well cuz it aint that good on dh lol
#protection
strong forum
strong forum
ive never seen a havoc run it
strong forum
ashes + ember/branch
grim pilot
pips>ember
in general
but I mean
483 pips vs 483 ember
who cares
I'll try to farm mythic pips
grim pilot
once I find mythic 4/9 reclear group
tribal wharf
this is what the dps dh in my group i just ran with has
they seem a bit troll im not sure
My healer stuck in tornadoe first boss of throne
im not ru nning throne rn mind you
compact sleet
#showtooltip
/cast [@mouseover,exists,harm] Charge;[@mouseover,exists,help] Intervene; [@target]Charge
#showtooltip
/cast Charge
/cast Victory Rush
/cast Impending victory
is there a way to put these together?
I currently have the bottom one, but was advised of the top, and i dont want to make another bind
for impending victory
strong forum
You can't macro 2 gcd buttons onto the same macro
Ah nvm I'm dumb
Charge doesn't incur gcd
You can just add /cast impending victory below the macro at the top
tribal wharf
these spells dont
that bar is just a reminder of all the spells that i have that are off GCD, i would like to have it take up an entire bar on main action bars
but ya, not today
compact sleet
so many binds. i just picked up prot warrior yesterday, so still learning
tribal wharf
any of the buttons without a bind i dont actively press besides "needs to be refreshed because i /others died"
tribal wharf
top tiny one which is the image above, i never press any of those at all, that may even be click through
strong forum
I look at streamers they have like 10 buttons
🙂
tribal wharf
also no, i never use the grenades lol
i thought i might want to on ghosts this week and then i just remembered i have thunderclap which is the same thing, and other players have ~= more or less eual
its a 75% slow for 8 seconds, but its 5 minute potion cd
tribal wharf
Y for yelling ability
covert flower
WAIT DUDE
Sorry for brightness btw hdr screen snips always look so over-exposed
since monitor adjusts IRL
strong forum
Y is for stormbolt
strong forum
T is battleshout
covert flower
T is my single target cc ability
strong forum
You got it all wrong smh
tribal wharf
t is for taunt
tribal wharf
the most important tank spell of all
grim pilot
shift t for stomrbolt
strong forum
Q is taunt
grim pilot
E is taunt
strong forum
E is TR
strong forum
Ctrl 3 is legendary
grim pilot
cntrl R
universally tho for all dps specs shift R for big defensive, shift E for health pot, shift 5 for healthstone, cntrl V for racial ability
grim pilot
shift Y
lusty grotto
Ctrl 3 is legendary
ctrl 4 for mine 😄
grim pilot
chatting
grim pilot
strong forum
No shift 1 is heroic leap
Shift 2 is Ravager
Shift 3 is execute
Shift 4 is shield block
Press F to Ignore Pain
🫡
covert flower
ignore pain/shield block are in my rotation sir they go on 4 and 5
lusty grotto
grim pilot
m5
covert flower
are you a psychopath?
lusty grotto
its the mouse forward button
grim pilot
ah
strong forum
Yeah
grim pilot
god
lusty grotto
m4 is mouse back
strong forum
Why
lusty grotto
1 has alwasy been my intervene keybind so when DF hit i just replaced
grim pilot
well shift + mwheelup
lusty grotto
TC + SS + Rev have cancelauras
strong forum
Shift M4 is aoe taunt
lusty grotto
i do cause it helps a lot
strong forum
That's inting
grim pilot
and it was day and night
na cba
I'm not dealing with bleed
as pwar
also healer was premade with me so I knew he's good
strong forum
GL
grim pilot
lusty grotto
hmm i have to remove that use 13
grim pilot
me neither
strong forum
I have only 1 completed key
grim pilot
I just found some people 2 days ago
strong forum
And it's a +20 weekly
compact sleet
T is for storm bolt
shift 4 is for stormbolt?
grim pilot
are good
and similar rio
literally found them while they were on their alts and I was upping my ad 26
(it ended up being rise 24)
so we have 3 keys
covert flower
if you intend to commit arson in the near future it does, sure
compact sleet
lol i love talking about binds. literally like snowflakes
strong forum
Keybinds are Everybodies on demons
It's still just fun to compare and talk about em
compact sleet
i use shift 4 for hoj on pally, so its the same place
i just started a competition for s4 in my guild where we rolled random characters,. and highest 3 io's get prizes.
