I've never used or seen it before, does it do anything similar to grieftorch?
During that duration I recall you couldn't block for example --- when you use anvil does it have a lengthy cast or is it instant? anything I should know?
#protection
wide charm
wide charm
cool
south zealot
once you leave combat the buff starys to fall off
you have 15 seconds to get in combat again or to use the active again
if you use the active it resets the 15 second timer
toxic pewter
can i get bullions from lfr
south zealot
yes
crystal iris
How is everyone enjoying their latest rage heart purchase this week
lusty grotto
im doing mental gymnastics right now
i want myth chest or legs on warrior
and just buy dreadplates
but i also can get dreadplates from vault
or i can get myth anvil from vault
i think ima open as arms
for myth anvil and/or myth tier
and then just buy the dreadplates
lusty grotto
dat me
lusty grotto
yup
lusty grotto
nah im thinking arms is more optimal
more chances at chest/legs/helm
- anvil
less slots taking 1 handers and shields
crystal iris
You have myth shield ?
lusty grotto
i do
crystal iris
And 1H for prot?
crystal iris
Well idk haha
crystal iris
You say that but you raid arms so maybe you bought loggo upgrade idk
crystal iris
Oh week 3
lusty grotto
diurna 3rd
crystal iris
True I blew third on augury
south zealot
what are chabces i get gnarlroot shield and gholak in mythix reclear
lusty grotto
well in 2 weeks
lusty grotto
since everything will be open by then
bro choco lol
we're inhaling massive copium
south zealot
for sure itll drop
crystal iris
I opened as arms and got myth pants BIS arms
lusty grotto
💯
south zealot
and noone else needs it
crystal iris
But I catalysed them like an idiot
south zealot
surely noone needs a myth shield
lusty grotto
surely
just stare at shamans and cough paladins intensely
honestly why the fuck do shamans even go gnarlroot shield, it has no versa
or mastery
haste crit doodoo for rsham at least
crystal iris
My warrior has to either buy ring, OCE or cape now
Or ashkunder for fury
Or dreadp’ayes for prot
pallid quiver
haste crit doodoo for rsham at least
mastery is a doo doo butter stat for rsham at the moment
lusty grotto
well it has no versa
pallid quiver
There's not much timeframe where you can utilize it healing people being low
lusty grotto
(:
pallid quiver
Crit/Vers are the two main bits, and haste still helps cycle
lusty grotto
let me cope okay
lusty grotto
i mean im guessing its good for hpal but who the fuck plays hpal
lusty grotto
and prot pal creams at versa for some reason
probably the same reason versa andies here cream at nymue's shield
pallid quiver
Prot Pal also doesn't deserve shields
lusty grotto
or av shield
toxic pewter
dont know what to spend bullions on
south zealot
i need equinox to not bring prot warrior to raid
lusty grotto
i suggest dn
south zealot
so i can snag all the loot
pallid quiver
I lose my mind over Eranog shield crit vers because it's the shield I have, therefore best shield
pallid quiver
he says, unaware that i'm running HR
toxic pewter
both rings just destroy haste bad
lusty grotto
im running hr too :\
pallid quiver
at least haste isn't my lowest stat anymore
toxic pewter
when is HR the option its like 5400 right
lusty grotto
hr less than 5400
violet ginkgo
I lose my mind over Eranog shield crit vers because it's the shield I have, ther...
Same kekw it's heroic for me so I can't change to anything, still try hoping for nymue or AV shield
pallid quiver
toxic pewter
hmmm
lusty grotto
im over 5400 but i still have some huge gaps so
im thinking ill swap back after haste shield
crystal iris
violet ginkgo
It's time for 7k haste nim 😄
crystal iris
im running HR should I not be
lusty grotto
dont think you can hit 7k with both rings
lusty grotto
yeah close
crystal iris
so above 5400 you run HR?
lusty grotto
but not quite at or over 7k
south zealot
under 5400
lusty grotto
under 5400 you run HR
crystal iris
ah kk
south zealot
honestly under 6k id still run hr
lusty grotto
yeah its fucking scary
pallid quiver
honestly, next bullion, i'm probably getting a crit haste shield tbh
cosmetics are being handled by my alt shaman
because my shaman is better geared than my war ;-;
violet ginkgo
but why not getting nymue? said sims the best
pallid quiver
because i ain't getting bis in everything
lusty grotto
cause we get too much versa on tier
and not enough crit
2 pieces with versa = too much versa
😎
south zealot
prove it in federal court
pallid quiver
Is jiggles a flying mount?
