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grim pilot
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I got dragged to tank 23

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forcefully

warm plinth
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Getting 5 pieces of loot from a key was fucking amazing

grim pilot
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it was a boost run and I had to tank

boreal heath
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Yeah but I feel like that dungeon felt really bad w/o md, emberon had the invisible laser thing that could just end your run

uneven mason
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3 pulls LETSGOOO

grim pilot
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meh md wasnt taht important really

warm plinth
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Yeah til end of xpac when they buffed 2nd boss and you never made it past it

grim pilot
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not saying it was useless

uneven mason
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Yeah critcake

grim pilot
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but I timed 27 tyra without priest

warm plinth
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Also imagine Ymiron on high keys now

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No pet taunts anymore

uneven mason
grim pilot
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it just made 1 more boss a "challenge" instead of it being pretty much piss

warm plinth
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And I don't think even 20 sec SR is enough to gert them all

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No I mean the tankbuster

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get*

uneven mason
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Oh right, no artifact st

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Sr*

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Block atkeast

warm plinth
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Yeah I assume it would be spell blockable

uneven mason
warm plinth
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They have to nerf any Legion keyt hey bring back though anyway

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Tyrannical was a completely different beast back then

uneven mason
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I mean I'd expect brutal charge to be blockable

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But

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You know

warm plinth
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Brutal Charge?

uneven mason
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Erm

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Haymaker?

warm plinth
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3rd boss BRH?

uneven mason
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The charge in brh

warm plinth
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oh, haymaker is the tankbuster. I know what you mean now though

uneven mason
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Yeah operating on a 103 fever

warm plinth
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rip

vagrant cape
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More specifically to the rotation, where do we stand in terms of speed? What is the gcd (roughly) if you have high ilvl gear in m+ and how many ogcds are we cramming?

grim pilot
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Spec is not that much fast paced, you just have 1 (2 if you count shield block) off gcd buttons that you press

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1 of which is just part of your rotation that you might as well just spam mindlessly

warm plinth
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Not that much fast paced. It's only one of the highest APM specs in the game, nbd.

grim pilot
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yeah but that's buffed by IP

warm plinth
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It's still a button you're pressing

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And we have like a 1 sec GCD with haste stacking

grim pilot
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Idk my reference point is fury

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which is like similar apm

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and is MUCH more fast paced

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hell, i think fury is even lower last I checked

warm plinth
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Fury isn't as fast paced. They don't have anything off GCD except cooldowns.

grim pilot
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yep and you press button every like <1 sec or something, idk man it feels giga fast paced to me

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esp in reck

warm plinth
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It's fast, don't get me wrong

grim pilot
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which you have basically most of the time due to talent

warm plinth
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But pwar is the fastest tank with ppal

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and not many specs in general are faster

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Outlaw is one of them due to having a .8 sec GCD like 80% of the time

grim pilot
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isnt AR even like 100% uptime in keys or something

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well in aoe, big pulls

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or did someone spread misinformation to me

warm plinth
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Probably like, 90%

lusty tiger
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90-100 depending on the affix and dungeon

boreal heath
boreal heath
blazing condor
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If u need to take several charges that makes the meta to use battle stance cus higher chance of parrying

tribal wharf
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my biggest gripe with protectiong warrior is single target mlee ranged kick only by default

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i mean, its a kick,, just, so much feels bad when you go to hit kick and your not in range, or your not targeting right person to kick, or just in general fail to properly connect the kick (let alone "effeciently" at "correct" kick timing (first tick for noxious in atal dazar, or better to kick at very end

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bleh, it makes something simple very technical

lusty grotto
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pummel is a punch

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if youre not targetting the right person consider setting up focus target macros

tribal wharf
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spell interrupt that does a silence, when i was rogue for many years it was kick

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literal was kick

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for me at least

lusty grotto
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yes its globally called a kick

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but pummel is a punch

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thats what it has a closed fist as an icon

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and the name pummel

tribal wharf
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i'm just done malding over keys that fail cuz i didnt kick something and nobody else is either

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aint about it not more

warm plinth
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I don't know why you have that many problems kicking stuff

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I've never had an issue kicking on pwar

frosty mango
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Target mob, press pummel

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Are you struggling with the target part or the press pummel part - this is a serious question

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There’s ways to make it easier

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You also have shockwave and stormbolt which can act as an interrupt on (relatively) short cd

boreal heath
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Whatever happened to shield bash

dusky mica
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Add Pummel to AM.

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Remove those 2 talents that reduce Pummels CD and put something good there. The tree needs a good looking at,

toxic pewter
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World of Warcraft Forums

In Dragonflight Season 4, we’re going to try something new. We’re preparing a remixed set of gear for each specialization. To determine what that means for each class and spec, we’re asking you to vote for your favorite class look and your favorite specialization set bonuses from the first three Seasons of Dragonflight. This means that in Seaso...

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new season 4 info TIER SET REMIXES

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VOTE NOW!!!!!!

kind glen
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I mean we choose S3 Set Bonus imo

toxic pewter
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season 1 look s3 bonus imo

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im having most fun with this tier personally

kind glen
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^ 100%

toxic pewter
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s2 was fun but when it comes to talents it made us lose 1 point to get bolster

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s3 also more fun in the end imo

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I was first to vote

kind glen
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It won;t let me lol. Says due to high load its making everyone view as a logged out user.

toxic pewter
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oh god.. the season 2 people are coming in

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first vote i was

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mark it down

torn gulch
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so what are we choosing?

toxic pewter
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s1 look, s3 bonus

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s2 was fun and all, but it made us spend a talent on bolster

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so that is out in my book

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but i have a worrying suspicion people will vote for s2 for some reason

teal swift
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Choose the one that was fun, not strong.

