turn it off private
#protection
jagged pier
echo egret
lol
done
Btw @jagged pier was that you who did a video about analyzing our own logs, like a couple expansions ago ? It was very useful with actual numbers for reference.
jagged pier
yer it was me
but kinda different and the same now so we dont really push it anymore
u still look at the same things but context is difference
so the old vid isnt that helpful
but in general your fine
better rage management and sb management
everything else is pretty much fine tbh
echo egret
okay thanks
jagged pier
better outburst management
u favour TC over SS it looks like
but all kinda minor tbh
echo egret
How do you see that already ? Number of TC while outburst procced ?
restive scroll
How do you see that already ? Number of TC while outburst procced ?
You can also see that detail on wowAnalyzer, I do not know how to check them in logs
jagged pier
as we kinda only care about outbursting SS for rage cause tier set
echo egret
You can also see that detail on wowAnalyzer, I do not know how to check them in ...
I remember there is a way. But not how.
restive scroll
I remember there is a way. But not how.
same :D
If wowAnalyzer finds it, there is clearly a way
maybe analyzing the timeline, but I prefer wowAnalyzer in that case :D
strong forum
Jakey just showed you how
You enable outburst aura filter in dmg done breakdown, and can then see casts done while outburst is up.
echo egret
Aaah, I didn't see his reply
strong forum
And the first SS/TC cast wit the aura up was buffed/consumed by outburst
restive scroll
oh, missed the arrow
strong forum
Meaning you sent 58 outbursts on tc and only 40 on shield slam
This is from my wcm24 yesterday
I sent 110 outbursts on shield slam and 11 on thunderclap
echo egret
Yup got it
strong forum
Also got my first compliment of playing prot in that key
pallid quiver
People give out compliments for the most whack shit
the real way to get compliments is to play like shit, but not bad enough for the run to fail
pallid quiver
you forgot what actual shit play looks like
pallid quiver
I've heard you stream, I haven't heard you suffocate on your own skin yet
your average wow player can not survive a single day without assistance
jagged pier
he literally complains all the time 'what am i doing' 'arghhh im shit'
while playing literally near perfect 😂
pallid quiver
technically there will be a point where you can't get any better because the game's encounters are static but that's so pedantic and ignorant of the human factor it's not even worth discussing
blazing condor
If i’m ”soo good” then how come im literally not perfect and best
jagged pier
because youll never be sense
grim pilot
Also got my first compliment of playing prot in that key
I got it in eb 24
Mw told me that I’m a really good tank and sry for key (the guy actually felt very good too, kept up with my crazy pulls)
Also think dh or bm said that I tanked really nice
blazing condor
i am have no problems accepting that
sick sentinel
there, i deleted it so you dont have to
but like, seriously, +11's vaults fillers isnt really interesting conversation either :S
i dunno, im just struggling to see why i should think about and log into wow
jagged pier
dont. like me
sick sentinel
only a game man
im not taking serious at all these days, could give a shit less tbh
jagged pier
so quit
sick sentinel
you wish i would
jagged pier
no it just sounds like u want to tbh
sick sentinel
oh i didnt block a bunch of hits in 11 wcm and caused ppl to die
positive uplifiting stuff to talk about
earthshattering never been done before content
so its like, yogi, go do 20s and time them or gtfo
and post logs of them so we say how bad
jagged pier
we've literally never said that, we have asked u multiple times to no post random youtube ads and random youtube videos
which u continually keep doing
if we want to keep coming in here and complain about dying and refuse to use any of the advice gven to u, we cant stop u its annoying but in general terms its fine for the server and the channel
sick sentinel
well whats the advice right
sick sentinel
like the thing i asked about in dht how to pull the big second pack and not pull the right hand side and also not wipe the group
jagged pier
for u to turn around and say u didnt even read or listen to it
so im not doing it again
jagged pier
no you have been given perfect advice for all your questions everytime i have looke
u refuse
to read what ppl tell u
sick sentinel
but thats where we are at
thats how i feel
im totally frustrated, exhausted and burnt out, i don't feel like quitting however
i just wanna take things a little easier and stop stressing out sorry for being such a pain in ass @jagged pier
blazing condor
and i asked a bunch and didnt really get good answers
what kind of answer would you have wanted to hear then? regarding the pull in DHT. Cus clearly the ones that everyone gave wasn't good enough?
mystic radish
Any recom when running fueled by violence instead of brutal vitality? like have % haste or have % leech?
Or just have % brain?
mystic radish
Same goes for pain and gain. Didnt feel that really worth taking. love the lower cd on leap instead. Am I wrong or is it just preference?
jagged pier
i mean sure
blazing condor
i dont use pain and gain i much prefer bounding stride
blazing condor
i mean its a pretty big heal now that we got like 1,5m hp
but things also hit harder so
not much gain from the pain
teal swift
Y'know what's fucking stupid?
Unpasteurized dairy is illegal.
I can go to store and buy sticks to bathe my lungs in cancer
I can go to store and buy drink to bathe my liver in death
jagged pier
yuzu
teal swift
I can even go to store and buy drugs to kill my state of reality.
