protection

[uneven mason]

Yeah amd hardware is amazing

Their crimson driver shit is literally garbage

But at least they haven't forced a 400w GPU to melt itself in silent mode

[lusty grotto]

i honestly havent heard any AMD driver issues for months

and 80% of all my friends have swapped

[uneven mason]

"I know let's force stop fans on what is basically a air fryer

[lusty grotto]

nvidia though, had fucking garbage ass driver issues for a year and a half

[tribal wharf]

imagine not downloading a fan curve program

[uneven mason]

But really Nvidia lost my business for real back in the 660 days

[lusty grotto]

literally fucked my shit up

[uneven mason]

Ikr

[tribal wharf]

I DONT LIUEK PC AND STEAM AND RTX AND COMPURTERS CUZ FNAS R TOO LOUD RREEEEEE

literally some streamer one guy and im hyperbolizing it, but that was his argument that day, it was that dumb

[uneven mason]

There was a funky one just 2 months ago which would black screen wow in startup

[lusty grotto]

there was a funky one for like 5 versions straight

the ones i have atm have no issues so i havent updated

[uneven mason]

I mean amd has bricked cards on me before, but I always got a good deal on rma

Like my R9 290 got fucked by silent mode but they sent me a 390 to replace it

[lusty grotto]

also my 3070ti is an evga and we know evga aint making nvidia anymore

[uneven mason]

Like "yeah our bad, maybe silent mode is something we shouldn't surprise auto enable"

[uneven mason]

That's because Nvidia is a shit partner

[lusty grotto]

yeah well

if evga aint making them, i aint buying

[tribal wharf]

they are out of business since....

im not sure but covid basically

[lusty grotto]

they arent

the fuck are you on about

[tribal wharf]

evga for gpus? nvidia at least i am positive no

[lusty grotto]

they are just not making any nvidia chipset gpu after the 30 series

yes, we know yogi

thats exactly what im referring to

[tribal wharf]

evga bis

i too am sad they die

is what im implying

[lusty grotto]

they didnt die

stop saying they are out of business or dead

[tribal wharf]

did tey not get bought out

i thought so

[cursive prawn]

No

[lusty grotto]

jesus christ

[cursive prawn]

They exited the gpu and motherboard market

Still making psu

[tribal wharf]

seasonic bis

[cursive prawn]

I’m on bequiet with zero complaints

Don’t think those are as popular in na as in eu

[lusty grotto]

they are

i have a bequiet

on my 2ndary rig

[cursive prawn]

Ah, pog

[lusty grotto]

my main has a corsair though

[uneven mason]

EVGA has never made and GPU iirc
And Nvidia overcharges their partners and demanded that EVGA release the 4000 series cards 3 months early to beat AMD 7k cards, when there was a massive glut of 3000 cards

[lusty grotto]

we're not talking about AMD gpus

but yeah they havent

[uneven mason]

I know just saying in the market as a whole

[lusty grotto]

they honestly should

and maybe intel

[uneven mason]

Partner companies should've learned their lesson back when Nvidia forced BFG out of business

[lusty grotto]

i think that's why they did what they did

looking at BFG

[tribal wharf]

where hero cleaver?

[lusty grotto]

EVGA is still selling 30 series on their site

[uneven mason]

Yeah I'd love some EVGA quality for AMD GPU, MSI has gone to shit, so it's either premium pricing for sapphire or uh, yeah that's about it

[lusty grotto]

actually

[cursive prawn]

Powercolor is up there imo

[uneven mason]

Noooo

[lusty grotto]

powercolor has been an amd partner for decades

[uneven mason]

I had a PC 5700xt and their firmware is fucking garbage

[lusty grotto]

sapphire too

[uneven mason]

Only 2 heat sensors, pipe assembly only covers half the VRAM modules

I had to do loops to get afterburner to control the fans

Since PC doesn't have their own software

[cursive prawn]

Can’t relate tbh, been on a PC 6900XT Ultimate since 2020 I think

Running great

[uneven mason]

They were like "the amd software suit comes with wattman to control fans"

[cursive prawn]

Maybe it used to be worse, I dunno

[lusty grotto]

ikari still stuck on the ATI days of GPUs

[uneven mason]

I bought it because it was just at the start of the crypto explosion

[uneven mason]

5700xt is 2 generations ago

[lusty grotto]

god i fucking hated ATI cards, they always burned up

jokes ikari jokes

[uneven mason]

But yeah not willing to give PC another shot

My 7900xt runs 20degrees cooler under full load than that 5700xt

Because amazing things happen when you have a heatsink that actually covers the whole card

[tribal wharf]

i had a 1050ti evga 2070 evga, still have 3070 gigabye , running 4070 asus currently

[uneven mason]

I just can't justify paying 40% more for the same performance

Although in Canada amd cards are incredibly hard to find in stock

[tribal wharf]

ford vs chevy, star trek vs sar wars, pepsi vs coke

same thing to me lol
still have my prefered brand

[dusky canopy]

Might do 7800x3d might not

Already on a 5800x3d but seems like wow loves the 7800

[tribal wharf]

1000$ if i want to switch to am5 basically

maybe not quite that much? but like at least 500 750

[dusky canopy]

Yeah pretty much

[lusty tiger]

It loves mine

[dusky canopy]

Depends on the board you go with

[tribal wharf]

cuz, its motherboard, ram, and cpu

[dusky canopy]

And ram

[tribal wharf]

which is a huge fuck you

[dusky canopy]

I also have been debating the 14900k because it has the absolute best single core currently (to my knowledge)

But the 3d cache from the 7800* is so good in any other game that isn’t wow

[tribal wharf]

if i can afford it and feel like it, some day i will swap socket boards

i dunno about soon

[uneven mason]

https://youtu.be/2MvvCr-thM8?si=go4ISSjmZ8VVtxpI

The most recent Intel chips are hot garbage price to performance

[restive scroll]

Can confirm that you can't :)
(well, of course you can, but CD won't reset)

[pliant prism]

Guys, can someone explain why tf my weapon killed me in 2 tics at dummies? It happen also last week on amirdrassil trash lol. This is happening since 10.2.5.

Also, i note the name is also wrong, in details shows Vakash but im using Gholak as tank. Is this damage intended??

[waxen frigate]

All of the fyrakk weapons say vakash for… reasons

[lusty tiger]

Haha wtf

[waxen frigate]

My first thought is something with orgrimmar dummies rather than valdrakken

[lusty tiger]

It’s probably doing the scaling thing

So the proc is doing like millions of damage

[pliant prism]

yeah, Im thinking of that one, but trying to figure out wich thing is scaling this hard

[winged slate]

What level are the dummies? I've definitely never gibbed myself on the proc

[pliant prism]

I think it doesnt matter abt the dummies, cuz this had happen to me in Amirdrassil too, with the first pack of trash.

