protection

[blazing condor]

yeah its weird

still of course hard to find healers

[ionic fern]

At least you're not in a guild group where all the guildies who want to join you are hunters.

[blazing condor]

[ionic fern]

Je, wild.

[blazing condor]

man i need to get good trinkets soon

and hc gholak

[ionic fern]

Same

No real other options.:(

[blazing condor]

i got champion sandglass + hc branch

and cheat trinket in bag

[ionic fern]

Don't think i have any raid trinkets

Maybe todays vault will provide me one.

[blazing condor]

branch is at least decent damage

does like 6-7%

[sick sentinel]

ho ho hosetown to you all

im santa yogi come fo give you all bullshit gifts in your eu vaults

[blazing condor]

thanks yoge

[sick sentinel]

i already stole myth timeways trinket from vault so i won for chrisfmas

[opaque quest]

Santa Yogi provide me with a new Xbox SX controller

Mine broke today

[sick sentinel]

let me guess, stick drift?

if yss, always were

ever since 360 ms controllers the sticks will eventually drift and die

[opaque quest]

No drift

Never had drift

Left stick sometimes doesnt register

[sick sentinel]

and the AXYB buttons start to stick and not register properly

other than that, i think 360/series s controller is the best controller on the market

even despite its flaw, its the defualt controller for many

[opaque quest]

I loved my 360 controller. Then i bought 2 X1s and used them till today

[sick sentinel]

its actually durable and adult man hand sized

[opaque quest]

One had L1 stop working now the second has the stick issue. I might try third party controllers this time like PDP

[sick sentinel]

you can throw an xbqox controller at the wall as hard as you can and it will probably still function

just buy new xbox controller walmart, should be on sale rn, i prefer offical ones myself

offbrands tend to have same issues but die much faster

[opaque quest]

Im in germany. No walmart here

https://www.amazon.de/AFTERGLOW-verkabelt-Controller-Offiziell-Lizenziert/dp/B0B3VN1C9X?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF&th=1 i kinda want this one

https://www.amazon.de/Xbox-Wireless-Controller-Shadow-Special/dp/B0CJ39GR6S/ref=sr_1_1?__mk_de_DE=ÅMÅŽÕÑ&crid=247HRVQ7M0IA7&keywords=xbox+series+x+controller+gold&qid=1703070441&s=videogames&sprefix=xbox+series+x+controller+gol%2Cvideogames%2C99&sr=1-1 otherwise i get this one cause shiny

[sick sentinel]

pdp one will be fine just dont come crying to me whnenit breaks in 2 months

i find official ones best overall but yoj do what makes you happy

[opaque quest]

Ive always used OEMs too

But having 2 break in 6 months is meh

[mild jolt]

Im currently Simming what crafted item could improve my gear.

But since sims only cover DPS, i was curius about the def value of some stuff.
While the Darkmoon Trinkets all sim Around 1,5k-2k dps higher (Currently using Fyrak Def and Branch)
How good is the Deff Darkmoon trinket Defense wise?

Is the Sustaining Alchemist Stone worth it with its STR Proc ?
Ofc the Rings are also a Option with haste/Versa and the socket (ill using Lariat Curently with 7 Sockets)
In pocket ill got a Ring of Abomination on 470 ( Haste/Versa).

Im a bit torn apart currently what to do, maybe you guys can help me. Ill post my current sim, to look at Gear

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mQuvmduRYFcoJmX9ZiJYoy

[blazing condor]

i feel like the darkmoon / alch trinkets are weird in sims

cus they always sim high

[mild jolt]

im more concernd about the Defensiv value, for dps its "easy" to make a decision. Thats why i dont know about the Stone or Darkmoon trinket.
Stone gives Versa and Stat proc, what seems nice

the stone has a PPM of 1

[uneven mason]

None of the crafted are worthwhile in trinkets

[mild jolt]

sad

[opaque quest]

Timerunning Pandamonium

CAN I GET MAGE SET?

CAN I FINISH MY COLLECTION?

[toxic pewter]

they bringing it back

[opaque quest]

Wouldnt be mad. I dont know why ppl think having something others dont makes them cooler

Im just cooler because im a cat in a cookie monster pajama

[sick sentinel]

here, yogi doom postin

come across it lookin at old magazines for another game

[uneven mason]

Yogi always doomin

[waxen frigate]

Big doomer

[uneven mason]

I can't find my doom95 CD

Worried my wife tossed it

[waxen frigate]

Toss her amirite

[sick sentinel]

i think you mean disk 1 of 6

[smoky moss]

Howdy fellas!

I was wondering if there are any trackers available for the writhing heart of darkness trinket?
I'm curious about how much of a defensive boost it is while doing both dungeons and raids

[sick sentinel]

to install v0.666

and the new sigili 2 episode is now 6th official doom episode

john romero and the gang were believed to be devil worshippers

[toxic pewter]

you guys ever use wrecking throw?

Could it be worth taking for galakrond's absorb shield in fall

I take it for fyrakk's absorb

[thorny stone]

Check on wago, but doubt it. Trinket is pretty bad compared to other options.

[smoky moss]

Yea I didn't find anything spesifically for that, but I guess I'm just farming for a replacmement! Thank you

[blazing condor]

should be a pretty easy WA to make yourself

if its just tracking a buff uptime

[uneven mason]

If you want to check uptime you can't beat a good log

[lusty tiger]

imma toss u

[waxen frigate]

You can’t toss me. I’m him.

[uneven mason]

Phrasing

[lusty tiger]

nice top 10 of all 15 brewmasters

[waxen frigate]

More than pwarrs 🤬

[lusty tiger]

LOL

jk youre popping off king, as ususal

what about m+?

[waxen frigate]

Barely touching it LMAO

[lusty tiger]

lets do some keys

[waxen frigate]

I have to work

[lusty tiger]

i need a tank so bad

[waxen frigate]

[lusty tiger]

after work

[waxen frigate]

And I don’t know any of the dungeons

[lusty tiger]

ill coach u

[sick sentinel]

found some game i really like

it has a strategy guide, i have trouble opening it

game says "check november catalogue to see more maps!" (this strategy guide was mostly maps)

[waxen frigate]

Doom?

[lusty tiger]

Mood

[sick sentinel]

go through a ton of scans pictures and video of said magazine when it supposed to be there

annnnnnnnndddd

its not.

[lusty tiger]

what game?

