Nevermind the fact that as an afterlife skyhold was 10000% human directed
#protection
median tulip
I always enjoy the opportunity to beat Odyn up
"Hey you! You think everything can be solved by violence; pity I'm better at it than you are."
pallid quiver
i love that warriors had a class specific line when going to meet Odyn for the thunder drake things in Dragonflight
where you could say you knew him personally, and that you could not WAIT to punch him in the face. It was more intense than the one available to everyone that was similar to wanting to punch Odyn
median tulip
I totally selected that line
Frankly, more of the godlike powers around me could do with being reminded that I am not affraid to punch them in the face
pallid quiver
Anyone who didn't pick that line if playing a Warrior is a total nerd and loser
median tulip
Like Wrathion. In the storyline there's a bit where you have to beat up a few Djaradin for him, and he's all like "call upon the black talons if you need help"
Wrathion, my dude
Do you remember that time I killed a God for you?
I'll be fine
pallid quiver
I think it's usually implied that adventurers are exponentially stronger the more of them there are
which brings into question why we don't fire like half the armies of each faction and force them to become adventurers; the burning crusade wouldn't have been shit if we could throw 400 man raids at them
median tulip
For me, the core class fantasy of Warrior is that there are all this amazing cosmic hyperbeing threats to the universe
And I hit them in the face with a sharp bit of metal until they die
Because I am simply TOO ANGRY TO DIE
opaque quest
pog
opaque quest
Not yet
Will do soon
When im done building the new rig
I fixed Mayas stroke at least
lusty tiger
ER = eternal return?
opaque quest
Elden Ring
lusty tiger
opaque quest
Does PhysX in BL2 kill your FPS by half too? I got 300 but as soon as i shoot my hornet and make just 1 drop of C O R R O S I O N its 110
violet ginkgo
I am late to the party, just read about colossus hero talent.
That demolish is confirmed to be channel?
tribal wharf
final talent, read that
cinder oak
Sorry if this is a dumb question but my brain is hurting. I thought I wanted to make a macro for Shield Charge into a Demo shout but for whatever reason the only I am using below doesn't work:
/castsequence reset=45 Shield charge, Demoralizing Shout
But if I swap them round, it works? Is it because there is travel time in shield charge?
violet ginkgo
Well then I hope the channel at least hasted.
lusty grotto
its a channel
but youre immune to cc kind of
it doesnt seem to be super long
i would expect less or equal time channeled like Fyralath
lusty grotto
Sorry if this is a dumb question but my brain is hurting. I thought I wanted to ...
wont work cause demo is on the global cooldown
you'd have to hit twice
violet ginkgo
Sometimes it’s not CC I am afraid, sometimes its when we in the middle of channel then suddenly enemy drop aoe
lusty grotto
well
youre a tank
most swirlies wont kill you
nor hit too hard
why would you want to shield charge first
violet ginkgo
Touche, well arms brother probably pray for slayer then. I doubt they want to channel things into colosal smash window.
warm plinth
Sorry if this is a dumb question but my brain is hurting. I thought I wanted to ...
Cast sequence macros require a button press for each ability.
lusty grotto
if you shield charge first shield charge doesnt get the buff from demo
so you're wasting some free damage
lusty grotto
Touche, well arms brother probably pray for slayer then. I doubt they want to ch...
not a big dps loss, but sure you shouldnt CS first
warm plinth
Also it's probably not spell order? I am pretty sure Shield Charge is off GCD sometimes but not others? Isn't it off-GCD if you use it from range but on GCD if you use it in melee?
lusty grotto
yeah i fixed my answer
SC is off-gcd
BUT
there's potential travel time
if youre not melee casting
cinder oak
you'd have to hit twice
Aye, I thought that but on initial press Shield Charge goes straight into CD and Demo doesn't even show in the sequence so I don't even get the chance of a 2nd press.
Ty for the help though, 100% don't want to lose dam y'know
lusty grotto
it not a good macro to have honestly
cinder oak
Nah I've scrapped it already
lusty grotto
highly not recommended
cinder oak
ty for the input, good to know
lusty grotto
anyway we start smoldy prog tonight
the guild im in had to reform a month ago
so took like 3 weeks to get back to smoldy/tswift
violet ginkgo
Grats on normal rageheart nim, at least that is rageheart.
lusty grotto
yee but im not sure what to do for vaults, im probably sticking to prot spec until i get a myth track one
opaque quest
Did you kill Fyrakk myth yet?
Cause if not there is no rageheart from myth for you
Or are the heroic versions myth cause very rare
hardy snow
yes, both augur and rageheart are myth track, can upgrade to 489
hardy snow
and Eranog's ring
hearty terrace
Got the best complament today I got the wow I didn't expect a low lvl Warrior to pull that big on a 20 and your health didn't move
lusty tiger
<@193453212500623360> <:deadge:900279927138578432>
Literally 
opaque quest
Your rounds are just as unbalanced right?
strong forum
strong forum
Below
lusty grotto
hell yeah brother
strong forum
Is not the whole text
chilly brook
<a:ratJAMMIN:942821743456837632>
ARE YOU FINALLY THE WOWHEAD WRITER?
strong forum
Yes
lusty grotto
griff missed the ghash leak
orchid mural
thank god.
orchid mural
nope.
strong forum
lusty grotto
i... might go fury for prog though
lusty grotto
just scared
strong forum
Pssy
lusty grotto
lol
strong forum
Make healers work for their money!
lusty grotto
trueee
crystal mauve
strong forum
Ty ty!
opaque quest
<a:ratJAMMIN:942821743456837632>
Another german elected into an important office
I love that the cloud is huge on the WoWhead page. Deserved. Big cloud for a guy with big clout
opaque quest
So they are fine- everyone is poop
No 30-1 vs 2-15 tanks yet?
Maybe my rounds are more imbalanced cause there are less peeps in Dia
violet ginkgo
Another german elected into an important office
It’s OK we trust the Germans.
opaque quest
It’s OK we trust the Germans.
