Lord karnage
#protection
warm plinth
lusty tiger
Pog
graceful cobalt
hi guys how you handle on rise the last Boss? I used spelreflection magical ban and hold IP up but his dot kills me
compact palm
Log angle
graceful cobalt
what you mean?
compact palm
Post log in the log channel so we can see what u are doing and help
fallow nova
Does d stance reduce dot damage?
echo egret
Is there any way (through weakauras ?) to know when a spell was blocked thanks to spb, when it wouldn’t have been otherwise ?
The issue I’m seeing is that all non-melee damage is called « spell damage » in the combat events.
graceful cobalt
was full run on def stance
warm plinth
Does d stance reduce dot damage?
It reduces all damage
jagged pier
something hes also been told in the past
cerulean tusk
fallow nova
It reduces all damage
I thought so, I just notice a lot of folks avoid using it on full fights, but as highlighted above they were already using it anyway.
jagged pier
u dont use d stance if u dont need too
even for dots
and if your looking at logs it wont tell u if they start in d stance doesnt track the time in a stance unless u change
graceful cobalt
i play def stance becouse to stay alive. 24er hurts hard
jagged pier
I can almost guarentee on a 24 d stance isnt making or breaking anything, but if u want to use it im not gunna stop u
warm plinth
Yeah, most likely if you feel like you need to be in Def stance full time, there's some fundamental gameplay issues contributing to that
jagged pier
please do not response with the classic:
pugs,
gnarlroot,
or another very specific scenario where u should be using d stance anyway as to why u are running it all the time
compact palm
Can u skip with nightelf war like vdh does with misery but with intim
jagged pier
no
compact palm
My dreams crushed
jagged pier
as u have to get into aggro range to use it prett y much
graceful cobalt
Jakey everyone plays like it feels comfortabler for him. I don´t need to do that much dps or be a full dd. My job as Tank is to hold the aggro and stay alive as long and easy as possible so yeah i play with def trinklets and d stance for dps i have good dd.
jagged pier
my point is u stay alive by playing correctly not being in d stance with defensive trinkets
urban bane
when the object of m+ is to time the key, damage plays an important role in that. So your job is also to do damage.
tribal wharf
when the object of m+ is to time the key, damage plays an important role in that...
"if you are dead your dps is zero"
raid mate in original wrath
jagged pier
so the staying a live arguement means very little espeically at a 24 lvl where tanks arent in trouble at all if played correctly
if u were doing 28s
urban bane
Yogi piss off kindly
waxen frigate
"if you are dead your dps is zero"
Try not getting hit in the back that will help
urban portal
tank death has not been the bottleneck since Shadowlands
jagged pier
then its a different story
urban portal
its more common for DPS to run tank trinkets than tanks at high keys
jagged pier
^^
tribal wharf
dps die more easily
waxen frigate
Also depends on the key but that’s in like the 29-30 range
waxen frigate
^ tankiness isn’t a relevant factor other than a few specific bosses in bleeding edge keys
tribal wharf
dps dying to me is a dps and healer communication issue for the most part
unless i put cleave on you
blazing condor
at the high keys its usually just one shot abilities
many bosses have high damage burst abilties for whatever reason
tribal wharf
i wonder what the key is before fort infected thorns just starts 1 tick 1 shotting you
dps/healers i mean
thats the "/s /p kick or cleanse or die"
blazing condor
why would you do /s if youre gonna do /p anyway
winged slate
Consider etch - even at 20, it hurts pretty bad
tribal wharf
often i am in /say because ill join a key and not bother to do the /p
winged slate
Throw on a few key levels and it's less of a healer issue and more of a defensive issue
tribal wharf
what is it with etch that screws you besides the non interupt
doesnt stun you also does it
cuz it feels like if it goes on healer and no answer GG
winged slate
It's just high damage, you have to use defensives and heal through it
tribal wharf
well, whenever my healers get it, they fall over
winged slate
Imagine 5 more key levels worth of damage on etch
blazing condor
its been done on 32
hazy bronze
Do you skip them or just LoS shenanigans?
graceful cobalt
i have Razan Sandclock Nullificatinb as Trinkets aswell so i should play with Sandglas and Razan?
blazing condor
Do you skip them or just LoS shenanigans?
guess it depend on witch rotation
unless they removed that
graceful cobalt
for Nullification and scale?
blazing condor
i have Razan Sandclock Nullificatinb as Trinkets aswell so i should play with Sa...
you should sim it and see whats best, id imagine its those two
graceful cobalt
sim says razan+ sandglas(hasteproc trinket) brings a push of 9k dps
blazing condor
then play those 
uneven mason
That little Dino chonky when he procs
warm plinth
Do you skip them or just LoS shenanigans?
The witch rotation is fixed now but you have to kill at least one since both basement entrances have one on the way.