[sick sentinel]

REALLYMAD.JPG

[lusty tiger]

!

[sick sentinel]

i might have to continues on this dudes work and re-create the game strategy guide

[lusty tiger]

it's just a schitzo post until you tell us what the game is called

[sick sentinel]

no worries im just slightly upset that they didnt deliver on the promise

is that ps1 game, w no matter what i do on some maps, cant get all the secrets, bugs me

cuz, if there was maps of world 2 and 3, that would be extremely helpful for me

[vocal flame]

All the crazy DPS numbers posted here do you all have Gholok and Signet is that how you are doing it?

Maybe I don't push buttons enough but I am around 80-100k at 469 i level seems horrible but I also have bad trinkets and a basic 1h weapon from Atal not Golock

[thorny stone]

Upload a log from a run and let's see, because 100k is closer to st damage on this season.

[blazing condor]

need log

[vocal flame]

Ok how would I upload a log? Is that an addon I have to install to track it?

[toxic pewter]

check your name on warcraftlogs.com its possible someone else logged a run of u perhaps

[blazing condor]

^ that

otherwise you need to download the program

[vocal flame]

ok the program is called warcraftlogs?

[vocal flame]

ok copy that thank you

[blazing condor]

what does he even mean by this lol - we're not gonna use pots etc?

[ruby musk]

That's a funny way of phrasing 'mandatory'

[waxen frigate]

Link his logs I wanna see

[blazing condor]

this is his mythic logs lol

heroic is like med 70

[opaque quest]

MHW looking just like wow. 1 person doing 6% of the teams dmg

There are boosted idiots everywhere ig

[toxic pewter]

surely that individual is a healer or some sort of support or something

.. right

[blazing condor]

its an alt at least

6/9 main

[opaque quest]

There are no healers in MH

[toxic pewter]

oof

[opaque quest]

Every clas/wep is a dps

[atomic copper]

i mean there was the huge craze of using wide range and other such skills with free meal for a while

but even then thats less damage then a perfect rush combo if the area is weak

[dusky canopy]

I didn’t know mhw had a dps meter haha

[opaque quest]

It doesnt but there are mods/addons

[opaque quest]

This was on fatalis. Dude was using frostcraft. He should be doing 60% of the teams dmg kek

[atomic copper]

oh lord yea that is bad

even the blast procs from the brachy weapons do more dps at that point

[toxic pewter]

literally gotten the mount off garrosh like 3 times no tusks tho

[blazing condor]

sadge

[glacial grove]

How many haste points? Still like 7,1k?

[zinc root]

any tips this week for the affixes for us tanks? never played them before

[blazing condor]

not really a tank week

just requires group coordination

[opaque quest]

Same. I even got both CEs for him

As warrior

Never seen them drop

[blazing condor]

theyre a cool drop but also very limiting in how youd transmog them

everyone who has them is a maghar orc who looks like garrosh

[toxic pewter]

yeah they can still work for other races though

[lusty grotto]

never liked them

[blazing condor]

other races? 🤨

[lusty grotto]

no, the tusks

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/hellscream-garrosh-gif-22929958

[opaque quest]

APB memeing again

[plush tendon]

Mag Har Orc are cool.... but they are just worst orcs 😦

and this could be 100% better.... its like 10 times worst Dwarf passive racial and doesnt work on bleeds

[sick sentinel]

whats the best key this week to farm for voilet stet pedder

cuz, ghosts affix

[lusty grotto]

tott and brh

and the usual

ill let you know in a bit, im doing vault keys for chipadin right now so i dont leave it for monday

[sick sentinel]

make savage blood to 20% + then we talk

[lusty grotto]

but TotT is always free in tyr weeks

[plush tendon]

Throne is a chill key

I love Throne

actually, most of the dungeons this season Im pretty chill with

The mega-dungeons being honestly the worst of the bunch imo

[lusty grotto]

in tyr weeks? kind of

fall is fine, except tyr takes too long and timeways is always a fuckup

[plush tendon]

I just think they are kind of meh to do

[lusty grotto]

rise can be rough i guess

[zinc root]

What’s violet stet pedder?

[plush tendon]

saving grace of fall for me is you can pull trash on first boss

thats a fun pull

[toxic pewter]

the settings of both and certain pathing is what annoys me most of doti

just both blah to me

[plush tendon]

Rise's pathing is meh AF

[toxic pewter]

yep

[plush tendon]

I think the bosses are fine

[zinc root]

What’s this ?

[sick sentinel]

type it into youtube first result

[left locust]

Just checking for sanity: What can I be doing to help ensure Ozumat goes smoothly on +22 this week?

[sick sentinel]

just, hear me out and watch it through

[plush tendon]

make sure puddles are grouped niceley and clear? its honestly up to dps to do that though

[sick sentinel]

u can like second screen audio only it for most part

[plush tendon]

like, the tank mechs on Ozumat are non-existant

you group adds, drop puddles close together, and clear

[left locust]

right

[plush tendon]

fuck up a clear, and the boss becomes impossible

[left locust]

i kick like, one mob and pull him towards the marker

that's about it

[plush tendon]

yea

theres not much to the fight

its a ethical fight

[left locust]

kk, thanks

[plush tendon]

just be ethical

[blazing condor]

ethical gang

also spell reflect

[zinc root]

Only thing pops up is world of tanks lol

[sick sentinel]

this is why i want the helmet boe

almost fits

[plush tendon]

thats DK mog

[sick sentinel]

boe helmet shares appearances

i also bought the other dk helmet for

[plush tendon]

oh, I like that

[sick sentinel]

beacuse, that is the best transmog ever

[plush tendon]

but again, you just robbing DK helms

[sick sentinel]

it still looks cool

[blazing condor]

they should fix so you can release spirit after you leave a group in raid

[sick sentinel]

like, im also after the gold version of the horns helmet dk

cuz i want it for paladin take all the boe warrior gear, some of boe dk gear, mog up paladin in that gold set

[dusky canopy]

Normal DK mog BIS this tier

[vocal flame]

They just need to get rid of racials

[opaque quest]

Flashbanged by yogi set

https://tenor.com/view/reaction-my-eyes-cant-unsee-burn-gif-7225082

[blazing condor]

try to find an rdps for fyrakk challenge (impossible)

[sick sentinel]

photoshoped

edited

declined all the rdps before hand

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[opaque quest]

