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warm plinth
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I was gonna say, I'm pretty sure I was playing that shit as a kid

pallid quiver
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yeah, it was 1999

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so uh

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Getting to the three decades

warm plinth
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My brother was really into those games back in the day

pallid quiver
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i'm still into them

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i like big robot

modern gazelle
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Any idea what his build is? He seems to be running bolster

tawdry dirge
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anyone has a good WA for the Health on oakheart grip?

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cause my UI is going bingobongo when i get gripped and i cant predict my health at all

warm plinth
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Your UI should not be moving 👀

tawdry dirge
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well the healthbar ofc 🙂

warm plinth
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I'm not really sure what you're asking for. None of your UI elements should be moving

tawdry dirge
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usally i see like my 1 mill hp and if i get hitted it get reduced to )randomrumber) 800k

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on oak heart i cant really see my HP cause it get fucked

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i sometimes see me on zzero HP but after the grip i am on full hp still

warm plinth
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That's...weird

tawdry dirge
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i guess i need to do a screenshot to explain it better

warm plinth
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Never seen that happen before

tawdry dirge
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yeah it is super weird thats why i ask for a WA to see my health still normaly 😄

warm plinth
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https://wago.io/pVLZlDCnB idk something like this?

Nice big health bar with absorb shield and incoming heals shown. All quantities display percentages and absolute amounts

tawdry dirge
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maybe that works cheers

light dune
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Yea my health bar disappears too for some reason

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And I'm not using UI addons

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Maybe I just don't know where to look but my normal health bar disappears

raw void
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Are you talking about your Personal Resource Display or like your actual Player Frame?

blazing condor
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did they perma change the path the superbloom takes to make it shorter

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or is it cycled

sick sentinel
jagged ferry
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Uhhh

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Imagine this was Myth Track

median tulip
median tulip
restive scroll
sour coral
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Wait can double proc shut now ? How far can you get speed leech avoidance socket proc haha

tawdry dirge
median tulip
rigid badge
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Does anybody know if the shadowflame damage from the Embelishment count as fire damage to trigger the neck from Volcoross?

tawdry dirge
rigid badge
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Nice, ty

tawdry dirge
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frostfirebelt should trigger it too

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since it tdid trigger the ring in s1

sick sentinel
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legit put 60 hrs into that game last week

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first 60 was learnding'd very basic mechanic

manic cypress
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do u guys use this macro in the pin?

thorny stone
broken kite
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Yes

restive scroll
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Since shield slam is our highest priority GCD regardless of anything else (almost), yes, I do

toxic pewter
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That macro is what turbo charges the new tier set if I say so myself

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Perhaps one of the greatest macros of all time

jagged pier
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Note it replaces your IP bind not your SS bind u still have that

blazing condor
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the right sequence gotta be ss > tc > ip for the tier

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so u dont burn outbursts on tc

grizzled nova
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rezan should always be kited back and forth between the same two waterfalls on the side where there are no raptors

median tulip
rancid tiger
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There should be rsptors

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They are perfect to funnel dmg into boss

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For sev specs it adds st dmg

harsh trellis
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wut

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So spawn raptors for padding?

rancid tiger
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No for more st on some specs

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Arms as an example does more st if it can cleave off raptor

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Sp is prob same

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Would guess frost aswell

warm plinth
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spawning raptors on purpose is silly tbh

rancid tiger
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Not if u gain st dps from it

harsh trellis
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extra mechanical shit I dont want to deal with

warm plinth
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No one gains ST dps from it because no one is going to use them in that way. They're just going to pad on them.

rancid tiger
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Ehm

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I just gave u 3 specs

warm plinth
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Read

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what I said

rancid tiger
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That gain dmg

harsh trellis
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its just padding

warm plinth
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Yes, some specs CAN gain damage on ST from having multiple lower health targets available.

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But is the average pug going to actually utilize them for that? No, they're going to pad.

rancid tiger
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No1 switches to em

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So i mean if pad is cleave without loosing st its still not terrible

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But again i guess ive got a different pug exp than yoy

warm plinth
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Well if you're not gaining anything from spawning them, then...why would you spawn them?

rancid tiger
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You

warm plinth
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Scenario 1 (Ideal): You spawn raptors on purpose, everyone in the group respects their purpose, and funnel specs get more damage.

Scenario 2 (Likely): You spawn raptors on purpose, no one respects their purpose, and even if you do have funnel specs that try to utilize it, the non-funnel specs are just going to pad them down in 2 seconds anyway.

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In the end, the AD timer is not tight and Rezan is a target dummy anyway. So it's not worth it.

median tulip
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TBH I've had runs where there was 1 raptor and it was quite advantageous to have something to build rage on while hiding from the fear

harsh trellis
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I love that dungeon though

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I keep soloing the last boss in bugs though

warm plinth
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I have PTSD from Yazma in BFA still

flat stratus
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hey guys , is there a bug on fyrakk encounter with the tank frontals cause everytime i get the frontal i always spell reflect and i hear the spell reflect but doesnt show on details.

timber nest
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It doesn’t reflect the damage it just reduces the damage

warm plinth
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Which means you avoid the damage, but it does not do damage to the mob.

strong forum
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you avoid the magic portion of the tank buster*

grizzled nova
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50 of them at once wouldn't deal any noticeable extra damage, and you get infinite rage from bloodsurge

grizzled nova
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yeh

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so long as you're the one spawning them and can grab aggro immediately it's whatever

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eggs are only annoying when someone gets blasted across the room and spawns them a million miles away and you have to deal with it

harsh trellis
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yeah, that and the bats on the final stretch , I hate those things

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usually if you have a healer to cleanse you or someone to slow them and you can haul ass. but man I hate those bats.

warm plinth
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Stun them, group reflect, bats ded

harsh trellis
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so tell the group not to do anything and just spell reflect them?

grizzled nova
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reflecting it just prevents the debuff on you and pads the fuck out of the meters, but doesn't actually kill them

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because they leech life from the debuff, so they're leeching their own life to themselves even if you reflect it

warm plinth
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It's not pad when it actually does damage to a mob that needs to die.

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And in the case of those mobs, it prevents the debuff from going on you.