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Blizzard will ruin tuning.

kind glen
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Yeah, S3

toxic pewter
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s3 is most fun

teal swift
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I'ma vote for S2 🫠

toxic pewter
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yeah

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gross

teal swift
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Wtb hide blocked messages on mobile

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So much spam jfc

teal swift
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You just do the same shit you always do

silk kiln
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Wdym

teal swift
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And it gives more damage

silk kiln
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So like s2?

teal swift
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S2 had some cool interaction

silk kiln
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Like what lmao

teal swift
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S3 just does more damage with 0 interaction

toxic pewter
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s3 is more interactive actually, have to play around the fervid proc and getting fervid

kind glen
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S2 is just press a defensive and then after forever you can cleave with SS. Kinda bad gameplay imo

strong forum
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s3 for prot

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not even a question

toxic pewter
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yes

teal swift
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Nah, I'm voting season 2

primal crypt
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s3 for prot 100p

toxic pewter
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i think season 1 look is just undeniably the best

strong forum
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yea

toxic pewter
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the prob with season 2 is the talent situation

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i dont want to deal with that anymore

teal swift
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I just think fervid was cool, but in practice

strong forum
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prob with s2 is, is that s3 just better in every way

teal swift
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It just felt like nothing.

toxic pewter
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ya s3 owns tbh

teal swift
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I don't trust blizzard tuning

toxic pewter
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lol

strong forum
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s3 set is just better in ST, better in aoe

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more tanky

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there is no downside

teal swift
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I doubt they'll slap it 1:1

primal crypt
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so tanky

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so strong

teal swift
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They'll take the design and retune it

strong forum
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why would they tune it

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its s4

kind glen
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and it makes a nice "squelch" noise

teal swift
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Because it's blizzard

strong forum
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the "we throw random shit at you season"

toxic pewter
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is season 2 more fun though i think that apparently is how people would vote

strong forum
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its the 0 effort season

torn gulch
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s4 will have a small amount of resources allocated to it

toxic pewter
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i have more fun with season 3 but i think the masses likes season 2 more

primal crypt
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two devs for the whole thing

teal swift
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It's a vote, so I'll vote with my low IQ feel craft

strong forum
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fucking vdh getting s2 set

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its over

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pack your bags

kind glen
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They said they're mgoing to be updating the bonuses in the post. No real idea what that actually means really.

teal swift
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I just don't wanna argue with nomer

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He's smarter, younger, and more invested than me

kind glen
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Just vote for whatever, no one is gonna take your birthday away

primal crypt
strong forum
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no

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s4 is already a skip season

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for the dungeon pool alone

torn gulch
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i don't give a shit i'll play any dungeon

uncut juniper
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whats the dungeon pool?

torn gulch
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most likely all df dungeons

uncut juniper
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all nativ dragonflight dungeons?

teal swift
primal crypt
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The whole DF dungeon pool

toxic pewter
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wow forums melting down rn

torn gulch
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i'll play a season will all the worst dungeons in this game

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it's the same to me

prisma crane
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i dont recall S1 lol

torn gulch
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uldaman and halls of infusions will be meh

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the rest are fine

teal swift
torn gulch
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after the nerfs

primal crypt
teal swift
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So you're saying we'll get maw of souls

torn gulch
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it was said in the roadmap announcement

teal swift
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🙏

toxic pewter
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they said we are revisiting df dungeons im assuming it will be all 10 dungeons

teal swift
torn gulch
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let me find the article

teal swift
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Ty

strong forum
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was in the bluepost from blizz

teal swift
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S3 has been sleeper af

torn gulch
strong forum
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"revisiting the dungeons"

teal swift
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I've not played in like 2w

torn gulch
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Dragonflight Season 4 will revisit Dragonflight’s dungeons and raids

strong forum
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s3 is currently the best season

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by far

warm plinth
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@strong forum whatchu think for tier bonus, this one?

teal swift
torn gulch
strong forum
torn gulch
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might see shadowlands ones

kind glen
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S3 is the easiest by far, from a non top tier pushing perspective

warm plinth
teal swift
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It says revisiting the raids, and new m+ seasons

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Doesn't say revisiting dungeons does it?

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Or is it not on the powerpoint

torn gulch
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yes in season 4

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WW season 1 will prob be 4 new dungeons 4 old dungeons

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might see shadowlands ones

kind glen
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It's in the text, not the Slide

strong forum
teal swift
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Ty

toxic pewter
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wtf at season 2 appearance winning.. yikes O_O

teal swift
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Saved me so much research

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@strong forum I give headpats

torn gulch
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you just ahd to read

strong forum
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i cant vote

torn gulch
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had

strong forum
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cuz i dont have a level 10 on US realms

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fucking

teal swift
toxic pewter
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everyone please vote for season 1 appearance

strong forum
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kiss yourself blizzard and your wonderful forum system

torn gulch
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reading is research nowadays yikes

prisma crane
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i only see 12 votes for prot warr set bonuses

strong forum
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absolutely fucking dumb

teal swift
strong forum
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no

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its US only

teal swift
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LOL

strong forum
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like always

teal swift
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Fucking based LOL

toxic pewter
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im sure eu one will come up soon... ?

strong forum
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all "important" forums and polls are US only

toxic pewter
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oof

strong forum
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same as in SL s4

teal swift
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That's cringe and hilarious

kind glen
strong forum
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vote could only be done on US forums