There's always a soul charmer (soul bolt/volley witch) by witches boss and there's always a runeweaver in the kitchen by Raal
tribal wharf
i for a brief second read 596 as 5% lmao
i was like no fuckin wy
this ones great season 4 one as well from dungeon pool
i also am looking forward to getting the hooves trinket too
waxen frigate
This trinket is atrociously bad
tribal wharf
that means i have to have it then
blazing condor
i ran the seedpod in the beginning of the xpac when i didnt have anything else
it honestly wasn't crazy bad
just not good
worked pretty fine as a defensive on-use since you'd almost always have max stacks
and 30 sec cd
tribal wharf
i mean there is maybe fated type trinkets
so, obviously any of those is going to be way better
blazing condor
god i love raid spamming
its so fun and exciting every time
especially when you lose loot rolls
warm plinth
Just win 4Head
violet ginkgo
just roll 100 5head
tribal wharf
100 is what you roll on a world quest green with 1 other guy in your party, so you can later roll 18 on item in raid
waxen frigate
Sometimes you just get an itch to do world quests for a week
tribal wharf
hey now, i need all the friggin war resources i can get my hands on
WQ good source of those,
waxen frigate
Wtf do you even use those for
tribal wharf
transmog collection
just anything on ATT lists
i was down to 38.X k left and now im at 26.X k
dunno why
cerulean tusk
I would help you, but I have no clue what war resources are or why you would ever get them.
Wild guess - flowerblooms?
tribal wharf
the best source i have found is the purple seed chests in the dream zone
each one drops 20-50
waxen frigate
Yogi let me see your transmog
urban portal
yogi is the 99% that wow designers make the game for
tribal wharf
i tagged u in the transmog nish
hell, i'd argue thats true, since 99% of players dont do mythic raids
urban portal
99% of players dont do heroic raids
cerulean tusk
99% seems like a stretch. If I had to ballpark it, I would guess 10% ish dabbled in some mythic raiding. 20% same but HC. 10% same but normal.
Cutting edge or M+30s, then we talking the 0.1%, mythic gnarlroot or m18? 10-20% sounds likely
Yogi, is in the top 10% tho
As he does 20s
I am triggered by the name not being Yogi tho
Anyone with admin contacts, ask for them to swap his name back?
urban portal
99% seems like a stretch. If I had to ballpark it, I would guess 10% ish dabbled...
nah theres no way 40% of players raid
first google link says like 5% of players have aotc
tribal wharf
once df over, i will never ever interact with the system ever again
to get more resource
supply im sory
cerulean tusk
nah theres no way 40% of players raid
Fair, but I said dabble in HC raid, not completion. Most normal raiding guilds do some HC.
The tier under is the players who do a few bosses in normal, for one reason or another. Not dedicated raiders.
urban portal
so you said 40% of players stepped foot in normal at least?
i still think thats really high
cerulean tusk
Is it?
urban portal
there are many players all they do is farm mogs, level alts, and do m+
cerulean tusk
Fair, but 60% doing that and avoiding raids, sounds high enough in itself
urban portal
cerulean tusk
especially since M+rs want something from raid
urban portal
this is what i see from SL
urban portal
ye but youd think the percentage is similar
cerulean tusk
Nah, we better off than in SL
100%
Not playernumbers, perhaps, but ppl trying raid?
Got to
urban portal
if an expac is good then the % of players who dont raid has to be higher
cerulean tusk
Sure, but getting into the raid is easier than ever
Normal isnt that scary
Usually my casual friends go on about how they dont dare try normal - this tier, they gave it a go
tribal wharf
someday i hope AVGN do a thing on warcraft games
tribal wharf
it would be such a collasal task to cover mmos for him hed have to work with someone like asmon
cerulean tusk
Understandable, but - it is something
urban portal
one of our execs literally talks about anecdotes all the time and our data is just conflicting with his anecdotes
but he listens to us
cerulean tusk
Well, our discussion right now - is a bit different
urban portal
theres an incredible amounts of people who are so addicted to this game
yet never touches endgame content
i find it crazy
cerulean tusk
If I at work, where data is avaible and hard, became a matter of personal opions and that jazz...
oof
urban portal
like just farming mogs, pet battles, level chars
cerulean tusk
People not touching the raid at all, well, 60% sounds to be about right
Man, you are so right tho
urban portal
yeah at the lowest, but i think more than 60% dont touch raid
cerulean tusk
My view is so freaking scewed
urban portal
im gonna bring up an anecdote here, but there was one guy on reddit who said he was addicted to wow for 15 years
i cant even be bothered to play this game for more than i have to
he asked blizz to nuke his account
im not sure what is there to be addicted to
you can only raid so much a week, you need a group to get anywhere in m+
cerulean tusk
Escapism is hell'o'adrug
Heck, I myself fall within the addicted portion. I would say. As I play more than my peers, doing the content with me. Why?
Well, fun? Not only, I also do it because - it is what I have done for so long
tribal wharf
Theres a reason those call of duties and grand theft autos and postal games were so popular
stuff you have demented day dreams about but cant do (legally) in real life
cerulean tusk
Yogi, change your name back to Yogi 
tribal wharf
the bear has left the cave
cerulean tusk
💀
cerulean tusk
WoW prog raiding is fun, and friend/meme keys
hardy snow
shieet
hardy snow
https://tenor.com/view/are-ya-winning-son-gif-18099517
nope
lusty grotto
blazing condor
Tried to beat timer on bomb?
hardy snow
Tried to beat timer on bomb?
nah, just one of flying guy died before getting orb 
jagged pier
thats why u send your immunitys up as well on the other feathers incase someone dies
blazing condor
U guys hyped for s4? :)))
uneven mason
See y'all in tww
echo egret
In Rise, is it the commend trend now to go to Morchie first ?