You should. Not like we would have ever given anybody a reason not to
Btw is Llarold ret? I thought he would at least play warr but as dps
No wonder his bias was palpable
ionic fern
No idea what he currently plays.
Doubt it was warrior (outside of an alt).
opaque quest
Wild that WoWhead allows someone that doesnt main the class to write the guide. Damn
ionic fern
🤷
It's fine in my books , if they are playing it as an alt, and as long as the information is relevant and correct.
What if i told you i'm a mage main. 
opaque quest
Eh i agree on that. Im not saying its a bad thing im just saying there are probably 5000 people that have more in depth knowledge or hands on experience
ionic fern
Definitely, jeah - but if you're "in the system", and don't have any major complaints, people just roll with it.
opaque quest
Like the nome cd rotation for DHT second boss i.e. I doubt someone that plays a specc as alt could explain that as deeply as nome
opaque quest
Definitely, jeah - but if you're "in the system", and don't have any major compl...
Yeah true
opaque quest
You know how people are
vale bolt
Wild that WoWhead allows someone that doesnt main the class to write the guide. ...
I don't think there are many warrior mains left anymore tbf. Most have just gone to pally because it's just better in every way now unfortunately
opaque quest
I don't think there are many warrior mains left anymore tbf. Most have just gone...
Yeah true that. I just always though WoWhead approaches people and handpicks their writers since they have such a big reach
ionic fern
Going by that logic, Sense would be the "go-to".
opaque quest
Yes and no. You dont have to pick the absolute best prot in the world but maybe not someone that doesnt play the class as a main
opaque quest
True that. I just never thought about how wowhead operates
I thought dude rerolls = new guide writer
ionic fern
Nope.
Definitely not.
"Maining" the class might be the initial requirement, but as time goes on, i doubt they pay attention to it.
Generally speaking, most of the writers in WoWHead/IV for tanks are collaborating and discussing tanks (all of them). They can just suggest someone to be the next guide writer as the need rises.
opaque quest
Yup. Was a "but in a perfect world XXX would happen"
opaque quest
Logistically speaking 100%. For someone that just reads all that doesnt matter
Absolute pain
ionic fern
Logistically speaking 100%. For someone that just reads all that doesnt matter
Probably. Idk if people even check the author tbf.
opaque quest
Probably. Idk if people even check the author tbf.
People cant even read pins. Probably not
restive scroll
It's just a common trend nowadays.
Makes people feel like it comes from an individual rather than a big organisation. (Not the only reason, but mostly)
opaque quest
Ill just come here. No giga brain in the world beats the hive mind
opaque quest
Gotta figure out who you can trust
safe heron
It's just a common trend nowadays.
Makes people feel like it comes from an indiv...
ppl nowdays still cant use google
i think 50% of wow players dunno wowhead exists
ionic fern
Tbf, 50% of them probably don't care.
Just casuals enjoying the game doing w/e they want.
😂
ionic fern
I've offered my help to countless pug warrior tanks.
safe heron
i believe they all refused
ionic fern
Actually 1 of them took it.
Rest started yelling at me how i don't know the class.
And/or that they play what they want.
Which is fair.
I'd also be sceptical if some rando DM's me in game after a dungeon offering advise on my class.
opaque quest
The amount of people yelling at me "YOU DONT PAY MY SUB" when i tried to help is insane
People need to realize not everybody is flaming and trying to help
ionic fern
Jeah, but lets say someone DM's you on a class you don't play that often and offers you talent advise.
Idk if he's talking crap or not.
😂
opaque quest
Ya obviously dont take advise from some 1500 main IO dude
ionic fern
I wouldn't take advise from 3.5k IO dudes either seeing what some of them are doing.
My point was, that some random person just DM's you and tells you to run "X,Y,Z".
Already sounds fishy.
opaque quest
Im not talking about people that push 25s here. Im talking about people throwing turbo hard in 18s and making them 3 times longer
lusty grotto
im also a vanilla prot warrior otp
but
sense is just a god
im just a boomer
human being
waxen frigate
I wouldn't take advise from 3.5k IO dudes either seeing what some of them are do...
Same tbh imagine only being 3.5k
waxen frigate
i think 50% of wow players dunno wowhead exists
It’s likely a much higher % than that
lusty grotto
I wouldn't take advise from 3.5k IO dudes either seeing what some of them are do...
especially if they admitted to rotation botting
like ahem
Toadcop
waxen frigate
Wild that WoWhead allows someone that doesnt main the class to write the guide. ...
Tanking in particular is very multiclass by nature
That being said I think there’s something to be said about truly understanding a spec enough to be a guide writer
safe heron
Wild that WoWhead allows someone that doesnt main the class to write the guide. ...
99% of wow players are fotm
So that is really hard someone who plays for example affli on the high level just because noone does it
ionic fern
@warm plinth , you know stuff like this - are there any events providing more XP on-going atm for alt leveling?
Also, hello, ily.
ionic fern
Same tbh imagine only being 3.5k
Same, bunch of noobs.
jagged pier
Mwahi playing new alt? 👀
ionic fern
Got the weekend off after a long-long time, so was planning to level a Warlock.
jagged pier
😮
ionic fern
I have a weird relationship with Warlocks.
I always want to play Affliction due to it being nostalgic - but i never actually get around to it.
ionic fern
Still have to hit 40 in sod <:seramore:917663298869145640>
I haven't even touched SoD. 😦
Was hyped about it and had plans to play it..but here we are.
jagged pier
I have the same with every tank but bdk, then i finally do 1 key and am like eh yer thats enough 
jagged pier
I haven't even touched SoD. 😦
Was hyped about it and had plans to play it..but ...
On 5th they putting exp increase to 39 i think
ionic fern
I have the same with every tank but bdk, then i finally do 1 key and am like eh ...
That's why my BDK is still sitting infront of a dungeon.
jagged pier
Like 100% increase i think
jagged pier
That's why my BDK is still sitting infront of a dungeon.<:keks:93623161085089799...
I logged in, changes my vdh talents, then went eh thats enough for now
ionic fern
VDH is actually the one tank that i've done more dungeons on..but the lack of buttons they have feels weird.