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PTR feedback forum is also US only

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kiss yourself

teal swift
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So you're saying

toxic pewter
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ngl as an american I would like EU to weigh in also something tells me NA gonna mess this up bad and do both season 2

teal swift
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I get to troll the votes

prisma crane
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ngl

teal swift
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Aren't most of the theory crafters EU

prisma crane
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for appearance

teal swift
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For tanks

prisma crane
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i would like to choose from Legion

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not a fan of any of DF appearances

teal swift
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I literally don't give a shit about appearance. I'd like legion as well, so we don't have to farm old content for mog

weak spindle
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Uh yeh bliz I want uh. T3 yep

prisma crane
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hell, the world sets look better

weak spindle
rancid dagger
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oops thats the fury one

toxic pewter
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oh wow eu does have them nice

upbeat orbit
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S3 right!

toxic pewter
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s1 appearance s3 bonuses imo

teal swift
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@strong forum

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You're saved from another rigged US election

weak spindle
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I cant remove the embed

teal swift
weak spindle
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Mobile moment

teal swift
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You can

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Surround link with < >

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<link>

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Like this

weak spindle
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Someone done it for me

strong forum
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👋

weak spindle
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👍

lusty grotto
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i did my part

teal swift
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Wouldn't it be great if the set bonus followed the vote per region

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So if na voted for s2

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And EU voted for s3

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They'd get different sets

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🤑

strong forum
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that'd be hilarious

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2 different metas

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imagine all the tierlist copers

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completely losing it

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different talent builds and different metas for different regions

lusty grotto
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well ima just drop by the bear one and vote for s3

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and uhh

strong forum
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woah you really hate bears huh

lusty grotto
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LOL

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i dont im joking

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but for science is s1 the worst vdh one ?

strong forum
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yes

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by a long shot

lusty grotto
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and s2 the worst pally one

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🤔

toxic pewter
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prot warr meta by force

strong forum
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go vote aug s1 set

teal swift
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LOL

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I like how y'all think

torn gulch
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did my part for season 3

teal swift
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Honestly I'll vote for s3 prot war because even if fervid is lukewarm with minimal interaction

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I like seeing giant fucking numbers

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LOL

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Which I found fun

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Fervid in BRH last boss

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🍪

lavish sphinx
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Which S4 look and set bonuses is everyone voting for?

teal swift
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Whatever I'm told to vote for by cute girls

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Will trade my vote for egirl attention

torn gulch
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i voted season 3 bonuses

warm plinth
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S3 for prot bonus hmmNod

lusty grotto
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we all did

toxic pewter
torn gulch
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look i dont care as i have transmog

warm plinth
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Idc about appearance. I'm not gonna use it anyway

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Does it say how long we have to vote? It's bogged down as fuck rn

toxic pewter
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should still vote i can foresee we getting new colors maybe or something

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7 days to vote

warm plinth
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Ok ty

torn gulch
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lol season 1

warm plinth
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I don't even remember what s1 was

lavish sphinx
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I recall some sadness moving on from the S2 bonus

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S1 was Revenge absorb shield

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Or something

warm plinth
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Oh right

torn gulch
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bad bonuses

warm plinth
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Idk s2 was fine but s3 is better

median tulip
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I can't even remember what S1 Tier Set was

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S2 I enjoyed

lusty grotto
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garbanzo beans

late wasp
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I'd like for them to tweak it to where the DR has a 2% scale per target like S3 has

toxic pewter
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they intentionally made s1 bonuses weak iirc so i have a feeling most wont vote for s1 bonuses

median tulip
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Oh yeah that, that was crappy.

lusty grotto
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tweak nothing, its garbage

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compared to s3

late wasp
median tulip
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Hmmmm, 2 or 3, 2 or 3

lusty grotto
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s3

late wasp
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I'm doing my part

median tulip
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Really I just want to anti-vote against S1. I don't mind which of S2 or S3, just not S1

lusty grotto
median tulip
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I'm gonna leave it for a couple of days and see if I need to vote a particular way to stop S1 from winning.

lusty grotto
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s3 is better dr, better damage

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it beats s2, period

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we've had one whole expansion and 1 season of bolster, let it go

teal swift
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Tuning is being changed.

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Play the one you enjoyed.

lusty grotto
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wont be the last, expansion will probably present new opportunities

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shut up yuzu

teal swift
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Wow, rude

sudden grotto
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@strong forum where s my 3 seasons tierset bonuses pin

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to compare and make a wise informed decision

strong forum
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Vote S3 tier.

strong forum
sudden grotto
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no

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i ll vote s2 without any info

teal swift
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Good choice

lusty grotto
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vote s3 for bears

sudden grotto
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and make everyone vote s2

lavish sphinx
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Hahahaha

teal swift
hollow bolt
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i forgot what all the sets did

sudden grotto
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so u re in pain

lavish sphinx
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Pinned it

hollow bolt
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s3 is random more dragon roar

lavish sphinx
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I want to know what Ja Rule thinks

lusty grotto
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ja rule thinks you should vote s3 for bears

teal swift
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Just pick the one you thought was the most fun.

sudden grotto
lusty grotto
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im jk dont bully bears

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bears are friends

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also i dont wanna upset Mrs Sense

lavish sphinx
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They just want a picanic basket

strong forum
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S1 was revenge gave 5sec buff of 5% dmg and DR + 10% of dmg done gave IP
S2 was cdr on LS from SS + dmg on SS + aoe dmg from ss after LS ended
S3 is bleed consumption on SS + DR + TR cdr + tc reset

teal swift
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@split needle is based and this is what we should be telling people.

