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jagged pier
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sheild block makes u block all attacks that can be blocked if u dont have it up your block chance is like 30%

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so if u send spell block without shield block up

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u only have a 30% chance to block the magic

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as its based off your block chance if u reduce it or not

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if u have shield block up u will then have a 100% chance to block the magic as shield block makes u block all blockable attacks

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from infront of u of course

tender phoenix
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Ah ok that makes alot more sense to me thanks

tribal wharf
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not mine

deft hinge
tribal wharf
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i stopped keeping up with that comic after the drama with it

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  • it turned to shit
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feels accurate, running 2 on use trinket generally = feel very bad

blazing condor
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gz everybody who is unlucky

jagged pier
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helped someone in our guild already

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i mean they could just have it like me already

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but

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u know

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🤷

hardy snow
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again no myth signet in vault sadge

tribal wharf
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Translation: cope seethe mald

tawdry dirge
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heya does ILVL take over embelishment anywhen or is the embelishment always better?

pliant trout
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just did hc fyrakk still no drop UuU so the fix is a placebo, but one dude got it idk

tawdry dirge
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or just sim it? (but i guess tankines is ilvl not ebleishment)

jagged pier
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embleishment is always better

tawdry dirge
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fair play but we use 2x shadowflame if i am right, dosnt do much for tankiness except things die faster 😄

blazing condor
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so therefore you get more tanky 😄

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less damage taken if things die quicker

tribal wharf
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wait a minute

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so i have 200 hp and the boss does 50 dmg fire balls every 30 seconds, so i die in 4 fireballs

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so if i hit the boss harder, to where he only does 3 fireballs i dont die? mind blown

covert flower
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I mean that'd be true in very few cases realistically speaking

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But it's nice dmg to have for sure

tribal wharf
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like, thats the mind set you want to have, i think anyways

covert flower
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Like you're taking less damage, a very small amount less, that is true

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But the damage you're reducing is piss worthless damage

tribal wharf
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longer the fight drags on, more dmg goes out needs to be dealt with and dps gets fatigued killing said boss

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impossible to have a 30 second boss on a +22 i imagine, but way i see it every boss should be 1-3.5 minutes, and any possible stupid little thing you can do to squish that timer the beter imho

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any longer is too long for me to want to invest into learning those keys

covert flower
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Laughs in Yalnu

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Laughs in Iridikron

blazing condor
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first completely dead vault this season

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cant even pick socket

tribal wharf
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rip bozo

lusty grotto
jagged pier
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any rageheart of augury today nim?

lusty grotto
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we got augury last night

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and then the DDOS fucked it

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im not entirely sure of the details

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but it was only 3 people that needed it including me

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something about a dc making it not tradeable

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its ok i still gotta clear fyrakk normal 😢

tribal wharf
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i think whenever ai gets a hold of the internet fully alot of new tech problems will arise, but many will be instantly solved over night

lusty grotto
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1 more chance

tribal wharf
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like, cuz ddos is a bad thing

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that is hard to combat

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new wild west whenever that happens

hardy snow
lusty grotto
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well to be fair i would be way more pissed if it was a rageheart

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a ticket was made for it though, pretty sure blizz wont do anything about it

opaque quest
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Blizz just fired 200 more support peeps

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So no

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They wont

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Cause they got no capacity

lusty grotto
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yeah

opaque quest
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And in true blizz fashion they give no statement

tribal wharf
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spoopy

blazing condor
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if u gotta use a bunch of special characters to "get a name" the name automatically becomes incredibly cringe

jagged pier
hardy snow
blazing condor
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companies whose "customer support" consists of "the helpful AI bot" can go die

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spend 5 minutes writing / pressing "your issue --> specific --> specific" --- "sorry we cant help u "

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cheers

opaque quest
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No more personalized GM jokes

deft hinge
opaque quest
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No more free pets for me when they mess up stuff

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No more free 24 hours to activate a wow token

blazing condor
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at the same time we no longer have to see the "greeting fellow traveler! my name is GM Fuzzyballs and i am a hard working wolf eager to assist their master today OwO"

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i aint tryna get "glomped" by a GM

opaque quest
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No way you got that in a GM response

blazing condor
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ive seen it once

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on some image somewhere

opaque quest
blazing condor
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it wasn't exactly that but it was pretty much that

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this wasnt it but i found this one

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its not that bad but still

opaque quest
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Thank god german GMs take the stone faced unfunny approach. I get a greetings then 1 sentence with good or bad news then the bad gm joke and a by lmao

blazing condor
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thats just germans in general

opaque quest
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yea keks

violet ginkgo
opaque quest
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The players are the DDOS because muh trilion dollar company no moni for servi

lusty grotto
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well they did post about it

tribal wharf
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more like cuz muh pixels a nd parses

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ya lol

blazing condor
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youd think the gameplay they specifically tuned and made for 10-30 people would handle 10-30 people

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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that or gold or paid irl the raid leader

opaque quest
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Even Irelands minister or smth asked

young meadow
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If I'm 6500+ haste, which rune should I be using?

tribal wharf
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my haste has gone really low

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6070 atm

tribal wharf
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what about attack power

young meadow
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Is there a breakpoint where I would switch?

tribal wharf
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i have some of those left in bag i think

opaque quest
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no

waxen frigate
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Attack power runes have been used by like maybe one spec all xpac

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The secondaries are so much better

tribal wharf
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they just left overs is all

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probably from prior patch even

opaque quest
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Where weight stones

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Counter weights?