waxen frigate
In higher keys yes due to lust timings
But it depends on route
And your actual timing in the key
For example if you lust first pull it’s probably battlefield first but if you lust tyr it’s probably Morchie first
Since you want lust for battlefield
oblique garnet
U guys hyped for s4? :)))
waxen frigate
Usually on tyrannical it tends to be:
Lust Tyr>Lust Battlefield>Lust Last
Fortified is often:
Lust first pull>lust double dragons>lust battlefield or last
oblique garnet
wind oak
tribal wharf
blazing condor
that quest was cool tbf
tribal wharf
bring back the guy responsible for these quests plz
blazing condor
not to mention the whole "the day deathwing came" quest-series
tribal wharf
or anybody who thinks like him, give him free reign to make all the stupid quests they want, porbably should be in control of WQ
grim pilot
Usually on tyrannical it tends to be:
Lust Tyr>Lust Battlefield>Lust Last
usually you'll lust first pull instead of on tyr too on tyra
waxen frigate
usually you'll lust first pull instead of on tyr too on tyra
I’ve seen both but imo first pull is better ye
waxen frigate
I think lusting Tyr himself is a waste
blazing condor
not very time efficient
blazing condor
you offset first lust by like 5-6 minutes and then you dont really get it back for anything important
tribal wharf
blazing condor
well a couple of mins
grim pilot
it's like 4 mins
tribal wharf
oh well hes part of a escort quest
compact palm
Just lust on cd in rise and pull around it or u miss a lust
tribal wharf
and hes in a cave and i have to rescue him? and hes a dumass? fuck that guy, why was he wanderin around in the cave? who let the dumass near the caves again?
tribal wharf
have to tell guy like that "no no dumass, you cant go near the caves again, theres bears and wolves and shit up there, remember they attacked you last time?"
spiders? so yazma? okay, im on his side, lets bust this bastard out
echo egret
Since you want lust for battlefield
After the nerfs, do we still need Lust for the battlefield ?
lusty grotto
oh boy
lusty grotto
err
lusty grotto
its a different client
tribal wharf
im sorry but you already know it lmfao
game has a hard time handling 40 man raids in pvp battlegro unds
tribal wharf
well, hopefully it works
lusty grotto
🤷
tribal wharf
i am intrigued and optomisitic, but skeptical
lusty grotto
strong forum
thats a hard skip from me pal
toxic pewter
Osnap I’m mega excited
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
Gonna play this nonstop
lusty grotto
i know why youre happy apb
toxic pewter
Actually gonna be fun
lusty grotto
Omg you still don’t have any heroic fyrakk trinkets
ye
toxic pewter
I’ve been pvping for last two months
dusky canopy
That’s how I look at it too
Now when my weekly list is finished on my main instead of afking in valdraken I can fool around in a wow br
Assuming it turns out to be fun
I like the choice they made to restrict ui and limit keybinds
It will help attract more players
dusky canopy
At first glance it seems like they’ll need to expand on it fairly quickly though
strong forum
cuz it wouldve needed a 400% buff to compete with current set
and these tierset buffs, arent even 100%
dusky canopy
im rly glad that pwar s1 tierset didnt win
Could you imagine
S3 is bis for all 3 warrior specs imo
strong forum
dunno about fury
but im rly sad people just picked the "bigger number" set for arms
dusky canopy
The fury dudes voted for s2 though because they don’t like Anni build
I think Anni build is better
grim pilot
but im rly sad people just picked the "bigger number" set for arms
honestly idc s1 or s3
but I do enjoy
tribal wharf
crisis core finally came on sale so im downloading that + others on steam today
grim pilot
the tclap execute a lot
dusky canopy
I think Anni build is better
Subjective ofc
waxen frigate
S3 is bis for all 3 warrior specs imo
S3 fury boring
lusty grotto
idk what im gonna do for fated
i really didnt wanna play arms s1
but i have no idea how to play fury s2
dusky canopy
Arms s1 is still playable it’s just lamo to cleave spam in dungeons
Raid is still good
toxic pewter
Kinda crazy season 3 arms didn’t win. The sudden death procs are fun in my opinion
toxic pewter
In pvp it’s fun too
lusty grotto
uneven mason
Kinda crazy season 3 arms didn’t win. The sudden death procs are fun in my opini...
Lemmings thinking things were better for warriors in S1, it's why S1 prot almost won
That would've been disastrous
hardy snow
so same as now
urban portal
i love 4% dps
uneven mason
I mean same as now, without TR resets, TC resets, Fervent damage.
Less TC resets means less SS resets, more revenge which is slower outburst stacks, slower am.... it's really quite bad
Our tier set is really propping us up
In ways most don't think about
jagged pier
lul TRUE
blazing condor
usually i "quit" and then come back when new stuff drops
but this time
i cant see myself doing that
ionic fern
So..the rewards from the event is just tmog and mounts?
warm plinth
but i have no idea how to play fury s2
It's not hard. It's a bit faster than now. And you don't have odyn's fury and don't press bloodthirst as often.
ionic fern
So..
jagged pier
warlock keys when?.....
ionic fern
Exactly.
That seems such a irrelevant thing to keep "hidden".