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Which is the more important part anyway

grizzled nova
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yeh but it'd be way cooler if reflecting it leeched the life to you

uneven mason
warm plinth
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It would, yeah

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Immortality hmmNod

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I need the game to give me armor pieces. War has been 1 piece away from 4pc for over a week

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Might just have to see if I can get ksm on that toon this week

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Kinda doubt it though

grizzled nova
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but I spend 90% of that pull just running away and tabbing through them with heroic throw

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so I don't really get the debuff anyway

blazing condor
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finally

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too bad its normal but we take it

uneven mason
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Better than any heroic weapon

blazing condor
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🤓 ☝️ well not heroic gholak

strong forum
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it also beats pretty much all myth weapons

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basically every weapon that isnt gholak :^)

karmic plinth
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feels great we can lock in an item so early in the season

toxic pewter
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if only it looked cooler

sick sentinel
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would be cool if on discord you could link items like you do in wow

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option to open it up in 3d model viewer maybe

toxic pewter
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that would own

brazen sierra
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Hello guys, sorry to bother you with that but do you know where i can find a good guide who explain the right way to use fervid bite please ii feel quite lost 🙂

uneven mason
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Play

blazing condor
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dont think there'sa vide

jagged pier
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The right way is to just send it

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No thought

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Just send

blazing condor
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good idea is to track it

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so u know when youre missing rend

brazen sierra
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ok i get the point, to maximize the benefits from the bleeds. thx !

restive scroll
royal obsidian
uneven mason
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Too bad no one wants arms in keys warriorbrain

toxic pewter
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wat

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arms owns and groups love arms

blazing condor
toxic pewter
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anyone that says otherwise is either ignorant or going out of their way to be wrong

toxic pewter
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gotta 1v1 them show dominance

uneven mason
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I'll try that next time I get declined for a 16 as arms okayge

vocal flame
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Hi All! Good Morning. Silly question, is shield slam damage based mostly on ilevel of shield or is it shield and weapon combined?

solemn current
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Purely attack power

stark sandal
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How does one sim for m+, do i just go 5 targets 1 minute and so on?

vocal flame
uneven mason
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Shield is still your #1 slot for upgrades though

vocal flame
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Ok copy that. Once I get my wrists and cloak done I will prob craft one unless I am lucky enough on vault lol

uneven mason
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What shield do you have?

soft plume
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for the first two big pulls of tot on a 25 what are the preferred healers

uneven mason
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Because I cant emphasize enough that shield will have an insane amount greater impact over bracer and cloak, as those are very low budget slots

soft plume
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are rdruid the "god healers" cause im not sure if i've just been unlucky with them

uneven mason
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Also by first 2 pulls, do you mean first hallway

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Or do you do each pack?

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Since bolstering means you need to not have a dozen adds on the big ass crab

vocal flame
violet ginkgo
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not bad, not bad

vocal flame
plush tendon
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avoid all the bad tank trinkets

dusk sphinx
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so i found myself starting to enjoy prot warrior as my first tank ever but is it just me or does the spec have a lot of buttons, like you have rend but it's applied with thunderclap too, can't i just remove it from my bar then? 🤔

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do you guys actively make use of whirlwind and hamsting too?

timber nest
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Never use whirlwind, never use hamstring

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You can remove rend because thunderclap does that and slows

dusk sphinx
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ah cool, thought i might be missing some secret tech but i'm basically overthinking all the spells 😄

rich isle
dusk sphinx
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sounds like a great way to keep a mob out of a pack if you don't have DH prison etc.

toxic pewter
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hamstring definitely needs to be on bars with a keybind

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i know some people put with charge or something as a macro

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i dont do that personally

dusk sphinx
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that make kinda sense for some situations

charred ivy
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this macro IP and shieldslam. do you just replace IP with it if i understand it right

waxen frigate
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Ye

charred ivy
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coolcol

charred ivy
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in pins

vocal flame
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tyty

charred ivy
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dont thank me thank person who made pin hehe 😛

warm plinth
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Fixating mobs (snap dragons for example), spiteful, etc

uneven mason
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Remember when thunderclap was a real snare

light dune
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What does your name reference @uneven mason

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Which breath

pallid quiver
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both breaths of note, 2nd boss in DHT and Deios in Rise

uneven mason
toxic pewter
uneven mason
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The cone has a limited range

frosty mango
uneven mason
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So you avoid the double tank buster on tree and getting obliterated by dieos dot

uneven mason
frosty mango
uneven mason
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TFW the vdh leaps across the healer during breath

frosty mango
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Ngl if it’s a war or vdh I always sr and er the first breath if im dps because of leap shenanigans

median tulip
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The purposes of the macro is the snipe Shield Slam resets

vocal flame
dusky canopy
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@lusty grotto I caved homie

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Playing fury now

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For prog anyway

toxic pewter
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gross

dusky canopy
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It’s so 🤮 but it sims 10k higher and lives way easier

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So gotta do it.. smold prog starts tonight!

toxic pewter
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makes me sick

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u getting all mastery'd up or wat

dusky canopy
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Yeah all I need is BRH neck then I’m chillin at 221k sim waiting on Lego/489 weapons

toxic pewter
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damn

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u gonna own

dusky canopy
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That neck gives me 3k bro

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Imagine

toxic pewter
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dang

left locust
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Any prot war streamers you guys would say to check out in my free time for learning more?

sick sentinel
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just, observe

vocal flame
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Your cursor is yuge!

sick sentinel
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you know what i wish they woudl do instead of the bubble

winged slate
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Use keybinds instead of clicking shit

devout knoll
sick sentinel
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is, it is still the bubble and at 5 on countdonw the buble fades slightly and you can do that really slow struggle run like at the replay fight in doti

winged slate
sick sentinel
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slow is completely global and you cant cheese it in anyway at all besides maybe a blink

devout knoll
winged slate
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I didn't specify shout, you did

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I said that you should keybind shit instead of clicking it

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Because that dude is staring at his bars and holding W

devout knoll
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And my point was, it's probably a waste of a keybind lol, autowalking off a ledge is just not paying attention, not anything more, whether it was a shout or another ability, kind of irrelevant

sick sentinel
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it was really dumb

winged slate
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Right but the root here was staring at bars while trying to click

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Anything that you might need to press in a time sensitive window should probably just be keybound so you don't need to stop everything to press it, or risk doing something dumb

sick sentinel
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its the old stick in wheel

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damn bike sucks meme

blazing condor
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ive always said BRH was free but man the last boss kinda hurt

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almost one shotting my dudes with bolts

lusty tiger
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only on the bolt before you get the hp buff

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and maybe if he bolt volleys when someone has the bat on them

blazing condor
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yeah the first volley hurts

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but even in p1 before

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he'd 80% our dps with normal shadow bolts

left basalt
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I try and pop rally for that first cast usually

blazing condor
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yeah we did

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first volley wasnt a problem

sick sentinel
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those cone archers in brh are the worstr

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pug deleters

cinder nova
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How extreme is Mythic Smolderon's movement compared to Larry and Nymue? Or say, Mythic Sarkareth, Mythic Zskarn, and maybe Mythic Echo?

vocal flame
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Hammer them

cinder nova
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Consolidation not only lets you kill them faster because they're in the stack, but playing by cover lets you juke a few of their random arrow spam casts.

