Nah plater is just better
#protection
dusky canopy
vocal nimbus
that player tho
blazing condor
i use threatplates
at the end of the day its just personal preference
can you see what you want to see on a plate? then good
does the plates look like you want to see them
toxic pewter
i started using threatplates and I enjoy it but sometimes the bars shrink for some reason
still trying to figure out how to fix
blazing condor
yeah theres a setting for that somewhere
im not sure where
but basically the plates get smaller when youre doing your role correctly aka if you got aggro
by default iirc
and those you dont have aggro on are red+bigger
to stand out
winged slate
My favorite is to yoink a good plater profile from wago
People usually put out dungeon packs with pertinent info for the season highlighted on them
pallid quiver
wtb queue for normal/heroic raid so i don't have to keep looking for groups and can just wait until I get accepted zzzz
opaque quest
@tribal wharf i saw a video today with a guy repairing an og Xbox and he used a dongle for series x controllers. I got hyped and checked if there is one for your 360 too. Nope. I got invested into your journey and now im broken
blazing condor
bro got yogipilled
opaque quest
Yogi is one hell of a drug
strong forum
Drugs are one hell of a yogi
tribal wharf
Drugs are one hell of a yogi
mother fuckrs
strong forum
tribal wharf
game is all like super propeiratry
like, to access if oficially
i have to have it bought from between 2009 and 2017, and be unbanned from xbox live, and get on a 360 and then download it
and then even then, the offical route, its dealing with microsoft XNA4.0 /games studio, and it has to like connect online and save the file to microsoft or something if i want to save it and i cant just buy the game officiallly now either
worst part is, its all like basically java games
so its ripe full of glitches
its like i can RGH the 360 or get a ps3, and run them that way, but jankily i suppose
so its 1, bow to microsoft and worship them and thank me not for banning my obscure account/hardware
2, learn to code,
3 cry
theres 2 games, rpg likes that i really, really want to play again, wizard keep (diablo) cursedloot( (rogue-mostly)
celest field
Guys what trinekt should i pick? (already have the Hero version from Nulification)
strong forum
Socket
opaque quest
How the fuck did you manage to get 5 trinkets in 1 vault
Sucking wang like nome i guess
hazy bronze
Nome has sexy streamer luck
grim pilot
Guys what trinekt should i pick? (already have the Hero version from Nulificatio...
If youre planning on off speccing dps then ember is extremely good for both arms and fury
You can consider that
opaque quest
pips might also be worth to look at for multi speccing no?
opaque quest
Oh yeah. HC ilvl
celest field
If youre planning on off speccing dps then ember is extremely good for both arms...
thanks i already have ember 483 ilvl and my other trinket (tank and dps) are from S2 (Talisman and Vial)
uneven trench
Guys what trinekt should i pick? (already have the Hero version from Nulificatio...
All imma say is do NOT take egg sac. It is absolute garbage. Probably the worst trinket this season.
grim pilot
thanks i already have ember 483 ilvl and my other trinket (tank and dps) are fro...
Keep in mind its a myth dungeon trinket
Therefore its kinda rare to get it again
You can farm like 10 trinkets from dungeons easily
celest field
you are right i think i gonna pick the ember
opaque quest
For tank you can just farm a +17 rezan and call it good
tribal wharf
prot warrior gets the bleed, maybe eaten, pretty sure bleed, healer i think trying to heal him, heals self
opaque quest
Are you talking about your average run yogi?
tribal wharf
opened as fury for 1h and dps trinkets, countweight, didnt see
no
yogis typical rezan is someone too close to land while i got him in water where there is no purple
they get fear into adds, we die
i wish more groups would simply stationary and immune the eat
instead of lead him 3/4 around the damn map
if i go to run 17 18 ad, this is precisely one of the ways we would wiipe, how do i know? cuz i just know, i done it 100 times don that dungeon 500 times
opaque quest
This whole segment read like a fever dream
Ive had to reread every line 5 times
And it still only barely makes sense
winged slate
I would love to see where you tank that boss
tribal wharf
not on the land
winged slate
Here is your canvas
tribal wharf
2 routes to run him away, less janky hide spot, 2 hide spots
rezan is not what im particulary scared of in AD, it can go bad but it tend to go better than worse
grizzled nova
there is only one route to run him
this is it, you can mirror it on the other side
but kiting him any other way is a recipe for disaster
anyone can feign death/meld/vanish to end pursuit and you really don't even have to move the boss
winged slate
It drives me insane when a tank runs there late, he's in an awkward spot, and then they use a central pillar
warm plinth
*anyone* can feign death/meld/vanish to end pursuit and you really don't even ha...
Only meld works on anyone. The other methods only work if that person gets targeted.
tribal wharf
pretty sure paladins can BOP targets of it
hazy bronze
They can
warm plinth
It won't remove the debuff but it'll protect them from the damage
median tulip
On low fort keys, if Rezan targets me I just let him use me as a chew toy.
blazing condor
The chad play is to run him to the other side to pull the two birds on boss
After killing both saurid packs
winged slate
The chad play is not to waste time on saurids (unless you pull them to the boss) cause then you missed the bus
For tyrannical, anyway
grizzled nova
Only meld works on anyone. The other methods only work if that person gets targ...
feign death definitely works as well
tribal wharf
realistcally on 20 key whats appropriate stacks to fire tree boss
i think i go to like, 30 to 40 stacks usually but,
median tulip
realistcally on 20 key whats appropriate stacks to fire tree boss
Like Tyranical +25 and 50 stacks is about where I would go into D Stance. But it should be almost dead by that point anyway. If it's not then your DPS are bad.
median tulip
It really isn't about the tank. It's a DPS check. The better the DPS are, the fewer stacks it gets.
uneven trench
realistcally on 20 key whats appropriate stacks to fire tree boss
It should die way before stacks are an issue. If you're dying you or your healer are messing up.
median tulip
I can honestly say that the healer rarely gets involved on that boss; their job is to keep the Thorn target alive, not me. I'll be absolutely fine.
tribal wharf
merely hypothetical
median tulip
If you wipe on that boss it's because either your healer lets a DPS die, or your DPS just suck.
winged slate
I mean, it could be anyone's fault, like most situations
Tank sucks and dies or doesn't drop stacks if he's gonna die
Healer can't keep up with the thorns
DPS are slow
Spin the wheel of "who is dogshit in my group"
Bonus points if it's multiple
median tulip
The thing with the stacks is, once you commit to not resetting that's it. You can't subsequently decide to reset, because the stacks affect the initial blast damage. So on high Tyrannical you just gotta commit.