But no, I can't get raw milk cheese
😾
jagged pier
there was a conversation ealier about posting random out of context stuff
can we please abide by it
k thnk
blazing condor
hazy bronze
But no, I can't get raw milk cheese
Dairy lobby 🙂
teal swift
forest yacht
You probably dont remember me, but you helped me alot thinking about my abilities more
thanks friend
blazing condor
azure nimbus
You probably dont remember me, but you helped me alot thinking about my abilitie...
I do remember it was for EB second boss no ?
Glad to see you're having fun and you keep on progressing !
gg buddy 😄
harsh trellis
This week should be an easy week
azure nimbus
especially on tyran
Look for timer charge, try to be maxed on IP leave melee cd def + IP tank charge then while you're leaving melee try to already target the caster boss, charge immeditaly and start regen/ip
forest yacht
week is over 
tyran is coming
azure nimbus
you'll reduce the time you're not on melee this way
harsh trellis
Yeah it should be an easy week this week
lusty grotto
huh
what is this advice
just use spell block
and use wall in spell block cds
thats it
SR every charge
lusty grotto
like IP shouldn't matter
toxic pewter
wait when do you leap before or after the charge
harsh trellis
And charge back in
lusty grotto
back hits no bueno
grim pilot
Well after
blazing condor
wait when do you leap before or after the charge
after
toxic pewter
ok right
lusty grotto
you dont need to leap before
blazing condor
he hits and you jump out insta
azure nimbus
You're on first caster to interrupt the most and help dps, you track charge from boss, you leap, and while leaping you re target caster boss
this way
you're reducing the time you're not on melee
lusty grotto
the idea behind not using charge is avoiding a back-hit while the dot is ticking
forest yacht
is there any way to pull the dragon in fall 3rd boss out of gunk when its just sitting there, the fire one that doesnt follow you
forest yacht
ah like around the wall?
lusty grotto
first part i just slowly ktie around the back wall
harsh trellis
Yes
azure nimbus
what is this advice
This is an advice like all the other cuz some charges you may run out of cd def so you still have a shield to tank the charge and in tyra in higher key charge + dot can really hurt you if you only have a spell bloc
lusty grotto
second part, i just go right and around the wall
lusty grotto
This is an advice like all the other cuz some charges you may run out of cd def ...
no, the problem is you focused too much on IP
lusty grotto
you didnt mention spell block at all
azure nimbus
It's a cd def for me
lusty grotto
yes, thats the point
lusty grotto
azure nimbus
but you maximise IP tracking charge will help you to endure the charge
lusty grotto
its bad to give emphasis to it
azure nimbus
saying
you'll cd def only when you leap back before he will charge at you
i'm just saying that if you're max at IP it's still better than be naked
lusty grotto
???
azure nimbus
and only have one cd def
lusty grotto
you'll cd def only when you leap back before he will charge at you
ive read this 5 times now and i dont understand it at all
harsh trellis
I think if your method is working for you for that boss. Get after it.
Sometimes the text explanation of things doesn't translate for some folks and that's ok
lusty grotto
but... this is a text chat?
azure nimbus
ive read this 5 times now and i dont understand it at all
I may not be clear or we are misunderstanding each other but like Nav said, if the mecha is working that's fine
lusty grotto
you'll use a defensive cd when you leap back before he charges at you again/
was that what you said?
or trying to say, rather
azure nimbus
In general, you start with Dulhu and focus Telu right ?
lusty grotto
thats correct
azure nimbus
While you're focusing Telu, Dulhu will charge during the fight, before he charges we have to leap from melee right ?
lusty grotto
im just trying to understand what youre saying on that line, not the entire thing
azure nimbus
yeah but i'm not clear it seems
harsh laurel
Just walk out
harsh trellis
I just move off to the side I don't leap there.
azure nimbus
don' take it in bad way buddy
lusty grotto
While you're focusing Telu, Dulhu will charge during the fight, before he charge...
no you leap out of his pool
harsh trellis
I charge out of the pool
azure nimbus
Before he's doing his charge you're using a cd def right ?
lusty grotto
you should be yes
azure nimbus
Ok so we're on the same page
the thing i was saying at start
is that while you're focus Telu, you bait the timer on the next charge, i will try to max my IP it's like 400k absorb for me atm
it'll help endure the charge a lot easier than only having one cd def
After obviously
you're usind spell reflect spell block
or your wall or whathever
blazing condor
wake me up in 20 hours
vocal flame
Good Morning All!
blazing condor
just make one of those random wheel thing with every item type
and recommend that
dusky canopy
Recommending to sim atleast 40 times every tuesday is the best jakey!
jagged pier
blazing condor
yellows should be 
and 
dusky canopy
why read the full pin when you can be more lazy about it and ask a repeat question in chat
duhhh
blazing condor
thats what the channel is for
harsh trellis
I am enjoying these s3 dungeons.
