your resource is rage, my resource is cat pics
#protection
grim pilot
plush tendon
north wave
Lmao
lusty grotto
just some guy that doesnt care, but talks in class discord often, even while being outed for cheating
it happens
waxen quarry
gus!!!!!!!!
grim pilot
the chicken man
waxen quarry
quit the game
waxen quarry
quit the game now
north wave
and I dont need any 27's
alt+f4 and uninstall
waxen quarry
go learn stocks and trade with $1000
grim pilot
yes
waxen quarry
one day u will get 1050
north wave
come back next expack and try again
grim pilot
let me sit in lfg for 12 hours
waxen quarry
and now 5x ur networth
grim pilot
hoping someone wants an arms warrior
pliant trout
at some key level it's just spec/skill capped
grim pilot
that doesnt start with crit and ends with cake
waxen quarry
that doesnt start with crit and ends with cake
critical strike cake my favorite warrior streamer!
lusty grotto
everyone loves crit
grim pilot
at some key level it's just spec/skill capped
I dont see the point of that statement but ok
lusty grotto
ftw
grim pilot
critical strike cake my favorite warrior streamer!
holy moses crit cake can survive in 26 ad without a healer!?!?
how does he do that
plush tendon
holy moses crit cake can survive in 26 ad without a healer!?!?
Critcake is bae ❤️
grim pilot
@lament musk
lusty grotto
grim pilot
can you share some insight
on how does one survive atal dazar +26 (key level) without a healer
some of that warrior wisdom
waxen quarry
as a fury (dps) warrior
lusty grotto
not as arms for sure lol
plush tendon
I think spell reflect for wracking pain
and D Stance Ignore pain for Soulrend?
follow it up with a Victory Rush
lusty grotto
yeah plenty of options
plush tendon
I like fury more for Atal
lusty grotto
but self healing with fury just makes it a bit easier
lusty grotto
and versa
grim pilot
in fury gear yeah
lusty grotto
since fury is stacking it after mastery this season
plush tendon
they do get a bit more stam from second 2h and 10% DR from Enrage
grim pilot
I'm an arms otp in general
lusty grotto
and i guess this next season
grim pilot
as in I can play other specs to a certain extent
but I always mostly just play my arms war
can play pwar/fury/dh/ret on some level but it all comes down to arms
lusty grotto
ive been dabbling into fury for smoldy prog
plush tendon
wish it were a little less spammy though
grim pilot
arms on smolderon was pain
I do not recommend that
tindral its fine
but smolderon as arms is painful
lusty grotto
hehe i did prog last night as arms, last week i did it as fury
its fucking hell as melee as it is anyway
plush tendon
Smoldy aint too bad
lusty grotto
its a fun fight
grim pilot
no its real bad as arms
lusty grotto
when things align
grim pilot
you cant take 1 wave
while most specs tank them like crazy
because by the time you get outhealed
you're 60% hp
even with popping IV sitting in d stance etc
lusty grotto
yeah not a lot of room for mistakes
grim pilot
at least from my personal experience
as a reference point
one night I checked deaths vs waves hits taken
plush tendon
at least for first time prog, just having everyone alive will lead to a kill
grim pilot
I had the least waves hits taken BY FAR
and my death % wasnt that great
I wasnt dead the most but it would be much much higher if I were fury
grim pilot
yeah I was arms
whole night I tanked like 6 waves
whereas 2nd lowest was like 12
and every wave I took was a killing blow
lusty grotto
lol yea
grim pilot
whereas druid was taking on average 2,5 waves per pull
fyrakk is also not the easiest boss as arms but I do think that smolderon was much worse
lusty grotto
i died last night to heal absorbs going off in line and then staying in border into 3 waves
like consistently
lusty grotto
it was fucked
waxen quarry
not even kidding
waxen quarry
something HAS to be fucked on that boss
grim pilot
a single wave hit
waxen quarry
dmg wise
lusty grotto
heroic?
grim pilot
tswift kills pugs faster than smoldy
we have
30 man groups
like 25 people are melee
lusty grotto
hahaha
grim pilot
you can fill in the blanks
lusty grotto
i mean in heroic you can just IV it and it pops
waxen quarry
nope
lusty grotto
idk i really havent had problems with that boss
hardy snow
Smolderon or Tindral on hc arent extremely hard bosses. Its just those are first bosses that actually requires something from players, so pugs got destroyed there.
grim pilot
and then health pot next
since you'll only have 2 phases
or if you have next phase
then so many people are dead
that dodging waves is piss easy
lusty grotto
yea
waxen quarry
grim pilot
havent checked
is apl properly optimised
for non raid builds
like without jugg
and tom
grim pilot
the 35-30?
