random I think
#protection
violet ginkgo
rocky bough
Is it possible to make a macro that casts pummel, but will cast storm bolt if pummel is on cooldown?
warm plinth
It was the tank in my 23 TotT last night. He had an absolutely massive 54.5% blocked hits.
and just a biiiiiit of rage waste
restive scroll
and just a biiiiiit of rage waste
To be fair, doing huge pack, i tend to also waste a lot of rage
violet ginkgo
btw for spellblock.. is it common to not use it at M+ or just for certain dungeon?
restive scroll
What kind of key levels/raid kinds are you doing?
blazing condor
btw for spellblock.. is it common to not use it at M+ or just for certain dungeo...
you play it p much every dungeon
restive scroll
btw for spellblock.. is it common to not use it at M+ or just for certain dungeo...
This season, basically all of them
blazing condor
there's always somewhere you benefit from it
restive scroll
Maybe not brh, that's about it
warm plinth
To be fair, doing huge pack, i tend to also waste a lot of rage
You shouldn't. Press IP moar
restive scroll
You shouldn't. Press IP moar
I caaannn't, already ranking 99-100% in healing in %keys
ionic fern
It was the tank in my 23 TotT last night. He had an absolutely massive 54.5% bl...
Huuuuuuuuuge. Need a couple more Block talents. 
median tulip
What kind of key levels/raid kinds are you doing?
mid-20s, completed HC, guild fell apart doing M Raid
warm plinth
Like this is Nome's wasted rage. This is what it should look like.
opal forum
where do you look at those logs?
warm plinth
lusty grotto
ya
warm plinth
What are you trying to find
warm plinth
Do you know how to log/access your own logs?
opal forum
i used to a few years ago, i didnt logged anything yet but i can see that some of my keys are logged (probly a pug)
opal forum
and i would like to see the stats on those
restive scroll
mid-20s, completed HC, guild fell apart doing M Raid
Yeah, i'm also bored doing hc and 20
Doesn't mean much
opal forum
can i not look into the already logged keys?
jagged pier
if u have some
opal forum
looks like i do
warm plinth
Blocked hits % is
Make sure your character is selected
Click Damage Taken
Hover over the number in the Hits column next to the Melee row
Rage waste is
Make sure your character is selected
Click Resources
Change Hit Points drop down to Rage
restive scroll
Like this is Nome's wasted rage. This is what it should look like.
You're completely right, I was looking at a wrong thing !
warm plinth
If you want to see hits to your back, go to Damage Taken and before you check blocked hits, click the Shield Block icon above the table
That'll tell you your blocked hits % with shield block active. Any hits you didn't block means you got hit in the back
opal forum
thank you
lusty tiger
Like this is Nome's wasted rage. This is what it should look like.
The man is FURIOUS
warm plinth
Nome has lightning fingers
warm plinth
Ngl I think the biggest problem for intermediate wars is a badly positioned ip key
At least in terms of wasted range
jagged pier
yer i had to change mine in BFA
warm plinth
Rage
warm plinth
Ooof
jagged pier
lusty tiger
warm plinth
warm plinth
lusty tiger
jagged pier
warm plinth
No nitro?
jagged pier
im not made of money
warm plinth
It's $2 a month
jagged pier
u think i have that to spare in this UK economy
warm plinth
jagged pier
lusty tiger
💶
tribal wharf
i with jakey on this one
we arent nomerature
gaurdian and lore master of german gyms and excesize regimens
able to afford rent, food AND video games
lusty tiger
German gyms?
lusty tiger
Those are rather different
tribal wharf
i think he had both of those jobs, im not sure
lusty tiger
hazy bronze
waxen frigate
u think i have that to spare in this UK economy
Nitro is higher priority than food
waxen frigate
honestly nowadays its just spam your IP key
Alt-6 
jagged pier
Alt-6 <:xeos:945501697847992341>
jagged pier
yep first keybind i made back in day when i started to not be a clicker
start with one button keep moving it up
lusty grotto
ya mine has been that way since late vanilla
jagged pier
also why my keybinds are horrendous
and my 1 key is wasted because thats taunt
and has to be taunt
lusty grotto
my taunt is 2
my charge had been 1 until BFA
where i swapped all movement/gap closers to G on all characters
lusty grotto
so intervene went to 1, then SC this exp
kind of scuffed since not often pressed, but i find that 1 is not really spammy anyway
now, R
that is a spammy key
5 too
median tulip
My taunt is on my mouse, because all my mouseover binds have to be on my mouse
jagged pier
because its quick and easy
lusty grotto
yea its a good key
anything around 3 and 5, including E, R, and T is very easy to press
maybe 2 as well
median tulip
Q is shockwave. E is Shield Slam, R is TClap, T is Demo Shout
G and H are Shield Block and Ignore Pain, respectively
opal forum
ive always played by pressing forward with E
and W R for sides
is that crazy
better hand positionning
am i the only one?