I just charged and 2 sec after with full hp, I was dead

anyways, dummies ar lvl 70

[winged slate]

Bizarre

[tribal wharf]

rip bozo /sarcasm

thankfully i have full black smithing, so if that happened to me i wouldnt have to pay the repair bill

[pliant prism]

It doesnt happen frequently, but I think its concerning, if this happens in a high key, I could deplete it because of this. Time to find a backup weapon 😦

will try to send a report, see if they detect something

[winged slate]

I've been using Gholak since week 1 and haven't had a single issue

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt

it doesnt happen in high keys

[pliant prism]

Me neither until 10.2.5, it was super weird to die oneshot on trash

[lusty grotto]

do you have a log?

or is trash = org dummies?

[pliant prism]

Im trying to replicate it while recording

[lusty grotto]

log

dont record

[pliant prism]

no, i said Amirdrassil trash

that was 2 weeks ago

and now with org dummies

[lusty grotto]

look up a log, someone might have logged it

[pliant prism]

I will try to search, we have a lot of logs, dont remember wich day was x.x

[tribal wharf]

my man has freddy kreuger coming for him or something

pennywise the clown

[winged slate]

Were you doing something before these two instances?

Like were you in a quest sync or something, and then ran in and first thing killed you?

Is it always at the start of a combat?

[pliant prism]

No, i just logged in and went to raid. And today, just take the love is in the air daily, went to dummy and die lol. No buffs or extra things added.

I will try to replicate with logs and video, and come back with it.

[lusty grotto]

wahts your characters name

i can look it up

[pliant prism]

Kheypax@quel'thalas

[winged slate]

At first I thought "That's a weird email address"

[lusty grotto]

i mean ive ran high keys without any issue since 10.2.5

jan 16 is when it came out so

jan 18th reclear you died to tswift, no other deaths

[pliant prism]

It happen only 2 times, but it did. I notice firt a big hit with my hp going to ~50% then another hit and dead

[lusty grotto]

jan 30th reclear, you died to blazing seed on fyrakk, no other deaths

[pliant prism]

yea, it was only on trash, at start before first boss

then never happen again until now at dummies

[lusty grotto]

im checking trash

trahs and encounters

[pliant prism]

I saw a weird thing also, today in that death at dummies, Details didnt show anything at "damage received"

just was able to see it here

[lusty grotto]

this doesnt help us

its an org dummy

[pliant prism]

i know :/

its all the info i got

I will keep trying to replicate it with appropiate logs

[lusty grotto]

jan 23 reclear

you died to trash

but not to gholak

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BcXhnf4GPJkzp7ma#type=deaths&boss=0&difficulty=0&source=7

you got astro fucked by a charged stomp

[pliant prism]

That death was I think, it was no sense since i always tank that shit with no problem

[lusty grotto]

that wasnt gholak

[pliant prism]

i first tought it was that, the stomp

but after today, idk

[pliant prism]

i mean, why this?

[lusty grotto]

that doesnt have anything to do with how you died

you died to charged stomp

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BcXhnf4GPJkzp7ma#type=deaths&boss=0&difficulty=0&source=7&ability=425149&view=events its right here

you literally got 1 shot

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BcXhnf4GPJkzp7ma#type=deaths&source=7&view=events&fight=2

[pliant prism]

I was trying to see if it was something with my spell reflect while suffering the gholak damage, but there is nothing on logs abt that

[lusty grotto]

bro

gholak on dummies is not the same as dying on this trash

like they mentioned

org has scaling issues

two different scenarios

[pliant prism]

ah

then the stomp took the shit out of me lmao

[lusty grotto]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BcXhnf4GPJkzp7ma#type=damage-taken&source=7&view=events&fight=2&translate=true

you had 0 mitigation

absolutely nothing

so thats on you

[pliant prism]

i see

[lusty grotto]

i mean aside from a tiny 33k absorb

[pliant prism]

the dummy took me for surprise with that vakash damage, but yeah, i see now

[lusty grotto]

which im guessing was the remainder of an IP the absorb was the head enchant, its on the 2 lines

[pliant prism]

yea, those are the 2 deaths i remember

well, nice then, dont have to worry abt the weapon, just my skill lol

thank u for ur time bro

[winged slate]

Like I said I've been using gholak since week 1 and literally 0 issues

[opaque quest]

I got gholak on my FDK and i dont even notice when it proccs without a 1.5 mil life pool

@lusty grotto i got 2 good parents now btw. Took me forever to find a lucky suzaku. Ive bread 5 anubis now and still didnt get a good one

https://tenor.com/view/ups-oops-gif-25712345

[lusty grotto]

[tribal wharf]

if there is not at least 1 full murloc group at mdi i riot

only requires 2 ppl to have it, probably 1 with the way they run keys

[lusty grotto]

so close

[opaque quest]

wdym so close

[lusty grotto]

youre missing artisan

[opaque quest]

no

[lusty grotto]

for a crafting suzaku

[opaque quest]

Lunaris has artisan

[lusty grotto]

😄

[opaque quest]

Ahhh

[lusty grotto]

ooo

are you making anubises?

[opaque quest]

Ye

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah

just pump out like 20 eggs, youll get it ez

[opaque quest]

I wanna have enough anubises to clear the ore/coal and then have them mine some stone for paldium

[tribal wharf]

wait, so which slots are you guys doing the food buff on and the shadow flame to lesser extent

[opaque quest]

Shadowflame is bracers/cloak

Pocket is ring

But since you dont raid mythic

[tribal wharf]

like, more the food one, i have boots that have it currently

[opaque quest]

Irrelevant put it wherever

Its for ppl that raid Myth and care about the -3 ilvl

For us normies it doesnt matter

[opaque quest]

On it 🫡

[tribal wharf]

like im trying to say where it wouldnt get deleted if i got better 489 in that slow with higher item stat values

i have to imagine 489 boots better than 489 ring for that comparision

[opaque quest]

Crafted ring gets pocket

Or crafted neck

Its one of those 2 since you dont replace them

Then craft bracers/cloak and put shadowflame on them. You wont replace either with vault

[tribal wharf]

i had hero boots from wcm but i think i vendored them lol

[lusty grotto]

you dont replace embelishments with higher ilvl

[opaque quest]

Ye i edited it. Brainfart

[lusty grotto]

they are on those slots specifically so you dont touch them

because bracer/cloak/ring/neck have the least amount of stats, so the ilvl loss doesnt matter

its literally explained in the #268491842637660160

[tribal wharf]

ring = neck ?

