oh warcraft 3
#protection
light nova
is wc3 reforged still horrendously bugged or?
humble schooner
just wait for the next sale, I think it was $15 USD last time
I bought it during the last sale, installed it, lauched it, got to the main menu and just exited the game lol
waxen frigate
is wc3 reforged still horrendously bugged or?
It worked fine for my purposes (playing the story)
Like a year ago
grim pilot
is wc3 reforged still horrendously bugged or?
I read somewhere they patched everything but didnt do any of the things they promised they do (no idea what)
apparently had some big plans
that went to shit
🤡
either way all I care about is playing the custom mode
its a good way to play when youre bored
vital sinew
It murdered a good portion of old custom campaigns on hiveworkshop and required a pirate workaround. Otherwise you can still play with the old artstyle and the extra camera zoom out is nice.
mystic yoke
how do you deal with the crocs in Legacy? they're litterally murdering me bad
mystic yoke
yip ok, was wondering if there was a way to remove the bleed
mystic yoke
ah so an evoker can do it?
south zealot
yeah they can remove a bleed every minute
mystic yoke
ok nice ty
frosty mango
how do you deal with the crocs in Legacy? they're litterally murdering me bad
You can outrange the bleed if you kite in a big arc
Also works for the rethi enraging dudes and the tarasek guys in azure vault
south zealot
not yet
gonna but it tomorrow at reset
if i get gholak from raid tonight
prayge'
prisma crane
🙏
strong forum
Anvil go brrr
undone beacon
The longer I linger here the more I want an anvil
Its either that or a Filial Duty ring tomorrow, havent decided
Might wait for raid to see if I can get a natty seal
rapid jewel
I kinda love my grieftorch and dreadplate, but anvil kinda is tempting
undone beacon
I've been using the Gnarlroot trinket and a dreadplate in keys this week
been pretty sick
strong forum
grieftorch and dreadplate are perfectly good aswell
rapid jewel
the mythic battle of dazar'alor looks really nice too, but you kinda need the legion mage tower weapon and shield transmog to make it really work
south zealot
i dont have any white shoes wtf
waxen frigate
sheeeeesh i look clean as fuck
fatfckgodx
south zealot
the shoulders being a different white is kinda throwing me off
but like
it would go so well together
undone beacon
Random pug tank, he wasnt very good but the main thing I noticed was the use of a shadowed impact buckler. Wild to see what randos do
For context this was a +2 AA on my rat alt
lusty grotto
Random pug tank, he wasnt very good but the main thing I noticed was the use of ...
so nothing
south zealot
its bad
queen hemlock
say compare it to a bushwhacker's compass (champion
i just got a heroic one and well, im not certain which passive might be better, maybbeeee the shield is something just wanted to check
undone beacon
The compass might genuinely be better lol
waxen frigate
Random pug tank, he wasnt very good but the main thing I noticed was the use of ...
🤔
This name looks familiar
queen hemlock
The compass might genuinely be better lol
my, alright then thanks
waxen frigate
336k arms tho
south zealot
get monk enhance and druid in group @grim pilot
undone beacon
<@192743144276623360>
this looks fucking awful for incorp
grim pilot
get monk enhance and druid in group <@325173865175318529>
ON GOD
livid oasis
tropic skiff
if im rage cap and ignore pain has full uptime/ is in full use, should I not use shield slam and just revenge thunderclap?
south zealot
keep spending your rage with ignore pain
even if its capped
use shield slam on cooldown always
tropic skiff
keep spending your rage with ignore pain
wait why
vestal moat
Read the anger management talent. 🙂
south zealot
anger management talent
more rage spent gives you more cdr on avatar, more avatar is more damage and thunderclaps, more thunderclaps is more rage and shield slam procs, more shield slam procs is more rage and more rage spent is more cdr on avatar
not to mention those 2 talents makes your shield wall about a minute cd
queen hemlock
im not sure if the thing is there anymore
but there was something that made it so that if you spend rage (especially on IP)
you get more shieldslam reset
=/= more rage
more damage
more set bleed faster
rapid jewel
im not sure if the thing is there anymore
but there was something that made it ...
SS only resets on actions, the current set bonus has a higher chance to proc on IP compared to other rage spenders
SS only resets from devastator/devastate, TC and revenge
queen hemlock
oh ah alright
prisma crane
@south zealot you have a blacksmith?
queen hemlock
and em, is there any way for prot warrior to grab that uproar talent? (roar cd 30 sec) for m+?
rapid jewel
sure if you give up shockwave
south zealot
<@413532942762246144> you have a blacksmith?
yes but i can only craft like
3 items
at like rank 3 max
prisma crane
lol kk nvm
south zealot
lol
prisma crane
all g
queen hemlock
sure if you give up shockwave
that would be stupid, control for abit more damage yikes
but aye thanks for the help
south zealot
i gave on professions early on
median tulip
Random pug tank, he wasnt very good but the main thing I noticed was the use of ...
it's not really very different than a SFAP is it?
rigid hull
is there a macro to cast ravager at my feet
errant leaf
/cast [@player]
median tulip
Random pug tank, he wasnt very good but the main thing I noticed was the use of ...