waxen frigate
my taunt is 2
Shift-7
median tulip
Are your fingers all the same length?!
opal forum
e forward
w left
r right
d backped
median tulip
ESDF I can respect. But WR for movement is bad and wrong.
opal forum
i mean
its just muscle memory
thats how ive played for ever
it feels the best for me
median tulip
My hand is cramping just thinking about it
waxen frigate
1 SS, 2 Revenge, 3 charge, 4 TRoar, 5 TC, 6 nothing, 7 potion/on use, 8 rav, 9 heroic throw, 0 uhh nothing on prot?, -/11 avatar, =/12 I think also nothing on prot
opal forum
how do you even get to 9
waxen frigate
Mmo mouse
median tulip
opal forum
ok well thats different
waxen frigate
Oh wait 6 is shield charge now
opal forum
the way you said it sounds like ur actually use the keyboard one ahah
median tulip
I usually Shield Charge off the mouse button (which is a mouseover macro) rather than off 2
waxen frigate
Then for other relevant stuff is shift-1 IV, shift-= rally, alt-1 sb, alt-4 kick, alt-5 reflect, alt-6 IP, alt-8 shockwave, alt-= wall
Execute shift-6
median tulip
The 3 by 4 block at the right is the mouse buttons; the vertical 5 at the left there is the G keys on my G910
median tulip
Some of those binds are legacy; I don't actually have Berserker Rage talented, I've just never got around to removing it
median tulip
on ur mouse
They are Mouseovers (except the stance dance macro, obvs)
waxen frigate
I think i have a pic of my brew binds
opal forum
its hard for me to press those button accuratly with my thumbs
like
i litteraly cant use them
opal forum
i had a razer naga and now a g600
cant use that part of the mouse
i dont know what im pressing
i have no idea wich button is the right one
median tulip
The main thing is I need all those extra buttons because my left hand is kinda fucked up and I can't use modifier keys in a fight
lusty grotto
no-mmo mice master race
median tulip
It's just muscle memory
violet ginkgo
i had a razer naga and now a g600
Can you give a review on both?
opal forum
had mmo mouses since im a kid and still cant ahah
i had razer naga back in the days in wotlk and its been like 2/3 years i have the g600 and i have a big hand and the logitech feels better
median tulip
I've never had a Naga, but the G600 is sized really well for my hand
opal forum
same for the side buttons and the extra click on the full right of the mouse
the extra click is so good
median tulip
Yeah that G Shift is nice
opal forum
its always used for core ability
that needs reactivity
i put my spell reflect on it
median tulip
Oh I actually bind it to make a whole new set of 12 available. I have the pings macro'd to the G-Shifted keys
opal forum
yeah the g set you said
i used it like a regular keybind
the spell reflect on it feels so so good
tribal wharf
bear (yogi) binds for pwar
(the top mini bar is more of a reminder of whats off GCD, i would want to put all those on 1 bar)
lusty grotto
i had mad copium today
but no dice
i hate this game
im calling it ima get rageheart or augury the week before fated season hits
molten pollen
hello quick question for prot war, does thunderlord work on Disrupting shout, doesnt seem like it
crystal mauve
bear (yogi) binds for pwar
I would move heroic throw away from R, R is too good to be used on something you use once in a while to tag a pack of mobs
jagged pier
hello quick question for prot war, does thunderlord work on Disrupting shout, do...
no it works on demo shout
and only demo shout
molten pollen
oki thank you
lusty grotto
hello quick question for prot war, does thunderlord work on Disrupting shout, do...
the tooltip is your friend
molten pollen
why do people not use Disrupting shout btw?
lusty grotto
some dont need it cause they have the necessary stops on their teams
molten pollen
oki
crystal mauve
why do people not use Disrupting shout btw?
It’s a good button that helps either take aggro quickly on bigger pulls and or the air kick can help a lot as well
lusty grotto
it really depends on your comp
molten pollen
oki thank you ^^
crystal mauve
When it’s good, it’s suuuuper good, when you don’t need it, you didn’t sacrifice much for it so it’s ok
lusty grotto
what were the stats on catalyst belt?
i forget
ah big crit little haste
fuck i already have a myth phlegethic
goddamn my vault
warm plinth
You sacrifice a decent amount for disrupting shout 🤔
strong forum
you sacrifice alot for disrupting shout ye
lusty grotto
3 sockets YAY
lusty grotto
tribal wharf
hmmm more hp you say....
patent osprey
Character fully done and geared
dusky canopy
!!
tribal wharf
why do i even bother keying for vault lmao
dusky canopy
POG
tribal wharf
im probably gunna take one of those
tribal wharf
uhhhhh which egg upsets protection more, but i wont get anned from the channel
waxen frigate
The stamina one
lusty grotto
close discord
restive scroll
Character fully done and geared
Beautiful, gratz!