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ADAD spam the cover, pretend it's CSGO and you're peeking main lol

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At least, for the DPS.

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Shooting at you does... well, you can block it, so nothing.

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Or, rather, you should be able to block it. I haven't bothered checking, but it is a Legion dungeon and I'm vaguely certain they added ranged block post-Legion.

sick sentinel
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blocking a bullet or arrow ranged attack should basically fully negate it imo

cinder nova
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But all these expansions get blurred together. I'm almost 30 now, my mind isn't what it used to be.

sick sentinel
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cuz its like, thats what happens in real life and other games too

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basically once it hits wall or beam your hiding behind, dmg and range completely falls off

cinder nova
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Okay, yogi, hear me out - it's just balance.

sick sentinel
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well, apparently warrior doesnt have a good edge, is that a good edge? could be broken if there is some archer only boss

cinder nova
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I mean, the fact we can block it is the edge.

sick sentinel
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we dont have cc, we dont have mobility, and we dont really have dmg

cinder nova
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I don't think you realize how powerful block is if a ranged boss existed and we could block their spam.

sick sentinel
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cuz likr put it into perspective

strong forum
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Cuz for tank is 1-1 the same fight as on normal HC or lfr

cinder nova
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Oh, word?

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Huge.

sick sentinel
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that ps1 game, both a learning, and a do 95% of the kills run

strong forum
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Nothing changes on smolderon except that some dps have to kite big balls

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That's it

sick sentinel
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both took 60 hours each, 2 runs, 120 hours totalt

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on easy

cinder nova
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M Larry and M Nymue made me sweat since I'm not as used to high tank movement, but they've been super keen on making tanks very positionally conscious.

sick sentinel
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god only knows how difficult it is on normal and hard

strong forum
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The only boss that's different for tanks than on HC is....

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None I'd say

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Maybe tindral

cinder nova
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I'm talking M

strong forum
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Cuz alternating soaks

cinder nova
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Not heroic

strong forum
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Yes

cinder nova
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The fuck is HC

strong forum
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And I'm saying

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On mythic they're the same for tanks

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As on heroic

cinder nova
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Really? Tindral movement is identical?

lusty grotto
strong forum
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Tindral the only boss where it's different

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Cuz you soak 4 times

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And not twice

cinder nova
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How is the mushroom damage? Still blockable, yeah?

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Do you need to be facing mushroom or boss? I assume boss?

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But who knows with how scuffed they program shit

strong forum
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Face boss

cinder nova
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Good. I was worried it was another invisible rabbit situation

unreal abyss
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how do you feel about warrior in this raid tier? looking to push first CE, didnt lock a tank

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i do no more than 3k in m+ so thats quite w/e

strong forum
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Pwar is pretty strong this tier defensively as all tankbusters are mixed dmg with a larger portion being physical and all being blockable

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Except volcoross but that boss doesn't matter

waxen frigate
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🙂

unreal abyss
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anything nice for spell reflect?

waxen frigate
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Also re: pwarr in raid. The issue is that it doesn’t provide anything or particular value compared to other specs in the role. Notably BDK, pala, and vdh this tier

strong forum
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For dmg? In raid never

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Spell reflect never does dmg in raid outside of bugs

unreal abyss
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we are tanking with DK and I am between monk or brew, I initially got AOTC on pal but we have 2 rets and a holy

waxen frigate
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Brew and pwarr are in an identical raid spot rn imo

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Both just offer nothing special but aren’t terrible

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You’re just a tank. That’s it Rly

unreal abyss
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what does vdh offer?

waxen frigate
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Silence is the main thing on fyrakk

unreal abyss
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for brew I hoped I'd have more dps at least 😂

waxen frigate
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Brew Dps fell off this tier compared to the rest of the xpac

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We lost a lot of power since early 10.1 especially

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When they removed WoO borrowed power interactions and then we lost Aberrus tier set

unreal abyss
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Idk why but my pala seems much squishier than brew/warr when I play keys around ~+20

waxen frigate
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And amirdrassil tier just doesn’t do a lot for the most part

unreal abyss
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thats why I wondered if one of these wont be better especially since we have many paladins

waxen frigate
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Warr always feels insanely sturdy

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Paladin is squishy when it has to move especially

unreal abyss
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So technically between brew and warr its about which buffs are we missing?\

lusty grotto
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post paladins dont stay in ther consecration, which is bad

unreal abyss
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as we lack a warr and have a MW in main squad

waxen frigate
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Tbh if you have any specific brew questions I can give in-depth answers.

waxen frigate
unreal abyss
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I just wonder how different are war and monk this season 😄

waxen frigate
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You need battle shout

unreal abyss
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for m+ and raid

waxen frigate
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Both mid

unreal abyss
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(first time CE Progress)

waxen frigate
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I’d just play your preference and fill buff slot if needed

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If you’re just now starting mythic prog for the first time you’ll be getting to all of the bosses post-nerfs with really good gear

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survivability is basically never a question for tanks in raid

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The tank composition comes down to utility needed

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Or personal preference

unreal abyss
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we had some problems on AOTC fyrak as pal couldnt group adds on p2

waxen frigate
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I’ve played brew all xpac

unreal abyss
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thats why I went with brew 😄

waxen frigate
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🤔

unreal abyss
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it only stop casts

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doesnt group them like grip does

waxen frigate
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Oh I forgot they don’t move

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I mean still

unreal abyss
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so dps couldnt cleave

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yea

waxen frigate
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Monk has… RoP

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BDK is hard bis for that

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vdh can I guess chains but idk if that’s actually worth for them

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Haven’t played it much this tier post-rework

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Monk will generally be more forgiving in raid defensively, imo. Penalties for things like turning your back or forgetting to press a cooldown can be less severe. You should very rarely have tank survivability problems in raid. In almost all cases a tank death is a skill issue or mistake