So now i'm just doing some keys on my Mage and weeklies on Warrior.
jagged pier
Yer i noticed that when doing the talents i was like there are no huttons
I did a few keys on shammy this season
Meatballig is fun
ionic fern
Resto?
jagged pier
Ele
ionic fern
jagged pier
No one wants to see me try and heal
ionic fern
😂
Healing gets you into keys fast tho.
Off-topic, but Shaman has amazing visuals. Hope they bring some of those lightning visuals to MT.
jagged pier
Just ask guildies for a boost
Im not a fan for the lightning stuff personally i like the lava stuff which is why now its i like it cause you just fire off meatballs all the time
And you just get guildies to boost mever pug
ionic fern
Imagine having guildies to boost.
You can boost my warlock instead with your guildies.
jagged pier
True i have like 1 but he has high io so ppl sign up for his groups
jagged pier
You can boost my warlock instead with your guildies.
Ill fo low keys on vdh with ir lock ez meta comp
ionic fern
Isn't Destro warlock meta?
jagged pier
I thought it was demo or affi now
jagged pier
Affi pumps in aoe at least
ionic fern
Affi pumps in aoe at least
Since when?
jagged pier
🤷
jagged pier
Our lock rerolled on affi to blow up roots and trees on tindrall
ionic fern
jagged pier
He would have topped that stuff if we didnt have a deva
I mean u can go look at our logs
ionic fern
All of our locks are Demo. 😦
Guess i gotta look into it.
Need to learn how to play Affliction anyways.
jagged pier
I could be wrong but he was pumping everytime he had to burst
waxen frigate
I thought it was demo or affi now
Destro was played nonstop in MDI
Idk about live keys
Demo cranks in raid, at least the relevant bosses
jagged pier
Its lock all 3 specs are probably good
ionic fern
Its lock all 3 specs are probably good
QUick look at the warlock discord says that affliction is actively trash in m+ compared to other specs.
waxen frigate
QUick look at the warlock discord says that affliction is actively trash in m+ c...
trusting the warlock discord on anything ever
they are the sandbag gods
ionic fern
Every discord is sandbag.
waxen frigate
warlocks are literally like
on another level
they can have 2 of the top dps in the game
and convince everyone they suck
every singel tier
jagged pier
Every discord is sandbag. <:FingerGuns:1194196678316675153>
We dont sandbag as much as the rest tho
jagged pier
blazing condor
I dont like sand
waxen frigate
I dont like sand
I don't like you. Shut up.
blazing condor
hearty terrace
Hey with M+ only what are the Verse braces like? Worth it or just rock 2 Shadowflame
tribal wharf
allied companionship or some crap? the flame patch is better is short version
hearty terrace
allied companionship or some crap? the flame patch is better is short version
Yeah the allied 🙂 yeah cool so just shadowfame with Crit Hast on it? 🙂
tribal wharf
haste crit/ haste versa cloak and wrist with shadowflames
waxen frigate
vers wrists are worth imo if you offspec dps in keys as well
it isn't a huge difference
hearty terrace
haste crit/ haste versa cloak and wrist with shadowflames
Yeah mad dog thanks thought it may as well be
tribal wharf
this channel will probably murder me for saying versa,
waxen frigate
yeah yogi im swatting you rn
hearty terrace
vers wrists are worth imo if you offspec dps in keys as well
It's more of a raid thing I will be playing Arms/Fury
waxen frigate
It's more of a raid thing I will be playing Arms/Fury
ah
tribal wharf
but its a tiny difference if you use that missive instead of crit haste, only minor difference
jagged pier
I dont like sand
Peak dialogue
blazing condor
w rizz
pallid quiver
QUick look at the warlock discord says that affliction is actively trash in m+ c...
The biggest issue with Aff is that it usually has to go pretty hard into ST or AOE with its talents, so if there's extended periods without one of those being available, say, going into a Boss in M+ that's pure, ST, their damage value go big down, particularly when compared to the other Lock specs. They're quite good otherwise, though
i'm like two hours late but
waxen frigate
The biggest issue with Aff is that it usually has to go pretty hard into ST or A...
Ya but lots of other specs have that
I can’t remember but I think aff was meta ar some point this xpac wasn’t it
And ofc it was in Nathria
Nathria aff was a menace
pallid quiver
It's been at least strong in all raids this xpac iirc
waxen frigate
Ya like rn demo is insane for its dmg profile on tindral/fyrakk
But I’m sure aff could work
pallid quiver
I don't think it's been close to meta in comparison to the other two specs in M+, though it's been playable
pallid quiver
I think it can burst harder in its given profile than the other specs given the right timing? Not sure, I actually only really like Aff
waxen frigate
I think it can burst harder in its given profile than the other specs given the ...
Demo? Yeah
Demo tops roots on tindral and adds on fyrakk
By like a mile
You just assign demo lock to it and forget about the mechanic
pallid quiver
It just mostly feels bad that Aff has to specialize more than Destro or Demo in M+
It's still fine and playable and all
waxen frigate
I guess it depends on how much of a loss it is either way imo
The class I’ve been playing recently that feels that way is ppal
Ppal st in m+ build is abysmal
I do like half of my monk or vdh
It’s fine in aoe but it’s cringe to feel so useless on bosses
pallid quiver
That feels like the Aff problem, ye
covert flower
I mean IDK if it has been said already but the rank 1 aff lock is 3440
Like to put that into perspective how disgustingly bad that is the next lowest is around 3650 for any other spec I think?
