protection

[lusty grotto]

you just need the mats, theyll tell you which

[blazing condor]

if only you could sort

[lusty grotto]

yeah the real pain is looking at that list

they used to have a search, but i guess people abused it and gave their backend a stroke or something

[blazing condor]

doesnt help that ive ran like 100 old raids past month as well lol

[lusty grotto]

[uneven mason]

This is so painful "why did I have to do a full world tour xmog run after I accidentally vendor my 2h"

[blazing condor]

gotta have a high IQ to be able to restore this one

[novel temple]

Spell block’s pretty dope when it works too

[blazing condor]

it was on page 37

[lusty grotto]

lmaoo

[sick sentinel]

TERRIBLE cloak tw reward

dont do it

i have to find some 18 that i can run that drops a shoulders or chest

[blazing condor]

surely next week ill get heroic gholak, augury or brand

[sick sentinel]

i got the hourglass

[warm plinth]

[plucky idol]

rezan and accelerating sands 489s good for tanking? or meh

[jagged pier]

Good

[plucky idol]

ok thank you

[loud light]

I have 4-set not including legs. My chest is champion and I just got a non-tier mythic chest. Do i just replace chest with mythic and upgrade legs to tier set?

[jagged pier]

I can just upgrade the chest to tier

[sick sentinel]

i got one of those today

[vocal flame]

Congrats yogi!

[toxic pewter]

dang just lost a rageheart to a bdk i ripped aggro from probably over 50 times

feelsbadman

[vocal flame]

[toxic pewter]

something about bdk in raids i rip aggro from them more than any other tank

[uneven mason]

they don't have bursty damage

[toxic pewter]

i think they need to just press their buttons more

[jagged pier]

no they bad

bdk should be doing more damage

than us

generally

if your at the 99th percentile mythic we eek just ahead

but not by much at all

[blazing condor]

yeah i usually rip from my cotank BDKs

but thats not really a "class vs class" thing

[soft plume]

where is link to how strong trinkets are for prot war

[blazing condor]

just that the average tanks dont optimise for damage

[blazing condor]

https://bloodmallet.com/chart/warrior/protection/trinkets/castingpatchwerk if you want it in simmed numbers otherwise go look at the icyveins guide

[soft plume]

the average wow player doesnt optimise for damage 😂

[blazing condor]

📠

[pallid quiver]

they don't optimize for walking across the room

or logging into the game

Or breathing through their nose

[uneven mason]

So true

https://tenor.com/view/neti-pot-sinus-nose-water-runny-nose-clear-sinus-gif-24654612

gotta flush bruh

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334323

[soft plume]

was trying to decide between rezan and belt, rezan is nice but i mean i think ill only be using that if imtrying to squeeze out a 100 parse in raid, and even then it looks like raid trinkets are just better

[uneven mason]

context

[lusty grotto]

rezan is better for any dungeon that has RP-stops that drop signet stacks

[uneven mason]

so most of them

I never got a Rezan in BFA

[soft plume]

i just use defensive trinkets in m+ but i could prob get away with dmg trinkets since its tyran this week

[lusty grotto]

kind of, a lot of the rp you can play around

[uneven mason]

I'll never unequip it

until next season

when I can get a 540 RWS

read that roadmap for Season 4

[lusty grotto]

idk what defensive trinkets are

[uneven mason]

[lusty grotto]

cause all of them do damage

this season

except for cheat

[uneven mason]

That egg thing

from EB

[lusty grotto]

now that's inting

[uneven mason]

😄

[lusty grotto]

if youre using that garbage

[uneven mason]

"Its shield absorbs so much" (After you take damage??????)

[lusty grotto]

might as well not use anything there lol

[uneven mason]

NGL I was trying to do some M+ on my druid

and forgot I had his artifact equipped

[lusty grotto]

so war within coming out in late summer hmm

[uneven mason]

dropping your ilvl

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[uneven mason]

18month expansions

Lets just say I didn't notice until someone was like "Bruh you need gear"

384ilvl

😄

[lusty grotto]

troll and draenei heritage armor nice

finally

[uneven mason]

Didn't we get Draenei heritage armor

it's one of the paladin tiers

[lusty grotto]

lol nah

[uneven mason]

"Gold shit with crystals"

[toxic pewter]

wat u guys using 4th spark on

is 2nd ring the play

[uneven mason]

Going to upgrade my UFFB

just to be different

[lusty grotto]

im probably upping my BR bracers

which is gonna be bad to use because no upgraded belt or SF piece but it is what it is

[uneven mason]

You can just make a belt

and put SF on it right?

[lusty grotto]

yea

[uneven mason]

sounds like the play

[dusky canopy]

TROLL HERITAGE

[uneven mason]

might actually roll a troll

[dusky canopy]

OG troll here

[uneven mason]

I have all the allied races done

but for gnome

HMT 2nd best Heritage

[sick sentinel]

highmountain probably best race for prot warrior

i wonder how hard wm 18 would be for me

[dusky canopy]

No bias at all

[soft plume]

can engi brez still only be on bracers?

[strong forum]

think so ye

[sick sentinel]

ah

everything in the store is on sale

[waxen frigate]

I bought 3 transfers last night

[sick sentinel]

hit them up see what happens

worst that happens is they say no

[waxen frigate]

How much is the 3 pack rn

For server transfer

[sick sentinel]

im pretty sure its 30% sale

[vestal moat]

How can Prot proc the ouroboreal necklet? got it in my vault and am considering

[sick sentinel]

Yo, is avoidance a stat we care about? got a hero track belt with socket and avoidance but it would repace my mythic track belt

[chilly brook]

@waxen frigate is like 100kish overall ok for BrM at like 460?

[waxen frigate]

Idk give log

[chilly brook]

I don’t think I have one

[waxen frigate]

Details breakdown will suffice

[chilly brook]

I know for a fact I’m doing a shit ton wrong

[waxen frigate]

Gives me more info than a flat Dps number

Send talents and breakdown

[chilly brook]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/wzT3ghFJ8VjCW6rA#fight=3&type=damage-done

Found a log

[soft plume]

your first problem is there's no warrior in those logs

unless im blind

[chilly brook]

Discord auto moderation on this server sucks

Rip joke

[uneven mason]

Griff

[chilly brook]

Yes hello

[uneven mason]

Why you doing the monk thing

[chilly brook]

Cuz I want an alt

[uneven mason]

You know warrior mains don't have the zugzug to monk

[chilly brook]

And when playing with friends that are like not close to where I’m at progression wise I feel like I’m just cheating the dungeon experience when I bring in my 483 warrior

[uneven mason]

So cheat!