waxen frigate
i found comments
Wowhead comments
lusty grotto
ima just run normal fyraak and cry myself until raid
warm plinth
I don't even remember what that trinket does
tribal wharf
wowhead commentors suggest it goes off every 15 seconds
they posted a link to a log that i can see but i cant make out details
they claim it did 20 m healing in a 20 key and its secretly pog for high keys
tribal wharf
no rally
tribal wharf
By violintides (2,950 – 9·14) on 2023/11/27 (Patch 10.2.0)
Does anyone know the PPM for this? Is there an Internal cooldown that isn't listed somewhere? Or is it mob-specific? It feels like, since I just got one in the new M+ season, that it's proc'ing constantly. It seems like it's approximately a 15s internal cooldown, based on this in my logs from this M+
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/7vBkNArZFXHKtM6L#fight=last&type=auras&source=2&ability=429268&start=7456866&end=7516270
However, healing for 10million over the course of a 20? Feels like a hidden pog trinket for high key tanks.
Last edited by violintides on 2023/11/27 (Patch 10.2.0)
10 m healing for a 20, im sorry, probably all over healing
lusty grotto
this log doesnt even have data
lmaoooo
i gotta say well played to that person cause thats a great bait
tribal wharf
it says the spiders come in and melee fro about 5-10k dmg and can crit
lusty grotto
yeah and i can say im a brain surgeon in here
its bullshit
open the log
it has nothing
might as well put a rickroll in there
lusty grotto
classic wowhead commentator, yea
tribal wharf
its probably amazing or at least okay on bdk or bear or some other tank you dont always sit at 99% hp
warm plinth
He's not even wearing the trinket in the log he posted lol
He's wearing stonescales and splinter
tribal wharf
is this 2000 iq yogi vault bait
pre placed months in advance
for me to fall in to trap
lusty grotto
seems like it
tribal wharf
not l ike nighmare shell is any better
and i have a 489 weapon but this one is terribl stats
tribal wharf
eggs are expensive in 2024
lusty grotto
and pretty soon ill have to get the gold bags
tribal wharf
i have been given a gift
warm plinth
I can't even find a log with that trinket being used lol
lusty grotto
still socket
tribal wharf
nah, egg
lusty grotto
well, chat, i tried
i knew it wasnt gonna work
but i tried
1 day yogi will listen to us
but today is not that day
warm plinth
lusty grotto
xD
tribal wharf
if unhatched was leech too that would be amazing
tribal wharf
non egg haver
lusty grotto
rather have the gold bag tbh
brittle sandal
Hello! Im new to tanking, wanted to ask what is the "easiest" tank to learn? Druid i know but feels dull, how is warrior? Is it rather easy to learn? How do I play it? Not full story but guidelines maybe
brittle sandal
icy veins should have a guide on it
Okay
lusty grotto
jesus christ
warm plinth
probably better than egg shell right lol
Or maybe even counterweight idk
My trinkets are ass
TO THE ROBOT
tribal wharf
i thinhk im just gunna take the leech egg hate egg
lusty grotto
🤷
ive said socket like 3 times now but it is what it is
you do you, yogi, you do you
warm plinth
Spores > egg shell
tribal wharf
on use
warm plinth
1300 dps better on ST 
waxen frigate
Whoa that’s crazy @jagged pier
jagged pier
Whoa that’s crazy <@179993058186625025>
jagged pier
Surely
blazing condor
One of those movies
warm plinth
airplane is such a classic
Airplane
lusty grotto
k
tribal wharf
could reach 1.6 million hp if i had higher ilv peices
waxen frigate
could reach 1.6 million hp if i had higher ilv peices
Did you swap to stam gems?
lusty grotto
nish never change
vestal moat
colossus warrior talents up
lusty grotto
its time @waxen frigate
waxen frigate
Time to what
lusty grotto
to confirm or deny the leak
waxen frigate
Yeah it was in fact fake
vestal moat
Nothings really jumping out at me, the activatable ability sort of reminds me of the Neltharion legendary artifact ability from legion.
tribal wharf
do
lusty grotto
tf is with their fixation on shockwave
lusty grotto
but thank god i read that top left
tribal wharf
god damnit blizzard
tribal wharf
not out in timbuktoo talnets
vestal moat
i do like the shockwave knockup as a bit more utility in m+. but tnohing earthaterring. just seems to be a lot of stat increases. no playstyle change
waxen frigate
Literally all of these are lame as fuck lol
lusty grotto
the shockwave move is pretty decent
waxen frigate
The rogue one is awful
lusty grotto
but its not even
waxen frigate
For outlaw at least
vestal moat
i hope the shockwave thing is a knockup instead of stun, not both. dont want stun DR
tribal wharf
rogue is always omegalul until it gets kings wft warrior shout and other buffs and then is allowed to activate snd and just attack boss all game
then its 10 billion dps
tribal wharf
where do i go to see it
lusty grotto
wowhead
or mmo-c idk
but yeah im with Nish
this is super mid
passive increases, super unremarkable
median tulip
Developer’s Note: The Warrior tree will be updated in the War Within to make the Shockwave talent more easily accessible via class talents.