I was hopeing for something actually decent.
jagged pier
i did that 9 on my vdh this week
ionic fern
Come tank my AD 11.
jagged pier
that was a mistake
ionic fern
jagged pier
vestal moat
gusty willow
tribal wharf
how come blizzard so obessed with pirates now
not that pirates suck or arent cool
its really fork knife?
urban portal
but i have no idea how to play fury s2
tape down raging blows
rampage when it lights up
cds on cd
thats it
azure nimbus
Retails will be empty in S4.....
waxen frigate
Retails will be empty in S4.....
Ok
lucid zealot
If I’m ending runs 20+ with 70-80% uptime on SB, am I doing it right
jagged pier
Uptime means nothing cant tell yah
Only blocked hits can tell us
And u need to log for that
U can have ypur back to all the mobs and block nothing 🤷 still show 80% uptime tho cause youll have the buff on u
dusky canopy
If I’m ending runs 20+ with 70-80% uptime on SB, am I doing it right
You want 100% blocked hits but actually shoot for like 95+
uneven mason
but i have no idea how to play fury s2
Spam RB until 5 stacks, then rampage
It's painfully counterintuitive
Dobt spend your rage
cerulean tusk
what am I reading in here, RB until 5 stacks?
jagged pier
Why are we talking about fury in the prot channel
warm plinth
Yeah idk what he's talking about
cerulean tusk
Gives me the "Why not use WW to hit 360 around you, instead of revenge?" vibes
Oh, on that note: WW with 2hander pumps
warm plinth
I'm super psyched for fury s2 set again
tribal wharf
echo egret
Fucking hell, nothing about that horrendous bleed from the crocs....
stray gazelle
They forgot to tweak some buffs for prot in patch notes oof
warm plinth
What buffs are needed?
stray gazelle
Gimme dat ignore pain to like 55%
warm plinth
Kek
warm plinth
I'll do you
warm plinth
Will, would, who cares
I'm sure one is technically correct but both work for me
As a dumb murican
echo egret
The only buff prot warriors need, is a nerf to DH stupid control abilities and paladins utility abilities.
tribal wharf
so what you mean is buff warrior
warm plinth
Agreed. More damage would be nice.
tribal wharf
the problem with protection warior is once it gets too big their isnt room for anything else
echo egret
Fair, but that wouldn't be enough to compete in M+
tribal wharf
they just get too crazy at some point and has to be reworked and nerfed
warm plinth
I think Jakey was just talking in terms of an actual buff that we need
jagged pier
It literally fine for m+
Like what its 1-2 lvls behind
Why ppl complain about the .1%
I dont get it
warm plinth
And only at the top end
I do get frustrated in specific circumstances though tbf
Because i know if I was on my dh or pally I could deal with x situation much easier
echo egret
It's fine in a premade. In the pug world, what you can actually do matters less than what people think they can't achieve if they take you.
tribal wharf
in pug world 20 requires MDI strats
waxen frigate
Why ppl complain about the .1%
Trickles down and makes pugging harder
But that’s a community problem
echo egret
Well I can tell you I'm refused in more than 70% of the pugs I apply to.
jagged pier
And the pug arguement gettig real old we all know how the community is
Bit that doesnt mean warrior isnt fine for m+
echo egret
Sadly, pugging is my life.
jagged pier
That was the orinigal statement
Might be bad to pug that has nothing to do witht he class being bad, but with the community
And there will always be a number 1 2 3 4 5 and 6
waxen frigate
You just have to work harder for similar results ultimately and people bitch about that
waxen frigate
And there will always be a number 1 2 3 4 5 and 6
Facts
echo egret
But it's "easier" to fix a spec by buffing it, than chagning the community's perception
waxen frigate
No it’s not
jagged pier
Yes but all ppl do when they suggest buffs is give the class soething thats a niche of the top tank at the time
Your literally asking for the class to be made into x class
waxen frigate
No matter how good something gets, you think people will invite you if perception stays the same?
strange atlas
I'm a new prot warrior. Can anyone tell me of there's a good spell reflection weak aura that tells you when an incoming spell can be reflected?
jagged pier
Thats nit asking for a buff thats u might as well re roll at that point
waxen frigate
Warrior in SL S4 was probsbly second best tank in the game but everyone wrote it off due to difficulty
echo egret
What made prot warrior top 1 in season 1 ?
warm plinth
Other tanks were worse
jagged pier
Community perception
waxen frigate
What made prot warrior top 1 in season 1 ?
Literally nothing
echo egret
Exactly
waxen frigate
Several top players said ppal from day 1
But warrior was just super sturdy out of the gate
jagged pier
Palasin was number 1 in m+ before the changes and monk and dbk where best for raid
waxen frigate
And good in raid
waxen frigate
I’d say warr and monk were pretty even in raid personally but ye definitely behind BDK
warm plinth
Well, they didn't have ALL the utility.
waxen frigate
Vdh still had all the utility in s1
Well not relative to vdh now
jagged pier
I’d say warr and monk were pretty even in raid personally but ye definitely behi...