lavish sphinx
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I missed this place. Guild asked me to raid in Shadow Priest and I was suffering

sudden grotto
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i havent geared warr but s3 tierset sounds fun

lusty grotto
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vunter i hope youre doing the right choice and picking s3 for SP

strong forum
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It's the most engaging set so far

teal swift
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The best solution is just what sounds fun to play. Not what was tuned a specific way.

strong forum
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And gives you the fastest play style

lusty grotto
strong forum
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  • best numbers
lavish sphinx
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Hahaha

teal swift
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Numbers don't matter

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They are retuning the bonuses.

lavish sphinx
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I don’t think I could do that to them

brave jetty
lavish sphinx
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S3 Shadow set is awful

teal swift
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But fervid and roar loop was cool

lusty grotto
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yup i know

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im jk guys dont bully SPs either okay

brave jetty
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inb4 s3 look s1 bonus

lavish sphinx
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SPriests bully themselves

hollow bolt
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s2 fer me!

lusty grotto
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tf out of here

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wait you mean appearance right

toxic pewter
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could season 1 bonus actually be pretty good if they tune it to be as strong as the others

lusty grotto
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if so, i can respect that

toxic pewter
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yeah it definitely sucks ass

strong forum
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Passive IP generation is great, but I prefer proper flat DR

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And the TC resets

toxic pewter
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but at least would put an end to the which is better BV or FBV lmao

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i honestly cant understand how people like the look of season 2 more than 1 O_O surely i must be blind

strong forum
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The revenge condition is what's cringe about the s1 set

toxic pewter
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yeah it only lasting 5 seconds felt really bad

strong forum
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If it was SS it would be better

toxic pewter
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yeah dang ss would make more sense

split needle
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With the retuning I would assume they're smart enough to look at not just pure %'s

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but engagement on it as well

toxic pewter
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yeah i wonder if they would make mechanical changes

teal swift
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I'm sure there will be a filter vinnie

split needle
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we prayge

teal swift
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There's no way they just equate random level 10 player

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As 1 vote

toxic pewter
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yah every vote counts

teal swift
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And all xpac long warrior

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As same weight but who knows.

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Data curation is important

median tulip
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I don't care if it's S2 or S3, just so long as S1 loses.

strong forum
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They should legit only let people vote who actually played all 3 seasons of said class

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Or atleast have said class at 70

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Cuz people will grief vote

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And are doing it plenty already

median tulip
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Yup. For no reason whatsoever, what's the worst VDH set?

hollow bolt
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2k io vote only

sudden grotto
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CAN WE PLEASE BAN THE HATERS

split needle
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like you have to actually log into your character

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filtered

teal swift
split needle
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to vote

teal swift
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Lll

surreal thunder
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prot warr season 3 tier set is goated right, just feels amazing

split needle
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so it's good voting or something

teal swift
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Do it like runescape

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Put the fucking vote in game

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And set requirements

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Even if it's just hit levelcap

grand veldt
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please season 2

teal swift
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Little voting booths, once per character

grand veldt
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i beg of you

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season 1 is acceptable

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season 3 is boring and lame

toxic pewter
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why would I want season 2 bonuses where I effectively lose a talent point

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no thanks

lusty grotto
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trolling

median tulip
grand veldt
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season 1 is when prot war was actually meta

lusty grotto
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it wasnt due to the set

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false correlation

toxic pewter
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that was overblown community perception the true meta tank was prot pala

grand veldt
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that wasnt till their rework

toxic pewter
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na

median tulip
grand veldt
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no

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i voted season 2

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because i liked doing a lot of dam and healing with leech

lusty grotto
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bad take

toxic pewter
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ok can u vote for season 1 apperance please

lusty grotto
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i mean s2 appearance is okay too

grand veldt
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like objectively speaking season 3 is the best for tankyness

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i dont doubt that

toxic pewter
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i dont understand the season 2 look enjoyers over season 1 though

grand veldt
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but season 2 is way more fun imho

strong forum
median tulip
toxic pewter
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yeah exactly

strong forum
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Pally was already meta a month before the rework

teal swift
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@strong forum I'ma vote in like 5 days lol

toxic pewter
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season 1 i need the apperances LOL

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but it also looks better imo

teal swift
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Gonna try to sell vote for each class and spec for 10k each

grand veldt
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oh man i didnt anticipate the transmog mains

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its joever

toxic pewter
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nah s1 looks the best though its indisputable

median tulip
toxic pewter
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anyone that says otherwise i question their taste

lusty grotto
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transmogs are a different vote

grand veldt
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LMFAO

dusky canopy
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People will most definitely vote for best appearance LOL

grand veldt
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YUZU IS TECH

lusty grotto
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wdym

grand veldt
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be our warren buffet

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racketeer it all

teal swift
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LOL

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Citrus Scented Election Sales

toxic pewter
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blizzard guy liked my post on forums

lusty grotto
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that must be my dad John McBlizzard

toxic pewter
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yes

rich spruce
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you guys good over here?