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What were the hammer ones called

waxen frigate
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Weightstones

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Or weighstones

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Don’t remember the spelling

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I remember in shadowlands they were a bitch because they were 10x more expensive than sharpening stones

opaque quest
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Classic blizz making different recipes for items with the same function

waxen frigate
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Yeah i think the stones required silk or something that was a green mat

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And the other was just white mats

tribal wharf
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whet = wet = water = makes the blade easy to repair and craft

waxen frigate
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That’s not what it’s called in game though

tribal wharf
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whetstone and weightstone in game for current season

waxen frigate
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I guess they changed it in DF. Regardless they’re useless

tribal wharf
# opaque quest 🤓

i'm not science enjoyer, but man, i think math really sheds alot of light on things really fast when applied and then understood.

lusty grotto
opaque quest
lusty grotto
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Also we had members DC left and right, plus people were having issues during the day

opaque quest
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hah gottem

lusty grotto
opaque quest
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I had to do it sorry

tribal wharf
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the space ship game im trying to beat s way too hard, have to pick up those objects and move them through out the stage, all while dealing with fuel and obstacles, and if the towed object hits something on hard, you die instantly

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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more like lunar lander on crack if you want to be accurate

opaque quest
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Havent worked for Nasa yet

tribal wharf
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Price

$19.99

Recommendations

890

Metacritic

75

▶ Play video
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at 3 fps cuz computer couldnt really run it

blazing condor
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unless the controls are SUPER janky

tribal wharf
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its a +30 key if played on hard

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+20 on normal, +10 on easy

blazing condor
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at least in that clip you only died cus you took a really bad angle

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unless you didnt know obstacles would kill you

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if it hit something you picked up

tribal wharf
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thats the problem the game requires you to be completely invested

blazing condor
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more like "oh that kills me? okay"

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and then u dont do it again

opaque quest
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Its just like Dork Suls

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When i played Lies of P and got fucked by a hiding dude that pushed me off a roof i was like wtf

tribal wharf
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TOTAL CONCENTRATION

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NERVES OF STEEL

blazing condor
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dark souls fanbase are even dumber lol

opaque quest
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I enjoyed lies of p but i dont enjoy the random bullshit that you cant counter except by dying to it 1 time

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"Difficulty"

blazing condor
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"omg this game is the hardest game ever le git gud!!! lol normies cant even beat first boss"
then one guy comes along and does a build that just one shots everything cus the game is actually p easy

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"omg ur cheesing the game by playing that build idiot youre ruining everything!!"

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so the game isn't hard youre just purposefully gimping yourself by playing a bad build

jagged pier
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malenia with lots of hp build

opaque quest
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Just play Monster Hunter

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Same stuff but no bullshit

covert flower
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Yeah but for somebody who just picks the game up and experiences it themself

opaque quest
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Just pure knowledge

blazing condor
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case in question was that i one shot everything in elden ring because i played the most OP build accidentally

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mimic tear + bleed build

covert flower
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You're not gonna be running an optimal cheese build are you

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You're gonna run with whatever you've decided to go with

blazing condor
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ate through malenia in like 5 attempts

jagged pier
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👍

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and i always got zug anyway

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cause its fun

blazing condor
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and then the rest was easy

tribal wharf
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you mean asmon every time he opens a darksouls fight video and he immediately asks if they used a summon or not "oh thank god they didnt use a summon youd have to be a total loser to have to use a summon to beat this guy, i beat this guy on my first attempt"

blazing condor
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my biggest gripe with elden ring was that using summons made the fights too easy

jagged pier
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i mean asmon also practices bosses offline

blazing condor
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but some fights were too hard

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without it

jagged pier
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was obvious with D3

opaque quest
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You can be sure i summoned everywhere i could in LoP

jagged pier
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'first attempt' on king

opaque quest
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And i used Throwables too

blazing condor
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at least i didnt play sellsword twinblades in ds3

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not that giant club was any better keks

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bonk everything

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and you can just stagger every boss

opaque quest
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I cant play str builds in those games its to slow for me

blazing condor
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same in DS1 where you can just put on havels and chug estuses/humanities mid combat

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beat manus by just standing there tanking

jagged pier
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zug is the only way

blazing condor
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have yet to play ds2 though

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for some reason wont work with my controller no matter what i do

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same with sekiro

jagged pier
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i have a play thorugh going

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but its been like months since ive played it

covert flower
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DS2 is funny because it's viewed as the worst in the series but I actually like it

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There's so many shit bosses but it's fun

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Like it's actually bloated with shit bosses and yet it's just enjoyable IDK how to explain it

blazing condor
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ds2 just looks like the bastard child between "clunky but lovable ds1" and "dope ds3"

tribal wharf
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ya, if you like dark souls difficulty level of game play get my game, even on easy mode it can be hell for a beginner

blazing condor
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surely

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nah im jk probably is what do i know

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i dont play those boomer games

tribal wharf
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not skilled enouigh i se

opaque quest
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Watch yogi beat the laws of physics turning his back to enemies in a 2D sidescroller

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You guys should play LoP

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It has a coherent story

blazing condor
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i should get a job

jagged pier
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dont

jagged pier
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dont become a wage slave

blazing condor
jagged pier
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find a different way

opaque quest
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I had to do my job today. I worked from 3 am to 11 am

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Then slept 2 hours

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Now im here

blazing condor
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pog

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i slept from 1am to 11 am

blazing condor
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that is also me

jagged pier
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sleep more

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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i hate this guy so much

jagged pier
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dont hang in here not worth it

blazing condor
opaque quest
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God i never wanna wake up

blazing condor
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see u guys

opaque quest
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Have a fullfilling shopping experience

lusty grotto
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Elden ring wasn't hard

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It was fun though

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Other souls games are harder