Smh, trying to monk

[chilly brook]

Plus WW gonna be fire now

[uneven mason]

Storm earth and fire

[waxen frigate]

Immediate impressions: your single target rotation sucks, you’re not using blackout kick enough, your EK and WTS use are severely lacking,

[jagged pier]

We dont care about teriary

[waxen frigate]

I’ll dm you to keep this chat Brew-less

[pallid quiver]

a single point of speed is worth 50 ilvl in the feels, tho

even tho it does nothing

and you won't actually notice it

but go fast

[uneven mason]

You never drop ilvl

Barring trinkets and this tier, gholak

[blazing condor]

ilvl >>>>> secondaries >... tertiary

[uneven mason]

Secondaries>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tertiary

[sick sentinel]

i might just get an AH helmet for now and use the token i have

[uneven mason]

Wat

[toxic pewter]

hey i am prob a bit late to ask this but final boss of dht, how do the pink/red swirilies interact with the boss? apparently I dont want the boss to be in them or what

seems like the radius of the circle is pretty bad

he keeps getting hit by them

[jagged pier]

welcome to legion hit boxes

[toxic pewter]

yeah pretty awful

i look like an idiot dragging this boss around...

[soft plume]

can engi brez bracers still fail?

[jagged pier]

yes

[uneven mason]

They're like a solid 10ft larger in diameter than they appear it's triggering watching DPS just get obliterated when I can see that they're clear

[toxic pewter]

well i just ruined a double upgrade 22 cuz honestly i thought they were just meant for the players to avoid lmao

[sick sentinel]

i only have 2 set pc bonus so far season 3, would probably help alot if i get 4

[blazing condor]

wait what

xavius gets buffed by the swirls or what

[jagged pier]

yes

[blazing condor]

(i didnt play legion)

so what does he gain a dps buff?

[toxic pewter]

its actually sort of difficult to keep him from getting hit by the swirls..

[strange lintel]

forcing to tank 20s kicking and screaming. just did a rise. do i just ignore shield block and dumb all on ignore pain to survive murozond?

[toxic pewter]

O_O

[jagged pier]

[strange lintel]

im asking D:

i dont tank lol

[blazing condor]

there's fewer swirls to deal with if you keep him along the edge btw

[jagged pier]

no u rotate cds on breath

or leap the breath

[waxen frigate]

TIL

[strange lintel]

breath is the thing that murders me then okay

[toxic pewter]

Ok thank you for this tip will do that in future

[jagged pier]

d stance as well

[strange lintel]

didnt think of leaping

thanks

inb4 leap to safety and fizzle a dps

[blazing condor]

thats why you jump backwards

[toxic pewter]

gotta plan for it

[blazing condor]

the same way boss is facing

[jagged pier]

someone show him the paint drawing

[strange lintel]

lost to time

[hollow aspen]

Did ppl saw the early thane talent ? They all look insane

[blazing condor]

idk if this is what u meant but this is a drawing

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/832390254895300648.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[pallid quiver]

it's really more like this with pugs, tho

even if you spin him away, they just follow

[toxic pewter]

that why u use reverse psychology and face boss to them

[vocal flame]

that deios or whatever?

[toxic pewter]

yea

[pallid quiver]

it could be a tree

[vocal flame]

tree i find easier to leap for some reason

[pallid quiver]

It's shorter range

[vocal flame]

ah ok makes sense

[pallid quiver]

you can legit run out of it iirc

Deios is like a whole ass 40 yds

So you really need to max leap and take a few safety steps

[vocal flame]

you pre jumping before cast or right at the cast?

[pallid quiver]

If you jump before cast, you might get melee'd in the back while going out

which is less than preferable

But you can kinda inch step back to ensure you're at max his melee range to give you some more leniency

[vocal flame]

copy that ty

[keen turtle]

How we feelin about this trinket for m+ bois?

[pallid quiver]

Pretty rough, iirc

it's at least a decent stat stick, but there's a lot better trinkets out there

[uneven mason]

I changed my name a day early I guess

[jagged pier]

u dont change it

[uneven mason]

K

[blazing condor]

in here you dont change your own name

only blue names do that for you

[sullen gust]

Is there a tldr on the mountain thane stuff? I read through it and it feels a bit too random and low proc chance, though maybe I'm reading it wrong?

[pallid quiver]

boss that's a almost a year out in implementation

it means tc does things

[sullen gust]

Yeah, just curious on if people liked the direction

[pallid quiver]

it's not execute so it sucks

[sick sentinel]

terrible imo

very bad besides versa stick

[soft plume]

@patent osprey do u prefer to go left or right in AD this week?

[wind oak]

go left !

[patent osprey]

left is better tbh for speed

right is better if u have pugs that dont kick

so in pugs i go right

in coordinated groups i go left

[pallid quiver]

what if you have a group that coordinates not kicking and stacking on top of each other at range

[plush tendon]

left is asking for troubles in pugs

[strong forum]

doesnt the big golem fuck up your dps

havent done left side since BFA cuz that was HARD banned

[dusky canopy]

I had a vengeance take us left last tyr week it actually went pretty smooth

Felt like the packs did fuck all but we had lots of cc floating around

[uneven mason]

Yeah if you can lock down the casts and don't have people licking windows left isn't horrible on tyr

[soft plume]

how do u make it so your entire team doesnt kill themselves in last boss of AD? is it simply an iq check?

[uneven mason]

Dodge spiders, and yes IQ check if they're targeted by wracking pain

CDs for soulrend

[sick sentinel]

tree threw me on the ground

i struggle in this dungeon for the most patr

[vocal flame]

@sick sentinel Thank you!!! Love them

[sick sentinel]

both of them are my fault

[vocal flame]

Did you race swap?

[sick sentinel]

no, but i may

[vocal flame]

ah ok I thought in the other clips you were a Tauren

[sick sentinel]

maybe use it to get an undeadd if i dont have one for achievement

might not have night elf either

oh right, thats the whatever thing

you walk over it

[patent osprey]

im kind of appauled that skyhold icon doesn't have the santa hat on it yet

[dusky canopy]

^

[hazy bronze]

What about a Hanukkah icon?

[thorny stone]

I always get mesmerized by the button presses in your videos

[tired forge]

how to deal with that?

