hey what addon or WA is that on the left that shows your stats?
#protection
cinder marsh
cinder marsh
ty
urban bane
in pugs i've been dropping sidearm for the improved heroic throw. helps a ton with burst aggro for pull setup. surprised i dig it as much as i do
cinder marsh
what about the party frames on the right???
urban bane
looks like standard wowui to me 🤷♂️
warm plinth
Yeah pretty sure that's just the "raid style party frames" on the default UI
warm plinth
ElvUI has its own unit frames
cinder marsh
ik but its not showing
warm plinth
Are you in a party?
cinder marsh
i was just in a party i made myself just to test it but yea,,, still dont see the party frames
cinder marsh
found it thanks
nocturne relic
any SoD players willing to share the talents they are using for P2? new to classic tanking, understand a lot of the threat comes from the arms tree but surprised to see little/no mitigation in the builds I've seen so far
hardy snow
I've got some good SS procs on volcoross today 
warm plinth
mythic?
hardy snow
yea
lusty grotto
any SoD players willing to share the talents they are using for P2? new to class...
this channel is for retail, skyhold doesnt have SoD channels but try asking in #general i guess?
id say skyhold in general is for retail
nocturne relic
this channel is for retail, skyhold doesnt have SoD channels but try asking in <...
thx for the info! sorry
lusty grotto
no worries
i have no idea which disc keeps SoD data but classic info was usually on Fight Club
might wanna check there
its a rough disc though so care
warm plinth
Could also try #vanilla-discussion @nocturne relic
since SoD is technically vanilla with extra steps
solemn current
Is this implying that Shockwave was triggering the melee attack AoE damage from Battle Senses or enemies hit from shockwave weren't supposed to accrue stacks? Latter would seem like a huge bug.
knotty pewter
yeah its confusing. im assuming its the former although i never noticed that actually happening
needing to bait shockwaves seems like an intended mechanic. would be weird if all this time it actually wasnt
opaque quest
its a rough disc though so care
I feel like all the other wow discords are rough compared to the prot channel lol
Its because prot warrs all have cats. How can cat dads be mean
opaque quest
Exceptions proove the rule 
lusty grotto
usually bad discs are the ones filled with meta rerollers and/or RBGs... anything that pulls in flavor of the month is acid
and SoD is currently very fotm
since the new season is coming or happening idk
solemn current
yeah its confusing. im assuming its the former although i never noticed that act...
Yea I tested it’s the former. Guess the only benefit to the bug fix is the healer isn’t having to be stressed while dodging frontals.
lusty grotto
classic discs in general are absolutely horrible cause its either extremely old classic andies that are garbage human beings or just extremely new or younger players that never played the game when it was released
btw rooach looking for jormuntide ignis shinies is fucking aids
im still missing artisan and serious
opaque quest
Do you want one for cakes? Dont bother. It will get stuck every 2 minutes and dont do anything
lusty grotto
cakes and forge
opaque quest
Rather take a smaller one that doesnt get stuck and works
lusty grotto
well im currently breeding craft speed monsters
so jormie ignis is one of them
already did normal jormies and lyleens
and anubis obv
opaque quest
What are the lyleens for
opaque quest
Isnt verdash better for that?
opaque quest
This is my cake boi. He doesnt get stuck all the time. Jormuntide is defo a bit faster but i hate baby sitting
Thats why i got 3 
Just checked. Lyleen instantly got stuck on a roof. Its ridiculous. Im sure when they fix the AI and pathing i will have to redo all my base pals and go for the big boi fast versions
opaque quest
Oh ye makes sense to go for big bois then. I dont have a farm base rn
lusty grotto
the good thing about lyleens is that lyleen noct is 24/7
lusty grotto
it doesnt
opaque quest
Do you use here for gathering?
lusty grotto
yea
opaque quest
Aight
Thats why i got my verdashs. Jacks of all trades. Sadly dont work at night but i skip them anyways with my bed
lusty grotto
frostallion noct 🙂
but i havent really bred those, aside from getting one
via breeding ofc
opaque quest
It took me 3 days to get my fighter frostallion i dont wanna do it again 
Noct only has gathering too. I dont have enough plantations to make that worth. Instead of 1 or 2 noct i just have 3 verdashs that also lumber and plant in their downtime. Noct might make sense when verdash get sidetracked to much but like lumbering for charcoal/ammo
lusty grotto
1 frostallion noct, 1 normal lyleen will do everything by themselves
less pals you need to have on base
full crafting speed passives
1 jormie normal for watering
opaque quest
Ye but then i still need lumbering pals and it comes out to 0/0
lusty grotto
oh
opaque quest
Right now i am at a point where all i do is legy pals so my only expense is ammo pretty much
quartz coral
does being in defensive stance reduce the damage your spell reflect does?
lusty grotto
no
quartz coral
ty
lusty grotto
yeah im only doing leggos
and
blazamut cause
i dont heve the legendary schem yet
for the AR
opaque quest
Blaza took me well over 50 tries with triple appereance rate
opaque quest
Dont have rocket either yet. Missing heat resis armor too
lusty grotto
cool just found a serious ignis
opaque quest
Dont make me breed one too to replace my teostra from wish
Just checked. I need serious for a jormuntide and all 4 for jor ignis
lusty grotto
yeah im missing lucky and artisan now
lusty grotto
yeah it is
i just wonder what people do to farm them
i just fly out a bit and back in so the pals respawn
opaque quest
I just start going up and down the isle and slaughter everything
lusty grotto
ooh artisan
opaque quest
lets go
lusty grotto
😦
lusty grotto
a fucking incineram noct killed it
it agroed on me and did fireball and got the ignis with it 😦
opaque quest
Nimchips villain arc just started
One of the things about this game i hate the most if how even legendary spheres only give me 25% on a lvl45
opal forum
hi everyone, i was doing waycrest and ended up missing 1%, and I really feel like i did get everything on my route, is MDT not up to date with % ? Or do you think i missed some sort of pats? (i made sure to get the pallid gorger in the hallway of 3rd boss) Do any of you have an idea of what i might be doing wrong?