crystal iris
nope
lusty grotto
alright is warrior vault time
crystal iris
whenever I open as prot its always a bunch of 1H and capes
crystal iris
I mean
lusty grotto
ill go puzzlbox 😭
crystal iris
nice box
violet ginkgo
damn... grabbing puzzle or socket time?
lusty grotto
well hopefully healers can heal gauntlet so it wont be a bad thing
yeah i got puzzle box
wait
violet ginkgo
I got a shoulder upgrade this time, well kind of obvious choice.
violet ginkgo
the raid slot is filled from 3 raid nim
violet ginkgo
not just the awakened raid for the week
lusty grotto
myth works differently
i was only getting the past week's awakened M loot
except this week
last week i got voti, week before i got amirdrassil
it was the past awakened raid for mythic
not all 3
its all 3 for heroic
or normal/lfr i guess
hmm
maybe i just got unlucky
and got previous awakened mythic raid loot
on those slots
i wonder if that means i can keep fishing for anvil with a 3 boss reclear
i can probably do a 4 boss reclear, if pugs arent sucking dick on council or larodar
and/or nymue
🤔
and by that i mean being absolute bads on igira
and breaking the raid
cause NA mythic pug things
anyway im buying dreadplates
pallid quiver
we almost had a break on heroic igira for my shaman, nim
tank was running around in circles
crystal iris
I think I either buy shield ring or dreadplates
even though I dont tank much on fort weeks lol
and its two on uses
lusty grotto
yeah luerce but at least heroic you can just hop on the next pug
myth igira is a pug breaker and that's it for your 2+ boss reclear
cause youre locked
lusty grotto
wait i lied i have myth tier gloves on warrior lol
but my paladin has 4 myth tier pieces ):
dreadplates acquired 🙂
violet ginkgo
Poggies for the dreadplate.
lusty grotto
in 3 weeks we get another 2 bullion quest btw
juneteenth
so we get a buy in 2 weeks, a buy in 3 weeks, and another buy in 4 weeks
im thinking by then everyone will have everything lmao
crystal iris
Well ya
violet ginkgo
Wait what event?
ancient crystal
urban portal
hero track
south zealot
currency
urban portal
not worth
gilded bear
Can I have your opinion please? I have mythic version of Enduring Dreadplate and Treemouth, also I already have both of rings (Fire shield and Fire damage one) and Gholak, and I have 2 Bullions, what your suggestion to spend this?
south zealot
Can I have your opinion please? I have mythic version of Enduring Dreadplate and...
anvil
gilded bear
I have mythic OCE and hero Puzle box for Arms, also I barely play DPS and I hate fury >_<
crystal iris
How much you think it worth it? And what about Rageheart?
@lusty grotto youre up
south zealot
wdym how much
its the best damage trinket
rageheart doesnt do good damage and its not good defensively theres no reason to buy it
crystal iris
I mean he already has dreadplates
crystal iris
if you were a pussy youd run treemouth + cheat
south zealot
run cheat and treemouth
gilded bear
I'm half pussy then kekw
south zealot
i think cheat is bait
crystal iris
cheat is literally a keysaver
south zealot
you can also press treemouths and just not die
every other pull
the entire dungeon
crystal iris
when I have tanks die in a key to a tank buster or something stupid and theyre wearing like an augury it pisses me off
south zealot
if you wanna run cheat thats fine but i just dont believe in it generally
gilded bear
What you are runnign choco?
south zealot
when I have tanks die in a key to a tank buster or something stupid and theyre w...
dps die with defensives up literally all the time
south zealot
What you are runnign choco?
anvil and dreadplates usually
sometimes i use dreadplates and treemouths splinter
gilded bear
you use that even when pugging?
crystal iris
dps die with defensives up literally all the time
DPS dying is different, not a key breaking moment usually
south zealot
you use that even when pugging?
yes
pallid quiver
dps die with defensives up literally all the time
But dps don't make mistakes, wy m?
south zealot
i use anvil when pugging more
only treemouths when im with gamers i know
and dont wanna look dumb
crystal iris
hahaha
south zealot
large
south zealot
what key was that
south zealot
the issue is monks do a shitton of aoe
same with druid dps specs
hard to know whats best to pad on lashers the longest
potent anvil
Yeah
crystal iris
does anvil do the thing where you cant use another on use for 30s?
south zealot
no
urban portal
its good
south zealot
i don’t actually know
urban portal
its good amount of strength
lusty grotto
its not that good
way underperforming
under magmammoth scale for M+
under puzzle box for ST
wayyyyyyy under
urban portal
narrow jay
Dreadplates worth it?