Surely much more notable is that he's using Forgestorm over Gholak
strong forum
maybe if I get gholak and good 2nd trinket
yeah like i did 360k aswell
with 522 regular weapon and only 1 real trinket
400k will be easily doable
undone beacon
it's not really very different than a SFAP is it?
From what I’ve read/simmed the buckler is supposed to be substantially worse than a shadowflame patch but
south zealot
twitch prime
grave frigate
rapid jewel
I guess I suck
cedar hazel
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/951483056022229003/1239416661073723392/image.png?ex=664380f7&is=66422f77&hm=9a0ce770a16641d864b7d424c0b8d3b613ab6065e8907d9b091ac7ec847145f5& cmon you can do better
rapid jewel
no monk in that grou, missing 5% damage
cedar hazel
you need pi and monk buff
lament musk
true...
waxen orbit
lament musk
yeye it does
cedar hazel
double aug when
south zealot
double aug when
pallid quiver
But the healer's a monk there
unborn wagon
So I am not actively avoiding mastery, but I have like 15%, is bthat bad?
polar storm
why prot kinda fun
urban bane
So I am not actively avoiding mastery, but I have like 15%, is bthat bad?
it is what it is. ilvl better to care about in like 98% of cases
follow what robot says and 
strong forum
So I am not actively avoiding mastery, but I have like 15%, is bthat bad?
no, you want 20/25% minimum
polar storm
im a fury thats off spec rn lmao
south zealot
dang gholak didnt drop
strong forum
ye im gonna have to wait a while to get gholak aswell
tribal wharf
worn sand
when going into a pack
what do i use initially for threat cause i keep dropping threat hard
new to tanking
south zealot
while groupign thunderclap
when its grouped use your cds
ravager roar shield charge are great for agro
pallid quiver
when going into a pack
SS, Thunderclap, DPS while you're gathering should get ready to ramp off the mob you shield slammed
if they don't they're attempting to commit suicide
On not the very first pull, it can also help to leave like a last mob back there for DPS to tunnel on while you gather the next pack
lusty grotto
ya choco was telling the other dude
pallid quiver
I wanted to add on my second part, mostly
unborn wagon
So question, how do I not die to the chain guy in Nelt? If Shieldwall is down I drop bad
unborn wagon
That boss specifically>?
Surprised we don't take disrupting shout, also spell block works against a melee attack?
strong forum
his attack is magic buffed
unborn wagon
it's his giant magic attacks that destroy me
strong forum
thats why he hurts
unborn wagon
I am spamming IP like no tomorrow but drop once SR+Demo shout wear off
unborn wagon
Ahh okay, the build on Archon doesn't take it
pallid quiver
that's why you don't blindly copy things from archon
on top of that, the build i'm seeing on archon does, in fact, take spell block default
sinful root
unborn wagon
that's why you don't blindly copy things from archon
When you get every class to 3k, you sometimes neeed a short cut
south zealot
so use spellblock ^^
oh u can spellblock that
man i really just gotta look at the sheet sometimes
everyday i find some shit that is really difficult that can just be basically immuned
onyx vessel
"Top builds" 
those top players who run with a team they ran with for a long time who know how to properly play there classes unlike the pugs you go in with
Don't need spell block dmg loss 
pallid quiver
"Top builds" <a:keksquad:766690598635044895> those top players who run with a te...
even ignoring that
the only main difference i see on archon for builds is that they usually recommend titanic throw over sidearm
i can't even find a version that doesn't have spell block
pallid quiver
It's more popular to have sidearm over titanic, but the highest key done was with titanic throw over sidearm according to it, so
onyx vessel
Whats the other option bolster
pallid quiver
what other option
onyx vessel
For spell block
pallid quiver
It does mention that like 8% of talent builds have picked up bolster or bloodborne, but
onyx vessel
Bloodborne requires 2
pallid quiver
The implication theree is they're moving a second point from somewhere else
Again, there isn't any particular data on that as a whole tree because people aren't clearing higher keys with those selected
pallid quiver
tell your DPS to do less damage so SR can go up more
strong forum
theres very little reason not to run spellblock
pallid quiver
yeah but if they did 2 dps, that's a lotta wind blasts and electro blasts rejected
strong forum
the dmg gain is miniscule
unless you go full 2xbb
at which point you sacrifice something else
south zealot
yeah its literally just for aa damage
other dungeons i feel like have sections where spell block is just too much value
i guess nokhud you could drop as well but no real reason
strong forum
all magic dmg in that key is avoidable in nokhud ye
but again
no real reason to just pick up TaN
and disrupting shout is nice on last boss
just tested it
and i legit couldnt tell a difference if bloodsurge existed or not
onyx vessel
Disrupting is a staple in my m+ build
strong forum
🐴
south zealot
LOL
pallid quiver
Yeah, disrupting is super nice on last boss adds, 10/10
not that i've ever remembered to grab it, but
onyx vessel
It's my horse
strong forum
ya i just did 2 NOs
1 with and 1 without it
i got some kicks with it
not many
but some
onyx vessel
I use HR over into the fray dropping +2 seconds on shield block for disrupting
strong forum
does that work?