lusty grotto
you might have missed the patrol
opal forum
wich one?
lusty grotto
on pull 6
lusty grotto
either way i dont do this route
tyrannical week you invis to witches, lust them
i dont do pull 1
opal forum
i mean, im comfortable with this route, if i start having issue ill switch
lusty grotto
well it depends on your key level
opal forum
for the moment its working fine for me, just did my best key
i just did a 23 +2
on this very one
on the one missing de 1%
lusty grotto
thats fine for a 23
youre wasting a lust on first pull but the timer is forgiving enough
lusty grotto
which boss
lusty grotto
you can but you can also do them after
that boss isnt a joke, so its better if you dont waste kicks on other shit
opal forum
thats what i feel, very kick heavy
maybe once 1 witch is down
i can start pulling the sides
lusty grotto
right, with a team its easy cause you can just play stops on the 2 casters
and then just kick non-active witch as normal
opal forum
yeaa
and in pug they like to kick the things targeting the prot war for some reason
keep wasting my spell reflect
lusty grotto
they should never kick the active one regardless of tank
they only cast on the tank
opal forum
well
lusty grotto
thats not a problem at all for any tank
opal forum
they didnt get the memo
opal forum
what keys are you doing?
lusty grotto
lusting first pull is usually the best
on tyr, invis to boss and lust
on fort, go straight left and ignore those first mobs and lust runeweavers
opal forum
yeah, ill probably do that when things will get harder
i dont super trust people with invis pot
so i try to do it as least as possible
and right now i dont need it
they end up dying and they respawn and get stuck
lusty grotto
shouldnt be a problem in pugs
the invis pot, you just tell them they should and go up the stairs and left
if they pull something its not fort so its easy to kill
most pugs i tell to invis pot, do it correctly
as opposed to kicking the right witch
thats kind of hard for them i guess
opal forum
do they even have the pots in 23
lusty grotto
idk about right now but most people are prepared, and if they arent they can hearth and get summoned back or AH mount
opal forum
true
lusty grotto
its the latter half of the season so there might be a lot more unprepared folks at that level but shrug
opal forum
20 is the worse cuz its full of clueless people who think they are good cuz they do raid, and they tryna get their vault
i have more succes in 23 then 20 by extremely far
lusty grotto
yeah but 20s have very forgiving timers anyway
opal forum
they would litteraly not know any mechanic and die on repeat till they leave
lusty grotto
it be like that
opal forum
like on the first miniboss of RISE
wont move at the orb cast
they will die 5 times and still not move
anyway, thanks for the tips, im gonna try to get that 25
opaque quest
@lusty grotto Got lucky yet?
lusty grotto
nah ill try later this week
opaque quest
covert flower
20 is the worse cuz its full of clueless people who think they are good cuz they...
I think the 20-23 range is the same level of shit across the board
Also the crest system is completely responsible for this
opal forum
i feel like the people trying to do the vault will mostly look for 20 groups
between 23 and 25 i can rly see that in average, people are trying more
covert flower
People are getting their 11s + 3d into 14s, 14s +3d into 17s, then some carries need a specific hero track piece so boom you have that 17 +3d
Suddenly an 11 key player has a 20 key
opal forum
i just assumed it was a vault problem
covert flower
Because carries need to run shit keys to progress their gear
18s for vault? Nice, people who had boosted 18s now have 21s
opal forum
yeah i had to do that too
covert flower
Because good players wanna get their vault done and log off some weeks
opal forum
but i run my own keys
since i dont have amazing ilv
and i wont ever get invited in the key that i run myself
so i do feel like im getting raiders who are just farming vault but dont actually know what to do cuz they dont care
but sometimes i get 3 people like that
covert flower
So I'm a 26 player, not crazy but within the top 1%, I know if I run a 22-23 there's almost a guarantee it's a +2 if the group doesn't just die to random shit
The amount of times I've ended one of those +2 and then like
opal forum
does it get better in 26?
covert flower
Group lead died a shit load or, did tank dps or
And then we +2 a 23 and I think
What have I done dude
I've just released that guy into a 25
opaque quest
does it get better in 26?
You either draw good people or you dont. Make sure to check realms before you invite
Dont invite french people
Dont invite italians
covert flower
26 is definitely better across the board
opaque quest
Dont invite from alliance realms
covert flower
People have game plans at 26
covert flower
Tactics/routes discussed more
Dude Latin America is growing on me I think
It's a lower key thing
opaque quest
No. Ragnaros and Kael Thas fucking sucks
covert flower
The ragnaros/quel'thalas and nemesis players I run with are often fine
opaque quest
Like i said. You either get good players or you dont but there are reasons these realms are blacklisted on M+ discords
opaque quest
If being racist increases my chance to complete keys intime then so be it ngl
covert flower
No it's not racist like there is definitely the stereotype for a reason I just think it falls off as you go up the ladder from my personal experience
I felt it a lot 15-21ish
opaque quest
Ye if you get 3.6k players they tend to know what they need to do. But there are way less players from specific realms on high IO
opal forum
sounds like bias to me
covert flower
Like I've ran with a good deal of 3300-3400 Latin American players who are just on it and end up doing the best
I don't even think about it when inviting at this point now
covert flower
Reckon it could be you're so adamant on it you don't give them the chance to prove you wrong?
opal forum
no it just show his personnal opinion of different race and it makes him bias in the game
covert flower
I mean in general anybody doing keys over 20s kinda wants to time the key no? There's no reward besides bragging rights and nobody's time is worth nothing
opal forum
delusional to think otherwise
opaque quest
Reckon it could be you're so adamant on it you don't give them the chance to pro...