grim pilot
im not playing
waxen quarry
holding fatality
waxen quarry
holding fatality below 30
waxen quarry
depends i need to go to the store ill be back with more details in like 5 mins
lament musk
on how does one survive atal dazar +26 (key level) without a healer
make sure you're not arms
waxen quarry
for how long
until tom pretty much
although u should time it yourself
if u are in cs
u hold
if not just send
analog lantern
omg I was doing troll keys on my balance druid and things got interesting with a pug prot warr we took in Throne +11. He was ambitious but doesn't seem like he was using his buttons xD. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/2069110098 idk maybe this counts as #promotion ? lmk ill delete
waxen quarry
ppaw lost his pi tech
basically pi on arms before fatality is the best pi use
and in exe phase arms is one of the best
@grim pilot its a rabbit hole of tiny optimizations
for fatality
like cancelling sd if u are in cs before fatality
but all of these are meaningless on low kill timers and are most of the time just dps loss
lusty grotto
make sure you're not arms
lusty grotto
omg I was doing troll keys on my balance druid and things got interesting with a...
do you have logs?
analog lantern
do you have logs?
nope
analog lantern
stuff happened throughout it xD I edited the run to the most uhh entertaining/relevant parts
58s
lusty grotto
i cant say if he was using his buttons or not without a log
analog lantern
2:22
lusty grotto
could be anything
analog lantern
3:30
warm plinth
WE ARE NERDS SIR. WE NEED DATA.
lusty grotto
he was getting chunked by bleeds is the only thing that i can see from your ui
analog lantern
:c didn't expected I'd need to log a +11 xD
lusty grotto
because you dont have shield block tracking on your frames, we cant see that either
analog lantern
yeah
warm plinth
I don't even know how you die in an 11 at 430
analog lantern
my healer was tracking demo shout and apparently he didn't use it
lusty grotto
but like i said we dont even know if he was blocking or not
uhh
demo is for damage
big deeps
especially in an 11
only in high keys do we use it for mitigation
or specifically for mitigation
warm plinth
Pretty sure he was just showing this to us for entertainment purposes. Clap is like 3.6k pwar :p
analog lantern
to quote the healer at 1:45 "he's taking an absolute cocking" lmao. And death to boss at 8:00 :c
but speaking about fucking up in tides..I did a +28 yesterday. First pull; there was a caster a bit further away as I was setting it up, went out to interrupt it, and the sentinel used his tank buster on the healer -_-
lusty grotto
ahaha
analog lantern
we killed the pull and it was a mess and we were about 1 min out from timing the key. Frustrating!
analog lantern
fervents?
analog lantern
yeah :/
lusty grotto
if the current agro is far
it chooses something else
it comes from fervent strikes
plush tendon
hes taking a lot of back shots
plush tendon
like, he charged that totem on 3rd boss.... put his back to boss
lusty grotto
yeah i mentioned that
analog lantern
it's a bit weird though because im pretty sure I've kited the sentinels, including when they cast the tank buster, without any problems before
like the pair of sentinels are usually left alive in the upper corridor and I kite them to pull the caster pack of 3
usually leap away
idk
that throne I do have a log of
analog lantern
sure but I think melee were closer at that point
lusty grotto
but i could be wrong, i thought lady ravencrest miniboss was a fervent but its just a frontal
so it could be that
strong forum
on how does one survive atal dazar +26 (key level) without a healer
an article is in the works
analog lantern
strong forum
you overprioritise thunderclap with outburst up
you sent 70 of 128 outbursts on tcx
analog lantern
you sent 70 of 128 outbursts on tcx
cheers will take that into account
analog lantern
im not seeing the healer getting hit
oh you're right! they get thrashed. They told me it was the tankbuster
strong forum
this is your casts breakdown
lusty grotto
ah
analog lantern
that's odd because I feel like I'm sending it whenever it's up but I guess not
lusty grotto
analog lantern
btw as a tank, when do you find is the best time to get reflects up on the final boss of ToTT? There seems to be a window just after the adds spawn that I usually take advantage of.
analog lantern
but often it's like, ok I can go out to use SR but fuck, he's started casting something else
lusty grotto
and you wanna get it off before timmy the caster add decides to lol
analog lantern
yeah lol
lusty grotto
its huge damage though
strong forum
it is
lusty grotto
basically all 3 attacks are no bueno for setting up reflects
analog lantern
I usually pre sr then leap out charge back in, or just run out charge back in
analog lantern
yeah
analog lantern
I think I have little wigs which screams a big siren at me when he's casting it
fickle hare
Anyone here got any tips for running everbloom as a prot? Tried 26 this week and it was pretty brutal to survive
dire anvil
My biggest problem with tanking EB is people not interrupting the adds. I think it’s dreambolt. My advice would be to examine your deathlogs and see what you’re having trouble with
lusty grotto
Anyone here got any tips for running everbloom as a prot? Tried 26 this week and...
you would have to be more specific
anything with high lasher stacks will hurt
warm plinth
but i could be wrong, i thought lady ravencrest miniboss was a fervent but its j...