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By either yourself or your cotank in some cases

honest vale
lusty grotto
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nothing aggregated is ever good

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it lacks context

waxen frigate
uneven nymph
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How do we handle kiting groups of enemies without turning our backs to enemies in mythic plus

unreal abyss
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+20 hurts on 470 on all 3 😛

uneven nymph
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Just Ignore pain and pray? Or like stun and run a bit

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Ahhhhh

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Is the block angle 180° then I take it?

strong forum
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Yeah

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If you wanna be even better your jump strafe

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And turn midair towards facing the enemy

waxen frigate
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Or just 360 like a chad

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Let god decide your fate

strong forum
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That way you can move at 100% speed

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And block

uneven nymph
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Ah I see

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That's where the like difficult micro comes into play with prot I take it?

strong forum
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Positional requirements on pwar are higher than on other tanks yes

waxen frigate
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Other than pal I’d say

grizzled nova
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I mean

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consecration yeh

strong forum
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Pal still gets a bit more leeway

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Cuz they have higher armor + better failure recovery tools

grizzled nova
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none of the tanks aught ever be getting meleed in the back for more than the odd incidental

waxen frigate
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The shield tanks have it rough though

waxen frigate
strong forum
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^

waxen frigate
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Pwarr and ppal are the worst for sure

grizzled nova
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position on ppala and dk is way more annoying

waxen frigate
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DK is easy what

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Oh no I got hit in the back guess I’ll death strike to full

grizzled nova
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I mean the difference between the odd melee hitting your back is incidental

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Being a slave to consecrate and dnd is way more impactful and annoying

waxen frigate
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DND and consecrate are not an equal comparison

grizzled nova
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There is no additional positional requirements on a pwar vs other tanks wrt to getting meleed in the back.

waxen frigate
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No but when the spec’s entire mitigation profile is block based

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It’s more impactful

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Compared to the tank where the mitigation model is take big hit->heal it back the next global

grizzled nova
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For the amount that it happens, not consequentially, and some tanks do have other positional considerations that may cause it to happen more often.

strong forum
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A decent chunk of our dmg profile is also frontal orientated

waxen frigate
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That is also true

strong forum
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Bear dh bdk and monk don't have that

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Well

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I guess bof

waxen frigate
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DH kinda does

waxen frigate
strong forum
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Yeah Ig fel dev

waxen frigate
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Once it’s applied it just gets refreshed with bok/SCK through ChP

strong forum
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Is also brontalle

waxen frigate
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Unless you’re playing dfb

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And even then it’s a Lower % than warr frontals

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Not as bad as last tier for warr though imo

strong forum
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Yeah

waxen frigate
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In terms of frontal reliance

grizzled nova
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Bear is generally the only outlier in a discussion about whether it generally matters if something is behind you for protracted periods of time

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and even then, you still don't want things behind you

strong forum
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It's not about it being okay for stuff being behind you or not

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It's the degree of importance

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And matter of fact still remains that it's alot more relevant on shield tanks than others

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That's inarguable

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Hell monks often purposefully turn around

median tulip
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I remember they did that on Mueh'zela

strong forum
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They still do that on brh 3rd boss

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They can solo every charge

median tulip
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H4X

median tulip
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I don't know much about Brew any more. My guild doesn't have one, I obviously don't party with them on main, and on my healer I haven't seen one all season

waxen frigate
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We do a little force dodge and/or niuzao cheese (pray that it doesn’t become a thing again)

grizzled nova
# strong forum That's inarguable

It's a silly argument. All the tanks are dependent on things being in front of them for their dr and damage, all of them behave in exactly the same way to group things in front of them. Pwar has no additional 'strain' here other tham their healthbar potentially moving more than others if they do get hit in the back.

waxen frigate
#

Yeah except pwarr is much more prone to it being moved instantly to 0

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Lol

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Since all you have then is armor

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No stagger, no brand/soulcrusher, no bone shield/purg, no consecrate, no whatever bear does

median tulip
#

The main point is that unlike the other tanks we find it comparatively more difficult to recover from being hit in the back/without our main mitigation because as the primary mitigation tank recovery is harder for us

waxen frigate
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Well said

median tulip
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At least recovery on our own terms, without external assistance

waxen frigate
#

Also true. Warr can’t just full heal itself in a global like most tanks

median tulip
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We die slow. But we will die.

waxen frigate
grizzled nova
#

in which case all the tanks go to 0

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this hypothetical is absurd

lusty grotto
#

their point is other tanks have safety nets

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we do not

uneven mason
#

I love having these discussions with people and being like "this isn't even my final form" *presses defensive stance

lusty grotto
#

i guess the safety net is being in dstance

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if anything

uneven mason
#

It's a proactive one

waxen frigate
#

Dstance is honestly a very poggers button

uneven mason
#

And not spending demo shout offensively

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Swapping to IO

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Etc

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Like

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We're tanky in our offensive build

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And we can become even tankier

lusty grotto
#

can you mention which other tank has a positional requirement for the AMs?

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SotR comes to mind

uneven mason
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Sotr is armor

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So no

lusty grotto
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not that there are AM checks, but thats beside the point

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ah true

uneven mason
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But you can't dodge/parry attacks from behind

waxen frigate
#

Look

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I know a thing or two about taking backshots

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Just ask @lusty tiger

uneven mason
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So, all tanks do, but ours is more noticable because we're the block tank, so we just get chunked from the back

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Since that's basically half our mitigation

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Meanwhile another tank just recovers from the mistake

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Or has cheat death go off, NGL eating 2 soaks on smokderon on my bdk and being able to just recover with 2 death strikes

weary saddle
#

Pwar just requires a different muscle memory how to press WASD

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
#

😜

lusty grotto
#

it all boils down to that

uneven mason
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Like bear and monk don't give a fuck about positioning

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Since their mitigation and recovery are not heavily tied to dodge

honest vale
waxen frigate
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But not like pwarr

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And block

uneven mason
#

Bruh any tank on tyr oakheart

honest vale
#

I love that I reply to someone literally referencing the breath in their name. 🤣

uneven mason
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Just saying

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Since he doesn't melee during the cast

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Also bear can stack a literal fuckton of DR on every breath

honest vale
#

I don't play Bear, but that's some gigachad movement right there.

uneven mason
#

If you want to go full "I can't die" on bear you can have 20% passive Dr, rots 25% and 30% barkskin plus whatever mit your set bonus absorb has

