protection

[south zealot]

was a 10 aa

[smoky pollen]

Well. Shit.

[strong forum]

you played bloodborne

[radiant mortar]

wdym, signet is passive Anvil I have to use brainpower for

[strong forum]

not rly?

you just send anvil on CD

[lusty grotto]

kinda stinky vaults all around, myth tier at least (:

[strong forum]

every 1 minute

[pallid quiver]

I have to use more brain power for signet tbh

[strong forum]

yeah

[pallid quiver]

Because I have to really make sure stacks no droppy

[strong forum]

signet requires more attentiveness to keep up the stacks in m+

anvil is easier to maintain because it has its on-use

[pallid quiver]

can't wait to get an anvil to replace this signet

[strong forum]

you can re-extend the buff with using the trinket outside of combat

also anvil is more fun

cuz it crits for almost 700k

whereas signet is just a dot

[pallid quiver]

it also makes the funny clang sound

[blazing condor]

what crests are used now for crafting

[strong forum]

this was anvil on vexamus

big pump

[rigid hull]

time to turn on sounds

[strong forum]

did almost do 200k ST

[radiant mortar]

ok made good pints will go with anvil but will build a WA that blasts my ears to remember pressing it

[rigid hull]

ok im getting this fuck it

[strong forum]

good choice

[rigid hull]

wait until i ask this question tommorow

[lusty grotto]

wdym dog

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/pcLWSxmq0

make your life easier

and get this

[radiant mortar]

🫡

[strong forum]

cuz way too many people out there not tracking their trinkets properly

[blazing condor]

idk how crafting works this tier

[lusty grotto]

same as last tier

[strong forum]

those are very small icons, so you gotta resize them to your liking

but yeah.

[lusty grotto]

just swap the spark

[radiant mortar]

will it meow into my ear so I remember pressing ot?

[strong forum]

no

[blazing condor]

oh yeah

[strong forum]

it wont make sounds

[blazing condor]

i forgor

[strong forum]

its just a simple CD tracker

for when you have an on-use trinket equipped

[blazing condor]

but is it still dreaming then or whats it called

[lusty grotto]

buy one of these, make an an ench order

[radiant mortar]

ok can add it to make it better

[strong forum]

the number above shows which trinket slot it is in

[blazing condor]

thanks nim

[strong forum]

no problem dog

[lusty grotto]

😮

[radiant mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/bornskywalker-dap-me-up-woody-woody-handshake-woody-toy-story-gif-26021440

[deft hinge]

wishlist, prot warr mog looking like this

[waxen frigate]

@jagged pier went to Filipino market, review inbound later

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

[dusky canopy]

[waxen frigate]

I’m having some spaghetti bolognese from HEB for lunch tho

[jagged pier]

[waxen frigate]

Pretty pog for a $5 microwave meal

This tastes like Olive Garden quality which is more than I expected

But also it might unironically be less preprocessed than Olive Garden

[plush tendon]

ive been making italian sausage and spaghetti as my broke boi meal

[vestal moat]

I went to a wedding last month catered by the Olive Garden. Probably the best wedding food experience i have ever had.

[plush tendon]

Spaghetti is dirt cheap and I can get 3 six packs of Sausage for $10 bucks

[waxen frigate]

As someone who gets a lot of anxiety from cooking I think these HEB meals might become my go-to for work lunches

[plush tendon]

Ive been making rice triangles

[waxen frigate]

Jelly donuts

[plush tendon]

a little beef inside

and rice is dirt cheap

plus, at least where I work in Boston, theres a huge Asian community so I can grab stuff from there

next thing I want to get comfortable making is Chilli

Chilli and Rice would be a monster meal

[knotty stump]

What trinket would you guys pair the dreadplate with for M+?

for say 10's

[jagged pier]

Anvil

Signet

Greif

Spin the wheel

Have fun

[knotty stump]

lol, I'll roll the dice, thanks

[quaint rune]

no one mentions the hidden effect of grief

[violet ginkgo]

Bullion can be drop from M+ too right?

or from raid only?

[quaint rune]

"thanks for the grief reset"

[jagged pier]

Lfr val just do lfr

[knotty stump]

I've never used grief, I may try that

[violet ginkgo]

I just killed 5 lfr boss, no drop, I start to get scary if bugged

[knotty stump]

I just got one on first boss kill, probably just rng

[jagged pier]

It will drop from a boss each week

U just need to get lucky

[waxen frigate]

It’s not bugged

People said it was bugged last week and it wasn’t lmao

[jagged pier]

Ppl just expect it onntheir first kill

[waxen frigate]

^

Took one of my guildies 13 bosses last week

We did full heroic, first 4 mythic

He got it on M Council

[toxic pewter]

wat every1 buy with their bullion

[knotty stump]

I grabbed a trinket

[waxen frigate]

Lamborghini Aventador

[toxic pewter]

which 1

[toxic pewter]

lmao

[knotty stump]

Grieftorch

[toxic pewter]

just iamgined u cruisin around elwynn in ur new lambo

[waxen frigate]

Won’t have to imagine it much longer

It’s gonna be real

[toxic pewter]

XD

[waxen frigate]

I’m going to get noise complaints

I’m not going to pay them

[knotty stump]

Does casting abilities cancel the greiftorch cast?

[silk ether]

IIRC from s1 it does

it's a channel so

[waxen frigate]

Yes

[grim pilot]

had same

pepega

[fossil cloud]

Hi someone can help me with a question ? If I have two patches I can equip the ring that is purchased with the ingots

https://murlok.io/warrior/fury/mm+

this

[toxic pewter]

guys check how cute i am

LOL

[jagged pier]

Its fucking awesome

Tkme to pay bliz

Instead of them giving it too us as a reward for somthing

Imma just swipe

[torn gulch]

might get it with gold

what's that like 2 tokens?