[opaque quest]

yes

[tribal wharf]

ok

[opaque quest]

Neither has mainstats

[tribal wharf]

illl do neck then, i did have a pocket, sold for 40k earler this week

buy it back for 45 prollyl

[lusty grotto]

also the lowest amount of stats

[tribal wharf]

ya i know about ilvl stuff more about the slot, cuz each one has individual weight

and its on boots now which arguably bad

[opaque quest]

@lusty grotto What about condensation btw. I havent even built the thing. Do i need it for work stuff?

[lusty grotto]

you can up 1 more crafting with a maxed one

but

youll need around 117 total anubises for 4 stars

so i havent really bothered yet

[opaque quest]

117

[uneven mason]

🙃

[lusty grotto]

something like that

[opaque quest]

I think ill use eugenics to make the perfect ones then call it good lmao

Im already mengele enough

[uneven mason]

I heard it helps to feed the imperfect young to their parents

Motivation

[opaque quest]

ok calm down satan

In palworld you can butcher pals with a knife so they drop their loot again but then disappear

I cant

[opaque quest]

[tribal wharf]

my damn item restore is on cd cuzi used it the other day

[opaque quest]

Looks like you should restore your sanity

[tribal wharf]

im not sure i have that cloak still

and i dont feel like running nzoth

[opaque quest]

Just ask wrathion. Im sure he will restore some if you rub lotion on him

[tribal wharf]

i hope there is a haste versa boots i can get

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/gagging-gag-gross-jim-carrey-gif-13338718

no gagging cause the only ones are from smoldy 🙂

and yogi doesnt raid

teehee

[opaque quest]

Fairy cartman

[lusty grotto]

SEEMS WE HAVE A CONONDRUM

[opaque quest]

Man ive made 10 anubises now and none of them has more than 2 of my traits. WE DO IN FACT HAVE A CONUNDRUM CAUSE I WANT ONE BUT DONT WANNA WASTE MY TIME

[tribal wharf]

EVER BLOOM??:?????1!!!?!? NOOOOO

[lusty grotto]

ITS A GOOD THING VERSA ISNT THAT GOOD

[tribal wharf]

noooooon onnono i hate that plcae

[opaque quest]

Just craft boots

[lusty grotto]

or just dont be a versa andy

[opaque quest]

Since you dont raid at all you can just craft anything

[tribal wharf]

i hate everbloom

i mean, i get 489s out of vault

everbloom is i hate it on both tyranical and fort

[opaque quest]

Hope you are ready for azure vault next season cause that final boss is just as bad

[lusty grotto]

question mark

[tribal wharf]

well, actually i dont mind that place so much now

its a pain in the ass but its at least clearable for me now

AV is i would still do it

[lusty grotto]

now?

its not even active as a key

[tribal wharf]

thats what i me an

[lusty grotto]

so i guess it is

[tribal wharf]

there are keys i will never ever do again

such as plague fall

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-so-confused-antman-gif-18662710

[tribal wharf]

they could make it for ksm next patch, and i would refuse

[lusty grotto]

i guess hes doing AV in m0 or something

[tribal wharf]

de other side

[opaque quest]

I loved all the Shadowlands dungeons apart from dephts and maybe teeeheeheee find me

[tribal wharf]

i will never ever ever ever run dos or the new trogg dungeon again

as a key

not for any reason ever

[uneven mason]

Uldaman?

[tribal wharf]

yup

[uneven mason]

Was ez

[tribal wharf]

i will never run that dungeon ever again

[uneven mason]

Just run away from basilisk

[lusty grotto]

ikari dont try your logic with a versa andy

[opaque quest]

Not a fan of ulda either. But only when i play dps and see tanks trying to tank 3 stacks

[tribal wharf]

uldaman fort is horrific

[opaque quest]

Just kite. No shame

[lusty grotto]

should be easy for versa andies

[tribal wharf]

nah, im never running that dungeon as a key again

[lusty grotto]

i mean thats what the stat is for isnt it?

[uneven mason]

Even bdk are like "fuck this"

[lusty grotto]

LOL

i make jokes

[opaque quest]

BDK runs anything. We dont care

[tribal wharf]

i only do truly awful video game parts one time

and then never ever again

[uneven mason]

Bruh you played ps one

Like

[tribal wharf]

I played every video game

[uneven mason]

That sounds way more painful than uldaman

[tribal wharf]

what i sent you, thats footage of game i had as kid, sort of a lunar lander and shooting aliens type of game

still play it, as you see

[uneven mason]

Footage of the games I had as a kid

[lusty tiger]

Actually ancient

[tribal wharf]

but did you have hotwheels for c64?

[uneven mason]

I didn't have a c64
I had a IBM AT

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/smirk-dinosaurs-jim-henson-muppetwiki-muppet-wiki-gif-10951398133467140007

Footage of Yogi

From high school

Look at that side eye

[uneven mason]

Well, a 80186 XT turbo

But then we upgraded

[opaque quest]

I thought im old but the first GPU i can vividly remember having that was for gaming was a 9800gt

[lusty grotto]

my first gpu was a monster 3d

the first one

my 2nd was a monster 3d II

[uneven mason]

Riva..

[tribal wharf]

We bought it to help with your homework.

[uneven mason]

Then a voodoo2

[lusty grotto]

riva was too expensive for me

but yea a voodoo2 was my 3rd

3dfx from there on

[uneven mason]

Then a voodoo 3 3500 complete with tv tuner "ball" so I could record my MW2 gameplay on vhs

[lusty grotto]

until nvidia buyout

whatever happened to open gl

[uneven mason]

After that was a 4600 I think

[lusty grotto]

i know direct x kinda made it extinct but

[uneven mason]

It's still used

[lusty grotto]

or at least thats what i thought happened

[opaque quest]

OpenGL is still used for emulators

[lusty grotto]

i know it kinda transitioned into browser games

like the browser quake and stuff

[uneven mason]

Open GL market kinda transitioned to Vulkan

[lusty grotto]

ah

that would make a lot of sense

[opaque quest]

All games need vulkan so badly

[uneven mason]

There was a lot of "baggage"

[opaque quest]

AMD slaps in vulkan

[lusty grotto]

thats cause vulkan is theirs

[opaque quest]

Mantle

I remember trying mantle with my R9 290x in BF4

and it ran terrible

This is my progress btw. Neither of them is even decent or 3/4

[lusty grotto]

oh yeah i remember mantle

[jagged pier]

it that lucario?