tribal wharf
tribal wharf
how about buff to defensive stance within this tree
if its not already i havent fully read it
lusty grotto
and Hammer of Light sounds pretty great
knotty pewter
i hope the shockwave thing is a knockup instead of stun, not both. dont want stu...
yeah i think thats the point of it which is really nice. team i run with this season has major stun dr problems in keys. this will help a lot
lusty grotto
15% SS damage sounds kinda poggers at least
median tulip
10% to increase to Critical Blocks is a bit... Ehh.
Not bad forwhen Spell Block is up tho
vestal moat
THe wording reads "shockwave ALSO knocks" instead of "shockwave knocks up INSTEAD" which is what is making me nervous
lusty grotto
yeah pretty much
median tulip
Knockup is on a different DR to stun, right?
strong forum
yes
strong forum
blizz toolitps
lusty grotto
it could be like warbringer
plush tendon
but knocking and stunning would be weird
kind glen
You get to be 5% bigger tho, so its best for sure
lusty grotto
well its a double stop so
median tulip
You get to be 5% bigger tho, so its best for sure
Yeah, imma be a BIG girl with that
kind glen
Mountain Thane who? yeah Colossi unite!
plush tendon
yea, Colossus seems cooler to me
knotty pewter
unstoppable force on tree boss dht. that would be somethin
lusty grotto
its def growing on me
i think
there was way too much expectation on utility, when they explicitly said these hero talents werent gonna be total game changers
strong forum
will see
so far i like colossus
mountain thane i half forgot what it did
but it was more ST oriented i think
and colossus is more aoe oriented
strong forum
a really weak one
vestal moat
super weak
strong forum
yea
lusty grotto
yea
waxen frigate
Mountain thane looked giga
Colossus looks less giga
But that’s initial numbers, not meaningful
vestal moat
colossus all the way for prot for me as things stand at least in keys
plush tendon
Mountain Thane was a lot of Thunderclap
and changing damage to storm/lightning damage
lusty grotto
right right
plush tendon
this seems to have more emphasis on SS and Revenge and getting these big Demolishes
torn gulch
Developer’s Note: The Warrior tree will be updated in the War Within to make the Shockwave talent more easily accessible via class talents.
We wanted to call this out as the Colossus tree interacts with Shockwave in a few places.
At last
lusty grotto
yes, we know
lusty grotto
right
median tulip
Yeah that it itself, regardless of which hero tree we take, is a huge buff for M+
jagged pier
Depends where they put it tbh
median tulip
Hopefully that implement that for S4
jagged pier
And how the change the tree
torn gulch
Hopefully that implement that for S4
most likely not happening
season 4 is like 1 dev and 1 intern
or 2 interns
plush tendon
at least they are differnet
torn gulch
kekw
plush tendon
can play like a storm lord warrior with Mountain Thane
median tulip
Hush, let me huff this hopium
kind glen
Bring back necro banner
lusty grotto
plush tendon
or a big hitter colossus dude
median tulip
Bring back necro banner
Yes
plush tendon
naw man, I want 
kind glen
naw man, I want <:Aftershock:742631092326236282>
Okay I'll take one or the other for sure lol
I was NF in SL, so I miss it
plush tendon
but I already think the bottom of the warrior tree shouldve been Droar/Spear/AA/Banner
choose 2/4
karmic plinth
i think condemn could have been cool 
kind glen
got a nice amount of hp now
nice
karmic plinth
feel like demolish should have just been an upgrade to shield charge / colossus smash or something not really in the mood for another keybind
pallid quiver
Me at first: "Well, I really do like the aesthetic and thematic feel of Mountain Thane more, bu-"
size increased you say
pallid quiver
i think colossus may be the best hero talent tree
pallid quiver
time to fit through even LESS doors
plush tendon
but I think they are tying visuals and stuff to each hero tree
like Mountain Thane abilities turn blue/lightning affects
knotty pewter
there should be a coordinated effort to buff that to 10% increased size
plush tendon
Size increase should scale with our crit chance
jagged pier
All fun and games till u get stuck in a door
waxen frigate
All fun and games till u get stuck in a door
Exterior like fish eggs
tribal wharf
now u see
chrome falcon
colossus looks pretty great
tribal wharf
thats why u buy the murloc toy
lusty grotto
just spit on the door
chrome falcon
shockwave stonks big
tribal wharf
then ur always as big as a gnome even with size
which a gnome cant get stuck in any doors
has the easiest time going through any doors
lusty grotto
based on what they said
lusty grotto
it wont be lower than it already is, at least
toxic pewter
I think colossus seems cooler than thane
pallid quiver
All fun and games till u get stuck in a door
As a cow,
this happens already, especially when you're mounted in areas with low ceilings/hanging parts (that one SL nature dungeon with the maze, right at the very start comes to mind)
karmic plinth
Im actually curious where shockwave ends up on the talent tree
my guess (with no basis) is they put it where storm bolt is now, put storm bolt where pain and gain was and put pain and gain on a choice node with second wind
toxic pewter
hows life treating you
thanks for asking.. doing ok, took my moms dog in so I have had a dog keeping me busy
also been pvping only
arms warr solo shuffle
lusty grotto
my guess (with no basis) is they put it where storm bolt is now, put storm bolt ...