[toxic pewter]

like 1 .33 tokensish

[waxen frigate]

Hope you die ingame

[toxic pewter]

LOL

[torn gulch]

[waxen frigate]

Wasn’t this our blizzcon reward

[toxic pewter]

dunno I know that yeti one was from blizzcon

wish i had that

[south zealot]

wait thats a bis mog

etf

dude

how much is that shit

[torn gulch]

20

[toxic pewter]

$20 LOL

[south zealot]

fuck

[toxic pewter]

i used gold yolo

[south zealot]

dude if i wasnt experiencing poverty id def buy it

that on a panda is turbo bis

[toxic pewter]

omg

[torn gulch]

we're getting that sweet crafting gold to pay for it

[toxic pewter]

gonna break out the recalibrator and see it on all races

[waxen frigate]

Give me a 1000-word story (at least) that clearly isn’t written by AI about your escapades as a pandaren warrior in a murloc onesie

[toxic pewter]

that wat i doing during remix panda warr in murloc onesie

[south zealot]

insane

[south zealot]

no

[toxic pewter]

XD

[south zealot]

:3

[sick sentinel]

In the tranquil valleys of Pandaria, where the mists enveloped the landscape like a protective shroud, there lived a pandaren warrior named Li Chen. Li Chen was unlike any other pandaren; he possessed a spirit filled with wanderlust and a heart brimming with courage. But what truly set him apart was his peculiar attire—a murloc onesie.

Now, you might wonder why a fearsome warrior like Li Chen would choose to wear such an eccentric outfit. The truth was, Li Chen had a mischievous side and enjoyed surprising his foes with unexpected appearances. Plus, the onesie was surprisingly comfortable and provided excellent mobility in battle.

One crisp morning, as the sun began its ascent over the mountains, Li Chen found himself drawn to the distant murmur of waves crashing against the shore. Curiosity piqued, he decided to embark on an adventure to explore the coastline, clad in his trusty murloc onesie.

Venturing through lush bamboo groves and winding pathways, Li Chen eventually reached the edge of a cliff, overlooking a vast expanse of ocean. The salty breeze tousled his fur as he gazed out at the horizon, feeling the call of the sea deep within his soul.

But his moment of tranquility was abruptly interrupted by a commotion below. Peering over the cliff, Li Chen spotted a group of unsuspecting villagers being accosted by a band of marauding murlocs. Without hesitation, he leaped into action, his onesie billowing behind him like a cape.

With lightning-fast reflexes, Li Chen descended upon the startled murlocs, wielding his staff with precision and grace. Though his appearance was comical, his combat skills were anything but. With each strike, he sent the murlocs tumbling back into the frothy waves, their high-pitched cries echoing across the shoreline.

The villagers watched in awe as the pandaren warrior single-handedly drove off their attackers, his murloc onesie a beacon of hope amidst the chaos. Grateful for his bravery, they invited Li Chen to join them for a feas

No nitro

[toxic pewter]

thats a lot more than 100 words LOL

[waxen frigate]

That looks absurdly ai generated and also you’re not Choco

[toxic pewter]

oh 1000 i misread

[sick sentinel]

You said 1000

[toxic pewter]

lol

[sick sentinel]

It was over 1000

[south zealot]

this was written by me and isnt ai

In the tranquil valleys of Pandaria, where the mists enveloped the landscape like a protective shroud, there lived a pandaren warrior named Li Chen. Li Chen was unlike any other pandaren; he possessed a spirit filled with wanderlust and a heart brimming with courage. But what truly set him apart was his peculiar attire—a murloc onesie.

Now, you might wonder why a fearsome warrior like Li Chen would choose to wear such an eccentric outfit. The truth was, Li Chen had a mischievous side and enjoyed surprising his foes with unexpected appearances. Plus, the onesie was surprisingly comfortable and provided excellent mobility in battle.

One crisp morning, as the sun began its ascent over the mountains, Li Chen found himself drawn to the distant murmur of waves crashing against the shore. Curiosity piqued, he decided to embark on an adventure to explore the coastline, clad in his trusty murloc onesie.

Venturing through lush bamboo groves and winding pathways, Li Chen eventually reached the edge of a cliff, overlooking a vast expanse of ocean. The salty breeze tousled his fur as he gazed out at the horizon, feeling the call of the sea deep within his soul.

But his moment of tranquility was abruptly interrupted by a commotion below. Peering over the cliff, Li Chen spotted a group of unsuspecting villagers being accosted by a band of marauding murlocs. Without hesitation, he leaped into action, his onesie billowing behind him like a cape.

With lightning-fast reflexes, Li Chen descended upon the startled murlocs, wielding his staff with precision and grace. Though his appearance was comical, his combat skills were anything but. With each strike, he sent the murlocs tumbling back into the frothy waves, their high-pitched cries echoing across the shoreline.

The villagers watched in awe as the pandaren warrior single-handedly drove off their attackers, his murloc onesie a beacon of hope amidst the chaos. Grateful for his bravery, they invited Li Chen to join them for a feas

[torn gulch]

:))))))))))))))))

[waxen frigate]

[sick sentinel]

Bro copied me

[jagged pier]

my adventurer tmog is going

but now i have murloc

[waxen frigate]

Holy crap

This is based

I think maybe you should try a different sword

There was a good one on trading post a few months ago

Chipped something

Also I think maybe the plunderstorm gloves would be good

[rigid hull]

whats wrong with raidbots sim

it doesnt have anvil on "seaosn 4 vendor"

for prot war

[hoary bough]

is the fire shield ring noticeable on a prot war? like does it proc a lot and do a fair bit of healing?

[jagged pier]

the only one from tpost i got was this one and i liked the other one

but tmog is subjective

[waxen frigate]

I think the issue is it’s giga low res

[waxen frigate]

Yes beyond the acceptance my opinions are fact

[jagged pier]

u dont really notice it when playing tbh

[waxen frigate]

I think low res is fine that one is just really bright

One of my favorite 2 handers is the berserking blade

(Berserkers blade? Idk the exact syntax)

[waxen frigate]

Bis tpost strat is scroll to bottom, but the stuff for 100 or less

[sick sentinel]

They should remaster all the old tmogs

[waxen frigate]

It’s consistently good

[waxen frigate]

That’s basically what the low end of the tpost is

It’s old school/low fantasy mogs

For dirt cheap

[sick sentinel]

But people have old tmogs that look low res just upscale remaster them

[waxen frigate]

These are a mix of mostly leveling gear and trading post items that cost under 100 tendies

[silk ether]

hello, new to tanking and with a somewhat stupid question. Why does nobody ever take the double shield wall and avatar/shield wall talents in m+? is it not worth it on fights like the second boss in RLP or crawth where it wouldn't be up every time?