cuz
only having 6s SB
reduces the value of HR
SIGNIFICANTLY
onyx vessel
🤔
strong forum
if every single SB you gain
is by default 8seconds long
you get alot more opportunity to extend said SB
via HR
onyx vessel
I have about 86% uptime on shield block
onyx vessel
With just HR
onyx vessel
With HR ED it's 96
onyx vessel
pallid quiver
it's me, i need more haste
onyx vessel
What do you drop for disrupting
pallid quiver
haste is almost my lowest stat; it only beats mastery by 6 rating
lusty grotto
dats me i need more haste
onyx vessel
With into the fray
strong forum
without
pallid quiver
you really should work on your reading comprehension; that's like the third time you read the wrong thing
Since I mentioned haste is almost my lowest stat, that means the stat it beats is my lowest stat. That would be mastery, with the second part of that statement.
pallid quiver
But at any rate, I just keep getting nothing but stuff without haste
if i even get loot
lusty grotto
giga sadge haste
strong forum
2k mastery from 2x BSL, 1.3k crit from phial+ food, 400 haste from rune+food
south zealot
oh yeah u have bsl
south zealot
yeah i was running some sims earlier and they wanted more vers as well
strong forum
4.6k crit, 7k haste, 4.1k mastery, 4.2k vers
south zealot
im at 3500 with phial
lusty grotto
pls send haste
strong forum
and big tanki
onyx vessel
Hes using bluesilken for free mastery
onyx vessel
south zealot
technically its better defensively bc crit block so ur
strong forum
further increasing the value of BSL
strong forum
because i dont drop below 90% because of BSL
south zealot
dreadplates owns
strong forum
south zealot
i wish i had anvil lol
lusty grotto
congrats
onyx vessel
who are you?
nobody
lusty grotto
k
onyx vessel
Why let me guess you arms in raid
Or even better not even playing a warrior
Or not playing wow
south plume
dreadplate > fyrakk ?
strong forum
id say so
south zealot
aoe dummy?
strong forum
they both fullfil different purposes
dreadplate gives you a 15sec safetynet of low dmg intake and does REALLY good damage
fyrakk gives you a short but big absorb, so its better for large hits
with mediocre dmg output
south zealot
a lot of the top streaming players are buying fyrakk and im not really sure why
i guess just bc it was good last season its automatically good again but theres 3 seasons of trinkets available
strong forum
cuz rageheart big on the meter
and it was best last season
and dreadplates wasnt used in s2
dreadplates doesnt show up on the meter and is REALLY not obvious how it works
so its hard to convince people otherwise
look at what people made a roar about tome
even tho its 80% useless pad damage
but it looked HUGE on the dmg meter
pallid quiver
It's very notable in comparison to dreadplates, as well, because you press it and HOLY SHIT I'M TANK
south zealot
i guess people just really underestimate how imporatant mainstat is
even though its like always emphasized
hard to see the value just by looking on details
strong forum
people alwayas underestimate mainstat
cuz mainstat doesnt show up on details
but big bar does
and also if you sim uncapped trinket on 10 targets it looks good over taking trinket that is capped to 5 targets or less
pallid quiver
damage breakdowns were a mistake smh
strong forum
theyre alright
or rather
theyre extremely good to figuring things out
if you have knowledge beyond only looking at a bar
and can evaluate given data properly
unborn wagon
Disrupting shout worth dropping Bloodsurge for?
strong forum
if you make proper use of it, it can prove very good yes
i just played a key without bloodsurge and i legit couldnt tell the lack of bloodsurge
kind glen
I also haven't felt the loss of Bloodsurge has hurt me too hard. Probably should have dropped it earlier
lusty grotto
well maybe since s2
unborn wagon
Also, I am lazy, having beeh pushing every class to 3k, I often play easier builds, I prefer heavy repro, will that hinder me from getting 3k?
lusty grotto
probably not
lusty grotto
yeah pretty much
strong forum
aslong as you throw the maximum amount of points you can into each talent gate on pwar
you literally cant fuck up
straight up
unborn wagon
Also, I have 45% haste, 34% crit, 16% mastery, 24% vers, should I drop haste for a little mastery?
toxic pewter
Ok
Actually intrigued by bsl lol
Like how much tankier it makes us to help us stay above the 90% threshold is a nice synergy
toxic pewter
Fair enough just seems fun for a change lol
pallid quiver
it's always interesting to me that people don't understand you can go either way in academy
they just physically can't comprehend it
pallid quiver
non-zero chance I kick a guy i invited because we haven't even started and he's already "EVERYONE IN THIS GROUP BUT ME IS A FUCKING (insert insta bad words here) AND DON'T KNOW HOW TREE WORK"
pallid quiver
talking a lot of shit for a warrior on incorp week
median tulip
I love it when a party is toxic BEFORE we get to the dungeon. I can quit group without guilt.
