE THIS YOU NEED TO BEHAVE WE'RE IN A WALMART"
tribal wharf
zealous goblet
speaking of neurodivergent
why does my drake randomly screech like 6 times in a row sometimes
like a mount special?
do i need to get earmuffs for it?
mount special as in when you press space in tbc or some shit and your tiger would roar*
but my space bar is to take flight
so i don't know why it's roaring several times in a row
toxic pewter
wat
frosty mango
friendly reminder disrupting shout only works against what i can only imagine ar...
You’ve clearly never been next to a screaming tween child
Shouting can be very disruptive
zealous goblet
You’ve clearly never been next to a screaming tween child
nonsense its just gonna add determination to my cast
i cast slam
they stop shouting
easy
frosty mango
It’s ineffective
toxic pewter
only slammin we do is of the shield variety
plush path
hello generally speaking which one is more important?
the neck gives a good amount of haste and i have very low rn
strong forum
Splinter gets more value from +6ilvl
~10% bigger absorb
The neck gains hardly anything
So if you are willing to just grind the neck, the trinket goes a longer way
Recommend getting that
plush path
okey thank you ill get the trinket
rapid belfry
7ilvl on shield vs 20ilvl on wrist? I think wrist upgrade win, but not sure how important shield is for protwarr.
plush tendon
always take shield
jagged pier
and as prot u should craft bracers anyway
plush tendon
wrists are prime crafted slot anyways
rapid belfry
ah ok, thanks for info
pine lotus
With into the fray, how much haste do we need to maintain 100% shield block uptime? Also is it bad to use both charges, and shield charge right away for 24 sec worth
next yacht
Best vault ever!!!
crystal iris
With into the fray, how much haste do we need to maintain 100% shield block upti...
5400 Haste. I usually use 1 charge, then shield charge
then a few seconds later the second charge
frosty mango
With into the fray, how much haste do we need to maintain 100% shield block upti...
For me it was around 6000 haste and now with 7400 or so sb is comfortably 100% uptime every key with itf (ie I don’t need to think about it)
zealous goblet
Splinter gets more value from +6ilvl
~10% bigger absorb
The neck gains hardly an...
splinter deez cowboy
gotem
sorry my parents might be related
zealous goblet
dude get this
just drive into a wall at high speeds
and enjoy the brain damage
it even improved my ability to tank because my pain receptors no work no more
frosty mango
zealous goblet
i put hand on stofetop no burn1!!
waxen frigate
I wanna be 12 again too
Careful what you wish for
frosty mango
Careful what you wish for
I would love a do over
Id definitely do way more drugs and invest more intelligently
crystal iris
For me it was around 6000 haste and now with 7400 or so sb is comfortably 100% u...
I've been running BSV and its so annoying have to actually monitor your SB uptime so closely to notice when it falls and hit last stand
zealous goblet
More haste more better
it's like anime if you get fast enough the enemy will be hitting your after image!!
crystal iris
More haste more better
i have a metric boatload already
low oracle
I have 93% SB 90% IP with 3800 haste, but I've also been misplaying and pressing block outside of combat and wasting charges sometimes... is the last few % really that much haste?
lusty grotto
thats not a metric boatload
crystal iris
true idk why I thought it was more
low oracle
ya this character is super undergeared atm
lusty grotto
do i have to put this on my nickname
crystal iris
i guess im used to looking at it with ITF stacks and sharpinging stone
waxen frigate
Id definitely do way more drugs and invest more intelligently
Bro ever since I talked to @lusty tiger my investments are cooking and I’m also larger if you know what I mean
crystal iris
ya you could change the rageheart name ppl got the message lol
lusty grotto
not really they havent
crystal iris
havent seen someone asking in here n a few days no?
lusty grotto
but eventually it wont matter cause we'll have more than enough bullions
zealous goblet
I have 93% SB 90% IP with 3800 haste, but I've also been misplaying and pressing...
currently, for me atleast, my shield block is a 10sec cd
crystal iris
but eventually it wont matter cause we'll have more than enough bullions
never enough
zealous goblet
with 55% haste, 6100 haste
6180*
also mister nim said not to use ignore pain uptime metric
lusty grotto
yeah that SB cd also is something you dont track cause it varies with ITF and lust
and wafting
radiant mortar
didnt get a dps weapon in vault so I took sockets
lusty grotto
SB uptime is everything and all
crystal iris
its a no-brainer for me using the standard build though
its almost a no brainer with BSV build
zealous goblet
mister nim also whispered in my ear to bring a duffel bag into grand central park at 8:11pm august 9th 2024