Nah mpnk could ignore the absorbs from 2nd last it edges out
waxen frigate
Nah mpnk could ignore the absorbs from 2nd last it edges out
We could but not as hard as BDK
jagged pier
Well not relative to vdh now
Still had more than warrior tho
waxen frigate
Monk was definitely best add tank and 2nd best boss tank
Also weren’t the warr Dps specs kinda bad or am I not remembering
echo egret
My point is, give me a battle rez, or the ability to counter one of the stupid affixes, and my M+ life will be much less frustrating. It's stupid, but that's how it is at the moment.
warm plinth
But the thing with vdh being giga right now is that we're in a season with old dungeons where a lot of casts happen at the same time and spam cast. Almost all of the dragonflight dungeons don't have that situation.
waxen frigate
I raided with noxiv so that wasn’t a discussion for us lmao
waxen frigate
But the thing with vdh being giga right now is that we're in a season with old d...
Double Sigils are still broken
Just exacerbated
By dungeon pool
warm plinth
Right but my point is that it won't be AS good in the next season
Like 90% of dangerous trash in DF dungeons was changed to not cast dangerous shit at the same time, which makes aoe stops less effective
waxen frigate
Silence Sigil is more than just a stop though
strange atlas
I'm a new prot warrior. Can anyone tell me of there's a good spell reflection weak aura that tells you when an incoming spell can be reflected?
strange atlas
I did I didn't see a weak aura mention
strange atlas
I found one that only works for dps
warm plinth
Silence Sigil is more than just a stop though
Yes but less casts means less that silence sigil prevents
warm plinth
Yeah
violet ginkgo
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24057476/dragonflight-plunderstorm-content-update-notes
Welp more shield but less damage for rageheart
uneven mason
https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24057476/dragonflight-plundersto...
I love how they finally get around to fixing ulduar
tribal wharf
priest pull no longer stops the mage from casting pyro
this is good
The following dungeon trinkets have been significantly reworked:
Tome of Unstable Power
Umbrelskul's Fractured Heart
Globe of Jagged Ice
Water's Beating Heart
Granyth's Enduring Scale
Inexorable Resonator
trinket r changing reeee
violet ginkgo
Those are from all DF dungeon right?
I barely remember any trinkets' effect from DF's dungeon
tribal wharf
ya
we onlyt use the scale
every other one of those trinket is healer/int or agi dps
oh..... and .... you..... its you.... oh god......
i pray every night that i never see that in my vault
tribal wharf
ahh, seems a bit better now
solemn current
It's more main stat then the others. Not sure if tooltip error or intentional
violet ginkgo
hmmm since I joined on very late S2 and early S3.... is there any trinket from DF's dungeon or Vault/Aberrus that we want? seems like augury/rageheart combo is like already really good
tribal wharf
i wonder if/whty didnt buff/change the seed trinket
urban portal
it seems worse
tbh
its an absorb you cant control
and it only does damage while its up
violet ginkgo
yeah random activation and if 1,5 min occur once means rageheart will always be better.
it's controllable
urban portal
and thats not even looking at the tuning
tribal wharf
well, they are changing dreadplates to auto detonate at end of duration
so, maybe i want that, depends if the 1 item thing is true or not
solemn current
I'm actually just looking at the 144 main stat vs 96 on similar ilvl trinkets. The extra main stat could give it more value if it's not an error.
urban portal
I'm actually just looking at the 144 main stat vs 96 on similar ilvl trinkets. T...
im gonna pretend its an error
solemn current
solemn current
And yea possibly an error
Would make the trinket a potential take despite it's uncontrollable proc though.
tribal wharf
tribal wharf
hmmm weird
urban portal
you are literally not listening to what we are saying
you are not a kid yogi
listen to what other people says
tribal wharf
well, wowhead isnt totally accurate with the stat number that appears
tribal wharf
thats what im blaming it on
urban portal
and you are rambling about stamina
solemn current
Even if it's not a wowhead error it might be a blizzard error and likely fix it immediately but still had me looking at it regardless.
tribal wharf
ye, i didnt know precisely what you were on about, i ifgured since i showed that image and then someone showed the updated thats what it could have been about
violet ginkgo
btw what was the "fated" season like? I heard we have rotating raid weekly? but if the raid change weekly isn't it harder to target certain item?
urban portal
thats what dinars are for
torn gulch
btw what was the "fated" season like? I heard we have rotating raid weekly? but ...
there is a thing called dinar
torn gulch
which you use to buy targeted items from vendors
urban portal
but in general theres not that many chase items
2 trinkets+weapon
shields are all interchangable
torn gulch
but apparently you only get 1?
might be a bug this time unless there is no rotation this time and you have all 3 every week
urban portal
1 seems too little
torn gulch
yes we had 3 in sl
urban portal
ye i remember
torn gulch
but we had raid rotation
urban portal
maybe they dont like it
i cant imagine not having raid rotation for the first month
you are splitting playerbase too hard
tribal wharf
1 could just be a placeholder number that was set for testing and then discovered by someone
and then the gm just gives him self more
violet ginkgo
ah I see..... thx ronin and homo for the explanation. I never experienced fated season before. Retire from MoP and just comeback basically at S3 DF.
torn gulch
i think we'll have 3 and for first 6 weeks we have rotation then all 3
tribal wharf
my guess is 3 or 5
tribal wharf
why lol
urban portal
also maybe the cap is 1
tribal wharf
how can that be broken ummmm lemme think............... rage heart...... .. whatever the second one is from current raid, the new pogstorm thingy from raid .,..... and then ??? and ???
urban portal
you have to spend it before you want the next
tribal wharf
maybe the fire ring from s1?
torn gulch
if we have 3 i'll go golak, rageheart and probably ring
lego seems that it will have a separate upgrade track
tribal wharf
i cant think of any other item that you could equip at the same time that would make that more overpowered
urban portal
your 2 bis raid trinkets+wild card
tribal wharf
and then we 20 bacon the boss
and hes extra crisp
how about 3 for drops to use and 2 seperate coins for transmog option to make 5
timid thicket
What do you think about forgestorm vs gholak?