The guy im playing with the most is french and i just said i avoid french
opaque quest
no it just show his personnal opinion of different race and it makes him bias in...
Oh youre a psychologist
opal forum
3/4 of my family is but im not
opaque quest
You guys do you. Ill keep avoiding different realms. If you wanna deplete thats fine
gleaming pike
Avoid players from sanguino to:P
covert flower
Think my deplete chance recently has had nothing to do with realm and solely to do with group performance, as long as I can remember
opaque quest
Yea and ragnaros
gleaming pike
haha
opaque quest
We had a discussion about this a few days ago and we all agreed on some realms. But i guess thats racist
covert flower
Pretty sure they just don't give a fuck
opaque quest
Its not culture. Its statistics. Its math. Its numbers. Go to RIO and check the top 500 realms and make a list
covert flower
But nobody's time is free dude people aren't out here running keys to fuck about
gleaming pike
True
opaque quest
But nobody's time is free dude people aren't out here running keys to fuck about
This
covert flower
That applies to them too
gleaming pike
When I brick 2-3 keys I just logoff not my evening 😛
covert flower
U think they're sitting down to run a key with the intention of just inting it and leaving?
opaque quest
Thats why i do vetting before the key. Served me well
opaque quest
U think they're sitting down to run a key with the intention of just inting it a...
Mate idc why do they what they do. Its not my business to babysit
People seem to forget that M+ is a competetive environment. If you wanna make friends ask in valdrakken
covert flower
Who said anything about that aha you're acting like you're a different species from them dude
We all want to time the keys we run including those players XD
gleaming pike
I was running a key with a dude last night. 2 of the dps in the grp were doing approx. 300k overall. the other guys I am sure he wanted to time the key but he was on approx. 120k dps overall (below the tank). But if you throw that dps towards the group... I just think you're a selfish player to hold up other peoples time
If you need practice etc. all fine just do a few lower keys and get used to things
thats how I roll normally
opaque quest
No. Youre racist and think youre better than them if you dont carry for free
People expect to get carried or youre toxic
opal forum
ur such a clown
gleaming pike
Aye!
covert flower
Like is this an issue of attitude or an issue of play with them
Cause I hard disagree on play if that's what you're saying
Rating is rating and unless you're running with legit people like 3-4 key levels ahead of you, you're not just getting astro carried through these keys
You need to do decent enough DPS to beat timer and on top of that you need to not spam die
They're not timing keys and gaining score otherwise
opaque quest
I am german and its the germans too. I wont invite people from aegwynn and blacmoore but nice try to drag this discussion into racism. Its amazing
You guys should work at sweetbaby inc
covert flower
Like I'm 3300, is a 3400 Latin American player better than me? Absolutely
A decent bit better
opaque quest
How can you guys be so mad because i dont invite everybody. Hilarious
opal forum
i dont care what you do
opaque quest
Why are you arguing then?
opal forum
but i dont remember asking wich nationality to avoid
opaque quest
Avoid players from sanguino to:P
Are you playing on EU? I also avoid sanguino
Or does NA have one too
gleaming pike
EU
Alltho I have good experience with germans tho:P
always prefer to get germans in... some are sweaty
But ye I also do some realm picking
but its multiple factors
I look m up
etc
opaque quest
We are lol. We do a job well or we do it twice so we prefer to onlys do it once lol
opaque quest
I look m up
I started to look at logs for higher keys. Especially the "used a health potion and personal before dying" part
opaque quest
tbh i rather spend time before the key instead of wasting resources and depleting so its fine 
gleaming pike
I am not the best atm myself as I am playing warrior not to long... so I rather not be to picky rn 😛
ye true
but earlier this season when I was playing around 3300 I also had a group of friends to play with every evening
but they stopped
gleaming pike
ye thats really sad.... I enjoy m+ so much more with friends
ye can try
I prob have to wait till s4
opaque quest
Same. Having at least 1 friend in the key with you is 101908234ß02389ß231x more fun
Because you can shittalk kek
thorny stone
If you are from Europe, you are racist by default, doesn't matter which country or when you read this, you will hate at least another country on europe
obtuse cloak
Hating another country does not mean you're racist
obtuse cloak
No it doesnt depend, Country and Race are completely different
opaque quest
I hate america for example
Anti abortion
Driving while on the phone
No car safety inspections
Americans are okay tho
TL:DR There is a lot of nuance involved
blazing condor
weirdest part about american culture (besides shooting people all the time) is that ppl drive without seat belts
and also have shoes on inside their house and in their beds
especially when the homes have carpets covering the entire floor
opaque quest
I never understood the whole carpet thing. We just have pvc and wood
Also shoes inside like wtf
In germany we "only" have racism rise up again in the eastern part of the country. If the trend continues they could become our leading faction
blazing condor
opaque quest
Also hardcore thematic change. My new DAC that i ordered today has a texas instruments chip i thought they only do calcs
opaque quest
https://tenor.com/view/seen-it-marty-back-to-the-future-ive-seen-this-one-gif-59...