Might be like dev/pres evoker
grim pilot
I wouldnt strictly look at it that way
waxen frigate
I mean IDK if it has been said already but the rank 1 aff lock is 3440
Not really relevant
covert flower
Yeah but you can't use the "the good looks are just gonna play the other 2 specs"
waxen frigate
Like why play aff
grim pilot
Are gonna play prob destro demo
covert flower
Right, no doubt a lot of the good locks are playing the other 2 specs
But every spec has die hard mains who are good at the game
waxen frigate
If you have access to the other specs and can play them, why not just do that
covert flower
And the BEST aff lock has to offer is 3440?
grim pilot
Eh not really
waxen frigate
Multi Dps classes tend to not really reflect that
True single spec one tricks are rare
covert flower
But they exist
waxen frigate
Plus public perception means even if you are one of those things it’s hard to succeed
Like last season dev Evoker was in BTM
grim pilot
Yeah and maybe theyre not playing m+
waxen frigate
despite being a spec that very easily had the power level to be meta
covert flower
I'm not saying that the other specs being better isn't a factor
waxen frigate
It was just so overshadowed by Aug that like why play it
covert flower
It for sure is a factor
waxen frigate
Exactly
grim pilot
Which is funnier
waxen frigate
Its presence in BTM was hilarious
grim pilot
When you think about it
waxen frigate
It gapped the other specs
covert flower
But it's not creating a 200+ score gap in rank 1 specs by itself
grim pilot
Ok but what other non meta spec is there then
Because all lock has to offer
Is 3 dps specs
1 shit
2 giga good
covert flower
Well let's also consider lock auto scales well into higher keys because they're like what, the second tankiest ranged?
waxen frigate
There’s a ~200io gap between vdh/ppal and any other tanks
Does that mean the other tanks are 200 io worse
No
grim pilot
People just play what’s better
waxen frigate
^
waxen frigate
There’s zero point in playing aff unless you viscerally hate the other 2 specs
grim pilot
Because how easy it is to learn some specs
waxen frigate
If your goal is pushing io
covert flower
Isn't that true for like rogue too though?
waxen frigate
Because how easy it is to learn some specs
Tbh if you’re good at the game you can pick up anything easily
grim pilot
To getting 3.5k on havoc
waxen frigate
Especially in the same rle
grim pilot
4 weeks
covert flower
Would you ever play sin when outlaw exists?
grim pilot
Tbh if you’re good at the game you can pick up anything easily
Sure but some specs are much harder
covert flower
But sin is fine
covert flower
It's still near 3800?
grim pilot
And takes more time to properly learn
covert flower
Not fucking 3440
clever heart
Hey did anyone here play S2 & complete the mythic transmog for warrior ?
I am wondering what it looked like with the 2500+ io special effect thingy.
grim pilot
Because its rogue
waxen frigate
It's still near 3800?
It’s 3701
clever heart
cant find any iamges of it on google
waxen frigate
But also all 3 rogue specs are just very good
grim pilot
And it got a rework this xpac so its good
waxen frigate
Also this is entirely anecdotal but I’ve never met a lock who only plays one spec
I have met rogues that only play one spec
grim pilot
Also mage
waxen frigate
Nah there are people who only play frost
grim pilot
I havent met them
waxen frigate
But fire/arcane not so much
grim pilot
Both mages in my guild
waxen frigate
I havent met them
I know 2 off the top of my head
grim pilot
Play 3 specs
waxen frigate
Play 3 specs
Most do
grim pilot
We had 3 mages
grim pilot
And all played 3 specs
waxen frigate
I think part of it is how different the fantasy of specs can be
Like all the lock specs blend together it’s all demons
But some mfs really don’t want to be pirate rogues
covert flower
Like let's see
Rank one survival hunter is 3750, and it's a super unpopular spec that's performing worse than BM
waxen frigate
Also I can’t remember what was the original argument
waxen frigate
Rank one survival hunter is 3750, and it's a super unpopular spec that's perform...
Survival players are dedicated though
Because it is starkly different
covert flower
Yet it's 300 ahead even still
AND it's hunter so it naturally doesn't scale as well into higher keys
Unless you're babysitting
waxen frigate
AND it's hunter so it naturally doesn't scale as well into higher keys
Surv does fine
grim pilot
Surv is pretty decent no?
waxen frigate
Unless you make them play lust pet
waxen frigate
Surv is also tying back to what I just said
covert flower
It's been considered a meme spec for so long
waxen frigate
It has a very distinct fantasy and dedicated player base as a result
Feral is the same way
waxen frigate
But lock is just all the same
grim pilot
In m+
waxen frigate
Lock players just like being warlocks
covert flower
I mean they have different damage profiles (intended ones anyways)
waxen frigate
The worst spec ive played with
Are you sue it isn’t just the fact there are 2 types of feral players
covert flower
Demo clearly has the fantasy of summoning a legion of demons that do all your damage
waxen frigate
Autistic furries
Autistic furries who have dedicated their lives to mastering feral Druid and minmaxing the shit out of it for years
grim pilot
Yes
covert flower
Destro is the idea of doing cataclysmic spells and damage yourself
grim pilot
The 2nd type
waxen frigate
Demo clearly has the fantasy of summoning a legion of demons that do all your da...
But every lock has demons
Like sure there’s more
But it’s not as distinct
grim pilot
I played with ex guildie that’s a v good raid logger and min maxer
waxen frigate
Tbh also of all the lock specs I think demo has the most dedicated fanbase
grim pilot
And was getting omega gapped by my 1 week old 480 dh
waxen frigate
Aff and Destro… who gives a fuck man
waxen frigate
And was getting omega gapped by my 1 week old 480 dh
But humanity said DH is actually bad 🤓
grim pilot
So if hes getting gapped I cant imagine what not decent ferals are doing
covert flower
TLDR anyways, they're the only spec to not break 3600, and most have broken 3700, the other specs being better makes a difference, but the biggest reason is undoubtedly it is the worst performing spec in the game
waxen frigate
So if hes getting gapped I cant imagine what not decent ferals are doing
Probably having more fun than any of us pretending to be cats
covert flower
It just sucks and needs endless love
waxen frigate
TLDR anyways, they're the only spec to not break 3600, and most have broken 3700...