urban portal
dreadplates worth it
urban portal
yeah stat trinkets are pretty mid for damage for tanks
lusty grotto
yeah but defensively its not that great either
there's no argument to be made
theres just a lot of better options over call to chaos
way too many
narrow jay
is dreadplates worth the single target loss?
narrow jay
i have augury
lusty grotto
ok so are you looking for strictly an ST option?
then anvil
if youre looking at strictly a keys option, dreadplates
anvil works for both so it might be a better buy in your case
but again it depends on the content you want to use them on
which from what im getting at, seems to be raid
narrow jay
hmm kk thanks for the info ill prob get plates for now and swap in anvil for raids as i do more keys then raid these days
lusty grotto
not yet choco im recently out of a messy one
i need my me time
(:
but soonage
seeds planted, working the long term
narrow jay
WoW is the only GF we need
pallid quiver
i hate human beings, so you wouldn't ever see me getting that close to another person
narrow jay
whats the best sim to use for dungeons?
narrow jay
ah kk thanks i fucked up then i just send a sim on hectic add cleave lol
lusty grotto
signet and anvil wont sim correctly cause they dont reach full stacks until 5 mins in
unless raidbots finally adds a stack edit for those somehow
crystal iris
I've got to get used to treemouths vs rageheart
like I cant just pop it and forget about it while I pull ive got to use some other defensives or IPs
anvil is a lot of upkeep for like 6% of my damage in a key lol
narrow jay
why does rumbling ruby sim so high in aoe lol
narrow jay
Holy shit lol my item level 512 dreadplates just did 3 million damage to the target dummies in one press 😅
That's wild
Can't wait to get this to 528 and use it in keys
rigid hull
are garrosh shoulders hard to get?
lusty grotto
they are rare but
mop remix exists now
so it shouldnt be hard
just gotta kill garrosh for the pieces
on normal or higher
rigid hull
but i actually have to play right xd
its gonna be scaled?
i dont really know what panda remix is
lusty grotto
yes you have to play
pallid quiver
It's scaled to get utterly demolished in comparison to when panda was live
but still not quite farming on live
toxic pewter
Heroic and Mythic Garrosh still quite difficult unless your raid is like 400 ilvl / 450 ilvl respectively
and you really want some people with max ilvl in your raid to make it even easier
white umbra
Can anyone explain this immortal M+ build on wowhead? im not in game so i cant see how it differs from the regular build
warm plinth
Only thing I see is show of force, heavy repercussion, and bolster that's different
Idk if it's copying properly
south zealot
white umbra
anyone played around with this?
south zealot
yes ive used this loadout and similar but slightly modified versions
white umbra
the loss of shield charge seems a little off
white umbra
has the change to bsv gone to live?
toxic pewter
No mention of it being pushed to live servers has been made
south zealot
im not sure
i thought it was but nim checked my log and it looked like it was still fucked
pallid quiver
I'm wagering its activation is still fucked, but if the damage does bring you that low, it'll retroactively reduce damage
That's my bet
pallid quiver
and smold has stomped yet another heroic pug group for another char
not standing in fire puddles is very hard.
lusty grotto
what the fuck is going on here
its been 2 whole seasons since ive been on arthas
its literally spamming my chat
vestal moat
bsv
cinder marsh
ok so far i got the gholak, seal of diurnas chosen and the cata trinket. what should i prioritize in upgrading?
lusty grotto
gholak
shield > weapon > helm = chest = legs
= trinkets
and then everything else
thats your upgrade prio
south zealot
how does uldaman make people lose their mind
pallid quiver
The walls aren't up to modern safety code standard
Truck loads of asbestos and what-not
south zealot
i just dont know how i can be slowly dying over 20 seconds and not get dispelled once
on the brightside i got to do my new route
cinder nova
south zealot
@lusty grotto
1/1 so far
igira bracers and ghloak and im like
basically bis
besides like 3 hero track items but close enough
2/2
lusty grotto
<@131897531251556352>
lusty grotto
nice
my guild kinda
peaced out today
pugged 3 people, idk what they were thinkign these people did absolutely no dps
hard carried
south zealot
just like me
lusty grotto
mantequiya is my brother whos a rat
im not even doing great dps
so these people couldnt fucking figure it out on fyrakk
south zealot
i have less than 2k mastery wtf
south zealot
help him get gud
lusty grotto
and killed it after a long wait for heals
that lainner guy
was dying on every single boss
i swear to god he was expecting a carry
so anyway judging on how that search for heals went, idk if Mythic pugging is the call this week lmao
game seems dead
south zealot
soft
lusty grotto
deader than last week which is suprising
south zealot
first time fyrak should be chill right
south zealot
yeah
south zealot
prayge
lusty grotto
nah youll get it ez
south zealot
my ui
is so fried
i just installed a wa pack and it was in the EXACT center of my screen so i couldnt see anything
waxen frigate
i just installed a wa pack and it was in the EXACT center of my screen so i coul...