Yogi is a conspiracy theorist too

[lusty grotto]

especially in fyraak lmao

[blazing condor]

everybody want leggo idk

its a fuckin pain

[lusty grotto]

no i mean

yogi missed the entire point

fyraak fight kinda always needs ranged

but he says he declines them lmao

[blazing condor]

think it was in response to my photo, that i was faking the screencap

[opaque quest]

Who needs ranges for Fyrakk. Just have 10 DKs

[blazing condor]

as long as they dont take my wep or trink

[lusty grotto]

you certainly dont, you can all melee it but melee are such pussies with seeds

that i always volunteer for them asap

[warm plinth]

Nimchip reading comprehension suffering smh

He's getting old

[lusty grotto]

ok what am i missing

also jokes on you, im already old

[strong forum]

I like that on normal fyrakk you can just skip p3

If you lust after 2nd intermission in p2

Cuz you have like 30 seconds of just pummeling boss between p2 and p3

[light dune]

at least i got a myth track trinket in my vault

[uneven mason]

[left locust]

for EB 20+ this week, when do we ask for lust? I dislike lashers so I'm usually thinking 2nd pull, but do people just usually do asap?

pulling those casters into the next mobs is annoying

[lusty grotto]

1st pull

council

and/or mage

timing fits for

1st pull, 1st boss, 3rd boss

but if youre having problems with council its doable there (if you wipe)

and/or wait it out

[blazing condor]

yeah did this last week

think we did 1 seed but he died just affter

[left locust]

1st pull first boss? I figured it was first pull 2nd boss but gotcha

[plush tendon]

depends on timing tbh

[lusty grotto]

i mean it depends on your route

and yes timing

[plush tendon]

we pull a lot in the first zone, but we can go nuts on how many flowers we can pull at once

[lusty grotto]

like i think its kind of a waste on 1st boss but shrug

[plush tendon]

since Im dk and we have a ret paladin

the play for me is to pull as much of the stuff in area to first boss, then on the way to the second boss stay to the left and skip all the aboms

[lusty grotto]

eh

aboms arent that bad

if you solo pull them

on fort i mean

[plush tendon]

gross

[lusty grotto]

serkies are the real problem

[uneven mason]

Single pulls?

[lusty grotto]

so my route avoids as much of them as possible

as in, not double aboms

[uneven mason]

What do you think this is

Brm chat?

[lusty grotto]

you can pull a lot of shit with 1 abom

but 2 aboms is fucking rough

[plush tendon]

what are serkies?

[vocal flame]

@sick sentinel Any new clips?

[lusty grotto]

not for my sake but the group

berserkers

[uneven mason]

Zerkies

[plush tendon]

ah

yea, the Z makes the difference

XD

Serkies vs Zerkies

[lusty grotto]

idk

theyre called berserkers in game

so serkies

[uneven mason]

Berzerker

[lusty grotto]

nope

[plush tendon]

doesnt matter

Z is better

[sick sentinel]

i found the secret characters on that game

im trying to think if i made any mistakes in that key, it was only a 13 and 2 chest so

[lusty grotto]

thats for japanese cartoon watchers

and i aint no bitch

[uneven mason]

Bruh

[lusty grotto]

but i play xiv

[uneven mason]

Qualifies as weeb

[lusty grotto]

to be faiiiiiiiiiiiiiiir

[blazing condor]

zerk is for runescape players

[lusty grotto]

https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/3876329/ chippie is a lalafell

so im automatically banned from any intense weeb shit

[uneven mason]

So you're a pedo weeb

[lusty grotto]

which is a-ok with me

[uneven mason]

Not sure I should be talking to you

[blazing condor]

love wow players

dude in the fyrakk group goes

[lusty grotto]

how dare you

im 900 years old

[blazing condor]

"lets kill this fast guys my wife just had a baby i gotta go to the hospital"

[plush tendon]

just accept your inner weeb... its there, just need to let it out UwU

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/no-bugs-bunny-nope-gif-4095597578532971838

[uneven mason]

Bruh I literally had a mage who answered the bat phone and logged in to kill Xegony from the hospital back in 2002

[plush tendon]

your denial is just hurting yourself and your waifu

[uneven mason]

While his gf was giving birth

[lusty grotto]

lol xegony

[uneven mason]

Gotta get that nuke wand

[lusty grotto]

speaking of which

[uneven mason]

35% magic damage focus

[lusty grotto]

p12s boss reminds me of xegony

theyre both big fairies

[opaque quest]

Depends

Only if you play male katto or au ra

Or anything female that isnt elezen

[lusty grotto]

i just picked lalafel female cause their yells are funny

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/satan-satan-sense-is-tingling-gif-8170054

[lusty grotto]

also my glam is super great

very original

nobody else has it

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-stare-gif-4750406302107867271

[lusty grotto]

i also have my lala police glam

well then

i was gonna say to "arrest those h---y weebs" but i discord didnt have it

[hazy bronze]

Horsey?

[lusty grotto]

horn

y

get fucked discord

😄

[blazing condor]

henry

[lusty grotto]

im watching you

[dusky canopy]

[shut summit]

[opaque quest]

Police Lalafel is to much

It triggers all the pedos

[lusty grotto]

its lala police okay

[opaque quest]

Limsa is weird

And police lalas dont help

[lusty grotto]

i go "FREEZE LALA POLICE" on that one hunt tree in garlemald

sir, we're here to execute all of those

[cosmic wyvern]

why does everyone hate bolster :( I like bolster

[lusty grotto]

limsa will be free of pedos forever

eventually

also i dont hang in limsa, im an uldah enjoyer

[opaque quest]

Limsa is just to condensed

[lusty grotto]

gridania is also meh

[opaque quest]

Gridania always has those weird bard bands

[lusty grotto]

ya

there's always like 5 bards

and they fight over their spots

its the stupidest funniest thing

[blazing condor]

limits pull size

[lusty grotto]

like if they were crack dealers

[opaque quest]

I need to sell on this specific corner or nobody buys

[lusty grotto]

lol

its ridiculous

ive heard from my static people fight over "benches" or shit in limsa too

apparently some people think a specific bench belongs to them

ive been wanting to go there and just sit on a random one just to see what happens lol

[opaque quest]

lmao yes

[lusty grotto]

its so ridiculous that its kinda hilarious

[cosmic wyvern]

how?

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/jackie-chan-meme-what-confused-huh-gif-5480485

[median tulip]

I hate it because it means relying on your average mouth breathing DPS players interrupting properly to deal with high bolster stacks, and they never do.