It’s definitely an underperformer
waxen frigate
It just sucks and needs endless love
Nah fuck warlocks they’re all rats
waxen frigate
Every one of their specs has had multiple shining moments in the past few years
waxen frigate
No distiction
No there’s a distinction
They cry more when Destro is meta bc you walk away from their rain
waxen frigate
On god
ionic fern
I mean IDK if it has been said already but the rank 1 aff lock is 3440
So, what i took from this conversation is that i can easily become the R1 Affliction warlock by just rushing to 3.5k. Thanks.
covert flower
Yes, if you got 3500 on aff lock you'd be rank 1, correct. It's not a complicated take
That is indeed how bigger numbers work when ranked in order of largest to smallest
lusty grotto
good morning
ionic fern
Good morning Nim.
covert flower
Ah, my sarcastic response went even higher over your head apparently.
strong forum
covert flower
Or maybe it's an infinite loop
waxen frigate
<:clueless:1099922541923024997>
Don’t you have a guide to write
ionic fern
Why re-write it 2 times.
Just wait for War Within.
waxen frigate
Why re-write it 2 times.
Just wait for War Within. <:FingerGuns:1194196678316675...
To torture him
tribal wharf
guys clearly you forgot
its t dubz
like as in, "you got t dubz (w's = win, haha very clever). ya bro i do!"
waxen frigate
What the fuck are you saying
tribal wharf
some blizzard persno was trying to push the expansion name TWW as t dubz
and i caught exactly what hes doin, it is clever
lusty grotto
What the fuck are you saying
oblique garnet
So, what i took from this conversation is that i can easily become the R1 Afflic...
Aight im down
ionic fern
Aight im down <:FingerGuns:1194196678316675153>
Don't give me competition, i'm horrible with stress.
waxen frigate
if yogi was 4k io yogi would write the guide
Yeah but you’re not 4K you’re merely an ant in the shadow of my godhood
tribal wharf
feel free to use me as an example anonymously of what NOT to do though if you want lol
writing guide
waxen frigate
Yogi why isn’t your name yogi anymkre
tribal wharf
cuz, not bear, not really
man bear pig? unsuer
mostly sure, who really even knows?
waxen frigate
Yeah now you’re a death ray (commonly associated with a shield and sword)
oblique garnet
Don't give me competition, i'm horrible with stress.
Nah dw i dont have the time to play, but instead ill believe in you
tribal wharf
is my original name besides "god" and "badass" and "duke nukem"
waxen frigate
You’re not god. You’re not badass. You’re not that guy pal.
tribal wharf
runescape wanted name, i choose death, it say no, have to be longer, okay, deathray like cartoon pistol deathray (probably was on tv at the time)
and thats all she wrote, and that name never goin away
waxen frigate
Yogi I want to bareknuckle box you in the middle of an intersection in a historical downtown setting.
tribal wharf
i feel like this is some movie or tv scene from 70s 80s 90s i should but dont know
waxen frigate
No this is an expression of malice.
waxen frigate
I don’t know.
strong forum
Don’t you have a guide to write
i did write like half of it last night yes
blazing condor
pro tip you can just copy what mwahi wrote on icyveins
skyhold tradition to copy eachother
waxen frigate
i did write like half of it last night yes
Nome guide done first or arms/fury articles done first
Place your bets
waxen frigate
True it will be one of the guides yes
Hol up
devout basalt
Nome guide done first or arms/fury articles done first
doesn't archi write those?
waxen frigate
Yea
oblique garnet
He is just offline
devout basalt
oh I misread as nome was writing arms/fury. i'm a dumb
oblique garnet
He just misunderstood what i wrote
waxen frigate
Oh
grim pilot
Is archi also gonna write the pwar one or its under nomes jurisdiction
oblique garnet
Stop fucking overthinking everything 
waxen frigate
😈
ionic fern
Lets make WoWHead do aprils fools by having random class writers write guides for classes they don't play.
jagged pier
https://tenor.com/view/superman-joke-gif-7319521
blazing condor
queue one year of "but i read the guide that vers is our best stat so"
lusty grotto
ff7 rebirth today 🙂
waxen frigate
Weeb shit zzz
lusty grotto
ur also cute
waxen frigate
Keep talking like that jeree’s gonna beat your ass
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
ff7 rebirth today 🙂
..... why should i be interested in this game
serious question not negative bias
lusty grotto
you wouldn't, youre more into obscure 15+ year old games
this is a mainstream mega hyped release, not your cup of tea
waxen frigate
you wouldn't, youre more into obscure 15+ year old games
FF7 is literally so yogi-core I’m actually shocked rn
lusty grotto
also im pretty sure you dont have a ps5
tribal wharf
annggeeaallll
tribal wharf
ya, i know all the fuk about ff7 lmao, not like super turbo nerd about it but i know more than most
lusty grotto
or crisis core
waxen frigate
would be really edgy cool line if i was 14
Your profile picture is duke nukem
lusty grotto
dunno honestly i bought remake on sale and the combat was fun and they're doing things to the story
its a variation of the OG story
tribal wharf
ya, ff7 isnt too bad, some good lore but im not super crazy over it, like, i dont know where barret comes from or details of his gun
lusty grotto
like they added Weiss and Nero in th yuffie dlc and shit
tribal wharf
fuck off with ff7 remake, remake ff8
lusty grotto
i hate ff8, but not as much as ff15
tribal wharf
teased it or ff 9 or 10 for pc, and didnt deliver
fuck you square
never play your shit games
uneven mason
9 legit is when FF jumped the shark
lusty grotto
9 is goated
tribal wharf
9 is pretty good yes
uneven mason
Art style took massive dump
tribal wharf
CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK CLANK
uneven mason
Story was mid
tribal wharf
any time playing as stiener in group
lusty grotto
6 > 7 , 12 > 9, 16, 1 to 5 > 8, 13 > 15
12 was pretty fucking amazing
except for the protagonist
of course
