protection

[covert flower]

at 19 seconds in

you charge and eat hits from 6x bolstered fortified stewards

who double hit

so that's like eating 2 huge hits from behind

there's 2 stewards actually so it's like eating 4 massive unmitigated melees

[waxen frigate]

Give me $300

[warm plinth]

That seems excessive

[lusty grotto]

yes thats 300 monopoly dollars

nish is pricey

quality service guaranteed

[tribal wharf]

so you guys figure i should focus less on hitting charge button

[covert flower]

Unless you have to move

[grim pilot]

@strong forum

dht 2nd boss

[covert flower]

you stand face to mobs at all times

[grim pilot]

how do I do it without rageheart

on 27

[warm plinth]

Charge into the pack. Then stay put.

[grim pilot]

my dht went down from 29 to 27 so imma tank it

[warm plinth]

Leaping out to charge in is just generating rage you probably would have generated by just staying in melee anyway.

Same goes for random charges to farther mobs

[lusty grotto]

myrtu cmon

you know the answer to this

[grim pilot]

sw ls sw and then

I tanked it on 18 tyra

:xdd:

[lusty grotto]

SR every one

[grim pilot]

well yeah

I mean obv that

sr demo def stance IV

but outside of that

[lusty grotto]

just hold demo for one of them

[grim pilot]

to plan my big cds since spell block doesnt work

[lusty grotto]

put it in the LS one, cause LS is nice just for VR but shit

or just ask for an external

[grim pilot]

whats the exact timing before the grips?

[lusty grotto]

the exact number i dont know really cause im not in game but

wall every 2 is easily doable

demo though, that kind of depends on how much youre TCing

[crystal mauve]

I think it’s around 30sec

[lusty grotto]

yeah that would make sense

[warm plinth]

It's every 33 seconds, give or take server tick

[grim pilot]

hm

well i'm gonna run cheat death trinket to be absolutely safe

[lusty grotto]

well yeah you should

[grim pilot]

I forgot to use it in wm 27 and was fine

was also fine in brh 28 but I got stunned on the last pack and it saved me there

:xdd:

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[warm plinth]

Have you tried not getting stunned?

[grim pilot]

I tried

[lusty grotto]

well tbf its kinda scuffed when all 3 or 4 of your ranged are sitting in the safe spot

[grim pilot]

didnt work

[lusty grotto]

so they only aim at you

[grim pilot]

nah its not that

I have some kind of

weird graphics issue with swirlies

or its just wow

someitmes they are fucking invisible

or like, super super barely visible

[lusty grotto]

ive heard about that from other people

thats just density settings

[crystal mauve]

Or sometimes they are under a damn carpet

[grim pilot]

but it's only sometimes with swirlies

would that be density issue?

most of the time I can see them

[lusty grotto]

like sometimes the smoldy WA with the density shit and/or the nymue colorblind bullshit wa dont reset

[crystal mauve]

Last pull of brh the brown swirl can hide under texture easily

[lusty grotto]

and they keep the setting as it goes

ah yes the rug thing

just like neltharus, just like CoS

any swirly on a rug, goes under it

[grim pilot]

stupid stuff

[crystal mauve]

Cause rugs are so important…..

[lusty grotto]

its stupid but alas

[grim pilot]

well

wish me luck

might take aug for some blistering scales action

:xdd:

[crystal mauve]

No need, you stronk #believe

[lusty grotto]

yikes

you mean grip rescue though right?

[grim pilot]

nah

just some extra survi, cc and opp roar

[crystal mauve]

On fort you should be fine without an Aug

[grim pilot]

it's tyra

x)

[lusty grotto]

myrt is eu

[grim pilot]

also first boss

do we just facetank all of it

[crystal mauve]

I did in our 28 (didn’t time tho but that wasn’t the problem)

[grim pilot]

or do we do the moving out action because it's too hard

[lusty grotto]

everything is blockable

bear frontal as well

i dodge it cause i like dodging it

[grim pilot]

how hard does it hit tho

I guess I'll just pop SW for first one if I have cheat death on

and gonna test

[lusty grotto]

it chunks, but wall and SB up is more than enough

[crystal mauve]

Probably 30%hp with shield block up

[strong forum]

coordinate with your healer

beforehand

[lusty grotto]

the real tragedy is xavius with MW and 2 melee

[crystal mauve]

If you have a bit of IP I wouldn’t use any def Cd on it

[tribal wharf]

so, vs the bosses, i am getting 100% blocked hits of melee in that 17 i ran and showed a clip of

[lusty grotto]

its like "welp, i guess ill move xavius all the time and hope jesus take the wheel on baits"

[tribal wharf]

so seems like we are on to something with the charg putting me in a bad location

[crystal mauve]

We tried the 27 with full melee, our pug boomkin sneaky respect to cat when the key started… first leap was a nice fiesta

[grim pilot]

okay

[tribal wharf]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/RFMnhtwGPDCcdKL9#fight=last&type=damage-taken&source=1&ability=1

[crystal mauve]

Take the first with demo shout to have a feel for it and you should be fine

[tribal wharf]

but theres other trash i have abysmal blocked against

[lusty grotto]

xD

perma buffed tyr xavius

[grim pilot]

oh right last boss we just stand in some corner right

and we can just facetank swirlies

if we get any

[lusty grotto]

only if you have 2/3 ranged

[grim pilot]

I do yeah

[lusty grotto]

sure but

[grim pilot]

sp bm

[lusty grotto]

the real danger there is swirlies hitting boss and buffing him

[grim pilot]

ye ik

[lusty grotto]

thats why you dont want a lot of melee

[grim pilot]

5% per swirlie

and it extends

[lusty grotto]

yea

like i said if you have a MW and 2 melee

meaning just 1 ranged

[limpid orbit]

are servers down ?