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Still a god tier game for sure

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Either way you will never see yogi play a souls game, he plays obscure shit that nobody has ever heard before, the true video game hipster

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Dentist appointment wait deadge

opaque quest
lusty grotto
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"This IPA is totally different, also I was a radiohead fan before they were popular"

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"halo 3 what? It's all about this cosmic rocket spaceship 2"

opaque quest
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keks P E R F E C T

lusty grotto
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I actually like IPAs but beer snobs used to be the worst sometimes I swear

opaque quest
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If i wasnt an atheist i wouldve been christened in beer

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German life

blazing condor
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Does IPA stand for I piss a lot cus thats what i do

opaque quest
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It stands for interplanetaty assault

lusty grotto
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Beer is love, beer is life

lusty grotto
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I really wanna go to Germany one day

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Literally my #1 pick at the moment for a trip

lusty grotto
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My friends are like Nah let's go to South America, Iceland or Japan

opaque quest
lusty grotto
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I'm like bruh

opaque quest
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I wanted to visit san francisco while the grandparents got the kids

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Then i saw how bad a state the city in in and changed my plans

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Will probably just visit sweden again

lusty grotto
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Plenty of decent places over here

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But

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SF ain't one of them

opaque quest
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Aye

lusty grotto
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Not even close

opaque quest
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Btw if you visit germany stay in hamburg

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And visit the harbour

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Miniature Wunderland i.e

lusty grotto
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Maybe if you do a one day thing and see the landmarks and that's it

blazing condor
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My closest irl friend is from there and has now moved back there

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Economy in the toilet

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Shits mad expensive

lusty grotto
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Yeah I've heard

blazing condor
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Definitely something you should do once at least tho

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Very beautiful place

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But just go look at the scenery

lusty grotto
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Yup

opaque quest
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To be fair every country is beautiful if you subtract humans

blazing condor
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Reykjavik is mid and thats p much the only city worth visiting unless u wanna drive 6 hours for a smaller version of it

lusty grotto
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Lol rooach, cmon, people are also part of it for better or worse, I've been on shit places with awesome people and vice versa

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It's just part of the exp

blazing condor
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Icelandic ppl are very chill

blazing condor
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At least the younger ones

lusty grotto
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Oh

blazing condor
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Iceland got tons of drug problems n stuff

opaque quest
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ofc there are good and bad ppl everywhere

blazing condor
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Many alcoholics and junkies

deft hinge
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Blue lagoon closed, lava recently poring closeby. Probably best to wait a bit if ur not a lava fan. Reykjavik is nice place, order fermented shark with liquor on the side, itz good

opaque quest
lusty grotto
opaque quest
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Our hotel during out trip was gonna be near tenderloin

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We dodged a bullet

covert flower
deft hinge
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if u go to Florida, stay in Orlando, dont go Miami, drugs and bad people every block in my experience

covert flower
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Singapore gives death penalty to drug smugglers hardly anybody risks that shit

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Most of the people who do are being paid/controlled by others

opaque quest
blazing condor
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Active volcano from the plane

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Went there last summer

lusty grotto
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Nice pic

deft hinge
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Church in Reykjavik

lusty grotto
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OK that looks badass

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I don't know why

blazing condor
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Yea its a cool churc

deft hinge
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Norwegian viking statue, but it doesnt say so on text, cause he was founder of Island wich is proudness

blazing condor
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They also got this for every paladin player

opaque quest
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ahahaha

lusty grotto
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Is that a... Fortune cookie

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Lol

opaque quest
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A fortune cookie with weird pubes

lusty grotto
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True

tribal wharf
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unknown paladin

lusty grotto
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Dat chipadin

blazing condor
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I member when my logs used to be all pink

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Now they just orange sadge

tribal wharf
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thats a ret paladin that can twist my seals any day

lusty grotto
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close enough

tribal wharf
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so, larodar is easy as melee huh

lusty grotto
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Uhh

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Sure?

tribal wharf
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cuz i played ret and rogue early wow and warrior more recently

lusty grotto
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Mythic version, not so much

tribal wharf
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well u have 95 on him and everyhing else 88

lusty grotto
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I had leggo on that run

tribal wharf
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oh, well i dont have it for one, but meh my weapons are DOG SHIT for dps

lusty grotto
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I hadn't parsed before that, there's not a lot chipadin needs from there

tribal wharf
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id have to go single minded brain cell to do dps as fury is how bad my 2hs are

opaque quest
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lmao

lusty grotto
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I don't really go back to farm parses if you catch my drift

opaque quest
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Thats not how parsed work yogi

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Its compared to other rets

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So if a boss is hard on melee its hard on all melees not just nimchip kek

tribal wharf
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SMF cleaver and gholak both 489, someone make it happen for science

lusty grotto
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They have

tribal wharf
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well that sucks cuz nobody uses it so its bad lmao

lusty grotto
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Not gonna be as good as TG, much less TG with leggo

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I mean

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It's not dogshit

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But it's not the best

tribal wharf
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how many months of season 3 we got

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or weeks

opaque quest
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You wont get new content until november. Who cares if the season is 3 or 4

blazing condor
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Wym i love df dungeons

lusty grotto
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Here you go

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So basically until TWW hits

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Cause fated has shared loot

tribal wharf
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some are way too fucking long and some are a bit janky

lusty grotto
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Theres 2 that are dogshit

tribal wharf
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ruby

lusty grotto
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The rest are good

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Nope

tribal wharf
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hate ruby

opaque quest
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Azure vault

lusty grotto
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Hoi and uldaman