Lost count of how many 5 stack Soul Bolts went off last week while the DH stood there with his kick unused.

[lusty grotto]

good luck surviving flower bolster stacked aboms in EB

kickable casters arent a problem

the problem is everything else

[median tulip]

I refused to do EB last week. Fuck that noise.

I also refused to take the Bear with the first two packs in DHT.

[lusty grotto]

kinda weird how someone would be asking how it limits pull size lol

[blazing condor]

i fucking hate pugging fyrakk with a passion

took 1 hour to form a group

40 mins of pulls

no kill

everyone leaves

[lusty grotto]

ive found fyraak pugging is better if you do a small group

[torn gulch]

2/4/14 max

for fyrakk

[median tulip]

Kickable casters aren't a problem if the DPS are competent, but there are maybe 3 competent DPS players on the entire planet.

[lusty grotto]

right but thats pugging issues

the fact is

bolstering is opposite of a push week

[blazing condor]

its a pull week

[lusty grotto]

any affix that restricts pulls is dogshit

[onyx hearth]

for those who saw the new talents

Isn't Warrior Mountain Thane theme too similar to just an enhancement shaman?

[lusty grotto]

is thor an enhancement shaman?

[waxen frigate]

No

Enhancement isn’t just lightning

It’s elemental

[patent osprey]

Crash lightning + Thunder blast will kinda look simliar

[waxen frigate]

In a way

Without being… elemental shaman. Lmao

[vocal flame]

Especially as a tank when you sit at like 23 ints and the next closest dps has 6

[onyx hearth]

I mean, isn't Thrall based on Thor?

[lusty grotto]

no thrall is based on being a shaman

a master of the elements

[onyx hearth]

Even the name is similar

[lusty grotto]

not the god of "just" lightning

[median tulip]

Yep. And then you get party leaders who are like "Warlock, Mage, Boomkin, Priest - that's a good party comp, right?"

[toxic pewter]

Warrior Mountain kings had thunder clap before shaman had crash lightning. Shaman had lightning shield in wc3 And far seers had chain lightning

[lusty grotto]

theres literally a character based on thor

his name is Thorim

and hes part of Skyhold

so basically a warrior

[median tulip]

Wait, have we seen more details of the hero trees?

[toxic pewter]

Just the mountain thane one

And 3 others

[sick sentinel]

this how come ksm and stop

[toxic pewter]

Is that supposed to be him rapping or something

Doesn’t really rhyme or anything

[tawdry dirge]

Is it even worth it to craft something else then ebelisments and rings this season?

[sick sentinel]

the crafted isn't as powerful as max rank myth gear

[lusty grotto]

no

[cosmic wyvern]

bolster is a talent

I'm not talking about bolstering

[sick sentinel]

so if you are able to get myth gear in slots we dont normally craft in this season anyway,

[cosmic wyvern]

I fucking hate bolstering

bolster = last stand is less shit

I like bolster :)

[median tulip]

Oh that. It's ok, it just has much less synergy with anything else this season, so the points are best spent elsewhere

[lusty grotto]

bolster is shit without cdr

no cdr on last stand = bolster is garbage

[cosmic wyvern]

it's an extra defensive for things like oakheart/deios

[lusty grotto]

it does nothing

[toxic gyro]

If you want ls to be a better cd you take last stand. And pop with with ravager and demo shout

[faint swift]

hmmmmm what do u think bois ? if not i will take the coins

[pallid quiver]

yes, take the DPS loss

[cosmic wyvern]

tbh I wish the "generate a shitton of extra rage during last stand" talent was better

I liked being able to use last stand offensively

[toxic pewter]

I inspect every prot warrior I encounter in the wild and a shocking non zero amount of them have bolster with current tier 31.. truly crazy times we live in

[toxic gyro]

Why would you take bolster when we already have 100% uptime on shield block

[blazing condor]

gholak is bis

[toxic pewter]

I think people still using tier 30 build and just don’t get the situation

[blazing condor]

these names

[pallid quiver]

well

that is accurate for what Zeus does

[lusty grotto]

you reminded me

[blazing condor]

frost penis

[lusty grotto]

penis shoot

[blazing condor]

thats why they call it CoC

[lusty grotto]

also moofasa and diznots are my friend

so at least diznots was accurate, just sad it didnt show completely

[uneven mason]

Did BT Timewalking
I got 3 pices of loot

apperntly, the game can sense me IRL and is trying to tell me to put on pants

[pallid quiver]

double down

sell all pants

go everywhere pantsless

[uneven mason]

oh one is heroic ilvl

interesting

[pallid quiver]

establish dominance

[uneven mason]

ah was from the loot box

[lusty grotto]

Agreed

[uneven mason]

my DK getting decked

[strong forum]

no youll never replace heroic gholak

[lusty grotto]

lets discuss this a bit, the only 2 things that bolster does is a 1 min reduction on a 5 3 min cd and it gives you SB. Guess what? If you're doing a boss thats taking more than 4 mins from your last first LS use, you're already doing something completely wrong in a key. Your use count will be absolutely the same with or without Bolster in both bosses because realistically bosses shouldn't last 4 mins + whatever seconds since your last first LS use in their first buster. Furthermore the other part of that is that SB does absolutely jack shit against Deios breath and Oakheart's grip. So what are you really gaining from taking it?

TL;DR: you have 2 max uses on both Deios and Oakheart with or without Bolster, and the SB does nothing against them.

because the answer is absolutely nothing

might as well have an untalented node

[plush tendon]

LS is 3 mins though

[lusty grotto]

fundamentally bolster in itself needs a change, to either give something else than SB, and/or to add back LS into AM

well, the point still stands

2 uses max

[plush tendon]

I member when AM gave LS CDR

[lusty grotto]

yeah that was BFA

and bolster was hard slotted back then

Colossus tree might add something for LS, im thinking

and if that's the case then Bolster might come into play again (other than whatever sets come around in TWW)

[stiff star]

can 2h leggo drop in prot spec?

[jagged pier]

i mean it being on AM CDR is broken

and yes

[stiff star]

thanks!