Ye its pretty bad
These hobos
opaque quest
They are like trump but as a party. They say climate change doesnt exist and foreigners are behind all problems
blazing condor
yup same here
also hardcore thematic change
they removing the buff gained from shockwaves?
isnt that like the whole fight
opaque quest
Ye its neat
blazing condor
well thats pretty dope
that means u can just tank it however
makes it easier to group ads
bronze lantern
that means u can just tank it however
ehhh yesnt
adds killed by bladestorm still give stacks so youre still heavily encouraged to play around that
blazing condor
yeah true
pine storm
I read that as the actual aoe from the buffs triggered from shockwaves (by error) instead of just his melee attacks. Not that he won't get stacks from shockwave anymore. You sure that's the case?
tribal wharf
im still horrified after being slapped by that tree for 1.2 million
opaque quest
Yogi starting the conversation somewhere in the middle again
onyx musk
Leech on a tank, useful or dead stat?
blazing condor
i mean any stat will always be useful
but doesnt mean you wanna "stack leech" or anything
secondaries/tertiary stats aren't all that important
in terms of playing a tank well
pliant trout
btw does someone know how to enable details! summary windows after m+ run where it shows player keys and the loot recieved by the players? i mean visual pop up window
leech is best for prot warr
pliant trout
all gets updated with curseforge app
blazing condor
then idk
check the changelogs on the addon and it shuold say what to enable
otherwise play around in the settings
opaque quest
leech is best for prot warr
Agreed. 20% leech is popping
Not gonna keep you alive on its own but it pops
pliant trout
you should see it just as a free healing
opaque quest
Aye
pliant trout
avoidance is dogshit for tanks cause you already have a lot dr%
speed is a dead stat
they should make it more like status resistance and ms
opaque quest
Speed is both the best stat and the worst for me
opaque quest
But im playing wheelchair dk sooo
pliant trout
overall speed has the least impact in m+
cause it's ONLY movement
others do buff you
opaque quest
Yea. Its the worst because it doesnt do anything but the best because it feels so good. Sadly fun doesnt time keys lmao
pliant trout
some does not understand the less damage you take the more damage you can deal
cause you don't need to waste rage on ignore pain etc
opaque quest
Also more damage from the healer
opaque quest
I mean healers shouldnt heal us to much anyways but you know how they are. Tank dropped to 85% better use LoH
pliant trout
I mean healers shouldnt heal us to much anyways but you know how they are. Tank ...
btw i don't have much issues with heals most of the time, only if the play really bad, or on hard bosses etc (and they don't play well)
had one druid in fall 27 holy he didn't dispell and healed badly
was a deplete ofc, i mean i meet such players rarely
opaque quest
btw i don't have much issues with heals most of the time, only if the play reall...
Ye i notice healers messing up the least. Probably because they dont just tunnel dps and think about what happens next
blazing condor
biggest problem ive faced with healers is just throughput
but doesnt mean theyre playing like shit per se
its just rough to be a healer this m+ season
opaque quest
Been rough to be a healer at all since the first heal nerf in S1
tribal wharf
im pretty sure thats the new detail mythic + finish thing, but thats a good upgrade to it
shows the key and loot
lusty grotto
its not really new
tribal wharf
it shows the relevant information easily same box
thats what i like, "oh i see you have a 18 AD, anybody want to go run that?, and priest do you need the ring?"
tribal wharf
anybody that knows me knows i makea a good attempt to communicate, but often don't properly communicate
lusty grotto
nah that was on me, i havent had my coffee yet
didnt read good
also have huge toothaches since yesterday
and the closest appointment with my dentist i could get was next wednesday
so i guess im popping pain killers until then
tribal wharf
lusty grotto
blazing condor
next wednesday at tooth-hurty pm
blazing condor
pog
gives you all night to get it fixed
something for the dentist to sink his teeth into
lusty grotto
i hate dentists 
blazing condor
yeah theyre icky
lusty grotto
you know how dratnos lost his tooth thing
that same thing happened to me
playing volleyball setting up a spike
hit ground, spiker landed on top, i ate concrete
so i lost 1 tooth then, then another front one like 2 or 3 years ago
so ive been in and out of fucking dentists for so long
blazing condor
its crazy how long you gotta do dentist shit when your teeth gets fucked
and how costly it can be
lusty grotto
yeah its extremely expensive
blazing condor
had a coworker who was drunk and fell and legit mashed out like 10+ teeth
and then they started to rot and a buncha other shit happened
and 3 years later hes still got things to do with them
blazing condor
actually 5 years
lusty grotto
in my case the first accident was like 15 years ago
so my teeth actually lasted
a big while
but yeah thats what happens, trauma leads to rotting etc
this time though my upper jaw fucking hurts like a mf, im thinking it might be cavity related, either that or its finally time to have my wisdoms removed
literally started out of nothing, woke up yesterday with pain, lasted all day
was like eh maybe its a today thing
nope, still having it today, so i called
lusty grotto
its mangeable with pain killers at least
so its not too bad
just gotta keep popping em every 4 hours lol
opaque quest
American healthcare. Woop Woop
When my tooth broke off i just had it pulled and got an implant 2 days later. Cost a 0 dollares
blazing condor
we have free dental care til 23 here
otherwise shit can be costly
not american healthcare costly
but still, money
lusty grotto
murica
opaque quest
Do you not have healthcare when youre employed or something? I know that my boss is paying mine
lusty grotto
i do
its okay
but problem with job healthcare is that usually doesnt cover a lot dentist-related
at least here
lusty grotto
either way it has been getting slightly better, my insurance is covering more every time
and its not like you go to the dentist that often, bi-annually for checkups and for emergencies is usually what they tell me
opaque quest
I really dont wanna bash america everytime but man does your medieval country make it easy
opaque quest
Depends. I am getting my teeth cleaned 4 times a year profesionally because of an illness
But ye you dont visit the dentist everyday hopefully
What do you guys do if you need braces?
lusty grotto
i needed them
on my 1st accident
but i was young so my parents had to suck it up and pay it
well they didnt have to but they did
couple grand, it was wild when they told me the amount
opaque quest
Ye im asking cause i had to wear braces for almost 5 years and my parents had to pay 10% of it and it was a couple grand already
lusty grotto
yeah something like that, probably more in here since orthodontic shit isnt really covered much at all
lusty grotto
im not entirely sure, it kind of seems its that way everywhere
opaque quest
I see
thorny stone
I bet it's cheaper to get a flight to Spain, get your dental care done here, and, you get to eat tortilla and jamón as a plus
lusty grotto
100%
opaque quest
lusty grotto
is kalim8 still popular in spain?
fuck i loved spain when i went there, got drunk off it so much
i dont know how its actually spelled
opaque quest
I cant drink anything but beer
lusty grotto
but wine + coke
opaque quest
but wine + coke
Ill accept white wine and coke
thorny stone
is kalim8 still popular in spain?