[waxen frigate]

The rage and CDR is much better for the most part

[south zealot]

double shield wall is less shield wall uptime

[jagged pier]

I mean if ppl dont use fish with murloc costume they arent playing the game

[south zealot]

the avatar shield wall does have use in keys your damage does not mean anything to timing the key

[radiant mortar]

Is this https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6afw7Ff5jxA6qkx3dq25Hk sim wrong?

[south zealot]

like a nelths lair

[hoary bough]

i love the first one

[waxen frigate]

Ty it’s my main mog when I’m arms

[torn gulch]

playing correctly you'll have bigger SW uptime on cdr talent
and on those bosses you specify you just rotate defensives we don't only have SW

[hoary bough]

looks doooope

where's the chestpiece from?

[waxen frigate]

It’s a mix of like 3 trading post sets, 2 pieces of exiles reach leveling gear, and then some random ass bracers from like cata quests or something

[waxen frigate]

Trading post earlier this year

Same with legs

[hoary bough]

shiiit, gotta wait then rip

[waxen frigate]

Yeah it’s the solemn watchman set iirc

That’s chest/legs

[silk ether]

so is the better SW uptime an overall dungeon thing or also on individual boss fights?

[waxen frigate]

Hood/cape are from trading post last month or month before

[waxen frigate]

It depends

Can’t just answer that with a yes or no for all situations

[torn gulch]

on higher keys on crawth bleed or second boss rlp bleed you can go in DS only for the duration of the bleed and combined with demo shout you already have decent base dr

[south zealot]

shield wall is a minute cd with the wall

is it called the wall anymore

[silk ether]

I'm a bit of a coward because I haven't tanked in a minute so tend to overcommit on defensives

[waxen frigate]

Pwarr hp bar barely ever moves

If it does move you just use one of many defensives

[silk ether]

even on non-reflectable tank busters?

[waxen frigate]

But remember you have a literal free 20% DR

from dstance

With zero cooldown

[torn gulch]

dstance+demos shout

and you are set

[silk ether]

appreciate it, thank you guys

[torn gulch]

for a lot of things

and you have demo shout every 25-ish s with thunderlord

30 ish in ST

[silk ether]

so given all of this, is it worth getting rageheart at all from the bullions or is vakash such a massive difference?

[torn gulch]

there are better than rageheart

dreadplates is one, treemouth is another

[silk ether]

so it's not really worth going for defensive trinket options

[torn gulch]

dreadplates is a defensive and offensive trinket at the same time

[violet ginkgo]

dreadplates it is then

[torn gulch]

treemouth is a pure defensive trinket with main stat

rageheart is a decent choice

but there are better

[silk ether]

ok so from the bullion vendor it'd be dreadplate > rageheart

no love for grieftorch?

[south zealot]

grieftorch is good for damage

[hoary bough]

i went vakash -> dreadplate -> eranog ring

grieftorch good for m+ dmg? you can't block with it up, right?

[crystal sierra]

super torn on my bullion this week, ive got gholak and the fire ring, also have a heroic treemouth, i just dont know how dreadplates compares defensively, it also does damage so maybe that's better? i doubt double on use is the play, unless it is

[south zealot]

the double on use is probably the best defensive combo you can run

[south zealot]

yes and yes

theres better options though so its mostly for content where people are dying

or maybe shorter raid bosses where you wont get full value from signet brand

[crystal sierra]

is double defensive trinket needed? could also farm for the dawn cheat death

[south zealot]

only if you feel like it is

[hoary bough]

makes sense, ty

[crystal sierra]

havent needed thus far, but i've only pushed 13's so far

[hoary bough]

i really love dreadplate, since it's good offensively too and feels like 15s immortality

[south zealot]

dreadplates is a really strong offensive key as well

[hoary bough]

i run splinter too because i'm lazy

[crystal sierra]

thats my thinking

[south zealot]

trinket not key

[crystal sierra]

the 600k hit from treemouth kinda hurts sometimes

er 400k

[hoary bough]

and also i fkn love having so many defensive buttons, it's actually insane how many buttons you have to fall back on when you run dreadplate/splinter

[crystal sierra]

hm not a bad idea

[hoary bough]

if you're like me, and you're prone to being distracted by the slightest breeze, having a billion defensives to call on is real nice

[crystal sierra]

lol it does happen on occasion when coms are going nuts

im rocking a ursine vengeance too, and it does seem to do well

[south zealot]

yeah its pretty good

[crystal sierra]

i saw that diurns ring is pretty far down, id guess its the secondaries kinda killing it for prot

or the shield just isn't great as a tank

[hoary bough]

when an incorp is getting dicey and you're not sure if you've gotta stormbolt because the mage is on cloud cuckoo land

i make mistakes like crazy

[south zealot]

its a good ring

theres just higher prio items

sure the shield can be nice but a lot of the time itll just shield damage you would heal through anyways with leech

or just passive hots from healer

or indomitable

[crystal sierra]

ah yeah

[south zealot]

also its like diurnas ring or a 15-20k dps trinket

[hoary bough]

wondering what i should get next, is fyrakk's heart decent for dmg? thinking of it as a dmg alternative to splinter

[violet ginkgo]

dreadplate if you want damage

[south zealot]

its solid damage but no mainstat brings it down

idk how it compares to splinters damage

but you could sim it and see

[torn gulch]

a 535 rageheart does around 7% of my damage

[hoary bough]

ahh, hrmmm, will do, might be a 2nd fire ring angle if so

[torn gulch]

it's ok damage wise

[south zealot]

it could be a decent damage and defensive option

but im just not sure how splinter is

[hoary bough]

ye will sim, the trinket sounds cool by the tooltip

[dense cairn]

Does anyone else have issues with Shield Charge sometimes doing nothing and still going on CD?