[lusty grotto]

agreed

at least in the current iteration of prot

[cosmic wyvern]

anyone know why I can't create a group in weakauras

the "New aura" window doesn't have options for groups anymore

[sick sentinel]

you can catalyst it yes or no im not sure how you know these things

[devout star]

Should be able to it’s season 2 gear

[blazing condor]

it catalysts to your tier

but yeah you can probably cata it

[sick sentinel]

season 3 right

[lusty grotto]

yeah theres no reason why it shouldn't cata

thats season 3 yea

not 2

[devout star]

*season 3 10.2 my bad lol

[sick sentinel]

cuz, i can get 4 pice this way at least

[lusty grotto]

head is our weakest tier slot though

[modern gazelle]

Yeah I crafted my helm cause I already got myth bracers/waist with tertiary and helm stats are not great

[lusty grotto]

...

tertiaries lol

[modern gazelle]

This was like week 2 so it wasn’t worth crafting bracers when I had a champ helm

I’m redrafting bracers at some point when I can get a myth helmet

[lusty grotto]

well its fine i would just craft bracers anyway

[inland raft]

Legendary is independent of loot spec right?

[blazing condor]

ye

[modern gazelle]

The 20ilvl increase was more worth to me than bracers that would’ve been a non upgrade

[lusty grotto]

thats fine

[modern gazelle]

Plan is to craft bracers still though just haven’t got myth track helm

[lusty grotto]

well you should have 4 sparks anywya

[vocal flame]

4?

[lusty grotto]

so you can just recraft patch out and into bracers

[toxic pewter]

why do I keep seeing people saying tott is free am i missing something

[modern gazelle]

No point crafting bracers atm though cause I have myth track and 2 embellish already

[lusty grotto]

because its free in tyr week

[toxic pewter]

ozumat tho?

[modern gazelle]

It’s really not hard besides last hall on fort week

[lusty grotto]

what about ozumat

[toxic pewter]

boss owning my group right now

[lusty grotto]

we melt it with SR

[modern gazelle]

Which boss is that?

[blazing condor]

ozumat is as hard as your group makes it

[toxic pewter]

i dont understand the reflect situation i exit melee range and he literally casts a groupwide damage ability is that what i am reflecting

am i missing something with that

I guess thats just the normal aoe damage he does

[vocal flame]

Did I miss something with the sparks? I am getting my 3rd this week. Or is it because I don't raid

[toxic pewter]

should have 4 sparks now

[vocal flame]

the crafting ones right?

[modern gazelle]

Oh, ozumat is fine if people just stack and clear. People just don’t know how to place pools. Also they need to group for adds so we can get agro easier but some just run from you making it a pain

[lusty grotto]

spell queue

[modern gazelle]

Do you do the weekly?

[lusty grotto]

you have to SR after the group casts, he wont do it when you pull

[modern gazelle]

Is there Tech for Ozumat reflect I’m unaware of?

[toxic pewter]

Ok that makes sense thanks

i will do that next time

[modern gazelle]

I am trying to think what I reflect on that boss usually but drawing a blank

[blazing condor]

yes

if you as the tank arent in melee

he sends out a foul bolt

[vocal flame]

I didn't finish it yet but thatll give me my 3rd one. I crafted two pieces already

[blazing condor]

so you can purposefully run out of melee with reflect up

and reflect the bolt

same way youd do it in Nokhud Offensive in S1 for the tempest boss

[modern gazelle]

Did you do the campaign and give the spark to the npc at the camp who gives you another one back in return?

[modern gazelle]

Oh damn nice, so after group AOE walk out of melee range and reflect?

Then back into melee range I’m assuming so it doesn’t keep casting

[vocal flame]

Maybe I didnt do that part. I am maxed out on renown but I will check after work

That would be sweet cause I still have not been able to upgrade my 463 neck yet

[lusty grotto]

this is the kind of shit i have to deal with on chipadin vault keys

nobody fucking died

[modern gazelle]

Hate that shit. Especially when you have PLENTY of time to time keys and people still leave

[blazing condor]

three manned a dungeon like that

[lusty grotto]

i pulled the titan into the baby fucking 2 pack he pulled

and we smashed it

[modern gazelle]

I’ve +2 a decent key with 4 man before lol

[lusty grotto]

also that hpal

notice how he says

[blazing condor]

honestly though people who pull "for me" can fuck off

[lusty grotto]

TRY TO PULL EVERYTHING

and then he says

IF YOU PULL FOR TANK AGAIN I LEAVE

wtf?????

YPYT BRM and completely undecided hpal

im half tempted to tank on chipadin just because of vault keys

but i fucking hate it

[sick sentinel]

imma go read the fine print on the catalyst machine rq

im curious what it actually say

[lusty grotto]

classic yogi, never trusts us

we're always right but he never does

be sure to check with General chat

[woven torrent]

bro its the first time ive been dipping into tyra 25s

and people pull like half the dungeon

and ppl lower still complain about more than 2 casters

[lusty grotto]

yes?

[woven torrent]

😭

I was so surprised it was so easy

when its not forti

[torn gulch]

got gholak heroic bis for the rest of the patch

[lusty grotto]

i mean its tyrannical, he was worried about casters, it was a 3 pack with 2 casters lmao

all of the volleys were kicked

[woven torrent]

Yeah best way is to just agree with the timmys when u dont wanna waste ur time

[lusty grotto]

and even if they werent we were not gonna die

feelsbadman

[sick sentinel]

correct

[lusty grotto]

now i have to run a 17

[sick sentinel]

i did ask others

[lusty grotto]

lol

....

[woven torrent]

Ngl im a bit sad we cant equip 2hs

i saw a ton of paladins today with the legendary

and it was literally 2nd highest dmg on overall

[pallid quiver]

I may know jackall about Ret

but i assume that's because they're not pressing buttons

[woven torrent]

Nah they were pumping still

[pallid quiver]

@lusty grotto plz confirm

[woven torrent]

it was smth like

Divine storm or w/e is the spell called - 50 mil

leegndary - 30 mil

[woven torrent]

Like if someone is not pressing buttons in 24-25 then idk what to think about them

[lusty grotto]

pallies are hyper focused

if they are keys spec, they will do badly on bosses

tyr week is no bueno for us

[warm plinth]

Yoooo I won aotc kill from bdg split raffle. We getting that weapon bois and grils

[patent osprey]

Lets goooo

[modern gazelle]

I had to literally type mid fight in a 23 fall last week during final boss to teach players the mechanics

[lusty grotto]

anyway as long as you keep pulls big they shouldnt be outdpsed overall

but boss dps is rough

[blissful ether]

My guys. I've been cruising on BDK and after getting 480 ILVL i think its time to add in a alt. Thinking about prot war or pally. What's the main thing which makes you guys like prot this much? i dont really care what's better right now since i'm not doing 30's

[pallid quiver]

I was mostly asking about the damage breakdown with leggo damage being 2nd if any of this was in response to me

[modern gazelle]

Prot feels smooth to me, also spell reflect is satisfying af

[lusty grotto]

oh idk

i dont have leggo on either yet

[woven torrent]

Spells just feel satisfying as fuck for me on warrior compared to like, Brewmaster

[warm plinth]

The class fantasy and sounds/animations are what keep me entertained. I like both prot specs but woyer is more fun to me.