[lusty grotto]

wish.com lucario

[opaque quest]

We have lucario at home lucario

[lusty grotto]

but yeah anubis is stupidly similar to lucario

hes not steel/fighting, but ground

[opaque quest]

I mean they are both modeled after an egyptian god

What do you expect

[lusty grotto]

[opaque quest]

[lusty grotto]

theres so many similarities in palworld

[opaque quest]

Ye plagiarism is strong in this one

[uneven mason]

#protection message

[opaque quest]

"Legally distinct"

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/black-hell-no-crazy-confused-gif-10844795171417297413

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[lusty grotto]

like jetragon is just latios/latias

[opaque quest]

When i saw the jet statue i thought oh hi lugia

[lusty grotto]

nah its closer to latios/latias

[opaque quest]

Well i stopped after crystal so no idea who that is

[opaque quest]

oh ye

[lusty grotto]

ruby / sapphire

[uneven mason]

Chonky boi

[lusty grotto]

i never liked lugia

i like ho-oh

ho-oh enjoyer forever

[opaque quest]

I like both

When you posted your speedy boi i thought i need it cause it looks like ho oh

My first 2nd gen game was gold too

[lusty grotto]

i had silver

my brother had gold

i had blue, he had red

[opaque quest]

Same. I had blue my brother had red

Then i gold he silver

Then we both had crystal

[lusty grotto]

after gen2 i stopped playing but my lil bro kept going

[opaque quest]

Then i got into woman and he got ruby

haha

Eerily similar

[lusty grotto]

and then i picked it back up on alpha saphh/x&y

anything before that i didnt play

missed black and white etc

[opaque quest]

Im just gonna play them on emulator now

But first palworld

Then soulsilver

[lusty tiger]

This lmfao

[lusty grotto]

the only reason i played them is cause he bought me a 3ds

[uneven mason]

Those mercnet matches are probably still sitting in my folks garage

[lusty grotto]

i really cant play old games

[opaque quest]

Me neither

[uneven mason]

Along with the laserdisc player and betamax

[opaque quest]

I get eye aids

[lusty grotto]

its not the graphics i just think its kind of a waste

[opaque quest]

Hardware has kept me from them too

[lusty grotto]

im trying to think of the last game i replayed or if i revisited any old game

and besides classic, nothing comes to mind

[opaque quest]

Witcher 3

[lusty grotto]

OH

[opaque quest]

Borderlands 2 didnt hold up as well as i thought either

[uneven mason]

Gonna be honest, I never got into the original pokemon outside of making cash scamming kids on the TCG

[lusty grotto]

i did uncharted collection cause i wanted to be caught up

and god of war before the newer ones came out

thats about it

[uneven mason]

Got into pokemon because my daughter loaded go on her tablet so I started capping when I'd walk our dog

[opaque quest]

I still havent played either of the new god of wars cause they are just movies

[lusty grotto]

they are damn good games

[opaque quest]

I enjoyed Horizon tho. Cant wait for the new one next month

Might have to buy the first GoW in the next steam sale

[lusty grotto]

narratively, the combat is pretty great

yeah they are worth it, the ports are super good too

[opaque quest]

Ye i noticed with horizon. Game ran phenomenal

[lusty grotto]

i think the spiderman games also have good ports?

the only port that sucked dick was TLoU

cause of vram issues or w/e? or at least i heard

i played all of these in ps4/ps5 so i dont know the details

[opaque quest]

Its wild how much of a game backlog i got

I dont have a new console. All the exclusives pissed me off

So i gotta wait for pc

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats fine

[opaque quest]

Aight. Palworld -> GoW it is then

[lusty grotto]

as long as the ports are good, thats all that matters

[opaque quest]

Agreed

Still no good anubis. I think ill just afk for an hour or so

Then come back

[tribal wharf]

okay, its craftin time

[dusky canopy]

Thanks for the heads up I haven’t watched any reviews yet

[opaque quest]

@lusty grotto i give up on those useless parents. I got an anubis with lucky and serious. Im trying to make an anubis with artisan and work slave now and use those 2

Unlucky beyond believe

[pliant trout]

https://i.imgur.com/QgAnb9j.png

monkas

[tribal wharf]

i saw 30 wcm listed today

[opaque quest]

Pugging 30s is bold

[tribal wharf]

they said they were going to drop it to 29 28 though

[opaque quest]

29s are easy for you. Just queue there

Believe

[tribal wharf]

hah

[pliant trout]

keys which doesnt require extraordinary coordination are relative "easy" if you can survive and damage is good. i mean it's a myth about pugs, good players are good players. but for highest keys you need a lot of strategizing etc

[tribal wharf]

top row is everything i currently equip, you want me to do boots for food buff or ring/neck food, or something else entirely

currently i got shadow flame on belt, shield, and bracers, and i have a 489 crit haste cloak

that, or i can wait till vault., fgiured i'd get your guys input beofe i do something dumb

[opaque quest]

Yeah ofcourse. I was just generalizing

[opaque quest]

Put shadowflame on cloak and bracers

Food thingy should go on ring/neck. But you dont have a high ilvl one yet. I'd hold out and grind some crests to upgrade ring/neck first

[tribal wharf]

it was this or something worthless or nothing

i cant remember, but i picked this one vault

cuz like the other stuff would have been adventurer or hero

[opaque quest]

Its nice but you want shadowflame and since you can only put it on crafted you wanna use the crafted slots that have the least stats and thats cloak/bracers

Since you dont raid mythic and its unlikely you will get good boots from Vault you can put Shadowflame on boots and wear that cloak

Then put second shadowflame on bracers

And call it a day

[tribal wharf]

but shadowflame has to go on armor right

cant do it on ring

[opaque quest]

Yep. Armor only

Wait no. I think you can put shadowflame on shield too. Im not sure but you shouldnt cause if you get a 489 shield from vault you wanna use it

[tribal wharf]

way ahead of you on that one

[opaque quest]

I mean patches are so cheap it honestly doesnt matter when you swap stuff around

Its just to minmax the 3k gold

[tribal wharf]

how many more months/weeks we got of this current season

roughly, like, what, like 6 to 9 (week)

[opaque quest]

I have no clue. I dont even have a sub right now so my feeling is right out the window lmao

[restive scroll]

Gholak slaps hard o_o

[median tulip]

Personally I'm using Lariat and Shadowflame Wrists because I got a Mythic track Cloak early in the season while I haven't even seen a Mythic track necklace yet. So with my available gear Lariat goes almost the same in Sims on single target and actually outperforms double Shadowflame on multi target.