[lusty grotto]

you fucked

[grim pilot]

rdudu sp bm outlaw

[crystal mauve]

I would avoid them, they hurt in 27 Tyra

[grim pilot]

as in if one gets on my ass while I'm tanking last boss in "safe spot"

they dont oneshot

[lusty grotto]

NA is up at least

[grim pilot]

I can just spell block them

right

[lusty grotto]

they are easy enough to dodge

and no rugs there

[crystal mauve]

You can spell block but it’s safer to dodge tbh

[warm plinth]

Baby steps. Progress is progress.

[grim pilot]

any other stuff I need to know?

before I go into this key

🙏

like I said my highest tyra dht is 18

[tribal wharf]

i will try to take this advice about charge less and stand and sit and attack as i can probably get more rage that way than by the way i do it

[grim pilot]

:xdd:

[crystal mauve]

Nah you good 👍 the rest is easy

[grim pilot]

oke

[lusty grotto]

dht is pretty lax

[crystal mauve]

Send us a picture of the times key at the end! :>

[tribal wharf]

im just not a fan of fort dht cuz im bad

[grim pilot]

if I time it

I will like with wm

tbf I can just pop stream

for my failures

[tribal wharf]

end of the dungeon isnt so bad, the mushrooms im a little scared of, not scared of duo bears, not scared of fear bros not scared of jello men

[lusty grotto]

eh

i usually just wall into mushrooms

if they become a problem

they arent such a big deal

plus usually youre skipping keepers anyway

[grim pilot]

nvm

it ended on first boss

[lusty grotto]

let me guess

they werent dpsing adds

[grim pilot]

nah

u know how boss melees

closest target when he leaps back

I literally stood still on purpose

whenever he was leaping back

and they were still somehow dying

[lusty grotto]

i had no idea

it fervents?

[grim pilot]

I think so

the grievious leap

or w.e the name is

when he leaps back and someone dies

[lusty grotto]

OH

[grim pilot]

rogue died then sp was close enough and died then rogue died

[lusty grotto]

well yeah the leap itself cleaves

[grim pilot]

I think @warm plinth told me about it

or itamae

[warm plinth]

The leap doesn't cleave. It just hits the nearest target when he lands

[grim pilot]

yeah

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what i mean

[warm plinth]

Dps can still be monkey brained and move closer even if you don't move though

[lusty grotto]

thats why people should be spread

[warm plinth]

Dumb dumbs

[grim pilot]

every time

EVERY TIME

I take a step back

when I'm the dps

to be absolutely sure

as long as I cant hit the boss

[warm plinth]

Same and my melee dps is outlaw rogue lol

[grim pilot]

good news

it barely overkilled rogue on 27

so if I get outlaw for 26

it wont oneshot

👍

[warm plinth]

Big brain

[grim pilot]

I also frontaled like 3 people because I had to go out for the caster

because he was casting

for straight up 20 seconds

[winged slate]

That boss drives me crazy because they changed his frontal behavior after a week or two and my brain still thinks of the old one

[grim pilot]

from somewhere outside of my range

interrupt hard

brr

think I had 8 stacks of the dot

[tribal wharf]

i will attempt the new method in keys today and this week

[warm plinth]

Oh are you pulling trash into it?

[grim pilot]

naaah

I'm talking about 2nd pull

[tribal wharf]

and report back if its success

[warm plinth]

Oh lmao

Yeah people who just let ruiners spam cast tilt me hard

[lusty grotto]

to be fairrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[warm plinth]

Like can I get a fucking crumb of kicks

[tribal wharf]

if thats all it is this whole time 4 years, and all it is i have to charge less....

[warm plinth]

Well from a blocked hits perspective that's your problem.

[lusty grotto]

to be fair... they are usually really badly used to VDH/prot pally

[tribal wharf]

we will see i suppose

[warm plinth]

Heroic leap and charge are for travel. No using in combat (unless you need to leap to reset taunt for some reason)

[lusty grotto]

or i should say spoiled

[grim pilot]

also

haave they nerfed the ruiners?

says 2% on mdt

I swear it used to be like 5% or 10%

[lusty grotto]

uhh

not that i know of

[warm plinth]

It's 10% per stack

[grim pilot]

ah

says 2% on mdt

does mind soothe work on flowers?

[lusty grotto]

no but you can sleep walk

[warm plinth]

Was 2% in legion

[lusty grotto]

and other cc

[warm plinth]

Oh no I see what it is @grim pilot the m0 version is 2%, it's 10% only in m+

[grim pilot]

hm ok

ok I literally went over every single thing before I started the key

I gave 30 lines monologue

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[grim pilot]

I wanna time this shit into something 27

[lusty grotto]

i swear every single time

i do that

[grim pilot]

I'm not kidding

[lusty grotto]

it goes badly

[grim pilot]

it's legit like 30-40 lines

I talked about first boss

I talked about itnerrupting casters

about every single skip in the dungeon

[lusty grotto]

and every time i say nothing but "hello" it goes infinitely better

[grim pilot]

about every single pull

too hard to handle

https://tenor.com/view/special-dumb-dummy-gif-7068419121745449264

too much info

me dps

me heal

[lusty grotto]

lol

yea

too much for single brain cell

[warm plinth]

This just makes me think "thats right it goes in the square hole"

Na stable yet?