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On every breath/grip

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Bear don't care

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Oh right 6% from base vers as well

median tulip
#

When I play my Priest, on gigapulls I just put Guardian Spirit on the bear and let them get on with it

honest vale
#

I leap every breath and rotate my DR on Grip. I can't be wasting any of that precious DR on Breath. ;_;

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Grip is just wild. 🤣

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Did you change your name because it's a common question in here? "How I deal with Nightmare Breath on Oakheart?" #1 question on Google. 😏

strong forum
#

it applies to both dangerous breath attacks in m+

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deios and oakheart

honest vale
#

Wow. I never thought about leaping Deios' breath.

vocal flame
#

Always leap in the direction of your dps xan

strong forum
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the dh tank decided its a good idea to jump at an angle

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and sniped both a dps and the healer

blazing condor
#

death roulette is a sacred tradition in this household

strong forum
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still timed the key tho

honest vale
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They didn't pop a personal? 4Head

blazing condor
#

i do it because i wanna test which ones of my premades are unlucky - so i know to avoid them. I don't want to run keys with unlucky people

median tulip
#

The other two breath attacks in the current rotation (Iridikron and Dresaron) are ofc side-steppable.

opaque quest
honest vale
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How did we handle the earthquake on Dresaron after his roar in Legion? I thought we baited that somehow in keys to keep the room clean, but I don't remember.

blazing condor
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you can

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so far hasnt been necessary for me

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u just kinda play the room and move is absolutely needed

honest vale
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Maybe it was people just clumped up to drop in 1 spot, but I didn't think that was the move in Legion. I thought it was something else.

sick sentinel
median tulip
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I've had relatively few problems with Dresaron, mostly I think because his HP doesn't seem particularly extreme

sick sentinel
#

okay here

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i failed to leap the breath

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but how, and now we have a visual aid of failing attempting to doit

median tulip
#

Oh I suppose there's breath attacks on Blight as well, but that works differently

honest vale
#

I mean, we should probably be playing the edge of the room. Basically parallel with the eggs, get pushed back toward the middle of the room, bait the earthquake along the edges, and sidestep breath.

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I don't run VERY high keys, so I don't think even Tyr roar is a 1-shot.

median tulip
#

Most casters seem to enjoy baiting the earthquake into the centre of the room

honest vale
#

I mean, they can clump them there too. Shouldn't ever really interfere with patrolling the edge of the room. I'm going to try it next time I'm in DHT.

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That clump of 4 bats in the last hallway are the bane of my existence. It's like get threat and run away (specifically if you don't have a dispel for it).

median tulip
#

The best thing about Darkheart Thicket is the comedy value of watching Demon Hunters trying to use Fel Rush on Xavius

honest vale
#

Dude, the swirlies on Xavius are nuts. I still don't understand how they haven't fixed those. 🤣

median tulip
#

It's the silence effect that screws DH over

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They Fel Rush and get silenced

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Over and over and over

honest vale
#

🤣

vocal flame
honest vale
#

Do you still execute the leap on Deios P1?

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P2 is pretty chill, it's P1 that's the spooky part.

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It's just the keepers he summons, just spam you constantly for ridiculous damage.

strong forum
#

the legendary is broken

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i literally got the legendary and im instantly farming 99s/100 logs as arms in keys

uneven mason
#

It's what a 11% increase?

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Imagine critcake getting a Lego, critcake

ivory peak
#

hi guys! hope you all ok!

anyone knows how to do a WA for ignore pain to make a sound when its shield is already absorbed?? like i have the buff, and when the buff is over because de heal absorption is depleted the buff will be off, so like WA that triggers sound when the buff is off,

strong forum
#

i didnt even do 300k in BRH without aug

uneven mason
lusty grotto
uneven mason
#

You shouldn't really track IP as it's just a side effect of proper gameplay, you dump rage into it to avoid capping or deal with dot damage

lusty grotto
#

SB is

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you shouldnt track IP

uneven mason
#

What you could track is the set bonus

strong forum
ivory peak
#

i just spend rage on IP?

uneven mason
#

Basically

median tulip
strong forum
#

most of your rage goes into IP

uneven mason
#

Since we're pressing TC far more this tier you'll have less GCD to burn rage on revenge

ivory peak
#

kk ty all!!! ill do thta

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that

median tulip
#

The actually important things to track on Weakauras are Shield Block, Avatar Cooldown, and Thunderous Roar

#

Maybe Outburst, Shield Wall

uneven mason
#

Basically prioritize rage into SB then IP, revenge is used to fish for SS resets if dev and TC fail to reset it, because we press rev less it will frequently be free when we do press it, so yeah, easily 90% of your rage will go into IP

uneven mason
#

Don't wanna eat that on tc

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Big ole 300k SS

#

So my raids bdk was out and the RL brought in a brm, rather than have me tank...

Apparently I rip aggro too much for their comfort sadge

ivory peak
#

so the macro of SS and IP is the way to go right? when i have a proc of free SS I do the marco with IP right=

#

?

strong forum
#

no, you just use that macro as your regular IP keybind

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whenever you wanna press IP and SS happens to be ready or comes off CD via a proc whilst youre attempting to press it, itll automatically snipe said CD

#

and since you always want to prioritise shield slam

#

its just a very good and disgustingly simple macro

median tulip
#

Like Nome says, it's a proc sniping tool.

Mostly that macro exists to limit how badly your RSI will be procced playing Prot Warrior

ivory peak
ivory peak
#

thanks for the help guys

median tulip
#

I macro Shield Slam into all my off-GCD abilities. Shield Block, Ignore Pain, Avatar, Shield Wall.