Nitpicking on this because I'm insufferable. Strike down is actually an aoe targeted on the tank. If you and the tank are both close to the mob, she can hit you even if you're behind her.
lusty grotto
bring a pally to freedom you
lusty grotto
Nitpicking on this because I'm insufferable. Strike down is actually an aoe tar...
nice
warm plinth
ily
wild hemlock
My biggest problem with tanking EB is people not interrupting the adds. I think ...
just use divine toll or a never ending silence sigil
😦
analog lantern
bring a pally to freedom you
- a MW to TL you 😄
strong forum
the way to handle the casters
is to avoid pulling more than 1 naturalist
and if you pull multiple
is to desync them
with your ST stuns
reflect on CD obv
and when you know YOU cant stop any more casts
you send spellblock/SW
until you can send stops again
whats dangerous is not 1 cast going through, whats dangerous is not being ready for it
analog lantern
healer has to do something after all
pallid quiver
my strategy is to play a different game
pliant trout
in my experience in eb one of the biggest problems is turning your back in bigger pulls rest is relative easy
you can get easly one shot if unlucky
warm plinth
Unlucky is a nice way to say bad XD
warm plinth
My bad; I should have looked into the future to see what you would have said next.
jagged pier
Affixies have nothing to do with it dont turn your back period problem solved
analog lantern
I do find it harder to set up the big pulls in EB. Like at the start, I usually get someone to CC the first naturalist, or mind soothe, or shroud. Otherwise it'll just stay in the back casting forever. Then I usually get like, an abom and two flower packs but it is really awkward because you get slowed by the flowers and packs/mobs are inevitably behind you as you set up the first pull
pliant trout
it can throw you in front of the pack so they become behind you
analog lantern
gotta make creative use of leaps and charge
pliant trout
with "right" route it's not hard at all depends on players
pliant trout
analog lantern
and ppl share them and its like bruh I'm literally unable to do this
warm plinth
I feel like one of the biggest things they did wrong when rebirthing these old dungeons is not giving them updated mechanics re: casting
pliant trout
you agro first
warm plinth
Like in any modern dungeon, you can pull a caster mob and it'll just come in without casting until someone hits it
pliant trout
and gather them in the middle
lusty grotto
but thats to be expected
pliant trout
and then blast distrupting
warm plinth
Would be especially helpful in EB for sure
pliant trout
and they all collected
lusty grotto
agreed
pliant trout
except casters from first pack
someone needs to kick them
anyway with good players works very well
and no abominations
analog lantern
yeah that works. The problem is the caster in the back but if it gets close enough u can usually get a clutch DS off and they gather in.
yeah if I have a pull with an abom I skip that first caster and get it later
but if you pull abom it's like +3 berserkers which is especially fucked this week
warm plinth
wtb gag order, pls Blizz
pliant trout
druid monk warr 2x rogue timed 31 with this route
so it's more about players/damage
yesterday
analog lantern
yeah that's actually quite encouraging because you think, fuck, if I can't pull like a veng DH how are we gonna time this key on higher levels
but that is giga manageable
analog lantern
lol
pliant trout
i mean good players
i mean not personally you
but a random prot warr
even with high score
analog lantern
true
pliant trout
it's all about knowing good players who "boost" you even if you are not meta spec
ofc you need to perform it's not about you being bad and boosted
analog lantern
agreed
pliant trout
removing the depletion would help with this OuO but people like it so it will stay
OuO/)
analog lantern
from doing pugs, like random +27s and +28s, I think that people are really spoiled by vDHs, idk, I get the impression from watching CDs and stuff that people are not using as many stops and interrupts as they could, more things go through
maybe that's just me
warm plinth
Gonna be a rude awakening next season when nothing casts at the same time anymore
analog lantern
they expect the vDH to handle everything and they're not prepared with Pwar
fickle hare
sorry for late response was in key
plush tendon
things just cast way too often
fickle hare
I'm dying mainly due to casters
haven't had any luck getting a group to fully shut them down so I'm not sure what I should be running
plush tendon
you used to be able to assign a melee kick per caster in a pack
now its like 2 melee per caster
lusty grotto
I'm dying mainly due to casters
spell block
if you dont have kicks for a pull
spell block
and/or wall, cycle your defensives
warm plinth
Most priority casts are still 1 melee kick
Problem this season is that so many mobs spam cast shit that hits like a truck
fickle hare
ye
warm plinth
I mean a problem in general, not a problem for the tank necessarily.
strong forum
its only in DHT and EB
fickle hare
I'm personally getting owned in everbloom at 25 and above
strong forum
ive personally not had that issue in EB with the casters
you use your stops first
desync the casters
when you first pull you do a triple reflect
then you kick -> stormbolt -> SC
thats 3 casters stopped
1 desynced entirely
then you can shockwave all 3
then you pop shieldwall
after shieldwall you can fear them if needed / SR
then you can kick 1 again
spellblock as needed to cover until you get stormbolt/sc/kick back again
for another round of stops
pack should be dead before that tho
and voila you survived a triple caster pack with 0 issues
strong forum
and same goes for the naturalists before that
during the dreadpetal pulls
never pull more than 1 naturalist
and you focus that one, send your kicks/stops in the same manner
kick -> SC -> stormbolt
spellblock if youz have 2 naturalists
and burn em
strong forum
🙂
warm plinth
All the tanks get together and do defensive rotations for some of the trouble bosses
strong forum
pwar is very strong in everbloom
strong forum
issue is just entirely 2nd boss (like it is for everyone)
plush tendon
literally the hardest part of that dungeon
opal vale
Is there any reason theres so few prot warrior kills on mythic fyrakk? Is it just that DPS warriors are good right now so they don't need the buffs or some issue with prot? Just asking as I might have to step in to tank our prog but if theres a huge reason not too on prot ill decline.