[grim pilot]

jesus

it happened again

first boss

[warm plinth]

Uh oh

[grim pilot]

really

I dont get it

[warm plinth]

Brain smol

[grim pilot]

people

were getting hit by it

consistently

[lusty grotto]

[frosty mango]

Kind of a dumb question probably - is there a reason the pulsing aura from rageheart doesn't work on dummies?

[warm plinth]

Bricked on boss 1?

[grim pilot]

yes

again somebody died very early

and idk why

[warm plinth]

Because dummies are fucking weird

[grim pilot]

we had no cr

someone used cr on trash

just when we started the key

[frosty mango]

well by extension it also doesn't show up in my sim

[grim pilot]

and we didnt have cr for boss

[warm plinth]

Lol

[grim pilot]

do I take ret

or ret

or ret

[warm plinth]

Very important to save that 5 second run

[grim pilot]

I mean to be absolutely fair

[lusty grotto]

ret is big dam now

[grim pilot]

I fucked up on the trash

I ass pulled a pack

[lusty grotto]

plus dispel

[warm plinth]

Smh

[lusty grotto]

from poisoners

[grim pilot]

and then idk why

[lusty grotto]

plus freedom for roots

[grim pilot]

but I couldnt get agro for 20 sec

after popping all my cds

[lusty grotto]

plus sac

plus bop for 1st boss bleed

plus brez

[warm plinth]

What was the comp?

[grim pilot]

ret sp aug

[lusty grotto]

you really cant go wrong with a ret on DHT

[warm plinth]

Weird

[grim pilot]

yeah I mean I'll prob take a ret

but it was funny

I listed the key

within 5 sec 6 rets applied

29 to 25

and going more

[lusty grotto]

isnt EU resetting soon?

[grim pilot]

in 3,5 hours

[tribal wharf]

after 20 i can now leave this accursed place

[lusty grotto]

id say its time to throw in the towel myrt

[tribal wharf]

unless i choose to exploit it for io

[lusty grotto]

uh huh

[grim pilot]

I mean

I'm not playing to up my key anymore

that was done the moment my key bricked from 27

[lusty grotto]

i swear yogi says and does the most random shit and every single time he does i have to say something

and i cant stop myself

[grim pilot]

only thing that'd be nice is EB

[tribal wharf]

its terrible and i should go for the raid trinkets intead right

[lusty grotto]

i need to work on my self control

[tribal wharf]

same conversation we have every patch

[lusty grotto]

"exploit for io" lol

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-dumb-and-dumber-whatever-fine-whatever-gif-gif-7892631202993336744

[winged slate]

Just look at bloodmallet you already know the answer to your question

[tribal wharf]

i never have the raid trinkets unless i get lucky from tw box cuz dont raid, and then if its bacon or something useful i actually use it

[lusty grotto]

why would you say raid trinkets

when you were farming a literal non-factor trinket

[tribal wharf]

cuz 98% of time its been raid trinkets

[lusty grotto]

its not even close to being good from all the keys

and from only keys

[grim pilot]

raid trinkets are kinda meh

rageheart is good

[blazing condor]

rageheart is cool

[grim pilot]

augury might be good? idk

but from keys

just take stonescales and ember

[blazing condor]

augury id run just cus i cba to run my brand

[grim pilot]

and you're more than fine

[lusty grotto]

ember is dogshit

[tribal wharf]

some nztoth thing and vitas, EP trinkets was amazing, i cant remember the good trinkets out of CN

[lusty grotto]

literally worse than what he farmed

[blazing condor]

from CN youd run spliter if you needed cheat

otherwise i dont think you really ran any trinket from CN

[tribal wharf]

9.1 .2 .3 was all raid trinkets, i know that, outside of when we had PF trinket

[grim pilot]

hm idk that well prot trinkets

I'm running branch and stonescales

oh wait rezan was pretty good

[blazing condor]

rezan is cool on tyr

[tribal wharf]

oh and the other side trinket

[lusty grotto]

rezan > mirror / sandglass / stonescales

thats it

[grim pilot]

stonescales might be useful for yogi

[lusty grotto]

hell even the tott str trinket

[grim pilot]

in case he accidentally stands in 2 or 3 swirlies

[tribal wharf]

butcher block my favorite i like it

[lusty grotto]

is better than any of what hes farmed so far

[blazing condor]

might of the ocean is super good for arms

[lusty grotto]

might of the ocean or w/e

[tribal wharf]

well i mean, its okay i guess, i could get rid of it something shiny comes around

[lusty grotto]

everything else besides those 5

is absolute instant vendor

dogshit

unless and only unless if you need any other for alt specs

but for prot only

it be like that

[warm plinth]