Yep
lusty grotto
jamon tapas are fucking goated too
thorny stone
It's been a while but last time that I drank calimocho, you could get a bucket 🪣 at the bar and they would fill it for you, 8€ serves 3-4
uneven mason
Beer is for chasing the real drinks
uneven mason
Speaking of, I'm still nursing a bottle of Walker gold reserve I picked up for my bday
lusty grotto
i got spoiled and cant really do JW anymore
uneven mason
I can't do the cheap walker
lusty grotto
like JW just tastes like ass when youve had glenfidditch and shit
i havent had the more expensive JWs in a big while so cant really remember
thorny stone
rooach ngl, im a beer guy too but calimocho is awesome
Try a tinto de verano, red wine + sprite, we drink this on the beach in the summer
uneven mason
Glend I's a good sip but they're a bit pricey for the 15y single cask
lusty grotto
i had a few friends growing up that had money
so like for graduations and stuff
they had stuff like that
the lagavullins, glenlivets, glenfidditch etc
completely out of my price range for sure
😄
uneven mason
i had a few friends growing up that had money
My roommate and I used to split the cost on a monthly bottle of pappy Van Winkle
opaque quest
Damn. I was always out of house and never had cash so all we had was the cheapest corn
uneven mason
20
lusty grotto
ive never had that one
lusty grotto
Damn. I was always out of house and never had cash so all we had was the cheapes...
i feel that, ive been on both the working class end and the extremely low end too
its been a rough ride
uneven mason
ive never had that one
It's hard to get, his father in law lived just outside the town where the brewery was located and would hop over and buy the bottle straight from the source
lusty grotto
😮
uneven mason
We'd make the 5 hour drive on the weekend
jagged gust
i havent had the more expensive JWs in a big while so cant really remember
Blue isn't bad, reminds me of that flavourless Japanese stuff
uneven mason
Best sip I've ever had, it's got such a smooth finish, no kick
lusty grotto
oh, japanese whiskey is pretty fucking great
well at least most of the ones ive had
jagged gust
Hard disagree, it's smooth but devoid of personality
lusty grotto
well i guess youre not wrong, like i said im not too big on whiskey
uneven mason
Although when I'm looking to get smashed I reach for the jack triple mash
lusty grotto
uneven mason
A case of coke and some 90proof jack
jagged gust
I like Islay's micro barrel stuff, very intense, feels like a cigar is having a sword fight with a lighter in your mouth
lusty grotto
isnt
lagavulin kind of islay
i think?
whats a good one that you recommend? im visiting friends in a couple of months and getting them one would be poggers
nopefully not lagavulin expensive lol
opaque quest
its been a rough ride
tribal wharf
isnt it mdi really soon like tomorrow
atomic copper
well i guess youre not wrong, like i said im not too big on whiskey
rye whiskey is usually the middle ground for me to not remove my throat on higher proofs. usually go with 80 proof but this one can knock me if im not careful.
opaque quest
isnt it mdi really soon like tomorrow
You gonna compete?
Pretty sure if Exorsus sees you they insta /ginvite
uneven mason
rye whiskey is usually the middle ground for me to not remove my throat on highe...
Don't piss on the bonfire after drinking this
atomic copper
dont piss in general after lol
lusty grotto
rye whiskey is usually the middle ground for me to not remove my throat on highe...
thanks
😄
my circle of friends arent anywhere near lightweights so this could be right up their alley
we vacuumed bacardi 151 a lot
lusty grotto
i cant really do shit facing anymore but that's due to age
atomic copper
i just like somewhat remembering the night after its done
lusty grotto
plus im not really drinking that much anymore
LOL
in my case i really black out 90% of the time i get shit faced
atomic copper
we vacuumed bacardi 151 a lot
had this one time and got so sloshed on it i cant drink rum anymore
lusty grotto
has been that way since i started drinking
uneven mason
i just like somewhat remembering the night after its done
I'm incapable of having a blackout, always wondered what that would be like
atomic copper
its not bad but its just weird waking up and getting lore of yourself
lusty grotto
its funny most of the time
opaque quest
I only had a blackout once. That was my 18th birthday
Holy fuck
Apparently i had sex without a condom. I was never so scared in my life
uneven mason
Rum in general is pretty gross, I've never found any that were worth drinking and didn't make me feel ill afterwards
lusty grotto
i like rum
tribal wharf
i dont drink much but generally beer
uneven mason
Apparently i had sex without a condom. I was never so scared in my life
I've done that plenty of times
atomic copper
Rum in general is pretty gross, I've never found any that were worth drinking an...
bacardi limon and sprite is pretty chill, straight rum is a menace to society
opaque quest
I've done that plenty of times
Yea same but not with some chick youve never seen before on a house party
uneven mason
After I was married
tribal wharf
vodka just makes you puke
lusty grotto
hmm its not that uncomon
uneven mason
vodka just makes you puke
Stop drinking skol
lusty grotto
there is good vodka though
winged slate
You drink that high class Burnetts
lusty grotto
titos is pretty solid
winged slate
Cotton Candy flavor so that it burns twice as much coming up
atomic copper
honestly rye any liqour is a safe bet
uneven mason
And give you the shits
atomic copper
also be careful with any vodka from the baltic states, they drinking to forget a lot
uneven mason
honestly rye any liqour is a safe bet
It really is, rye is the best flavor for your dollar and almost always hangover free
tribal wharf
uneven mason
Like I can grab some rye gin and drink that almost straight, other gins one glass and my eyeballs want to melt
lusty grotto
nah
tribal wharf
smirnoff is good siht
uneven mason
Ugh another bottom shelf hangover juice
atomic copper
Like I can grab some rye gin and drink that almost straight, other gins one glas...