its been interesting seeing people freak out over the class they got lol
lusty grotto
thats a nice idea
covert flower
are u guys allowed to gain score together or do you need to pug it all
god bless the warrior getters if it's all solo
gl men
compact sleet
yeah, keeps people engaged, and learning classes they otherwise wouldnt play (all mains and 3k+ io toons from s3 were banned for the individual)
so yes and no
we can run with other toons in the competition if theyre guildies
otherwise we have to pug
no mains allowed to assist, starting next season
covert flower
hopefully they drop the shit affixes incorp and afflicted so warriors can get in more keys
strong forum
Haven't gained score this week so far
compact sleet
lol yeah, kinda nuts we have no way to deal with that
strong forum
It's just impossible to get into everbloom and dhts for some reason
compact sleet
one of the first things i noticed going into a key this afternoon
lusty grotto
dont think they should drop them, they should just make every class be able to do it without getting fucked in the ass talent chocies
covert flower
dude
lusty grotto
they are still better than anything we've had before
covert flower
hard ccing incorps should make them disappear
if we're using bolt on them that's enough
compact sleet
agreeeeeed
covert flower
afflicted just needs to be changed like
covert flower
that's too much like incorp then though
lusty grotto
afflicted is a problem though, especially with dispel bosses/trash
lusty grotto
just rework it completely
compact sleet
fort/tyran, and 1 seasonal
lusty grotto
maybe i do agree that at least that one should be removed
compact sleet
they add arbitrary mechanics that no one likes, just to make it more difficult. jsut make the dungeon harder
covert flower
afflicted is clearly more problematic because every single class has hard cc
only like half can deal with afflicted
lusty grotto
yeah
compact sleet
yeah its definitely rough
lmao. watched all that in real time
it just sucks, because a single affix can make a whole week dead.
covert flower
How about if Afflicted put like a heal absorb on the group or something, for 20% of your max health
IDK
30% maybe
compact sleet
that doesnt sound that bad honestly
covert flower
something warriors could just IV off
every class has some kind of self heal pretty sure
compact sleet
mage is one i can think of that doesnt
unless you wanna count the talent for ice block
covert flower
yeah but mages can do everything in the game
compact sleet
yes
covert flower
they're allowed to miss out on 1
covert flower
dude people bring mages specifically for goliath like
they're the only class in game that is getting invited for 1 specific boss
pretty sure at least
must be nice
if you're a mage pugging high WM you are auto in
compact sleet
yeah, none of the mages I know have any issues getting into waycrest lmao
covert flower
also the debuff could still be healed
if 30% is too low it could be changed, I'm just thinking if it came at a really bad time
like cinders in EB or yalnu stomp or some shit
compact sleet
still a better affix than what is now imo
covert flower
like if you run tides on afflicted week
your healer can not be wasting dispels on afflicted 3rd boss
lusty grotto
heal absorb on the group is a bad idea, might give ptsd due to overflowing
covert flower
yeah but overflowing never could have been that bad right? since it obviously couldn't keep stacking
like how would you ever clear it then
it was just 1 heal IIRC
lusty grotto
its just weird how blizzard removed all healer specific affixes and then doubled down on dungeon damage and put yet another healer affix in the game
covert flower
okay fine not heal absorb but
like
a heal total that needs to be healed
it doesn't absorb, it just needs to be cleared within a certain amount of time
cerulean tusk
What if they just make it become damage done reduced by 33% per stack or something. DPS will still do em, Healers in PuGs can chill and dont get yelled at for ppl dying. DPS will flame eachother for not CCing.
Will be great
lusty grotto
hmm nah we're talking about afflicted
covert flower
Incorp fix is easy we already discussed
make any hard cc (ST ofc) make them disappear
Every class will be able to do something about them then
Like there should be 1 healer affix in the game
and it should feel made for the healer
not the rest of the comp to do for the healer
I think that's how Blizzard designed it
man this will be cool, the healer can heal them and dispel them and others can help if they want
in reality, no
our mage and boomkin will get these and the healer will do fuck all and ignore them
cobalt juniper
Hello guys a quick question here should I stop getting haste when at 43% (-10%) penalty and if yes should i focus on crit or sth else (i play only dungeons and do not tank raids)
cobalt juniper
than i am good i am at 5607 😄
covert flower
I prefer crit to vers and most people here do I think
blazing condor
crit gang
covert flower
I think in reality they're close and there's some situations one is better than the other but the fact of the matter is
cobalt juniper
we have to see those big numbers
covert flower
the majority of damage you take is melee
blazing condor
Hello guys a quick question here should I stop getting haste when at 43% (-10%) ...
also yeah generally 7100 unbuffed is where u wanna switch off but you can always sim to see
covert flower
crit is just going to give far more DR
covert flower
Ooh
cobalt juniper
witch sim are you guys using patchwork ?
warm plinth
witch sim are you guys using patchwork ?
Patch 1t 3 min w/ lust and patch 5t 1.5 min no lust
Can use 5 min if you're simming raid but you rarely have a 5 min boss fight in keys
pallid quiver
"rarely"
you underestimate the power of random pugs to die and leave the tank to solo smh
Though that hasn't happened since the last time I ran AD, which was months ago
grim pilot
It's just impossible to get into everbloom and dhts for some reason
ye
lol
thats so true
warm plinth
IDK why I didn't start running crit flask sooner
Because it does a ton of damage to you probably? :think:
covert flower
Does it though?