Nimchip rageheart when

[lusty grotto]

when dinars come out apparently

[tribal wharf]

these are the current trinkets i posses

[blazing condor]

tbh if i were you

[lusty grotto]

vendor all of them

[blazing condor]

id go stonescale and hourglass

[lusty grotto]

except blue one, hourglass and stonescales

there, you made... 500 gold or something idk

[blazing condor]

pog

[lusty grotto]

plus some good bagspace

for farming or idk

[tribal wharf]

ill just go do a racing wq and make 1k gold in 30 seconds

thx

[lusty grotto]

cool, you can make 1.5 then

if you do the race AND you vendor your shit trinkets

[tribal wharf]

well

it might be useful one day

[lusty grotto]

hoarder logic

[blazing condor]

hoarder mentality

[lusty grotto]

💯

[blazing condor]

☝️

[winged slate]

See the problem with that argument is that you have the writhing heart in there

and I promise that it will never be useful

[tribal wharf]

ill use the butcher block and hour glass for a while

see if i like it any, at least both go off on own

[blazing condor]

i mean its easy

you either sim it

or you go stonescales + whatever sims highest

if u worry about dying

[tribal wharf]

for 20 keys? ish?

[blazing condor]

bingo

[lusty grotto]

and the only reason ashes is crossed out is because its negative haste when it ends

[tribal wharf]

oh if i worry about dying, well, id like to get it on hero track, dont mind using as 476

[lusty grotto]

wait thats not right

[winged slate]

Isn't crab dece?

[lusty grotto]

crab is... okay

[blazing condor]

doesnt matter if its 450 or 489 if you play it for the cheat death

[lusty grotto]

but he has better

[winged slate]

I thought crab was strictly better than ocean

Especially if it's got 20 ilev

[lusty grotto]

yeah, i guess you might be right

[winged slate]

Like the RPPM must be higher on crab or something cause it doesn't look amazing on paper but it sims well I thought

[lusty grotto]

here we go

but honestly at 483 he can just farm a rezan

[winged slate]

Wowhead suggests procs for 20s every 80s

That's not too bad

[lusty grotto]

plus might is pretty fucking solid if he wants to dps

so hoarder logic might be okay there

[winged slate]

Assuming he presses it with coolies

[tribal wharf]

and play dps

[warm plinth]

Rip block 😢

[lusty grotto]

it had 4 tiers of glory

now its time to rest

it was a good boi

[tribal wharf]

fine you got your way

[winged slate]

Sell that heart of darkness

[lusty grotto]

[vestal moat]

Keep the trinkets if you want Yogi don't let them bully you.

Remember when Yogi spent a dinar in S4 SL to buy Barghast's Leash? I do.

[lusty grotto]

ROFL

i deleted that from my mind

[tribal wharf]

oh ya, i used it to torment some healers

evil arc

[grim pilot]

finally

deathless run till last boss

[lusty grotto]

good good

[grim pilot]

idk if I by dragging mob or someone

but we had ass pull

of keeper + dryad pack

[lusty grotto]

it is done

wait

[grim pilot]

fall 26

gaming?

[blazing condor]

for sure

[lusty grotto]

SO YOURE THE OTHER PERSON PLAYING ON 1080P like NAOWH

[blazing condor]

you guys dont play 1080p or what

[tribal wharf]

my game plays in 1440p and records in 1080p

[grim pilot]

that is

[lusty grotto]

SO YOURE THE THIRD PERSON PLAYING ON 1080P LIKE NAOWH

[blazing condor]

or idk i got 1920x1080 and like 2-3 graphics

[grim pilot]

a possiblity

[tribal wharf]

so i can get longer clips in terms of seconds

to upload for here

[blazing condor]

i mean i play whatever "standard" is

[tribal wharf]

cuz small restrction on file size

[grim pilot]

honestly

[lusty grotto]

the standard is 1440p

[grim pilot]

2nd boss

[blazing condor]

then i play 1440

[lusty grotto]

okay

[grim pilot]

was so fucking piss easy

lmao

[tribal wharf]

and most ppl use 1080p anwy

[grim pilot]

my cheat death procced once there because I didnt leap out or press anything for the first frontal

because

[lusty grotto]

whew dog you gave me a heart attack

[grim pilot]

it was bad overlap

20 adds from the roots + frontal

[blazing condor]

[grim pilot]

I tried to collect and rotate frontal away

so I took whole ass frontal to my face

[lusty grotto]

yeah 2nd boss is just prep

[grim pilot]

other than that

[lusty grotto]

its not as bad as.. deios

[grim pilot]

I swear to god

1st and 2nd grip

[tribal wharf]

2nd boss what dht

[grim pilot]

didnt even move my hp from 100%

[tribal wharf]

i like that tree boss fight

[lusty grotto]

well executed,

[grim pilot]

ok time to do some

giga pulls in fall

x)

[lusty grotto]

into boss

and then wipe to iridikron shield

[grim pilot]

na we dont go into boss

we're going whole area

[lusty grotto]

whole area into boss yes

[grim pilot]

naaaaaaaa

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

how do you expect me to believe, only 100 gold per person

i call bullshit

that things totally full of loot and gold

[winged slate]

Count em, only 100 in there

[grim pilot]

I'm streaming my prot adventures rn

x)

[blazing condor]

at the bottom you got all the loot

[grim pilot]

if you're bored nim

[blazing condor]

then its just a very thin top layer of coins

[tribal wharf]

thats something i would change if i was blizzard

if you beat the timer by +3 you get 500 gold per person, cuz you got there fast, nobody stole it, you deplete, you dont get as much

everyone stole the gold cuz you took too long

[blazing condor]

apply for a job at blizz

[lusty grotto]

maybe you should use a flying mount instead of the flight master

or ground mount rather

[blazing condor]

you must live on the east coast

like toronto

[opaque quest]