[pallid quiver]

I like to press Execute, SR sounds good, and I've just always played Prot Warrior since I started playing WoW in like 2006

[woven torrent]

they feel like they HIT

[blissful ether]

I like the idea of zooming in. shouting. doing some deeps and jumping out when needed 😆

[warm plinth]

Prot paladin sounds/animations are very meh in comparison, other than avengers shield

[blissful ether]

So that's what drawing me

[woven torrent]

and divine toll D:

[balmy canyon]

SR is great... until dps decide that's the one cast they're going to kick the entire pull

[pallid quiver]

also you're a simp if you're a pally, always begging the light for help

[warm plinth]

Well that's basically just AS x a billion kek

[hollow sun]

feels good to charge, reflect

[modern gazelle]

Bro tell me about it

[warm plinth]

GUYS WHY IS THIS A THING?!

[woven torrent]

[pallid quiver]

recaps are mega popular in the general base

[woven torrent]

For me itd show the 3 big macs i bought all year..

Literally the only tasty thing in germany from them

[blissful ether]

Okay i shall join you brothers i will roll a prot warrior. And leave my pally to rot this season

[hollow sun]

Also, the overall class fantasy. No light and magic bs, Just you and your shield

[pallid quiver]

And it serves as free advertising when people share recaps

[modern gazelle]

Like please I can live even without them kicking. Kick the casts on the SQUISHIES let me reflect

[warm plinth]

It's gonna show chickie nuggies for me 100%

[warm plinth]

Good choice friend

[hollow sun]

and it's always satisfying when people go like "oh wow, i thought prot warrior was trash..."

[warm plinth]

I get off on pwar log reviews if you ever need one

[blissful ether]

My healer is yelling at me

[warm plinth]

For choosing pwar? Lol

[blissful ether]

He's biased since he's a pally and he thinks prot warriors are bad

[jagged pier]

probably cause playing wrong

[modern gazelle]

Might ask you to review my Nymue I feel like I take too much damage

[warm plinth]

Smfh

[modern gazelle]

We got the myth kill last night but my parse was barely green

[warm plinth]

Ruh roh

[modern gazelle]

Was like 40 something

And overall I just feel like the damage I take can be rough that fight on mythic

[jagged pier]

he doesnt review

them

he just looks at them

[warm plinth]

What do you mean by that sir

The logs people post in here are generally just like...basic shit. I do more in-depth review when asked for.

[lusty grotto]

ghash is a log voyeur

[warm plinth]

Like I'm not gonna give you 18 billion things to change on the first log if you're making glaring fundamental issues that will fix most of your problem.

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/lurking-creepyguy-plant-gif-11665121

ghash

[cinder nova]

How heavily does Vers diminish when considering how % DR effects stack?

I assume a lot, since even 10% DR from Vers will just get eclipsed on any mechanic that matters and has you pushing SW and Def

[cinder nova]

I feel like my math is wrong, but assuming you use SR, SW, and Def the actual DR is about 63% and goes up to 65% if you have Vers providing an additional 10%

I'm sure it's even less when you think about IP too

And Fervid

Sidenote, what is the rate of scaling for Vers? How much rating makes 1% DR.

[blazing condor]

yall need any more of them tanks

[vocal flame]

wow

[lusty grotto]

dog youre eu right

im kinda sure but just checking

[blazing condor]

yea

why?

[opaque quest]

Nimchip wants to carry you out of the goodness of his heart

[blazing condor]

[lusty grotto]

stupid blizzard and their invisible borders

[opaque quest]

They built a wall and made the elves pay for it

[lusty grotto]

1 rating = 0.0049% atk/heal (or 0.0024% dr)

roughly

i think its around 0.0048

yea

its very close to 0.0049

soooo

1% DR is...

give or take

wait no

408 rating is 1% DR

2% dmg/heal

[hardy snow]

[lusty grotto]

nice gz!

[toxic pewter]

grats dang with leech too nice

[lusty grotto]

here's its twin which chipadin has

[toxic pewter]

dang where my leech

[broken kite]

Mine has speed

Gotta go fast

[hardy snow]

nice 😄 I have without leech, but still giga

[sick sentinel]

losin haste while i have helmet tier equiped

but, ill have 4 pc today

i don't like 2pc 2pc game play

[left basalt]

i tried to buy rageheart from some guy in LFR, he didn't like my lowball offer

[sick sentinel]

some ppl cant be bought

not for reasonable prices

ya gettin those helmets is must for me

[blazing condor]

tried to circumvent the fact that you cant find a fyrakk group by joining a tindral group

got tindral - waited 20 mins to get a group for fyrakk

1 wipe and everyone roached

[sick sentinel]

"my meatloaf caught fire and my wife just got home with the kids so i have to go"

[left basalt]

ive had good luck with the 3 heroic fryakk pugs the last few weeks, 1-3 pulls and dead boss

[blazing condor]

its not that im having bad luck per se its just that you either dont get invited to any group

or the ones you get invited to take 1 hour to form

cus only melee dps apply and healers are extinct

[left basalt]

This guy fazgazhazjaz on twitch has had successful community/pug clears last week and this week

Little more structured then just yoloing LFG

[blazing condor]

we got a dude doing community runs here all day

but he 1 tanks

[stable tiger]

whats the tech for surviving oakheart grip and deios breath on 25/26+

🥲

[blazing condor]

rotate defensives and get externals when needed

not much more tech than playing your survival well

[stable tiger]

without shield wall I get vaped at 480

which is up every other but it can be a 3min+ fight

its fine but its too close for my liking

[lusty grotto]

sr each one

[stable tiger]

aye

[lusty grotto]

hold demo for the other ones

that arent walled

and/or ask for a cd

[left basalt]

laststand/rally

[lusty grotto]

deios just leap the breath

[left basalt]

scales trinket

[lusty grotto]

and spellblock/sr the adds

at 26 yeah he should be using cheat

and rageheart

defensively

[stable tiger]

I am

and tempted by battle-scarred vet

[lusty grotto]

uhhh no

[cinder nova]

That looks as useless as it sounds

[lusty grotto]

why do you think we are crit gang

[keen nacelle]

Hello is that normal that in galakronds fall at 24 the endboss hurts so painfull after the breath? the first hits with 300-400k and then 190 k every second?