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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i hate ruby with vigorous passion

lusty grotto
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Those are the 2 dogshit ones

opaque quest
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Its wild how everybody hates Ulda and HoI

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Almost like Blizz messed up kek

lusty grotto
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HoI is too fucking long

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Uldaman tyrannical has what 6 fucking bosses that truck?

opaque quest
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HoI also consistently fails on the bridge part which is the very end wasting 30 minutes

tribal wharf
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all u need to fix uby is from the moment u take the dragon up to the top for the first time, you respawn there immediately upon landing and graveyard

polar field
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i liked ulda 😮

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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and the dragons but meh

lusty grotto
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How many dungeons in keys do you know that have as many bosses as uldaman has?

opaque quest
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Im glad i bought DF late and didnt experience pre nerf RLP

tribal wharf
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its more an annoyance factor than anything

opaque quest
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Well SoO then

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oh wait

lusty grotto
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Fort uldaman was chill don't get me wrong

tribal wharf
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have to respawn THEN taxi up

opaque quest
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No bleed

lusty grotto
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There's literally not a single key, ever, that has the number of bosses uldaman had

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And with tyrannical...

tribal wharf
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that, or if you activate a dungeon graveyard in a key, make it aparent tombstone appears with spirit healer and skulls and crosses and candles and flowers

lusty grotto
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That key just goes down the drain

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Hoi fucking sucked all around though, fuck that dungeon

tribal wharf
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is infusion the one with water shit at the end big hallway water crap show on fort

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big water elemental at the end

lusty grotto
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On any affix

tribal wharf
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that dungeon wasnt that bad if you ask me

lusty grotto
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It sucked on any affix

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It was dogshit

tribal wharf
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like some of it, ya, but tuning stuff, not redesign thing

lusty grotto
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This is not a difficulty discussion

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It's badly designed

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Too long

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Gy runs are fucking awful

tribal wharf
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i prefer the dungeons that are over 30 minutes

lusty grotto
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Not for keys

tribal wharf
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but not more than 50 minutes

lusty grotto
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I mean

opaque quest
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So much time wasted

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Make everything like RLP

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20 mins in and out

tribal wharf
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im not a big fan of the stricter time limits

blazing condor
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I mean short =/= strict

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You can have a dungeon thats piss easy timer but only 20 min long

restive scroll
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easy is one thing, but I'm not a fan of long walks in dungeons

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HoV was a particularly good example of that, Upper karazhan too

tribal wharf
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you die in a nintendo game it sends you back to the start of the entire game, with nothing, so you quit

opaque quest
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Just give Cata dungeon teleporters ty

lusty grotto
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So?

restive scroll
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you're talking about a time before saves was possible on the hardware there

restive scroll
opaque quest
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Ye. TotT has TPs too

blazing condor
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Feels like they always do dumb spawn points in m+

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No reason not to let you spawn at the previously killed boss

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So you dont have shit like shrine of the storm

tribal wharf
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in very beginning VP wasnt tuned right the dragons werent tuned and died early and didnt do as much dmg, have as much hp

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which eventually got nerfed

opaque quest
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There is a reason. Its the same reason they increased the time to teleport in Diablo4

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Engagement

lusty grotto
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Yeah it's just the dungeon team not being the same as the m+ balancing team pretty much

blazing condor
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Fun i love arbitrarily running

tribal wharf
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but everyone remmbered the launch state of vp and said oh fuck that place

lusty grotto
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Vp was fucking dogshit

blazing condor
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If i wanted a travel simulator id play dayz

tribal wharf
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or um im thinking of the wrath one but ya

lusty grotto
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This isn't a difficulty discussion

tribal wharf
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what no vp cata good

lusty grotto
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Once again

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Not a difficulty discussion

blazing condor
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You cant really compare modern dungeons to cata hcs

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Completely different system

lusty grotto
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Being difficult does not mean automatically bad

opaque quest
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Agreed. Back then no MM so HC dungeons were harder

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ZA and ZG M+ when?

tribal wharf
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cata zg needs to be cut in half

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and some of the bosses are quite cancer

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tyranical final will be horrific

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i once as a rogue on the first day spent 50 wipes on him when he first releassed

opaque quest
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Tuning always happens

tribal wharf
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nobody would kill chains we get screwed

blazing condor
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Or jindo i guess the boss is

lusty grotto
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I didn't really have issues with cata dungeons

tribal wharf
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they can add zg but there will be mass maldings

lusty grotto
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Idk

tribal wharf
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i do

opaque quest
tribal wharf
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im pretty sure

blazing condor
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Id love to do revamped deadminea again

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Shitd be tight

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Especially vanessa gauntlet

lusty grotto
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The only thing I can remember was uhh grim batol fails, but that's about it

opaque quest
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Let me afk during dragons

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So the dungeon is 20 instead of 5 minutes

tribal wharf
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red bubble dedmines cata

opaque quest
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Oh yeah the shuriken storm mobs lmao

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I really hope they remove very rare shit next season so i can play again. Kinda miss my DK

tribal wharf
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if they do, puyt mr smite back and make him kicck ur ass

lusty grotto
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Well next season well have dinars