Mount could be 9999% speed and i'd still use the flightmaster so i can chill and do other stuff while traveling like cloths or brushing teeth

[strong forum]

I haven't used the flightmaster since SL

Dragonriding go brrrr

Everywhere in 20sec

Is too good

[tribal wharf]

50/50 on flight master

[strong forum]

I don't even use dungeon portals anymore

[tribal wharf]

sometimes use, sometimes no

[strong forum]

Cuz flying takes literally 20s

But I can use the teleport to get out mid dungeon and respec for X bosses

[opaque quest]

I always forget i got portals

[blazing condor]

i got that WA so you can just press the dungeons in the mythic tab

makes it easier

[opaque quest]

Happen to have a link?

[lusty grotto]

i have linked it here before

[blazing condor]

i got the string

not the link on wago

[tribal wharf]

if you pull the pig, there is nothing you can do except wipe?

cant despawn it somehow

the boss

[lusty grotto]

https://wago.io/AxN3RkMOG

is it that one?

WA > select WA > info

has the url

usually

[blazing condor]

oh didnt know

just closed down wow

well they all work the same

im sure Nim's is also good

[lusty grotto]

yeah true

ive had a few different ones cause on season change they get borked

[opaque quest]

Pog. Thanks kings

[grim pilot]

fall 26

into fall 25

[blazing condor]

it fell

[opaque quest]

Youre doing 20s. Just kill it

[tribal wharf]

raal sorry

the boss

[blazing condor]

yeah u cant reset it really

[opaque quest]

Ya i know youre talking about the fat fuck pig boss

[blazing condor]

maybe with meld or vanish

[opaque quest]

Just murder it. He does nothing

But also

S U C C U L E N T

[blazing condor]

all staff to the kitched 😄

[tribal wharf]

it was more i was clearing out the trash and pulled it somehow

but we timed i guess

[blazing condor]

thats why you usually pull the trash outside

[lusty grotto]

what happened this time

[grim pilot]

giga low st

[lusty grotto]

ah

[grim pilot]

3rd boss

[lusty grotto]

like i said

[grim pilot]

wiped on like

20%

and then another time

it took 4:40

and then people didnt have pot for skip

[tribal wharf]

whats something we have that can go off cause an aoe on heroic throw lmao

[lusty grotto]

wait

third boss?!

[grim pilot]

I went big pulls, should be 2chested tbf

[grim pilot]

ye 3rd boss

[lusty grotto]

no iridikron shield?

the fuck

[grim pilot]

didnt get there

also tbf corrosion slaps

even tanks

or pwar at least

I didnt die or proc but damn it hurts

[lusty grotto]

eh

[tribal wharf]

im not sure wtf, but when i heroic throwed the other side, something seemed to explode dmg aoe and i pulled the boss

[lusty grotto]

spell block

[opaque quest]

Pog man is holding down RMB

[tribal wharf]

blazing rage

[grim pilot]

yeah

I use spell block for the dot

[lusty grotto]

corrotion hits for babby numbers

[grim pilot]

but outside of that

[lusty grotto]

like i barely notice it

[grim pilot]

is does pretty colourful dam

[tribal wharf]

thats my helmet aint it

[lusty grotto]

but of course people that arent tanks (or night elves) are gonna get dicked

[grim pilot]

ye we had 1 nelf

only

ok I got invite to eb 27 as dps

I'll get like 10 rio since my eb is 24 on tyra

after that maybe some prot keys

[tribal wharf]

ya i need to know where the comes from

[grim pilot]

think this eb puts me in the cutoff

[lusty grotto]

i wish i liked dpsing keys

but i dont

raids are poggers

i just rather tank

[tribal wharf]

i wonder if that was just bad rng or if i can control that in the future

[lusty grotto]

so my warrior always has pure tank io

[grim pilot]

raid tanking

is such a snoozefest

[opaque quest]

I despise dpsing keys on my warr but i love it on my DK

Cause uncapped aoe goes brr

[grim pilot]

its fun if you do it once every 6 weeks

[lusty grotto]

i meant i just rather tank keys

[grim pilot]

and even then

its boring after first 5 bosses

[opaque quest]

Prot is just more fun in keys than arms/fury

[warm plinth]

Juicy vault for woyer today
DH: myth track legs to replace hero
Mage: tokens
Hunter: tokens
Druid: myth gloves to replace hero
Warrior: myth tier helm to replace 441 from last season :keks:
Paladin: myth ring sidegrade (haste vs no haste)
Rogue: socketed myth wrists to replace hero

[grim pilot]

meh I enjoy arms a lot

[lusty grotto]

i like arms

in raid

[opaque quest]

I'd maybe enjoy arms if rage mattered again

[lusty grotto]

i dont ever like to dps as a warrior in keys

[opaque quest]

Also cleave bah

[lusty grotto]

ever

literally

the only season where my io wasnt pure tank

the only one

was SL S1

and you know why

[grim pilot]

I dont

I started playing in df

Im guessing arms was v good

[lusty grotto]

cause SL S1 was fucking aids

for prot

[tribal wharf]

i had a green shield for most of 9.0

[opaque quest]