I feel like the uptime is so good
whenever it does end up going off you're like leech/indomitable healing it anyways
covert flower
Yeah that's the only downside for me
Uptime is like 90%+ for me mostly, I could be having it higher too I'm just shit
covert flower
Like before I started using it I was always mentally calculating that the uptime would be dogshit
But it's actually just good
warm plinth
There are two DoTs that deal damage to you. I think one is called like Withering Plague and the other is Rotting from Within
grim pilot
some scytherr guy
warm plinth
And Rotting from Within can break invis pot because it happens entirely at random
pliant trout
And Rotting from Within can break invis pot because it happens entirely at rando...
yea thats total dogshit, happened to me
so in dungeons where you have invis skips it's risky to run
lusty tiger
Coach nome
waxen quarry
I coached him in SL for pwar he got like top 5 in 2 weeks xd
out of 10 prot warriors in sl 
warm plinth
@lusty grotto I guess 1 out of 2 ain't bad
lusty grotto
NICE
violet ginkgo
<@131897531251556352> I guess 1 out of 2 ain't bad
nuh you should've get both, roll better, just roll that 100
maiden ravine
it still feels weird how good the branch trinket is compared to others
night sparrow
So according to the pin, if i have over 5400 haste, i switch to Into the Fray instead of Heavy Repercussions?
analog lantern
imagine actually seeing a prot warrior
imagine inviting a prot warrior to a key 😢
analog lantern
sweet how's it going
grim pilot
well
the prot war alone fine
the 25-27 range with pugs
not so fine
at least we're 3 premade
but every dungeon has that 1 boss that pugs can't do mechanics on
aka yazma
analog lantern
yeah I think I'm actually getting brain damage from the number of +28s I've depleted this week
I depleted a 28 AD to 25 earlier because of Yazma
pugs
analog lantern
oh jesus
grim pilot
rerolled it to fall
got it to 27 ad I think
back to 25
not even 2chested
into fall 26
not even 2chested into rise 27
and idk if I'll try to tank rise 27 or go dps war for that one
analog lantern
I feel better now for my disaster of a week
literally 0 score and a million keys for potential score
grim pilot
my tyra eb 24 into 27
I helped my 2 new premades time a tot 28 and actually improved my prev timer
and timed a scuffed wm 29
analog lantern
jealous...both keys I had and played like all the way through and ran out of time at the end even though they were pretty clean, was pulling big
grim pilot
I am 100% sure me and ret have damage for big boy keys
analog lantern
that's been the frustrating thing for me this week, feel like I'm pushing performance but idk
grim pilot
we just need clean runs
we tried tot 29
well we tried it twice but first time it ended on first boss
analog lantern
not translating into timed keys
grim pilot
2nd time it ended right before 3rd boss (well mage just left because timer was gg) so we didnt get to experience it on 29
but if it wasnt for giga scuffed run
we definitely had the damage for it
grim pilot
I would time eb 28
but get this
we're all good
7 mins for last boss
and ret gets meleed by the boss
- we dont have cr
analog lantern
before the boss becomes active im like spamming shield charge
grim pilot
28 eb on forti is a temporary key
my goal is to get it on 29
on forti
yeah I mean I always go way out of range
I'd rather lose 2 seconds of uptime than deplete the key
analog lantern
right? :p
I have a rise +28 which im gonna do tomorrow
idk though, im not confident, sending it with pugs
not much choice though
got a route sorted but yeah
grim pilot
I had a couple of deaths in my 28
and still had 2 mins left
2 weeks ago
its not that bad of a key tbh
it's trash and unfun to play but nothing boogeyman like eb
analog lantern
I don't know dude the comps I have been making...they just don't have the damage, (usually have a ret, maybe a rogue then either a mage/shaman then monk)
don't think I'll get a mage anymore
grim pilot
mages are so rng
I have my own ways of checking people
and (usually) if it's a serious key and not an upping key
we deplete due to mistakes and not to someone underperforming
analog lantern
I was doing an EB 28 and the mage didn't interrupt the heal which he was assigned to do and no purge, 2nd boss
it was so frustrating
grim pilot
if all goes well
I will grab a fair amount of good keys tomorrow
realistically
might be around 3660-3670
analog lantern
I have my own ways of checking people
how do you check people then
grim pilot
logs
simple as that
and then I look for specific stuff in logs
niche things and depends on class/dungeon but yeah
it doesnt help 100% of the time but most of the time I find decent pugs
analog lantern
and then I look for specific stuff in logs
can you give an example?
grim pilot
deaths in the logged keys, prio damage, boss damage, relatively to the group if they were carried in most of their keys or have they pulled their own weight
and raid logs if they're really good
people find it weird
but I cba
really
it's a tool, so I'm using it
analog lantern
I feel like this takes a while though and by the time you've had a good look, that person has moved on
grim pilot
idk it takes me 1minute tops
and that's like
if the person has the rio for it
which as u know most of the people applying are much lower than they should be
I had a 3,6 aug apply today and even whisper me with attitude expecting a invite to +30
analog lantern
which as u know most of the people applying are much lower than they should be
wait don't you mean the other way around?