strong forum
its very common for higher ranked tanks to just roll to whatever is fotm
thick cairn
Imagine playing a prot paladin who has to use the light to keep themselves up instead of a prot warr who refuses to die because they are just too angry
jagged pier
Pink soy boy vs chad brown
fickle hare
I mean aren't all tanks viable for raiding pretty much
jagged pier
Yes
strong forum
raid is designed that way yes
but bdk and prot pally can cheese the most
prot pally can play pseudo healer, has sac/wog/bop/spellward/freedom
and bdk can solo tank almsot everything
plush tendon
our raid would rather have no battleshout and a prot pal then a prot war; even when we have like 4 paladins in our comp
for our reclears
makes me so madge
I blame the healers being like 'but we need Spell BoP!'
@limpid ruin explain to me why I havnt seen Seraji!
strong forum
our raid would rather have no battleshout and a prot pal then a prot war; even w...
thats pretty fucking stupid
compact palm
plush tendon
blazing condor
I paid for the whole game time im gonna use the whole game time
limpid ruin
True, you gotta get your money’s worth these days
warm plinth
Man .1% is a heartbreaking wipe
warm plinth
Would that have been your first kill?
plush tendon
no, reclear
warm plinth
well that's good at least I suppose lol
limpid ruin
now these were heartbreaking
That just meant you got to spend more time with all your friends 
waxen frigate
battleshout diff right there
Despair
plush tendon
That just meant you got to spend more time with all your friends <a:huggies:8008...
Im going non verbal
waxen frigate
Im going non verbal
😡
barren vale
.7 my guy /hug
cerulean tusk
Should've executed harder
waxen frigate
RuneScape moment
lusty tiger
Real af
warm plinth
Yogi?
lusty tiger
I wish
lusty tiger
lusty tiger
Yes she can catch it
lusty tiger
I remembered my dad telling me of his dog back in his younger days that could catch frisbees so I taught her as a puppy
lusty tiger
A stoic doge indeed
Probably smelling for her next chicken wing bone in another yard
jagged pier
lusty tiger
lusty grotto
lusty tiger
lusty grotto
aww
lusty tiger
She goes to the back of the couch so you can sit on the front and crush her
pallid quiver
Pet the dog
lusty tiger
Yeah pretty much
jagged pier
So cute 
toxic pewter
That’s me
lusty grotto
gz!!!!
lusty tiger
Gz!
strong forum
yes
lusty grotto
we all agree
waxen quarry
when tiny fury can 2h + 2h
lusty grotto
yes yes
urban portal
Shield slam in arms rotation 
lusty grotto
honestly would make sense to put it as a colossus passive
that prot uses 2h
thunder god and 2 hander prot chad
median tulip
they should let arms 2h + shield
Fuck no. Titan's Grip was a mistake, let's not double down on that bullshit
warm plinth
Single minded fury was the mistake
waxen quarry
smf was the biggest mistake
warm plinth
And they keep clinging to it
sacred urchin
Fuck no. Titan's Grip was a mistake, let's not double down on that bullshit
But 2h + shield is actually practical, espically spears
lusty grotto
uneven mason
Best design of a d&d character I ever had was a spiked battle Rager than dual wielded shields
lusty grotto
dual wield shield is always badass
uneven mason
Literally jump on someone and roll around
His tag line was "can I put spikes on it?"
Hah found the feat
Benefit
The Blood-Spiked Charger feat grants you access to three special tactical maneuvers. Spiked Avalanche: When you are using the charge action while wearing spiked armor and carrying either a spiked shield or nothing in your hands, you throw yourself into the air, transforming yourself into a deadly, spiked projectile. A successful attack with either your spiked shield or your spiked armor deals extra damage equal to twice your Strength bonus. You can attack with both your spiked armor and a spiked shield on this charge, each one benefiting from the Strength bonus, but you take the normal penalties for using two weapons.
warm plinth
Benefit
The Blood-Spiked Charger feat grants you access to three special tactica...