[broken kite]

Love to see it

[strong forum]

I'm praying to see this trinket on both my war and rsham tomorrow 🙏

[strong forum]

@blazing dune fix when

[broken kite]

also got a 26 rise, so that'll be fun

[strong forum]

That's for sure the correct word to use in the sand area

Spiteful fun

[broken kite]

( :

[sick sentinel]

i think pretty much all you can do is prepare to save SW and IP and or pray healer or paladin or somethin is paying attention and DR's you

[broken kite]

also go d stance for grip

free 20% dr

[sick sentinel]

not a terribl idea for beginner prot warriors in keys to use defensie stance in basically any scary sitaution

fi you got no idea whats going on, everyones taking dmg

[cinder nova]

Sad day, lads

I got replaced by a prot paladin

[tired forge]

what u guys mean use Def Stance? im always in DF xD

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/boo-boo-this-man-patrick-star-mr-krabs-thumbs-down-gif-17677514

def stance is more to be viewed as a defensive cooldown you use when needed

rather than the default stance

[tired forge]

in Fortified weeks i stay on def stance unless its boss fight, the other way around in Tyranical weeks

im not optimal or 3k rio, i just take it easy 🙂

[glacial lynx]

So I see 7100 as haste cap and mentions of wafting but even over 7100 haste gems are simming as my best and sophic is beating wafting should I just stick to what the sims say or am i messing them up?

[cinder nova]

Stay on sim unless you got simbait somewhere in there

Just double check your settings.

Also, be aware that once you start cresting 6500 depending on the rest of your itemization, trinkets, and other bits and bobs, you might get crit gem/enchants, or a mix of crit/haste and it could bounce around a lot

Mine has the last few ups.

[lusty grotto]

stick to sims

sims take into account caps

haste cant really simbait S

of course you have to be aware that sims take into account full ITF uptime

and other things

but thats just generally true in raids at least, and in optimal scenarios

it might not be as accurate in keys perhaps

[frigid garnet]

u can swap stances on bosses with phases like EB first boss Or last boss but on packs only low keys

[left basalt]

heroic viewer/pug

[cinder nova]

I mean more like if you got a weird proc or trinket that looks good but is actually dookie

[lusty grotto]

for sure

[cinder nova]

Like... Signet is huge, but it's actually kind of mid on certain fights by how long they go and what value you can get before you can get enough ramped procs

[sick sentinel]

A priest healer joined them

[jagged gust]

The priest is only there because one of the wars is arms

[sick sentinel]

some guy in key i joined

[bleak breach]

I had to change all my enchants and gems, was at 7400 haste

[warm plinth]

when opening in prot on baby woyer doesn't backfire

[warm plinth]

[cinder pasture]

I'm ready for tomorrow

[strong forum]

Acceptable shield

[sick sentinel]

yeah thats a pretty good shield

[vocal flame]

will a socket go away if you turn it to tier?

[cinder nova]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

Do... has it not reset for you guys?

[cinder pasture]

EU reset is Wednesday 😛

[cinder nova]

I see.

[vocal flame]

Since the Mythic track i got was a freaking cloak this is the next best cause it has a socket

Will it go away if I cat it?

[warm plinth]

no

[vocal flame]

ty sir

[cinder nova]

PFFT

I just got finished pugging H Fyrakk and some havoc brainlet almost wiped the entire raid by holding last seed. We still killed it, but it was just me and the other tank because another (smarter) havoc dropped darkness and it let us both live the AOE in P3.

Called him out, he called me blind and said he didn't have it.
I link him the exact point in the log where he was the only person with the buff at the end of the kill

lol bro get a life, let it go

I swear DPS players are fist-fighting koalas for lowest cerebral surface area of any mammal.

[strong forum]

I had a lucky pug

Join HC fyrakk and 1shot it

Smooth as butter, 1seed went off but I had spirit link ready and everyone was already stacked

So we outhealed it

[cinder nova]

Yeah, it's hard to find skip groups that don't already have 2 tanks.

[strong forum]

Yeah I just sign up as dps/heal

Way easier to get in

[warm plinth]

healing woyer pog

[azure smelt]

would u guys craft a +10 ilvl ring with flavor pocket or a +3 ilvl shield? i will end up replacing the shield eventually but the ring i might have for a while (or the whole tier)

assuming im not getting mythic raid loot

[strong forum]

Ring

[warm plinth]

what level keys are you doing/do you hope to do? Because unless you're pushing bleeding edge keys I'd probably say the ring

[azure smelt]

highest is 23 want to do 25-26's at least

prolly ring right? its not that much extra block

[strong forum]

Ring gets a free socket

[azure smelt]

yea im gunna go with ring ty boys

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'dd go ring for sure

I'd*

[broken kite]

24% mastery is still recommended for cheap crit block chance right

[west root]

What loot spec does everyone open the vault as?

[broken kite]

arms since i got h gholack

[lusty grotto]

for block chance?

no

its not for block chance

[broken kite]

crit block chance

[strong forum]

20-25% ye

Around that ballpark

Cheap investment for maximum return value

[broken kite]

sweet glad i remembered correctly

[lusty grotto]

thats doable with tier anyway

[strong forum]

Yeah

And gholak

[broken kite]

24% exactly

[lusty grotto]

and haste mastery helm

off tier

like you dont even have to look for it

[bleak breach]

So many sockets already Wowee

[broken kite]

yeah got really lucky with rings especially

only one from vault

[bleak breach]

I still need to do Aotc

My guild hasn’t got it yet, think I’ll just pug. But feel bad skipping ahead of them

[broken kite]

pug as dps post guild weekly raid

what i did

[bleak breach]

Yeah that’s what I’ll do

[chilly brook]

I have about the same

Only difference is only one ring is socketed but I have one on my belt

[strong forum]

Fyrakk HC is literally just
Healers - dispel on cd and heal adds
Everyone - don't hit heal adds with line
Tank - don't drool too much onto the floor and tank adds away from heal adds

If you can do that GG boss dead

[broken kite]

indeed

it's pretty chill

[bleak breach]

Yeah seems pretty chill, we only had 2 attempts lastweek and having a bit of a break over Christmas so will need to put

[round forum]

Little annoying with no dks though

[strong forum]

Eh

Just need to have a brain to kick/cc/kill the correct ones in time

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

do you have a brain Nome

[strong forum]

Sometimes I pretend I do

Someone recently told me that they thought I was so cool for being TC

But now they know me and know I'm just another pepega

[lusty grotto]

[warm plinth]

I bet it was @patent osprey; he seems like the kind of person who would simp a TC

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/cats-kitten-fight-fighting-cute-gif-21414392

Nah that's more like this kind of relationship

[pallid quiver]

but the the adds don't do anything other than aoe shadow damage on every slam. What's that gonna do, kill the heal adds?

[warm plinth]

[strong forum]

They pulse fire dmg no?

[pallid quiver]

(i believe they do yes)

[strong forum]

And melee brains gather around them

So they inadvertently blaze the adds

[warm plinth]

I gotta say

[strong forum]

You gotta micro manage melee dps

[warm plinth]

Luerce is a man of commitment

[pallid quiver]

Melee brains in the groups I tried go off into Narnia or into hell off the platform

I don't try raid so much no more

[strong forum]

My vault is stacked

I did full HC on rsham and warri

And like 20 keys on each

I'm strapped the duck in

I'm not correcting that

[pallid quiver]

Of course I am, gotta make sure we all be the best we can be 🙂

[warm plinth]

Luerce is the only person I know who is committed to hitting that button to turn off the reply mention every single time

[strong forum]

Ah

True

[pallid quiver]

oh that

How do you even check that I do that?