Let me guess liquid malware but you didn’t install the other malware (anchors) first
south zealot
yes lol
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
bro that liquid pack
is so ugly
i disabled modules as soon as we got prog kills done last season
cause i couldnt handle it
waxen frigate
I had to try to get it working tonight for alt guild stuff
It just… didn’t lmao
Gave me a lua error so I manually called my shit
lusty grotto
shit is wild
waxen frigate
Ya I just use that and the causese(?) cotank pack
I’m not involved with shot calling at all so idc about the Dps stuff
And idk what’s even different about my guilds version of northern sky tbh
void bramble
Hey all! Is the ourobeal neck a bad buy?
lusty grotto
it is if youre been gearing with the guides cause youll be lacking haste which you can make up for by having a big haste myth neck or even crafted
void bramble
The shield proc is pretty booty right?
void bramble
from the neck
lusty grotto
right
its the only myth 12/12 track neck sold by bullions so
but there are better for haste
void bramble
goes to 528?
lusty grotto
and like i mentioned haste starving will happen if you wear diurna and filial duty
yea
south zealot
Hey all! Is the ourobeal neck a bad buy?
yes it is bad
lusty grotto
thats the minimum max ilevel for bullion buys, they are all technically myth track
south zealot
bad stats for us and the proc is useless in like 99.99% of situations and even when it can be useful its not needed at all
void bramble
Not sure what to buy legs are 515 non tier and neck is 515
south zealot
so the proc effectively doesnt exist
south zealot
Not sure what to buy legs are 515 non tier and neck is 515
do u have myth track both rings trinkets weapon and shield
void bramble
Yes but my fillal duty ring is hero 522
so I could get 535 but
feel like not big of diff if I can upgrade elsewhere
south zealot
ooo so its upgrade filial or buy volcoross neck
it just has to be upgrade
unless ur missing something
lusty grotto
ig it only boils down to his trinkets
crystal iris
Buy vol cross neck? Jeez you really got everything you need ?
I guess it’s easier when you don’t play all 3 specs
Nim post that dreadplates damages for us
median tulip
what a shit vault
violet ginkgo
what a shit vault
Ukhel is nice for the fury I think
south zealot
myth gholak, shield, shoulders, bracers with socket all in one raid and i can buy filial duty
median tulip
sockets arent bad
I have full sockets already. I have had several terrible vaults this season
south zealot
okay thats pretty damn rough rip
proud silo
hero crystalized bulwark, awakened augury + rageheart, and hero seal of filial duty + circle of ascended frost are what i've got... should i spend my bullions on a shield, dreadplates or diurna's chosen?
median tulip
hero crystalized bulwark, awakened augury + rageheart, and hero seal of filial d...
Gholak
proud silo
gholak was my first buy 😩
median tulip
Diurna then
south zealot
yes
proud silo
gotcha, thank you!
fast orbit
just got a lfr gholak, should i bother buying the bullion or wait and get 2 other bullion items instead?
south zealot
its bad
rigid hull
sadge
south zealot
so close
rigid hull
i guess 4/4 myth shoulder?
south zealot
i guess 4/4 myth shoulder?
yes thats good
rigid hull
but ill have to get leg token
south zealot
can catalyze shoulders
ebon geyser
we open vault as dps correct
south zealot
depends what you need
ebon geyser
depends what you need
i need everything lol
south zealot
buy dreadplate, open as arms, craft a shield
depending on whats in vault buy another trinket or your other ring
ebon geyser
south zealot
is chest myth track
ebon geyser
ohh no, lol i have no frens so all is lfr and yes i know why ask then
south zealot
i would just take sockets probably
ebon geyser
ok
rigid hull
can catalyze shoulders
but legs are kinda better?
south zealot
legs are bad bc they have no haste
rigid hull
aight
south zealot
big upgrade
median tulip
we needed to rez these guys that kept dying
The kind of group that makes you wish for Manic Grieftorch
south zealot
true but it was like a 13 and i was pulling like a freak so its not surprising there were deaths'
median tulip
I don't mind deaths, but I object to stupid deaths
My last key before reset, just to fill vault; one guy died twice to the magmammoth's charge in Neltharus
AND he baited it across the whole room
jagged pier
well it will give u more shield than a normal ring
so not taking it is kinda troll
if u can
same with the damage ring doesnt do much but it does somthing more than a normal ring
rigid hull
ye
its just i want dreadplate
i dont wanna use fyrakk anym,ore xd
with bullion i mean
south zealot
nokhud 16
vocal cave
which of the 2?