uneven mason
I couldn't bring myself to play anymore after 10 tbh
lusty grotto
you should try 12
tribal wharf
8 is good if you dont forget to (bind>?>equip, whatever you do to equip youir GF (gaurdiain force)
lusty grotto
and also 16
tribal wharf
and you use steal magic
tribal wharf
thats why most players fail at 8 that and the mostly bad limit break system in 8
so, you didnt have alot of ele dmg and you were often weak
tribal wharf
and it was hard to deal huge dmg, so i can see whyt ppl dont like it, ccombine with the "shit emo character"
lusty grotto
gunblades have kinda become a recurrent weapon since
uneven mason
I know
lusty grotto
lol
tribal wharf
however, i personally did enjoy it, i had the strategy guide book for 8 which covered entiire game up to final boss fight
i probably wouldnt have beaten it so fast or at all without
lusty grotto
anyway the best FF is 6, everyone agrees, we're good on that one
uneven mason
Of course thinking back the reason I couldn't get into 8 or 9 probably didn't have much to do with the games themselves
tribal wharf
8 is u have to do the farm the GF shit
uneven mason
anyway the best FF is 6, everyone agrees, we're good on that one
Remake 6 in the 7 remake engine
tribal wharf
thats how u win no other weay
lusty grotto
Remake 6 in the 7 remake engine
fucking absolutely
uneven mason
They could charge 200$ for that game and I'd pay it
lusty grotto
i would day 1 buy even if they split the thing into 5 games
tribal wharf
u have to steal spells u have to lvl up hp def fire dmg whatever on the gf and apply it to character that can most use it
or the game becomes pain in ass
uneven mason
Even if I had to buy a shitty computer to play it
tribal wharf
actually just turn on autocast for ff8 ulti
it doesnt feel as good to play and its dmg is giga nerfed, but its more consistant dmg
that, and never ever for any reason whatsoever fight marlboros on the island in 8, literal death sentence unless you start the fiht with immune to every type of cc, limited to that 1 island for most part
not unless you can 1 shot
waxen frigate
Remember when yogi said who cares about ff7
blazing condor
no
waxen frigate
Hi dog long time no see
blazing condor
hello
waxen frigate
Hope your day is going well
blazing condor
dont get ur hopes up
waxen frigate
Darn
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
8 is just a romantic soap opera with a shit combat system
thankfully, there are worse FFs
tribal wharf
for context i do have a here
lusty grotto
like 15
tribal wharf
i had f8 as first ff game then 9
and never played 7 til about 5-10 year later, then playing crisis core into ff7 and letting my freind who was the opposite hadnt played 8 or crisis core but had played 7,
maybe bit more
so thats why im biased
lusty grotto
maybe you should play the superior god-tier FF first
6
and then maybe give 7 a try
tribal wharf
i speed ran 7
in like 14 hrs 1 siting
guide
had to leave nexzt day and was racing friend, would never hear end if i let him win race
hazy bronze
Who won?
uneven mason
i speed ran 7
No wonder
I had 170 hours on my 7 save
My 6 save was 120~
Because I capped out everyone's magic list and 99'd every character
Let's just say Kefka didn't last long
I got 30 hours into 8 and then decided that everquest was a better way to spend my time
Which is probably why I stopped giving FF games a solid try
2 full time jobs
Guild leadership was actually pretty profitable in early EQ
lusty grotto
Gz
tyy
i actually didnt 100% 6
but i def did the OG 7
master materia
ruby weapon, jesus christ
i dont know why i remember it taking so long
probably because you were afking 80% of the fight due to summon cinematics
deft hinge
When getting debuff on Larodar mythic, how many people does that tank usually need to get healed?
deft hinge
how many people is needed for a cycled switch would u say?
lusty grotto
with 2 in at the entire time it should be up before the next swap
deft hinge
kk tnx
waxen frigate
Tbh I just sit with the group
lusty grotto
usually there's no optimal setting
just stand still and have them move out at 10 stacks
waxen frigate
If your healers are havi mg problems which hopefully they shouldn’t
I just dip in and out as needed to keep myself alive
We don’t do any official coordination
lusty grotto
afaik the debuff isnt gone by player count
it just fades after 30s? you just heal the tank when youre standing in it because they cant get healed otherwise
waxen frigate
… is it not time based
Yeah. You just…
It’s just an aoe leech
That applies like a 5% stacking damage taken increaE
waxen frigate
with 2 in at the entire time it should be up before the next swap
So wtf does this mean
lusty grotto
yeah idk thats just how we do it
waxen frigate
What should be up
waxen frigate
Yeah. I guess it’s just phrased weird
lusty grotto
just due to time
waxen frigate
Gotcha
lusty grotto
we just keep 2 in at all times, and swap in/out
his question got me confused too ngl
waxen frigate
Ya that’s a lot of work
lusty grotto
true
plush tendon
we've always just yoloed it
waxen frigate
Like ur not gonna die to the dot
plush tendon
tank swap, people stack on tank in melee
waxen frigate
If you have at least 1 or 2 people
plush tendon
nuke boss
waxen frigate
Unless you fucked up and got smoked by the frontal itself
lusty grotto
bro
waxen frigate
In which case recovering is a priority
waxen frigate
Unless you fucked up and got smoked by the frontal itself
I would never troll my own r1 parse by doing this
And get r2 instead
lusty grotto
after lobbying for it for 3 weeks
no
i got bomb twice
2nd bomb there was a soak right beside me
"fuck it, my parse is already shit even though i got PI'd"
the frontal hit me
cause the tank thought it wouldnt reach me in africa
and i gotta be honest, that graphic is fucking deceiving so i believe him
waxen frigate
Ngl
lusty grotto
anyway blue parse ftl
waxen frigate
If a Dps dies to a frontal in raid
It is not my problem
Don’t stand in front of boss
median tulip
Not just raids.