that would be weird having pain and again as a capstone
karmic plinth
no theyd put a different capstone there
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
well thats a change that brings other changes
toxic pewter
i will take it
lusty grotto
so its actually significant
toxic pewter
yeah it is
karmic plinth
id like to see aftershock in shockwaves place but that might be a bit TOO much control so maybe something boring like condemn would take its place
lusty grotto
unless they rebuff execute
lusty grotto
no thanks to condemn
toxic pewter
just during the channel
lusty grotto
and id rather have banner than AF
id rather have banner than 10 AFs
maybe 20
maybe even 100 AFs
we will see what happens
kind glen
hear me out, give us a BL
lusty grotto
sure
karmic plinth
i wouldnt be surprised if they trolled us and gave us banner but no glory
looking at elysian might id not be surprised if we had a nerfed version of it too
lusty grotto
hmmm
kind glen
From an ability aspect I'd like to use spear more, but TR is pretty awesome
lusty grotto
i mean you right a nerfed glory would def feel bad
kind glen
I think no glory would make it another dead talent
karmic plinth
i reckon theyd go for the rage cost for extension
lusty grotto
or cap it
karmic plinth
youd hope theyd actually just go for parity with SL rage economy
lusty grotto
idk, it wouldnt make sense to have glory in while being nerfed tbh
its perfect synergy
kind glen
I mean, I understand not wanting it up an entire dungeon, I think that was a bit much. but a useful "go go team" button would be fun thematically
lusty grotto
not sure why they wouldnt want that
karmic plinth
i wouldnt be surprised if they copied the tyrs deliverance model
1.5m CD for 70s uptime
seeing as they changed roar and spear to be 1.5m too
lusty grotto
only reason to baby nerf it (which will end up killing it anyway) that occurs to me is to make it easier for less skilled people or some shit
karmic plinth
we're porbably overdue a talent tree overhaul anyway
lusty grotto
well moving shockwave in itself is a mini overhaul
karmic plinth
while theyre there they might go the whole way
plush tendon
spear needs some love
its actually a really fun ability
more fun then DRoar
DRoar boring as poop
karmic plinth
i feel like spear should have been a 45s cd
plush tendon
Spear is siq
and the tether part, although troll sometimes, can be super good in certain situations
kind glen
The visual update too is awesome imo lol
plush tendon
DRoar is basically pressing a 1 min CD TClap in my eyes
uneven mason
You're not wrong
maiden ravine
being 5% bigger is bis
kind glen
being 5% bigger is bis
100%
maiden ravine
my gnome will look so ferocious
vestal moat
keep us updated, that leech oughta be huge
kind glen
I play Tauren, so I'm stoked to get even more stuck
granite anvil
I kinda like the new ability and possible cheeses to mechanics, but then I remember that the other tree has magic intervene 😦
I wish that would have been a normal talent and not part of hero talents
kind glen
Someone with a cool colored name said the intervene kinda meh
ionic fern
With current tuning it's kinda meh, jeah.
Think it was "3x your armor".
I generally liked the whole thunder focused theme of MT.
But this tree is also looking promising and potentially more interesting gameplay wise due to a new ability.
maiden ravine
also, is the 15% more IP gonna be additive or multiplicative?
median tulip
being 5% bigger is bis
As long as it stacks with Avatar correctly
maiden ravine
this is the avatar tree no?
kind glen
I was hoping additive. That would put it to 65%, correct?
maiden ravine
sorta
lusty grotto
doubtful
there's no way its gonna be additive
we dont really need any more defensiveness
granite anvil
I read it as a higher amount in total
median tulip
I don't think more IP is a particularly enticing talent TBQH
lusty grotto
☝️
kind glen
the other one sounded worse
maiden ravine
65% IP would be awesome
maiden ravine
57.5% would be fine too though
lusty grotto
kinda weird that you would focus on that instead of the rest tbh
kind glen
need to know proc rate
median tulip
Yeah, and the ICD
kind glen
because if it procs while full hp then its useless
kind glen
Which is why i dont care about it lol
lusty grotto
blizzard logic
kind glen
Maybe something like the auto Frenzied regen but at a high HP amount would make it better to me
plush tendon
what I gotta figure out is how big Ill be when I press avatar and stoneform together with 5% extra size
compact palm
Is the Shockwave knock low key the best part of this tree
lusty grotto
what I gotta figure out is how big Ill be when I press avatar and stoneform toge...