[cinder nova]

Yes, it's Tyr week

Gotta rotate CDs

Have a plan for each big hit

[cinder nova]

What are the breakpoints for DR on vers rating?

[keen nacelle]

every second 200 k is not possible

[cinder nova]

4k? 6k?

[lusty grotto]

extremely high

[cinder nova]

I mean, yeah it is.

[blazing condor]

iridikron gives you a stacking debuff

[cinder nova]

That's 7 seconds or so, if you're not being healed or using IV, pots, or lock stone I dunno what to trek you

[blazing condor]

making you take more damage

[cinder nova]

But 200k a second is very liveable

Trust me, it sounds crazy, but numbers are big again so

Do you have a log maybe?

I feel like at 24 it'd be just very micro issues

[keen nacelle]

was the wrong one

one moment

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/71Lq4GvCVXb9fNtF#fight=last

[blazing condor]

first of all thats murozonds rise

not galakronds fall

[keen nacelle]

xD sry

[strong forum]

6050 is 30% for vers

[cinder nova]

6050 is the first breakpoint on diminishing returns? Or 6050 is 30% damage/15% DR?

[strong forum]

First breakpoint for diminishing return

[cinder nova]

Is there a website that scales key mechanics forwards and backwards so you can see the damage profile of specific key levels on specific mechanics?

[strong forum]

Used to be a thing

Doubt anyone is currently maintaining it

Back in bfa it existed

Forgot the name tho

[cinder nova]

Hmm... I thought Vanguard gave us flat DR? Does it not anymore? Or am I coping?

I vaguely recall PWarr having a flat DR passive

[strong forum]

Everyone had that in SL

[cinder nova]

Took it away?

[strong forum]

Correct

[cinder nova]

Thanks.

[modern gazelle]

So who’s hyped for Microsoft to take over and Bobby Kotick to leave?

Microsoft has been doing so well lately I’m actually hyped to see what they do with blizz

[karmic plinth]

microsoft seems to want to let blizzard just do it's thing (more than activision ever did)

[strong forum]

That's what I heard aswell

[left basalt]

F Bobby Kotick

[vocal flame]

yeah but he is getting PAID ^

[strong forum]

So are drug dealers, doesn't mean they do the right thing

[vocal flame]

I agree

[modern gazelle]

Yeah they want to let devs work on games they enjoy and I’m down for that

Last few years they have been pretty spot on with what they have done. I don’t even use it but game pass especially is pretty solid

[sick sentinel]

chest or shoulders harder to get from keys and keys vault

chest is more stats

[modern gazelle]

You will cata both so it’s the same

[sick sentinel]

this is for mark of mastery

[modern gazelle]

Just depends what dungeon you want to run

[sick sentinel]

i can chose either shoulder or chest

[strong forum]

What are you current shoulders/chest pieces

[sick sentinel]

but i dunno if one puts be on a long farm for the other

old set

[strong forum]

You get a hero piece from the mark

So it's the same catalysing a 17+ item

[sick sentinel]

right, i have 3/5 new equipped

and i have the mark

[modern gazelle]

Chest

[sick sentinel]

and im at the vendor

[modern gazelle]

Then cata shoulders

Get a better head

Head tier isn’t really good. 4Pc should be shoulders, chest, hands, legs

[sick sentinel]

i forgor to equiped chest

[modern gazelle]

Take the chest. Cata new shoulders, replace your helmet and get a myth track one eventually.

If you can I’d go for the shield from mythic gnarlroot

Do you have embellish on shield and waist?

[sick sentinel]

i do at the moment

[torn gulch]

i remember discussing here a while ago but how did you check on a log on what did you used your violent outburst procs?

[sick sentinel]

i can swap it to cloak eventually

or food to cloak

that costs gold tho, 50 k or whatever

[cinder nova]

@strong forum How much of our armor stays for M+ bosses?

[strong forum]

Huh

Wdym

K-value?

[cinder nova]

You know how armor scales up and down based on "equal" enemies or whatever that bullshit is

Yeah

That's the bitch

[strong forum]

The most %

In m+ K-value is the lowest

Same as lfr

[cinder nova]

Approximately how much of our armor do we "keep" during bosses?

[strong forum]

You have more armor in m+ than in the open world

[dusky canopy]

[strong forum]

Well if open world is 100%, in m+ you have like 103%

Smth along those lines

In mythic raid you have like idk 80-85%

[modern gazelle]

I’d like to know as well

[karmic plinth]

wow analyzer tracks it

[sick sentinel]

the jist of it is, if your a tank in a key, and you somehow die to an auto attack or phsyical dmg, you probably royaly screwed up

[karmic plinth]

while its a bit broken overall it wil lshow you the ratio

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/HNFpQjnAfG7BtYrR/36-Heroic+Smolderon+-+Kill+(5:12)/Illyanaéth/standard/statistics

statistics page will have it under talents

[modern gazelle]

kinda cool

[vocal nimbus]

pog

got myself a gnarl mm shield

[modern gazelle]

grats, its a good shield

[sick sentinel]

do you guys normally use the dmg talents or push talents for keys

some 18 20 key farm

[modern gazelle]

push, even in lower keys, i hate the dmg build no shockwave is terrible

[vocal nimbus]

i'd use push with pugs

always

[lusty grotto]

push

i barely run 18s on warrior, everything is above 20s

maybe someday i remember to put them for friend alt vault keys

[median tulip]

Pug 20s are easier than 18s. You get a lot of shitlers in 18s.

[lusty grotto]

you get portal chasers in 20s

[median tulip]

Some yeah. Rarer though.

[dusky canopy]

Yeah pugging 20s after week 3/4 ish starts to become very annoying

You either keep up with the high end pug crowd or you pretty much get stuck at like 2900-3100

[median tulip]

My static is non-functional for Christmas, sadly

[warm plinth]

justhealus.com was the one before but I don't believe there's one anymore. Jushealus's domain expired in like April so it doesn't even exist anymore (not that it was up to date anyway)

[cinder nova]

It's fine, I found other ways.