lusty grotto
literally had 12 magic debuffs cause people died
0 dispels
40ish poison stacks, thank god im dwarf
pallid quiver
I'mma probably wait until we get a healer, then give them the boot, be like "oh sorry, friend hopped on 🙂 "
strong forum
thankfully spellblock works on everything vexamus does
lusty grotto
im pretty sure i still have that log
pallid quiver
i'm a cow, i was born wrong
lusty grotto
just passive farming puzzlebox, not gotten it yet
median tulip
The best thing for the tree in academy is to have a shaman throw their earth elemental in when the adds go live. It soaks all the poison stacks. EZ.
pallid quiver
i find them to be a problem sometimes because DPS are topping at a massive 40k DPS on that fight
lusty grotto
but it was weird how a healer never presses dispel
pallid quiver
i press dispell as a DPS 🙂
lusty grotto
yeah same, im always dispelling as ret
median tulip
Lots of healers in low/mid keys are only healing for the easy queues
lusty grotto
im the deios god
with my freedoms
"this was so easy to heal"
yet they didnt notice me freedoming time sinks
median tulip
What you have to remember is that the majority of the playerbase are NOT the sort of people who come to channels like this to improve on their gameplay.
median tulip
I don't like ulda
lusty grotto
early in the fight
EVERY
SINGLE
BOSS
im like
dude you know your class has by far the most amount of defensives in the game right?
pallid quiver
they don't press them
lusty grotto
he asked me are you tracking them?
pallid quiver
It's super funny if you have omniCD
lusty grotto
i told him, im tracking you dying on every boss
median tulip
How did he manage to die on the dwarves? It's the easiest fight.
strong forum
or only passive cleave the totem
strong forum
yup
pallid quiver
Because in a pug there's always someone doesn't know the strat
From what I've learned, the pug strat is to run around in circles, aimlessly, then try to time blasting the totem when all the trogs fixate leap on as much range as possible, so at best, only Bromach gets stunned
though the end goal is that zero trogs get stunned at all
unborn wagon
So.... I used my last catalyst charge because I got hero track legs (had veteran track tier). I proceeded to loot hero gloves with leech and hero chest with avoidance today...
lusty grotto
its fine you get a charge tomorrow
and even then a myth track piece is better than a hero with tertiaries
especially one with a useless tertirary like avoidance
unborn wagon
So leech should be my first charge! I have 2 champion and 2 hero pieces now.
pallid quiver
god, it makes me feel something every time I check healing after a key, and see I'm number 1 on the healer's healed targets list
and then i check the breakdown and 80% of it was overhealing
gives me a heart attack every time
flint tiger
Is Seal oif Diurna's chosen still #2 boullion choice for M+ focused players?
pallid quiver
Depends more on what drops you're getting, but it's the best ring for that slot since it's free damage
You may get more immediate returns off a trinket, but you can get any trinket that does damage and be fine enough
there's no ring that suddenly starts blasting people
flint tiger
hmm ok, debating between it and like rageheart or some other trinket. getting high ilvl raid trinkets are pretty much impossible for me to make the time to do
pallid quiver
Rageheart would be like a 6th pick, anyhow
It's outdone defensively in every situation by Treemouth, which is M+ farmable, and almost every situation defensively by Enduring Dreadplates
If you can't get any raid trinkets at all, whatsoever, I'd recommend grabbing Anvil for your coins, since it adds a lot over the course of a run and is a lot easier to maintain than Signet or anything else
We also aren't particularly starving for defense, either, until you even think of going past 10s. We're still not even lacking in particular then, either
flint tiger
guess long-term wise, diurna's chosen would still be the right move if i wanna go past 10s?
no idea how high i'll realistically get, but i've done 9s and they've seemed fine so far with no 4pc tier and only 498 ilvl
onyx vessel
talking a lot of shit for a warrior on incorp week
Fear
Hey dreadplates does more dmg then anvil
And it's a tank trinket
south zealot
Hey dreadplates does more dmg then anvil
no it doesnt
atleast my dreadplates vs nomers anvil
onyx vessel
south zealot
anvil also does more important damage anyways
so exclusively offense, anvil is best bc its turbo prio damage
pallid quiver
I got anvil because I wanted a different trinket to start with
south zealot
but yeah either way those are 2 insanely good trinkegs
onyx vessel
Just run Anvil and dreadplates
south zealot
that’s my plan
onyx vessel
Anvil is strong for all specs
south zealot
for sure
onyx vessel
Good choice
pallid quiver
remember kids, checking logs saves lives in M+ recruitment
Saw a tank with no history, was like, "Sure, I'll give 'em a shot if logs back them up"
logs did not back them up at all
onyx vessel
No history tho how would you know you test them?
teal swift
onyx vessel
pallid quiver
well
the tank i got was good, but the DPS couldn't press defensives
so chargath murdered them
literally every set of chains
onyx vessel
Why you posting a loli eh bud
Yeah dps are bad at using defensive if you see a warrior dying to I didn't have one left
Best cd in the game has 5 second cd
ionic fern
Tbf, Chargath is super spicy if people don't react fast.
pallid quiver
While true,
i was also an enhancement shaman and lived just fine
I didn't even realize people were dead until i looked over and saw they just died
ionic fern
Our healer did not have fun on the 14 we did yesterday where DPS'ers broke 3 together.
pallid quiver
the dps we had died off one chain break
the tank and i just duo'd the boss until I just couldn't keep myself up eventually
ionic fern
Solid.