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So

opaque quest
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Oh

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fuck

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Rooach is gonna be back baby

lusty grotto
#

You're gonna be okay

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Me too

graceful cobalt
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Rezan's Gleaming Eye+Accelerating Sandglass or Scale or Pip's Emerald Friendship Badge wich should i combo play as Tank? Fyrak didinßt drop yet for me

lusty grotto
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Pip bad

opaque quest
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Algethar will be in rota so my DK is good to go anyways

lusty grotto
#

Firs combo is fine

opaque quest
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I got a 421 Puzzle from my last vault then they nerfed it 8 hours later lol

lusty grotto
#

What's going on with my autocorrect Jesus christ

violet ginkgo
#

autocorrect need maintenance

tribal wharf
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i will never forget nome 3 rings vault

opaque quest
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I had a 5 cloak vault in S1

lusty grotto
#

Rezan + sandglass/scales is the combo you want, fuck pips

graceful cobalt
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ok thx

lusty grotto
opaque quest
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POG

lusty grotto
#

Good thing I needed a pair... For fury

opaque quest
#

Just evolve to milipede

lusty grotto
opaque quest
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oh no i just realized i didnt save wtf and interface

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If my Wife killed her external im fucked

lusty grotto
opaque quest
#

Anways gonna grab Kiddos

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Cya later

blazing condor
#

i had to reinstall my wow in bfa

#

forgot that screenshots folder is a thing

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rip everything from cata

#

up to bfa

opaque quest
#

I had to much time browsing while waiting

warm plinth
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If you kill fyrakk on heroic, can the axe still drop that week on normal? Or is that included in the no blp from lower difficulties

opaque quest
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Nope heroic only from vault after HC kill

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No double dipping

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Wait what axe, legy? No clue

restive scroll
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if it works like Evoker's last patch, no

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It only takes the highest difficulty

jagged pier
#

hc gives u all the chances of difficulties below it

restive scroll
#

^

waxen frigate
#

Pretty convincing evidence of that was when I got BLP and axe on the same kill

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From presumably 2 separate rolls

lusty tiger
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It felt like the BLP was doing nothing

warm plinth
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But if you do heroic one week but can't the next, you can still get the blp/drop from e.g. normal correct

opaque quest
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Whats a BLP

warm plinth
#

Bad luck protection

opaque quest
#

oh shouldve guessed

waxen frigate
blazing condor
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bacon lettuce potato

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irish blp sandwich ukno

opaque quest
#

I hope the legy isnt a thing next season. Knowing my luck ill get it last week before TWW like puzzle box

blazing condor
#

idk how theyd do legendary fated

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is my leggo just automatically gonna get an ilvl increase or do you get some item off of "new" fyrakk to upgrade it

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etc etc

opaque quest
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With Sylvanas you had to drop another one

blazing condor
#

pog

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but that was just "normal" drop right?

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not personalized

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per se

#

(it was personal ik cus no group loot)

opaque quest
#

Ye normal i believe

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Cant wait for hunters to rage about rasz again now that we talk about bows

blazing condor
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personally i gotta learn an entire raid cus i only killed eggnog in s1

warm plinth
#

Yeah pretty sure with sylv you just looted an item that upgraded the olevel

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Ilevel

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I assume it'll be the same this time around but probably a guaranteed drop or something (considering the emphasis on the blp this time around)

opaque quest
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I only did 4/9 in armidrassil

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Think im gonna buy curve this time to cheat the system enxt season and get into grps

warm plinth
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I did normal once i think and I won a free fyrakk kill from bdg splits so I have aotc

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That's it though

blazing condor
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i spent so many hours pugging that shit

opaque quest
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Ye same. I did normal once then 4 hc and thats it

blazing condor
#

week 2 curve tho which is better than what ive done before tbh

opaque quest
warm plinth
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I'm thinking about trying to find a raid guild for next tier. Just casual heroic shit

opaque quest
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I got week 2 rasz and day 3 aberrus and rasz is gonna be pain

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Rasz wasnt doable without discord

restive scroll
#

Firakk took me two days of pug progress or something, first week.
Definitely not that bad

winged slate
#

Fyrakk weirdly was the easiest end boss for my guild this expansion

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Granted, heroic

opaque quest
#

Was talking about HC too. Rasz just takes 15 minutes and people have the attention span of a dog these days

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Aberrus was very chill. Even without discord and only 425 ilvl

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Talking about pugs here

blazing condor
#

Fyrakk is honestly an easy boss

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(On hc)

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And the difficulty is gates by numbers so it becomes even easier as time goes by

#

Compared to raz/sark

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Fyrakk all you really gotta do is make sure seeds dont blow otherwise its just do damage/heal

opaque quest
#

I feel like the hardest part with rasz is that everybody needs to be on their game. You cant carry 5 ppl like on other bosses because everybody needs to interrupt or manage debuffs

lusty grotto
#

yeah fyrakk isnt really that difficult barring mythic p2 and last phase

#

but

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its a well designed boss

#

its actually one of my top end bosses

blazing condor
#

I like it 🙂

lusty grotto
#

i absolutely love everythign about it, the banter he drops and the mechanics

opaque quest
#

I love that he argues with mommy alex

#

Pretty good

lusty grotto
#

the first time i heard "what about your mother"

opaque quest
#

Dude wants to get shit done

lusty grotto
#

honestly aside from Experiments

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mythic exp

#

id say most of the raids have been great this exp

#

but mythic exp was just fucking garbage

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dps too high? you get fucked

#

dps too low? you get fucked

#

priest required

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thats not mentioning prot warrior woes

#

with the absolute poopy melee dot stacking

#

honestly the worst designed fight in the whole exp

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i know M Echo also was bad due to the real boss: private WAs

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but if that wasnt the case, i would have loved it

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i liked the heroic version at least

tribal wharf
#

when is correct time to take HR over ITF

opaque quest
#

Yea 100%. I enjoyed every raid so far. Amirdrassil in normal was cool i just didnt wanna deal with very rare

tribal wharf
#

like say you have low haste

#

how low does haste need to go before it becomes what to do

#

im down to 6070 haste before any buffs

lusty grotto
#

5400 rating is the bare min

#

you should be fine with ITF in that case

warm plinth
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5400ish is the potential swap over point. But you're already struggling with blocked hits so just keep HR

lusty grotto
#

yeahh im with ghash on this one too

warm plinth
#

Once you have taken our feedback into account and are comfortable, then you can swap

tribal wharf
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on trash cuz i charge around like a crazy man too much

#

last key i logged was 100% blocked melee vs all 5 bosses wcm

warm plinth
#

That's good. How was the rest of the key?

lusty grotto
#

what about the whole key?

tribal wharf
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that was the key that i aggroed pig boss with haead ecnhant lmfao

lusty grotto
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uhhh?