[plush tendon]

Splinter is a pure defense trinket and its the best of the bunch in that roll; depending on key level though, it is probably overkill

and it provides no real offensive value

[south zealot]

dont use it while charging

[plush tendon]

Rageheart and Dreadplate are both viable alternatives

[hoary bough]

does rageheart have a cool visual effect or is it just general shit you don't notice?

i love the dreadplate rays of death, reminds me of twilight dev

[south zealot]

esvept when it visuals bugs

except

and goes the wrong way

[hoary bough]

dreadplate? i haven't noticed that yet lmao

[south zealot]

happens to me all tbe time

still doing full danage

[toxic pewter]

why dudes still attacking mobs before they fully gathered

will this happen until end of time

[hoary bough]

you see, i'm the kinda tank who is like "jfc bro let me gather them before u burst"

then i log my frost mage

and open with a glacial spike

[toxic pewter]

i guess I just dont get it

this been happening for 2 decades

[hoary bough]

it's the wow equivalent of premature ejaculation

you're desperate to just blast, no patience

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/peaky-blinders-no-fighting-no-fucking-fighting-fight-fuck-gif-16259749058826278291

^ tanks when trying to group

[hoary bough]

tbf, mages and priests have invis/fade for a reason

[prisma crane]

just give evokers and DHs tricks

[hoary bough]

true and real

also monks

[prisma crane]

havent played with many, they burst big?

tbh my ele sham can randomly just machine gun procs and pull too

but there's at least a bit of setup so its not too bad

and im shit on it

[plush tendon]

I wanted them to rework Shadow Meld so it dropped threat

so it stops breaking the game

[hoary bough]

shadowmeld as threat drop would be great

and monks aren't as bad as evokers, from my experience, but they do seem to be the pugs most inclined to blow their load 2s into the pull

[lusty grotto]

ima need u for tips when i make my mop dk

[plush tendon]

[lusty grotto]

where are you seeing this

cause its #2 in the pinned list

and in case you didnt know #2 isnt "far down"

[plush tendon]

hes talking bout the broodkeeper ring

not Eggnog

[lusty grotto]

filial duty?

oh

[plush tendon]

Broodkeeper's name is Duirna

[lusty grotto]

i guess that makes sense

yeah i know

[limpid ruin]

Ya well my tank doesn’t call it that

[prisma crane]

love that name for him

[south zealot]

diurna ring is eranog diurnas ring is diurna

[lusty grotto]

yes

all y es

[plush tendon]

[potent anvil]

My prot warr is rising

[lusty grotto]

u need more revenge

but youre always top in my book (:

[undone beacon]

what a pathetic vault smh

[granite pond]

I’m paralyzed between torch, brand, and anvil for bullion this week. I want em all!

[prisma crane]

chest for tier?

[young wasp]

What's your priority for content/enjoyment?

[undone beacon]

yeah thats what im prob doin

[granite pond]

Mostly m+ so I think I’m leaning anvil

[prisma crane]

torch is prob the most "fun" of the 3, anvil is prob the best for dmg overall, and brand is basically anvil with less babysitting

[young wasp]

Signet's good if you can chain pulls.

[prisma crane]

yea it's boring but at least it's ilvl

[undone beacon]

I'd take the Onyx Impostor's Birthright but i'm planning on buying the Filial Duty ring and I have Eranog ring so

[prisma crane]

yea chest for sure then imo

[granite pond]

I might wait and see if I can snake a torch from the raid this week

[lusty grotto]

why the fuck would go ring

over a chest

[prisma crane]

bling bling

[lusty grotto]

highest item budget first above all things (if no extremely rare items)

[south zealot]

we are so back

[undone beacon]

It has a socket and looks pretty on my finger okay

[south zealot]

this could be you if you switch to panda

[lusty grotto]

what a chad

[south zealot]

sockets dont mean as much bc you get 2 every vault

you pick tokens in

[undone beacon]

I'll take the 5% more damage taken trinket and spend my bullion on a stormeaters boon and go real crazy

[south zealot]

taking boon and then mobs strafe to 360 you

[lusty grotto]

LMAO

[undone beacon]

[south zealot]

nim did u do fyrakk on warrior

prot

[lusty grotto]

sure

not mythic if thats what oyu jmean

but everything else yea

[south zealot]

that is what i meant

[lusty grotto]

yeah whats up

[south zealot]

i might be taking a fyrakk skip for mount today

[lusty grotto]

well

[south zealot]

have no idea what boss does on mythic

[lusty grotto]

just let BDK solo tank

(:

out of the top of my head

the big circles have soaks, and tanks have to soak them

[south zealot]

what if bdk is the dpot im filling in for

ff it?

[lusty grotto]

theres also the jails in p2 but i dont think tank do that

i think jakey might be able to help you more

[south zealot]

@jagged pier send help

[lusty grotto]

summoning @jagged pier for myth fyrakk

[south zealot]

i mean it shouldnt be that hard to live 30+ ilvls above what it was at current

[lusty grotto]

it shouldnt be

[south zealot]

[lusty grotto]

i think there's still some 1 shots though

[toxic pewter]

how many times can anvil drop where it becomes a bad trinket

like more than 2 times perhaps?

I guess it can depend

[lusty grotto]

dang, bullion rng

[jagged pier]

What up?

[south zealot]

whats hardest part on mythic fyrak

[jagged pier]

P1

[south zealot]

living, position, or both

[jagged pier]

Depends on your job

[lusty grotto]

choco u grabbing that free leggo too i hope

[south zealot]

im not crafting it

not doing superblooms

[jagged pier]

But yer both kinda big deal harder to live if you doing the fire and tanking when running across. Or u need to position for all the pool placements and still hard living cause youll tak boss for longer

[lusty grotto]

superbloom is the ez part

just get 5 buddies, you finish in 3 blooms

[jagged pier]

P2 is easy its the same thing twice and more on the dps and healers

P3 probably a joke now with gear tbh

[south zealot]

alright thank you

[jagged pier]

P3 is generally easy if u arent doing the seed its what killed me cause i had to use cds to live seed dot then i didnt have them for jaws at the end

But basically u wanna sw first bite and spell block the next 3

Did u want any specfic informtaion?

[hoary bough]

only ever trusted myself with boon on pala, since i could bubble it

[south zealot]

well i was gonna ask if you needed spellblock or not

[jagged pier]

Yes

[south zealot]

but you answered that so other than that think thats good

[jagged pier]

Can spell block the frontal blasts too if needs be

But i was using it for some weird stuff like double tanking the colussus and stuff

U shouldnt need to do that

[strong forum]

Idk like... 7 or 8 times?