At least you guys duod with a DPS + a tank.
I had to duo the first boss of Brackenhide with an Augmentation Evoker.
pallid quiver
i wish my logs didn't just auto stop after the first boss I kill in a dungeon, because I really want to see what happened
ionic fern
pallid quiver
But Aug's a DPS spec, Mwahi 🙂
weary saddle
Is Alltotem trinket good for pwar?
weary saddle
thanks
deft hinge
i hate having 2 use trinkets, is there a dmg trinket i can macro to avatar without thinking about managing?
lusty grotto
no
deft hinge
f
lusty grotto
well sometimes it be like that
lusty grotto
i cant get puzzle box to drop for arms 😢
lusty grotto
both really
ionic fern
Oo.
Well, luckily for me, we got 2x Brackenhide 13 and a Brackenhide 15 to do today.
So easy treemouth's.
weary saddle
@ionic fern why not All-totem if you are lazy?
ionic fern
CBa with 2x on-use.
onyx vessel
Yeah that's fair
ionic fern
But it's definitely a really good trinket.
onyx vessel
Yeah I use it marcoed to roar
strong forum
Good my anvil propaganda is spreading
ionic fern
When i used the 2nd bullion i was between Augury / Dreadplates / Anvil.
onyx vessel
I was like Anvil time to buy
ionic fern
Good my anvil propaganda is spreading
onyx vessel
mellow ocean
Uhhhhhhhhhhh. I just cant decide what to buy from this conversation 😄
onyx vessel
Since reality is ill never get legendary axe for dps
ionic fern
Uhhhhhhhhhhh. I just cant decide what to buy from this conversation 😄
What do you already have?
onyx vessel
mellow ocean
What do you already have?
Weapon and diurna chosen
ionic fern
What trinkets you got?
ionic fern
I wouldn't call 2 of our bis trinkets "shitty".
mellow ocean
I meand
ionic fern
strong forum
Yeah they're both S-tier trinkets
Sir my 2nd prot trinket rn is a normal raid grapnel
So having 515 signet and 515 tree-mouth is still very good
onyx vessel
I mean the weapon seems like a slight waste to buy as no1 is going to roll on it
onyx vessel
It drops easy buy
strong forum
To get a gholak
onyx vessel
mellow ocean
Well. I already bought it 😄 So no regrets.
onyx vessel
Got mine as 515 champion tier
ionic fern
Welp, my bullion this week is going to be either Diurna's Chosen ring or..another trinket.
strong forum
onyx vessel
I got that in normal then got it on heroic
onyx vessel
Yoinked it and gave it to my friend
strong forum
onyx vessel
lusty grotto
im getting diurna too
lusty grotto
im hurting for a myth shield man
ionic fern
Wait, i thought box was bis for arms?
strong forum
Yeah but 3min cd
onyx vessel
My vaults have legit been shit no trinkets or tier slots just shit
strong forum
lusty grotto
fucking did gnarlroot last night, no drops, and then igira breaks NA pugs apparently
onyx vessel
Rings or belts or backs
ionic fern
strong forum
Cuz you don't 100% of the time send Avatar on cd
onyx vessel
Puzzlebox on prot
onyx vessel
I hate box
ionic fern
Diurna's is only a 4.8k DPS increase for me. 😦
lusty grotto
:yes:
onyx vessel
You could use box as prot
strong forum
I get to use mythic dathea chest tomorrow
Cuz I can catalyse my shoulders
Then buy eranog ring
lusty grotto
i wish my guild would reclear myth, jesus christ
onyx vessel
Or use the dathea trinket
strong forum
ionic fern
lusty grotto
look at this shit
strong forum
I can't attend my pug raid this week
lusty grotto
INC MOP
onyx vessel
I wonder why
strong forum
So I'll have to pug with a true pug this week
ionic fern
Is MoP remix leveling faster than current WoW?
strong forum
Yes
ionic fern
Time to level something.
strong forum
Leveling is heavily sped up
onyx vessel
Mop remix is going to kill raiding and pugging shit isn't it
strong forum
I'm not playing mop remix
ionic fern
Oh, that's actually great.