lusty tiger
all of the dungeons adjustments have been really good for the most part
There are a lot of tyrannical bosses that need some more adjustments though
blazing condor
yalnu 
teal swift
There are a lot of tyrannical bosses that need some more adjustments though
Give yazma the sporecloak treatment
blazing condor
yazma is one of those rare bosses that actually become more fun on higher keys
cus on low keys you dont need to move her around and shit the same way
teal swift
plush tendon
Yazma has been chill for me recently
granted, I play with the same people, but we got that boss cadence down
lusty tiger
If u don’t bait spiders and have an immune to soak closer to the end then it is just the worst
plush tendon
its only a frustrating boss in pug/weekly keys where people run to Narnia to drop soulrend; if its directly behind the boss, super chill
plush tendon
same ive ha d no issues with keys recently
lusty tiger
But on tyr I’m worried if you get a tick of wracking anywhere near when soul rend goes off you just die lmfao
lusty tiger
same ive ha d no issues with keys recently
Who needs keys anyway
jagged pier
literally not me
only think i can get is a myth track chest
can get that from raid vault
lusty tiger
Ik bro u mythic raid ofc ur Gucci
plush tendon
I hear the higher keys you do for weekly, the less likely you are to get a good drop though
lusty tiger
Hmm
plush tendon
theres magic to the single key weekly
lusty tiger
Yea but which dungeon is your 27?
plush tendon
Waycrest
lusty tiger
Pog
lusty tiger
theres magic to the single key weekly
Hmmmmmmmm
plush tendon
but this is the week I get lego and signet for my BDK
and then the ret and war in our M+ group get their legos to
we gonna be blasting
lusty grotto
vault gacha gaming
lusty grotto
lol
blazing condor
https://tenor.com/view/wheel-of-fortune-spin-the-price-is-right-gif-9848245
that shit is not gonna stop spinning
waxen frigate
that shit is not gonna stop spinning
blazing condor
lusty grotto
waxen frigate
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/463452854389047297/1037281694211919923/...
DH tier set be like
uneven mason
https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-26280065
Live image of someone waiting for the bus in ottawa
lusty grotto
teal swift
Live image of someone waiting for the bus in ottawa
I miss having a good bus system
blazing condor
-40 degrees here so trains/buses are all busted
jagged pier
climate change baby
blazing condor
I'm gonna guess wyoming
im EU
warm plinth
Oh
dusky canopy
Gorgeous state btw ghash
blazing condor
sweden
warm plinth
Never seen those weird corkscrew snowblower trucks til I sent there
dusky canopy
I'm trying to get snow like buffalo new york
warm plinth
Went
dusky canopy
who doesnt want 12 feet of snow stoping you from going to work that day
toxic pewter
na servers up
warm plinth
In Wyoming they plow to the middle of the road instead of the side. Then they go back with this giant snowblower truck that flings it like 50 feet off the road. Because it drifts like a mofo there
60mph wind gusts while it's 0 outside
lusty tiger
No snow here
blazing condor
snow is only important during christmas rest of the year it can go away
at least it makes everything brighter, which is nice when the sun sets at 15
waxen cradle
If we still dont have a max item level shield is it still better to open as Prot even if you have a 483 ?
dusky canopy
if you are not mythic raiding, yes
if you are able to kill gnarl root weekly
on mythic
toxic pewter
pretty meh vault.. do I even want a PIP trinket with leech or mythic crit/mastery ring with a socket?
dusky canopy
then you do not have to open vault as prot
you also could kill gnarl root mythic first
waxen frigate
pretty meh vault.. do I even want a PIP trinket with leech or mythic crit/master...
Bis fury ring probably
dusky canopy
then open vault as prot
toxic pewter
Bis fury ring probably
i play arms tho lol
just would lose so much haste with this ring and not sure I can recover the haste loss via other items O_O
uneven mason
I'm trying to get snow like buffalo new york
I literally was on the way to Chicago the day after that shit, they closed the highway and I had to find my way through Buffalo
toxic pewter
grats
uneven mason
It be like that sometimes always
toxic pewter
oof
next yacht
Great week for me
strong forum
Nice
uneven mason
Yay...boots...at least I can convert them in the catalyst to Haste boots
going to just suck it up and pug Gnarl mythic this week I guess, vault has betrayed my need for a 489 2h for the last time!
jagged pier
someone resetting the price
dusky canopy
dirty goblins
dusky canopy
they know people are grabbing vaults so they buy out the stock of gems
lmao
cant be mad at them for being smort i guess
jagged pier
yer they reset stuff every day before reset
if u want to buy anything u buy it on monday
blazing condor
small price to pay for a zen neltharite
i mean honestly they should just put the gems at like 4k each or something and still make mad money cus at least ppl will buy them at that price
its expensive but still cheap enough that someone with money goes "eh fuck it"
half hollow
not sure if this is a dumb question, but is there a loot spec that would give me a chance at gholak AND augury of primal flame? i alwasy miss the augury cuz im set to prot
jagged pier
fury
half hollow
thats what i thought, thanks bro
half hollow
i have the normal gholak so i wouldnt mind the heroic version
jagged pier
is there fewer raid options for Arms ?
yes
blazing condor
just making sure
half hollow
appreciate the help folks
uncut pewter
nightmare egg shell worth taking?
jagged pier
no
blazing condor
no
uncut pewter
oh wow that bad
jagged pier
Yes.
uncut pewter
i guess thats why its not even on the list of trinkets on wowhead lol
grizzled nova
3 deadge vaults in a row
blazing condor
its joever
grizzled nova
ah well at least I'll never want for sockets
uneven mason
is there fewer raid options for Arms ?