jagged pier
jagged pier
no
rigid hull
okok
rigid hull
okay
dense verge
Is prot getting a rework?
jagged pier
as far as we know, no its not
median tulip
We don't really need a rework. We just need a bit more control and DH to be nerfed into the floor.
median tulip
All on the most common types and subject to DR
jagged pier
okay thats the same for 99% of classes in the game
VDH is the outlier that doesnt mean we have to change it means vdh has too
warrior - 2 stuns, 1 intuprt, 1 fear, (1 weird bad thing)
paladin - 1 stun, disorient which is a talent, aoe intuprt, 1 inturpt
bear - 1 stun, disorient, 1 intuprt, knockback vortex combo (never seen one use it)
bdk- 1 stun, 1 inturpt, 1 disorient, a grip maybe
all seem kinda equal to me with the same DR issues
🤷
violet ginkgo
We don't talk about monks
south zealot
warrior - 2 stuns, 1 intuprt, 1 fear, (1 weird bad thing)
paladin - 1 stun, diso...
tech 3 stuns if u wanna count shield charge
south zealot
control and utility is almost never the issue
south zealot
in 97.2% of situations, if you do the most damage you will be in the m+ group
unkempt hazel
its kinda funny that I changed to tauren and for 3~ weeks completely forgot to put stomp on bars LOL
south zealot
depending on how the season is
some seasons are really tight on timers and you need all the damage you can get
some seasons you just need to survive the key and timer is pretty free
south zealot
augs are brought bc timers arent super tight so if u just live you win
leaden shard
<a:chatting:1036769769543704576>
unkempt hazel
so wait if u stun a target too often it gets eventually immune right
or just reduced time
dense verge
as far as we know, no its not
Ta! I liked it but as the xpac went on I wasn't a fan
leaden shard
so wait if u stun a target too often it gets eventually immune right
Immune after 3 stuns within 16 or 24 seconds or so of the last stun, cant remember which
jagged pier
poor monks left out again
community forgot about monks
but what they got knockback, stun, incap, intuprt
so around the same stuff
unkempt hazel
ye ye
jagged pier
with the same DR issues
unkempt hazel
just found it amusing u left them out
oh so it doesn't matter if its a stun or knockback
jagged pier
well usually no one trys to compare to monk
its ither paladin bdk or vdh
or sometimes its wawrrior has no control
and then they compare against all the tanks
so its 5 vs 1
south zealot
ppl say warrior has no utility and then just not talent intimidating shout
unkempt hazel
stuns arent utility bro /s
south zealot
also speaking of utility, intervene magic damage shield in tww could be pretty nuts
leaden shard
Fun wise atleast warr can reflect for 6m, so warr wins
unkempt hazel
😔
leaden shard
u can just barely take it
Just drop sidearm and snooze
unkempt hazel
Ta! I liked it but as the xpac went on I wasn't a fan
ngl im the opposite, wasnt a fan of pwar (not even sure why)
leaden shard
3-4m damage for intervene
unkempt hazel
but lately its growin on me
leaden shard
ngl im the opposite, wasnt a fan of pwar (not even sure why)
It was the one tank i had the least interest in, after playing all other tanks, i only have interest in pwarr and guardian if pwarr is deadge entirely
unkempt hazel
I dont think I dislike any tank anymore
except dh didnt try them yet
blood is has its charms, like the simplicity of guardian
leaden shard
I love monk but i actually can’t enjoy 19 different buttons to use on ST, especially when pwarr exists for big shield slams
unkempt hazel
pala kinda feel good, minus concecrate kek
south zealot
i like brew too its just really hard
south zealot
atleast for me its hard
unkempt hazel
unkempt hazel
I love monk but i actually can’t enjoy 19 different buttons to use on ST, especi...