[tribal wharf]

i found one, they crafted unstable ffb

[opaque quest]

It doesnt matter what you pick. They are all so close together anyways. Its minmaxing again

[sleek current]

Mythic Tindral is so stinky, I decided to gear a Paladin for one boss.

[sick sentinel]

How do I not get instayeeted by spiders in BRH?

🙃

[blazing condor]

using rageheart is a easy mode to do it

you can just pop it and run all the way up then you got normal CDs and CC to take care of the rest

[sick sentinel]

I can do that

[blazing condor]

i usually pull all the way up to the big spider with rageheart

then you can just CC with stuns and use defensives and whatnot to live

just the small spiders that needs to die

[sick sentinel]

Yeah, they suck. Everything else is super chill.

[west walrus]

If you have a hmonk with you, they can also cocoon you

as long as you have a full absorb shield, you do not stack

[blazing condor]

^ that

thats what rageheart does

also monk that can ring of peace helps as well

[west walrus]

but rageheart is the longer one

[tribal wharf]

does def stance work for spoodies

like a real strat or nah have to mechanics

[blazing condor]

i mean you still get stacks

you just take less damage

[tribal wharf]

generally it wont contribute enough to keeping you alive or is feels comfy

like, i use def stance if i had to kite mobs more than 10 meter

pulling monsters from pig room wcm largely

[serene gorge]

best prot warr race for m+?

[tribal wharf]

dwar (both) f for alliance, probably tauren for horde but matters less for horde

[pallid quiver]

Dorf is the only one that provides realistic gameplay benefit, but it's not major enough at all this season to affect anything.

Just tell your DPS to kill dogs faster and that's about solved, so it's whatever looks the best to be very honest.

[restive scroll]

Race start to matter in 26+ ~

[opaque quest]

@lusty grotto

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-the-rock-rock-go-rock-lets-go-lg-gif-18455293

[jagged gust]

A little contradictory

[opaque quest]

Maybe he loves being a work slave

Some kind of kink

[median tulip]

Current Status:

[opaque quest]

Is that for the legy?

[median tulip]

Yeah

The Rune of Shadowbinding part is bugged rn

[opaque quest]

Dope

[lusty grotto]

nice

[lusty grotto]

org dummies are bugged, try popping rageheart

and enjoy the pain

specifically go to the cleave dummies

and pop rageheart

my vdh has normal rageheart and almost killed itself

so yeah gholak will melt you too

[restive scroll]

x)

[lusty grotto]

we told the guy this morning

but he was also confused about a death in amirdrassil

its only happening on Org dummies

just to be clear

he died to stomps on amirdrassil

[opaque quest]

Used the guy to breed more. No chance lol

[lusty grotto]

i just keep popping eggs and condensing the crap

[thin silo]

it's just the LitA Stress Relief buff, isn't it? or is the bug that the buff shows up even if you're not onn the quest

[lusty grotto]

no idea, its just scaling issues

honestly i barely matters

it only happens there

[thin silo]

it does get pretty easy to body yourself with Gholak or Signet on the daily if you're not paying attention

[opaque quest]

Thats what im doing. I finally got 4/4 on male and female. Im just gonna let them do the sexy time until i got like 10 4/4

[opaque quest]

Just play Dk. Even more deathstrike healing

[opal forum]

hi, does spellblock works against magic dots? Typically against Soul Venom ability in BRH as exemple

[opaque quest]

It says check the pins. So check the pins

[pallid quiver]

As a broad scope answer:

Depends

Most notable magic dots this season, yes. They have to be specifically listed as able to be blocked, though, so Sense's reflect/block sheet is usually a good starter litmus test

[pallid quiver]

If it's not up to date, you'll have to do the good old fashioned try and learn

However, it should be fully fleshed out for this season, so

[opal forum]

thank you for your answer, it's indeed listed as no in the sheet, but like you said, i feel like it should be blocked, so i was wondering if that was outdated or not

i guess its easier for people to tell me to check the pins

[pallid quiver]

If you want to check or not, you can log it and double check to see if it's being blocked while spell block is active, but as far as I'm aware, everything is up to date for all abilities at this point in the season

[daring bay]

hey, thinking of playing prot warrior. But people keep saying its really bad. Is that actually true?

[opaque quest]

No its not. Warrior does 29s and 30s just fine. Will people still not invite you because of your brown name? Absolutely

[daring bay]

Hmm

i do want to be invited into groups

[pallid quiver]

All the tanks are extremely capable and bring value to groups. They have been all xoac and likely will be next season. Hell, we're even better than we were Season 1 start when people considered us overpowered.

It's just public opinion is based on stupid and popularity, so invites will be affected

[winged slate]

Idk if I'd say that warrior necessarily does 30s fine but yeah it can be done

[safe heron]

not fine but that is theoretically possible

pwar's still very durable and very powerful dps wise

[winged slate]

I wouldn't call us powerful DPS either lol

Our prio damage is alright

[opaque quest]

People that ask if a class is viable do 20s. They will never see anything higher than that

Good players know every class can perform

[winged slate]

I hate to undersell us but like

Let's be realistic

[safe heron]

tis definitely more powerful than bear's

[winged slate]

We are the lowest DPS tank for M+ atm, though bear is basically the same

[safe heron]

well as i see it our aoe is more consistent and we are in a better state overall

[sick parcel]

Can Warriors Solo tank Heroic Fyrakk? I seen DH/DK do it...but not warrior...just curious

[jagged pier]

Yes

Its more dependant on your group but it can

[desert rover]

hi question, anyone know how much haste i should be running? i seen some threads talking about 30% haste then put in mastery/crit and others said max your haste to 40+%

[opaque quest]

7101 haste

[jagged gust]

Looks like perfect stats for trying to play arms, fury and prot with the same equipment set

[median tulip]

There's no specific target number. 5400 is DR threshold 1 and 7100 is DR threshold 2.

5400 is also roughly where ITF takes over from HR as a talent choice.

[opaque quest]

That was the reason i swapped my dps specc to arms last season. Having crit haste was just comfy

[opaque quest]

@lusty grotto Did some more breeding. Anubis + Broncherry gives blazehowl for kindling and logging to make gunpowder/charcoal. Anubis + sparkit makes verdash to handle wheat and stuff

[rocky crest]

any wars here pushing above 3.3 rio ?

[restive scroll]

yeup, multiple ones, why ?