Yeah
past torrent
I wish you could use the currency you get from bad vaults to buy good items
uneven mason
I wish you could use the currency you get from bad vaults to buy good items
They did this in bfa, it sucked
past torrent
From what I remember they made it too expensive
past torrent
Make it like the dinars, a week of bad stuff = one coin. Items cost 3 coins and then I’d feel less shitty with bad vaults
uneven mason
Sockets, spark and 6 choices a week
Way better than anything in the past, but yeah I don't see them putting in a vendor
Next season sure
But that'll be the "bonus round"
blazing condor
From what I remember they made it too expensive
unless you wanted to RNG it
waxen frigate
Make it like the dinars, a week of bad stuff = one coin. Items cost 3 coins and ...
Imo 4 weeks
One dinar a month at most
lusty tiger
Any d2r experts around?
waxen frigate
Any d2r experts around?
No
blazing condor
nop
lusty tiger
Friick
warm plinth
I learned a new word that automod won't let you say in here
lusty tiger
Sorry I meant to say “aw geez rick”
lusty grotto
I learned a new word that automod won't let you say in here
sir
that is the first word i got automodded with
smh my head
warm plinth
What word
uneven mason
Frick?
lusty grotto
motherf
warm plinth
Nah I found another one
You know those comments that dudes make to other dudes sometimes
uneven mason
Sofa king we tar did
blazing condor
You know those comments that dudes make to other dudes sometimes
pookie bear?
warm plinth
I more meant the type of comment
lusty grotto
im at a loss here
warm plinth
It rhymes with fomo-exotic
blazing condor
i mean saying homo shouldnt be auto modded because its literally just latin
lusty grotto
homo
blazing condor
erotic?
lusty grotto
i was just trying it out
warm plinth
Yeah, but with homo in front of it
lusty grotto
hmm...
blazing condor
also weird because what's actually wrong with using that word
lusty grotto
thats certainly odd
blazing condor
thats like "sexual" being automodded
warm plinth
Yeah
uneven mason
Erotic
warm plinth
I thought it was odd
dusky canopy
cant say c u c k
uneven mason
Soloeroric
blazing condor
cuckoo
lusty grotto
a loophole has been identified
waxen frigate
Homo sapiens sapiens
warm plinth
I'm feeling more and more attacked as we find other options
lusty tiger
Fomo exotic
warm plinth
That aren't blocked
dusky canopy
straight
lusty tiger
Nish lookin kinda fomo exotic tbh
warm plinth
I just wanted to talk about how I play with the homies
dusky canopy
lusty grotto
ok zoinks is safe
lusty tiger
Zoinks
dusky canopy
lmao slink
warm plinth
Funny enough I don't think the r word is blocked
uneven mason
cant say c u c k
You know I was going to say automod is obviously a right wing nutter but that's their favorite word, so makes no sense
lusty tiger
lmao slink
Autocorrect smh
lusty grotto
the r word is blocked
blazing condor
Funny enough I don't think the r word is blocked
my friend got banned in Peak of serenity for it
no more monk tips
lusty grotto
thats the 2nd i got automodded with lol
warm plinth
Oh thats good then
lusty tiger
the r word is blocked
Rude for blocking nish…
lusty grotto
rudy?
warm plinth
I've passed up nish twice for groups because he applies as I click invite on the last person
lusty tiger
I've passed up nish twice for groups because he applies as I click invite on the...
Kick them and re invite my king
uneven mason
Legit
lusty grotto
sanguine hmm
warm plinth
Maybe he should apply to his friend's group faster
lusty grotto
ordinarily i would be cursing sanguine but
after the last 2 weeks...
plus its not fort + sanguine so not too bad
lusty tiger
Tyr sanguine int too bad after the nerf
warm plinth
I just take sang as a challenge
lusty tiger
It is the “how proactive can you position without trolling the mdps” challenge
warm plinth
I once pulled 3 packs into Raul in Freehold and got 0 sanguine healing on him
lusty grotto
uneven mason
The amount of casters this season though
warm plinth
So I'm kind of a big deal
lusty grotto
fort bursting 
lusty tiger
So I'm kind of a big deal
God gaming
warm plinth
Yeah bursting is ass this season. Healers forgot how to heal more than 2 stacks
lusty grotto
gotta go SP + MW
uneven mason
Yah
lusty tiger
Gg
uneven mason
Was going to say the mw I was running with basically was like "what affix"
uneven mason
Remember when bursting was % based
lusty grotto
but affixes shouldn't have specific classes that can resolve them
its weird
its a weird double down from mechanics in dungeons (i.e. different dispel types etc)
uneven mason
I mean nim, they gave a class a bleed removal this xpac
lusty grotto
like last week we were loading hybrids in just to hopefully have someone do a cleanse
lusty tiger
like last week we were loading hybrids in just to hopefully have someone do a cl...