grim pilot
wdym
analog lantern
they're much higher than they should be
analog lantern
sure
grim pilot
I mean I will glance over every person applying just to see if they for example just dont have 1 week done and are doing the keys in that range anyway
it might be fresh char or just started pushing or smth
analog lantern
yeah I usually do that
grim pilot
but if a guy has +26 max timed and wants an invite to +28 then I really wont bother
but yeah, like I said - so far I think it's somewhat worked for me
warm plinth
That happens so much this season. My apps will be filled w/ people at like 2-2.3k applying for 22-24 keys
like bro what
analog lantern
lol
grim pilot
isn't that an every season thing?
warm plinth
Idk didn't really see it last season or the season before
maiden ravine
keys are easier this season so people are trying to push
violet flume
ive devled a bit into 21s lately
had this guy at 450 ilevel trying to host his own +22 group.. lol
i bailed FAST
thorn glacier
best m+ wep enchant? 2 guides suggest different things
cerulean tusk
I had people whisper me, laughing me off as I que to their +20 groups. Just cause my alts gear is bad and score low 
Easily did a +23 rise with my scuffed ~460 pwarr, so don't be too mean to the low ilvl ppl
We get the job done right 
warm plinth
best m+ wep enchant? 2 guides suggest different things
Sim it. It's not gonna be the end of the world if you use one or the other though.
violet flume
oh im sure 450 can get the job done, i just dont trust pugs
cerulean tusk
For 20-25 range, you only need 1 pumper, a tank with a pulse and a healer that presses buttons. The two last spots are a bonus.
So take a chance, maybe you get someone to add into your network for em 25+ keys later on
I still can't get over how many ppl only do 150k overalls in the 20-25 bracket. Sure, it is timed, but it so so much closer than it should be 
grim pilot
For 20-25 range, you only need 1 pumper, a tank with a pulse and a healer that p...
that is so true
I met 2 people recently
a healer and a ret
so for any key up to 27-28 (well not like rise eb or tot) I'm there to tank when we need to up and we are carrying the keys - even if ends up being depleted it's still day and night
compact sleet
is there any reason to not bind shield block with shield slam?
jagged gust
is there any reason to not bind shield block with shield slam?
Might accidentally rage starve yourself
compact sleet
Ok fair
So while I can stack shield block theoretically infinitely, there’s a fine line between always pushing it, but also having enough rage for everything else
Makes sense
sullen gust
is there any reason to not bind shield block with shield slam?
I mean you also run the risk of having downtime. You can start to fall over really fast if you don't have shield block up in a pull. You can stack a couple charges of block to use, but reapplication will just refresh the active CD rather than extend it.
violet ginkgo
is there any reason to not bind shield block with shield slam?
usually ppl bind the IP and SS not Shield Block and Slam
compact sleet
Oh that also makes sense
pallid quiver
I mean you also run the risk of having downtime. You can start to fall over real...
Wait, are you saying using shield block while shield block is up will just bring you back to 6/8 seconds of shield block depending on talents? your wording on that sentence is weird
If so, that's wrong; they stack up to 3x the duration of your Shield Block, so 18 seconds without enduring defenses, 24 with
pallid quiver
So while I can stack shield block theoretically infinitely, there’s a fine line ...
Also, you only have 100% uptime with specific talents while constantly slapping something; it's possible to macro shield block in and have it drop due to RP in an M+ run, as an example
grim pilot
usually ppl bind the IP and SS not Shield Block and Slam
They bind SS to IP, there's a distinction
pallid quiver
The above also doesn't free up any keybinds, as it's specifically SS to IP to help you snipe SS resets
you still need a normal SS bind in addition
opaque quest
I still can't get over how many ppl only do 150k overalls in the 20-25 bracket. ...
The equivalent of shadow priest FOTM rerollers last season doing 60k
covert flower
I am the biggest m+ wild card DPS going
I'm pretty sure my variance is somewhere in the range of about 25-30%
Could do 300k, could do 220k
Same dungeon ofc
Think there are some factors that matter but also I'm shit
ionic fern
Same.
jagged pier
blazing condor
echo egret
M : mitigated - I apparently didn't have SB up, that's mitigated by my armor then ?
tribal wharf
i think it also counts absorbs like IP or trinkets or externals
would have to double check with someone smarter than i
jagged pier
u can also block without shield block
shield block just makes it 100% chance
otherwise its like 30-40%
blazing condor
Then in the log it'd say "B:"
jagged pier
I didnt say thats what mitigated was just pointing out that is can happen
more for the comment i didnt have shield block up
blazing condor
fair enough
tribal wharf
i want to see what ai art thinks the new TWW zones will look like
it gave me charcters rather than zones 😦
now its just re-drawing maldraxxus
lusty tiger
The war without
tribal wharf
i really like the bottom left one
reminds me of MTG mountain card art
this one i call the "the earthen throne" , totally reminds me of end of wc3 but with dirt
teal swift
tribal wharf
is su pposed to gif lop 😦 gd twitter download, ialways knew i hated twitter lmao
lusty tiger
💯
tribal wharf
Having that last sentence with proper grammar and not being edited was super important to me lol.