[restive scroll]

3rd actually, there's another one in the middle at something like 6k6 ~

[rocky crest]

Cant seem to get an invite, dry as the sahara

[restive scroll]

Yes, this is annoying, tbh, it gets worse

[west walrus]

That's mostly the case since week 5 ^^

[rocky crest]

aye

[opaque quest]

Thats not about IO. Thats about public perception

You could be 4k and wouldnt be taken

For 17s

[rocky crest]

I know if it aint pink or purple ya aint in

Rise is a bitch with all the magic dmg though, any pointers there ?

[restive scroll]

Maybe not in all of them, but when I tag 24s i usually get in

[restive scroll]

use and abuse reflect, defensive stance, and spell block

[opaque quest]

I was exaggerating ofc

But you wont be insta taken with a kiss on the cheek like a DH

[rocky crest]

mhmm

[restive scroll]

I know, but I mean, you can't get into keys of your level, but you can do lower stuff still

[pliant trout]

you can get relative easy into -2 keys to your top idk

[west walrus]

You have the choice between a dh, and mostly don't handle any kick / stun, a paladin with sac, cr, many kicks, ... and a prot warrior with neither utilities nor externals, who would you honesty choose ?

[restive scroll]

That is definitely true..
most reaction I have is "I didn't know you still existed"

[west walrus]

As whole shadwolands xD

[serene gorge]

LETSGOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[pliant trout]

all those players should fuck themself UuU 90% of them are just low skills

[opaque quest]

Ya i can still get into decent groups but it takes infinitely longer than on my other chars

[restive scroll]

tbf, some people still don't know about it, but we're pretty damn strong reflect wise in a few instances !

[opaque quest]

Neltharions lair spell reflect

[west walrus]

[restive scroll]

I'd argue that it's even better now tbh :D

[restive scroll]

WM/EB is pretty damn nice

[tribal wharf]

lair is probably one of the best dungeons ever created

[serene gorge]

fuck magic damage

[tribal wharf]

its so good

[serene gorge]

give us that dk spell shield

[tribal wharf]

meh, dk can keep ams amz for all i care

[opaque quest]

Good morning yogi bebi

I want safeguard. Thanks

[serene gorge]

best dg ever created was freehold

[pliant trout]

but we're pretty damn strong reflect wise in a few instances !

only wm/eb on tyranical and last boss tott

[opaque quest]

I want banners. Thanks

[serene gorge]

no discussion on it

[opaque quest]

Freehold was pad heaven but not a fun dungeon otherwise imo

[pliant trout]

i would say wm is the strongest one cause free damage on 4th boss

[serene gorge]

my definition of fun is padding

[tribal wharf]

waycrest also best dungeon ever made

[restive scroll]

I know I know, but that's something

[restive scroll]

....
Camera.
.

[tribal wharf]

waycrest is pinnacle of modern dungeons

[pliant trout]

100% agree

giga fun for tank

[serene gorge]

i had a tank that always went offensive but never died, he used to say "the only job of the healer is to keep me alive, not topped"

[pliant trout]

you just around and pull

[serene gorge]

he had logs higher then tettles

Hyne is his name

if anyone wants to search for it

he played bfa

tettles

i dont remember

[pliant trout]

i just subscribed for this season because i remembered wm in bfa and wanted to do it again

[serene gorge]

who was the guardian goat

oh i'm not on druid discord

nvm what i said

lmao

sorry for killing the convo but i cooked 💯

[pliant trout]

i even know why wm is so good

it's very tight in space

you don't waste time while running

[serene gorge]

ur crazy

sanguine back in the day was hell on earth

[tribal wharf]

it was a bit of hell key 8.0 8.1

but like, even then, skill issue?

[serene gorge]

skill issue about sanguine? i dont remember which xpac was 8.0

[tribal wharf]

cuz the main thing that fucked you in wm was like sanguine and bolster

[pliant trout]

idk there is only matron and witches afk casting

[serene gorge]

matron was cake easy cmon

[pliant trout]

move others you can move + what has affix to do with dungeon design lol

[tribal wharf]

ninja basement matron is terrifying

comes flying into battle bazillion miles an hour melees the fuck out of hunter

[west walrus]

[tribal wharf]

hunters dead

[pliant trout]

sanguine has just stupid design, it should be probably just value which does scale a bit and not % of max hp healing

so i would scale slower than units hp

[restive scroll]

It's bothering, but it's actually interesting to play around IMO

[pliant trout]

no

on high keys it kekw

[restive scroll]

You really see the difference between a good and a bad group

[pliant trout]

too much healing

[restive scroll]

I know, but you can play around it

[pliant trout]

ahhh i know

!!!!!!

i should just give 50% dr

yea

[restive scroll]

stun mob about to die, move the rest for instance

[tribal wharf]

i used to find playing around necrotic to be a ton of fun

necrotic feels good when you do it right

[pliant trout]

not heal

[restive scroll]

Maybe just delay the first tick, that's the bad part

[tribal wharf]

but if you dont it sucks ass

[restive scroll]

Necrotic was hell in legion (as prot), I don't know after that

[pliant trout]

no dr is much better

healing with some mechanics is just unplayable

brh those little shits with indegestion

are just grose

[restive scroll]

yes, difference between good and bad group :)
That include group comps

war sucks for it, unfortunately

:(

[tribal wharf]

just craft brez bracers and bring drums

now ur viable, /.s

[pliant trout]

having a lot of cc "good group" dungeon design is dogshit

it shouldn't be overwhelming

[restive scroll]

I disagree, however, having classes that can't do anything is bad design

That's just my useless opinion though :)

[pliant trout]

honestly gatekeeping bosses are kind a fine

like eb

[west walrus]

Everyone should equally deals with any affix
Affixes impact on timer should be balanced between affix of same tier
Affixes should not overlap with dungeon mechanics

[pliant trout]

packs shouldn't be omega hard/annoying

[west walrus]

That being said, we could just remove most affixes x)

[pliant trout]

or atal yazma

etc

[restive scroll]

You can also play in +2, and have nothing annoying

I don't see an argment there

Everything that prevents you to do something doesn't have to be annoying, that's your perception, not the design

[pliant trout]

xDDDDD

like people cried about sanguine for years

those dogshits fixed it like for 5+ years?