asking the important questions
median tulip
Increased Critical Block is... ok, I guess, but mostly for Spell Block. It's not going to make me stack Mastery.
lusty grotto
jesus fuck
median tulip
20% extra Bleed damage is nice
knotty pewter
Is the Shockwave knock low key the best part of this tree
on demand stun and movement immune for prot has lot of potential
grand veldt
compact palm
True just thinking having a cc that doesn't Dr would be nice
median tulip
Wonder how long the channel on Demolish is
knotty pewter
just depends on encounter/dungeon design
compact palm
Would be better if it acts like Aug knock ancld groups them
kind glen
Thats the benefit of knock up, yeah? the no DR interaction?
knotty pewter
oh the knock is really good too. stun dr is bitch
lusty grotto
it'll still contribute to stun dr
theres nothing in that tooltip that says otherwise
median tulip
Thats the benefit of knock up, yeah? the no DR interaction?
Some people have pointed out is says it "also" knocks up. So it'll still DR everyone else's stuns
knotty pewter
you get a knock
kind glen
I was more talking about Knock up as an affect
compact palm
Yea the stun portion but u will still knock them
lusty grotto
i mentioned we will see if its like warbringer but even warbringer's tooltip didnt say anything concerning DRs
the knock happens in tandem
so while
knotty pewter
thats fine
kind glen
I mean it's not like you lead with SW anyway
lusty grotto
so ideally you want to use it dead last in a dr chain
knotty pewter
and the knock works
toxic pewter
What’s the point of knocking up and stunning
compact palm
More of a if I use this late in pull its still gunna stop thigs kinda deal
knotty pewter
thats what im talking about
lusty grotto
not a lot of people think about DRs when sending it
so that's a problem
maybe not for you and me
because we're tracking them
and we know when we would use them
knotty pewter
yeah, im just thinking about my gameplay
its made even worse with all the other stuff that randomly stuns
lusty grotto
keep in mind this is also available to arms
knotty pewter
like shield charge and demo kick
compact palm
Most groups don't have a bunch of aoe stuns anyway anymore
median tulip
keep in mind this is also available to arms
I looked over in the Arms channel. They are like "what if we don't use the core ability and just keep the 20% extra bleed all the time?"
knotty pewter
it is less common in the more meta comps
lusty grotto
and one of them they will absolutely fucking send cause its meta
literally their dps cd
kind glen
I looked over in the Arms channel. They are like "what if we don't use the core ...
I was kinda interested in that too lo
but I think the damage will outweigh the bleed damage, especially since it looks like it stacks quickly
compact palm
Yea but havoc is a outlier there not the general
lusty grotto
so no, HDH is not an outlier
compact palm
I'm aware
knotty pewter
aoe stuns arennt that common in the meta comps
kind glen
neither are we
my feelies
knotty pewter
i feel like youre just eager to argue lol
median tulip
TBH I'm mostly used to watching piss-poor Havoc players kill themselves
wild hemlock
so whats the verdict, boys
kind glen
For me, it's the knock up
median tulip
so whats the verdict, boys
5% bigger = BiS
lusty grotto
median tulip
@tribal wharf
lusty grotto
youre not yogi sorry
urban bane
5% larger
maiden fern
YES!
tribal wharf
plush tendon
though I do wonder how long the Demolish channel is
tribal wharf
out of 22 minutes
wild hemlock
yogi is that u
lusty grotto
wasnt that account slated for deletion yogi?
median tulip
though I do wonder how long the Demolish channel is
How long and how much base damage is a critical question lol
tribal wharf
for time up, i didnt check how much it healed or dmg it did
wild hemlock
i miss u do u remember me
plush tendon
How long and how much base damage is a critical question lol
and also whether we get bigger if we channel it
like another 10% size would be reasonable
kind glen
^
tribal wharf
but then i didnt
lusty grotto
why isnt yogi deleted
the account
didnt you said it was slated for deletion?
this is the important question
anyway, a friend was tagging you and you didnt say hi back
sick sentinel
Deathray is yogi?