[strong forum]

|| get pinged idiot ||

[warm plinth]

No @ sign

[strong forum]

Oh

That's sneaky

[pallid quiver]

Oh, yeah, I don't care if I get pinged; it's for the sake of others

I'm not inportant enough to have to worry about getting meaningful pings, so

[strong forum]

Same

[warm plinth]

My "important" pings are people in MPF asking me to ban random people

so, not exactly important

[strong forum]

MPF...
My pony friendship...

[warm plinth]

I should've known you were a brony Nome

[ruby musk]

H Gholak can't drop in vault if you haven't killed H Fyrakk, right?

[strong forum]

Correct

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, gotta drop him first

[strong forum]

Important to note

You only have to kill him once, ever

To unlock his loot vault

[ruby musk]

So then the best chance at DPS trinkets is Arms?

I don't need a shield

[strong forum]

Yeah

[warm plinth]

Yeah, removes 1 of the weapon types and tank trinkets from the pool

well, 2 weapon types if you count shield

[left basalt]

Same for keys I assume?

[warm plinth]

yerp

[pallid quiver]

which is convenient, because pug groups are always a gamba if you're lazy like me

[left basalt]

Sweet just gripped the axe in a pug

[warm plinth]

You still want a good weapon even if it's not Fyrakk's weapon though

[strong forum]

Fury drops 1h and 2h weapon + dps trinket
Arms drops 2h weapons + dps trinket
Prot drops 1h weapon + shield + tank trinkets

Everything else is shared

[warm plinth]

I believe normal fyrakk is bis already though, compared to anything but higher ones

[strong forum]

Yes

[pallid quiver]

Shit's nutty

[ruby musk]

Vault hates me

[warm plinth]

gorehowl pog

[pallid quiver]

I didn't even get socket from vault

[strong forum]

That's a socket angle unless you play arms

But I'd kill fyrakk first if you do play arms

[jagged gust]

Embrace fury, take the gorehowl

[ruby musk]

lol

[warm plinth]

I don't like fury build this season 😢

[strong forum]

Cuz I got the legendary the same day I got gorehowl from vault

I wasted an entire vault

[ruby musk]

I like Arms > Fury and I'm our MT so the stat transfer is better overall

[pallid quiver]

But the mog tho

[strong forum]

I had mog from last patch

[pallid quiver]

Rip

[left basalt]

Wouldn’t legendary +gorehowl offhand be best?

[warm plinth]

Last season fury was so much fun

[strong forum]

Fury stinky

[left basalt]

Or playing arms?

Ahhh

[jagged gust]

I took a signet, then got a signet from the weekly a few weeks ago

[strong forum]

Yeah don't take stuff from vault

If there's a chance you get it from another source

[jagged gust]

lesson learned

[pallid quiver]

Or take it and commit ti nit making leggo for arms

[warm plinth]

Luerce gud typer

[ruby musk]

Well, the belt is a straight upgrade but I'm going to be sitting on a crafted.

[pallid quiver]

At work and being bullied qq

[ruby musk]

For some reason making rings are simming at a dps loss

[urban portal]

link sim

are you sure you enchanted it

[strong forum]

And socketed

[toxic pewter]

prob getting more haste on the crafted ring

[ruby musk]

It was enchanted and socketed. I ran it as a compare one sec I'll grab it.

I figured it was because I was getting over haste cap.

[toxic pewter]

yeah prob jsut get more dps from other stats i bet

[warm plinth]

Yeah other stats are gonna be better than haste for damage even before you reach 7100 haste most likely

[urban portal]

so you are saying

stats matter

[ruby musk]

Mythic Dungeon : https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/i423Zk3pjZVw5GfqbdAftT

[pallid quiver]

Before looking even too deep, dungeon slice don't work

[ruby musk]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vtuLY7gH8ipQdv2HhN3Qgi

So at most I'm looking at a 200ish dps increase from just 1 ring which seems weird.

I might have to play with other stats - maybe make a crit / verse something.

[strong forum]

Well you already have 2 socketed rings

[ruby musk]

Yeah

[strong forum]

So obv the gains ain't gonna be large

So yours is just a replace lowest ilvl item

[ruby musk]

Yeah

[strong forum]

Aside from gholak ofc

[ruby musk]

Yeah, I have the N Gholak and we're progging H Fyra so it'll be a bit

Belt is probably the play

[strong forum]

Shield

[ruby musk]

Shield over belt? They're both 476.

Well, the belt is 470

But I guess I could take that from vault as the upgrade and do shield

[strong forum]

Shield is the most important defensive item

Belt is just... Belt

[ruby musk]

Yeah

You're right. I can get both.

I'll just sim out which shield for stats.

[strong forum]

[ruby musk]

It'll probably be Verse / Crit

[old flame]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/garrosh/ilyamurometz How good is mirror for us?

[ruby musk]

It was good for me as Arms, not great at all as Prot

[old flame]

Just finished the Sim, says mirror.. :/

was it just not a DPS increase for you or was it awkward to use?

[lyric moth]

on DHT, what talent do you give up to get Bounding Stride for the tree boss?

[old flame]

honed probably? it's what i have empty

[pallid quiver]

None due to bounding by default

[old flame]

also that

[pallid quiver]

I'm more curious what your tree is if it's not just a default pick

[old flame]

does mirror sim weird on prot?

or is the fact that it's myth track putting it over the top?

[lusty grotto]

the fact that you have a 441 beacon still is putting it over the top

its a decent trinket anyway

the bad part is the 3 min cd basically

so with proper play you have it up every 4 avatars

proper play meaning if avatar is at 45s cd with AM

you have no choice, you need a trinket

[old flame]

got it, makes sense

[lusty grotto]

up them up so other trinkets are discounted

[old flame]

I ran the sim with mirror, viney and pips maxed

[forest fern]

anyone used nightmare egg shell trinket, it any good or junk?

[old flame]

thanks for the advice Nim

[lusty grotto]

junk

[forest fern]

thanks for the confirm thought as much

[lyric moth]

I dunno, are people using it by default these days? It's not part of the wowhead guide on prot warrior for M+ at least, and I haven't been running it other than on DHT personally

It looks like the wowhead one takes Pain and Gain instead of Bounding Stride to answer that question.

[lusty grotto]

we use the pinned ones

thats why Luerce is asking

[toxic pewter]

life without bounding stride.. i remember those days.. they were dark times.. shutters

[lyric moth]

bounding stride would be nice in some cases like the horrific run in throne of tides, though I don't usually find myself missing it too much. I'll try running it some more than on just DHT I guess then.