Never enjoyed using twitter, but some times i have to to talk to some ppl :S
lusty tiger
Same
tribal wharf
i use twitter soley out of spite
to contact people i cant contact other ways
because i think its such a dumb platform, like facebook minus
go on there and say "i dont like tomatoes on hamburgers" and then get a million retweets or somethin, wtf is that
lusty tiger
Garbage
Twitter is just a supply to the demand of being chronically online
There are some okay things about it like companies having a simple real time platform for updating customers (bands/developers/etc)
median tulip
I quit Twitter when the emerald mine fascist purchased it
lusty tiger
I mean there’s no point in singling him out when he’s one of many evils
Twitter just sucks in general
median tulip
He is the evil in charge, tho
lusty tiger
In charge of twitter yeah
blazing condor
the less time you spend chronically online the better
saves your sanity
to not interact with ppl who have nothing better to do
median tulip
to not interact with ppl who have nothing better to do
That's a very interesting sentiment to be expressing in a wow discord channel, NGL
waxen frigate
i use twitter soley out of spite
Yogi doesn’t follow me on twitter dot com 😦
blazing condor
That's a very interesting sentiment to be expressing in a wow discord channel, N...
im not saying im any better
im full degen
but its still true
waxen frigate
<:yep:703420923625078804>
I’m terminally online
Interacting in half a dozen chats all day so I don’t have to formulate independent thoughts and just yap instead
blazing condor
real
median tulip
I just chat to y'all as a break from studying
waxen frigate
I just chat to y'all as a break from studying
I do it at work because my job is very slow
median tulip
heh
at the start of the pandemic there was a point where the UK government were paying me to play wow
waxen frigate
The US government effectively pays me to shitpost on discord and scan papers
median tulip
and you're all outta paper?
waxen frigate
and you're all outta paper?
Actually did happen during my last project
Before I moved to current position (same job, just different actual task/sssignment)
I was prepping records for retirement aka printing them out and putting them in folders
Ran out of both paper and ink at different points
median tulip
well, as long as you get paid
waxen frigate
(My boss dramatically underestimated how much stuff there was)
Yeah. I don’t make good money but it’s money.
And not stressful
waxen frigate
(My boss dramatically underestimated how much stuff there was)
“It’ll be about 4-6 weeks”
(It was 6 months)
median tulip
Those are the best ones
I used to be an IT contractor
Getting a gig because "we need someone for 4-6 weeks" so you quote them the high rate for short term
tribal wharf
being in IT is good if you are smart and work for old dumb boomers
median tulip
and then they don't get their shit together and 6 months later you're still there on top money
tribal wharf
they will believe anything you tell them
waxen frigate
Ya unfortunately it was so mind numbingly boring for 6 months
tribal wharf
"my autocad doesnt work"
"must be a problem with the server again..."
waxen frigate
So I jumped at the opportunity to move over to a different role
Also means I save commute time since I now skip rush hour
tribal wharf
that'll take about 3 weeks (only takes like 3 hours if your not dicking around)_
i see they are running AI IT now, says it helps with website problems no idea, im not a html coder guy
waxen frigate
Yeah my current job I only use like half the amount of time allotted to me to get the work done. And even that is doing it slow
tribal wharf
my assumption is those bots are luaghable to certified IT
waxen frigate
I also am like able to assist other people when needed but usually it’s not needed
Like today—I scanned in the morning group for today about 30 minutes ago. Don’t have anything else until after lunch
tribal wharf
all i can think of is those anon works it greentext videos from 4chan read by AI
ive never had to do real IT thankfully
hazy bronze
Yogi my Autocad doesn't work. Can I hire you to be my daddy?
dusky canopy
Mastercam bis
tribal wharf
sorry the website database might be down
probably gunna take me about 2 more weeks
its complicated stuff
uneven mason
That worked so many times at my job
Eventually the business manager was like 
"You say that when you don't want to immediately address the problem and want us to go away, don't you?"
Is it now or in an hour when vaults pop up
lusty tiger
Meanwhile I have to explain to my boss why I can’t make an excel + one drive replacement that works better because I am one guy and not a multi billion dollar company
uneven mason
Meanwhile I have to explain to my boss why I can’t make an excel + one drive rep...
why do they need to replace it?
lusty tiger
Because they have a IT team of 14 it that has found the worst way to implement every part of our stack
waxen quarry
Because they have a IT team of 14 it that has found the worst way to implement e...
the usual
lusty tiger
And our stack is basic bitch af. We are accounting corporate for a not for profit school
uneven mason
Because they have a IT team of 14 it that has found the worst way to implement e...