How many times have I seen DPS die to frontals in DHT this season?
median tulip
DHT is pretty unique in having 3 out of 4 bosses with a frontal mechanic
waxen frigate
DHT is pretty unique in having 3 out of 4 bosses with a frontal mechanic
And then one with a million swirlies
lusty grotto
squeenix pulling all stops on marketting lol
warm plinth
I don't mind the swirlies on last boss if their hitbox wasn't the size of the Titanic
waxen frigate
I don’t mind swirlies if their hitbox matches their animation
median tulip
He's just a fucker for standing there hard casting
waxen frigate
Which means I hate every swirly in the game
lusty grotto
Which means I hate every swirly in the game
facts
median tulip
It's fine as some monkey brain DPS doesn't blow Lust on the pull
waxen frigate
Meh doesn’t matter to me anyway I couldn’t care less about keys this season
median tulip
It's also fun to watch Demon Hunters fuck up on every boss in that place
warm plinth
Meh doesn’t matter to me anyway I couldn’t care less about keys this season
That's why you're only 4034 io you fucking scrub
But yeah honestly I'm pretty over keys at this point too.
waxen frigate
That's why you're only 4034 io you fucking scrub
Ok good luck getting another free carry from me
warm plinth
tribal wharf
the other final fantasy games i did play i put hundreds of hours into, i returned after like 2 hours basdically now
i only speedran 7 sort of to spite that dude lol
uneven mason
So anyone who hasn't tried cardio games on VR, it's legit
uneven mason
No seriously https://youtu.be/s1F2WbJHuxE?si=WvqwCacLJGpPv73n
lusty tiger
That is sick
tribal wharf
No seriously https://youtu.be/s1F2WbJHuxE?si=WvqwCacLJGpPv73n
".... man.... i wanna go back to the crack zoo"
uneven mason
uneven mason
That is sick
Ikr, it was suggested to me because I'm always like trying to get back in shape but it's hella boring.
Slapped some 5lb cuffs on and play that for 30min, probably go through more range of motion than regular 90x
lusty tiger
P90x 👴
tribal wharf
Just gotta figure out how to get more resistance
lusty grotto
Ikr, it was suggested to me because I'm always like trying to get back in shape ...
remember ice is good for DOMS, heat is good for pre-workout stretch
heat first, ice later
opaque quest
The second i try a VR game i know everybody would just walk into my range of motion and catch these hands
warm plinth
Idk why but I cracked up at that
lusty grotto
it be like that sometimes
opaque quest
I always laugh at the "catch these hands" phrase. Thought i would try it
uneven mason
My poor German Shepherd learned to clear the fuck out when I put that thing on
lusty tiger
LOL
uneven mason
She likes to lay down next to me and I was doing some ninja legends and took a dive over the dog
opaque quest
smart doggo
lusty grotto
what a dogge
ive always wanted to get a german shep
i just cant justify puppy mills anymore though
uneven mason
She was a rescue from a byb
uneven mason
A litter of 6 gsd ended up at a rescue near me and I told my wife I was getting another dog (our pitty had passed in Jan 2023)
lusty grotto
dang
uneven mason
She's a talker though, I knew husky and some labrador would "talk" at you, but this one gives me a lecture when I get home after leaving her in the crate
opaque quest
Crate?
uneven mason
Cage?
uneven mason
She's crate trained,
Yeah, I'm renting and one thing I've learned is you don't leave a working breed lose when you're not around to supervise, especially a puppy
They get bored and couches are consumed
opaque quest
Let me get a dog i cant care for for 8 hours a day and put her in a cage
uneven mason
Let me get a dog i cant care for for 8 hours a day and put her in a cage
Oh god, never that long
opaque quest
Dunno normal work days are 8 hours no?
uneven mason
I wfh
opaque quest
ah fair
uneven mason
But I gotta do groceries and pickup the kid sometimes
opaque quest
Yea thats fine. I just thought your doggie spends half of her life in a fucking cage
uneven mason
No, if I wasn't wfh I wouldn't have gotten another dog
warm plinth
I mean, if she was in a shelter, she'd be spending 100% of her life in a fucking cage.
Instead of 1/3 of it
opaque quest
"Life with me is a little less bad so its fine"
uneven mason
My office
lusty tiger
My dog likes her cage but hates when we close it (even without the latch) she gives me the saddest look when it is closed. I’ll open it and then she’ll just stay there lol
warm plinth
Idk I've never crate trained a dog but the ones I've met actually like their cage and will go into it on their own even if they aren't made to
opaque quest
Kiki likes his box he arrived in too but i cant close it. Not because he will go crazy but because i will lol
uneven mason
Idk I've never crate trained a dog but the ones I've met actually like their cag...
That's how you crate train them, it's their "burrow"
warm plinth
Yeah
opaque quest
Ye gotta have a safe space
lusty tiger
opaque quest
With books so kitti doesnt get bored. Very nice
hazy bronze
uneven mason
The wife isn't happy about how much space the crate for her takes up though
lusty tiger
Cat warden
lusty tiger
With books so kitti doesnt get bored. Very nice
Just parents who don’t organize
warm plinth
You definitely need to have a big enough one
opaque quest
Guess i am his safe space
warm plinth
I have a friend w/ 3 dogs and only 2 cages and two of them go into one. I don't even think they have room to lie down if both are in there
lusty tiger
Cow print cat
opaque quest
yas
opaque quest
I have a friend w/ 3 dogs and only 2 cages and two of them go into one. I don't...
Kiki has become a real piece of shit. He trained me and i didnt notice. He started scratching on the bedframe when we sleep and only stops when we make space between us
lusty tiger
Velcro :3
opaque quest
wdym
lusty tiger
Velcro cat
waxen frigate
Jeree has become a real piece of shit. He trained me and i didnt notice. He started scratching on the bedframe when we sleep and only stops when I agree to be little spoon
uneven mason
I have a friend w/ 3 dogs and only 2 cages and two of them go into one. I don't...
Last time I had 3 dogs I owned the house so they didn't get crated at all
opaque quest
Jeree did you know that Nish wants to eather one mens toes while hes spooning with you?
Maybe some relationship counceling is in order
waxen frigate
waxen frigate
opaque quest
Nish and Jeree turning into Facebook boomers before our eyes
They were so young
But they are lost
lusty tiger
Nish opening himself up when it needs to happen fasho
opaque quest
Alzheimers setting in already
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
Who’s Maurice and Deborah
They’re your siblings sweetheart
lusty tiger
They’re your siblings sweetheart
opaque quest
Figured it out. Game broke my bigger palbox mod
pallid quiver
I've corrupted you
You absolutely have
It's uncomfortable in one of the fighting game servers I'm in, because everyon always throws out casual joke toxicity around, so instead of spreading positivity, I can only bring the bog
opaque quest
"I can only bring the bog"
tribal wharf
what kind of things did you guys note about egg trinket log
like any specific metrics like how often it broke vs fell off
waxen frigate
what kind of things did you guys note about egg trinket log
which egg
jagged gust
yogi single handedly keeping the egg meme alive
tribal wharf
preminition of faile dkery but we see
opaque quest
Arent there haste caps anyways. Pretty sure this tier with drums most people hit the GCD cap anways
remote python
shield block uptime, what average in dg?
pallid quiver
shield block uptime, what average in dg?