Yep
lusty grotto
but that still doesnt feel as bad as having 2 classes only be able to clear bursting
lusty tiger
but that still doesnt feel as bad as having 2 classes only be able to clear burs...
Dwarves clear it fine
lusty grotto
aoe i mean
strong forum
Wdym you don't like requiring 2-3 dispel/hardcc classes per group because of affixes for 2 weeks in a row?
lusty tiger
Just amz
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
i do dwarf
lusty tiger
Just die(in game)
lusty grotto
vestal moat
Any thoughts on 489 rageheart vs 489 shield in vault. i have 483 on both. no access to mythic shield in foreseeable future due to extending raid
lusty grotto
yeah they def arent
strong forum
Oh shit now that I'm dps I actually give a fuck about bursting huh
lusty tiger
Oh shit now that I'm dps I actually give a fuck about bursting huh
Nah zug man
strong forum
NotLikeThis
lusty tiger
Just kill
lusty grotto
just dwarf
lusty tiger
Just dwarf
lusty grotto
strong forum
Any thoughts on 489 rageheart vs 489 shield in vault. i have 483 on both. no acc...
Technically you get more milage out of the shield
uneven mason
Any thoughts on 489 rageheart vs 489 shield in vault. i have 483 on both. no acc...
I mean, I want to say rage heart
lusty tiger
sometimes you can let the stack reset but usually you just send it
uneven mason
It's beefy
vestal moat
for some reason i feel rageheart is harder to get
bc in a pug everyone is rolling for them now
urban portal
well you'll eventually hit a random m+ shield
strong forum
It is
vestal moat
even dps
strong forum
Cuz there are alot more shields in the game
uneven mason
for some reason i feel rageheart is harder to get
You're 100% correct
strong forum
Than heroic ragehearts
urban portal
just get rageheart
vestal moat
ok i guess i pug fyr and try to get lucky and if no then shield it is ty fam
lusty grotto
he holds vault
vestal moat
I am not gonna loot the rageheart till i pug fyr and try to loot it natty.
uneven mason
Got it
lusty grotto
until after a fyraak kill
uneven mason
I wish I had hard choices in my vaults
uneven mason
I took shoes, it seemed like they wanted me to, since vault was 2 boots a cloak a belt and the 2 rings I'm already wearing
uneven mason
Still dreaming of a real 2h
lusty grotto
glacial plover
How valuable is leech to prot? We already have the 10% from talents ofc, but is it worth looking for more?
uneven mason
How valuable is leech to prot? We already have the 10% from talents ofc, but is ...
You never consider tertiary stats when comparing gear unless it's equal ilvl apples to apples
There's no situation where a tertiary is worth any ilvl over secondary and primary
blazing condor
tertiary stats are more of a "cool extra stats:)" thing
glacial plover
Yeah I was assuming that, was moreso about leech plus worst stats vs best stats on same ilvl
uneven mason
We like all stats
That's personal preference I guess, but I myself will use a haste piece over a vers piece with leech
But that's because I hate vers
glacial plover
Fair enough
uneven mason
3% vers
Most of it is on tier legs
Cant get away from it all, since gloves have more
waxen frigate
tertiary stats are more of a "cool extra stats:)" thing
Except speed
The real stat prio the elite don’t want you to know about is:
Speed>strength>haste>Crit
uneven mason
formal girder
Can anyone tell me how much % I should be hitting as prot warrior, my haste is 39% mastery 30% crit 24% versitility 14%
waxen frigate
@lusty grotto
formal girder
Ok then what ratings am I aiming for all
waxen frigate
<@131897531251556352>
.
formal girder
Yes but what about the others 😂
formal girder
Oh okay sweet
Just didn’t want to have too much stat for it to be useless where it could of been somwhere else was all
waxen frigate
For what it’s worth, hard caps are exceedingly rare in modern wow
Stats don’t follow caps or weights anymore
Sims do the work for you in a more precise way
formal girder
Never simmed 😂 probs should now I’m running higher keys
uneven mason
Never simmed 😂 probs should now I’m running higher keys
You can legitimately just wear highest ilvl and be fine
formal girder
😂 good to know love how complex and difficult this game is aye 😂
475ilvl atm being there I thought I should look into stats abit more and remembered I joined this
formal girder
Oh and here I thought I had made some sort of progress
uneven mason
You'll optimize stats when you're hitting Nimchip
I'm 480 and not at Nimchip levels of haste yet
I'd also probably benefit from more vers
But fuck that stat!!