And by that point in the dungeon you should have some idea of how good your group is.
uneven mason
Are the thorns still a separate entity from the boss? Or do they scale on tyrannical now?
median tulip
AFAIK they scale only with key level
uneven mason
Ok
dusky ravine
just been tanking on vdh after maining prot for ages. and now i have to actually do something when incorporeal spawns. what blasphemy. i want to go back to zug zug
winged slate
That's the cool thing, you can just take that button off your bars and not help
dusky ravine
prot has temporary solutions compared to imprison tho
dusky ravine
ohh goddamn didnt know. and will never know as i will not talent into them
warm plinth
Shattering throw is available for every 4th wave. Intimidating shout with menace is available ever 2nd wave
Every*
dusky ravine
Shattering throw is available for every 4th wave. Intimidating shout with menac...
dont you have to cast shattering throw?
winged slate
Yeah they gave shattering a long CD and a cast time, so you can waste talent points to help rarely
blazing condor
timed atal28 first try as prot
zomg but youre not a meta tank??? no pala??? how did you deal with the key
strong forum
not even runnning cheat death trinket
warm plinth
dont you have to cast shattering throw?
Yes but that's not really relevant. Alot of tank assistance requires casting. Hibernate, turn evil/repentance, control undead
blazing condor
not to brag but i just +3d a 20 Fall - also known as the hardest key in the games history
with the tightest timer
winged slate
Yes but that's not really relevant. Alot of tank assistance requires casting. H...
Right but those are all 15s cd or less xd
Ours is worse just cause
jagged pier
Yer ive seen
uneven mason
not even runnning cheat death trinket
nimble abyss
heyo quick question, Incarnate preceptive casque is listed as one of our bis helms, but simming shows changing it to the Molten vanguard will net me 1.7%dps increase. I already have 4-pc, helm would be the 5th. I'm hanging around 35% haste atm, 38% with the Incarnates casque. Though my crit is woefully low, 14% with the Incarnate's Casque and 17% with the Tier. (oh and ofcourse an increase of mastery with the Tier) Thoughts?
gritty ether
jagged gust
heyo quick question, Incarnate preceptive casque is listed as one of our bis he...
BIS is fake news
nimble abyss
BIS is fake news
stick to the simms, gotcha
uneven trench
not to brag but i just +3d a 20 Fall - also known as the hardest key in the game...
Ik this is memeing but Iridikron on Tyrannical is actually scary in high keys. AoE and the soak fuckin CHUNKS people.
jagged gust
BIS only works when you have all the BIS, because it's taking all the stats into consideration. So when you have a piece that isn't from that exact list equipped, none of the other stats will be balanced thus making different pieces better. Plus we're locked into at least 2-3 crafted pieces for embellishes further changing your stat distribution.
nimble abyss
BIS only works when you have *all* the BIS, because it's taking all the stats in...
That makes complete sense.. .thanks much @jagged gust
strong forum
breh everbloom is so easy to tank
lowkey
tanked 80% of the key before it bricked at mages (3rd boss)
and legit didnt drop below 80% hp
restive scroll
What level?
strong forum
27
blazing condor
only risk is if you got a billion flower stacks and mobs are free casting
restive scroll
Still, neat
strong forum
can literally ignore the entire game
as long as naturalists are stopped
and if they arent, spellblock is your friend
blazing condor
EB is such an ass dung tho tbh
on high keys the timer is so tight u gotta pull the dungeon in like 8 pulls total - but if you got bad affixes that scales with pull size
its joever
edgy glade
anyone know if you're able to loot fyrakk lego in tank loot spec? i've heard both yes and no while asking around
stoic summit
grand veldt
only risk is if you got a billion flower stacks and mobs are free casting
Yeah I hate the flowers in eb
I was literally pulling gnarl on 25 fort and it was a breeze
tardy lily
good eve guys.
gotta step in as tank on mythic on next raid day, have not tanked amirdrassil at all yet, just keys up to 21s this season. otherwise just dps.
any tips for the first 5 on mythic? (our current prog)
have been looking at some guides but they cover mostly general tanking. was looking more for pwar specific tips or things i should look out for. special cd usages, etc.
tardy lily
anyone know if you're able to loot fyrakk lego in tank loot spec? i've heard bot...
yes. our mt, ppal, looted it
chilly brook
EB is such an ass dung tho tbh
I like the dungeon tbh
cinder pasture
anyone know if you're able to loot fyrakk lego in tank loot spec? i've heard bot...
I got it on Sunday in tank loot spec
tribal wharf
cant wait to get that bomb and rope off hand recently added
echo egret
seriously, how the hell do you time a ToTT ?
edgy glade
ty guys it didnt matter anyways 
blazing condor
anyone know if you're able to loot fyrakk lego in tank loot spec? i've heard bot...
you got the answer but i can confirm i looted it playing as tank, specced into tank, loot-spec protection
echo egret
tbh even without the deathes we wouldn't have timed it.
I admit there are some massive pulls on the "big guys" routes that I'm forced to split
1st pull for example, the rare times I've tried to go to the last pack, it was a fast wipe
blazing condor
what levels you doing?
you really dont need to pull all in first room
same for upstairs
echo egret
23-24, in pugs
blazing condor
yeah then u dont need them
the timer is not that tight
you can chain pull mobs towards 3rd boss
and last corridor is just about living tbh
echo egret
last corridor on sanguine is horrible
blazing condor
you dont need to pull the entire boss room for 2nd boss on fort (probably not even on tyr with a coordinated group)
echo egret
you dont need to pull the entire boss room for 2nd boss on fort (probably not ev...
I always skip one of the caster packs
ravager + dog packs... I never pull these together
blazing condor
the safe play is to pull first 2 packs out with LoS
then take big patrol
then dogs either by themselves or with casters
echo egret
yeah that's my usual stuff
blazing condor
ive timed those level keys by just holding W
not really doing anything fancy
but yeah the timer is pretty tight
so you cant really wipe
echo egret
And pugs is a good recipe for wasted CC / kicks
chilly brook
Throne is a very forgiving timer
You can go fairly safe, what’s going to ruin it for you is deaths
grim pilot
every key on 23-24 has a forgiving timer
unless the dps literally plays with a blindfold on
which happens to be the case quite often
dusky canopy
Wait you don’t play with a blindfold?
torn gulch
lol wtf a central pillar?
)
wooden radish
@patent osprey you gonna take that from him? You’re so tall, you could step on him
patent osprey
what even is that lol
strong forum
ye
patent osprey
i havent done an atal 28
wooden radish
Nom is talking shit about you
patent osprey
in forever LOL
strong forum
yeah its from dec19
but gotta say
people SERIOUSLY underestimate pwar
we take literally 0 dmg
even in everbloom
pliant trout
no one cares about tank dying lol
strong forum
seen plenty of fotm rollers just fold against 2 mobs
pliant trout
if they removed the cheat death trinket maybe it changed a bit the situation but not a lot
pliant trout
vdh/pala carry cheat death trinket and it doesnt matter what "they are not so tanky" they have a second chance without ruining the pull
most my runs are depleted by people dying around me or not having enough damage to time, or sometimes i do mistakes >u> but that to lesser extent
strong forum
ya
and vdh and pally are just the best at preventing that
you just want the DPS not to flop
tank generally doesnt matter
and whilst we do have alot of stops, i myself would also rather just get a pally
cuz you cant trust random tank #37 to actually do well
whereas pally doesnt have a choice, their rotation includes a kick
vdh's ive seen insurmountable amounts just flop randomly
but also seen pallys that die to treeboss before the 2nd thorn goes out
its super hit or miss
pliant trout
wm tree or dht?
anyway it gets boring cause the interesting keys are gated by the system/social stuff (you need to know good players to play with) and system lowers your key level so you can't retry. just a time waster.
warm plinth
Ya around 27/28 is when keys become really punishing we're noticing
around 27/28 is when your cuteness becomes really punishing I'm noticing
gottem
strong forum
Ayo?!
grizzled nova
most my runs are depleted by people dying around me or not having enough damage ...