You should have 100% for anytime you're being swung at, though you'll naturally probably not block a few attacks due to getting swiped from the sides while gathering or something. You should comfortably be blocking more than 80% of hits coming your way, though.
pallid quiver
drums are very fine
Meanwhile, if you ask your average player, if you use drums you're a fucking thrower and an idiot and you should have brought a lust class you (insert insane rage spiel here)
remote python
You should have 100% for anytime you're being swung at, though you'll naturally ...
So in details, uptime is not necessarily important, as long as it is used at the right time (blocking at least 80% of attacks)
pallid quiver
It's best to check shield block usage via logs, since you can see how many hits you're actually blocking
Since it doesn't matter if you've got 100% uptime with 17 spare charges if you're getting hit in the back half the time
median tulip
Spiteful is so hilarious for padding
median tulip
I don't understand why they can't dodge them, NGL
waxen frigate
oh i just mean the inability to restealth
giga cucks rogues
in some builds/specs at least
idk how rogue plays rn
opaque quest
Its also pain for pet classes. If i dont manage my stupid ghoul it will just hit spites and fall back to far then despawn
blazing condor
idk how rogue plays rn
asssa relies on stealth between combat
had a premade who rerolled rogue and hed rage cus i chain pulled
opaque quest
All of the rogues doo
Outlaw has it better with audacity but keeping all the CDs up with the hand talent thing defo still hurts to not be able to stealth
median tulip
Yeah I've had Rogues rage about stealth
But my ideal is to never leave combat
So I stopped inviting Rogues
opaque quest
Eh outlaw is fine without stealth. Not ideal but not a big loss
And if you never drop combat zer loss
lusty tiger
urban portal
opaque quest
Outlaw got enough shadowdance uptime with restless blades
Or vanish
One of them is affected by rb
warm plinth
Yeah, as an outlaw enjoyer, restealthing is good but you have vanish up a ton so there's no reason to get your panties in a twist about it
opaque quest
Yeah, as an outlaw enjoyer, restealthing is good but you have vanish up a ton so...
Could i give your panties a twist?
🥵
warm plinth
opaque quest
Gotta keep socks on tho or my wife will say i cheated
warm plinth
I'm sorry what
opaque quest
I mean if i twist your panties one thing will lead to another
There is a reason im gonna get you blackout drunk
toxic pewter
im pugging heroic fyrakk as arms each week (normally tank) and just wild how bad these groups are.. the raid has been out for 6 months and its wipe after wipe wtf is going on here
I pugged fyrakk literally week 1... LOL
opaque quest
All the sweats stopped playing
median tulip
Not even that; there are just a lot more people looking to do Fyrakk (and they have curve) now; so getting good people in any random group becomes less likely
Almost every fresh HC run I have done in months has fallen apart at Nymue or Smolderon, for example
opaque quest
Oh yeah true. Curve got way cheaper to buy too
median tulip
Nymue can be terrible right now
Not helped by the fact that the people with the reason to still be clearing the raid are predominantly melee
violet ginkgo
Almost every fresh HC run I have done in months has fallen apart at Nymue or Smo...
Not fall apart in larodar? Usually ppl fall apart in larodar already before fall apart in nymue
pallid quiver
I don't get to see any of those because I just don't get invited since my ilvl's too low to clear
opaque quest
According to the raidleads your ilvl is to low to clear
Fixed it
People cleared hc with 450 im sure you got that
pallid quiver
No, I've definitely never cleared, I bought my aotc obvs on week 2 (Laro hard for DPS week 1)
not possible to clear heroic without 480 ilvl min
clearly
toxic pewter
yeah but the raid has been out now for.. half a year..
and apparently I am wiping on heroic fyrakk? in 2024? 6 months later? LOL
unreal
there were babies born when it came out that could play better than some of these individuals I have encountered
waxen frigate
one of the best healers i ever met was born after tbc came out
toxic pewter
damn
waxen frigate
or at least i think thats how it lined up
played with her in s3/s4 sl
she was 15 or 16 i think?
so... born 2006-2007? presumably?
jagged gust
Makes sense tho, those are prime gaming years
Your reaction time and hand eye coordination start to plummet in your 20s
opaque quest
None of us old boomers could beat a 15 year old
No chance
The skill gap would be closer in wow than other games
But damn those zoomers are indeed zoomers
lusty grotto
there's no inherent skill gap in ages
in fact
its very likely that unless touch controls are available, these kids would fucking lose
reaction times are different, but not enough to be significant
pirate software did a clip about this
jagged gust
Without some version of a shift mod you can easily fit 16 keybinds onto a controller
lusty grotto
where they wanted to set up a gaming place, and kids wouldn't touch KB+M, and much less controllers
because they are used to ipads
or rather the other way around, they wouldnt use controllers and much less KB+M
opaque quest
There wont be a skill gap knowledge wise but if youre as skilled as the 15 year old he is going to destroy you
Just because he is infinitely faster than you
lusty grotto
thats not really accurate
jagged gust
de nile is a river in egypt
opaque quest
It is 100% accurate thats why sports and esports teams always hire new younger players. Ofcouse there are wonders like faker and serral that keep their edge
lusty grotto
im not trying to deny age presents obstacles
opaque quest
But generally a kiddo will just be faster than we are
lusty grotto
sports are different
opaque quest
I mean esport is just sport
lusty grotto
physical stuff just is
opaque quest
Im not talking about us billos doing heroic
Im talking about the cutting edge players
lusty grotto
in games like wow there's not a notable difference
opaque quest
Like i said the gap would be closer in wow just because its a slower game