7 i guess

they also think "it's fine" but it's actually not

it's just an example

there is ton of wrong/broken stuff in wow which could be fixed relative easy

[opaque quest]

Why fix anything that doesnt make money lmao

Its activision

Not some indie dev that cares

[tepid nest]

does anyone have like, a details plugin that will show me blocked hits %?

cant see a native way to do it

i know how to do it in logs

but it's just a minor inconvenience to do it that way

[tribal wharf]

seems like blizzard doesnt want u to be able to focus on that type of metric live

have to install old janky addons and generally be a giga brain cuz those addons hamper/brick current wow :S

so, it turns out its simply better to log after the fact and check that way

have to have sb up and face eenemy or you'll end up like me here

[winged slate]

It's fairly easy to see, it's just not a metric that most people measure because it mostly applies to a single spec

And given our block chance is 100 people only check it when looking for bad

[tribal wharf]

i would appreciate a special block animation/sfx plays each time any player weilding a shield blocking an attack occurs

just that we know FOR SURE, we blocked the attack, would be same for parry and dodge too, but thats pie in the sky shit

[winged slate]

I mean, just use an addon that displays incoming, you can easily see blocks/parries/dodges

It's archaic but I still use MSBT for things like that

Nothing feels better than repeatedly parrying the tankbuster for the third boss in BRH

[tribal wharf]

as i grow old i tired of the addons

[winged slate]

You asked for the info and it exists

Can't really be a meaningful animation when I'm tanking 12 mobs at once

[tribal wharf]

ya, and even if it was put in, it would be nitpicked by many including my self

eye/pie in the sky stuff lmao

[alpine pewter]

Hey, is there a major downside in putting IP and SB into a single macro ? I feel like SB uptime and rage generation make it possible. Am I the only one doing this or is this common ?

[winged slate]

I don't always want or need to hit SB when I hit IP or vice versa but if managing them is challenging it's not the worst thing

With the 4pc in particular I'm more picky about rage spending

[toxic pewter]

sb and ip serve different functions, I would not macro them together

[gloomy vortex]

I am now doing 24’s this week and I’m finding holding aggro an issue.. is this something noticed by other warriors? I’m charging in, doing TC, roar etc but still finding I can’t get aggro back.

[opal forum]

do you loose aggro mid fight or at the begining?

[gloomy vortex]

Beginning mostly

[median tulip]

That's probably just DPS bursting like crazy

[opal forum]

always try to pull with atleast one CD (ravager, roar, avatar) and demo shout available

and pray to loot gholak

[gloomy vortex]

Getting threat back after I lose it is not fun either

[median tulip]

I find judicious use of Shockwave helps

Lots of TClap to spread bleeds

[opal forum]

yes in bad case scenario ive seen myself shockwave to gain some time to build threat

[median tulip]

And if you do lose something, Taunt and Shield Slam

Are you in Dstance or Bstance?

[gloomy vortex]

Yeah if aoe taunt is down then it’s a pain to get more than one mob back

[opal forum]

are you low ilv? do you have dps issues?

[gloomy vortex]

I’m 486, I’m doing 90’s parsing in logs

[opal forum]

then i dont really know except what we said before, I do sometimes struggle a lil bit with threat during pull, but im low ilv (471), dont parse like crazy and if I plan my cooldowns im usually fine (i play similar key level)

so yeah maybe make sure to have demo shout and a big CD idk

[opaque quest]

Make sure to pull the priority target with taunt

Cause taunt = no aggro loss + threat boost

[grand veldt]

Early in the season I gave up the avatar bonus talent for the Shockwave 350% damage talent to hold threat

Totally shits all over your own damage

But it did help me keep threat when I didn't have an outlaw rogue to play with

[ionic nimbus]

this, when u r pulling 3 packs and after thunderclaping the first, they already start to burst while pulling the other two packs ... let them die

[gloomy vortex]

Yes that happens then I get called names

[ionic nimbus]

one reason why I am not playing full-PUGs anymore. Always 1 - 3 Buddies with, that are happy that I am still tanking and not living the m+ dps lowlife

[covert flower]

Saw one of the highest IO warriors running battle scarred veteran over bloodsurge

Is that a highest key/dungeon dependant thing or is there actually some viability to it in general

[pliant trout]

battle scarred is great, but yea trees would need to have +1 point to run it carelessly

but you need to play around it like if it triggers you don't use any defs at all

[covert flower]

Yeah it feels like a talent that actually is quite good but just, what would you drop to take it

[pliant trout]

and if it's up you let roll on it

you don't use shield wall

or w/e

depends on pulls etc

you may safe it for some really hard damage

but it's hard to do

cause it may proc "randomly" on high damage income

[covert flower]

Yeah like it'd probably auto go off on like

[pliant trout]

or intake w/e

[covert flower]

High key portal area in fall and stuff

[pliant trout]

but it helps a lot for sure

i mean decent talent the problem you need others more

thats kind a it

[covert flower]

I wish we didn't have to talent into aoe interrupt it should just be baseline like

Imagine playing this class without it

[pliant trout]

yes

and 1.5 min cd

balanced by 0iq tards

[covert flower]

Yeah the CD needs to either be lower base or reduced by targets hit maybe

Like 15s per interrupt hit

Could be quite strong though

[pliant trout]

just 30 sec is fine

or yea

[covert flower]

Like it rewards good use of it then

[pliant trout]

if the whole warrior theme is reducing then yes

for interrupts (ccs) you reduce the cd

or rage spent no idea

[covert flower]

And it needs to just be the baseline ability like

No talent to grab it

[pliant trout]

it's actually cringe and i would just do flat 30 sec cd

and it's fine

[covert flower]

Like VDH has 2 silence sigils and it's just better and

[pliant trout]

well you could do everything much better for every class

[covert flower]

That's outside of grip and shit

[pliant trout]

you need to nerf vdh

lol

thats the problem

hes too strong in any aspect

like free everything

but they won't do it UuU

[covert flower]

Yeah it has 3 tanks worth of mob control, infinite mobility, insanely good damage and like

[pliant trout]

gladly i will escape this dumpster "soon"

[covert flower]

Unkillable if CD management is good

[pliant trout]

btw he could keep almost everything of it, except for example it would be extremely difficult to play 28+ keys

damage + tankines == broken

i mean it would be a blaster tank for mid high keys

for the highest you would need really tanky bois

it would make sense

[covert flower]

Like I'm playing my pwarr secondary to my hunter, at 3.3k on hunter and like 2900 pwar but easily could be between 3-3.1k just haven't sat in it running keys this week

It feels fine, damage feels a little meh but

Can make it work in most keys

[pliant trout]

anyway game is really toxic (and it's blizzards fault, and many players support it like they have some kind of stockholm syndrom)

mostly because of some kind of pseudo elitism

wow players like to gate others

and the game itself* enforces/support it

[rocky crest]

I don't really struggle with threath holding in +25 n upwards. Even if they run with leggo.