it pretty much removes this problem
so I can enjoy it
leaden shard
But theres still no 500k shield slams
leaden shard
And what could be more fun than looking at a dead party member and going ‘lol run back bozo’
unkempt hazel
dude
so I was trying out blood for the first time
didnt check who I was joining
the healer host was like 400 ilvl
bro died every pack
as blood obviously it wasn't an issue but the dps did not find it amusing
leaden shard
poor healer
unkempt hazel
o no
jagged pier
and died every pull
unkempt hazel
bro was CONFIDENT
jagged pier
and when i said i was going because this was a waste of time
leaden shard
I tried blood this season, i got one shot on umbrelskul by dragonstrike while i had tombstone and vamp blood up, said down discord ‘yeah im just going back to warr to deflect that shit fuck this tank’
jagged pier
okay bro that doesnt stop u dying and me having to kite every pack after i put up flame shock becausae u cant hold aggro
leaden shard
Go pick some herbs and buy 451 gear ty
south zealot
i could get 2.9 as healer in 2 weeks if i wanted to
trying to flex that on ppl
when youre trolling
is just so weird
jagged pier
can literally buy greens of the AH for like 100g and he would have been fine
south zealot
yeah i just have no idea how to heal and im mostly stupid
so idk if i need like 3-4 weeks instead
unkempt hazel
ong
went to tank NO for the first time
pulled 2 packs at the start and everyone but me died
unkempt hazel
yeah i just have no idea how to heal and im mostly stupid
tbf this season all u do is top ppl off innit
anything else is defensive usage issue
blazing condor
😳
unkempt hazel
dog no 
dense verge
pulled 2 packs at the start and everyone but me died
I always thought you double pulled at start, hero on fort weeks.......do we not anymore lol
dense verge
Ohhhhh fuck
south zealot
I always thought you double pulled at start, hero on fort weeks.......do we not ...
every time i do this and tell my group to knock the archers in
they just dont do it
so the pack takes longer than if they were separate
dense verge
Done it a few times and folks just dying
Gave up
Now I get yelled at for splitting
south zealot
dungeon is super free on time doesn’t matter anyway
radiant mortar
but huge mdi pulls must be played or how can the DPS flex their numbers???
jagged pier
leaden shard
dungeon is super free on time doesn’t matter anyway
We had our healer dc for 13 minutes and we still ++ a 12
unkempt hazel
the passive is nothing to write home about
median tulip
If you have enough Haste elsewhere then it's fine, but the actual amount of absorb is pretty minimal
But with Seal of Diurna's Chosen taking up a ring slot (no Haste) it's harder to get really good Haste rating this season, so Necklace is one of the slots you really want at least 50% Haste rating on
unkempt hazel
its small amount and situational
if the content has no nature dmg the pasive doesn't exist
median tulip
Yeah, and we don't deal Nature damage to get the (more useful) Fire Shield
median tulip
That said there is (I think) nature damage in AA, BHH, Ulda, HoI and RLP
median tulip
All Stats Matter
blazing condor
ask @ionic fern
median tulip
If you have the Haste elsewhere then it's fine
rigid hull
@ionic fern sir
ionic fern
Hello.
median tulip
But I wouldn't say that it was amazing
ionic fern
The baseprofile in SIMC had a TON of haste already.
Putting more stats into Vers/crit provided more DPS value for that specific profile.
Hense the neck.
rigid hull
i see
ionic fern
Always sim yourself for your specific upgrades.
median tulip
BiS is a lie
ionic fern
Haste/Crit necks etc.
ionic fern
BiS is a lie
Bis list is a "vacuum" due to how stats work.
violet ginkgo
Mwahi, any tips for the bleed adds after bromach boss at uld? Do we must chain cc?
median tulip
Personally I have a Lariat with Haste/Crit and gems to make it proc Haste
violet ginkgo
Just run away with back shown? I tried to just press S so I still face front but still get bleed.
ionic fern
Ideally not your back turned.
I'm pretty sure those guys can be slowed/stunned etc.
ionic fern
Personally I have a Lariat with Haste/Crit and gems to make it proc Haste
Jep.
I'm running that crit/vers one, but that's due to having 0 neck RNG
Maybe need to craft one as well.
rigid hull
Personally I have a Lariat with Haste/Crit and gems to make it proc Haste
what about shadowlfame eblishment
median tulip
what about shadowlfame eblishment
I have one of those; the Lariat and the second SF embelish sim within margin of error
one of them is marginally ahead on ST, the other on MT. I can't honestly remember which is which.
strong forum
Looks pretty decent yeah
rigid hull
unkempt hazel
nice splinter
unkempt hazel
big
strong forum
nah
rigid hull
alright
lament flower
those are rookie haste numbers 😛
analog lantern
with the seal of filial duty (and the other one ofc), how do we get it to proc?
Is it only if we have gholak?
waxen frigate
Gholak, shadowflame patch, helm enchant
stiff wagon
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Is crafted gear with embellishments better than a normal 528 iLvl gear?
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Is "Shadowflame-Tempered Armor Patch" better than Elemental Lariat and Allied Wrist Guard of companionship?
blazing condor
Crafted gear per se isnt better, but you want to use 2x embellishments
Cus the embellishments are better than the ilvl
stiff wagon
@blazing condor Okay so the embellishments is what makes the crafted gear better than your normal 528 gear.