dapper sun
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Fury is on fire, hilariously

rich spruce
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Fury bro coming to check in on my prot bros

lusty grotto
#

adulfoh inciting civil war

cinder pasture
#

Why is season 1 catching up 👀

teal swift
toxic pewter
#

yah i noticed that too

teal swift
#

Gotta vote s1

strong forum
#

Cuz people think "prot was meta in s1 so clearly it was because of the tierset"

bleak breach
#

S1 sucks

toxic pewter
#

sigh

bleak breach
#

Gimme more S3

toxic pewter
#

none of this will end well

strong forum
#

And not that other tanks were just weaker besides prot pally

#

They're not voting with logic

bleak breach
#

Quit spitting facts nom

#

You’ll upset someone

rich spruce
#

Sokraxx

#

You are two letters away from having a neat name 😉

bleak breach
#

Haha

teal swift
ruby musk
#

Vote for ultimate feelycraft

teal swift
#

They should vote, what they want. Regardless of reason.

ruby musk
#

S2 felt best because the noise of shoveling gravel into mobs faces. Don't @ me

strong forum
#

Doesn't matter much to me ig

#

Since I for sure ain't gonna be tanking in s4 lmao

#

With that horrid dungeon pool

ruby musk
#

What's the pool?

strong forum
#

DF dungeons

ruby musk
#

Great...

strong forum
#

🙂

#

Aka skip that shit

bleak breach
#

You love it and will tank in s4 Nom

strong forum
#

Cuz I don't miss needing 5 kicks + stun/cc rotations per single pack

#

Or otherwise you wipe and the key is depleted

grand veldt
#

we can fix it

#

if we all vote season 2

#

it fixes itself

#

easy

teal swift
#

You can vote s2 if you want

#

It doesn't really matter

grand veldt
#

yeah we'll see what happens the next few days

teal swift
#

This is basically just a way to drum up engagement for a dead season

grand veldt
#

yeah

teal swift
#

They'll make sure all the tanks, can play in 99.99% of content

#

As they have for years.

grand veldt
#

i mean even if they just continue the way they did this season

#

having 2 solid tanks with the others not too far behind

#

has been really nice

teal swift
#

Yep

#

Even last place isn't that far behind

#

A tier shit won't fix issues really

median tulip
#

What numbers would S1 even have to do to approach S2 and S3 effectiveness?

grand veldt
#

last season it felt like we had to try 3x harder just to get mediocore results

lavish sphinx
#

Dratnos is endorsing S1 across the board lol

grand veldt
#

yeah

#

dratnos got title on warrior in s1

#

and he attributed it to the set

#

directly

lavish sphinx
#

“So long ago, it’ll feel fresh”

grand veldt
#

that's where i got that thought from

teal swift
#

I'll sell my vote, accept whatever we get

lavish sphinx
#

I dropped that factoid in the Prot Pal disc and they started melting down

teal swift
#

It won't largely make a difference

median tulip
#

I'll check back in a few days and vote for whatever will stop S1

teal swift
#

And isn't worth the emotional investment

grand veldt
#

season 1 for prot pal right

#

like surely season 1 was better

teal swift
#

Stress shortens lives friends

teal swift
grand veldt
#

season 2 prot pal was so bad

#

i played that first half of the season

lavish sphinx
#

They say it was Sentinel and not the set bonus that made them good

teal swift
#

Balance be damned tying your tiersets bonus to consecrstion is shit

grand veldt
#

it was like aug evoker minus

lavish sphinx
#

They’re all voting S2 it seems

grand veldt
#

LOL

#

NO WAY

#

omg

teal swift
#

Just get me out of consecration empowerment prison

grand veldt
#

i cant wait for them to die through 2 defensives on 22s

teal swift
#

Season 3 feels bad to play

grand veldt
#

yeah

#

season 3 is objectively their strongest again

#

but not fun

#

at all

teal swift
#

They could literally double the performance from s3

grand veldt
#

you have to play around a weak aura and min max your cons

teal swift
#

And it still.feela bad lmao

#

Did you far finger consecration during empower?

#

Fuck you, start ocer

grand veldt
#

yeah lmfao

#

the season 2 bonus for prot pal the 2 piece or 4 pieces

#

one of them was nice

#

the other one was like a literal dog shit vers buff

teal swift
#

Don't get me wrong s3 feels strong

#

But it's a shit fucking gameplay loop

#

For prot pal

#

So get me out of that prison lmao

lavish sphinx
#

Yeah man

teal swift
#

I like bdk S2 because random vMpirics felt cool

grizzled nova
#

permanent 6% vers for you and a dps is pretty excellent

lavish sphinx
#

Just checked the Disc Priest channel and they’re just short of drawing swords lol

grizzled nova
#

at least the answer is an easy s3 for pwar

teal swift
#

I'll probably vote for s3 prot, just because the gameplay loop is fun and fervid numbers can look sick

grizzled nova
#

ppala is weird, s1 was good for keys, s2 was good for raid, s3 is the best but holy fucken consecrate prison

teal swift
#

But they might nerf it or buff it. So don't consider how strong or weak a bonus is. Purely consider what it does to gameplay

#

And I think fervid is fun, and more thunderous roars are fun,

Maybe we'll get oreberf t31

#

Where it's 100% of all bleeds

sudden grotto
#

imo s3 ppal gameplay feels awful

teal swift
#

It does

sudden grotto
#

the fact that u have to stand in a very tiny circle when having to kite stuff out of places

teal swift
#

Because it's tied to consecration, and everyone hates it

sudden grotto
#

or move or whatever

teal swift
#

I don't mind it, but sanguine weeks

#

Feels giga shit

sudden grotto
#

it s fuckin aids

teal swift
#

And the S3 bonus doesn't make it feel better

#

Consecrstion can be fun, the issue is

#

The affixes just make it feel giga shit

dry cobalt
#

Circle is huge if you know what you're doing.