[south zealot]

colossus hit hard by themselves or only when theres 2 on you

[jagged pier]

One does lots of small magic and a hit phys hit the other is opposite but for the push back the other 2 tanks were doing stuff so i had to taunt for the double big slam they do Sw is enough and probbaly will be now

Spell block just makes it easy

[blazing condor]

dreadplates are better than rageheart now right

[jagged pier]

But u want it for p3 anyways

Ye

[south zealot]

cool doesnt sound too hard

esp with 30 ilvls

[toxic pewter]

can i use anvil before key goes in

to get a charge going

i cant remember

[jagged pier]

Shiuld be easy with the ilvl bump and ppl knowing what to do yer

[prisma crane]

ill have to wait til 40+ ilvls and hope its a joke

[strong forum]

it wont reset CD as the CD is only 1minute

so, dont do that

[lusty grotto]

4 bosses in LFR still no bullion wtf

[strong forum]

[prisma crane]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-fortnite-takethel-dance-gif-12100688

Nom beat me to it

[south zealot]

you guys think ill get baron geddons blessing this week

[prisma crane]

that the thing for tfury?

its been so long since ive done it lol

[south zealot]

yes

[prisma crane]

my gut says no, but i hope you do

[south zealot]

i only have like 15 kills so not like its been ages

[prisma crane]

i actually got my first binding in BC iirc

didnt finish it til MoP

though i quit from early wrath til early MoP

[oblique bobcat]

Old returning prot warrior here, quick question; am I suppose to be using Rend directly?

[strong forum]

nah

[oblique bobcat]

Awesome cheers

Seems a pointless talent to take

[strong forum]

also nah

read your talent blood and thunder

[oblique bobcat]

Fuck glad I asked haha

Cheers

Trying to keep my bars simple

[strong forum]

well if you wanna be optimal you will require a good amount of keybinds^^

[vocal flame]

do you just press stuff without looking at your bars? even with the WA for shield block etc, I always find myself looking down haha

[oblique bobcat]

Constantly looking down haha

[strong forum]

comes with experience, comfortability and a more centered UI to not need to do that

[vocal flame]

yeah you are right nom

[south zealot]

on easy pulls i can just like

do literally anythinf else

like check mdt for count

[vocal flame]

dont you find yourself hitting stuff that doesnt proc tho? i see that on some of the top streamers for prot war, always hitting slam even tho its not there

[south zealot]

or netflix

muscle memory, shield slam is number 1 prio

hitting it even when its not up just happens

[vocal flame]

makes sense

[strong forum]

nop

i personally exceedingly rarely make rotational mistakes or hammer random buttons on prot warrior

but thats also me

[lusty grotto]

yeah i mean its all muscle memory

a long time playing warrior, and you basically know what to press and when

[tender phoenix]

so shadowflame patch over neck and belt is more dps and better early on season

[lusty grotto]

u cant put shadowflame on neck

only cloak and armor pieces

and no its not better early on season

its cloak and bracer

not belt

[prisma crane]

i just hit all my buttons all the time and eventually they hit

its fairly effective

[toxic pewter]

im goin all in blue silken lining whos with me

[prisma crane]

https://tenor.com/view/renée-slater-cinderella-twirl-gown-gif-21884860

[toxic pewter]

that me

[lusty grotto]

arms raiders are with u

but not me

[prisma crane]

[lusty grotto]

im a shadowflame arms raider

i got enough BSL on my alts

[toxic pewter]

according to raidbots i think in aoe bsl is actually pretty good? but on st not as good? i cant tell if i was comparing gear correctly though

[prisma crane]

curious what the uptime on it is in sims

[lusty grotto]

on prot? pretty decent

on arms... uhh 60%

(:

[ionic nimbus]

My actionbars aren’t visible anymore. Everything is tracked via WAs or plater. Takes some time to adapt but it’s worth

[toxic pewter]

I think its kinda interesting in the sense its sort of like a feedback loop on itself

[vocal flame]

interesting I never thought of that, seems like big brain stuff or a simpleton like myself. i use a mouse with all the buttons on the side and do keybindings with cntrl, shift etc

[ionic nimbus]

As said above, it’s a lot muscle memory but after some time you will play the class blind

[lusty grotto]

@strong forum you replacing puzzlebox with oce right?

im going on my AA farm again 😢

[radiant mortar]

guys is 5 targets 1,5min no bl still the correct sim setting for m+?

[lusty grotto]

yes

1 min too

but signet and anvil wont sim good on those, so dont sim for those

[radiant mortar]

I will just go with anvil tmr but overall I was using the setting I just described and wanted to make sure

because its saying to go mastery on enchants now :D

[lusty grotto]

go haste

well

i think the APL has caps

so it could be fairly accurate

you might have too much haste rating

[lusty tiger]

@strong forum what does this mean?

[ionic fern]

It means that it's actually potentially usable.

[frank saddle]

lmao only took 1 expac to fix this shit talent

[lusty tiger]

Cool I guess

[lusty grotto]

thats for exp

though

[toxic pewter]

omg

they fixed battle-scarred veteren

[south zealot]

they said its coming out next patch

[south zealot]

last senty

[toxic pewter]

Additionally, this change will be deployed to the 10.2.7 environment over the next few days.

[lusty grotto]

oh true

[south zealot]

“what do we drop for bsv”

[prisma crane]

interesting, tbh that's actually an even better way to fix it than i would have accepted

now it's a full-blown cheat

[toxic pewter]

this is how it should of worked to begin with, i am pretty sure the prot pala pseudo cheat death works this way

[radiant mortar]

do we even need this

[lusty tiger]

But does it fix the pre mitigation type bug?