I offer ITBM process consulting @ $235.00 an hour, hmu
lusty tiger
LOL
They get milked so bad by consultants
5 guys on a call. 10x forced email exchanges
uneven mason
It's fucking bad
Kidding though, I'm an engagement manager
And half my job is reining in those fucks
"did we need 2 technical assets on this call?" No, we needed zero because it was discovery phase
lusty tiger
I’m the only one who writes software and I still need to put in work orders to update any of my IDEs/programs/etc
uneven mason
Trying to triple bill customers so it looks like we're doing something
lusty tiger
Yep
uneven mason
Makes me mad
lusty tiger
It’s just a high end scam
uneven mason
Like, if the customer feels like there's no roi for the process consult, they're not going to bring us back for the build phase
tribal wharf
watch the game treies to give me leech egg shell again
im taking it if so
only if with leech or only good pick
uneven mason
lusty tiger
I’m learning Golang and docker so I can get a real job
Jr dev positions are dried up after 60 years conveniently right as I enter the workforce
lusty tiger
No I want to learn real software
tribal wharf
if i see heart frokm dht with tert i will insta take thhat one too or cheat
uneven mason
So the parent company this year decided no raises, we lost 2 team leads and 3 sr system architects yesterday
tribal wharf
cheat whast im actually ant
lusty tiger
Certs, boot camps, and degrees are so inflated now
lusty tiger
So the parent company this year decided no raises, we lost 2 team leads and 3 sr...
Holy crap
lusty tiger
u have a job
I have a job it is just cringe with the benefit of a lot of freetime
uneven mason
Ngl I flipped my linkdn to actively looking
lusty tiger
Ngl I flipped my linkdn to actively looking
For sure as you should lol
tribal wharf
if i see myth cheat dfeath trinket im giga insta picking that no other consideration unless shield to see if it hase
lusty tiger
LinkedIn pisses me off it is 95% irrelevant advertising and data mining people applying for low level positions (by forcing them to sign up to random websites to apply)
Such a steaming pile of dogshit
hazy bronze
They get milked so bad by consultants
I wish I was then
lusty tiger
I wish I was then
fallow fern
what you guys think... is a 483 chest with leech better than a 489 without leech?
jagged pier
no
fallow fern
489 is still better?
jagged pier
yes
warm plinth
do we get rageheart from vault today
uneven mason
what you guys think... is a 483 chest with leech better than a 489 without leech...
Tertiary stats are worth zero ilvl
fallow fern
Tertiary stats are worth zero ilvl
didnt they used to be equivalent to like 10 ilvls?
waxen quarry
no
fallow fern
oh
waxen quarry
maybe back in the old days
waxen quarry
but rn its just defensive/speed
tribal wharf
what it its ring slot tert
tribal wharf
cuz not main stat
waxen quarry
still losing a fuck ton of secondaries
tert is never worth over ilvl
or socket
socket is 1k dps tert is 0
uneven mason
No amount of leech beats 2ndaries loss
tribal wharf
uneven mason
Speed however
tribal wharf
this socket is worth 0 dps in my heart
uneven mason
Speed set worth 20ilvl at least
warm plinth
You could maybe make an argument for a small ilevel loss for avoidance if you're a DPS/healer and doing giga high keys
But not for a tank
uneven mason
You could maybe make an argument for a small ilevel loss for avoidance if you're...
Be more worthwhile minmax vers at that point
warm plinth
and pretty sure healers sacrifice a bit of ilevel for leech
tribal wharf
i could do spark and tehn craft 2 hand weapon
warm plinth
good DPS ring but no haste kinda sadge
fallow fern
well i like the ilvl upgrade anyways cause it puts me over 487 .. rather than being stuck at 486.9 😅
tribal wharf
i cant even remember if that 2 pc set is good or not
i like mini sets like that, 2-3 items,
warm plinth
It's better than nothing but the trinket isn't particularly good so you wouldn't use it (plus I'm pretty sure it's an int trinket, so irrelevant for us anyway)
uneven mason
well i like the ilvl upgrade anyways cause it puts me over 487 .. rather than be...
486.9 sound optimal
tribal wharf
i seeem to recall it was lcasters that wanted it in bfa
i cant recall if it was healer or dps
i think it was mostly a healer thing, no idea
warm plinth
Idk, I don't remember that far back, especially with healer shit
tribal wharf
warm plinth
tribal wharf
dmg when dealing dmg and healing while doing healing and if 2 pc chance for 1 thing to do the other thing
warm plinth
A lot of DPS already have some form of passive self healing/self absorbs anyway
tribal wharf
also, its dps job to not stand in the bad and not die
dps dies = GG
well, rip 299 leech
uneven mason
I think Raidbots is fucked atm
It's literally telling me that upgrading my tier chest from 483 to 489 is a DPS loss
tribal wharf
i lost faith in wow bots sites about performance and sims after it told me i didnt sharpening stoen my shield in de other side
warm plinth
It's literally telling me that upgrading my tier chest from 483 to 489 is a DPS ...
link sim?
warm plinth
you didn't select the enchant for the 489
uneven mason
shouldn't it always selected the default enchant
tribal wharf
pepegamusic.mp3
uneven mason
I'd figured 6 ilvls would be worth more than an enchant
turns out that the DPS increase is the non tier chest, convert my helm
warm plinth
It's 150 strength so pretty significant
tribal wharf
dont we normally craft rings for like frood or i guess thats just 1 ring
i know you cant food the tp ring
warm plinth
median tulip
dmg when dealing dmg and healing while doing healing and if 2 pc chance for 1 th...