#

we all have head enchants

warm plinth
#

I aggroed raal with shield on pally twice In a row once

tribal wharf
warm plinth
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2nd time was one of the biggest bounces ever

tribal wharf
#

walked out after and thought he'd despawn

#

guess what lol

#

i thought maybe it was like hunter pet got in and was on the boss keeping it in combat

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

Are you running titanic tjrow?

lusty grotto
#

pull with heroic throw

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pull with taunt

tribal wharf
#

but, so now i know i have to target far right mob with throw or taunt it...

lusty grotto
#

just taunt

#

dont heroic throw shit thats close to other mobs you dont want to agro

tribal wharf
#

no, head enchant causes some attacks to do aoe fire

lusty grotto
#

well hes right with that one

tribal wharf
#

and i hit the mob with throw and it just so happened to align the planets

lusty grotto
#

right

warm plinth
#

Ohbh

lusty grotto
#

but dont heroic throw there

#

just pull with taunt

tribal wharf
#

yep, now i know that can happen, but i dont have many resasons to go there beesides ez crest and ez push

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got all the EOD loot it can drop on hero

lusty grotto
#

how are you ez pushing if youre doing the same level of key?

tribal wharf
#

i could push WCM to 22 to 24

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i could not for dht as easily

lusty grotto
#

i mean im not saying you should

#

but why would you say "ez push"

#

when youre not

tribal wharf
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cuz i have knowledge in it, so its easy push

lusty grotto
#

yogi pushing means

#

you do higher key levels

tribal wharf
#

i have no second questions when it comes to WCM i know like every possible outcome

lusty grotto
#

if you stay on the same key level, you're not pushing

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so when you say "ez push", thats not what youre doing at all

young meadow
#

How many stacks do you guys go to on tree boss before burn?

lusty grotto
#

does that make sense?

#

sub 24s i just dont reset

warm plinth
#

No more than 30-35 unless boss is gonna die before you need to reset.

lusty grotto
#

25s and forward, around 30

#

yeah what ghash said

tribal wharf
#

and never when thorns active

lusty grotto
#

indeed

young meadow
#

Okay cool. I did an 18 the other day and wanted to see how high I could go. Got clapped at like 60

lusty grotto
#

what shield do you have

#

is it hero? myth?

tribal wharf
#

60+ you start to get punished

lusty grotto
#

are you keeping SB up?

young meadow
#

Mine?

lusty grotto
#

yes

#

you Marino

warm plinth
#

Yeah you shouldn't need to reset on an 18 at all

young meadow
#

Uh, it's hero 6/6

lusty grotto
#

should be fine

#

are you keeping SB up? do you have gaps

#

1 gap and youre potentially dead (on high stacks)

young meadow
#

I def did not keep shield block up. It was one of the first dungeons I did s prot

warm plinth
#

Yeah even his melees start to fuck at like 45-50 stacks if you aren't blocking

young meadow
#

I didn't even know you could stack shield blocks until I got a weak aura later that night

tribal wharf
#

i think 35 is probably the ideal amount

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so tht you dont have to do it too many time s and hurt the group too much, depends how much they can dps it

lusty grotto
#

well you can stack 3 of them, but its kind of not recommended to do if you dont know the duration

young meadow
#

I just started swapping to prot from fury recently. I haven't tanked since wrath unless you could glad stance

tribal wharf
#

if u have very strong dps just fuck the tree lmao

#

hes a do nothing in that case

waxen frigate
#

Forget literally everything you knew

lusty grotto
#

keeping SB from vanilla/tbc/wrath is basically the same

#

its easier

young meadow
lusty grotto
#

and you def shouldn't be stacking it if a fight is shorter than its duration

#

and "stacking" is a weird way to put it

#

you dont stack them

#

you stack its duration

tribal wharf
#

what track is your gholak

young meadow
#

Just champion unfortunately

tribal wharf
#

wish i had one, must be nice

opaque quest
#

Marino why do you use 70vers gems

#

Now that i checked dude is full vers

#

Yogi is Marino your second acc?

young meadow
tribal wharf
young meadow
#

Is the verse not good?

tribal wharf
#

ho boy here we go

#

the versa conversation

#

-popcorn

opaque quest
#

Go for it Yogi

#

explain it

lusty grotto
#

we gravitate towards crit in this channel

#

but as long as you follow that prio you'll be fine

#

vers is simply not that good unless you have a bazillion of it

opaque quest
#

"which you cant have in this patch"

lusty grotto
#

or ever, unless we're playing BFA Versatile corruption classic

opaque quest
#

Ye probably ever

#

Corruptions was such a fun system executed in the worst way possible lmao

lusty grotto
#

yea

#

same deal with legion leggos

opaque quest
#

I played Pala. Got blessing bracers. Rerolled DK 1 minute later and got bis bracers

#

Sooooo

#

I cant complain? Or can i? Im not sure

lusty grotto
#

heh

#

after i did my prot mage tower and then arms/fury, and i got the vdh one and havoc

