protection

[uneven mason]

I literally had anvil until yesterday when I got my reazan in the vault, was a spicy 7% of my st damage

[ashen coral]

For the p2 of fyrakka, is it better to be stacked or splitted to kill adds in heroic ?

Assuming the tank is not a dk who can grabs ?

[lyric heart]

its there a weak aura for 2 set ?

[lusty grotto]

you stack them at the start of their spawn

then you split them as the spirits move through middle

there's not a set position

[lusty grotto]

check #268491842637660160

[uneven mason]

We have slappyhands dks go to the sides

[surreal thunder]

5400 haste is a good time to take into the fray over heavy repercussions right?

[uneven mason]

It does gain value yes

Aslong as you're proactive with your SB uptime

Without bolster this tier it takes more than 5 braincells to reach 95% blocked hits

Like 8-11 braincells at least

[surreal thunder]

shit, i only got 7 😭

[uneven mason]

Heavy repercussions for you my friend

[toxic pewter]

nose for trouble still pretty strong in m+ I tell ya

[left basalt]

running AD 18s for days, please rng gods help me

[surreal thunder]

😄

was from a darkheart haha

[uneven mason]

I vaulted my rezan

Jealous?

[left basalt]

i got a hourglass, but i want another hero trinket

[uneven mason]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[toxic pewter]

go kill fyrakk

and get augury

[left basalt]

swapping to prot loot spec for fyrakk to yoink the trinket

[uneven mason]

Floorspec dh got sandglass in my last run

[left basalt]

tanks gonna be big mad

[toxic pewter]

u want heart over augury?

[left basalt]

its not a matter of want

but i have like 15+ to roll agasinst for 1

or only 2 others

[toxic pewter]

smh

[uneven mason]

Going to troll the tanks

[left basalt]

they wont let me tank

[uneven mason]

That'll show em

[left basalt]

the dk thats wearing the 411 drogbar is the tank

[toxic pewter]

is this a pug

[uneven mason]

But it's a bdk

[left basalt]

no just a raid logging guild

[uneven mason]

Literally how the shit do they have 411

[nocturne vine]

Still dont understand if u find the gift of ursine as a good trinket

[left basalt]

no one does m+ it seems

[toxic pewter]

u gonna roll on tank trinket in a guild run?

[left basalt]

yup

[uneven mason]

You can buy 450 shit on the ah

[toxic pewter]

fair enough i guess

[uneven mason]

If it's not bugged it's great

[lusty grotto]

its not bugged

[left basalt]

if i can't get m+ rezans before then (hero)

[uneven mason]

It's good for damage and defense

[lusty grotto]

they fixed it

[toxic pewter]

lol watch the new fyrakk loot meta all the dps switch to tank lootspec for heart to better their chances on a trinket and then tank wins augury

[uneven mason]

Can't win if you don't roll

Lost the ursine trinket to a ret paladin last night that never tanks

[left basalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-hawkeye-raining-shake-my-head-gif-20385587

[toxic pewter]

*when the bdk says they will take the boss first.. *LOL

[woven torrent]

is the difference in gear that high between 470 and 480?

i tried a 24 dht this week and i got literally one shot by accidentally getting the breat on 2nd boss

with full ip

but im watching a tattman vid and he's tanking the breath

altho with spell reflect on

[toxic pewter]

the difference is about 10 ilvls or so

[woven torrent]

i wonder if other tank classes have it as hard as us

on bosses like that

for example the throw too

[toxic pewter]

?