yea craft gin usually tastes like you decided to french kiss a pine tree so straight is just a nightmare
opaque quest
I dont like smirnoff either. Tastes like i drank a mint
lusty grotto
my guaranteed hangovers are usually red wine and fucking mescal or tequila
i have never had those and not had a hangover
ever
uneven mason
I dont like smirnoff either. Tastes like i drank a mint
Licked the underside of a potato planter
opaque quest
Licked the underside of a potato planter
yeah lmao
uneven mason
Some vodkas you can taste how fucking dirty they are
tribal wharf
opaque quest
my guaranteed hangovers are usually red wine and fucking mescal or tequila
Its mezcal you stupid american
GET IT RIGHT
Cause its amazing
How dare you
tribal wharf
these bad boys and smashing them after they are finished; name a more iconic duo
atomic copper
you want a hangover:
lusty grotto
jesus christ yogi why 😢
lusty grotto
you want a hangover:
opaque quest
I dont get it
lusty grotto
dont forget champagne
tribal wharf
when i was younger 18 20 thats what i drank at parties
uneven mason
Of course the worst tasting drink never gave me a hangover
winged slate
Yogi do you drink a Four Loko out of a stemmed glass?
lusty grotto
weddings too
tribal wharf
nahhh no four loko
opaque quest
Oh yeah weddings
uneven mason
If you know you know
opaque quest
But those are over. All my friends are married
uneven mason
uneven mason
My buddy father got us an open bar at his wedding
lusty grotto
bro
uneven mason
But stocked it with nothing but malort
lusty grotto
LOL
atomic copper
im convinced malort is a money laundering scheme, never met a single person who liked it.
lusty grotto
i was gonna say i get tilted everytime someone mentions open bar wedding and the bar is closed until after speeches (and closes after a certain time), but thats just worse ikari
tribal wharf
i'd rather smoke a joint than drink a beer, but thats about all i really gotta say on beer
uneven mason
We looked at him and said "you underestimate how much of an alcoholic bunch we are" and the 5 groomsmen each grabbed a bottle
uneven mason
i was gonna say i get tilted everytime someone mentions open bar wedding and the...
Dude
atomic copper
I dont even know what Malört is
keep it that way tbh
lusty grotto
good
atomic copper
im convinced synthetic oil has a smoother finish
uneven mason
I was the best man at a wedding and went to get a drink and they were like "not until after speeches" and I was like, then we find ourselves at an impasse, as I need to be completely hammered before giving mine
uneven mason
He laughed and just left the bottle of B&B on the counter
atomic copper
I was the best man at a wedding and went to get a drink and they were like "not ...
last wedding they had me do one spur of the moment, needless to say the bar provided even with that stipulation
lusty grotto
i cant imagine it any other way, fuck giving speeches stone sober
uneven mason
im convinced synthetic oil has a smoother finish
Used diesel has a smoother finish
atomic copper
You guys are old
lusty grotto
opaque quest
uneven mason
It's a tradition though, Chicago polish family, every toast the groom and groomsmen did a shot of malort
lusty grotto
good fucking lord
uneven mason
It was a tough night
atomic copper
It's a tradition though, Chicago polish family, every toast the groom and grooms...
we had a tradition of burning witches and even we stopped that after we realized it was bad
lusty grotto
uneven mason
It ended after one of the groomsmen yelled "I swear the next person who calls a toast is getting this bottle where it won't come out"
Good times
atomic copper
how many rounds did yall make it before then?
uneven mason
how many rounds did yall make it before then?
8 or 9
atomic copper
straight no chaser?
uneven mason
Why use a shot glass
I grew up drinking it because his dad and uncle would do a shot anytime they'd have a BBQ, so we'd just sneak drinks as teens
Probably why I play pwar
Just used to punishing myself
lusty grotto
uneven mason
It's hilarious the things people say the first time they try it
"It tastes like a dandelion hate fucked a pine tree while dousing itself in gasoline"
opaque quest
It's hilarious the things people say the first time they try it
"It tastes like ...
You have such a way with words
Truly painted a picture with language
lusty grotto
uneven mason
They're not wrong
atomic copper
Protection discord my ass
we drink to forget the pain
uneven mason
A 4 horseman could probably do it
atomic copper
valid
lusty grotto
that'll cure anything
atomic copper
also just looking at it lore wise there is no way any prot warrior is fighting some of these bosses sober
no sober man goes "i got a stick and dinner plate against the soul of a corrupted planet, seems fun"
lusty grotto
you know
it kind of depends on the absinthe but
honestly its just EU moonshine
it was kind of hyped when i first tried it
uneven mason
no sober man goes "i got a stick and dinner plate against the soul of a corrupte...
Argus hits us hard enough to crack a planet in half
lusty grotto
but that was a while ago
opaque quest
Argus hits us hard enough to crack a planet in half
The murloc tidecaller in elwynn
Didnt just split a planet but my soul
uneven mason
it kind of depends on the absinthe but
Mmmm fermented wormwood
There are a few drinks I will only try once and true absinthe falls firmly at the top of that list
jagged gust
whats a good one that you recommend? im visiting friends in a couple of months a...
That depends, do they drink scotch in the first place? I gave a glass to a lady that came over to my place who said she wanted to try it but never did before. It was like a $600 bottle and she said it tasted like cigarette ash and leather lmao
lusty grotto
yeah they do
uneven mason
That depends, do they drink scotch in the first place? I gave a glass to a lady ...