If you don't have enough damage to time then your dps are playing poorly or you aren't pulling big enough, usually it's the pulling big enough once the key level is higher.
No tank is an outlier for surviving these pulls, the pulls are just limited by the increasing amount of stops and kick coordination required before the healer gets overwhelmed or people start getting oneshot.
VDH has a comical amount of stops for a single person, ppala has a comical amount of external utility and kicks for one person, so they're the two tanks anyone uses.
lusty grotto
@blazing condor garbage vault like always
i oopsied a socket
slapped it on a hero helm lmao
but...
BUT
fyraak dropped nothing
however...
grizzled nova
arms main time
devout knoll
people SERIOUSLY underestimate pwar
People 100% do, I literally struggle to get invited to 24/25 keys I've already fucking done in pugs
but the bigger reason people like Prot Pala and VDH
is they can survive everything they need
and they just handle like the whole groups utility solo lmao
grizzled nova
I don't think anyone underestimates pwar's ability to live.
But ppala can live too, and has a 4s kick cd, and bres, and cleanse, and loh, and wog, and bop, and spell bop, and freedom.
And vdh has 5 aoe stops and 2 silence sigils.
devout knoll
That's the thing, like both vdh and pala can survive and they both brings ton of utility in their own ways
Like I don't remotely blame people for not wanting to take a warrior over a tank that does everything a warrior does and more lmao
it's just frustrating when you're the one playing the warrior
grizzled nova
they just need to ctrl z illuminated sigils I dunno what they were thinking
pliant trout
the best part blizzard devs all know this and just laught about us complaining UuU
winged slate
Just you wait, prot warrior is getting reworked into a support tank that buffs everyone with a variety of different ways to yell
warm plinth
Finally vicious mockery comes to wow
winged slate
Yell at your DPS to do more damage, and they do
Scream at your healer to heal more... and he will
devout knoll
they just need to ctrl z illuminated sigils I dunno what they were thinking
Either the sigil thing needs to be removed or they should be made to make a choice between their AoE stun and extra sigils
or just something along those lines
they just have too much atm
devout knoll
Scream at your healer to heal more... and he will
unironically though
like abilities to bolster your allies could be super cool
Play more into that commander leading the charge type vibe
winged slate
I still genuinely want that pally CD back, but for warrior
The "stand behind me" thing where you hold up your shield
and everyone who gets in has a fat DR
devout knoll
I know it was sarcasm lmao
pliant trout
i mean overall
winged slate
Aegis of Light
warm plinth
RNG DR*
winged slate
Nobody ever took this button though it makes me sad
pliant trout
dr is shit
devout knoll
intervene spell reflect
pliant trout
should be at least 40
hearty palm
Whats our stat prio for prot
warm plinth
I love that the reason everyone always gives for x tank being meta is "their utility"
pliant trout
wow balance is total dogshit
winged slate
Lmao 20% aoe dr is shit good one
warm plinth
Whats our stat prio for prot
ilevel>haste>crit>=vers>mastery
hearty palm
ilevel>haste>crit>=vers>mastery
ty
pliant trout
i am saying m+ format and raids are incompatible balance wise
m+ need bigger/contrast numbers
raids can be as they are
devout knoll
I mean it's definitely a thing
but I also get why blizzard want classes to feel the same regardless of the content
Buttt they for some abilities like Darkness
their power is changed depending on party size
pliant trout
yea thats why it always will be bad UuU
devout knoll
which is definitely something they could do
pliant trout
hopeless
warm plinth
Idk what contrast numbers means. But why does M+ need bigger numbers in general? Abilities that need to be stronger in M+ generally are.
pliant trout
i mean some specs will suck
warm plinth
e.g. Tranquility, Revival, Darkness
pliant trout
contrast higher range
devout knoll
But it's also an avenue to boost classes struggling in M+ but not raids, aka warriors lol, why can't rallying cry perform better in mythic+?
warm plinth
Oh god, not rallying cry again
winged slate
Yeah 20% DR is so bad in groups, that's why Disc priests take the absorb which doubles in strength in a group
Oh wait
No they don't
warm plinth
where's apb
winged slate
They take the 20% DR
warm plinth
@toxic pewter your people are here
pliant trout
20% is good but not that good
it's literally brining damage from 1KK to 800K
for example
yea it's cool but nothing breaking
winged slate
Yeah so it "heals" for 1m on the group
devout knoll
Oh god, not rallying cry again
Again don't sit there and pick out specifically the fact I mentioned rallying cry, it was just a group CD that came to mind, missing the wood for trees
winged slate
That's pretty good for 1 button
warm plinth
Again?
winged slate
If every button on my healer did 1m I'd be pretty good
pliant trout
yes thats the problem of group ideology as i said wow i balanced around raids
m+ is different more dynamic and fluent
winged slate
You just explained why a 20% DR is huge
and then go to say that it's bad
Which is it
devout knoll
the fact is, you can't balance raids and m+ together that precisely, it'd make sense to have some numbers tweaked for party size like they already do for some abilities
winged slate
I mean, that's the difference between living and dying
pliant trout
especially
devout knoll
it's nothing new or revolutionary
pliant trout
you need to stand still to channel it?
i mean pala ability
so you can't do anything else
devout knoll
they could just do it for more classes and if the abilities are still the same, it maintains the feeling of the class across content which blizzard wants
pliant trout
thats a relative huge penalty
winged slate
Good thing you can just W key after the big aoe happens
Anyway the point isn't really about the flavor of the ability
It's suggesting that giving prot more tools to empower their group would be nice
warm plinth
It was a prot paladin ability, and as a tank you spend a lot of time standing still anyway. And you would only need to stay still long enough to get the value out of it. 90% of the time you're not even going to channel it for longer than a second or two.
pliant trout
nah, they should cut the op control from other tanks
cause most dds are getting degenerate from such gameplay
and can't do mechanics without it after
lol
and ofc dungeons are overtuned with spam casters
just bad design
they should just tune it down
winged slate
Enabling players with strong abilities that reward you for planning ahead is good game design, simple as
pliant trout
overall
right now it just causes a huge disparity between tanks and thats it has nothing to do with player skill
warm plinth
I will agree that the amount of spam casting mobs is too much
pliant trout
there are too many obvious things but they won't change it
or it will take literally years
to slowly adjust it, with smart face
grim pilot
I love that the reason everyone always gives for x tank being meta is "their uti...
tank is fine
I get that
but when people say that about dps
"havoc is meta because of the utility"
yep because ret doesnt have any
if by tanks utility you mean the fact that dh has like 15 sigils and can solo cc mobs half the day, and on top of all that shit not needing any heals because they're simply unkillable then that's understandable
sick sentinel
and prot pala with funny offheals and giga utility
sac etc
u cant run havoc without a pala
they die in 30s
to everything
yoda might be speaking facts about fury and ret getting popularity in 32s
in really hard to live dungeons in general
warm plinth
if by tanks utility you mean the fact that dh has like 15 sigils and can solo cc...