That maxed out forgestorm cranked in m+
warm plinth
Gholak will be better
waxen frigate
Forgestorm doesn’t have as much stats so ye
urban portal
gholak has secondaries right
waxen frigate
And primary
waxen frigate
But I think some degree of reduction
warm plinth
I guess it's possible forgestorm might be better in pure single target? But would have to see the updated ilevel numbers first. Gholak is gonna win any time adds exist though because of the 400% bonus for sure.
toxic pewter
they should let us just be able to upgrade our gholak or gear we already got
warm plinth
Forgestorm was notoriously inconsistent
True as well
dusky canopy
Towards the end of the season people were running max ilvl weapons for MT instead of forgestorm* iirc
warm plinth
Instead of forgestorm you mean?
warm plinth
But yeah I'm pretty sure forgestorm only ever beat a weapon like 3 ilevel higher. Meanwhile even a normal gholak is beating everything except better gholak
dusky canopy
Gholak is pog for sure
My heroic track one has been rotting in my bags for like 8 weeks
Been dpsing
toxic pewter
SERVERS UP NA
dusky canopy
SERVERS UP NA
oak ivy
help: myth eggshell with leech or hero pip's
for context i am turbo late to the season and my current trinkets are champion heart of darkness and hero porcelain crab
quaint fog
I think this is cool, but I’m kind of worried they’re going to milk us dry with battle pass in addition to trading post tenders
dusky canopy
Egg shell is real bad
quaint fog
does wowhead have a BiS for trinkets list?
dusky canopy
Ofc yes
quartz cape
what do people think of the servant splitter
I would be going from a heroic to mythic but it doesnt seem to have secondaries which is weird
tribal wharf
wait wait wait i know
i said battle royale! not war within spoilers!
that looks like a really spooky place, with the giant bug shadow int he background like a statue momument left for thousands of years
god damn insects, i mean, makes sense hes living under the ground
waxen frigate
yogi
tribal wharf
it was the bot not doing as i asked
blazing condor
what do people think of the servant splitter
Servant splitter is pretty good - you want to have Gholak from fyrakk though
should sim it to see
waxen frigate
what do people think of the servant splitter
straight worse than gholak
but fine if you dont have that yet
tribal wharf
now THIS is the results i wanted
last one, spell block
this is peak protection warrior fantasy, i love this one
quartz cape
thanks all I dont have the fryakk weap so I will take it
also how is simming for prot? does it just give me best dps or actually help
tribal wharf
come on no hose town vault, may have lied about last pic, last non pwar picture i can clarify now,
one of the guys here has some formual to put in the raid bot dps thingy
i cant recall but its so many minutes on x so many on y so many on z
dog shit vault lol
craggy pilot
anyone know if the new gamemode requires sub?
toxic pewter
anyone know if the new gamemode requires sub?
Yes it does
craggy pilot
ah ok thx
tribal wharf
well, vault wasnt a TOTAL wash
blazing condor
also how is simming for prot? does it just give me best dps or actually help
it helps you because it gives you the best dps
only sims for damage
besides going defensive trinkets you just wanna stack damage cus it correlates with survivability as well
aka haste/crit will help you both offensively and defensively
tribal wharf
i got a 489 belt from vault, still not 488 ilvl and 1600k hp
lusty tiger
but fine if you dont have that yet
Wb if I have a Nish
lusty grotto
royal kelp
can anyone plz help me with a macro that will cast ravager on myself with @player when i hit the keybind but will cast it @cursor if i hit any of the mod keys with the keybind? right now it always casts on me, even if i hit a mod key and i've tried a few ways to write the macro. i'm not sure which mod key i want to use, so i just wanted to have the option to try all 3 until i figure it out. i have a lot of other macros that just use the [mod] argument and they work with alt, ctrl or shift just fine but for some reason ravager seems to just be ignoring it. thanks!
warm plinth
can anyone plz help me with a macro that will cast ravager on myself with @playe...
#showtooltip
/cast [mod,@cursor][@player]Ravager
waxen frigate
Yogi Twitter leak??
warm plinth
100%
royal kelp
#showtooltip
/cast [mod,@cursor][@player]Ravager
that's what i had and it just casts it on me 😦
i have no clue why
royal kelp
oh snap i didnt think of that O_o
it was on auto
i put it on none and key and it works lol >.<
thx
molten pollen
im kinda confused like with prot war you need shield block on 100% with ignore pain for raid? but i still take like 200m damage O_o
warm plinth
200 million damage from what?
cinder dirge
cuz i take like 2 dmg in raid
cmon Nymue hits pretty hard sometimes 🤣
strong forum
well sure but thats only during overlap
of 100% dmg taken increase
where you save CDs for
hazy bronze
Maybe 200,000?
urban portal
200k is a scratch in the current ilevel
queen valley
Hello all, newish to Prot and wondering why my damage seems so low. I am 464 ilvl and did 79k overall only in a +17. This is my details after. Do my top spells look way off?
violet ginkgo
Hello all, newish to Prot and wondering why my damage seems so low. I am 464 ilv...
you need to proc your fervid more. that is for sure
also post your log to Will for review maybe he can tell you more
queen valley
you need to proc your fervid more. that is for sure
How can I control that? Isn’t it just from Shield Slam? Which seems like that’s all I’m doing really.
violet flume
ignore pain has a really high chance to proc fervid which can be consumed
all excess rage should be going to IP, dont cap on rage
and preferably wait until you shield slammed before casting IP again
ionic fern
Hello all, newish to Prot and wondering why my damage seems so low. I am 464 ilv...