[pallid quiver]

This, yeah. O believe Mwahi's guide on IctVeins also takes it by default

[lyric moth]

yeah, icyveins does have it

is Pain and Gain just not good then? Not sure why Wowhead recommends it, looking at the amount it would actually heal it doesn't seem very strong (~45k every 10 seconds, but not necessarily when I actually want it)

[pallid quiver]

It's just very nice qol that's worth more than things like pain and gain healing

Pain and gain's a comparatively small hos; won't save you, is just kinda neat

[lyric moth]

yeah, in the BRH 20 I just ran, it was around 6% of my healing. But I don't have a convenient way to tell how clutch the healing actually was vs "could've been easily replaced by some other healing source"

[pallid quiver]

HPS, mostly

Good spitball

[toxic pewter]

yeah but like 40% of it is overhealing

[pallid quiver]

Of note is that bounding strode is just straight defensively better on DHT and Rise

[lyric moth]

rise is for the breath from deios, right? Just to make sure I'm thinking the right thing...

[ruby musk]

It was just not a dps increase for me

[toxic pewter]

yes many people leap the breath on deios

[vocal flame]

I am in pain

[pallid quiver]

At first I thought the 19 was connected and was very confused how you were connected for over 2 weeks

[vocal flame]

DPS just kept standing and getting feared like I was getting trolled lol

Only get 5 aspect crests for not timing 😦

[fair elm]

why are prot warriors considered low tier right now? Checked pins but didn't see anything

[pallid quiver]

Not 1st place

Therefore garbage, can't tank +2s

Will explode if you take damage without pressing a defensive first, rather than pressing after

So it's really bad if you lack any motion in your fingers whatsoever

Those are the single biggest reasons

[dusky mica]

Blizz just bad at numbers. Their balancing is awful. Probably worse than last season.

[pallid quiver]

That's a bold statement

Especially considering hiw close the tanks in particular afe this season outside of VDH dam

[patent osprey]

yeah we suck 😦

[fair elm]

I guess what I'm asking is more: What are the valid reasons we are behind other tanks? just the damage profiles?

[dusky mica]

They could make disrupting shout 45s CD and a real silence to start

[patent osprey]

I have to wear this on tyran just to be a budge prot pala with sac

[dusky mica]

kinda cringe

[hardy snow]

lol, some specific boss's mechanic, or just general usage?

[patent osprey]

VDH -> Best Aoe utiltiy/control
PPal -> Can keep team alive
Prot war -> Jams while entire team is dead

[pallid quiver]

Damage in aie for M+ is a good kneejerk, they gave VDH a lot of nice qol, you can't force pugs to stay alive like with Pala, it's not fairly basic mistake proof to like like BDK,

[dusky mica]

Pika is probably on the 'can't loot a Fyrakk trinket' bus.

[patent osprey]

yup

[pallid quiver]

and people just stopped shit talking bear for whatever reason

i dunno i dont keep up with public oerception all that well

There are soecific things that other tanks outperform in, but it's not really that major

[dusky mica]

Time for them to juice avatar back to BFA levels.

[hardy snow]

its quite simple - there can be only one 1st place, and then community thinks they must play this 1st one for their +18 weekly or their great push on +24

[dusky mica]

give it a nice 2 paragraph tooltip like Sentinel

[patent osprey]

TO BE FAIR.... Prot war doesnt really have that niche this season with what they are better at

[pallid quiver]

we give battle shout for all the melee specs being played

[toxic pewter]

Apparently season 4 all the dragonflight dungeons are coming back

Not really looking forward to them to be honest

[weary saddle]

last week bolstering, i found it very satisfying when a bolstered trash mob casts a reflectable spell and i reflect it back for big numbers

this week i look forward to TOTT last boss on tyrannical to reflect.

reflect is so so satisfying

i actually look forward to the reflect more than the key timing. rush of adrenalin on big fat reflect

okay maybe its cos i use a weakaura to trigger a big pop sound on successful reflect. maybe its the pop sound that is satisfying

[toxic pewter]

Waycrest 2nd to last boss has some big reflect damage

[weary saddle]

yes waycrest couple

its true, i never quite bothered with reflect until i set up weakauras for the pop sound in reflect success. now i pine for that pop every time

its the audio visual cue for reflect satisfactiob

[toxic pewter]

You don't really press rend, we have the talent Blood and Thunder that makes Thunder Clap spread rend around automatically

[plush socket]

yea sorry i just saw the pin now mb

[weary saddle]

urban myth is growing that legendary drops more for pwars than for bdks lol

[cinder nova]

The fact that people think that just means people have no idea how math works.

[waxen frigate]

what does it have to do with math

lmao

[cinder nova]

There's a hell of a lot more BDKs clearing Fyrakk than PWarr, from N to M.
BDK are just gonna have more than PWarr unless we have some absolutely insane bug that spikes our drop chance that I doubt would be so easily overlooked.

More BDKs = more chances for it to drop for BDK = more Leggos in BDK hands.
In other words: math.

[jagged ferry]

Do you guys spec into Throw for Incorporael?

[cinder nova]

You can, sure, but I don't know anyone that does.

Between the cast time and the CD it feels like you really only would hold on to it as an emergency in the event you lose one of your dispellers and need to stop one.

But we also have bolt, fear, shockwave, pummel... so, it feels kinda like a wasted talent in the same way running a cheat death trinket is pointless if it's never proc'd.

[pallid quiver]

I just tell pugs "lmao i literally can't do anything oopsie" even though I can totally shut one down

[solar dagger]

does anyone know why on mythic council aerwynn leaps at different timings?

[cinder nova]

I wondered that myself.

[warm plinth]

I'd rather spec into menace than throw tbh. Especially since the throw that actuall works on them has a cast time, which is no bueno when tanking.

Safer option, it still has some benefit on the other mobs, and you can use it twice as often.

But generally I just let the rest of the group do it

[quartz mist]

hows Catacysmic Signet Brand in M+ ? not worth taking the dmg from trinket ?

[lusty grotto]

the damage does nothing

[warm plinth]

It's great if you can make sure it stays up for most of the dungeon. It's ass if you can't/don't.

If it drops more than like, 2 or 3 times in the dungeon, it probably isn't worth it

[round pendant]

I'm telling you

I've had like

10 wrists from vault

I hate this game

[cinder nova]

I thought you could still block/dodge/parry during Shatter?

[warm plinth]

I don't know, but I was just speaking from personal preference. I'd rather not have to hardcast something while I'm tanking when I don't have a lot of control over when that's going to be. With something like beacon, you can delay it if you need to in order to do it safely. Can't really do that with incorp.