I appreciate it, though.

I had to show someone the actual math behind why Vers was bad, and it was even more informative to see it for myself.

Even on enormous hits it's pretty dogshit.

All the diminishing returns on our DR and how slowly the mitigation actually scales just completely dumpsters it.

Predictably, however, they are staying Vers andys, I suspect.

[pallid quiver]

That's because people can barely count, let alone pit context to numbers, let alone basic arithmetic, algebra...

[cinder nova]

A gem from the conversation

The math doesn't matter

[warm plinth]

kek

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/taking-a-deep-breath-nicolas-cage-history-of-swear-words-smelling-deep-breath-gif-19883465

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-goos-fraba-woosah-bad-boys-gif-10675202

[pallid quiver]

Maybe if this eas a fight game I'd accept that

[cinder nova]

I mean, you can do pretty wild content without having any grasp on the backend at all, as long as you have good play.

Which is - you know - fine.

I'm trying to push into GM with Doomfist as an OTP and I can confidently say I've never, ever taken a look at TTK breakpoints or any of that nonsense.

Doesn't make any of the math I don't have knowledge of any less true, though.

[pallid quiver]

But what I mean is that i fight games, there's math and all, ut

It requires situations to be presented, which won't always happen

[sick sentinel]

P

[cinder nova]

Oh, yeah, definitely. There are very few players that actually can apply all the wild variables and understand those windows on such a granular level AND apply them practically.

[pallid quiver]

You getting hit by something in wow will happen and is deterministic

[cinder nova]

Only one I can even name off-hand is MewTwoKing

[pallid quiver]

no you've gone way too far into setup territory

I mean like I press heavy punch, me now -2, shouldn't press

or cancel into special

oops the math is funny and context based now

[cinder nova]

Yeah. I see what you mean, it's definitely more reactive. You can definitely still have a good idea of what could be coming, but you never know what until it happens.

[lusty grotto]

S, you know you've hit a brick wall when they go "but top streamer uses it so its good"

[cinder nova]

Yeah, I feel like I wasted that effort.

[lusty grotto]

in the face of math

[cinder nova]

The worst part is duder is doing 26s on his Warrior - which, hey, great. Stacking Vers is probably not the reason he's able to do those keys, though.

Good play is.

So why be suboptimal?

[lusty grotto]

at that point vers probably gains a bit of value just to minimize some accidents

[uneven mason]

It smooths bursts in the moment

[cinder nova]

I was checking the math, it's still poo

[uneven mason]

It's poo

[lusty grotto]

it probably is

[cinder nova]

Like, less than 70K on a 4M hit poo

It's bad-bad.

Fervid just kinda makes it worse, honestly.

[uneven mason]

There are some moments where you can't rely on the rule of averages

[cinder nova]

Because it does so much heavy lifting.

[uneven mason]

Fervid is a good boy

You take that bad S

YOU TAKE IT BACK

[cinder nova]

I mean Fervid makes Vers worse

[uneven mason]

Oh

[cinder nova]

Because it does all the legwork Vers would otherwise try to do

[uneven mason]

I mean

[cinder nova]

So it just diminishes even harder

[uneven mason]

no

since it's a linear reduction in damage?

[warm plinth]

Wait why would fervid make vers weaker

[cinder nova]

%-based Mit all stacks with diminishing returns

[uneven mason]

Because some people don't math well

[cinder nova]

Am I high

[uneven mason]

There is no diminishing returns

it's multiplicative reduction

[warm plinth]

All stacks of what

[cinder nova]

That's the diminishing returns.

[uneven mason]

That's not diminishing returns

[cinder nova]

That... is.

There are two kinds of diminishing returns- multiplicative DR

And rating

But we never hit rating

So nobody cares

Two 20% DRs aren't 40%

[uneven mason]

(Isn't)

https://tenor.com/view/blink-blinking-what-confused-blacklist-gif-13641169

[dusky canopy]

Great show btw

[uneven mason]

The best

[dusky canopy]

I just hit season 9

[uneven mason]

OH, I won't spoil

Ending made me cry though

[sick sentinel]

im at 7100 haste now with this trinket

[dusky canopy]

Dang that good hey??

[uneven mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ssj-blue-kaioken-dragon-ball-z-punch-gif-17229449

[sick sentinel]

i just gotta get another helmet when i get the shoulders hero

[cinder nova]

But that's what I mean. Wall + Def + SR + 14% Fervid is like... 65-66% total DR.

Throwing in 11% Vers only bumps that to about 67.5%

Which is like...

Nothing.

For about 1/3rd your entire secondary budget

Fuck that noise.

When you factor armor and block on physical hits too?

Yikes.

[brave jetty]

It's pretty normal to skip the blood surger patrol just before Dresaron (3rd boss) in DHT, yeah?

[uneven mason]

AS long as you don't have a bunch of window lickers yeah

[brave jetty]

just had 2 people in a fucking 23 blame that skip

[uneven mason]

That is one of the worst places to have an "oops" pull

[brave jetty]

because they went out of their way to pop eggs the second we crossed into boss room

[uneven mason]

because you're going to get knocked allover unless you duck into the cubby

https://tenor.com/view/super-troopers-snozberries-gif-14313820

[warm plinth]

Yes, it's a very normal skip, even in lower keys

[brave jetty]

I thought I was insane, every route I've ever seen skips them and people on every key level seem to be able to handle it

but they blamed the route lmao

[uneven mason]

Some times you just get the flipperhanded monkies

In my pugs it's been a coin flip

I've started being the "last one in"

to make sure no one facepulls him and puts us in a shit position

[brave jetty]

If I'm last one in I'm probably uncomfortably close to the pat getting to me

[uneven mason]

#Justleapthings

[cinder nova]

I keep having a hard time getting pugs to kick the patrol in DHT leading to 1st boss so we can pull them, the sabers, the owl, and the other caster.

They just let it spam as I'm trying to draw it through the choke

[brave jetty]

DHT groups and letting mobs freecast, name a better duo

[warm plinth]

was searching something and found this. @patent osprey pls explain

[uneven mason]

TFW The DPS don't kick the disorient
"WTF TANK HOLD AGGRO"

[patent osprey]

er,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I plead the fifth

[warm plinth]

[warm plinth]

sidestep it nerd

[uneven mason]

Context