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I also macro my racial into Avatar

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(I'm not a Dorf)

lusty grotto
#

pls no memes

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😢

sick sentinel
#

i liked my time as human as well

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get out of stun op

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even if stun = bad always these days

devout basalt
#

There is no human. Only dorf Avatar

median tulip
#

I'm an Orc

blazing condor
#

i dont remember can we sim to see IF a crafted piece would be an upgrade

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like sim a hypothetical craft

vocal nimbus
#

im undeda

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you can with gear compare

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find the name of the crafted item

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and create a gear set with that item included

blazing condor
#

oh yeah i just found it

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thanks

sick sentinel
#

why paladins run throne

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i saw a group of 3 rets just and now im in a group with 2 rets

hardy snow
#

ngl, 200k+ dps in dung is quite cool deswind

torn gulch
#

welcome to bolstering

sick sentinel
#

nah, me and the crew i played with

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with played with 8.0 bolstering

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it was horrendous

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permanent bolster and basically all mobs including non elites and i think even like battle pets would give a target bolster

torn gulch
#

that picture is from then

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bfa underrot

sick sentinel
#

that version of bolster was a giga filter for pugs

median tulip
sick sentinel
#

meant you couldnt afford to ass pull mobs or have hunter pets pull mobs

#

no shield charge, no big taunt, no spell block, but thunder clap do dmg

blazing condor
sick sentinel
#

the PANIK that ensues any time howliss fears doenst get kicked

#

that boss was a huge pain in the ass

winter shard
#

hey guys, I did a rise last night and had some trouble on Morchie. I attempted to get the sand puddle right next to me and got stunned as our paladin took it. Is it better to leap out to a far sand puddle than look for one close if melee is in party?

lusty grotto
#

if you got stunned, you activated the trap

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that boss aint hard, you can use storm bolt on your add, and then fear

winter shard
#

I see, thank you

lusty grotto
#

dont panic at add

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you can take your time

#

the biggest thing there is not nuking people with the frontal

winter shard
#

I'm 2 days into tanking after dpsing for 18 yrs so I'm really learning on the fly

#

Chrono lord is really my worst fight I get very flustered there

warm plinth
#

I like to pull next to a group of traps early while keeping an eye out for sand blast timer

blazing condor
#

you have time before the ads spawn to position boss so that ads will run easily onto puddles

warm plinth
#

So when my add spawns I'm in a good spot to put er in the trap

winter shard
#

I was attempting to do that then I get all fucked up

lusty grotto
#

well trapping all adds at the same time is also bad

#

so the more you can stagger traps the better

#

your stuns and fear are your friends

#

so is hamstring

winter shard
#

Any general tips for Chrono lord? I get really chunked there

lusty grotto
#

we should really have a faq/pin for these questions lol

warm plinth
#

Leap breath when feasible, otherwise rotate defensive cooldowns.

winter shard
#

spell reflect and block should be rotated for the breath right?

gilded juniper
#

Recently started tanking mythic + and i feel like i’m maybe trying to do too many dps mechanics, like killing totems and stuff, meaning i move the boss around way too much

#

Also that tree in darkheart, people dont want to kill the adds, then i’m running around trying to gather them all up which leads to the boss breathing on the party

warm plinth
#

Killing the roots is unrealistic. Just need to be ready to pick them up as best you can

blazing condor
#

i cant remember - is there any fundamental difference between recraft and crafting from scratch? if i ask a crafter to just recraft my old thing its still gonna be the same % and stuff?

#

logically i think no but you never know

lusty grotto
#

its the same

#

no reason to craft it, when you can recraft it

#

less mats with recraft

blazing condor
#

yeah

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just wondered cus nobody wanted to recraft my shit

lusty grotto
#

shouldn't matter

#

probably just few crafters online or something

blazing condor
#

yeah probably

#

those who were online could offer me a 100% 486 proc for a measly 60k

torn gulch
#

they sell their own mettle for loads

#

that is why

#

60k is absurd though for craft+mettle orb

lusty grotto
#

jesus christ EU is fucked

#

60k?

#

its 5k in NA

blazing condor
#

or 12k for 40% proc

#

free recrafts though okayge

torn gulch
#

they don't sell 100% chance for 5k

#

hard to believe

#

you have to be a moron to sell your own mettle that cheap

blazing condor
#

well

torn gulch
#

when you barely get any every week

blazing condor
#

its NA ppl ur talking about

lusty grotto
#

i mean i have chars in a high pop server and low pop servers

#

in NA

blazing condor
#

the 1/3 burger failed cus they thought a quarter pounder was bigger

lusty grotto
#

they are both 5k for mettle

torn gulch
#

fair enough

#

i find it way too low in my opinion

lusty grotto
#

i dont

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i do mine at 5k

grizzled nova
torn gulch
#

in my guild i do 3k per orb and 10k on global

lusty grotto
#

except for LW, i have basically every tradeskill capped on different toons

#

i do 5k

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fuck charging 60k thats fucking absurd

torn gulch
#

yea 60k is ridiculous

#

60k was a week 1 season 1

blazing condor
#

im also on tarren mill lol

grizzled nova
#

on massive pop servers there's a lot of competition, you'll always find someone who'll hit it with mettle for 5k

blazing condor
#

thats what i tried

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aint nobody wanted me

torn gulch
#

not on eu

lusty grotto
#

yeah thats why i said EU is fucked

torn gulch
#

i do 10k and i am probably one of the cheapest

#

but i am lucky to have an enormous backlog of mettle

#

because of loads of dragon shards

#

at the moment i have 7.6k

grizzled nova
#

even most of the day you'd be able to find max rank crafters spamming trade willing to craft/recraft for whatever tips

#

eu friends are vicious capitalists sounds like

blazing condor
#

i spent 20 mins in that trade chat today

#

there was nothing below 10k

#

where 10k was like 44% proc

torn gulch
#

if i was on tarren mill i would've crafted for you

blazing condor
#

i dont mind paying 10k for a craft but then id want it guaranteed

torn gulch
#

on reasonable prices

blazing condor
torn gulch
#

i do 10k for 100% and 5k for gambol proc

broken kite
#

I do 5+mats, 100% r5

#

1 in 10 say no too expensive

torn gulch
#

well peeps want for free

#

i tell them gl

#

find a cheaper guy

broken kite
#

Pretty much, no bother to me

pale karma
#

What’s driving the underlying cost for people to ask for/offer so much gold on 486 crafts? Is it scalping or legit?

#

(I don’t fully understand what it’s going towards other than the crafters time and minor inconvenience of flying to the other side of Valk)

lusty grotto
#

time

#

mettle costs time

#

either way it doesnt matter, 60k is ridiculous

#

but also anything under 5k is also ridiculous

pale karma
#

Yes the highest I’ve seen anyone offer in trade on Frostmourne was 25k and that’s insane.

lusty grotto
#

well as far as offers go

#

it depends

#

if its a hard to get recipe and the person has been looking for days

pale karma
#

From my perspective anyway. I know lots of people are running around on longbois but I’ve got a small pool of gold.

lusty grotto
#

i cant say when it comes to offers

#

but those are 2 big factors

pale karma
lusty grotto
#

like i wouldnt offer anything more than what the crafter is charging

toxic pewter
#

killed mythic gnarlroot no shield dropped tho feelsdbadman

hardy snow
toxic pewter
#

dang

#

wish i could be in a mythic raiding guild

silk sandal
#

People charging 60k? How do I get into that market lmao

#

I offer it for free with tips if you want and barely get any biters lol

lavish oracle
#

is the signet brand damage anything to worry about?

lusty grotto
#

nope

lavish oracle
#

sick

lusty grotto
#

no self inflicted damage by whatever is anything to worry about

#

be it trinket, weapons, embelishments etc

hazy bronze
#

Fall damage can be

zenith horizon
#

is augury good trinket for prot war

#

in terms of damage options, obviosly other trinket will be the cheat death

lusty grotto
#

why obviously

#

does cheat proc often for you that you absolutely need it?