Sounds like knight kirk from dark souls haha
uneven mason
Was modeled after Pwent
Reading the description of his character in the Drizzt books, dwarf that would just cannonball into a horde and thrash around
Formed my early ideas for what a warrior looks like
Most people go for Conan or Arthur...nah go with the smelly dude with the beard and zero fucks
pure fog
Fuck no. Titan's Grip was a mistake, let's not double down on that bullshit
Literally the coolest part of fury
mistake
tribal wharf
For the god emporer!
i finally got around to getting this game and playing it, after seeing so many review it and play it and pester me to play it.
tribal wharf
"i dont have my loaded dice hidden in the toilet that i would use so i can always go first in a tournament because my army has a weakness if it does not move first"
sorry im very new to 40k lord my emperor
tribal wharf
only been playing 3 hours now and im almost to first real boss of the game
piss fuckin easy so far, should have played on nightmare unless its 1 live, not infinite live
fucks you over some how
lusty grotto
ive honestly never played it, i just dabble in warhammer lore
tribal wharf
i already seen how the first boss works and that he is a total BITCH
deals fuck loads of dmg
kills you alot
traps you with adds
lusty grotto
sounds reasonable
tribal wharf
sets you on purple fire and fires a purple bolt that deals MINIMUM 45 dmg and or bypasses armor
out of like ~ 200 to 250 hp
tribal wharf
well you see about that
hes a fucking raid boss
its like, a foot man and an ogre magi squares up in wc2 both solo full hp mana,
or a low lvl hero unit
its basically that much of an uphill battle
wary oak
Hey yall I really want to get into warrior tanking to help out my friends whenever their a tank short was wondering if there were any tips or thinks I could look at to get the ball rolling???
signal plover
does anyone know off hand what WA/addon Sense uses for his external CD/raid CD list. I'm using ERT atm but I'd like to play around with the one he has (it's to the right of his character in his UI).
warm plinth
Hey yall I really want to get into warrior tanking to help out my friends whenev...
Read either the wowhead or icy-veins guide and pay extra attention to the rotation part and ask questions here if you're unsure
wary oak
Read either the wowhead or icy-veins guide and pay extra attention to the rotati...
Tysm ❤️ I will definitely look into those
jagged gust
i now have 15% avoidance as prot
Are you getting lucky with vault or just reclear is treating you well?
strong forum
Vault gave me 489 larodar ring with avoidance, tier gloves with avoidance and today I got gholak with avoidance from mythic fyrakk
Sadly my mirror has the 489 shoulders with leech and not my main
jagged gust
Vault gave me 489 larodar ring with avoidance, tier gloves with avoidance and to...
holy shit grats on that axe, that's nuts
tribal wharf
pictured, my missing condemn spell
thats the boss btw, i gave the foot man world buffs, blood lust
median tulip
Hey yall I really want to get into warrior tanking to help out my friends whenev...
- Keep Shield Block up at all time
- You can only Block, Dodge and Parry attacks in your frontal 180 degree arc
- Generate More Rage
- Spend More Rage
- Never ever overcap Rage
- No, it does not matter that Ignore Pain is already capped, spend Rage on it anyway
- Your most important talents are Anger Management, Violent Outburst and Indomitable. Read them and you will understand why it is important to spend all the Rage
plush tendon
ideal comp
ionic fern
Hi Luigi.
pallid quiver
Pet Luigi.
craggy oar
hello , do someone know if blizz nerfed the Prostetic Stonescale? it seems to just dont proc.
the purgatory of my DK Blood friend proc, he heals up and when he died again the prostetic didnt work
same happen to me with my dh after first cheat death pop off, prostetic did not save me after
ionic fern
I think it should be the other way around.
First the trinket procs, then Purgatory procs.
craggy oar
i dont exactly remember the order rn but the point its that the trinket never proc
it happens to us 2 times in two diferent characters
weyrd af
ionic fern
I also very vaguely remember there being a cap at which point the cheat death doesn't work.
E.g if you take absurds amount of damage, it doesn't proc.
You just straight out die.
grim pilot
I did not know about that
I remember bdk crying about how purgatory might not proc in s2 so he farmed cheat death from doti
craggy oar
indie company
but maybe Mwahi its right, i gess that the melee i take overpass my trinket
ionic fern
Poked around as i only vaguely remembered, and it seems i was correct.
If you end up at -100% of your HP after the "big hit", it doesn't proc and you just die.
So you probably took a very-very big hit.
craggy oar
i was trying to do the second boss of waycrest without cleaning
we did it, but with me in the floor
was a big hit
grim pilot
War is super good there
mystic radish
Short question.
I feel like I might need more crit chance.This are my distributions with Haste Weapon rune. I could change 6 sockets from Haste+Vers to Haste+Crit.
Since im doing primarily raid content, should I consider stacking more vers?
grim pilot
Like giga good
ionic fern
Oh, was about to say that as a warrior there's almost no way you're going to die there.
😂
grim pilot
Battle stance, no defs - not taking more than 15% of my hp on high-ish tyra wm
ionic fern
Short question.
I feel like I might need more crit chance.This are my distributi...
I would run haste/crit gems.
Or, sim myself and use w/e comes up on-top.
craggy oar
i cant get the mood for prot warrior this season... my mistake was start playing vengance dh
mystic radish
Okay. Wasnt sure about simming and dropping vers and then get 1 tapped by the next tank buster ^^
ionic fern
Okay. Wasnt sure about simming and dropping vers and then get 1 tapped by the ne...
That will 100% not happen unless you forget to press buttons.
Vers isn't saving you.
I'm rocking a whooping 3% vers.
mystic radish
The feeling that I lack a lot of rage regen this raid tier is the result of poor rage management right?
ionic fern
Yes.