teal swift
#

Doesn't matter

#

It feels bad

#

Regardless of how strong it is

sudden grotto
#

circle is giga shit as ppal

#

circle feels bad to place on both specs

grizzled nova
#

pwar s3 tier set is giga s-tier, if we don't carry it into next season it'll be a hilarious int

teal swift
#

Again, ignore how strong it is

#

Only consider the gameplay loop

#

They could reduce the DR and damage by 70%

sudden grotto
teal swift
#

Don't forget if you leave

#

You're going to die

#

Consecration be like

warm plinth
#

why would they nerf it though

#

it's a meme season

grizzled nova
#

we're like tied for last in aoe and st lol

#

if anything it needs bumped to like 50% remaining

toxic pewter
#

What is Europe looking like on votes for look and bonus

cinder pasture
#

Set bonus

#

Appearance is tied right now

toxic pewter
#

Thx

empty spindle
#

which tier set is prot voting for

warm plinth
#

3

#

@lusty grotto LOL I was gonna ping you to show you my new name but I see you also are a man of culture.

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

I will simply vote for clearly the best and most influential tier bonus, S1 tier

lusty grotto
#

lol

grizzled nova
#

jfc why are people voting for the s1 set

grizzled nova
#

which had nothing to do with the set lmao

#

smooth brains purposely inting

sudden tangle
#

What was t1 bonuses

sudden grotto
teal swift
#

Mindless brainlets who blindly follow favourite content creator

#

Imagine if asmonfuck told his army to vote s2

pallid quiver
novel temple
#

I sort of wish they’d just have all the tier bonuses available

pallid quiver
#

it just gave you extra stuff for a short time after pressing revenge

#

so it was effectively just a static number buff

grizzled nova
teal swift
#

I said what I said

forest yacht
#

Who on earth is voting s3 appearance

#

Are your monitors on

#

Do you need medical attention?

teal swift
#

Who cares what they vote for

#

It's just mog

#

It's literally all obtainable rn

waxen frigate
#

Surely we aren’t voting on which mog that is already completely obtainable is doubly obtainable

teal swift
#

I'd hope it would be a new colour

#

Should've been a new set of models

forest yacht
#

I’m hoping for new colour

teal swift
#

And we should've mixed and matched 2p and 4p

forest yacht
#

No way it’s literally the same sets

waxen frigate
teal swift
#

Would've been fun

forest yacht
novel temple
#

Actually, you know what they could’ve done, was combine all the bonuses

torpid fiber
vagrant jay
#

So what set bonus are people voting for?

limber sky
#

Prot is dead i go to dh now bye..

warm plinth
toxic fern
lavish oracle
#

I voted for S3 for bonus and S1 for appearance

#

no idea how S2 is in the lead for appearance, it's the worst one by a mile

violet ginkgo
#

I mean dragon themed S2 kind of better than S3 I'd say, I joined at late S2, so I never see what is S1 looked like.

violet ginkgo
# warm plinth S3

Let's say we have S2 appearance with S3 bonus, is there anything else special, about this fated season tier set? I mean what is the difference if it is just appearance, we can just transmog it.

ionic fern
grizzled nova
#

it isn't improving either

ionic fern
#

Holy crap.

#

I don't judge people alot, but that's a really-really-really horrible and weird take.

toxic fern
#

I forgot what was the s1 bonus again?

pallid quiver
#

press revenge get like 4% bonus damage/dr

#

it's

#

very boring and not particularly impactful

toxic fern
#

ahh

#

yeah thats weird

#

I'm fine with s2 or 3 winning but wow alot of people want s1

violet ginkgo
#

I think ppl want to press revenge so bad?

pallid quiver
#

i mean

#

you press revenge a lot with S2

#

The thing is a lot of people voting are probably wanting Warrior to "return" to when it was "GOOD AND STRONG AND UNNERFED"

candid niche
#

it's something about not having to press IP from what i understand, but you'd be pressing it to dump rage anyway

pallid quiver
#

and I think I saw someone say that content creators are saying to vote for S1

toxic fern
#

I think if they made the s2 set give you the dmg bonus during Last Stand instead of after that would make it perfect

pallid quiver
#

literally all of it stems from just having zero fucking clue about anything going on, though

pallid quiver
#

on top of that, just having S2 tier gave a baseline 15% SS dam

toxic fern
#

ahh yeah mb

ionic fern
#

If S1 wins, i'm going to AFK S4.

violet ginkgo
#

I mean why you hate pressing IP though that's kind of our main way to mitigate damage

ionic fern
#

SB is our main way of mitigating damage.

candid niche
#

yeah

pallid quiver
#

If S1 wins, I'm going to petition for the removal of the wow community

violet ginkgo
#

aside from that, the IP help reduce it even more? especially when magic damage involved

candid niche
#

i might have the wrong take but IP is just a button to dump rage

#

that does otherstuff aswell

pallid quiver
#

It's difficult to look at buttons in an entire vaccuum when buttons influence each other

ionic fern
#

IP's really doing work this season tho.