#

because if it isnt, youre pretty much wearing nothing there

zenith horizon
#

i mean not that often but like

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i like the insurance

lusty grotto
#

so you have a dead slot

zenith horizon
#

tyrannical i always wear it

lusty grotto
#

augury is fine

zenith horizon
#

fortified is hit or miss

lusty grotto
#

cheat well, i guess youre wearing a STR stat stick

#

nothing more nothing less

opaque quest
#

Interesting. For me its the other way around. Tyrannical i use dps for fortified i always run cheat

#

Or ran

toxic pewter
#

yeah fort cheat death trinket gets a lot more value

#

based on my own personal deaths

lyric flume
#

New to tank, how do i group the mob together in m+

#

especially the caster/range one

cinder nova
#

critcake Holy fuck Smold prog is gonna be...

#

A thing.

cinder nova
lyric flume
#

AoE kick?

#

like shockwave?

toxic pewter
#

some people play disrupting shout

lyric flume
#

Ahhh i see it now

#

thank you

cinder nova
#

Ideally you rely on your ranged (and comm them to do so) to kick creatures in

#

Or displace them inwards with stuff like typhoon, grip, RoP, etc.

uneven mason
#

just had to 4 man Deios

#

on a 21

#

🤢

lyric flume
#

Currently pugging doing low keys, so that is not possible xD

cinder nova
#

It's fort week

#

not that bad on fort tbh

uneven mason
#

yeah but still

cinder nova
#

4-man on a tyr would be fucking horrific

uneven mason
#

I got a heroic gorehowl for my efforts

cinder nova
#

Nice.

uneven mason
#

guess I can undelete my fury spec now

toxic pewter
#

gross

cinder nova
#

I still don't know why they haven't let us at least mog 2hers

#

on 1hers

jagged gust
#

Also there are some badass 1hers I wanna use for my fury mog set

cinder nova
#

Honestly.

#

I kinda wanna chadfist a gorehowl or something.

opaque quest
#

I want double thunderfury as fury

forest yacht
#

Is there like a cheat sheet or things I should be spell reflecting or using spell block on

#

I get almost no value from spell block at the moment

lusty grotto
#

in the pins

bleak breach
forest yacht
#

Oh no I did the discord thing

#

The shame

plush nymph
#

Does anyone know DR on secondary stats? have 6k haste and don't know if that is WAY too much

pallid quiver
#

Look a few messages up at someone's name

#

That being said, sim your stats if you're ever concerned

forest yacht
#

Haste cap is whenever you get bored of farming for haste gear

#

(Never)

wanton mantle
#

today i saw a blood dk with 1.3kk health and a bear with 1.8kk Whats the average health of a decently geared prot warr?, im curious

boreal heath
lyric moth
median tulip
civic torrent
#

What an odd way to type 1.3m

ionic fern
#

Agreed.

#

But they used it, so i just went with it.

civic torrent
#

I respect it

lament shell
#

guys is it true that the greater essence is unique ? and can be used only once a week

surreal birch
lament shell
#

i got 3 this week

#

i did lfr normal then heroic

surreal birch
#

Oh ye you can use however many you get

#

It's basically tied to loot-lock and that's it, same goes for the smaller ones, however many you get, that many you can use

lament shell
#

someone said its not worth cuz you can only use greater essence once a week

#

so thats fake

#

right?

#

ofc you can use it multiple times but it only works once

surreal birch
#

iirc if you get f.e. Fyrak HC, you get "combined" one, so you don't get them from lower diff, but you get the same buff

lament shell
#

really?

#

do you have source for this?

surreal birch
#

I think that was a comment on how the system will work, blue post or just some video, can't really tell now from where it was, but let me just pug normal to see if I get LFR after that

lament shell
#

you need to start with the lowest difficult first

#

thats how i got 3 greater essences this week

surreal birch
#
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It's the same as with Evoker lego, if you kill him on HC you get the chances from LFR + NM + HC

lament shell
#

thanks i see now

marble ingot
#

does the atal dazar bleed gets consumed from t set?

ionic fern
#

No.

warm plinth
#

Blizz tooltips are so bad historically that people don't even read them anymore keks

tawdry dirge
#

anyone know how far the fyrrak trinket works

#

only says nearby

warm plinth
#

When a tooltip says "nearby", it's almost always 8 yards

tawdry dirge
#

cheers bud

ionic fern
#

I imagine this is what Sense and his teammates are in the PTR Mythic dungeon when figuring out what is blockable/reflectable and what not.

warm plinth
#

lol

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

@ionic fern speaking of things you can't spell reflect, guess what you can't spell reflect that was COMPLETELY unexpected to me

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

You know when you go left at the start of BRH and you fight the miniboss dude? His spirit blast or w/e is not reflectable yep

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

Makes 0 sense to me

#

why that wouldn't be reflectable

ionic fern
#

We're warriors, nothing makes sense with our mitigation.

warm plinth
#

Fortunately it rarely matters for me because I always go to the right there

onyx pike
#

What crafted Items are you guys using currently? Is lariet still viable?

warm plinth
#

wrist/cloak w/ shadowflame

#

We haven't used Lariat since S1

onyx pike
#

I haven't played since S1, so i have it laying around

warm plinth
#

makes sense!

onyx pike
#

Got the shield crafted w shadowflame

#

but that was 3 weeks ago, so I could swap.

#

Got the raid one w crit/haste in my inventory

warm plinth
#

2x shadowflame is what we want. Eventually you'll want it on wrist/cloak since you can get away w/ not replacing them

#

since they're low stat budget items

onyx pike
#

so I can keep the shield you say?

ionic fern
#

Jep.

onyx pike
#

Phew. thought I F'd up with it

warm plinth
#

we like shields hmmNod

#

Also I'm now weirded out that I'm talking to you in 2 servers at the same time.

onyx pike
#

I crafted it with Vers/haste because Icyvein said its our main stat tho :kekw:

warm plinth
#

Well, as my nickname would say...