sick sentinel
Yogi is yogi
lusty grotto
its a good name
tribal wharf
deathray has always been my callsign
sick sentinel
Deathray is a DH name
lusty grotto
nah it stinks of edgelord
sick sentinel
Deathray deffo a DH name
tribal wharf
this, something a bit like this
i had to come up with a name couldnt think of anything better
i was like, 15-18 at the time dont shame me
sick sentinel
this, something a bit like this
This is now yogi
lusty grotto
good shit yogi
sick sentinel
Deathray is a beam = eyebeam
tribal wharf
everyone gangster until they see the obelisk of light poewrin up
waxen frigate
also this deathray, very very very very storng deathray
Wouldn’t any death ray be very very strong
If death is part of it
How can you be more death
kind glen
depends on what amount of death it deals
tribal wharf
that friggin structer is like, INSTANT death
sick sentinel
tribal wharf
instantantly vaporized human body
lusty grotto
what about double instant death?
tribal wharf
like, 1 frame in a video game
waxen frigate
kind glen
frame perfect death
tribal wharf
so i can speak everyones language 100- 0
waxen frigate
Yogi what do you think of this heavy whipping cream bottle
lusty grotto
ghosted nish
wild sentinel
do prot warriors stay in defense stance or do they juggle between
waxen frigate
ghosted nish
Just like my ex
tribal wharf
i dunno how i feel about that sorry
lusty grotto
would you say
lusty grotto
its a very cozy but stylish whipping cream bottle?
waxen frigate
its a very cozy but stylish whipping cream bottle?
He drives
lusty grotto
would that be accurate to you yogi?
tribal wharf
i dont use heavy cream sorry
lusty grotto
ah
tribal wharf
not a coffee perseon
lusty grotto
understandable
maiden ravine
I'm kinda shocked stances haven't been pruned again yet
they've been rather minor all things considered
waxen frigate
I'm kinda shocked stances haven't been pruned again yet
Considering they’ve been back for 1 xpac?
tribal wharf
i dont understand why they didnt add fury stance for dps specs
toxic pewter
did somebody say stances
waxen frigate
It’s just a nice defensive
lusty grotto
i dont understand why they didnt add fury stance for dps specs
they did
kind glen
They keep trying to make dstance more enticing
maiden ravine
fury has fury stance haha
lusty grotto
berserking stance is part of the fury kit
maiden ravine
I really hope the colossus ability looks amazing
lusty grotto
well, they did too on the DF ptr, but there was no real reason to have a talent point into both
kind glen
I really hope the colossus ability looks amazing
I hope its just me punching things
lusty grotto
an obligatory talent point mind you
zinc iris
tribal wharf
defensive stance could be additional 10-30% protection agianst damage over time ticks
lusty karma
Thoughts on Colossus? Seems like a reskinned/renamed Legion artifact power (was also a channel) with more usefulness baked in. I kinda like the tree but some things have me whelmed, wonder if the play will be not to use Demolish (unless it hits insanely hard) to keep up buff instead for 20% bleed damage
wild hemlock
holy fuck do i miss necro banner
lusty karma
The healing of Second Wind doesn't seem bad, 12% health over 2s, could be OP
lusty grotto
Thoughts on Colossus? Seems like a reskinned/renamed Legion artifact power (was ...
we likes it
wild hemlock
s4 prot warrior was so fun lol
sick sentinel
I miss night fae Fury Warrior
lusty grotto
nome and mwahi will pin shit shortly im sure
sick sentinel
Shadowlands was goated expansion
wild hemlock
i ran NF prot for awhile s3 lol
sick sentinel
SL > DF
wild hemlock
warriors were down bad lol
waxen frigate
warriors were down bad lol
They weren’t
warm plinth
Colossus looks fun
tribal wharf
i might get ahead on war resources this expansion for once
waxen frigate
And if not played well then yeah it sucked
tribal wharf
only 43.3k to get everything i c an with them, thats a ton of wq though
sick sentinel
Pwar is and always will be the best tank in the game it just needs some love from Blizztard
warm plinth
What love
wild hemlock
They weren’t
we got a bandaid lego for the expac and they called it good lol
lusty grotto
dunno ghash
wild hemlock
how werent we down bad
lusty grotto
guy said SL was a goated expansion, what do you expect
waxen frigate
we got a bandaid lego for the expac and they called it good lol
What
sick sentinel
waxen frigate
?
lusty grotto
banner play was pretty great though ngl, we all agree here
waxen frigate
How does that change what I said
Define “down bad”
Pwarr was definitely not weak
sick sentinel
I won't lie, I preffered SL to DF expansion wise but gameplay wise ofc DF is better, Dragons are just too cuddly and nicey nice
wild hemlock
we were by far worst tank lol
warm plinth
I don't even remember the last time pwar was bad
waxen frigate
we were by far worst tank lol
If you sucked yeah
lusty grotto
it doesnt matter if dragons are cuddly, nothing is worse than dumpster-fire-lands
wild hemlock
If you sucked yeah
ur cringe lol
tribal wharf
the problem with shadowlands was it just wasnt done correctly
warm plinth
I enjoyed shadowlands myself. I think the dungeon pool was better than dragonflight's
tribal wharf
everything weas speerated and weird and different
waxen frigate
I enjoyed shadowlands myself. I think the dungeon pool was better than dragonfl...