I got 0 of the heritage ones.
onyx vessel
Same
ionic fern
So i can just level up some characters with it that i don't already have.
strong forum
I'll play d4 tonight tho
onyx vessel
350% xp on wow too
strong forum
S4 launch
lusty grotto
it was either DK, brew, warlock or shaman for me
mellow ocean
And what max lvl is in MoP remix?
lusty grotto
so i went DK
onyx vessel
Dh going to be op probably
strong forum
And you get to play with stupid OP gems
lusty grotto
you cant do retail stuff though
onyx vessel
strong forum
Everyone is gonna be OP
lusty grotto
until expac releases
strong forum
You'll have like 120% haste
mellow ocean
BDK sucks
strong forum
150% crit
onyx vessel
Vengeance returns
strong forum
Infinite stats basically
It's going to be a huge meme thing
Literally "what if we gave everyone god mode"
The game mode
onyx vessel
Good fun for a week then dies
mellow ocean
Well I will use it just for lvling I guess
strong forum
Skill will still play a role regarding playing your class
But it's just a meme for fun thing
(which wow lacks alot of)
So it's good
strong forum
Idk specifics
I only know about the memes of mop remix because of contractual obligations
ionic fern
Or mwahi's leech memes
Always leech.
It's actually wild how much hps we're already doing on live.
If i could just stack leech.
pallid quiver
It'll also let you level alts fast
jagged pier
Is MoP remix leveling faster than current WoW?
Sods at 150% and u still dont play it
ionic fern
Sods at 150% and u still dont play it <:sadge:820202363359854633>
But this is 350%%%%%%%%%%%%.
I will probably forget about it tbf.
pallid quiver
It scales even faster if you make an alt in Remix
jagged pier
so happy im breaking retail this season
ionic fern
I only have a priest to level i think.
jagged pier
and have keystone hero already
pallid quiver
Since there's the funny cloak that ups exp gain for chars past the first
mellow ocean
Btw anyone knows when the char trasnfers to retail + what ilvl could it have for easly lvling next expac?
lusty grotto
pallid quiver
are locks meta or something; why are there like 5000 of them every time I open a key
jagged pier
Yes.
weary saddle
Locks bind Ring of Fire to mousewheel and yolo
tropic skiff
forgot to go padbourne
Whats padborne lol
lusty grotto
bloodborne
sick sentinel
south zealot
What would you even drop for it
bloodsurge and spellblock
its literally only to pad in aa
deft hinge
Boring as f at work today, thinking about boullion purchase while getting paid iz good
strong forum
What's even better is writing about bullions and getting paid to write about it
jagged pier
south zealot
not bad
deft hinge
What's even better is writing about bullions and getting paid to write about it
endorsed!
strong forum
jagged pier
pallid quiver
huh
I didn't know the crest cap increase wasn't tied to server restart
I'm not sure why I thought that
south zealot
heah
jagged pier
its been doing weird stuff at the end of reset every week
south zealot
its tied to midnight pst i think
jagged pier
some ppls gets increased
south zealot
atleasy thays when i noticed it last week
jagged pier
some dont
pallid quiver
Yeah, was gonna say, should just be midnight I'd wager but
That makes more sense that it being tied to a server being restarted for minimal reason
strong forum
I've had the crest cap increase ~12hrs before reset
ionic nimbus
US things.. thanks for playing the Beta for EU
ionic nimbus
jagged pier
ionic nimbus
Nom, Nim… Even i am confused
blazing condor
- nimchip usually called nim
jagged pier
and is red
blazing condor
maybe he ran out of nitro
jagged pier
nome called nome and is orange
blazing condor
i call him nom 
tepid nest
i dont bother to track it at all because i didn't think it would proc, but I just found out that free victory rush can proc in m+. i assumed it wouldnt because the tooltip reads something like 'enemy that grants experience or honor'
tepid nest
seems like it works like that, yep
looks as tho war machine doesnt require a killing blow to proc. probably common knowledge to you guys
pallid quiver
i dont bother to track it at all because i didn't think it would proc, but I jus...
What that means is that it just has to be an enemy relevant to your level; you would technically be able to gain exp or honor off relevant level M+ mobs were it not for, y'know, the restrictions on that, but they fit the relevant level requirement as a result
though about all it does is make imp victory free if you're gonna press it; if the cd reset part becomes relevant, you're either doing some crazy stuff at high level keys or you boo boo'd
white plover
hey guys, recently got into tanking on warrior and in general, how do you guys generally know what routes to go? i find myself feeling a bit overwhelmed and anxious thinking that my route wont be good enough for 14-16 keys and that i need some super crazy route with a lot of big pulls. is this just bad mental? i will be pugging 100% of the time, i looked on keystone guru and i either see some insane top 1% pulls that i feel would wipe the group if i tried without communication or just very safe pulls that i feel would deplete due to time, i dont know if thats correct but i dont want my route to be the reason we fail. sorry for wall of text any help is appriciated! 🙂
grim pilot
threechest.io is better than keystone guru, and its also just experience
grim pilot
Youre not gonna insta push 16’s you’re gonna be going 11 12 13 14 and get a feel for routes and the timer
ionic fern
You can look at some random videos of the key / keylevel and pickup something the other tanks are doing.
jagged pier
press w the higher u go the longer u press w till u stop to dps
white plover
Thank you for responses!
threechest io i didn't know about so thank you very much,
atm im only doing 10-11 and it feels very okay, i think i scare myself to do higher so will just get more experience.
i didn't think to look at youtube videos for similar keylevel thank you!
have a good day
coarse ginkgo
jagged pier
rapid jewel
Thank you for responses!
threechest io i didn't know about so thank you very muc...
also invest some time to create routes in mythic dungeon tools, you can share them easily and DPS will plan so they have CDs for your bigger and more dangerous pulls
jagged pier
liek dps are ever gunna look at what u link
they will complain and pull mobs u dont want
ionic fern
They lowkey do not.
jagged pier
because your route is different to the one their favourite streamer does
ionic fern
I linked a Brackenhide route at the beginning of the key with a skip.