What would you recommend for crafted gear?
Fyi, I mostly run mythics.
mellow bridge
2xshadowflame
either on your current weakest slots or long-term on slots that provide the least amount of stats, e.g. cloak and wrists
tawdry dirge
is it worth to buy a shield from dinars?
crystal mauve
is it worth to buy a shield from dinars?
Any heroic shield from keys should be fine until you have enough dinars to just buy a mythic shield. It really depends on what you’ve been able to get so far on keys/raid
crystal mauve
Any heroic shield from keys should be fine until you have enough dinars to just ...
Bullion not dinar sorry
tawdry dirge
yeh its atm min maxing
crystal mauve
Id it’s the only upgrade you can get then sure I guess 🙂
jagged pier
then u dont buy a shield if your are minmaxing
rich wyvern
is it worth to buy a shield from dinars?
if you have the ring(s), good trinkets and gholak
why not right
crystal mauve
if you have the ring(s), good trinkets and gholak
And if you shield is meh
pallid quiver
You can also throw your hat into the ring for gnarl myth shield
should theoretically be easy enough to pug
tawdry dirge
good call thought ye
crystal mauve
You can also throw your hat into the ring for gnarl myth shield
Got it this week - gg move
pallid quiver
But if you have all the trinkets on myth track you need/want already, have all the weapons
then like
might as well unless you want cosmetics
rich wyvern
^
tawdry dirge
is grieftorch anything we want
pallid quiver
Like the main trinks to look for are Manic, Dreadplates, Anvil (and treemouth, but you can't buy that), then there's Gholak, and both raid rings
tawdry dirge
i see many running it
crystal mauve
To be fair Tmogs are BIS long term anyway, still use then a few xpack later 😜
pallid quiver
One of the best damage trinkets
rich wyvern
is grieftorch anything we want
it's the biggest burst damage you're gonna get on a trinket
pallid quiver
Gets even better if your raid happens to die (or you kill them)
rich wyvern
ye^ it's better than it sims
pallid quiver
You probably rock by default Grief + Anvil in raid and dreadplates + anvil in M+
Dreadplates + Treemouth if you need more comfy/don't want to play anvil minigame
Other random ideas are OCE/Icon if you're trying to help a friend parse and they benefit from that, I guess?
but yeah, if you have all those and still need a myth shield and don't want cosmetics,
fuck it send it i guess
tawdry dirge
grief it is for raids i guess then
cause hard to get it anyways vs the other dpsers
crystal mauve
Grief torch is also a bit difficult to use in M+ since you can’t block while you channel, not everyone likes it
grim pilot
@south zealot AA time
fast edge
Anyone know if enduring dreadplate is capped at 5 targets per beam?
It doesn't say anything about it in the tooltip
jagged pier
yes
dusky canopy
@lusty grotto GM friend, curious if theres a WA that tracks all the remix daily tasks like tamas in retail?
pallid quiver
today i have learned there's invisible floors at part of the way down leading to umbrel last boss in azure vault
at least i didn't die from the second fall
blazing condor
When you jump from the third boss?
pallid quiver
Yeah
I jump down and leap to stop fall damage to make it easier to manage anvil
since i can just hit it on the way down
rigid hull
can i make a custom tabard?
pallid quiver
but today i stopped in midair
pallid quiver
can i make a custom tabard?
It's the guild design ones, but you have to do the Dracthyr person's visage quest thing to unlock it
Which also requires you to have done a bunch of questlines throughout the isles
pallid quiver
isn't the one you can buy for like a bajillion gold black and gold?
toxic pewter
Midnight tabard that was on the trading post a bit ago is pretty good
waxen frigate
^
stiff wagon
either on your current weakest slots or long-term on slots that provide the leas...
Thanks Muyuu!
stiff wagon
Dreadplates + Treemouth if you need more comfy/don't want to play anvil minigame
How about Dread and Tainted Rageheart?