To be fair, you probably should have washed the glass after using it as an ashtray 
jagged gust
okay and what's our price limit? Most middle shelf bottles are going for ~100 bucks in Canadaland
lusty grotto
200 max
i would say
like i said, im not gonna do glens as a gift, thats just too much
uneven mason
Bowmore 15y single malt
jagged gust
Like Bowmore small batch has a very intense flavour due to the barreling, Talisker is one of my favorites currently, glenmoragie with the cherry cask can be quite nice but my flavour preference has changed so I'm not a huge fan anymore
uneven mason
Like Bowmore small batch has a very intense flavour due to the barreling, Talisk...
Jinx
lusty grotto
ill look into them
jagged gust
Jinx
There's 1 that has the letter g in it like 15 times that was pretty amazing, but that was like a 20 something year
uneven mason
I was just thinking like, what's sub 200$ that's got a good finish
jagged gust
after a certain age they all taste way too good
jagged gust
Bunnahabhain, I got the letters confused lol
but it was like 500 europe dollars
So thats a no go, the 18 might work
uneven mason
I will say, steer clear of anything that says "highland" under $300, like sucking on peatmoss
jagged gust
Mmm, Peatmoss and charcoal
uneven mason
Fucking about died when my buddy tricked me into trying some Irish made from peatmoss, taste is etched in my tongue for eternity
uneven mason
ill look into them
Just get em a bottle of Highland 50
You can take a 2nd mortgage right?
lusty grotto
lol
weary saddle
pwar channel talking whisky!
uneven mason
You think we play this spec sober
winged slate
Bro I could put trash in a $3000 bottle and you'd never know the difference if a guy in a tux poured it
uneven mason
Bro I could put trash in a $3000 bottle and you'd never know the difference if a...
You can tell if you've tasted the difference before
But maybe not between a 300$ bottle and a 10000 , bottle
winged slate
I promise the difference between good stuff and the thousands+ is all in your head
It's like when a dude buys $30k speakers and you're just like "Uh huh they sound good"
uneven mason
Right, there's a point where the kick vanishes and the difference is in the finish, which is why I stop around 150-200 for the good bottles as there's not a huge leap going higher
winged slate
Yeah there's obviously a difference between what 18 year old college kids drink and a nice bottle
uneven mason
You buy the 50 year reserve to have it on your shelf
Same reason why people buy jaguar
winged slate
But nobody buys Don Perignon because it tastes good
jagged gust
Right, there's a point where the kick vanishes and the difference is in the fini...
Age is really all that matters, cost is usually relative to age but not always
jagged gust
yeah the diff between a 12 and an 18 is actually noticeable, good price to age ratio
Such BS going from an 18 to a 25 is like quintupling the price
opaque quest
@lusty grotto I need to grab him from a roof every 20 seconds but he is fast ngl
opaque quest
nono
Its easy you dumbo
Use one of your 4 traits anubises
With a 0 trait suzaku
Thats what i did
lusty grotto
yeah thats what i did for the females
opaque quest
opaque quest
Time to farm 3 more suzakus then set up a third base with nothing but breeding ranches
This is how it look 50 feet from my main base
Just for shit like this
Breeding takes way to long otherwise
Btw do you know if cooling/electricity get increased by traits?
lusty grotto
yes and no
"Cooling, work speed multiplies the amount of time required for food rot, higher cooling level does the same. Pal still needs to be constantly cooling for it to apply."
opaque quest
uuuh
Dont care tbh i just press sort now and then to reset the cooling timer
Cause it resets the rot timer aswell
lusty grotto
also this shit is ridiculous
opaque quest
Yeah lol. Its faster during walk than my old one during sprint
lusty grotto
tbf
faleris might actually be a goated transport pal
with speed passives
cause craft speed doesnt do shit for transporting
opaque quest
Aye. So far ive been using wumpos but if you already got the faleris might aswell use it
lusty grotto
if only helzephyrs didnt exist
not that you really need a 24/7 transport pal anyway but still
though honestly
im thinking more about vanwyrm crysts
opaque quest
I wouldnt hate a 24/7 Transport. There is so much ore on the ground at all times
opaque quest
@tribal wharf Because you said it looks like it would come crashing down i had to rebuild it. YOU HAPPY NOW?
tribal wharf
i was giving you a hard time i dont even play that game
opaque quest
i was giving you a hard time i dont even play that game
Yeah i know i was just looking for reason to rebuild cause it was ugly anyways
chilly brook
Helldivers 2 is the new ish
flat stratus
<@452530918247235597> Because you said it looks like it would come crashing down...
hey man
dusky canopy
Helldivers 2 is the new ish
Thinking about scooping that one up
I heard there was mtx though
tribal wharf
i forgot just HOW primitve wc1 was
at least wc2 is semi playable, wc1 is pretty awful by comparison lol
deft hinge
pls remake Magic carpet 2 Bullfrog!!!
chilly brook
I heard there was mtx though
Yeah not necessary it’s just cosmetics I think
tribal wharf
pls remake Magic carpet 2 Bullfrog!!!
not hi-octane? the game that is like basicalyl like mad max + wipeout?
same developer bullfrog
deft hinge
they made Syndicate aswell, awesome game back in the days on my 386 33mhz cpu 😂
Doom was not running smooth on that pc 4 shure
blazing condor
Why are redditors always so cooked
pallid quiver
"shield slam doesn't hit for shit"
boss that's literally our damage ability
maiden forge
Wtf
How do these people exist
Like, the whole spec revolves around slamming your fist onto the shield slam button
As much as possible
jagged pier
ppl bad whats new
median tulip
"focus on defensives"
doesn't take any shield block talents
pallid quiver
ppl bad whats new
the one that got me on this one is the shield slam comment
like in most people's eyes, that's literally the only button that prot war does damage with
so it was like finding a unicorn
a unicorn with extensive brain trauma, but a unicorn
maiden forge
Isn't revenge basically filler?