I wrote BEFORE the skip that we're going to skip.
The ret pally still goes in and attacks.
"Sorry, diddnt know".
jagged pier
rapid jewel
yeah palas are the new low int class in my opinion, all they know these days is "press divine storm"
grim pilot
also invest some time to create routes in mythic dungeon tools, you can share th...
I mean just track their cds and tell them next pull is big so they know when to pop
radiant mortar
beat some dps in rpl today, was just a 7 but still
sacred basin
what are prio bullions items ?
jagged pier
last spindle
Yo, can we see routes like in a minimap or something while doing the mythic?
tardy sequoia
guys how do I grab aggro on the plants that spawn on the tree boss in algethar?
im 480 on a +7 maybe it's too low item level? people in group were like 515
radiant mortar
aoe taunt, or thunder clap/roar/revenger
tardy sequoia
i have the same problem on the little dragons in the first boss of RLP
they are so fast and one shot everything
tardy sequoia
aoe taunt, or thunder clap/roar/revenger
ok i'll try the bleed thanks
radiant mortar
I had the same problem with the whelps and got the tip to just charge them and tcp/ aoe them
boss will follow you or you go back with aggro established while the dps go ham on boss
pallid quiver
im 480 on a +7 maybe it's too low item level? people in group were like 515
Honestly, at that point, if they're blasting CDs and you don't have a CD, it might honestly be pretty hard to keep aggro with that much of a gear difference; if need be, you can spend a violent outburst on TC for the extra aoe burst damage, or AOE taunt for the extra threat gen and fixate
radiant mortar
yeah aoe taunt is always an option but you only have it once for that fight
pallid quiver
if the DPS is at that ilvl and ripping aggro, there should only be once in that fight at a +7
If they're not ripping/doing their rotation/using CDs, there shouldn't be much of an aggro issue
tacit locust
My biggest problem in that fight is the toxin
tardy sequoia
spamming revenge and clapping doesn't make the effect sorted
i'll try to keep the bleeds and ravager for them
let'see what happens
pallid quiver
My biggest problem in that fight is the toxin
have a poison cleanse in the group, get cleansed when lashers are close to dead, profit
if there isn't a poison cleanse, you either need to CD/kill the lasher faster/tallent into Bitter Immunity, but it only works once in the fight and is mostly a dead talent rest of the dung/be dorf iirc
tacit locust
Ok I’ll keep that in mind on the next run thank-you
tardy sequoia
otherwise I'll have to get in groups ppl with ilvl akin to mine
even if it means to lower dps 🥲
frosty mango
My biggest problem in that fight is the toxin
Challenging shout and tclap when they spawn, then leap away, as they funnel to you shockwave them
Usually they’ll be dead before the toxin stacks too hard
Not really ideal but it does work
rapid jewel
yeah you can always kite them, if nothing else helps
frosty mango
If you’re in a situation where you gotta do that though you’re prob just gonna die the second round
Alternatively play dwarf
tacit locust
Ok I’ll try that if I can’t get a poison cleanse I have a dawrf just not geard as well yet
frosty mango
For only 60 us dollhairs your main could be a dwarf today #blizzard
median tulip
Just been told I'm a "trash tank" by a Monk who was doing less damage and fewer interrupts than me
waxen frigate
Just been told I'm a "trash tank" by a Monk who was doing less damage and fewer ...
Send his breakdown
median tulip
Nah, I'm not gonna publicly shame him. Just notes and ignored.
He was also really toxic tho
median tulip
Why is it always the worst DPS that are the most toxic MFers?
frosty mango
He was also really toxic tho
Objectively bad, toxic - sounds like you’re running in the 5-8 range
waxen frigate
Why is it always the worst DPS that are the most toxic MFers?