[cinder nova]

Yeah.

[quartz mist]

thanks man , just farming 11s , its good for that at least. 5.6 Mil dmg overall. high keys its prob a no no

[pallid quiver]

The damage it deals to you is trivial

What matters more is if you can keep the stacks making it do its damage up

[quartz mist]

yeah , i didnt let it drop at all , just face rolling through it

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, if you do that, it's by far best trinket in game, all content

[quartz mist]

hows augury performing with the nerfs ? still assuming its top tier trinket choice still

[lusty grotto]

the nerfs from... 2 weeks ago?

[quartz mist]

I've came back from SoD grind , so im a little late lmao

[torn gulch]

replacing 489 head with 489 socketed tier head feels kinda beans but it is what it is

[cosmic wyvern]

sorry for replying to a 2 day old post, but how detrimental would it be to run bolster over bloodsurge

[lusty grotto]

you want a... 2 min SB?

over rage gain?

i feel that answers for itself

[winged slate]

I'm not sure that 2 minute last stand is particularly valuable without old tier.

[warm plinth]

nerp

it is not

[lusty grotto]

right, the cdr is what made it

not to mention the damage boost

[winged slate]

I don't even like last stand that much as a cooldown to begin with

[warm plinth]

w/o last season's tier, I barely pressed it lol

[winged slate]

I press it if I'm out of good buttons to hit and I'm low

[jagged gust]

It's still macro'd into everything so I just pretend it's not a real skill anymore

that shit is a passive with 30% uptime

[winged slate]

15s / 180s

Hmmmmm

[jagged gust]

alright 12%

close enough

[winged slate]

30% and 12% are very different hahah

All g

[jagged gust]

In my defense

I completely forgot what the numbers were

[winged slate]

Anyway fuck bolster that talent blows now that old tier is dead

All hail fervid bite

[weary saddle]

i dun understand "fervid bite" in the context of Pwar. we dont bite. what class fantasy is this

Fervid Bite should be for Feral Spec

it does not make sense that Shield Slam consumes bleeds either.

[lusty grotto]

have i ever told you guys how much i dislike immersion nerds

as if magic made sense at all

[warm plinth]

I just wanna know how I keep attacking with my weapon after I throw it on the ground and make it spin like a top with no sign of slowing down even though it's hitting multiple physical objects.

[lusty grotto]

true

[warm plinth]

or hear me out

We proc deep wounds because we hit stuff with our weapon, but why does hitting them more not do more damage with it? Surely we've created multiple deep wounds at that point?

[lusty grotto]

but listen

[crisp fractal]

Shoulder or Beld Mythic Upgrade or Stonescales (don't have it yet) i dont realy push M+ but me and my guild are currently at 4% Mythic Smolderon. Would you use that think in Raiding? I still hope that someday the Tank trinket from Fyrakk will drop. You can't kill hope 😉

[lusty grotto]

if we can hamstring multiple times, why not just chop enemies legs off, surely it would be a hack away

[warm plinth]

TRUE

[sand pebble]

Why are we devastated at devastates damage and not those we are devastating

[warm plinth]

Why do I have to talent into the ability to yell loudly enough to slow mobs down, and why would a yell slow them down anyway

[lusty grotto]

on that same vein, why are we executing someone but failing to do so

[warm plinth]

Why can bird mounts fly enough to not walk but not enough to actually fly in certain areas(or even glide) until I do quest chains and make people like me enough

[modern gazelle]

Feels good when you reclear+prog kill in 2 pulls on first night of raiding

Myth Nymue down 🙂

[sand pebble]

Why do we get so angry when we avoid a hit that we want to take revenge upon our enemy

[warm plinth]

And then we don't even press revenge that often, even when the opportunity is free

🤯

[sand pebble]

No no Why can my fish fly but not swim fast

[warm plinth]

There's a fish that can fly but not swim fast?

[sand pebble]

Yes

[warm plinth]

the fuck

On that same note, why can one of my jellyfish fly, but the other one can't

Okay but

in reality

[warm plinth]

Fervid means intensely enthusiastic, passionate, burning, hot, or glowing. If you think of it like a bite with a weapon, not you actually biting something, then it makes sense.

[sand pebble]

So we are passionately biting our foes? Sounds kinda hot

[warm plinth]

And since it's burning, it consumes the bleed because it cauterizes the wound while doing extra damage (due to the bigger wound)

Get fucking immersioned

[warm plinth]

Hey I don't kinkshame

[sand pebble]

Where did I kink shame? I said that sounds hot

[warm plinth]

I didn't say you did

[sand pebble]

And I can't read

Lol

[warm plinth]

I didn't say that either 😉

[lusty grotto]

but what did you say?!

[sand pebble]

Bitemedaddy?

[warm plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9NIZM-hMF_8

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/hold-up-hold-up-meme-fallout-meme-gif-3737350009659669155

[sand pebble]

Back to cn

[warm plinth]

Did you see there was a woman at Blizzcon with a pretty sick Denathrius cosplay?

I saw a pic of her somewhere

[lusty grotto]

yeah looked pretty good

[sand pebble]

Find it

[lusty grotto]

i think she lost to whats her name the d4 baddie?

[sand pebble]

No I didnt

[ionic fern]

Diablo?

[lusty grotto]

sir

ill take my leave

[ionic fern]

😦

[warm plinth]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Czedh0GPYS6/

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[sand pebble]

Ty

[warm plinth]

Nah it was Lilith, not Diablo

[lusty grotto]

ya that one

[warm plinth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM_ecXbpt6c this was Lilith

ok we try to sleep more now

🏃

[ionic fern]

That's a weird one.

Good night.

[pallid quiver]

I'm late on this one, but morale and feeling affect how people fight and maneuver on a battlefield a lot

wait fuck

I pinged him because it was long ago, but discord didn't show me he went sleepy

[ionic fern]

Rude.

[weary saddle]

that sounds like my wife's Fervid Bite. she does that to me frequently.

[sand pebble]

Twice in 5 mins, changes name to 'my sleep doesn't matter'

[teal swift]

I really wanna see what new flavour hero talents add

Rn fury warrior is looking lit.

[ionic fern]

Not as lit as Prot Warrior.

[blazing condor]

Pog more tc

[light dune]

Vault check

[ionic fern]

Nada.

Waiting to get home from work.

[teal swift]

Been reading overgeared lately

So fury fits the MC better LOL

[light dune]

I'm thinkin about opening the vault as arms to fish for trinkets

[teal swift]

Only if you have a normal gholak and above

Is this worth

And a 489 shield

[light dune]

I have a normal gholak and a hero track shield (483)

[ionic fern]

Idk what that is, but i'm happy for you.

@strong forum about to get Rageheart.