#

i leveled my druid

#

instant luffa

#

or whatever the fucking shit was that made mage tower ez mode

opaque quest
#

Ye Luffa Wraps

#

Used them on my Feral for it

lusty grotto
#

was like "oh"

#

i swear blizzard wants me playing everything except warrior, but im a masochist

#

took me 3 leggos before i got belt on my war iirc

young meadow
#

Is crit>=verse for raid builds?

lusty grotto
#

yes

#

for everything

opaque quest
young meadow
#

Cause top rates warriors are taking verse over crit. Is that simply because of the difficulty of high keys?

lusty grotto
#

but even then 29s have been done with crit

opaque quest
#

Top warriors have 10 more ilvl than you

#

Fully optimized teams

#

And perfect routes

#

Do you?

lusty grotto
#

rank 1 key pushers always go vers

opaque quest
#

Aye

lusty grotto
#

they dont even think about it

#

they know thats what they are going to gear

#

if you ask most of them they wont have an explanation for it

young meadow
lusty grotto
#

its just a safe stat to go for when youre pushing extremely high

#

without any thinking or TC

opaque quest
lusty grotto
#

at 21% vers

#

on your char

#

you gain 10.5% DR

#

that goes away on 1 key up

#

crit doesnt really get negated

#

just food for thought

blazing condor
#

Why take 100k less damage when u can just parry

#

Also in todays meta where dps take a lot of aggro with bursts why not crit

opaque quest
#

Stuck in 2014 when vers was a tank stat

lusty grotto
#

well its also cause

opaque quest
#

Just remove it from pve and call it resilience

lusty grotto
#

what he said

#

and also because other tanks do favor versa

lusty grotto
#

but even vdh goes haste/crit

#

so im guessing mostly BDKs and Brews

opaque quest
#

The problem is that vers sounds alot better than it is

lusty grotto
#

maybe prot pala idk

opaque quest
#

We just take w/e cause ilvl and stam is so good for % heals

lusty grotto
#

fair enough

young meadow
#

It probably wouldn't seem so bad if haste wasn't such an overloaded secondary

#

It just does everything

lusty grotto
#

i dont see the problem with it, hasted everything feels good

#

i see more of a problem with versa existing

#

cause its just a fucking boring stat

opaque quest
#

Remove vers

#

Give area damage from D3

young meadow
#

Is it anymore boring than crit?

lusty grotto
#

why do you consider crit boring?

waxen frigate
#

Crit has interactions with abilities, passives, and varying class features

#

Vers does not

opaque quest
#

Crit makes numba go big and flash. Big neuron activation

waxen frigate
#

Crit does different things on Warrior, Brewmaster, and Bear, for example.

#

Vers does the same thing

opaque quest
#

Reiposte

young meadow
opaque quest
#

Riposte

opaque quest
#

What about rage gain on bear on crit

waxen frigate
#

Crit can also play into more interesting stuff like frost mage

opaque quest
#

Shatter

waxen frigate
#

Vers is literally just increase tooltip number

lusty grotto
#

vers is by definition boring

#

its literally the floor

#

everything else is above it

opaque quest
#

Crit also works for fire mage and pyro

#

Crit works for alot of stuff

lusty grotto
#

theres absolutely not a secondary stat type more boring than what vers gives

#

or does

#

gradual increment in power

#

gradual increment in defense

#

okay

warm plinth
#

Well, mastery for some specs keks

lusty grotto
#

yeah but that's kind of spec related

waxen frigate
#

That’s a mixed bag though some masteries are cool

warm plinth
#

Yeah

waxen frigate
#

Vers always highlights poor spec design if it’s good

#

Mastery being good can highlight both good and bad spec design

#

Like frost DK mastery or fury mastery

#

Zzz

opaque quest
#

Just give me icicle type masteries for all classes

#

Stacking stuff that unloads

waxen frigate
#

Icicle is lame

#

It’s better than most but generally has been kinda shit

opaque quest
#

Na icicles are cool

#

Better than % increase

waxen frigate
#

Yeah for sure

#

It’s at least flavorful and unique

opaque quest
#

Make Aberrus UH tier into the UH mastery

#

Done

lusty grotto
#

anyway a stat being boring or not is kind of a tangent, vers is okay to have, it just depends on the content level and type (i.e. infinitely scaling, pvp, etc)

dusky canopy
#

Nim

#

can you afk through a superbloom and give the buff after on any alts?

#

starts iin 8

lusty grotto
#

youre alliance right?

#

oh no

dusky canopy
#

horde

lusty grotto
#

youre a troll

#

well i cant in 8 mins but i can probably do it for next

dusky canopy
#

sweet! thanks brotha

lusty grotto
#

actually...

dusky canopy
#

if not no worries I have a few other friends helping too

#

just asking whoever might be available

lusty grotto
#

you cant really afk blooms cause they move and green/blue/epic bags plus looting the end boss give % for the quest

#

look for bloom raids in custom group finder

#

i didnt know about this on my war but a friend mentioned it, so i did that on my pally

#

full raids can purple bag easily

#

and there's probably a fuckton of people doing leggos today

#

anyway ill let you know

tribal wharf
#

SHOULD have depleted that 19 wcm, probably pug/put together 20 wcm tomorrow

#

then i'll have one on fort and tryanical

lusty grotto
#

@dusky canopy magechip will help for this one

#

in 22 mins

dusky canopy
#

All good brotha! I used all 3 last round

#

hopefully i loot more in 22 mins

lusty grotto
#

ok let me know when you have one

dusky canopy
#

@lusty grotto

#

I have one more!