[south zealot]

you never “need” a cheat

[radiant mortar]

I dont feel like falling over as long as I play correctly

[prisma crane]

theoretically, yes

[hardy snow]

Its just how dk's lichborne works, but with CD

[toxic pewter]

oh right yah that one too

[south zealot]

bsv will only be for turbo high keys where you living is harder than completing the key in time

otherwise u just ran more damage and be chilling

though u could pick it just for comfort if you want

[prisma crane]

effectively have a 220% hp pool when you have it available

[toxic pewter]

our spec tree is too damn tight for points as it is lol

[south zealot]

but it wouldnt be ‘needed’

[lusty grotto]

kinda weird the intervene magic shield wasnt updated

its still garbanzo beans

[hardy snow]

It would be better if it gives less reduction, but without cd imo, but then it would be just like dk's one, so thats also not good for specs diversity or something

[south zealot]

whats the cd in this

[prisma crane]

just make disrupting shout a larger range and a silence, then we can have fun

[south zealot]

is it still 3m

[chilly brook]

@warm plinth hmmmmm dat you?

[hardy snow]

I guess the same, just change how it works (or to be more precise - make it works actually XD)

[prisma crane]

yea, if it worked how it was supposed to it's always been good when it's useful, problem was that it would proc all the time when you would normally want to take it in the first place

[lusty grotto]

ghash isnt playing this season

he taking a break

[chilly brook]

ah

[prisma crane]

[south zealot]

the only time i tooked it was in nelths lair bc i couldnt consistently do the first pull on fort without it

so i used bsv to help while grouping

[strong forum]

so itll function like wotn

kinda

[chilly brook]

imagine

a reverse WOTN

less damage at high hp

[hardy snow]

that would be cool

[chilly brook]

would fit better with our toolkit

[strong forum]

sadly

[toxic pewter]

no real way to get it

[strong forum]

dont have the talent point available unless you wanna sacrifice serious other talents

[toxic pewter]

they need to make Shield Specialization cost 1 point

[hardy snow]

I can drop ravager for something useful and not annoying to use

[south zealot]

wtb the no shield specialization build

[toxic pewter]

hmmm

[lusty grotto]

dual wield shield spec

(:

[toxic pewter]

the block chance is not huge cuz of shield block but the block amount is prob not something we can get rid of right

oh cant lose it anyway blocks other talents below it

[blazing condor]

so is dreadplates + anvil the play for general pushing or what

[south zealot]

yeah

well

wdym general pushing

[blazing condor]

not rank 1 keys

[south zealot]

thats like the standard lock in for keys imo but u can switch to splinter if youre feeling in danger

fyrakk also works if you dont have splinter

[blazing condor]

just doing like 13+

idk what the conversion rate is now

[south zealot]

youll be fine with anvil

[blazing condor]

but like ~25s

[south zealot]

chillin

[blazing condor]

yeah thats what it felt like

thanks

[hardy snow]

But about BSV, as Im reading bluepost again... It doesnt have to be "fix" for the bug of how it works. It still works around 30% hp treshpoint, but we don't know if it will work properly on dmg after mitigation or on dmg before mitigation like it does now 🤷‍♂️

[vestal moat]

At least they fixed and updated this worthless capstone in the last 10% of this expansion lol

Seems like the 180 seconds cooldown is gone though?

just a straigt up will of the forsaken clonse

[toxic pewter]

if we really wanted bsv wat single point would have to be cut? I guess the new enduring alactrity?

[vestal moat]

will of the necropolis

I would consider dropping champions bulwark if that is possible

[toxic pewter]

I dunno about that one

champion bulwark too strong

[strong forum]

if youre dropping champions bulwark, you might aswell drop shield charge

[vestal moat]

definiterly not dropping enduring alacrity

ya i would drop shield charge too in that case

[toxic pewter]

hmm no shield charge u say

[strong forum]

like shield charge without champions bulwark is pointless

[south zealot]

storm of steel

[strong forum]

im not saying its a thing

[vestal moat]

so it'd be like no shield charge, yes disrupting plus cheat death? something like that

[strong forum]

but im saying if you plan on dropping anything, you drop both

[toxic pewter]

new bsv ravager build wit no shield charge

[strong forum]

you will lack block uptime

if you drop SC

[toxic pewter]

yep shield charge just to ogood

[strong forum]

so you gotta pick up bolster

if you drop SC

[toxic pewter]

hmmm

spell block too good

cant do it

[vestal moat]

Again, not saying we should. im saying if you HAVE to get the cheat what do we do. keeping in mind maybe the cheat will cover some of the lost block

[toxic pewter]

to get bsv i think it would have to be enduring alacrity

[strong forum]

if you plan to go ultra overkill tanky

https://i.imgur.com/nPIEJBV.png

[urban portal]

just dont get bsv

[strong forum]

this is beyond afk tanky

assuming BSV does work properly

[toxic pewter]

yah i am just speaking hypothetically what i would drop if i did want it

[vestal moat]

Yep that is what i thought. disrupting and no shield charge

[toxic pewter]

hmm

[vestal moat]

Still cool they are implementing "early" a deisgn change from TWW. Not aware of any other spec that is getting that. too little too late but better than nothing. we still dont need a cheat.

[toxic pewter]

a world without shield charge actually not end of the world since battering ram lost value anyway

[strong forum]

correct, but

[toxic pewter]

it still does decent dam

[strong forum]

i dont think BSV holds that much value

to begin with

[toxic pewter]

agreed

[vestal moat]

I believe the new BSV is about the same as just adding 24% extra EHP. I;ll let Nom or other TCers tell me if that's right or not but i think it's close.

[urban portal]

the alternative is having a bricked talent

[south zealot]

how do you even die with this

[urban portal]

thats assuming you get 100-0 without a single point of healing

[waxen frigate]

@hoary bough i just got home btw in case you want the full item list for that mog i linked before

[south zealot]

like you would have to try to die you perma have some cd up

[urban portal]

the weight changes drastically depending on where you get the healin

[toxic pewter]

MEGA TANK

[hoary bough]

oh yes pls, I loved that mog

[vestal moat]

so if you are ALREADY below 30% and you take MORE damage, does the talent do nothing?

[urban portal]

no

everything below 30 will be scratching you is the understanding

there has to be some sort of internal CD

else its too broken

[vestal moat]

it's ambiguous
"When a damage event reduces your health below 30%,"

[urban portal]

that ybecause your last 30% hp will be worth as much as 150% hp

[toxic pewter]

i am unkillable now

[south zealot]

i assume it stays at 3m

[strong forum]

its a 3min cd

[south zealot]

otherwise you literally cannot die

[strong forum]

like huh

[urban portal]

it didnt say in the blue post

got it

[strong forum]

they changed the functionality

not what it does

[vestal moat]

oh i thought there were no CD

[strong forum]

its an 80% DR and 100% healing taken increase for 8 seconds with a 3min cd

[toxic pewter]

would we like it more if it triggered at 20%

[toxic pewter]

nice

[south zealot]

what

oh

idk why i misunderstood that so badly

[toxic pewter]

I dunno like 30% is low, but if it saved me at like 20% i think i would like it more

I think it originally was trigged at 20% in beta i swear..