It's an INT trinket
median tulip
I have both the ring and trinket on my Priest. It's ok.
tribal wharf
i know every caster was (and still is) after that damn tree branch from wcm
opaque quest
Puzzle box and ring was decent in BFA. Ring at least has/had bis stats for rsham
warm plinth
There was one in Legion as well, the trinket and ring combo (trinket was from Arcway iirc)
actually 2 in Legion; the opera ones
waxen quarry
dont we normally craft rings for like frood or i guess thats just 1 ring
you can choose ur stats and u get a socket
cant get much better than that
tribal wharf
this is slightly cursed to protection warrior chat, but i dont think i was about to see a helmet for a while anyways
only if theres no brez in the group i suppose :S
opaque quest
Why would it be cursed. Doesnt matter. There is no haste crit helmet iirc
There is a haste mas from raid
lusty grotto
yeah i mean its fine, its not an embelish either
tribal wharf
i suppose i could have just crafted a normal BS helmet too? oh well
maybe ill do that next
opaque quest
Funny number hehe
I would agree too. Unless youre on 7500 haste engi helmet is fine
split pendant
just here to say that i am having a lot of fun playing prot. i run into the enemies and they try to make me fall down, but cannot. i leap at them with a fiercesome gnomish shout. i get lost and the group notices and it's not a big deal. thank you.
lusty tiger
Funny number hehe
:}
crystal mauve
only if theres no brez in the group i suppose :S
I haven’t been lucky enough to have a br often in my group or they are usually the one dying so I’ve been rocking the eng br since week 4. It’s fine 🙂
tribal wharf
ill try it for like 10 keys
and if i find i cant cast it enough ill seek another myth haste helm
tribal wharf
wish every farm key i ran was as smooth as that group i just ran with
only did 1 lust at i think final boss, still 3 chest
violet ginkgo
having rageheart is really2 nice, extra uh oh button. A shield absorb combined with our mitigation at least will stabilize a lot before healer can re-heal us.
violet ginkgo
oh yeah the damage is nice too to keep the adds aggro to you
pop shield, building aggro, damn... so nice
warm plinth
next season we can get rageheart+all-totem 
lusty grotto
beaconnnnn
warm plinth
I am looking forward to beacon again
Look how good I am
my 473 ass died so much I didn't even beat the tank
opaque quest
beaconnnnn
Cast. Fuck that
warm plinth
22 DHT
lusty grotto
Cast. Fuck that
at least its hastened unlike puzzlebox
opaque quest
Puzzle box will be bis for me again on UDK
ionic roost
I am looking forward to beacon again
I am not an enjoyer of coinflipping crits
opaque quest
Just let me use rezan augury every season so i can turn my brain off
warm plinth
I am not an enjoyer of coinflipping crits
It won't be my #1 buy probably but I'll get it eventually
opaque quest
Definitely yea
I bet my #1 will be augury
Then ill farm puzzle box
And call it good
lusty grotto
we still gotta see the sim numbers
cause for example
anvil vs signet
basically the same trinket except one is manually activated
violet ginkgo
what is anvil's cd again? 1 min?
tribal wharf
ps 2 m
lusty grotto
but to be fair, OCE and Icon are adjustable to a specific stat so they are kind of superior
to pip
opaque quest
OCE will probably be bis. Everybody has it + you can change stat. icon is vers only for dps
tribal wharf
OCE is really good
violet ginkgo
rashok molten heart for healer XD
tribal wharf
thats why, MS + pick your secondary get 1000 of that
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
like, ya???
no shit is good lol
opaque quest
rashok molten heart for healer XD
Was nerfed hard at the end of S2
violet ginkgo
yeah but who knows they rebuff it again?
tribal wharf
tri- MS at that
violet ginkgo
it's just that good to solve some mana problem I heard
opaque quest
yeah but who knows they rebuff it again?
Possible. Just saying
tribal wharf
OCE is the giga stat stick
lusty grotto
all of this depends on final numbers for the fated season anyway
tribal wharf
oce + pips i imagine
violet ginkgo
btw anvil vs brand which one is taking more time to build up to max stack?