plush tendon
nothing wrong with vers if it sims high
increases trinket/proc damages
so not a terrible stat
plain flame
for my rat , im thinking the fyrak heart is what I should grab
i only have 2piece atm but i have enough tokens to convert
the ember looks good too tbh
plush tendon
realistically anything chosen is a minor upgrade since all those pieces are farmable in M+
with cata
Rageheart is the hardest to get
plush tendon
Id slam rageheart
plain flame
I can farm the rest if i reallly wanted it
plain flame
Id slam rageheart
thanks all! 🙂
blazing condor
im just gonna start lootspeccing prot on fyrrak
seen 3x rage hearts
but no augury
uneven mason
just lost raid tank spec trinket for the 4th time to a dps
Feels bad
torn gulch
im just gonna start lootspeccing prot on fyrrak
and then you're gonna lootspec prot and see augury every week
because rng is a bitch sometimes
uneven mason
and then you're gonna lootspec prot and see augury every week
Ngl I've seen this, anytime I spec one way, the other trinket drops....
Unless I'm on an alt
bdk druid and dh all have rage heart
lavish sphinx
What are the Discord's thoughts on Quel'Zaram? Better than crafted?
lusty grotto
ilvl > all
whatever is higher ilvl
for gholak you might have to sim though
weapons and shields are always ilvl > everything
except if they have cantrips
uneven mason
Unless gholak
lusty grotto
like servant splitter is good only in ST for example, so simmable
all other weapons follow the ilvl rule
lusty grotto
well some people are just unlucky
but honestly i cba to use it lol i have a hero AD weap
uneven mason
Imagine not having a heroic gholak your aotc kill
lusty grotto
uneven mason
Offspec roll
uneven mason
uneven mason
<:sadge:820202363359854633>
waxen orbit
for my rat , im thinking the fyrak heart is what I should grab
Yes
Rageheart
Also is Augury still > Branch in M+?
uneven mason
Saw Goliath got nerfed, was thorns that bad ? As prot always considered him a free boss
waxen frigate
In very high keys yes
Never would impact you as the tank ofc
And as prot yeah you have insane physical dr
uneven mason
Guess as a ksh Andy I just don't see the real spicy buts
lusty tiger
The thorns were mad troll on certain specs… esp if you had an Aug in the party
opaque quest
Been playing "not wow"
Best game rn
pallid quiver
Another week no lego
Just order them off amazon or ebay or something 🙂
uneven mason
Legit the best part of wow is there's enough to do that I find fun that I don't want to unsub, but no "grind" that I feel forces me into fomo mentality.
Like they found the sweet spot between engagement and "2nd Job burnout"
uneven mason
Although I could work on my alts, they all so scrub at champion gear
Need to finish the dwarf brigade
Still haven't leveled the monk or pal as dwarf
Also as a side note I'm still waiting for them to make dart warriors a spec
vocal flame
Has anyone heard that season of renewal on 1/18 is the next season?
vocal flame
ah cool ty
vocal flame
Prob just skipping next season and waiting for expac
uneven mason
K
lusty grotto
seems likely that it will, but we'll see
it'd be nice fated seasons were like recap seasons
all df raids, all df dungeons
uneven mason
unless i missed smth
Nah, just figured they'd bring em all back in, ties in with zero of the original 8 being in season 3
opaque quest
If they force me into mechagon again ill sleep next season too
lusty grotto
but mechagon is fun 😦
uneven mason
lusty grotto
so is gambit
blazing condor
gambit was pog
strong forum
Nah, just figured they'd bring em all back in, ties in with zero of the original...
hope not
blazing condor
market was not
opaque quest
Ye with decent ppl i agree
strong forum
DF dungeons fucking SUCK
vocal flame
DF dungeons fucking SUCK
100%
opaque quest
VOTI was good tho
blazing condor
thats a raid sweaty 💅
opaque quest
You dont say
opaque quest
You said S1 not S1 dungeons
lusty grotto
f all you haters, offensive was a great dungeon
blazing condor
eeeh
vocal flame
lol
opaque quest
Ye unless it was tyrannical
blazing condor
warm plinth
Get fucked
opaque quest
strong forum
its over
vocal flame
yeah im skipping it
strong forum
fucking
uneven mason
Spell reflect shenanigans
vocal flame
ill just play the alpha if I get in
strong forum
Neltharus.... Hoi....
opaque quest
I like 10 month wow break ngl
blazing condor
AA was the only one that was semi fun
strong forum
AA was just pad shit
blazing condor
yes 
lusty grotto
nok > BH > AA > nelth > AV > HOI = RLP >>>> ULDAMAN
opaque quest
Enjoy uldaman bois
uneven mason
Uld was some shit
blazing condor
🤢 HOI, RLP, AV, Uldaman
warm plinth
I liked a few but HoI, AV, and Uldaman can burn in hell
toxic pewter
u got aa twice did u mean av
warm plinth
HoI is the 2nd most boring m+ they've ever made
opaque quest
Guess im gonna buy curve for this raid then logg off until TWW
toxic pewter
ngl id rather they even bring back de other side x10 than do df dungeons
plush tendon
lusty grotto
HoI is just fucking eternal
opaque quest
I despise RLP because ppl just pull with their asses in the first room
warm plinth
I just like that you can't do the frog skip in AV anymore. Ring skip gang gang
vocal flame
I like 10 month wow break ngl
says "summer autumn" for the next expac so maybe not that long
plush tendon
the real answer for pug keys.... they all suck
opaque quest
says "summer autumn" for the next expac so maybe not that long
I already have 2 months. Autumn is around august. 8+2 :>
plush tendon
cause pugs are poop
lusty grotto
fr
uneven mason
S4 will probably be 6weeks
vocal flame
I already have 2 months. Autumn is around august. 8+2 :>
ahh ok haha
warm plinth
Yeah s4 gonna be short this time. It's not even coming in a full patch.