Anything is better than getting recycled dungeons that suck every season
lusty grotto
☝️
sick sentinel
Shadowlands covenants and such made it bad, But genereally, the dungeons were better and I would even say the raids were better imo
waxen frigate
Go back to doing the same dungeons with changing affixes
warm plinth
Well I meant the actual expansion dungeons
waxen frigate
Maybe sprinkle in some change
sick sentinel
Atleast Nathria was goated
waxen frigate
Nathria ruled
lusty grotto
raids were decent, and there's nothing that beats CN
waxen frigate
But I also liked VotI
tribal wharf
you look at bastian or night fae land and its good in a vaccum
warm plinth
DF dungeons are mostly bad
tribal wharf
but it doesnt fit the rest of the ghame
lusty grotto
DF dungeons are mostly bad
only HoI and Uldaman
waxen frigate
Brackenhide and AA are good. RLP is pretty good.
sick sentinel
Nathria > SoD > DF raids > Sepulcher
lusty grotto
the rest of DF dungeons are great
waxen frigate
the rest of DF dungeons are great
Nokhud…
sick sentinel
Fuck nokhud
warm plinth
HoI is the 2nd worst M+ dungeon they've ever made
warm plinth
Lol
waxen frigate
nish youve been around
Bro I’m gonna be real with you every single person in this channel besides Jakey and Nome are identical to me
And yogi
lusty grotto
okay his opinions are now invalid for the rest of this discussion
warm plinth
Now that is 100% an unpopular opinion
tribal wharf
will be be going under the water as well as under the earth in expansion?
wild hemlock
Bro I’m gonna be real with you every single person in this channel besides Jakey...
can u quit being cringe please
tribal wharf
like, we dig so far in we find water and aliens basically
sick sentinel
okay his opinions are now invalid for the rest of this discussion
So the opinion of Nokhud being a trash dg cause of the dragonflying bug or people being too stupid to fly so they get grounded then wait for energy to fly again
lusty grotto
what
warm plinth
Dragonriding bug?
tribal wharf
the disconnect
wild hemlock
nish is worked up lol
sick sentinel
When you just fly straight into nowhere and DC
tribal wharf
im sure of it
sick sentinel
That shit has bricked so many of my nokhuds
warm plinth
I never had that happen. That's unfortunate.
lusty grotto
tf?
tribal wharf
cuz i randomly get the dc flying bug too and its like whatever but its annoying
waxen frigate
can u quit being cringe please
lusty grotto
ive never had that happen either
sick sentinel
I've had it happen at least 10 times
tribal wharf
you are just flying and then you arent cuz you get logged out
warm plinth
My main issue with it was that you had no real choices when it came to trash
tribal wharf
and then u log back in and its fine, thats all is too it
lusty grotto
thats not what hes talking about yogi
sick sentinel
But I had more people who just can't fly properly so we are 3-4 men on trash before bosses
warm plinth
Linear dungeons are a thing and are fine from time to time but don't make this huge sprawling dungeon and then make us kill specific shit
tribal wharf
oh? hes talking about dragon fling mount dungeon aint he
sick sentinel
That's why I hate dragonriding, Pre season 1 it sucked ass, But now it's okay
lusty grotto
otherwise tindral wouldn't be beaten in any difficulty
sick sentinel
oh? hes talking about dragon fling mount dungeon aint he
Nokhud yes
lusty grotto
i never had any problems with people flying in nokhud
waxen frigate
people know how to fly
Brother
lusty grotto
ever
waxen frigate
Did you watch RWF
There are people who absolutely can’t do Dragonriding to save their lives
sick sentinel
i never had any problems with people flying in nokhud
Well that is your luck cause I've had many from before even season 1 started up until i got banned season 1 2nd week
tribal wharf
hot take
lusty grotto
anyway nish this guy is saying HE BRICKED keys because people couldnt fly
sick sentinel
In LFR cause I called a mage a dumbass for triggering the frog about 20 times and people asked dathea tactics to which i wrote " Kill boss, Kill adds" then guess what 2 week suspension
tribal wharf
i think whoever made the dragon flying hard mode stuff designed it for a controller probably
sick sentinel
I had keys bricked cause of the flying bug and people just flying stupidly
That's just why I hate nokhud
tribal wharf
like those races
warm plinth
I'm the luckiest player alive
sick sentinel
sure you got banned for calling a mage names
I said dumbass and Kill boss kill adds, That was literally why I was banned
lusty grotto
just plain ole ban
waxen frigate
In LFR cause I called a mage a dumbass for triggering the frog about 20 times an...
I got banned for a way more based transgression
lusty grotto
now that's a good one
warm plinth
9 times out of 10 you catch a silence for language, not a ban.
lusty grotto
yeah thats what i meant
sick sentinel
I have never been silenced only banned