#

Since all you press is SS/TC/IP.

violet ginkgo
#

fervid bite stonks 💪

forest yacht
#

I voted s1 appearance

#

I may vote s2 for the tier just because I didn’t wanna use the same tier twice in a row

#

Even tho I like s3 tier

median tulip
#

I'm waiting to vote until later in the week and then I will vote for whichever of S2 and S3 will beat S1

#

I genuinely don't mind which of those two it is. Just not S1.

toxic fern
#

They would have to drastically buff s1 to make it worth choosing

median tulip
#

They have said that the relative power levels will be adjusted. So it's more about choosing a playstyle. But Season 1 was boring.

forest yacht
#

I don’t care which appearance wins

#

As long as it’s not s3

fast knot
#

Swear to god

#

This set looks like dook

forest yacht
#

The helm is goofy aah

median tulip
#

I voted S1 for appearance because I already have S2 complete and should easily get S3 as well

toxic fern
forest yacht
#

S1 had better glow/visuals

violet ginkgo
#

I just login to game and saw the S1 appearance for warrior..... not really my taste, I think S2 the best among 3 seasons.

forest yacht
#

They all suck

#

Don’t get me wrong

violet ginkgo
#

well I mean if we have to choose 1... then it's s2 for me

timber dagger
#

season 2 tier is fine but

#

it's a bit weird that you get dr/damage buff after -.-

ionic fern
#

Won't we have the appearance anyways already from previous season, so it doesn't literally matter?

forest yacht
#

We’re assuming they’re adding new colours

past torrent
#

s3 set bonus for sure, s2 and s1 were meh. I'd want to see if we do get new appreances first before voting on s1/2 for that, because 3 is bland as hell

cedar river
#

is there a season that sticks out for tier set?

teal swift
teal swift
#

All sets will be fine

cedar river
#

tyvm

teal swift
#

All the sets would be tuned to be competitive anyways.

So it's best to go for what feels fun rather than what logs the best.

jagged pier
#

btw u can vote multiple times

#

so u can troll and vote for the worst

urban portal
#

any 4% dr enjoyers

misty remnant
jagged pier
#

we good now

#

🤷

misty remnant
#

prot warriors yes

#

arms is dog shit XD

jagged pier
#

yer no one cares about dps

#

complain even if u were top

misty remnant
#

playstyle is great in arms tbh but meh im so bored of tanking

forest yacht
#

Which is the weakest vdh set

#

Asking for a friend

novel temple
#

S1

forest yacht
#

Time to rig this election

jagged pier
#

season 1 sets are the weakest

forest yacht
#

Sometimes you need to take the tier list into your own hands

median tulip
jagged pier
#

S1 aug set

#

KEKW

median tulip
#

Prevoker S1 seems to be winning

forest yacht
#

I can’t believe the s1 animals are at 35%

#

This must be some voter fraud or something

jagged pier
#

as the polls can be trolled

#

yes

#

but also ppl liked the S1 set for us because they thought it did somthing

#

when it doesnt

#

and u dont need to think about it

forest yacht
#

And execute phase happens

#

And it’s like oh

jagged pier
#

players dont like having to think

forest yacht
#

They don’t have to think about s3

#

It’s arguably less thinking

jagged pier
#

theres a little bit of thought if u wanna completely maximize it

ionic fern
#

And still played it incorrectly.

jagged pier
ionic fern
pallid quiver
#

war stronk in S1, super meta with the tier set and before the nerfs, obvs

jagged pier
pallid quiver
jagged pier
#

the amount of ppl that spouted shit to me in S1 and all of it was wrong was umm somthing

pallid quiver
#

the people that still spout shit about S1 and it being wrong is something

#

I again bring up "the nerfs" that we got that people quote

#

and when asked

#

they either just make things up on the spot or they're changes from shadowlands

#

like someone told me that the reason Prot War is bad now is because Ignore Pain was changed to a cap of 30% max HP

pallid quiver
#

I think their implication was that it was a higher amount beforehand

ionic fern
#

Just agree with them.

pallid quiver
#

I just leave most of the time

ionic fern
#

"yes,prot is bad,dont play it,go away".

#

Then we don't have to deal with them.

pallid quiver
#

I guess I should do my community service

#

I've just been, "Well, I'm not dealing with them so I'm fine" as I go off to play other games

ionic fern
#

I got invited into EB 25 yesterday and then they yelled at me cause i was slow to move enemies out of Sanguine.

#

With the 60% slow on me and a pally who used Freedom 0 times.

#

WARR BAD.

jagged pier
azure nimbus
jagged pier
#

just save avatar for the slow

azure nimbus
#

You won’t have it for every time you have to bait tho

mystic radish
#

On Nymue Mythic when do I use reflect? As of now Im using it as "def" to reduce magic dmg. But I noticed that sometimes it shows that it reflected something. I dont find it listed in my logs tho "Damage Done" -> "Spell Reflect". Am I stupid? Or was it just a "bug" showing me it reflected something when it really didnt?

jagged pier
#

i u can view reflected stuff in logs

#

its also most likely u deflect something not reflect

#

but u just sort of use it on tank buster

#

or when u tank with debuff but u have spellblock for that anyway

#

u can basically on nyme just press it on cd

mystic radish
#

Hm then im doing it wrong.
I use reflect and block after taunting w/o debuff and def stance + wall/last stand when taunting with debuff.

jagged pier
#

because thjeres always pulsing magic damage

#

the boss does no damage if u dnt have bomb debuff

#

like literally nothing

mystic radish
#

Didnt wanna try it :p But good to know. So I can keep spell block for debuff.
Are you going def stance then or might it be enough to just block and wall up?

jagged pier
#

i just spell block

#

🤷

#

and play as usual

#

its not a problem boss tbh

mystic radish
#

Gonna try thanks 🙂

#

Would you use Ember of Nullification for M+? As we are running Spell Block and Reflect it doesnt seem that nice. Any experiences with it?