mellow bridge
defensively rageheart is just worse than splinter
but also you really dont need two defensive trinkets
just 1 is enough
plush tendon
also think it matters what key level your doing; like splinter aint really needed until you doing some big boi push keys
would rather use Dread and like All-Totem or anvil
if ya doing weekly keys or dabbling in some 15/16
undone beacon
Dread+All-Totem has been treating me very well
toxic pewter
I love all-totem, just wish it was more viable in raids and not just m+
strong forum
toxic pewter
like wish they just tied it to something other than parry
pallid quiver
"7.3k haste"
that's more than double what i have
strong forum
pallid quiver
that proc would just straight inject every kind of drug imaginable into my system
strong forum
this armor buff
increases armor by 50%
and that gets translated into str
its a 1.4k strength buff
holy fuck
pallid quiver
simply equip a new gear piece
strong forum
so to summarize
strong forum
a 528 all-totem grants you:
- Air: 7.3k haste, aka 40% for 10 seconds
- Earth: 25k armor, aka 1.4k strength for 10 seconds
- Ice: 93k hps hot for 8 seconds
- Fire: Uncapped aoe dot on all targets infront of you for 6 seconds
rotating from Earth -> Fire -> Ice -> Air -> Earth
heavy swift
time to move it to S+
blazing condor
How much dps does it give you in a key
undone beacon
The totem itself typically ends up in the 5%-7% for me, but thats not including the damage that comes from more str/haste on Air and Earth
It basically procs on CD which is great
strong forum
oaky so
the armor
is actually 37k armor
because of our armor multiplier talents
toxic pewter
wow
undone beacon
dang i hate having to carry these dang evokers smh
violet ginkgo
a 528 all-totem grants you:
- Air: 7.3k haste, aka 40% for 10 seconds
- Earth: 2...
if we have around 6400 haste already that 7,3k won't be translated into 40% right?
vocal cave
what do you guys set your OCE to ?
violet ginkgo
haste but we don't really use OCE
in case you wonder there is a pinned post by mwahi
vocal cave
these are my avaliable options
lament musk
i need to sim what gives me the most dps cause i dont seem to be getting much value from my eranog ring atm
got no sfp
lament musk
rageheart would be super consistent wouldnt it
but maybe siggy brand?
i should just sim it
violet ginkgo
siggy brand I guess, rageheart is a bad buy
jagged pier
aug
lament musk
gholak maybe from raid today
jagged pier
all better than rageheart
lament musk
is aug proccing it now
strong forum
if we have around 6400 haste already that 7,3k won't be translated into 40% righ...
ITF
jagged pier
greiftorch for bants
lament musk
cause we talked about augury not proccing it for whatever reason recently
jagged pier
i mean damage from the ring isnt something we care much about its just extra damage
violet ginkgo
ah Nome and Jakey is here, time to ask question.
So uh... for tindral, initial pull I don't instantly pop the avatar and other skill to burst, I waited for the root cast to appear before popping everything to damage the roots, am I crazy for doing that as tank?
lament musk
ya im prolly just spoiled from having free procs from leggo dot
jagged pier
yes because roots die anyway
on hc they are gone before you get going on them
and on mythic the flyers kill them anyway
violet ginkgo
hmmm I was thinking to help kill roots but if insignificant then I'll just burst early next time.
pallid quiver
but if the group leaves them alive, the pad
pallid quiver
The pad, Jakey
it's the thing that determines people's entire mental states
They gotta hit the big boy 150k DPS
But the roots really shouldn't be alive, considering you can kill them with, uh,
blessing of freedom
violet ginkgo
cause we talked about augury not proccing it for whatever reason recently
At least this is for me Crit. Anvil+Brand the highest.
also glad to see crit asking here means more protcake content.
lament musk
ye i definitely want brand, it sims crazy high for all 3 specs
lament musk
and i think i can make use of it in keys too, easy enough extend especially as the tank
stiff wagon
@plush tendon @undone beacon , man. I wish I asked for could've gotten Dread and + All-Totem... 😐
lament musk
violet ginkgo
you wish you got anvil, mojo
lament musk
current is 230k with my 522 forgestorm
stiff wagon
you wish you got anvil, mojo
Hmm, how come not Brand?
Okay so I should get Anvil after
violet ginkgo
and i think i can make use of it in keys too, easy enough extend especially as t...
anvil is easy since you got "chance" to refresh buff.. brand is... prepare your worn doll. Sometimes there is unavoidable scene like Azure's vault book transform/jump from first ring to down, or Nokhud flying, or your teammate die and have to be ressurected.
oblique garnet
anvil is easy since you got "chance" to refresh buff.. brand is... prepare your ...
Just dont wait for your teammates someone will cr 
stiff wagon
So would you say Rageheart and Anvil are fine for mythics though? o0
lament musk
yeee i've been blasting as prot
stiff wagon
dreadplate/anvil
Well, I mean I already have rageheart v.v so just wanted to know fthe time being if that will do
lament musk
been unethical so far without shockwave tho, will change it up eventually
oblique garnet
been unethical so far without shockwave tho, will change it up eventually
even i didnt grief my team that much
lament musk
dpsbrain is too strong
oblique garnet
dpsbrain is too strong
Can pull bigger when you have shockwave 8)