[spark cedar]

Holy fuck they fixed it? we have all capstones that work now ... ermagherd this is amazeballs

[lusty grotto]

are mythic 2/4/7 on all awakened raids now or

i thought it was 2/5/7 last season

wait no it was 2/4/6 lol

im so confused

cause they keep changing it

for vault raid rewards i mean

wasnt aberrus in s2 just the first kill for first slot

i cant fucking remember

[primal pelican]

Anything good from ulduar this week?

[undone beacon]

Its 2/4/6 for vault maxxing

[lusty grotto]

it was never the same for all the raids

when they were active

so the question remains

its 2/4/7 btw

[warm plinth]

Nope. My war is Rennick. And I'm unsubbed atm.

[chilly brook]

F

[lusty grotto]

well i guess s3 was 2/4/7

[undone beacon]

?

Or am i misunderstanding the question

[lusty grotto]

u are

once again

every raid on its season had different numbers

so the question is, are they uniform this time around

or are they the same as their season numbers

so this week its 2/4/6, but next week it could be 2/5/7

since its aberrus

[undone beacon]

They're uniform

[lusty grotto]

and then amirdrassil is 2/4/7

[undone beacon]

I only did 6 bosses on my hunter last week and got all three slots

[lusty grotto]

ok

idk if thats confirmation enough but ill take it

[granite pond]

Was 2/4/6 for sure last week, I filled a few alt vaults

[lusty grotto]

roger, thanks to you both

[blazing condor]

how many total bullions will we have now this reset

[lusty grotto]

6 total

3 items

[undone beacon]

six if you did the dungeon quest, 4 otherwise

[blazing condor]

dope

how much damage is diurna compared to normal ring?

[warm plinth]

17 bajillion

[blazing condor]

wow

[warm plinth]

Ikr

[strong forum]

5-6k dps

[warm plinth]

See, I was right

[hoary bough]

nice, just need the watchman stuff to come back, smh

[grim pilot]

@south zealot

so close

need to pull bigger

and pad harder

[primal pelican]

confused by the dev notes, theres a change to Battle scarred vet that seems to imply its getting added to live servers, is this already implemented?

[south zealot]

we both would have had it with a ww

i feel like 500 is possible

[grim pilot]

YEP

[south zealot]

with a good non aug comp

[grim pilot]

but

[south zealot]

good trinkeys

[grim pilot]

u need to do crazy pulls

and

have group around you

[south zealot]

its just so hard and be unethical

[grim pilot]

enha

[south zealot]

yeah

[grim pilot]

ww

druid

[south zealot]

and maybe an outlaw bc they do piss mass aoe

[grim pilot]

also more gear which we'll get

[south zealot]

with no boob

[grim pilot]

wait

grieftorch

[south zealot]

boon

[grim pilot]

I need to get grieftorch

[waxen orbit]

oKAY

What yall think

Grieftorch or Rageheart?

[grim pilot]

anvil

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[waxen orbit]

With bullion?

[strong forum]

soon tm

[grim pilot]

anvil is

super good

like if youre semi competent

[lusty grotto]

rageheart not the top one anymore

[grim pilot]

its gonna do at least 5% in keys

[lusty grotto]

its good just not as good as s3

[south zealot]

for what

[blazing condor]

i dont like timer-based trinkets

[grim pilot]

I'm doing 200k on some full st boses

[south zealot]

they serve different purposes

[grim pilot]

like vexamus

and thast without gholak

[strong forum]

grieftorch is just as potent as anvil

[primal pelican]

does the BSV change make it worth taking?

[waxen orbit]

This is what I was thinking like

It's same damage

except it's more burst

[grim pilot]

thats why I'll play gt and anvil

[strong forum]

hard to evaluate easley

[south zealot]

it hits hard but you cant block while using it

[grim pilot]

for 500k push

[waxen orbit]

and can be of more utilization in M+ environments, i.e. like

High Brackenhide

[lusty grotto]

fucking sick

[waxen orbit]

with totems

you can straight up just delete one solo as a tank

[south zealot]

so theres downsides to it as well

[waxen orbit]

That seems fucking huge no?

[strong forum]

i dont think BSV is that valuable, as theres ALOT of times where you are brought to below 30% HP and youre turbo fine afterwards without needing that CD

[waxen orbit]

And it's equivalent dam profile

[strong forum]

and the reality of the tank dying first is extremely low in keys

[waxen orbit]

Ya BSV is placebo

to keep it a stack

[grim pilot]

like

@south zealot

[waxen orbit]

I mean not placebo

[grim pilot]

how unethical is this

[waxen orbit]

It's efficient

but

it's unneeded

[south zealot]

wheres ur bloodbourne man

wouldve had 400k with it

[grim pilot]

ahh

[strong forum]

its good at what its supposed to do, but reality is, pwar doesnt need that

[waxen orbit]

What about this is unethical?

[strong forum]

unless its a TRUE cheat death, i dont think itll be good

[grim pilot]

ss not being first

[waxen orbit]

other than how low the fervid bite dam is

I mean on fort week

that's kinda fine

[south zealot]

ss wont be first in an aa fort

thats just not really possible

[hoary bough]

what's the note on BSV? I can't see anything on wowhead

[lusty grotto]

myrtuu is eu

[grim pilot]

ye

[lusty grotto]

so no fort week yet

[south zealot]

oh

[primal pelican]

gotcha gotcha, last question is there anything worthwhile in ulduar this week?

[undone beacon]

Just replace BSV with prophetic stonescale but as a talent ez ez

[grim pilot]

im still in tyra

[south zealot]

eu cringe

[grim pilot]

wait

u do more dam on forti

[strong forum]

ulduar?