#

haha

#

didnt see it

lusty grotto
#

ok im online

#

what the fuck

#

LOL

tribal wharf
#

id damn tempted to say come carry yogi wcm 20

lusty grotto
#

you dont need a carry

#

you already did a 20 wcm

tribal wharf
#

tyranical

#

not fort

lusty grotto
#

fort isnt hard as long as runeweavers get deleted

#

isnt harder, is what i mean

#

tyrannical is still a step up in that dungeon

opaque quest
#

I always have more probs during fort on my warr

#

DK too

#

Monk is a diff story

tribal wharf
#

dps was saying they were getting 1 shot by some cast

#

on 19

#

bolster i guess

lusty grotto
#

fort is dangeours cause maggot kill people in your group

#

and

#

gorgers

#

nothing to be worried about as a tank honestly

blazing condor
#

Lashers 🙂

restive scroll
#

More worried about bolster in wcm tbh

lusty grotto
#

yeah i guess

restive scroll
#

Waaay too much bolster

lusty grotto
#

but maggots dont bolster so

restive scroll
#

They aren't the only dangers

lusty grotto
#

right

restive scroll
#

Just one of them

lusty grotto
#

honestly if people dont focus runeweavers down, they just dont know how to do that key anyway

restive scroll
#

Fair enough!

opaque quest
#

Do the zombie pig things still cleave in an insane radius like in BFA?

lusty grotto
#

the gorgers

#

they hurt (the rest of the group), but they just got nerfed

#

the radius isnt that big this time around

tribal wharf
#

gg ez

#

first try really

opaque quest
#

Not +2 go again

lusty grotto
#

a win is a win

#

congrats!

tribal wharf
#

i got hit in the back again in the courtyard

#

lol

opaque quest
#

You got a video? Need to confirm you held rmb down

tribal wharf
#

every damn time

opaque quest
#

pog

#

Dont backpaddle so much. Hold RMB and strafe

#

That way you can reposition faster and dont get hit as much in the back

lusty grotto
#

backpedalling is fine

#

baby steps

opaque quest
#

Not if 5 mobs are behind him and he needs to be fast

lusty grotto
#

yeah that's true

opaque quest
#

Movement should be #1 priority even before rota imo but it guess thats personal pref

tribal wharf
#

i gotta make edits to the video

#

ffw effects,

lusty grotto
#

day number 258 of not finding lucky jormies

opaque quest
#

Havent played in a few days but the last thing i did was make a Ferocious/legend/musclehead/ice emperor chillet

#

Its the dangerest of frost noodles

lusty grotto
#

i cant even find a ferocious one

#

i have 3 muscleheads

#

1 brave, and just in case i have sadists and aggresives

opaque quest
#

While catching just make 5 breed stations

#

maybe you get lucky

#

With a random mutation

lusty grotto
#

yeah im counting on it

opaque quest
#

Thats how i got most of my thingies. Just breed 10 at a time and praydge lol

lusty grotto
#

0 hooligans too

opaque quest
#

No need

#

Just use Ferocious muscle and legend

#

Then whatever empowers the element

lusty grotto
#

cant legend ignis

opaque quest
#

Emperor of XXX

tribal wharf
#

alright

opaque quest
#

Oh yeah you right

tribal wharf
#

that video takes like 2-4 hours to get to 1080p

lusty grotto
#

its shiny ferocious muscle and hooligan at best

tribal wharf
#

but its on its way to youtube eventutally

opaque quest
#

Havent thought about beefcake ignis yet

tribal wharf
#

10mbps up fml

lusty grotto
#

well theres really no need for them

#

i guess

#

as a fire attacker maybe, but not as a dragon

opaque quest
#

My team is full of memes. I got chillet cause frost noodle tanzee for AK47 and Liffmunk for SMG keks

lusty grotto
#

since jetragon exists and if you dont have one, reg jormies you can legend into

opaque quest
#

For Fire i just use Faleris

lusty grotto
#

pretty sure blazemut or suzakus are better anyway

#

either way its an excuse to go out there and check

covert flower
#

@tribal wharf

opaque quest
#

Ye prolly upgrades but i rather use pals i wanna use than the meta picks tbf

covert flower
#

also dude

#

please stop underestimating stewards

#

even though we should be good vs them they still hit like trucks

#

if they get a few bolstering stacks on fort you feel some fucking pain

opaque quest
#

Also no pals needed at all if you just abuse gobfins

lusty grotto
#

i fucking hate gobfins

opaque quest
#

Same

#

But they are broken

lusty grotto
#

i refuse to use them

tribal wharf
#

if i ever get banned, use the clips i have made to show case the worst protection warrior that ever was

lusty grotto
#

my friend gave me full crafting of each, fuck em

opaque quest
#

Havent used them either yet. But i saw Videos

#

Pretty sure with 4 Stars and 4 good traits everything just shreds

lusty grotto
#

ima just make power steroid-filled astegons and blazamuts

opaque quest
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Apparently Ice Hedgehog is also pretty viable for everything. I forgot the name. Something cryst

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jolthogs

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I got an astegon too for earth stuff. Sadly they always come with hard skin and are a pain to breed

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Yea Jolthog cryst

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Was the first thing that came to mind lmao

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electric hedgehog

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i mean, like ya,

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CWC the original lolcow

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you can breed off hardskin btw

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yea

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But it takes forever

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My Chillet took me well over 150 eggs

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Aste is around that already too

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You know what Nim? Fuck you. I was enjoying overwatch and because of you i wanna play Palworld now

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i want to play more sub terrania the space sship game

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No

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Play Palworld with us

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on hard of course, but that game will just crush my soul

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aint got it cheif