More than likely a combination of:
1)Not using your rage generators on CD (Mainly SS/TC);
2)Spamming too much Revenge/Execute/IP
mystic radish
Okay.
I dont know why it feels hard to keep IP up . Like Im pressing IP and after 2 secs its completely gone again.
craggy oar
u should be good with Shield Slam and thunder clap outside execute phase
ionic fern
Okay.
I dont know why it feels hard to keep IP up . Like Im pressing IP and afte...
That's not something you should be focusing on.
The only time you should actively track your IP absorb is when you are preparing for a big un-blockable hit. Then you pool your rage and use it 2 times before the hit.
Rest of the time you treat IP as a "rage dump" and tier-set proccer.
craggy oar
opal forum
why everyone likes to play with thunderfury so much
grim pilot
Okay.
I dont know why it feels hard to keep IP up . Like Im pressing IP and afte...
I am 99% sure its because of shield block not being up
mystic radish
I am 99% sure its because of shield block not being up
Nope not 😄 and and because im getting hit in the back. That what got me wondering ^^
mystic radish
That's not something you should be focusing on.
The only time you should activel...
this might be the biggest problem
Trying to get IP Uptime from 100% with at least 100k+ absorb all the time
ionic fern
If you play the class properly you will have enough IP to go around.
Keeping SB up is your main goal for mitigation.
ionic fern
1)SS
2)TC
is your priority for abilities.
If either of them is up, you don't revenge/Execute.
mystic radish
What key level are you doing
Smolderon Mythic atm
grim pilot
I dont like tanking in raid so I cant speak for the damage intake there but you can send over a log and im sure someone can help you
pallid quiver
Smolderon Mythic atm
The biggest thing about Smold, any difficulty for tanks really, is managing CDs for the soak and the followup searing aftermath. You can build up your IP in the timeframe before both hits, and you need to make sure you have CDs actually up, or else you really eat shit, especially on Mythic. Logs would be the most helpful, obviously, but Smold Mythic mostly comes down to that as tanks; pretty much all meaningful changes to the fight on Mythic aren't tank problems
You also need to make sure the right tank has the boss for the soak; before the soak starts, one the first slam, one tank is gonna get the little tornadoes and all. The other tank should take the boss then if he doesn't have it so there's not a massive cluster of mechs going on
jagged pier
U dont need anything for the soak
Just the exposion and thats can be spell blocked each time
And if u get second then first u just sw one and spell block the other
And both will be back for next soak
mystic radish
The only problem is really that ip falls off soooooo fast on smolderon.
On Thursday im gonna try not stacking ip 24/7 and keep it up for the busters instead. Gonna send the log afterwards.
Had IP on the same key as TC (with shift modifier). So since ip is off gcd I found that my slow ass brain presses IP and TC sometimes when I just wanted to TC. I switch the keybind now.
because https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2hfyBxDqPpGYzLcZ#fight=30&source=122
This for sure will have over 90000 IP casts with IP Overcapping and so on.
Thanks for pointing this stuff out 🙂
131 IP casts with 90% uptime tho... there is the problem with my rage management
pallid quiver
U dont need anything for the soak
doesn't the duration of shield wall, even, last to the explosion, too?
i may be mis remembering how long it is, but
mystic radish
doesn't the duration of shield wall, even, last to the explosion, too?
yep
pallid quiver
But like Jakey mentioned, the explosion is the bigger problem
mystic radish
Yes and I get no heals at that time
pallid quiver
the soak doesn't really hurt that much, since it is partially blockable iirc
and fully blockable with spell block
mystic radish
so If I leave the hit with 50% I can just Victory and hope the explo doesnt kill me
pallid quiver
I'd have to double check if it is half physical/half magic like I'm thinking
mystic radish
or use any health pots/stones
safe heron
def stance + spell reflect + shield wall are available for every explosion
what is the problem?
mystic radish
No problem tho
pallid quiver
Spell Reflect should also be available, as well
safe heron
if you dont think thats enough bring the fyrakk's trinket
mystic radish
yep using all and last stand every other
safe heron
trinket from fyrakk makes smolderon easy af
mystic radish
Its just about the feeling that my rage is low. But the problem is/was that
- IP is on the same key as TC so sometimes I press it accidently.
and - I was trying a 100% uptime on IP where I should just pump IP before big hits instead.