maiden forge
Wrath its wack ye
median tulip
Explains why he's talented BT
maiden forge
Now, it only exists to be pressed to spend rage tbh
jagged pier
no its exists to proc SS
maiden forge
That too lol
median tulip
If I just want to dump Rage I have IP
maiden forge
True, smol brain here
median tulip
Seeing a Warrior without Anger Management and Avatar though... special
maiden forge
Wtf
maiden forge
I don't want to
median tulip
It's trash
jagged pier
yer im not going in there
median tulip
and the guy is giving it as advice to newbies
maiden forge
Man is literally trolling
jagged pier
nah they redditors they playing a different game
median tulip
No wonder people think PWar is bad when they get told to use builds like that
maiden forge
Delete that build rn
uneven mason
No avatar
Ad
Bsv
It's an obvious troll
That didn't work because Reddit is stupid
winged slate
Ah the classic, I gotta make my shockwave do more dam
winged slate
BSV I'll forgive cause the node doesn't do what it seems like it should
If it really did what it said on the box I'd hate it less
Especially if they give it Will of the Necropolis behavior
crystal mauve
I found his main - brewmaster (2700IO) I wanted to see his warrior alt but I can't find it sadly
uneven mason
Especially if they give it Will of the Necropolis behavior
Imagine bracketing the damage profile and applying it after mitigation is considered
winged slate
It would be thick as fuck
uneven mason
Would be a way to cheese some tank Busters
tribal wharf
i got 2 sparks ready
winged slate
I don't think any busters are really make or break so I don't think it's a problem to design that way
Plus it could just be a cool thing that warriors have
Too angry to die passive
uneven mason
Yeah something that nearly every other tank has....
winged slate
Do they? I'm not sure a free frenzied counts lol
uneven mason
I mean, I said nearly
tribal wharf
i think i would like to craft helmet engineer or blacksmith, im both
tribal wharf
i dont think there is haste versa helm if i do smith one, and i can get a brez if i do engineer
main problem with that is i have a 483 one that has leech but not the right stats
maiden forge
Just give us back banner
crystal mauve
i dont think there is haste versa helm if i do smith one, and i can get a brez i...
I'm curently using the ENg BR helm and it's ok to BR if you have no one else in the group that can do it. I try to avoid in key where the damage could kill me tho. I try to make sure I have a BR for 24/25 and above
lusty tiger
maiden forge
I'd love banner to exist over spear tbh
tribal wharf
condemn is only one i miss
maiden forge
Banner on prot was so good
uneven mason
uneven mason
Non dr interrupt
median tulip
Banner was amazing. But we're not allowed nice things.
maiden forge
Spear is gross
uneven mason
Give aftershock
tribal wharf
give spear to the dps
maiden forge
They said they kept it cause warriors "liked" using it
maiden forge
We used spear only when it was the best
winged slate
¯_(ツ)_/¯
maiden forge
Ye
hardy snow
I dont want to farm eranog ring next season
maiden forge
Banner tho was just feel good
winged slate
If they made spear do huge damage the entire xpac you'd see people defending it
uneven mason
They said they kept it cause warriors "liked" using it
TFW we used spear because it was packaged with bleed removal poition
maiden forge
True
tribal wharf
i dunno, i feel like its you offer up 2 pizzas and yyou say okay this one is free and this one is 3dollars a slice, and then ppl only eat the free one and then you do a survey and then you say ah, whatever this free pizza was, lets disregard it was free, it won the who picked it tally
maiden forge
Ye
warm plinth
Who needs bleed removal amirite
uneven mason
Because we can't have nice shit
maiden forge
Banner though was just a feel good button
uneven mason
Who needs bleed removal amirite
Looking forward to Crawth in S4
winged slate
Warrior still has the fundamental problem of
Jam 4 buttons into the bottom row, but one of them is crucial CC that you NEED
warm plinth
maiden forge
Cause it didn't just help u, it helped your allies too
warm plinth
And basilisk in Ulda
uneven mason
And basilisk in Ulda
Basilisk ez
maiden forge
Make avatar baseline
uneven mason
Speed set built
maiden forge
All warriors take it
tribal wharf
i will never run uldaman again unless its with people that know what i have to do prior and can explain it to me
i hate that place as a key
uneven mason
Make avatar baseline
Shockwave and avatar should be baseline
warm plinth
Everyone taking it isn't a good reason to make it baseline though. Because then something else goes in its place and becomes something else that requires balancing.
maiden forge
The class tree was for utility and not damage
uneven mason
The 4 endcaps should be our covenants
warm plinth
That ship has sailed. Literally every class has damage in class tree.
maiden forge
Gross no
tribal wharf
ulda man is a very good casual untimed dungeon but i think its pure garbage in terms of when you throw the numbers from the multiplication of keys into it
winged slate
Everyone taking it just means it should be repositioned to be easy to take on the tree, or the other options should be made more compelling
pallid quiver
Everyone taking it isn't a good reason to make it baseline though. Because then...
balance is for cowards, snap the game in half
median tulip
Things Warrior (and especially Prot) needs:
Avatar move down to roughly where Intimidating Shout currently is (Avatar is a Core ability for all builds; it should not be a 3rd gate ability)
Bring back Old Safeguard
Make one or more of the following available for PvE: Morale Killer, Bodyguard, Dragon Charge
Ravager moved to Class tree not Spec tree
CC not locked past the last gate
New rank 10 spec node: choice between "AM applies to Last Stand" and "AM applies to Ravager"
Bring Back Banner
Better node connectivity in the middle section of the Spec tree
uneven mason
Oh roar should be baseline
winged slate
Prot barely needs execute at all as it stands lol