opaque quest
2 passive stat sticks is a horrible idea
opaque quest
Its a bad idea for everybody that doesnt have CDs up every 15 seconds like BM
lusty grotto
okay
tribal wharf
spooder egg was the MVP pick
lusty grotto
and i believe razy trinket was already mentioned, spiteful storm
lusty grotto
faceless ire as a ghetto sac also
lusty grotto
no
opaque quest
boon as well
I said last week boon will be bis and its pissing me off cause no zoom zoom
tribal wharf
yes dread plates winky face
tribal wharf
do esnt it provide a bazillion armor and asborb or somethin
tribal wharf
so, keys wont change for final season 4 i guess or there is no s4
im not sure how this is meant to work
tribal wharf
uldaman is i will never play that dungeo ever again without 3k placyers in voice
im not runnin it lol
lusty grotto
its fine
just 5 boss dungeons shouldn't fucking happen
HoI is the absolute worst one though
tribal wharf
i dont understand why you say 5 boss dungeon is bad but okay
lusty grotto
and with the changes to AV, its a strong contender to being ass
lusty grotto
i dont understand why you say 5 boss dungeon is bad but okay
because tyrannical exists
median tulip
The problem with Uldaman is that 75% of all affixes are "sucks to do this in a narrow corridor, huh?", and Ulda is nothing but
lusty grotto
how many dungeons in M+ have you done with FIVE bosses?
tribal wharf
where is the issue more precisely you feel
lusty grotto
it is the dungeon with MOST bosses in any season
tribal wharf
that they deal too much dmg or take in too much dmg
median tulip
There's always a 5 boss dungeon, as there's always a 3 boss dungeon
median tulip
ToP and Street were 5
lusty grotto
ill wait
steets had 4
ToP did have 5, but it wasnt as long as uldaman honestly
either way most people hated ToP on tyrannical for the same reason
tribal wharf
theatre was its own pain in the ass to run
lusty grotto
ah yeah streets had 5
tribal wharf
but at least it was fucking entertaining
half the reaseon i kept going back to theatre
that and that damn axe!!!
ran the dungeon 30 times....... 70 times?????? i cant remember, some ungodly amount of times to get 2h axe
never got it
waxen quarry
either way most people hated ToP on tyrannical for the same reason
first boss on tyran
overkilling the tank by 2x tanks hp
el mortal strike
lusty grotto
so SL was the expansion to blame on 5 boss dungeons
another thing to hate fucking SL for
lusty grotto
but at least both streets and top where like 5 pull dungeons
lusty grotto
tbf u could have 3 and still be cancer as fuck
yeah not saying otherwise
but there's way more chances of fucking up on a 5 boss dungeon during tyrannical
waxen quarry
definitely
in the case of top
bosses were consistently cringe
in terms of checks and just raw damage
lusty grotto
at least it had 2 banger bosses
waxen quarry
best part was holding cds on xav
lusty grotto
cause duel was 
waxen quarry
and then just obliterate the duel
lusty grotto
and last boss was kinda fun tbh
waxen frigate
ah yeah streets had 5
Streets had some great parts some shit parts
Imo remove Music boss
Remove RP from auction boss
And it’s good
lusty grotto
yeah i mean streets isnt the worst one out of those 3
opaque quest
Im mad i came back for Season 4 in SL
I hated Streets and Gambit
And all the SL dungeons in general
lusty grotto
the only bad part about SL dungeons was the different buffs with covenants
also you and i didnt play the later versions so
im sure they must have nerfed a few of them
at least from the OG lineup
median tulip
ah yeah streets had 5
I mean I guess the Music might not really count, but yeah, officially 5
median tulip
Waycrest was BfA and had 5
Eye of Azshara was LEgion and had 5
So was Halls of Valour
lusty grotto
yeah
its still a shit design decision
they are too long
made longer by more than 4 bosses
long distances to walk
lusty grotto
everbloom had never been a m+ dungeon
median tulip
So yeah 5 boss dungeons go back a long long way
lusty grotto
we're not talking about dungeons outside of M+
im not new man
if you wanna list everything
median tulip
But yeah, every expansion since M+ has been a thing has had a mix of 3, 4 and 5 boss dungeons
median tulip
If anything there are fewer in later expansions
Waycrest is arguably the easiest key this season, and that's 5
lusty grotto
except for a few exceptions
☝️
median tulip
I mean part of that is that the second boss is a joke to us, but w/e
lusty grotto
nobody likes EoA, nobody likes HoV, nobody likes Arcway, nobody likes HoI, nobody likes Uldaman, nobody liked VotW
streets, top, wcm are the exceptions
median tulip
ToP was the best
and entire dungeon of "I don't have to give a fuck about any of this"
median tulip
That wasn't because of the bosses
median tulip
That was because of the doors
jagged gust
doors really was a nice qol improvement tho
lusty grotto
because witches this season are cake
median tulip
doors really was a nice qol improvement tho
💯
lusty grotto
but in bfa if you didnt have doors to first boss witches, you were fucked in tyrannical
median tulip
because witches this season are cake
You say that, but there are still some people who manage to fuck it up
lusty grotto
because then you had to third boss it and potentially brick the key
median tulip
The thing is, in a 3 boss dungeon the bosses tend to be tuned higher, which causes its own issues. Exhibit A being Tyrannical Ingra Maloch.
lusty grotto
i dont think thats the case
thats just feelcraft
timers are tuned lower sure
bosses arent tuned higher or lower
median tulip
I remember there was some analysis back in BfA that the Mists bosses took almost a minute longer on average than the overall boss average
tribal wharf
3-5 bosses is a good amount for any key, anything more or less is unacceptable