"Get the fyrakk trinket" xD
rolling on it since week 1 xD
jagged pier
doesn't the duration of shield wall, even, last to the explosion, too?
again u need nothing for the soak
mystic radish
its like the leggo - its not lootable for my charakter
pallid quiver
so, uh
it looks like you're not blocking the searing aftermath even with spell block up
jagged pier
as the damage is split between all ppl in it
pointless to cd the soak
the absorb shield is why it hurts
pallid quiver
My reasoning would be to get shield wall and spell block on CD faster just so there's less jankery going on, but it's not really that much of a fuss; you can take the soak to the face
mystic radish
but if the duration of block will be up for the explo why not grabbing the soak in the uptime as well :p
safe heron
rolling on it since week 1 xD
dk bro got the 89 from the first kill
mystic radish
but yeah Now that I wont spam IP that hard I check to have shield block up for th explosion so spell block will do its stuff
mystic radish
dk bro got the 89 from the first kill
Might be skill issue for me as well ^^
safe heron
Might be skill issue for me as well ^^
😂
pallid quiver
But also, Jakey, you still need to face Smold during the aftermath to block it with spell block up, yeah? I think that's his issue here, since he only blocked 1 out 4 searing aftermaths with spell block up
jagged pier
mystic radish
^ this xD
pallid quiver
had a feeling that was the case
mystic radish
But also, Jakey, you still need to face Smold during the aftermath to block it w...
would be interessting to know
pallid quiver
I wasn't positive how it'd worked specifically, but, uh
might want to actually face the boss to actually use your spell block to block
because you're effectively taking searing with no or low CDs as a result
The only benefit you're getting from it is taking like, 50k less damage from the soak
which, like jakey keeps mentioning, is an utterly trivial amount of damage not worth fussing over
mystic radish
thanks for explaining all of this! 🙂 this will for sure help me getting better and understand cd usage even better
pallid quiver
Also, remember that you can use spell reflect for the searing aftermath, as well. You're currently using it on the intermissions loosely, it seems, but
- It should be back up by the time intermission's in swing if you're first, anyhow
- You're taking like, no damage from the intermission damage overtime, to the point that your leech is pretty much keeping you entirely topped off
mystic radish
Was because of the tips I got from another prot warrior from this discord some time ago. If theres not reflect just use it on cd.
But yeah there is a better purpose for it when mitigating the magic dmg on the hard hitting explo
pallid quiver
Better to get some use than no use, yes, but there's a very big telegraphed "Damage Here" sign in this fight
pallid quiver
^^^
jagged pier
in raiding the big problem things are always magic
so u save spell reflect for them proetty much
unless it can be reflected
pallid quiver
The soak and searing aftermath are generally about 6-ish seconds apart, as well, so you can't cover both with spell reflect, nor is there any need to. Put your focus on living the searing, save your CDs to before it. you can send spell block early since it lasts a whole ass 30 seconds, but it needs to catch searing, so I'd just save it for like a second before the soak hits so you can cover yourself during the absorb shield and the explosion
jagged pier
well u should basiclaly break the absorb shield yourself or most of it with iv
LS and do 2 shields over the fight
the big HP pot can cover 1
hs and help with another
pallid quiver
Yeah, Jakey's got the right of it, there
mystic radish
So since theres no other dangerous mechanic except the explosion I am fine using my health pot to break the absorb myself?
pallid quiver
Yeah, you shouldn't be taking any meaningful damage from anything else, and you can think of healing absorbs as "taking" that much damage
So if you get a full use of the healing from the health pot...
It's the same as if you put that amount of HP back into your bar
mystic radish
so first with Last stand 2nd with Health pot so its up again for the later absorb again
pallid quiver
The only thing off the top of my head that you would take dangerous, non-passively fixable damage from is just standing in shit
mystic radish
eating some storms like mentos
pallid quiver
IV should be available for every absorb shield
So during times you LS, if you need to LS and IV, do them in that order since LS will buff the IV healing
mystic radish
IV should be available for every absorb shield
yep but thats not enough :/
mystic radish
So during times you LS, if you need to LS and IV, do them in that order since LS...
yepo. but even when failing (why ever) the healing from IV and the Last Stand 30% will be more than enough to break the absorb
pallid quiver
You use it in conjuction with the other parts
I just mentioned it so you remember to plop it in every absorb shield in addition to LS/health pot and stone/etc
hardy snow
yep but thats not enough :/
dont forget that you dont have to run asap to other end of platform, you can just walk away, so healers can still pump you for a moment, or you can stay under boss so they can heal you and then just leap
also imo spellblock isnt great for this mechanic, its not always available and it may not work if you dont keep up shield block after running away from boss, shield wall, spell reflect, def stance and if needed some external are enough and should be available for every hit
blazing condor
time to collect the balls and ressurect him
warm plinth
Dayum
lusty grotto
to be fair
warm plinth
how tf are you that high; you don't raid do you?
warm plinth
mythic?
lusty grotto
yeah
warm plinth
oh
warm plinth
what a gamer
warm plinth
And you don't invite me I see how it is
lusty grotto
i could
if youre interested they do friday/sat for mythic at 7pm est
and then heroic on sundays at the same time
if youre around let me know and ill get you in
plush tendon
the game may have cursed me with lego and waited till Mythic Fyrakk was dead before natty dropping on the boss
but we got the mount
lusty grotto
grats!
plush tendon
usually not a fan of Owl mounts.... but its kind of neat
limpid ruin
We both know getting the Lego on the mythic kill was the way.
plush tendon
Doesnt matter anymore anyways; we know who we rocking for next week Fyrakk
Dynamic duo
lusty grotto
poggers
limpid ruin
Doesnt matter anymore anyways; we know who we rocking for next week Fyrakk
Sorry the fight is clearly impossible without bdk or pali. That one spell ward I do is obviously the linchpin of the entire fight.