#

@warm plinth

onyx pike
ionic fern
warm plinth
#

idk it looks fine to me

ionic fern
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As long as it's a combination of haste/crit or Haste/Vers you're fine.

warm plinth
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I'm not a cheat death trinket person but that's the only thing I'm like meh about

onyx pike
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It was Haste, vers, crit when I looked it up. but no biggie

onyx pike
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especially this week :kekw

warm plinth
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Well

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Llarold should have probably put them both on the same line

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But he does specify that the difference is miniscule

onyx pike
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I have so many trinkets laying around

warm plinth
onyx pike
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What are you using?

ionic fern
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Don't bully my cheat death Ghash.

warm plinth
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I had that trinket in my vault this week and I took 4 tokens instead

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That's how anti-cheat death trinket I am

onyx pike
ionic fern
warm plinth
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I am using trash because prot isn't my main

ionic fern
ionic fern
warm plinth
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I play 5 different toons and my BM hunter kinda ended up my main this season so I'm behind

ionic fern
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Though, each time i see it proc i know WHAT procced it and how to avoid it next time.

warm plinth
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I think I'm using 441 sandglass and 441 vial from last season keks

onyx pike
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SUS

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xD

warm plinth
onyx pike
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I'm ok with warrior atm honestly

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It just feels like groups dick ride the meta

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and I get declined alot

warm plinth
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All the tank specs are pretty well balanced right now

onyx pike
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they rather wait 20 mins for a dh than take warrior

warm plinth
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Yeah, tale as old as time sadly

onyx pike
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S3 feels especially good for Spellreflect

brave jetty
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does the pattern on tindral mushroom spawn change in p3?

onyx pike
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ye but this season it feels BRUTAL. they don't know subcreation just goes by % stats and not actually strenght of the class

brave jetty
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like it aint 1 and then 3 directly opposite?

ionic fern
warm plinth
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In the highest level of keys, vdh isn't even really cemented as meta right now

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Hell the world first 30 this season had a paladin tank, and so do a lot of other high keys

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Every tank is represented in the top ~150 runs

ionic fern
warm plinth
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Oh I was looking at top 25 keys, not players

ionic fern
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Ah, okay.

warm plinth
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well, top 150 keys w/e

woven torrent
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Pikawar the 🐐

ionic fern
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Getting into +25's /26's as warrior is a pain tho.

onyx pike
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subcreations tier list is just missleading imo

ionic fern
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Any tier list is misleading.

onyx pike
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give a wrong picture

ionic fern
warm plinth
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Me looking for Mwahi on this list

onyx pike
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I like Dorki's

warm plinth
ionic fern
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Cause my warriors name ain't Mwahi.

woven torrent
warm plinth
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Well

woven torrent
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speaking as i play both a mage and prot war

onyx pike
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and pala is just half a healer on top for the group to deal with high dmg

warm plinth
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There's always safe picks for weekly key pugs

woven torrent
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like the pull all mobs into silence is insane

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for dungeons like waycrest and everbloom

onyx pike
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double sigils is insane

warm plinth
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VDH and ppal are both insanely strong tanks for your weekly keys because they can handle so much bullshit on their own

onyx pike
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for silence and chain

woven torrent
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why did the leap pull mobs get removed from testing

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then vdh gets this shit

warm plinth
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idk that talent was kinda whack anyway

woven torrent
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I only heard about it but it sounded nice

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dont know if we had to drop smth for it or etc

warm plinth
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The builds the top DHs are running are fucking weird tbh

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They lose so much damage just to take last resort and chains

ionic fern
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I like chains. 😦

warm plinth
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what do you give up for it though?

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like if you were just going for chains, not LR

wild jasper
ionic fern
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I just like chains.

blazing condor
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will we ever really replace a crafted 486 ring with a myth track one that doesnt have a socket, considering the 486 has more stats (besides stam)

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or is the stamina gain from the 489 significant enough to warrant a switch

trim bay
onyx pike
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Is Dwarf still the mvp race for m+? Why not dark iron?

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main stat seems nicer. (coming from an orc)

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2nd most played is orc anyway so i should be fine

warm plinth
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You're using dwarf for the debuff removal, not the DR/main stat so the value of either of those effects is minimal. Dwarf is generally preferred because they actually get a passive damage increase (2% crit damage) while DID gets no damage.

plush sorrel
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quick question, is there a sweetspot or cap for haste?

blazing condor
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@lusty grotto

timber nest
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Holy fick mythic larodar is dead. What a shit show of a fight for prot

blazing condor
light dune
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head enchant did 3.4% of my damage on 21 atal dazar

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poggies

mortal dagger
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@lament musk how ya doin bud?

lament musk
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great kabanmister hope you're good too

lusty grotto
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morning

warm plinth
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Morning my friend

lusty grotto
vocal flame
dusky canopy
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Morning! Happy Friday deswind

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6/9m gamer as of last night

vocal flame
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Good Morning All! Happy Friday

blazing condor
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👋

light dune
blazing condor
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they playin the computer game

dusky canopy
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Hellll yeah boys

blazing condor
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honestly im sure smolderon is fun asf to prog on

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any boss that is like sludgefist is pog

dusky canopy
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We pulled it for the last 10 minutes of raid just to make sure everyone’s WAs were working before next week and died to the first orb set over and over and over..

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Lmao

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Going to be a fun one

blazing condor
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then u got tindral

dusky canopy
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Gotta get over the first wall but yee

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Last 3 are large jumps in difficulty

harsh trellis
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Working on Volcoross mythic and I was getting worked last night. Should we take 4 stacks instead of 8 of volcanic for each tank and then swap for jaws?

dusky canopy
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Huh?

devout star
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Anyone got tips for smolderon I’m tanking on warrior and dps are dying every intermission phase (when he kneels down) I’m throwing rallying cries every time don’t know how ppl are dying

dusky canopy
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Oh right I’m in Prot channel

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Nvm

blazing condor
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well if ppl die in intermission they either get hit by fire or cant live the ticking damage

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and smolderon get buffed if ppl dont collect their orbs

harsh trellis
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thats the dps phase

blazing condor
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yeah not much you can do

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ppl have to collect their orbs and dodge