jagged pier
#

ember null is aweful

mystic radish
#

Just have seen many tanks running it ^^ and I am new to tanking

opaque quest
#

Probably because of the high amount of vers or lack of other options

restive scroll
#

Or dps that just tank a bit

bleak breach
#

What you guys running for mythic Volcoross? How rough is it without spell block?

restive scroll
#

Since it's pretty good for vers requirement in high key

jagged pier
bleak breach
#

Fair

blazing condor
#

now blizzard is making us vote for tier set look and favorite tier set bonus for s4 peepostudy

#

s1 looked the best and our s3 tier we have now is probably the strongest ?

jagged pier
#

definatly dont manipulate anything

#

but u can

blazing condor
#

they really arent trying to do anything new for the game rn

#

lets just let the ppl choose what to bring back

#

cant wait to run the same tier set in the same DF dungeons

opaque quest
#

Did you really expect anything else

#

Even tho bobby is gone there is still a board of directors that has the same perspectives

limber temple
#

The idea of us voting for our tier bonus and look feels new to me. Not sure they have ever done that. Isnt that the whole point of the greatest hits season?

blazing condor
#

its definitely a new thing

#

but the whole "greatest hits" season is just lazy

#

thats my gripe with it

#

id rather have a patch with new content than "omg fated"

jagged pier
#

greatest hits but all DF dungeons

#

and probably DF raids

opaque quest
#

HoI and Uldaman are the the greatest

#

At being the worst

blazing condor
#

i wonder what tier set ppl are gonna vote

#

cus if the perception was "warrior was op" in s1 then they gonna vote for that tier set

jagged pier
#

s3 is winning

blazing condor
#

even if it had nothing to do with it

jagged pier
#

but there can be a lot of trolling on the votes

#

so expect

#

S1

blazing condor
#

i love revenj

#

s2 was kinda cool tho with last stand tbh

#

just weaker

#

also bolster yuck

opaque quest
#

Nice crunch sound on SS tho

blazing condor
#

greenbear this just means we gonna be playing exactly the same for like a year

#

only with worse dungeons

jagged pier
#

thats why next season is a shkip

blazing condor
#

sadge then what

jagged pier
#

u enjoy the summer outside

blazing condor
pastel atlas
#

what?

blazing condor
#

hope s1 wins the mog vote though cus hopefully they come out with even more colors for it

#

its a cool set

opaque quest
#

Love that it doesnt even occur to doggy to just unsub for a season keks

#

Bobby would be proud

jagged pier
#

nah dog unsubbed for a long time

#

in SL and S1

blazing condor
#

big true

#

i skipped all of s2 almost

opaque quest
#

Time for unsub 2 electric boogaloo

blazing condor
#

honestly

opaque quest
#

I skipped the whole of SL after CN

jagged pier
#

SL raiding wasnt too bad

#

but god the rest was aweful

blazing condor
#

cn was dope and i had a good time doing sod

limber temple
#

CN was the nuts.

blazing condor
#

i actually raided in a guild during CN

opaque quest
#

Remornia

blazing condor
#

thats why it was fun

limber temple
#

Sire is my daddy and he can take me.

blazing condor
#

cant wait for SL classic

jagged pier
limber temple
#

😂

round vortex
#

Are we uniting in this vote?

jagged pier
#

no

#

because its troll able

#

so we pray

round vortex
#

We could at least try and get it together lol

limber temple
#

Every time I vote I just get told %NaAN% and the page takes ages to reload.

blazing condor
#

you gotta order naan bread

limber temple
#

I do like a Keema Naan.

#

I vote that.

jagged pier
#

literally the best kind

blazing condor
#

man now i want indian food

#

too bad its mad expensive

jagged pier
#

well get a job

#

🤷

blazing condor
jagged pier
#

true reaction tbf

limber temple
#

Stop going to Pret and buying avocado or something....

#

You can afford all the things then.

#

More Keema Naan for example.

jagged pier
#

true no avacado on toast

#

and u can buy a house

blazing condor
#

just gotta have a firm handshake

#

if kids wouldnt buy all their starbucks drinks they would be able to support their family on their 9$ an hour pay

jagged pier
#

true

#

ppl just afraid to grind nowadays

#

just lazy

#

smh ppl

blazing condor
#

all they do is sit at home and play world of warcraft or something

opaque quest
#

For 9 an hour i wouldnt even leave the house wtf

blazing condor
#

well you see if every customer tip 40% to the worker then its okay

#

🙂

jagged pier
#

for 9 an hour im not even accepting the job

opaque quest
#

In Germany minimum wage is 13

jagged pier
limber temple
opaque quest
#

And thats in Euros lol

opaque quest
jagged pier
#

yer but mericans and waiters thier salary is tips

#

like actualy deadge

pallid quiver
#

If we're talkin' $9 an hour in like, 1890 pay, I'm down

jagged pier
#

true dat

blazing condor
#

i love feeling obligated to pay $10 extra because you as a waiter gave me what i already paid for

jagged pier
#

i just dont

blazing condor
#

no hate towards the waiters working for tips cus theyre the victims

#

of the system

#

but still

#

get yo ass outa here

median tulip
#

Your USian tipping thing is just... weird

#

Pay your fucking workers

jagged pier
#

why would they pay their workers thats lost of capital

#

cant be doing that

upbeat orbit
#

bro the money is mine my workers don’t get none of that shit

strange abyss
#

I love not paying tips because I'm in EU

limber temple
#

I much prefer making restaurants take off the optional 14.5% service charges from my bill.

strange abyss
#

We have 20% VAT on EVERYTHING here in UK 🙂