[light dune]

Hopefully I can get invited to HC fyrakk this week since I'm 8/9 and 477ilvl

[strong forum]

yeah nah

healer stole my gholak instead 🙂

[ionic fern]

Ah, makes sense.

[warm plinth]

Imagine not having your phone on silent in 2023 smh

[echo egret]

I am starting to question what loot spec I should use to open my vault.

[pallid quiver]

simply don't open the vault

let it fade to dust

[warm plinth]

Do you need shield or weapon? Prot.

Otherwise Arms.

[echo egret]

I have a crafted shield and Volocross weapon.

[warm plinth]

Is it mythic

[echo egret]

i don't raid mythic

We clear AOTC once then stop raiding, usually

[empty nacelle]

hey all. quick q about secondary stat caps/haste cap. I've seen a few comments saying stack haste until 7100. my understanding tho is you get 10% diminishing returns starting from 5100. Is it not better to go for other stats at 5100 instead? Is haste actually that much better?

[jagged pier]

yes haste is that much better

and u really dont loose that much

for every 10 haste u loose 1

so u get 9 instead of 10

so u dont loose anything really

[empty nacelle]

fair enough, thx 🙂

[jolly lagoon]

m+ embelishments, what should I aim for? I see loads of combinations or not even combinations on some top players

[pallid quiver]

Double shadowflame's the best, but they're not particularly that major

[warm plinth]

Ideally you'd make wrist and cloak with shadowflame

[jolly lagoon]

I have socketed allied wrists currently. and a cloak with fury stats.

dont have a good neck, so was thinking about making a lariat

[warm plinth]

You can just make like...a non-embellished neck though and make a better embellishment

[blazing condor]

guess we go myth track tier again this week

[jagged pier]

i got socket

[blazing condor]

think this is my 5th week in a row i pick tier piece in vault

[jagged pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/832390254895300648.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[blazing condor]

at least i got 3 myth track tiers now

[surreal birch]

is there any clue or eta when we can just farm crests?

[ionic fern]

Why would you just farm Crests?

[empty nacelle]

probably 10.2.5

so probably late january

[surreal birch]

capped on all but aspects, and I still don't have everything on 476

[blazing condor]

i still dont have dreaming of wyrms

despite being 481

[teal swift]

If you need a wep fury also viable

[sick sentinel]

still 2 pc 2pc

this is cursed

[ionic fern]

Sounds like a "i don't play the game" issue at this point.

[chilly brook]

True and real

You can catalyze 3 pieces

And you get a free one for hitting 2k

[sick sentinel]

yes but i just can't be arsed getting into 18's to spam for gear

[chilly brook]

So literally a “I don’t play the game” issue

[sick sentinel]

i have to complete the 18, most likely on time for ppl to stay and trade gear

not blasting catalysts on champion shitter gear

[blazing condor]

bruh i just recrafted my ring by using shadowflame spark

[chilly brook]

Wow you have to do content to get rewards

https://tenor.com/view/the-universe-tim-and-eric-mind-blown-mind-blown-meme-mind-explosion-mind-explosion-meme-gif-18002878

[sick sentinel]

u missin what im sayin, im not doin it on champion

cuz ill just get hero eventually then myth

[ionic fern]

Why are you complaining that "this is cursed" then?

[chilly brook]

???

I’m timing 18s at 450 ilvl on a dk

[sick sentinel]

it is cursed imo

[chilly brook]

Copium af

[sick sentinel]

2pc 2pc

[chilly brook]

I don’t even have 2pc

[ionic fern]

You are on 2pc/2pc because you refuse to do content.

[chilly brook]

Or last tier set

[ionic fern]

Which is not "cursed".

[chilly brook]

I’m literally doing 18s with no tier

[ionic fern]

🤷

Damn, it's cursed, i'm still on T29 with my lvl 60 priest alt.

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/shame-gif-1360414391475442208

[sick sentinel]

i just don't like equpping 2pc 2pc and would prefer to equip hero or above 4 pc and wont blast catalysts on champion gear

[opaque quest]

Even my DK is on new 4p and i did like 10 keys and 3 HC bosses in the first 2 weeks

Do HC then. Most ppl are on 4p and you get all tokens anyways

[chilly brook]

Or just like

Get a free hero piece

[opaque quest]

Oh ye 2k IO

[sick sentinel]

theres lots of content that i DO know really well, like bfa dungeons especially

and so,

19 wm and 18 ad

[opaque quest]

Im on 1.3k or so with 1 16. Pretty sure 2k is doable with everything 14

[sick sentinel]

both recorded already even

but theres dungeons that based on the clips i keep submitting i clearly DON'T know very well like i died to tree grab dht and got 2 ppl killed with lust on first boss

[blazing condor]

read the dungeon journal

[opaque quest]

Watch youtube videos

There are masterclass guides from Quazii

[ionic fern]

In addition to you not listening to feedback.

[sick sentinel]

and those situations i gear up and then after fully powering up go for that dungeon i dont know so well

[opaque quest]

Like i dont even play the game anymore and ive watched the masterclass guides just to be ready if i come back lol

[blazing condor]

for the "dreaming of" achis is it the actual ilvl thats counted or the default

aka the path

[sick sentinel]

yeah im not trying to bitch and moan and make excuses why it is what it is

i just simply said, oh, it's cursed (i dont like it)

[blazing condor]

saying its cursed comes off as "theres nothing i can do about it"

[sick sentinel]

at the current spot im at without getting wow token or 18 or waiting for vault and praying it has relevant hero slot (h s or c)

i do have to take some action if i want to get that piece of gear

[opaque quest]

Sounds like me when i played lies of P (never played soulslike before)

But then i got gud

[blazing condor]

yeah thats p much it

[sick sentinel]

yep

[opaque quest]

I hated all the git gud comments

But they are right lmao

[sick sentinel]

and i dont see point of doing 20 wm so that i can portal to wm to farm out transmog gear

[opaque quest]

Same applys here mr yogi

[sick sentinel]

except for

oh wait

its only on my warrior

[opaque quest]

Remember that having a portal to drustvar in general is good

I consistently used my CM ports for mogushan back in 8.3 for Nzoth assaults

[sick sentinel]

that i've ran the dungeon a billion times over already on LFD, normal, heroic, mythic 0 bfa keys and now DF keys

theres nothing the portal can possibly give me at this point

[chilly brook]

Doing 20s at 467 on a class I don’t even know that well….

There is no excuse

You just don’t want to put in the effort

[opaque quest]

Not even 3k yet. Loser. Git gud

[chilly brook]

I am on my main

Aka the warrior

[sick sentinel]

i'd be interested in doing portals if they unlocked for account

[opaque quest]

Why arent you 3k on all classes? HMMM?