Disc globals are my true master
lusty grotto
plush tendon
Sorry the fight is clearly impossible without bdk or pali. That one spell ward I...
Ben said I could play VDH next week
warm plinth
Only 97 parse
plush tendon
cause Raindrop did so well
plush tendon
Only 97 parse <:sadge:820202363359854633>
im not the warrior, Stoat king is
warm plinth
jkjk
warm plinth
Stoat can you please parse better, ty
jagged pier
Stoat can you please parse better, ty
not even putting a price on log reviews smh
warm plinth
if youre interested they do friday/sat for mythic at 7pm est
I know 0 of the raid mechanics even on heroic so that's probably not a great idea LOL.
jagged pier
I know 0 of the raid mechanics even on heroic so that's probably not a great ide...
press button
u are tank
mechanic done
warm plinth
not even putting a price on log reviews smh
I actually changed it as a meme because of the joker that was in here trying to sell coaching to people at 100k/hour and was completely wrong
jagged pier
but legit u can go into normal to learn the tank mechanics
theyare the same as on mythic
jagged pier
I actually changed it as a meme because of the joker that was in here trying to ...
i missed a scam caller?
warm plinth
I would have linked the convo to you but it's just me talking to myself now because he was banned and all his messages deleted
jagged pier
looked fun wish i was there
lusty tiger
@waxen frigate https://twitter.com/sovereignbrah/status/1765907520697352613?s=46&t=pKJqAaes9gysilv22ZNTqA
Twitter
lusty tiger
lol
lusty grotto
where canned fish
lusty tiger
Yeah @waxen frigate it’s canned fish Friday
jagged pier
acceptable
waxen frigate
Ok I have some trout at home
And some other sardines from France
What are we thinking boys
Also anchovies (not sure what country of origin)
barren vale
Got Mythic Vol down in 15 prog pulls last night! Council is just silly
lusty tiger
Council sucks
lusty tiger
Ok I have some trout at home
Canned trout?
waxen frigate
Yea
barren vale
gotta be smoked right?
waxen frigate
I have the two middle cans and the top right (when you look at the proper orientation) sardines
lusty grotto
lol
lusty tiger
Juniper and lemon thyme
I don’t really like thyme but I’m sure it is ok with canned fish
barren vale
yea im kinda down NGL
lusty tiger
Yeah sounds good
barren vale
“Au Beurre” is a French expression that means “with butter.”
lusty tiger
Yeah a butter fish sauce
waxen frigate
serene gorge
why did i open the first three top io prot and they all specd to prot and got leggo on
jagged pier
memes
serene gorge
can u actualy do it
serene gorge
i was about to tank using the leggo
jagged pier
yer dont do that
waxen frigate
why did i open the first three top io prot and they all specd to prot and got le...
You can see similar stuff in m+ logs with the top tank Dps in several keys at varying levels being a Ret Paladin listed as prot
lusty grotto
too hard to open the actual keys they do
i wonder how far rank 1 io players can get by logging off on a troll spec and making aggregate sites just pick up on those
but i imagine archon and shit are smart enough not to look at just base profile
serene gorge
yeah i had to open his warcraftlogs
lusty grotto
or just
serene gorge
i guess u teens use lorgs or some shit
lusty grotto
jesus i wish i was a teen
violet ginkgo
nim is boomer?
lusty grotto
im past a boomer
im one of the ancient 3
sense, me and yogi
👴
well and ikari
ancient 4
lusty grotto
good shit
lusty tiger
That’s so cap
waxen frigate
I actually don’t remember but I think I was ancient
This is the only evidence I have anymore
lusty tiger
Do you speak Russian?
waxen frigate
Very little
lusty tiger
Also when’s turbo
waxen frigate
I took it in college
lusty grotto
you pick it up on dota or league
cyka blat and shit
i'd imagine EU players deal with it a lot more
waxen frigate
Also when’s turbo
Crossword Head needs you
lusty grotto
lusty tiger
tribal wharf
ya'll ready for some MDI fails boys?
final salmon
Oh MDI starting?
lusty tiger
hazy bronze
lusty tiger
Awww
lusty grotto
doggossss
primal pelican
new to prot and I feel like I'm struggling to control big groups of casters, is there any real way to grab Disrupting shout at all?
strong forum
rule number 1
dont pull big groups of casters
you dont do VDH pulls without a VDH
primal pelican
entirely having to rewire my vdh brain
strong forum
in everbloom, only pull 1 naturalist at a time, play around that fact, flowers you can HARD ignore they dont do anything to us
primal pelican
thats good
strong forum
around witherbark area with triple caster packs you can simply do this: (lemme find the screenshot)
you goal is just to keep the casters desynced and play around your own CDs after your stops ran out
primal pelican
gotcha, same sorta principle in the EB house before council?
primal pelican
gotcha
so just go around and do the other berserker/abom packs?
is abom's tank buster physical?
strong forum
its reflectable