warm plinth
What are we ready for
uneven mason
S4 in SL was so they didn't bookcase an expansion with nearly year long content draughts
lusty grotto
for last dps to win gholak and legendary
vocal flame
you have to finish last to win the roll
clever heart
How good is Rageheart for M+ anyways. like is it super bis or just an option?
warm plinth
Oh
vocal flame
hahaha
warm plinth
Rageheart is one of our bis trinkets
uneven mason
How good is Rageheart for M+ anyways. like is it super bis or just an option?
It's good in all content
clever heart
Rageheart is one of our bis trinkets
are there any trinkets you'd use over it ? like augury / stonescale
warm plinth
No
lusty grotto
oh christ
warm plinth
Cheat death users are cowards, don't @ me
lusty grotto
Cheat death users are cowards, don't @ me
clever heart
😄 i like the way u think
uneven mason
It's a defensive trinket that does solid damage
vocal flame
What is the procedure for rageheart? Use it on cooldown or only when expecting big damage?
warm plinth
2nd trinket would be either signet or augury
plush tendon
What is the procedure for rageheart? Use it on cooldown or only when expecting b...
slam on CD
uneven mason
Almost like Blizzard reads this discord and finally got the hint
warm plinth
Depending on your confidence level to keep signet up
vocal flame
slam on CD
copy ty
clever heart
2nd trinket would be either signet or augury
wat about branch ?
plush tendon
unless you have a spot you know you want it for
warm plinth
Branch? The one from EB?
uneven mason
Solid ae burst
plush tendon
but outpaced by Aug and Signet
clever heart
ya gnarlroot raid branch
warm plinth
Doesn't really line up with anything I'd think
uneven mason
It's on use
warm plinth
Oh
plush tendon
though, its a good trinket to replace signet on bad signet dungeons
warm plinth
Why are there three fucking branches in the same season
cosmic wyvern
is it worth taking a vers/mastery myth belt over a haste/vers myth belt if the mastery one has avoidance
warm plinth
No
plush tendon
is it worth taking a vers/mastery myth belt over a haste/vers myth belt if the m...
the cata belt is haste/crit
I think
restive scroll
the cata belt is haste/crit
Yes, main crit
cosmic wyvern
okay... not sure how that's relevant
uneven mason
the cata belt is haste/crit
The real answer
warm plinth
Avoidance is all but useless on tanks. It only comes into the decision making process if you're comparing two identical pieces.
median tulip
the cata belt is haste/crit
uneven mason
okay... not sure how that's relevant
Because you can turn the belts into the bestest boi stats
plush tendon
yea, but Avoidance>No Avoidance
plush tendon
lel
cosmic wyvern
as in throne of the tides
warm plinth
Cataclysm belt pog
plush tendon
XD
uneven mason
uneven mason
aren't vers and crit roughly equal tho
Vers is a dirty expensive bitch and doesn't deserve our love (but you're not wrong)
warm plinth
I had to tell someone that we used to use mail armor prior to level 40 yesterday and I think their head exploded.
cosmic wyvern
wait shit I took the one without avoidance not realizing you were talking about catalyst
nooo
warm plinth
Riiiip
cosmic wyvern
I missed out on avoidance >_<
warm plinth
Oh well
cosmic wyvern
I will now delete my character
warm plinth
Like I said, all but useless
strong forum
I will now delete my character
good call, reset RNG
warm plinth
Kek
cosmic wyvern
I hit 3k last week anyway, nowhere else to go but down at this point
warm plinth
Gotta get that refreshed guid amirite
uneven mason
I will now delete my character
Legion Lego fishing
warm plinth
Bro imagine if you lost m+ rating for depleting keys like you do for losing in pvp 
toxic pewter
wat u guys using spark on at this point
cosmic wyvern
wat u guys using spark on at this point
honestly I ran out of things to use spark on
warm plinth
I've only used 3 sparks so far, all on my hunter. I'm slackin
median tulip
I had to tell someone that we used to use mail armor prior to level 40 yesterday...
There was a period where Fury Warriors used Mail at endgame, because AGI gave 1 attack power and 1 crit, compared to STR giving 2 AP
cosmic wyvern
might craft a pvp piece tbh
uneven mason
wat u guys using spark on at this point
Makes a good pumice stone for my calluses
toxic pewter
i may as well use it to replace 483 items i have left that arent tier i guess
warm plinth
There was a period where Fury Warriors used Mail at endgame, because AGI gave 1 ...