My point is that this is literally the only time that utility has even come into it. Prot paladin took over prot warrior's place in the meta despite nothing changing utility-wise for either spec.
Metas have shifted in the past plenty of times and utility had nothing to do with it
tank meta, specifically
sick sentinel
the only condition under which veng isnt meta is if it cant live shit
quite the contrary this patch
- its a 0 effort tank
compared to the rest
warm plinth
I can't say literally the only time because Blood DK in Legion was a thing w/ consumption
sick sentinel
prot warrior needs more utility
mass spell reflect / safeguard
etc
something unique
imagine mass spell reflect on focused tempest 1st boss throne on a high tyran
warm plinth
Safeguard being taken away was kinda dumb
sick sentinel
or on flameshocks on third boss
mass reflect would fuck so hard
and it would be really cool prot specific utility
they should bring back banners as well
warm plinth
Mass reflect would be pretty fuckin OP. But I could see them doing like when you use SR, it gives your party the DR
which would still be very good
sick sentinel
they could make it 2 target only
u + nearest to you
and add a dr banner
u should be able to intervene sr
as well
intervene is useless as it is
unless u have someone who cant wait for u to get aggro
and in that case u let him die
warm plinth
it has very situational uses, but the only one that would even exist this season would be scary as fuck for you too (snap dragons)
sick sentinel
i mean imagine being able to intervene spell reflect wrecking pain on yazma
that would save ur healers cds
and mana
while dealing massive damage to the boss
lusty grotto
that reminds me
im 100% sure that intervene doesnt do shit for etch
but i wanted to check a log as proof
and i used it last night on an etch so i need to look at that
it def doesnt (and never) worked on swarms in BRH, which is a perfect opportunity to have something usable
winged slate
Does intervene do much of anything anywhere?
lusty grotto
if its magical then yea
queen hemlock
Something is up
I do not have stance changed macro or on any keybind
But randomly in the middle of pulls my stance chanve
Anyone seen this issue before?
lusty grotto
its shadow damage so youre right
yeah we've heard it before
change specs or something iirc
queen hemlock
In the middle of m+ keys?
lusty grotto
obviously not
queen hemlock
As in it occurs in m+ keys
What should i do then
lusty grotto
zone out
and change specs fast
not a lot more you can do
it shouldn't be a common issue
hasnt happened to me ever, just some people have asked in here before
if the zone line is far, your options are limited
reloading and/or alt+f4 and relogging
grim pilot
and prot pala with funny offheals and giga utility
and ppal does no dam
literally negative damage
in keys
thats the biggest issue ppal has
queen hemlock
I see....
Was doing some 23+ keys then i kept seeing my stance change in the middle of fucking pulls
Suddenly melting to each AA is terrifyingly
lusty grotto
bad pallies do bad dps yea
sick sentinel
yes but certain specs arent playable without one
queen hemlock
Still thanks ill try
lusty grotto
good imp consecrating pallies slap
grim pilot
what's a bad pally
it's a fact that on average ppal does much less damage than brew vdh or prob bdk with lego
it's a gap they cant beat
and while brew is not in the meta (idk why), bdk is getting oneshotted on cd in keys, vdh lives like nothing happens and does insane damage + excellent crowd control
lusty grotto
vdh dpsing is slightly easier than maintaining and not overwriting an imp consecrate
andy does well
but obviously that's not the average prot pala
if they cant manage their tier then absolutely
their dps is garbage in that case
strictly on keys, more specifically any non rank 1 key
grim pilot
also if I'm not mistaken (this is what I heard, I haven't gotten any actual insight) ppals tend to over-glory
instead of spending HP on damage
which also results in piss damage
warm plinth
ppals shouldn't be using HP on wog unless they're literally standing there doing nothing
Because spending HP on "damage" is also spending HP on living
median tulip
im 100% sure that intervene doesnt do shit for etch
Intervene only works on melee and ranged attacks, not spells, IIRC
lusty grotto
Intervene only works on melee and ranged attacks, not spells, IIRC
thanks captain obvious
median tulip
thanks captain obvious
Well it clearly wasn't obvious or you wouldn't have been testing Etch
warm plinth
fuckin noob
boosting the server so people think you know things
special color ass bitch
lusty grotto
imagine knowing what damage type is every single spell in the game
def not me, im new in skyhold
orchid mural
in legion u could intervene spells tho, i remember doing it on the nightmare bolt Xavius DHT.
alas, no longer
lusty grotto
you could in TBC
up to that point
hmm
i dont really remember xavius's intervene but safeguard was a thing
all i rememebr is that i def did intervene + SR in arena when i was big on it
and it worked in mana tombs and shit
warm plinth
My cat is such an attention craver, since I can't say what I tried to say
He climbed the back of my chair and is currently laying on top of the pillow which is held on only by an elastic band 
lusty grotto
warm plinth
Wish I could get a picture but he's an ass; he moves every time he notices me trying to get one
warm plinth
I have to try to finish my trading post tomorrow
lusty grotto
hmm what do you usually do if youre late?
lusty grotto
im just surprised you havent completed it yet, have you not been playing?
taking a break?
warm plinth
eh there's just a lot of shit that wasn't done in the course of things this time around
Tasks just didn't line up
lusty grotto
ah
warm plinth
I wanna know why WoW freezes every time I click on my other monitor
warm plinth
you're supposed to say oh that's just this one thing, and then tell me how to fix it
lusty grotto
but all i know is that most performance issues im seeing lately are due to weakauras
violet ginkgo
<a:catjamhypers:745409048626856036>
kek the name
oblique belfry
Hello all, i have question: i have [Augury of the Primal Flame] [Fyrakk's Tainted Rageheart] [Gholak, the Final Conflagration] can i get proc fire dmg for [Ouroboreal Necklet]?
lyric cape
Hello all, i have question: i have [Augury of the Primal Flame] [Fyrakk's Tainte...
Yes as far that I know all 3 are able to proc the effect of the necklace.
oblique belfry
Yes as far that I know all 3 are able to proc the effect of the necklace.
thx very much. i try it use
hearty stump
I'm trying to get into tanking and I feel generally up to like 20s I can -mostly- faceroll with ignore pain and shield block with the occassional shield wall if it's a bigger pull. My question is how do you do it in like a +25? Do you have to preplan every single longer defensive for a specific pack? I.e. you look at what pack does what damage before the dungeon and plan the route in accordance to your CDs?