Low SS,too high Revenge,low Thunder Clap,low IP.
unkempt fox
ionic fern
No.
tribal wharf
Yogi Twitter leak??
ugh
waxen frigate
Hi yogi
tribal wharf
doom is so........ its so good......... right... but its like mario or megaman
waxen frigate
I got a new computer yesterday
tribal wharf
its really basic ass shit
normie shit
imma go play a video game im gunna play doom and mario 64 and donkey kong country...........
ya ... all that shit is great. but its really kinda passe for me
i've already seen doom and played it million different ways, in a sense never want to play it again, more important to me cuz shows players and future devs whats possible in gaming
doom is like the tutorial to all fps games
oh sweet new pc, congrats
tribal wharf
ya, i cant be bothered switch to a new cpu/mobo/ram atm
usually what i do is i get 2 gpus per generation, and then 1 cpu ram per 5 years ish
waxen frigate
I was on my 2017 gpu still
Upgraded cpu in 2021ish courtesy of a very generous friend
So I was on Vega 56/r5 3600/16gb ram
tribal wharf
never has there been more true statement
blazing condor
dont swear
tribal wharf
im not really into the whole plunder thing atm besides "mount"
ionic fern
He got manually modded for that.
tribal wharf
ya, peace
ionic fern
Diddn't even do anything.
lusty grotto
ionic fern
Agreed.
waxen frigate
Based
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
ionic fern
Exactly.
tribal wharf
some kinda gas lighting or some thing going on there lol
manuall modded but didnt do anything :S
ionic fern
waxen frigate
I gotchu <@135532750890467329>
Thank you sir
waxen frigate
what the fuck happened to my weak auras
Patch with API changes and no PTR happened
Update your addons
lusty grotto
everything looks good except my portal weekaura is in the middle of the screen
tribal wharf
Gonna write a manifesto about Mwahi
i don't write manifestos
sorry to burst your bubble
waxen frigate
i don't write manifestos
Didn’t ask
tribal wharf
you talked about it
and like i posted my video and didnt ask about the advice
still got it
lusty grotto
get fucked nish
tribal wharf
you are posting in public spot, so i have right to weigh in
waxen frigate
still got it
Got ur mom
Yogi take your shirt off let’s fight bareknuckle boxing first to draw blood wins
ionic fern
and like i posted my video and didnt ask about the advice
If you post a video without asking for advise, you post it to #promotion.
🤷
tribal wharf
i posted it cuz the meme here by you guys is "yogi 20 when"
"he cant do a 20"
and i just don't like that line of dialogue, had enough talking about it, i did it
i want to move on from that
i'm tired of being the fucking clown, okay,
find someone else to laugh at.
thank you
ionic fern
Are you ok Yogi?
No one cares about how you do - what we cared about was giving you advise, as you were asking for it.
ionic fern
I can just mute you if it helps?
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
warm plinth
Good, I'm about to go to work 😴
warm plinth
ionic fern
You tried the new Plunder thingy?
warm plinth
Yeah I played it for a couple hours last night with a friend
tribal wharf
ya, it sucks
ionic fern
Any decent?
warm plinth
I liked it but I'm really bad at PvP so we tried to just go to the edges of the map and vibe as much as we could
tribal wharf
its not it sucks its not for me, not right now, besides mount, i do it for mount
ionic fern
I liked it but I'm really bad at PvP so we tried to just go to the edges of the ...
Ah, okay.
warm plinth
We got our asses kicked every time we fought people; think we only got maybe 5 kills the entire time
But a big part of that is that we weren't dropping into the good loot zones so people already had levels and better abilities by the time they met us XD
I think if you don't take it too seriously, it's pretty cool.
gloomy vortex
Did we expect no prot warrior changes mentioned for season 4?
warm plinth
Yes
gloomy vortex
I see a lot of classes getting tier buff
warm plinth
Our tier scales with our damage already; it didn't need to be scaled.
gloomy vortex
Which season tier did we go for?
lusty grotto
i need to try it ghash
gloomy vortex
Really, thought s1 when we were meta would have been best
lusty grotto
maybe later today or w/e
warm plinth
Our S1 tier was ass compared to this one
warm plinth
And we were meta kind of out of a mistake lol
Prot paladin was better from the start; it's why they were meta by the end of the season.