I bought SL 2 months late, then got curve in 2 weeks after buying the xpac then i stopped until DF

Good addon ngl

CN was pog at least kekW

[lusty grotto]

literally the only good thing (aside from.. eventually, banner play)

[opaque quest]

ya

[tribal wharf]

shadowlands wasnt really that terrible,

its pretty bad

[lusty grotto]

yes it fucking was

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/bloodcartier-gif-25860033

You

[tribal wharf]

im not so sure

torghast was something totally new, even though it ended up being bad

[lusty grotto]

that doesnt make it good

[opaque quest]

new doesnt mean good

[warm plinth]

Idk I thought Torghast was awesome

[tribal wharf]

it could have been good

the potential was there

[grim pilot]

ok we got a pretty decent group

surely this is timed

I depleted 28 on last boss on 30%

[tribal wharf]

if yogi is in there leave group

[grim pilot]

on tyra

[tribal wharf]

he depletes keys

[grim pilot]

yogi is NA

[opaque quest]

Remove another layer. Remove every power gain from it. Make it a cosmetic paradise. Fixed

[grim pilot]

unless he's owner of blizz

yogi wont show up in my key

[tribal wharf]

how do you know that its not me and i have secret account

and am 3k in eu

[grim pilot]

because yogi pushes 20's in NA

he wont push 20's in eu too

[warm plinth]

The powers were the fun part

[opaque quest]

God

The chain link from DK

In corridors doing a milion dps lol

They shared all damage between targets hit by ice chains but when you stacked it you could multiply the damage by 150%

And it counted group damage too

[tribal wharf]

thats first time i encountered that interaction

good to know how it works more or less, know it can happen now

[warm plinth]

LADIES AND GENTLEMEN

SAY CONGRATS TO OUR NEW (THANK GOD) WOWHEAD WRITER

@strong forum

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

Who leaked

[warm plinth]

Your mom

[vestal moat]

grats Nom, well deserved

[lusty grotto]

dn

[warm plinth]

I was told it's official and I could talk about it now

[strong forum]

It is

And thank you

[lusty grotto]

congrats

is llarold done with warrior?

[warm plinth]

Yes, and brew

[lusty grotto]

oh

[warm plinth]

Sinzhu is the new brew writer

[lusty grotto]

F

[strong forum]

Llarold went out with a bang

🫡

[lusty grotto]

respect

[warm plinth]

Plot twist: Nome leaked it to me

(he didn't)

[opaque quest]

Uh pog

Was Llarold fired because of the Prot pala rant?

[lusty grotto]

eh

lincoln was prot pala though

or what do you mean

[opaque quest]

The WoWhead post about prot warr that got removed

[strong forum]

I mean

[lusty grotto]

oh i didnt see it but

[strong forum]

Think about it

[lusty grotto]

why wouldnt he rant though

[blazing condor]

L-arold

Also gz nom well deserved u been poppin off this xpac

[opaque quest]

It was a prot warr post that containted the word pala more times than warr

Yeah nome deserves it big time

[lusty grotto]

thats fine but im sure he had his reasons

[strong forum]

You write a Review of an expansion, it gets launched, worldwide people get the news, and has to be taken down 40min later

That does put some things in motion

Even if you do not have a prior record

[warm plinth]

Llarold has had complaints on his guides for a long time

This was coming eventually

[blazing condor]

All it takes is one bad day

[lusty grotto]

but ranting in wowhead isnt anything new

[opaque quest]

Ye saw the writing on the wall. Just thought this was the drop that broke the barrel

[opaque quest]

Ofcourse not but that post was bad. Like real bad

[lusty grotto]

like leggo buffs have all come from rants

[warm plinth]

I mean when the article is supposed to be about prot warrior and the entire article is why aren't we prot paladins, it's not really doing what it was intended for.

[strong forum]

I don't intend to talk bad about llarold he's a fun dude

[warm plinth]

Yeah but compare Mandl's very well written and explanatory articles about the legendary

vs just a literal rant

[strong forum]

But it did seem like a "get me the fuck out" post

[opaque quest]

Nobody is bashing Llarolds person here

[warm plinth]

No, I've heard he's a great dude

[tribal wharf]

i never saw that thing whatever it was

too lazy too look it up

[strong forum]

You can't

[tribal wharf]

will forget by time i care

[opaque quest]

It got removed real fast. Not sure if it was the 40 mins like nome said

But it was fast

[lusty grotto]

i actually respect llarold more now that i know all of this

[tribal wharf]

wayback machine but sure lol

if i really wanted

[strong forum]

No point bothering

[opaque quest]

Not sure. That post was good in pushing peeps away from warr

Imagine being a new guy and want to play warr and you read that post

[tribal wharf]

thats my point, ya, not worth lookin

[opaque quest]

"Guess im going pink" 😄

[lusty grotto]

well we're not warrior advertisers either

[winged slate]

Wayback only works if it got snapshotted

Which I doubt

[tribal wharf]

The internet does not forget

just the world we live in

[lusty grotto]

i kinda think i get what youre saying rooach

[opaque quest]

Youre right too ofcourse. We arent walking ads

[lusty grotto]

all im saying is... its okay to have criticism

moreso on a site like WH

that has exposure

not to the point of propagating popular belief

but

[opaque quest]

Criticism wouldve been fine but he went 13/10 lol

[lusty grotto]

keeping it real kind of

[opaque quest]

It doesnt matter its past

https://tenor.com/view/crying-happy-but-sad-face-gif-19422780

It was this

[lusty grotto]

thats more than fine

but yeah im glad he went out with a bang

+1 respect from nim

[opaque quest]

Now im torn

I love bicepspump as my writer

But nome is pretty cool

[warm plinth]

Nome is only the prot war writer, not warrior in general

[opaque quest]

I only play prot

[warm plinth]

wdym about biceps then?