From what I gather I'm mostly spamming ignore pain and shield block whenever I'm on the casual spend rage process for defensives, but then the actual big boy defensives are still a mystery for me.
ionic fern
I don't pre-plan my route considering my defensives.
You should know what pulls will hurt you (you can notice it even on 20s), and just assume that those pulls will hurt even more on 25's. 🙂
So that's where you wanna pop a SW/SR/Spell Block/Dstance.
Generally speaking, any pull where there's emphazis on magic/bleed/dot damage, you should consider using a defensive.
For example:
EB 1st boss area if you are pulling 2+ caster packs;
Doti:Fall - 2nd boss area, most mobs there do magic damage with their abilities;
Luckily, our SW is only on a ~1 - 1.5m CD and Spell Block 1.3m
hearty stump
So you mostly will have them both for every larger pack
And I guess it's just going over routes of every single dungeon and every pack, going over their spells and then deciding on the defensives?
I used to run a BDK, but that's a very reactive spec, where as as a warrior it feels like if you're chunking, it's already too late.
ionic fern
Honestly, just run the dungeons on 20's.
Get used to the route, see what hurts, use a defensive there next time.
If you take a look at Tides for example:
1)First pull is the whole corridor - hurts like hell
2)Second pull is 2 doggos + mini-boss, does almost nothing;
3)3rd pull is whole corridor - hurts like hell
So what do you do?
Use all your defensives on the first pull because the 2nd pull is pretty much irrelevant tank damage, so no defensives needed there, and by the time the 2nd pull is dead, you will have defensives again for 3rd pull.
opaque quest
im new in skyhold
Most important thing here is to remember that tier lists and streamers are always to be followed. We are just here to tell you about it. Oh and make sure to craft lariat and dont use gholak
ionic fern
You do need to know what hurts you, yes. Using Spell Block/SW to actually MITIGATE the big damage should be your goal.
Way too many people get smacked down to 30% instantly, and then panic pop SW.
jagged pier
hearty stump
Way too many people get smacked down to 30% instantly, and then panic pop SW.
literally me
opaque quest
Warrior is just DK with shield calling it
hearty stump
If you take a look at Tides for example:
1)First pull is the whole corridor - hu...
Alright. And then how do you deal with the dog pack? Just curious since every single time I fall flat. Mostly after all of the dogs are dead but I've seen tanks pulling both the dogs and an extra pack with it.
ionic fern
From there we:
-CC the oracle of the big pack near the middle area and pull the 2 packs together;
-Pull the CC'ed oracle + the mini-boss;
-Chain the mini-boss into dogs once the Oracle is dead;
-Chain the mini-boss into one of the side packs;
When chaining dogs, be sure to check your DPS'ers CD's.
They need to die asap, or you die.
I'm a dwarf + i run with an evoker, so i can dwarf 1 set of bleeds and ask for Evoker to dispell 2nd set.
You shouldn't need defensives for the double pack
So you should have them up by the time you chain into doggos.
hearty stump
Does SW not work on bleed damage?
And if you're in a situation where you have zero bleed removals?
ionic fern
It does.
hearty stump
i.e. I'm not a dwarf and there's no evoker
ionic fern
Stuns + run away.
hearty stump
Valid
ionic fern
That's a solid pack to go into dstance.
And definitely be sure to have SW up before going into that pack.
hearty stump
Any other packs that you personally go into dstance for off the top of your head?
ionic fern
In that specifc dungeon?
-Both corridor pulls;
-Dogs;
Rest you can swing more or less fine, unless the healer dies randomly.
hearty stump
Alright. I'll try and figure out the other dungeons. I remember there being a website called tanknotes but seems to be completely dead now
Are there any other sources similar to it?
ionic fern
Nothing replaces in-game experience.
Alternatively, youtube videos i guess.
If you have any specific dungeon in mind, ask away.
hearty stump
I will most likely spend some time running the same dungeon over and over and will refer back to here if I have particular issues or ask for advice. I do watch prot warrior commentary videos on YT but it seems that only Tattman does the higher ones. And even then, they don't go over the thought process of their rotations and speak about the packs. Which is still valuable either way.
ionic fern
Jeah, not much commentary content for warriors.
If you want to record a dungeon, feel free to - i can go over it after and comment.
Or even if you wanna discord stream one, i can watch it and comment as we go.
echo egret
I guenunely wonder (I only run pugs) how I can hope to pull the whole 1st corridor without seeing big issues. Like people DPSing too soon and I lose aggro, like people not kicking the casters enough, or killing the dogs, dying to the Crushing Depths, etc.
ionic fern
That issue becomes less irrelevant on higher key levels tbh.
echo egret
Or getting smacked in the back by these raiders.
ionic fern
20-25 is a nightmare.
echo egret
I'm 3130 running 23-24s and I can tell you it's elo hell
echo egret
The number of people who ignore basic things at that level, omg
ionic fern
Ya, but it's been like that since forever.
echo egret
I would say it has displaced up a little bit from previous seasons
ionic fern
Idk, 20-25 always seems the area of bad people.
jagged pier
0-25
ionic fern
Most get stuck there thinking they are amazing players doing big DPS w/o any consideration to any utility that would actually help them time keys.
"WHY NO KICK???"
Asks the DPS player who got 1 shot by an ability with their kick off CD.
"I CAN'T KICK IN CD WINDOW I LOSE DAMAGE".
echo egret
My favourite is "let's forget that lone caster in the back, to focus my big AoE DPS on the big pack"
echo egret
And their defensive usage as well.
opaque quest
Pressing a personal isnt a dps gain on details even tho it would increase their overall dps because they arent eating dirt
Cant have that
ionic fern
Tbf, i'm 100% guility of that whenever i try to play my mage.
I'm looking at my bars 90% of the time to ensure i'm using my abilities properly, instead of looking what's going on around me.
opaque quest
Im the type of person to press them to much so i dont have another when i need it <.<
ionic fern
opaque quest
Just play frost. Im doing the same lol. Its so simple i can focus on the fight
opaque quest
ionic fern
I still mess up my ST opener from time to time and ability sequence based on Icecicles.
opaque quest
Oh ye same
ionic fern
Gearing is a pain.
jagged pier
true
opaque quest
I enjoyed frost DK last season. 2 buttons with 1 CD
ionic fern
Having to farm 15's just for crests is also..horrible.
tired crystal
Vault day!
Ironshell Pendent Mythic, and Amulet of Eonars Chosen Mythic, all in one vault
What do i pick!
Ironshell gives me my 7.1k haste, Eonars Chosen gives me higher sims (by like, 100dps)
Or mythic branch, damn
ionic fern
Branch.
merry pond
@hearty stump Give me some time, I might go back to playing my prot. What do you feel is lacking in the videos I have for this season?
Prot rotation is pretty simple. You have your ST one and your AoE one. It's fine that you don't do a perfect aoe one whilst pulling, because you need to get threat and live as well.
Keep shield block up, use shield wall whenever you need to, you'll get it up for next pack.
Don't put backs to adds.