[chilly brook]

You right

[sick sentinel]

yeah, you dont have the mage tower all classes mount?

what kind of loser are you? /s off

[jagged pier]

im not even 3k on my main

because after portals theres no need to do anything

[opaque quest]

I just wanted 3k last season so i can say i reached 3k

Doubt i'd do it again either

[blazing condor]

wym you can plant seeds in emerald dream

[jagged pier]

yer im not doing that ither

[opaque quest]

Breedable dream?

[blazing condor]

[vocal nimbus]

are we going to drop a sf patch for lariat any time this season?

[jagged pier]

no

[strong forum]

Yeap, looking good

[warm plinth]

Yogi is not looking for advice; he's looking to monologue and post doom videos

[tropic ember]

Am I right in thinking it’s x2 shadow flame armour patch for embellishments ?

[warm plinth]

[sick sentinel]

you guys were the ones that mentioned doom 30th anno

i brushed it off iirc

i dont really actually play doom that often

[opaque quest]

Heal logs

Take 2 less heals. Get easy 100 logs for free

[sick sentinel]

let me put it in a more different way you can understand it

when im dead and gone, people will STILL be creating and consuming doom wads

[opaque quest]

Yogi are you having an existential crisis?

[sick sentinel]

that game is literally as big as mario or sonic now, will never die unless train crash

[strong forum]

this man cant read

[sick sentinel]

i cant say ppp will be still playong wow and makjng addons for it in another 10 20 years, maybe

[light dune]

Doom?

[blazing condor]

maybe if ur 40

[light dune]

Never played nor know anyone whos played it

It's a boomer game

Like wow, but older

[sick sentinel]

its a doomer game

[blazing condor]

its one of those "legendary" games but it has no relevance in gaming today

[sick sentinel]

if there was no doom or wolfenstien 3d

wed still likely be on ps1 graphics

[blazing condor]

thats true but doesnt mean the wright brothers first aircraft is as big as a boeing 737

[light dune]

You don't see people playing space invaders 2023

[jagged pier]

nice addition to details

[sick sentinel]

thats how big of a technical leap wolf doom and quake are

[blazing condor]

gonna play with full assa rogues and have 0% downtime in combat

[sick sentinel]

i think its really important to remember stuff from the past

or else it just gets lost into the void

[jagged pier]

so why have u forgotten every bit of advice we've given u in the past?

[sick sentinel]

even if you werent around during those times

[light dune]

Doom could disappear from existence no one would care

[blazing condor]

[light dune]

[sick sentinel]

i could explain it to you why doom is love doom is life

[opaque quest]

Oh damn

You got me

[sick sentinel]

but its you get it or you dont, the only doom is that you create for your self

youre creating hell or subjecting yourself to it

[light dune]

Doom is for 40 year old redditors and their unsuspecting nephews on christmas

Who get it as a gift and drop it to play call of duty with their friends

[sick sentinel]

im trying so hard right now not to say doom is eternal

[opaque quest]

I played eternal last year. Time to make a reddit account and age 10 years

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20760081

[sick sentinel]

what difficulty level

[light dune]

I guess you could say you're doomed

[sick sentinel]

real doomers play on at least uv for new doom

if you set any doom to less than uv imo miss me we aint frens

but fuck nm cuz fuck respawning enemies and fasfer enemeis / projectiles

[opaque quest]

I played on hard like every other game. But im also not the guy to dump 200 hours into a 10hr sp campaign

I played it once then dropped it

Same with dead space for example

[ionic fern]

[sick sentinel]

ds is easy af im sorry

chop off limbs, um, dont die i guess? thats about it

the hardestmpart i had in that game was money until infinite monwy glitch 3/4 in

[ionic fern]

That's the same as WoW.

Just attack and don't die.

Yet, here we are..

[opaque quest]

Just dont die

Meanwhile yogi struggles with 20s

[blazing condor]

just IDDQD in doom

[opaque quest]

While having it figured out

[blazing condor]

easy game

[opaque quest]

I played IDDQD when overwatch released and got my ass handed to me

[blazing condor]

hes a god gamer

[sick sentinel]

okay, so why cant i attack dht tree boss and break off hhis arm

[blazing condor]

average swede playing video games

[ionic fern]

You can attack DHT tree boss.

[opaque quest]

Honestly dying is part of it. You learn from mistakes if your IQ isnt single digit

[sick sentinel]

then hed not be able to pick me up and throw me at ground

[ionic fern]

You know, you use another part of your brain that says "Okay, big damage incoming, let me mitigate it with a cooldown".

[sick sentinel]

well im saying i should be able to damage his grabbo arm

[opaque quest]

Doesnt DBM have a timer for the throw?

[sick sentinel]

since its same as deadspace

[opaque quest]

You see it tick down you press SW

[sick sentinel]

and then now he simply cant grabbo arm me

[ionic fern]

WHY CAN'T I SHIELD WALL IN DS????

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-star-spongebob-squarepants-wow-mindblown-gif-13169052

[sick sentinel]

umm i forget if there is a big dr item in ds or not

[ionic fern]

No

I WANT SHIELD WALL.

Not something else.

[opaque quest]

Now i want the foam finger gun in wow

[sick sentinel]

well u dont get a shield in that game so rip bozo

you have bddn granted the power to smasha your nonexostant shield in deadspace

[ionic fern]

You have a button assigned on your keyboard to press Shield Wall.

[light dune]

Having a stroke rn

[opaque quest]

Just click 4head

[thorny stone]

When I introduce people to this discord I always tell them that yogi is something akin to our pet

[sick sentinel]

actually, typing on tablet what is truly cursed

type arthasxz without ac, type, arthritis with ac

cant win that battle

[opaque quest]

I think the aneurism is coming

I can feel it

[blazing condor]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-gif-23331449

[sick sentinel]

u should seea doktor about that

[opaque quest]

Simple fix

I press shield wall irl

Gonna mitigate the brain dmg

[sick sentinel]

sheild vital to life

protec from all and big resists, stops physical atacks, shield op irl

[blazing condor]

time for another week of fighting a 500 man battle royale to get a tank spot in a fyrakk pug

[echo egret]

And see everyone with a tank spec roll against you for the tank trinket

[ionic fern]

That many tanks?

[fickle coyote]

Yo big guys

Can augury drop when looting vault in prot spec?

Of only DPS specs?

[blazing condor]

its impossible to get a tank spot theres like 100 tanks applying for every spot - not to mention a lot of groups just 1 tank it

[ionic fern]

Don't think so.

It's only DPS spec.

[blazing condor]

augury is only dps

[ionic fern]

Rageheart is tank lootspec.

[ionic fern]

That's a big surprise to me tbh.

[fickle coyote]

Yeah thats why I'm asking, was hoping to aim for both xD

[ionic fern]

Still used to no one playing tanks.