Projecting their own skill issues onto others
pallid quiver
Gotta be good at something
waxen frigate
And blaming them for their lack of progress
pallid quiver
And if it's not playing the game, it's gotta be harassing peeps
median tulip
He also managed to bait the frost cyclone and hit THREE of the intact icicles on Khajin
Like... I could not hit 3 of those if I TRIED
median tulip
Objectively bad, toxic - sounds like you’re running in the 5-8 range
HoI+8, yup
frosty mango
All of the skill capped toxic people generally rise to their ceiling and then clog up mid keys for people gearing alts. So by week 3-4 running mid keys is painful because you end up with a bunch of them
High concentration of assholery
jagged pier
Just been told I'm a "trash tank" by a Monk who was doing less damage and fewer ...
my fun adventure yesterday
talking to the tank
median tulip
Yeah... and I didn't have much time weeks 1 & 2 so now I'm stuck with them
jagged pier
yer
waxen frigate
Jesus bro
jagged pier
hes 2.9k io
waxen frigate
Lmao
jagged pier
mean while im running around on my shamman with aggro from just dotting
with flame shock
waxen frigate
I’m gonna assume he was also playing entirely wrong
jagged pier
🤷
waxen frigate
Not that playing right would help much
frosty mango
mean while im running around on my shamman with aggro from just dotting
He’s mitigating damage by not having aggro. Can’t take damage if the adds don’t want to hit you 🫡
waxen frigate
New pet tank (group members are pets)
pallid quiver
mean while im running around on my shamman with aggro from just dotting
i know this feeling
rapid jewel
no amount of skill will helpyou if you go m0 this season with 272 ilevel
strong forum
Friend has had a tank in a +2 who called someone gay for having a dps meter, then proceeded to go afk after the 3rd pack in a key
waxen frigate
LMAO
strong forum
Straight up, I've played this game on every skill level this and last season except literal world first content. And lfr/normal raid and m0/2-5s is the most toxic environment out of all of them
round thicket
How are we supposed to deal with the arcane orbs on vexamus? A dps player was scolding me for not taking more of them (m0) where I usually soaked 1-2 based on how many spawned near me... so this time I took 3 on first spawn and then the two I took on second spawn killed me for 600k and 800k dmg
So was that just a dps baiting me and we are only supposed to take 2 max per cycle or do you rotate the players who soak orbs
pallid quiver
Heroic raid can be pretty rough some times, too
strong forum
You take 2-3 orbs each wave, usually you should get dispelled, with CDs
pallid quiver
healers sometimes don't dispell, tho
round thicket
Oh ok just a case of healer not cleansing oversurge between sets of orbs then
pallid quiver
If that's the case, you might be able to awkwardly kite him away from some orbs if you need to for stacks to drop
strong forum
Spellblock works against everything on that boss, Sr+Demo shout, during this Windows you can easily soak multiple orbs, just make sure to watch the overlaps with the tankbuster
median tulip
So was that just a dps baiting me and we are only supposed to take 2 max per cyc...
You gotta watch the debuff; when I'm healing I dispell the tank at 3 stacks. But if you try to take a 4th without the debuff going away it WILL kill you
jagged pier
Straight up, I've played this game on every skill level this and last season exc...
actually true impossible to get into 0s in less than 500 ilvl atm
for some reason
pallid quiver
it's because they're looking for people to carry their 378 DPS to gear
strong forum
By far
median tulip
actually true impossible to get into 0s in less than 500 ilvl atm
Because the party leader will be 450ish and wants someone to carry him
round thicket
Gotcha thanks, Im surprised I never ran into this issue with orbs before maybe I didnt do much AA when it was S1
pallid quiver
Casuals are the 2nd most toxic in my experience; the most toxic in my experience are the people who think they're pro and try to act pro
but they have zero idea what they're doing, and it's only backed by them being like mid-skill level, so they're better than the casuals to give them fuel for their fire
median tulip
Gotcha thanks, Im surprised I never ran into this issue with orbs before maybe I...
Season 1 was a loooooong time ago
pallid quiver
But it would not surprise me if, as a whole, casuals were the most toxic as a whole
median tulip
Casuals are the 2nd most toxic in my experience; the most toxic in my experience...
I would classify myself as "mid skill level". Some of these people are just terrible
pallid quiver
some of those types of people just physically can't see the proof of them doing any wrong or something; one of my friends knows a few people like this, and they're convinced logs are faked
since it shows that they're worse than they think they are, which is incorrect
strong forum
Casuals are the 2nd most toxic in my experience; the most toxic in my experience...
Also known as half wits
median tulip
I had a guy in my guild once; he literally wouldn't look at logs
jagged pier
like 99% of ppl don tlook at logs properly
rapid jewel
coming reset we have all raids open or still rotation?
pallid quiver
coming reset we have all raids open or still rotation?
should rotate through one more set iirc
median tulip
coming reset we have all raids open or still rotation?
Rotation for another 3 weeks; week 7 is all raids IIRC
jagged pier
week 7 is when we get all
strong forum
That's what we assume but there's no official saying beyond the first bluepost which corrected itself with the original 2 week per fair rotation
plush tendon
This meme is always so true
pallid quiver
like 99% of ppl don tlook at logs properly
Even when you point people to the specific stats, some people just are completely illiterate. They were convinced they were handling everything during a pull once, absolute confident that it was the person they didn't know's fault the pull failed at the start of Halls of Valor, and not them, but I showed them the logs of them having literally 0 interrupts
strong forum
I just press buttons
pallid quiver
and they just went "nu uh"
jagged pier
see that meme would be true but i just press buttons and im not having fun
hence why im not playing
plush tendon
strong forum
I'm having fun and I press buttons
pallid quiver
it's me, i'm on the left