Like somebody said here. I should just run my own keys instead of hoping and begging for scrap invites

BTW I also run the protector talent ( 2x shield walls.) Helps out a lot when heavy magic dmg is around.

Any tips on self-logging? Like see where you went wrong etc

[blazing condor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1tRp8lULT8

old vid but still relevant to the core stuff you wanna look at

[pliant trout]

Impenetrable Wall is just far superior to 2 shield walls. afaik you get it off cd like in a minute (!) and shield slam generates 3 (!) more rage this adds up a lot. like undertuned talent. maybe good for raids no idea. Impenetrable Wall is super synergistic with how you should plat prot warr right now, only benefits.

rofl no

you get it back like in 45 secs

kekw

[rich ember]

Before I go make a whole pack myself, does anyone know of any good prot warrior training wheel WA packs?

[pliant trout]

but ofc in good conditions when you can really pump

[tribal wharf]

how does the enchants work for head, and i suppose possibly also shoulder? i didnt check if shou lder enchants are a thing, oh no yogi/death misinformation

what i mean is, i think you have to go in on normal? and kill a boss? and loot some item? to start thge quest, i'm not sure at all, or maybe its only legendary parts drop on normal,

[blazing condor]

yeah thats what u do

u take quest

do quest

get enchant

[tribal wharf]

yeah, and the enchant is for head?

and its a 1 shot enchant? or you can buy more once unlocked or

[blazing condor]

its for the head yeah

its a permanent item so u can use it how much u want

[tribal wharf]

does it work on crafted items too

[blazing condor]

yeah should do

[tribal wharf]

might make a helmet for brez even tho its bonk

[opaque quest]

Did they fix the bug that makes the head enchant count as an embellishment?

[strong forum]

huh

was that ever a thing?

[opaque quest]

Ye someone talked about it here a week or 2 ago

[blazing condor]

havent heard of it

i got 2 embellishments and enchant so idk how itd affect

[opaque quest]

We had a discussion about testing stuff after. With enough research someone could find it. But why bother. Not like it matters if it works

[opaque quest]

#protection message

I knew i wasnt stupid

[bright urchin]

Is there a classic discord? Or dose anyone know best race for tanking in classic SoD alliance?...

Im assuming human or NE

[grim pilot]

@strong forum havent tanked in a while

had to up my key a bit

forgot I even have branch for the first 10 minutes of the dungeon

:xdd:

155k seems pretty shit

ran the cheat death trinket, my hp didnt even move outside of smallies pulls when they all jumped onto me

so kind of a waste

[tribal wharf]

how many raid drop thingies do i need

and is it like the shit from bfa EP where if i do higher difficulty more of them drop

i think there is 3 quests in total,first one i think it is wants 50 and i think 2 more after that

assumption is 100 then 150 with reward

not easily apparent on wowhead whast i can see

[strong forum]

https://wago.io/pcLWSxmq0

I beg

[grim pilot]

I dont look at my wa's

[strong forum]

It's so simple to just not forget about trinkets.

Yeah figured.

[grim pilot]

they're just there

to take place on my screen

[strong forum]

Typical UI

Install bloatware

[grim pilot]

only shit I look at

[strong forum]

Cuz everyone has it

[grim pilot]

is omnicd

[sick sentinel]

I have weakauras but look at my actionbar

[grim pilot]

yes

[strong forum]

Then

Big time trick

[grim pilot]

it's just a habit

[strong forum]

Hide your action bars

[grim pilot]

like

on arms

I tend to do 50/50

[strong forum]

Just hide them

It's a terrible fucking habit

[grim pilot]

im scared

[strong forum]

To look at action bars.

[sick sentinel]

I hid mine for a day, I did worse

[grim pilot]

because I have different keybinds

for different stuff

like mounts

[strong forum]

Memorise them

[grim pilot]

like bl/drums

on different chars

:xdd:

[strong forum]

It's infinitely faster and better

To learn your binds

Instead of watching them

[grim pilot]

I mean

[sick sentinel]

If you play 1 or 2 or 3 chars sure but if you play a lot ez to forget

[grim pilot]

I know my binds n shit

[strong forum]

Then why do you need to look

[grim pilot]

quite literally habit

[strong forum]

Again

Hide it

[grim pilot]

nothing else

[strong forum]

And that habit will be gone

[grim pilot]

if I had some WA for tactician

[strong forum]

Instantly

[grim pilot]

I wouldnt ever have to look at my action/wa

oh and for stuff connected to AM

[strong forum]

Tactician has a baseline animation

When it procs

In original wow

You get a power aura

Same goes for shield slam

[sick sentinel]

Tactician is like rampage the big lines in your screen

Pretty sure its this

[grim pilot]

speaking of UI

I need to set up so I can see shields

I never see shields on iridik

or burn phase %

[strong forum]

Get the dungeon wa pack

It has that included

[grim pilot]

think I have it

I mean I have one

just not sure if thats the one u mean

[strong forum]

It's a depleting bar

[sick sentinel]

[opaque quest]

Just get elvui. All that shit is included and you can just import a profile online

[grim pilot]

I literally have atrocity ui

my guy

[sick sentinel]

https://wago.io/dfdungeons

Oh you have notui

I didnt see

Not used that one

[opaque quest]

I mean there are probably profiles to make elvui look like atrocity and have all of elvuis features :>

[grim pilot]

idk kinda beats the point if u can just pay

like 50 cents a month or smth

via twitch sub

[opaque quest]

Why would i pay for UI tho

[sick sentinel]

I got naowhs with prime sub

[grim pilot]

I'm not paying for UI strictly

I have amazon prime

which I use

[lusty grotto]

i use naowh

[grim pilot]

and I have free monthly sub

it's just there

[opaque quest]

Na you use your free montlhy sub on a sub par UI

[lusty grotto]

whats the question?

[opaque quest]

Just saying

[grim pilot]

it costs me like $7 a year to have twitch prime

[sick sentinel]

How to see DF dungeon stuff

[lusty grotto]

both of these

[sick sentinel]

I linked one for the guy

[lusty grotto]

and core & essentials

[sick sentinel]

I already have

[lusty grotto]

i mean any WA with dungeons will do the same thing

[sick sentinel]

I linked him one that shows the things he asked

[lusty grotto]

its probably better they use quazii's

its free and a great starting one

[sick sentinel]

quazzi is a good guy

[opaque quest]

The content quazii does could be sold