[opaque quest]

Biceps only writes frost/uh

The speccs i play

[warm plinth]

Well, I hate to tell you my friend

But Biceps does not write either of those anymore

[opaque quest]

Wait what

[warm plinth]

khazak writes frost, taeznak writes uh

[opaque quest]

Do you know why by chance?

I didnt see anything about that in my feed on youtube from bicep

[warm plinth]

I don't know. Just knew he wasn't doing it anymore

[opaque quest]

Meh

Well as long as he keeps the yt channel going ig

Friendship with Bicep has ended. Nome is my new writer now

[warm plinth]

lol

[grim kestrel]

heya guys, is pip worth for prot wars? my vault this week kinda sux so idk what to get x-x

[strong forum]

You prefer raw dmg proc trinkets

Over stat procs

[opaque quest]

If you want nothing else you can get pips for dps but not for prot

[strong forum]

If you don't offspec arms/fury, you're better off with a socket

[strong forum]

Tried to push lots of feelycrafting

AFAIK

There was a long history of push back against biceps

[grim kestrel]

okayy thank you 😄

[strong forum]

Behind closed doors ofc

[grim kestrel]

I think I m getting the tier gloves, looking better x-x

[opaque quest]

Ye i imagine. Feelycraft complains make sense since thats what hes been doing on youtube for years. Didnt know he was doing it on WH

Ive been talking to Taez on Acherus before. Hes a cool dude

[strong forum]

Whatever makes you feel best about your choice, it's a game at the end of the day

[grim kestrel]

sure, a I was a bit confused cuz a friend said that pip could probably be the best option but I dont feel comfortable with that xD

[lusty grotto]

probably cause just about every looks for pip

everyone else, i mean

[opaque quest]

I bet his friend is a dps main

And DPS mains looove pip

[lusty grotto]

depends

[grim kestrel]

he's a mage xD

[lusty grotto]

caster dps pip is good

or decent

like my ret paladin doesnt give a shit about it

[opaque quest]

Knew it

[opaque quest]

Its bis for UH/Frost too

[lusty grotto]

my warrior on any spec doesnt give a shit about it unless i get a mythic version and then i might consider for arms council cleave

my DH on any spec does not give a shit about it

[tribal wharf]

what makes the counterweight trinket mostly and partially the raid haste trinket, i know thats bad, but is it worse than 463 might, so bad

[lusty grotto]

i guess casters kinda do give a shit about it and belaros

[grim kestrel]

I m using the fyrak and cheat death trinket, both are looking really good rn

[opaque quest]

Dont use Cheat Death

[grim pilot]

pips

[opaque quest]

Are you doing 30s?

[grim pilot]

is v good for dps

in keys

[opaque quest]

Take pips then

lol

[grim pilot]

cheat death is good for pushing keys

not necessarily 30's

[lusty grotto]

nom already answered him

[opaque quest]

Dude is using LFR trinkets. Why does he need cheat death for 20s and LFR? :>

Just guessing here ofcourse

[grim pilot]

just saying in case someone who's doing 24-25 comes in

and gets confused

[grim kestrel]

I m doing 20s and looking confused xD

[opaque quest]

Yeye youre right im just extrapolating from the data i have and make guesses

[grim pilot]

it didnt proc in any of my keys unless I majorly fucked up

which is 27-28

[grim kestrel]

thats why I asked

[opaque quest]

Dont use cheat death for 20s. Unless youre turning your back to mobs for 25 seconds straight you wont die. Farm a rezan trinket for your second slot with fyrakk trinkie

[grim kestrel]

okie

[tribal wharf]

disaster has struck and the butcher block came back and is equipped after sell it, wtf.

[warm plinth]

It's cursed

[winged slate]

We all knew you would buy it back

You weren't fooling anyone

[tribal wharf]

too powerful to be sold or somethin
(you werent supposed to click this which ruins the surprise that i vendored 476 and not 483 one)

welk fuck

but ya

[winged slate]

Just put on your good trinkets, I believe in you

[opaque quest]

Yogi has no bad trinkets

Its yogi after all

[tribal wharf]

egg and mushroom and heart and versa silence thing used 1 time total

[opaque quest]

Talking about lunch now?

[tribal wharf]

yes there is bad trinkets

i duno real name but 10.1 mini rocket launcher

greiftorcgh

dog shit, have to aim circle and channel,
imma head out now

[warm plinth]

wat

You don't aim grieftorch 🤔

It hits your target

[tribal wharf]

u had to select a green circle on floor no?