They were already taking over before their rework
In any case, no one's tier set had a say in the meta
All S1 tier bonuses were mediocre
lusty grotto
at least not in s1
cause bear comes to mind in s2
and that was largely due to their set
waxen frigate
Bear was more due to rework
warm plinth
Bear getting s2 back is gonna be interesting
lusty grotto
yup
warm plinth
Honestly I'm just glad to see the stupid rots bonus go away
lusty grotto
cries in arms
warm plinth
Did you not get the bonus you wanted?
tribal wharf
phew, de-aggroed the boss,
blazing condor
tribal wharf
oh well, i dunno, maybe ill do the plunder thingy,
warm plinth
Jeez for them to get s1 their tier bonuses must suck lol
lusty grotto
its gonna need a lot of tuning
wind oak
which is ass
You sir need to stop spreading misinformation
lusty grotto
pressing cleave is ass
wind oak
Do you even play Arms
lusty grotto
pressing SD is better
blazing condor
it was also my understanding that S1 wasn't the good outcome
lusty grotto
also we have no IP rage consumption anymore
so even if s1 was good in the later half
its not anymore
wind oak
If you dont play Arms for a full tier of shitty SD proc do you even
Yeah ok @lusty grotto
The fucking oGCd curse
lusty grotto
pressing SD for giga executes is fun
blazing condor
giga executes + big aoe
wind oak
We do shit dmg
lusty grotto
crit gains arent
wind oak
They had to buff us once again like every tier and the lego
lusty grotto
im raiding as arms
blazing condor
anecdotal evidence sure but
lusty grotto
so 🤷
wind oak
Thats how it is when 99% of player dont push buttons properly
lusty grotto
thats mad copium
tribal wharf
well as for me, obviously i only really play this one character
blazing condor
still doing 300k+ dps in a dungeon isnt that bad
lusty grotto
out of the 3 you would be "fine" with the most boring set
tribal wharf
and even that, im starting to really tired of playing it
wind oak
im raiding as arms
You raid as Arms but want IP back man im so glad people opinion have no weight
lusty grotto
i didnt say that
blazing condor
You raid as Arms but want IP back man im so glad people opinion have no weight
the peoples opinion literally decided the tier sets lol
blazing condor
ok trump
lusty grotto
except s3 gives execute stonks more value
wind oak
People voted on 20+ char
lusty grotto
while the other 2 do jack shit
tribal wharf
ah trump talk that political
wind oak
Our S3 tier set is actually dogshit for execute
tribal wharf
cant have poltics, serious protection warrior chat about geting better at the game ONLY!!
blazing condor
yogi your bitterness is showing
wind oak
And is the reason you spam execute becauee you cant spend any rage
tribal wharf
gotta get the mods in here clean that up
wind oak
Nom bro this fool need some lesson
blazing condor
never change, #protection
wind oak
On how 2 Arms
blazing condor
council of yap in here
tribal wharf
if im gunna be modded for "fuck" shouldnt trump be not allowed too then?
hardy snow
Our S3 tier set is actually dogshit for execute
we are dogshit for execute in current state
tribal wharf
im sorry
lusty grotto
here you go @wind oak
blazing condor
if im gunna be modded for "fuck" shouldnt trump be not allowed too then?
"gunna" refers to a rapper please put that in #off-topic
lusty grotto
wind oak
I know he doesnt
tribal wharf
but nah i was just chilling and mod came in and was all aggro on me
thats why im bothered
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
you sure about the lesson?
blazing condor
but i dont think malding is the best way to handle it
lusty grotto
is ppaww trolling
wind oak
Dude your have unreal problem
wind oak
I fucking know he doesnt like s1 and only play Arms because jugg build
lusty grotto
my what problems
tribal wharf
ya, i've just realized that i suck at protection warrior and wow, and so i just try to exist an do my own thing now, and if something actually went wrong, thats when i ask questions
blazing condor
ya, i've just realized that i suck at protection warrior and wow, and so i just ...
all good in doing your own thing but remember this is a place for pwarrs in wow and not a social hub
tribal wharf
its more now that i'll directly ask for help if im having problem, dont always need the input advice.
wind oak
Ok you are straight up having issue, you dont touch grass often
lusty grotto
lol
wind oak
Every Arms warrior that i know hate s3 rng fiesta
lusty grotto
fantastic
wind oak
Nothing more shit than having your stack drop and 1 seconds later you get your sd proc again
lusty grotto
wind oak
The only good part about s3 is not having to push tclap all the time
lusty grotto
gotcha
wind oak
Still shit tier set that tried to fix the curse they did in 10.0.5
tribal wharf
writing manifestos is more fun
lusty grotto
thats what i said apb
tribal wharf
im going to go create my onw
tribal wharf
about, moderators, ya, thats exactly what im gunna go do
toxic pewter
s1 tier bonuses just boring
wind oak
Its the same gameplay
toxic pewter
it doing the thunderclap is great
wind oak
You just get more SD proc so your dopamine rise good
toxic pewter
na its the thunderclap applying rend also
toxic pewter
and many arms wactually preferred s3 over s1 its a sizable amount
tribal wharf
i am so annoyed by that opinion that i would do that type of thing
lusty grotto
so you dont enjoy dopamine, i see
wind oak
2 triggers for same proc
tribal wharf
thats actual big mad
warm plinth
How badly did s3 lose to s1?
wind oak
Plenty of shit issue because of that
tribal wharf
cant believe would say that
lusty grotto
not by much ghash
toxic pewter
i feel like it was close iirc
tribal wharf
im actual mad about that
uneven mason
Tre has been changed since s1
wind oak
If more Arms enjoy s3 how did it not win too ?