[waxen orbit]

Hero track gear and that's p much it

[grim pilot]

my 396k

[lusty grotto]

idk myrtuu that looks badge

[grim pilot]

is on tyra

LMAO

[south zealot]

o

hacks

[waxen orbit]

Timewalking Ulduar

It's just hero track gear

[strong forum]

ah, no

[waxen orbit]

Nothing really of any note

[grim pilot]

I mean purely damage wise

[lusty grotto]

too much tclap

[grim pilot]

I pressed outburst on tc when it was more dam

[lusty grotto]

was that AA?

[grim pilot]

nah

ye

aa

[lusty grotto]

oh i guess that makes a bit more sense

[grim pilot]

considering that

tc>ss on 8t

and my every single pull

was at least 8t

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats fine

[grim pilot]

but I got a cook

to do massive pulls

[strong forum]

crit did 440k

[grim pilot]

this is what I played

[strong forum]

try to keep up

[grim pilot]

wasnt it with aug

[strong forum]

he did one without aug aswell

i think

[grim pilot]

500k with aug ye

[south zealot]

i feel like doing pull 8 is a criminal offense

[grim pilot]

its a criminal offense

[south zealot]

how do u even do that

[lusty grotto]

nah

[grim pilot]

that I didnt do it with the boss

[lusty grotto]

just z axis it

[grim pilot]

LMAO

I'm pulling that shit onto last boss

next week

[lusty grotto]

or play stops

[radiant mortar]

why pull so much?

[lusty grotto]

why not

[grim pilot]

because its a 9

I'm pulling big

and padding hard

[south zealot]

to pad overall

[waxen frigate]

losing heroic all-totem to the havoc dh doing tank damage

it's so over man

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats me tonight

cause my guild is pepega'ing

[south zealot]

have it

noobs

[lusty grotto]

noobs dn

[south zealot]

whats noobs

[lusty grotto]

[grim pilot]

this is what im gonna do

next week

[waxen orbit]

Btw Enduring Scale is like

BIS defensive type shit yea?

[radiant mortar]

man why those two extra mobs before last boss

just to pad?

[grim pilot]

yes.

[spark cedar]

lol

[gilded bear]

Is Brackenhide trinket + Rageheart good for M+ or it's too much? I still have 4 bullions and idk what to pick and I already have Anvil

[radiant mortar]

I dont trust any pug group to play any of those pull beside pull 1

[hoary bough]

not even pull 2?

[grim pilot]

I'm not playing in pugs

whenever I play on my warrior

[granite pond]

The thing with pugs is that they’ll always do the worst thing possible but if you take the time to teach them and show them the way…they’ll still do the worst thing possible

[radiant mortar]

:D

[grim pilot]

if I play weeklies on my war its because its fresh week and we wanna cap crests

[radiant mortar]

had a priest leave on a nok 8 today, had to finish last boss with 4 people

so thats how my pugs go

on the otherside times my first 10+ today, nice and clean AA +12

[hoary bough]

i was doing a nice av9 on my mage, when 5 mins into the dungeon, the tank (also a pwarr, own up you eejit) just goes "gtg" and leaves

someone sell me key insurance

[waxen orbit]

That's a lot

I don't think you need all that

What key level are you doing though?

[grim pilot]

gholak, eranog ring

[strong forum]

using 2 absorb trinkets is entirely overkill

[hoary bough]

give some love to ya boi dreadplate

[gilded bear]

last season I was doing 27s, idk how it will be this season

[strong forum]

ya so you dont need to go turbo tanky then

[grim pilot]

overkill for that content

[strong forum]

yea

[gilded bear]

any suggestions then please?

[grim pilot]

#protection message

[gilded bear]

ops, sorry

I already have gholak too

[grim pilot]

maybe dreadplates? @strong forum

anvil + dreadplates

1 purely offensive

[strong forum]

mythic gholak?

[grim pilot]

1 mix

ye if gholak isnt mythic grab that one

[radiant mortar]

when is EU reset again?

[grim pilot]

in 5 or 6 hours

[radiant mortar]

damn going to sleep then

have a great one

[grim pilot]

@strong forum do I delude myself and try to get into 2/9m on my magus

to grab that mythic vault slot

or

[feral folio]

does this mean this talent will be playable now ?

[grim pilot]

im 507

[strong forum]

and yeah anvil+dreadplate is probably the best non-turbo tank combo

[waxen orbit]

What exactly does "non-turbo" mean?

Don't you want it to be turbo?

Isn't that positive?

[grim pilot]

non turbo tank

[strong forum]

why do you want to play turbo tanky?

[waxen orbit]

I don't know what turbo means

[grim pilot]

big

[waxen orbit]

I've just been taught that turbo means like

[strong forum]

turbo means alot

[flint tiger]

Is it better to open vault cache as prot or arms? Trying to avoid risk of shield/weapon in the vault, but not sure if there are super strong prot only trinkets from M+

[strong forum]

large

[waxen orbit]

Oh

[strong forum]

huge

ultra

giga

mega

[hoary bough]

not now, across the next few days, then we'll have to actually see if it works, i assume -- not optimal, but looks playable

[waxen orbit]

Overcompensatory tankiness

?

[strong forum]

yes

[grim pilot]

yes

[waxen orbit]

Got it

[grim pilot]

jinx

buy me a coke

[waxen orbit]

Yea see I just call that pussy shit

[feral folio]

okay

[waxen orbit]

Wait why can I not post my crackpipe emote

[strong forum]

playable yes, optimal? doubtful, properly useful? also doubtful

[south zealot]

but

[grim pilot]

u need special role

[south zealot]

anvil

i need it

[grim pilot]

take it

wait

what did u spend your bullions on

[strong forum]

theres only 1 good trinket for prot from m+

[grim pilot]

u got 3 bullion items

this week

[south zealot]

dreadplates and eranog ring

[grim pilot]

[south zealot]

i have a normal gholak

[grim pilot]

if you wanted to play optimal prob gholak but

get the anvil

[flint tiger]

So better to open as DPS spec then

[south zealot]

sucks i didnt get heroic last week

[strong forum]

id say so

[waxen orbit]

So I'm caught up

Do I go with

Anvil

[strong forum]

bro i dont have ANY items from raid

[waxen orbit]

or Grieftorch

?