Now if you're talking about route consideration it fully depends on your comp. Probably want an aug, so you have some more stops atleast.
IDK, lmk broskie.
opaque quest
Whats an AOE rotation for prot kek
merry pond
Currently it's basically the same IG lol. Not even sure anymore since I've barely touched mine for 8 weeks. But I guess you prio TC over SS, unless you have a high health prio target.
opaque quest
You dont. You still prio SS everytime. Unless its like 10 targets then you still prio SS but use outburst on TC
merry pond
well without a prio target it's kinda worthless to prio ss?
Even if you increase your damage, it means you're killing one target faster than you kill the rest of the pack, making it somewhat irrelevant, apart from if you're playing with a capped group.
That is talking about pack sizes of 8+
tired crystal
Branch.
Why branch over two mythic necks?> I have Rageheart and Signet currently heroic
Also have ironshell/eonars at heroic
opaque quest
well without a prio target it's kinda worthless to prio ss?
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hRwWCQfK3ckZbF18#fight=4&type=damage-done&source=1 Even in Everbloom SS is prioritized. This is from the second highest rated Pwar in the game Pika. Im sure dude knows what hes doing
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/dcn81hmHMVWRgCNj#fight=2&type=damage-done&source=6 This one is fortified and it looks the same
ionic fern
Why branch over two mythic necks?> I have Rageheart and Signet currently heroic
Should be a dps increase if you're into that. Necks are generally easier to farm.
tired crystal
Should be a dps increase if you're into that. Necks are generally easier to farm...
What trinket would I replace? The rageheart or signet?
ionic fern
Sim yourself.
tired crystal
Does Raidbots take into consideration the trinket effects?
merry pond
@tired crystal for damage my bet is you replace rageheart
ionic fern
Yeah.
merry pond
However it's not in any way taking the shield you gain into consideration
@opaque quest not sure how you measure if ss or tc is prioed. If you just look at total casts that doesn't mean much. However in EB you always have a prio target. If anything has higher health that's a prio target, besides higher health, in EB you always have a mob you want to kill ASAP.
hardy snow
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hRwWCQfK3ckZbF18#fight=4&type=damage-done&s...
EB is bad example, you do ~20% of whole dung dmg on last boss.
high mesa
Neck is BiS for fury
blazing condor
too bad i play arms
opaque quest
EB is bad example, you do ~20% of whole dung dmg on last boss.
Im not looking at dps. Im looking at rage gain. I might be mistaken and cant check because no sub but SS generates more rage leading to more AM and outburst = more deeps more avatar more SW
ionic fern
Generally speaking, SS should be the go-to priority, even in AoE.
Generate rage with SS,cast IP,get fervid proc, reset CD of TC, cast TC.
opaque quest
Generally speaking, SS should be the go-to priority, even in AoE.
Generate rage ...
Just checked in with my buddy. SS 15 TC 5. I knew i wasnt stupid
opaque quest
Yeah amgery juice
tribal wharf
please lord let my amazon package be delivered
opaque quest
My new Headphones just got shipped out 20 mins ago. If they dont arrive tomorrow ill throw a baby tantrum
tribal wharf
today is the day..... copium
opaque quest
tribal wharf
thats how i feel about my 360 with the controller except i feel it should have come with working controller
like technically come with controller and battery, but its like selling me a truck and the gas tank is fufll but we drained it of all the oil
so now, you gotta tow it back home
WHATS THE POINT IF I CANT USE IT / have to fix it lmao
opaque quest
Wait what you bought a console with no controller? lmao
tribal wharf
well was on fb marketplace, which really do i even need to continue? no but i will
and i said, ya, lik does it turn on and work and all that, ya he says, brings it with controller and battery, works as advertised i guess
cuz thats whats important to me, that it "lives" and works properly, isnt destroyed junk,
opaque quest
We have a website/Store in germany that specializes on old consoles and controllers and stuff. Its great. Dunno if they deliver to the US. Konsolenkost
They buy old stuff and refurbish it
tribal wharf
this ones a corona xbox 360
hopefully it doesnt red ring and die on me, catch some type of infection from online /joke
tribal wharf
i think i was attempting to purchase a trinity mobo model one, but as long as this one lives im not complain
apparently trinity seems to be the best overall motherboard, jasper good too i've heard due to what you said, they hard engineered against RROD
tribal wharf
amazon package is on its way
and im type of person, at least as far back as 16 bit and prior, i'd probably go get the real hardware and game and a crt, the crt tv is something you cant put into words or easily show on a display
if i found i actually enjoyed some nes or sega genesis game
opaque quest
Playstation controller
tribal wharf
that, and those are ps3 controllers, which i bought already, @ionic fern, this was from 2020 when i fished my neighbours working ps3 out of the trash
opaque quest
But ye these fake ali express simulators work
tribal wharf
so, i literally already did that lmao
well wait
whatever that is meant to be, i dunno, seems like usb to windows wireless adaptor for controllers? not sure if that would work on 360 (drivers) good idea though
opaque quest
It wouldnt. I checked for the dongle yesterday and the Xbox apparently uses a different code for their controllers
The OG Xbox works. 360 doesnt
tribal wharf
game stick, i'll show you my damn game stick
all these retro consoles better too, cuz instant reset button, short game that takes maybe an hour or 2 to beat, just my opinion
opaque quest
I have a mini SNES somewhere. I love it
tribal wharf
what, that thing with a like 2.5 foot controller?
tribal wharf
the expression on his face says EVERYTHING
hopefully yours came with a bigger cord than this one
opaque quest
Thats what smol pp people say
hearty stump
<@677629835937316894> Give me some time, I might go back to playing my prot. Wha...
Ah shit, didn't know you were here. I think there's three parts when it comes to doing commentary. Especially in your +27 AD video that you did which I took for reference. I'm speaking from a perspective of someone who would like to get to that level and what's generally the most valuable to me:
- What is the most dangerous ability/thing/NPC in the pack that you're pulling. This bit you covered extensively, going into MDT and so on - loved it. Was a great help.
- Now that you're in this situation, what's your thought process regarding your rotation. E.g. "I see my health yoyoing, I'm opting for Ignore pain over, revenge consistently, I know that this pack has X NPCs that are dropping magic damage. I can comfortably survive by solely using spell block without utilizing SW because I know that the pack after is heavy on physical damage where SW will help greatly." - This bit I felt was missing. Naturally - this is more relevant for newer players and probably might not be as interesting for those who have been playing protection for quite some time. But even then, it could provide insight to those who have been stuck in a templated rotation without thinking outside the box. I'm certain you have unique ways of doing things compared to other warriors. A great example would be noting the spells that make sense to spell reflect in a pack due to the mitigation that it gives. Since we might be busy just trying to survive by using everything else other than SR, and shedding light on that may give even the more experienced protection warriors a "Aha!" moment.
- This ones a bonus and is generally very subjective - but incorporating the above with the group composition. Similar to the previous discussion I had about the dog pack in TOTT. If you don't have an aug in the group, or you're not a dwarf - explaining how would you do things differently on that specific pack in comparison to when you would.