Love me some old school wow shenanigans
Didn't have the main stat gain from wearing all the same armor type
uneven mason
There was a period where Fury Warriors used Mail at endgame, because AGI gave 1 ...
Agi never gave ap, but agi gear had ap on it at half budget
median tulip
TBH I quite liked Fury Warrior wearing Mail; it made some kind of sense that the berserkers had no defense
lusty grotto
the mail point was really short
warm plinth
Agi definitely gave AP sir.
lusty grotto
cause AQ came out and fuck that mail/leather garbage
uneven mason
Agi definitely gave AP sir.
Never
cosmic wyvern
can't believe agility gave azerite power
warm plinth
War and rogue gave 1 ap per point. And hunter got 2 rap per point
Rogue/sham/druid got 2 melee ap per point
War and rogue got 1 ranged ap*
uneven mason
War never received melee ap from agi....
warm plinth
I corrected myself.
warm plinth
Yeah you did get crit from it. And dodge
lusty grotto
horde scum didnt have kings lmaooooooo
warm plinth
Rude
uneven mason
But yes, leather generally came with agi, crit, and ap on it and didn't use budget for Stam and armor
Imagine armor consuming ilvl budget
lusty grotto
there wasnt a lot of pieces that were notable for mail anyway, at least endgame.... leveling up herod shoulders i guess
uneven mason
Weaponmaster
lusty grotto
imagine not being human
uneven mason
The skill gloves
lusty grotto
(:
uneven mason
Imagine tanking using daggers
warm plinth
I'm assuming you're thinking that it didn't because prior to cata you had a lot of pieces with both agi/str and ap
uneven mason
Because of the fast heroic strike
warm plinth
But from cata to wod, there was no ap on gear at all
You got all the ap from str and agi
Almost done with work, then vaults 
warm plinth
Good job
warm plinth
Ez gholak
lusty grotto
oh no, they are wiping
warm plinth
Noooo
vocal flame
nooo
vocal flame
are you pugging?
lusty grotto
obviously
pallid quiver
i'd say put me in, coach, but i'm currently dealing with a spot of butt pain
so i instead wish you good tidings in your quest, nim
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
you gotta love how these 25-30m groups just hope they can find 10 heals
"hey let me make a 30 man group" "for what man" "idk loot"
strong forum
gotta love how easy it is to get into raid as healk
and then only spam damage until fyrakk
lusty grotto
50 mins in queue
strong forum
blazing condor
then 1 wipe
lusty grotto
LOL
blazing condor
and group gone
lusty grotto
yea fr
lusty grotto
curse your leggo 😦
lusty grotto
oh green hands
strong forum
but my arms parses arent much different
blazing condor
fuck ur leggo anyway
strong forum
i couldve had r1 on smolderon and tindral aswell
but i got r2 on shammy cuz i pressed a couple healing buttons
just doesnt show on profile page yet
difference between rank 100 and rank 2 btw
so many healers just not pressing any buttons at all
wind oak
blazing condor
some pwarr logs can be similar tbf
winged slate
I bet your shaman does hella damage with the legendary tbh
strong forum
and it looks damn good doing so
sick geyser
Yo fellas happy new year. I've already got a rageheart, got gift of ursine (470 hero) and mirror (483 myth) in vault - are either worth it or should I just keep farming for something else? (current other trinket is spores of alacrity). Cheers
lusty grotto
fuck all these people getting ragehearts
goddamn
and then they come in and ask if they should take it
strong forum
mirror is trash for tank
lusty grotto
jesus
strong forum
but id look into getting other trinkets over gift or spores
lusty grotto
i swear wow punishes me for my toxicity
strong forum
and probably just pick socket from vault
lusty grotto
oh shit even worse
strong forum
like gift is solid, but not "pick from vault" solid
vocal flame
fuck all these people getting ragehearts
I got a raid finder one
lusty grotto
😢
sick geyser
and then they come in and ask if they should take it
Nah didn't get it in vault, got it from a kill with Gholak as well 😘
strong forum
dw ill get augury from vault tomorrow
lusty grotto
thats why im the worsest of worsers players
strong forum
on both shammy and warri
lusty grotto
sick geyser
Yeah sweet, was thinking socket also. Cheers yo
cosmic wyvern
fuck all these people getting ragehearts
I got it from my second or third heroic fyrakk kill. Also got hero Gholak when it first dropped. Had to duel my cotank for it.
love the rageheart/ursine vengeance combo
clever sleet
I HAVE hero atal shield and chap ring
sorry hero nymue shield
cant decied between the 2
do i want to go for early myth shield?
urban portal
rings are whatever
clever sleet
cant even use it till i get more aspects anyways
lusty grotto
wdym
clever sleet
my shield is max hero
lusty grotto
so?
clever sleet
which is the the same as the new shield
clever sleet
better stats on the old shield till i get it past the identicle ilvl