[warm plinth]

nope

[tribal wharf]

cuz it woukd do aoe i thought

[warm plinth]

It had the possibility to splash from the target, but it did not have guaranteed aoe

[tribal wharf]

i didnt like it at any rate

[opaque quest]

Grieftorch was dope

[tribal wharf]

rather it would lock you into the cast of it and only thing removes you cast is cc

[opaque quest]

Gonna be bis again next season

Beacon tho

[tribal wharf]

well see what happens, naybe rubybetter higher ilvl

[opaque quest]

Next season is season of the rehash

So we get beacon AND torch

[tribal wharf]

already had my fun with bacon and 1 shot wq mobs for whole expansion

im sated for op trinkets

no, i dont do the 2 9n use trinket thing unless its special like font

probably get bacon then shield then pepega, dunn9 when it comes even

[opaque quest]

Just use augury

I cant wait to have to use puzzle box again omfg

Most annoying trinket of all time

[opal forum]

are the stats of that item comparable to other rings at same ilv or the 2p is there to compensate?

[warm plinth]

The effect does not consume stat budget. It's separate.

[opal forum]

ok thanks

[opaque quest]

Ring and trinket is pretty pog for stuff like resto sham if you dont have access to raid stuff

At least it was in BFA im sure its still the same

[warm plinth]

You're pretty pog

[opaque quest]

[lusty grotto]

@dusky canopy did you get it?

[dusky canopy]

I will let you know tonight, I always pug it after raid at 11

doubtful

[lusty grotto]

prayge

[dusky canopy]

I'm so close to not caring anymore

so if it aint this week idk man

lol

[lusty grotto]

NO!

never give up

[dusky canopy]

you got yours finally?

[lusty grotto]

btw augury dropped

but i dont know if im getting it

[dusky canopy]

fuck I hope you get it

deserved and earned!

[lusty grotto]

its very small dps increase for my arms

signet + myth gnarl thing

branch or w/e

[dusky canopy]

Low key

I want a myth branch

thing kinda slaps on short heroic fights

[lusty grotto]

still sims higher on 5 min for me for some reason

on ST

than like

rezan or w/e

[dusky canopy]

I hear its pretty big ye

I have a 483

I havent even bothered simming since it isnt myth

I wonder how it does against signet

specially on short bosses

[lusty grotto]

like i swap between rezan and signet on kill times

but branch does better in sims than augury for some reason

not by a lot though

[dusky canopy]

I think augury sims poorly because its an average right

you can rng an insane pull with it

and itll own everything else

[lusty grotto]

yeah branch just benefits from damage amps too

i think

[dusky canopy]

yo i actually dont know!

thats kinda pog if it does

[lusty grotto]

well ive assumed it does lmao

but im not 100% sure

[lusty grotto]

the ddos dcs just fucked our augury drop lol

or so they are saying

[waxen cradle]

well that's fucked now the internet is trying to keep you from that trinket ?

they really need to add other TWing raids for TWing weeks, it really does feel useless to ever timewalk any week for a alt except on BC, Wrath of Cata weeks

throw in a MoP or WoD TWing raid let us go and farm garroshs shoulders

[lusty grotto]

not stressed over augury

ill get it eventually

[lusty grotto]

yeah it got effd

LOL

oh well

[left basalt]

better late than never

[lusty grotto]

nice gz!

[left basalt]

🙂

[median tulip]

Welp, now I have all the sockets...

The only upgrades I can get from anywhere are:
Mythic Fyrakk Weapon and Trinkets
Mythic Smolderon Trinket
Myth track legs (Gnarlroot, Larodar or Vault)

I think I'm done for the season TBQH

[toxic pewter]

Next season needs to start already

I swear this season has felt longer to me for some reason lol

[winged slate]

It's because you know we're not getting any content until september or something

[dusky canopy]

[hardy ridge]

So close brew!

[dusky canopy]

[dusky canopy]

@lusty grotto

https://tenor.com/view/raise-eyebrow-sexy-flirt-gif-6116268

[pallid quiver]

oh shoot, it is a new week, i should look into maybe trying again

[wintry nymph]

just to be disappointed again?

[pallid quiver]

hard to be disappointed when I mostly only queue up to try my luck while playing other things

i have no actual investment in it, so it's like gambling on someone else's dime

[safe heron]

3 2 handed weapons

that is so unfortunate

[tall ginkgo]

guys i main fury and have to sub in as prot for m smolderon plz give me tips and tricks

[jagged pier]

dont die

press your buttons

no your not pressing them enough

use spell block for the move mechanic

[tall ginkgo]

do i hold shield wall for when i run out or just use it on cd for as much anger management cdr as possible

[jagged pier]

no u save SW

if u have to do the run out and u dont have spell block available

it can happen

[tall ginkgo]

ty, does it block all the dmg?

spell block

[jagged pier]

thats not how blocking works

[tall ginkgo]

XD

[jagged pier]

its just a reduction

like SW

[tall ginkgo]

i wasnt sure coz it doesnt say how much reduction it gives like spell reflect does

[jagged pier]

it gives more

but u can SR it as well if u want

if u get lucky and get a crit block

it can mitigate 100% because it has no cap on blocking magic damage

if it was physical it would cap at 85% reduction

[tall ginkgo]

tyvm

[tender phoenix]

Can I ask quickly but does Spell Block not overlap SB (sometimes ur hit with both damage types mainly in M+)

I ask cus in my brain Spell Block makes SB work with Magic and phys. Or have I simply taken the read the ability text wrong?

[jagged pier]

if u have spell block up it doesnt stop u blocking physical attacks

it just means u now also block magic stuff u can block

[tender phoenix]

So its best to have both if both damages will hit you in that gap?

[jagged pier]

its not a question of ither or