Regardless of those points, the information you shared was still extremely valuable and you earned a sub from me and I will be recommending your content to my friends and acquaintances.
hearty stump
If you want to record a dungeon, feel free to - i can go over it after and comme...
Apologies, was in meetings all day. I'd love that truth be told! Although I'd still need a few runs to better grasp the concept before showing how I get clapped in dungeons.
merry pond
@hearty stump I did this more in Shadowlands I feel like. I think playing warrior was way more complex at that time.
Currently you can have a 100% uptime of shield block. You can shield wall, and then spell block aferwards and basically shield wall straight after again (almost).
You don't ever really prio revenge, apart from to reset SS or TC.
In the end I only played my warrior for like 3 weeks this ssn. Then I reached the point of everyone in the group dying to bosses and went on my paladin.
Thanks for the kind words. I'll think about it next time.
lyric cape
Gz
hearty stump
<@677629835937316894> I did this more in Shadowlands I feel like. I think playin...
What are the odds of getting title as a prot war this season if it's that bad
tribal wharf
not even transmog huh
jagged pier
not high doable but u neec a group to make it more likely
blazing condor
need to be one of those stubborn pwarrs who have a good team around you
strong forum
your biggest wall is getting invited as pwar
not the keys themselves, just getting the invite
hearty stump
your biggest wall is getting invited as pwar
I sat for 3 hours queueing to a 25 as fury. Idk how bad is prot for pugs.
strong forum
prot has it easier than dps to get invited
but its still the biggest wall
cuz the keys themselves are a joke to tank
merry pond
What are the odds of getting title as a prot war this season if it's that bad
Eh it's been just as bad before. I'll still probably aim to get into title range on it.
hearty stump
Eh it's been just as bad before. I'll still probably aim to get into title range...
Drop some commentaries when you have time then;)
hearty stump
like i did 27/28s yesterday without breaking a single sweat
I think my MW dreams of a day when I get to that point as prot.
opaque quest
but its still the biggest wall
Last season when druid was so good i couldnt even get invites to 17s with 3k
ionic fern
like i did 27/28s yesterday without breaking a single sweat
Do Rise/Throne with a random pug on 27/28. 
strong forum
i had maybe 15% defensive stance uptime in those keys
throne is different cuz they got dogs
and rise has the magic tankbuster which no other key has
ionic fern
Well, most other keys are free anyways for a tank.
EB could become spicy as well, depending on how big of Naturalist pulls you doing.
ionic fern
We pulled 3 naturalist and the biggest issue was getting them grouped.
And then casts went through
Ggwp.
ionic fern
Oh, totally.
Hense the "depending on how big of Naturalist pulls ".
😄
If you do 1-2 Naturalist in the beginning at a time you chillin.
strong forum
you can infinity chain if you only do 1 at a time ye
hearty stump
Seems like there's still quite a few dungeons that have difficult walls either way
ionic fern
Most of the walls come from DPS dying tho.
tribal wharf
i'm still having sanguine PTSD after last week
i keep expecting EVERYTHING even open world shit to do it when its about to die
i hate sanguine (as it is)
hearty stump
Most of the walls come from DPS dying tho.
I mean in terms of damage taken for the tank
ionic fern
Jeah, it's also a lot tied to people interrupting properly and not overlapping CC.
hearty stump
VALID
ionic fern
I depleted a DHT 28 yesterday because the DPS'ers overlapped their CC's/Silences on the Elemental 4 tiny boys.
hearty stump
That's one of those moments when the entire DPS team decides to share a single braincell
ionic fern
They were actually solid for the rest of the key tho. No issues whatsoever.
No idea what happened there.
ionic fern
That one i pugged ya.
Usually we did keys in a group of 4, but for the last month or so, we've been pretty AFK. 😦
So i try to pug from time to time..but as Nome said "your biggest wall is getting invited as pwar".
echo egret
I depleted a DHT 28 yesterday because the DPS'ers overlapped their CC's/Silences...
Is there any single addon that can help on not wasting CC/kicks in a pug without voice comms ?
ionic fern
No idea, haven't looked into it.
tribal wharf
i think the overall problem with keys are the affixes need differing affixes that do new things or the same thing in a different way
ionic fern
All you can do is track the CC CD's of your DPS'ers and save yours.
echo egret
My overall gripe is how unbalanced things are. Too many "don't push" weeks vs "push weeks". Too many "only class xx can deal with that affix" . Too many "incredibly lenient timer vs super tight (partly due to intelligent respawn points". toom any "stupidly easy boss" vs "hitting super hard".
tribal wharf
i could ask for less demanding less threatening affixes too but thats nevcer gunna happen
blazing condor
so many stinky affixes have been removed
echo egret
Well the ones that have been added (namely incorporeal and afflicted) are utter bullshit since only a few specs can handle them.
echo egret
Sanguine and spitefull still have waaay too much of an impact on the timer.
Saying we warriors have something for them is a gross exaggeration.
tribal wharf
so they will end up like necrotic and teeming and get removed because it focuses on one player (tank) doing everything right? except, its the same, except now its healer getting fucked over? seems like healers got screwed this expansion
i mean, i think healers always complain regardless? but i dunno
explosive is, just explosive diarhrea affix
chilly brook
Sanguine and spitefull still have waaay too much of an impact on the timer.
Sanguine is a non-affix
Spiteful isn’t bad either tbh
opaque quest
Watch me play frost mage in a sanguine week and spam blizzard
echo egret
I strongly disagree. It does increase the time taken. Exactly the same for spiteful.
chilly brook
You can disagree but sanguine is a free affix week
opaque quest
Watch me make it unfree by spamming tar traps
tribal wharf
storm bolt go
tribal wharf
yeah well
echo egret
Increasing the time you spend, makes any mistake or wipe fail the key when you would still have time.
tribal wharf
hes at 1% hp, then i sanguine, and then i SB him he heals for 4 seconds worth of ticks (at least)
chilly brook
Not been in this mystical sanguine makes keys unplayable world
tribal wharf
GG i dunno how much that healing is, but im gunna be shit a brick when i see that
echo egret
And thee are a few incredibly tight timers where the sum of all time wasted due to sanuine or spiteful, even without wipes, can turn a timed run to an untimed one.
chilly brook
GG i dunno how much that healing is, but im gunna be shit a brick when i see tha...
You can out dps sanguine now
echo egret
I never said "unplayable".
chilly brook
Not when the healing stacked no
tribal wharf
im just used to bfa affixes
tribal wharf
permanent bolster 10 guys cuz i killed A RAT
blazing condor
BFA was 6 years ago
opaque quest
Time is brutal when you get older lol
chilly brook
And thee are a few incredibly tight timers where the sum of all time wasted due ...
Wild look at those affixes
opaque quest
All i need is MoP classic then have the merge the transmoggs so i can grab mage CM on my own account
Then have them do the same for Legion so i can grab DH mage tower and have 36/36 skins
jagged pier
All i need is MoP classic then have the merge the transmoggs so i can grab mage ...
yer thats not happening
the merging part
mop classic probably
opaque quest
yer thats not happening
jagged pier
tribal wharf
jagged pier
https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414
dont get me wrong i want it as well
cause then i get zulian tiger
opaque quest
Yeah na. Youre right ofcourse but a man can dream
violet ginkgo
https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-cat-monch-cat-monch-spinfal-gif-19376414
imma give you another classic one
Also Jakey, how can we check how much we reflect at "details" addon?
jagged pier
its just there in details 🤷
violet ginkgo
its just there in details 🤷
I can't find any... or am I seeking the wrong section
restive scroll
I can't find any... or am I seeking the wrong section
Maybe because you didn't reflect anything, it's in damage done
It should be*
Only in the addon details thought, not warcraft log
violet ginkgo
Hmmm I am 100% sure I spell reflect fyrakk's tank buster like 4 times? but not registered. Unless the spell reflect doesn't reflect the damage back, only negate few?
restive scroll
Is not a reflect, it's a deflect
waxen frigate
restive scroll
You don't take damage, neither does fyrakk
violet ginkgo
ah so just completely negate some portion of his attack?
restive scroll
Yeup
strong forum
You negate the magic dmg from the tank buster with SR
jagged pier
violet ginkgo
Yeah I have the docs saved up I thought "deflect" is doing damage back too to him. that's why I was seeking it
but it's fun though, I saw the warcraftlog, out of 7 hit I deflect 5 XD
blazing condor
violet ginkgo
thx for the picture dog 
warm plinth
Top tier
toxic pewter
<@185160009074737153> your people are here
lol i was complaining about that before it was cool
warm plinth
Ikr
violet ginkgo
im no ms pain expert on genji
you should make fyrakk vs genji (when he deflecting)
opaque quest
Endgame is the most ambitious crossover e
lusty tiger
Beautiful
strong forum
A real trooper
tribal wharf
this is a fuck about find out game
uneven mason
That game looks familiar but I can't place it
Like graphics are too good to be Mordor 2
opaque quest
You god damn 6 year old
opaque quest
I will never get over the x at the beginning and end of your name
uneven mason
Seeing as there's no actual prot warrior writers on wowhead...
warm plinth
warm plinth
Do we have a war within wishlist on wowhead?
We did, but it got taken down because it was just one long whinefest
@ionic fern or @strong forum pwar wowhead writer when
uneven mason
There was something posted but it was yanked down because iirc it literally had nothing to do with warriors but just talking about how it's not prot paladin
jagged pier
well as they basically write the icy vein one i doubt they want to do wowhead
as wowhead requires far more usless information
warm plinth
There are multiple writers who do both
strong forum
i dont do anything icy veins related
blazing condor
do you do the API?
strong forum
ye
blazing condor
pog
jagged pier
he checks with u sometimes
uneven mason
Like, math
blazing condor
🤢
jagged pier
its not maths its a giant if statemnet
warm plinth
It's one of those like 1000 character nested if formulas in excel kek
lusty grotto
for the leggo
lusty grotto
im fucked cause i xferred to illidan so i dont know anybody
strong forum
you dont need 100 skill to craft it
lusty grotto
can it be level 1 toons or something?
strong forum
so you can get anybody from your server who is willing to learn a random profession
and craft it rq
and then just work order it
lusty grotto
ive dropped 120k on mats xD
lusty grotto
yeah
lusty grotto
was thinking about asking my friends to make new chars in iillidan and just taking them to valdraken to learn the professions
strong forum
should work
lusty grotto
nice, ill try it
violet ginkgo
Do we have a war within wishlist on wowhead?
I mean... do blizzard even listen to our wishlist though? we talking for class right aka warrior?
jagged pier
of course they dont
u shouldnt even want an article like that, u should have your own list of thing u want to see not what someone tells u we need
gloomy vortex
Every other class has one on wowhead so I wondered as some light reading
cursive prawn
They are more likely to act on wowhead articles as opposed to random forum posts and the like
So there’s merit to this sort of thing
opaque quest
should work
Defo does. I used a teleport to Valdrakken to use the crafting station for my T3 crafts with a lvl 1 char
strong forum
They are more likely to act on wowhead articles as opposed to random forum posts...
thats basically confirmed
cuz wowhead brings publicity to things like bugs and stuff
and if alot of people know about it, its more of an issue for investors and the games look
so shit gets fixed
like fyralath
only took 5 wowhead posts 🙂
tribal wharf
imma go play that game more, except for i wont die in 2 minute 31 second again
opaque quest
Almost like this bilion dollar indie company cares about image and not the game
Who couldve known
opaque quest
imma go play that game more, except for i wont die in 2 minute 31 second again
Did you finally get your controller?
hazy bronze
Almost like this bilion dollar indie company cares about image and not the game
Shareholder return*
tribal wharf
oh ya, died to poision dmg for lack of a better description
or no, when i opened evil tome and summoned armies of hell
opaque quest
Shareholder return*
Good image = shareholder return i think but ye. Moneeee
minor quartz
Dumb question, and I should know this but- does the DMG stack on Soul Goliath impact Soul Thorns?
lusty grotto
no
it only affects his auto attack, crush and his aoe when you clear
thorns is unaffected
minor quartz
Alright, that's what I was thinking. Guess I should have just googled that, lol.
lusty grotto
its the same damage regardless
not a dumb question, dont worry
a lot of people dont know
opaque quest
Some people here have asked worse questions. Youre good
steel shale
Does leggo drops even in tank spec ?
lusty grotto
yes
steel shale
Aight thanks !
uneven mason
Alright, that's what I was thinking. Guess I should have just googled that, lol.
Thorns is thankfully only affected by key scaling now.
violet ginkgo
so shit gets fixed
But why warrior class often forgotten
uneven mason
Because we're not popular
We're the fat dude who's your center lineman in HS football, does all the work while the QB gets all the attention
blazing condor
Yea
But u only need 1 skillpoint
So unless you got profs urself you can just do it solo
lusty grotto
yeah ill just ask around for a person
opaque quest
Just get someone else. No level needed
lusty grotto
chrome falcon
god i love being highly skilled at this game
got both smolderon trinkets on mythic
none of my dps do
jagged pier
yer dont know why u would choose it
chrome falcon
i don't need the sockets or anything else in there, i'm almost literally perfect gear
chrome falcon
true but makes for a better screenshot to have it in my vendor buyback when i @ all my dps players
plush tendon
need it for the trinket collection
gotta show off your swag
got a nice Mythic Pips sitting in my bag
pallid quiver
true but makes for a better screenshot to have it in my vendor buyback when i @ ...
Matta swinging with power moves here
winged slate
https://tenor.com/view/not-today-satan-nope-stay-away-preacher-pastor-gif-144503...
Is it ethical to swing a bible as a weapon?
uneven mason
Is it ethical to swing a bible as a weapon?
Sure, bibles have been weaponized for centuries
opaque quest
We are warriors. Everything is a weapon
winged slate
Not literally