I am very powerful myself

I know a lot of people are leaping away from the breath

[lusty grotto]

youre looking at this wrong way

a 24 is 40% more damage and health on mobs including bosses

40% more damage than a 20

[strong forum]

maybe will spellblock up aswell

[lusty grotto]

tyrannical also factors in

[strong forum]

they buffed the nightmare breath frontal aswell, dunno how long ago tho

[woven torrent]

like i think at one point i'd eventually run out of defensives to rotate between grips no?

since the boss lives so much

[strong forum]

you leap the breath

and outrange it

[lusty grotto]

its tyrannical

[woven torrent]

ye im talking strictly about grip

[strong forum]

sw -> healer external -> sw -> healer external

[woven torrent]

also leap was on 9s last time i was trying to run away from it

[strong forum]

you can also save your demo shout

for every 2nd grip

and have impending victory for every grip

[toxic pewter]

ngl I find disc priest pretty nice on that boss for the pain suppressions

[strong forum]

pool some rage

[woven torrent]

yea i shouldve maybe communicated with the healer

i had a resto druid because we needed cr

[strong forum]

thats the best healer

[plush tendon]

our guild tank likes to have the adds spawn so he gets more rage on Oakface

dont know how viable of a strat that is...

but that tree guy feels like this season's version of Temple lady

[lusty grotto]

🤷

[toxic pewter]

resto druid also has their external that is great also

[plush tendon]

BDK can pre AMS every other grip and they take 0 damage

boss kind of a joke for them

[lusty grotto]

all tanks except bdk pretty much struggle on that boss if they arent cycling defensives correctly

[strong forum]

that boss is a joke when your healer actually knows whats up

[plush tendon]

cant trust those pesky healers

[toxic pewter]

so is every boss for bdk right now, even mythic fyrakk tanked 85% by bdk and pugs literally solo tanking with bdk for heroic fyrakk right now

[plush tendon]

pretty much

[lusty grotto]

idk why people say that

[plush tendon]

BDK on bosses

BDK on high Fort trash that melees hard and fast

[woven torrent]

the higher i go in keys the more i feel like my skill level is not enough for prot warrior

[lusty grotto]

there were billions of fyraak groups yesterday with 2 tanks

[plush tendon]

[woven torrent]

😔

[lusty grotto]

the fuck are you guys seeing these 1 bdk solo tank groups

[toxic pewter]

yah most groups doing 2 tank

i saw it on twitch

lmao

[lusty grotto]

...

[woven torrent]

on eu i literally havent found a 2 tank group for the past 3-4 days before reset

[toxic pewter]

it was a pug tho

[plush tendon]

my co-tank lets me solo most of heroic ❤️

[lusty grotto]

must be an EU thing then

[woven torrent]

there's that streamer

wottodoo

that basically does the solo strat

and i think everyone is trying to copy him now..

[lusty grotto]

whoever that is

[woven torrent]

he's just getting everyone of his viewers curve

he killed fyrakk 100 times already 💀

[lusty grotto]

oh hes one of those

[woven torrent]

so yea its lowkey annoying i either start my group or try to apply as dps

and then they see all my rio is on tank and decline

[lusty grotto]

i mean its a raid

tanks barely get invites in raid unless you have the kills, and that's not saying much

2 slots max

learn to dps

you wanna go fast, you gotta learn to dps

[woven torrent]

well warr fury used to be one of my mains but i hate the new playstyle

i can dps but i just wanna learn tanking this patch

since i've never done it before

[lusty grotto]

🤷

well youre gonna struggle

getting into raid pugs as tank is hard

[pallid quiver]

DPS lets you generally have more control over whether an encounter succeeds or not, anyhow

[lusty grotto]

anything raid related really

[woven torrent]

oh yeah while at it, do u guys reset at 30 stacks on tyrannical on WM tree boss?

[plush tendon]

the real issue here is that you chose fury when arms is the objectively cooler spec

[woven torrent]

hey one has two swords instead of one

you tell me which is cooler then 😎

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/garrosh-orgrimmar-walking-warcraft-gif-16112512

as you can see, Garrosh has 1 2h

[pallid quiver]

the one that won't bonk itself in the face when its swords get stuck on each other

dual-wielding was done in real life, dual wielding was not done particularly often with extremely long swords

[woven torrent]

so uhh any opinions on this?

gonna try a 23

[plush tendon]

I actually have no idea when you should be looking to clear or if there is a good stack number to clear at

spent too much time the past weeks just holding till like 50+ stacks and hoping boss dies XD

[lusty grotto]

i didnt reset at all last week

[plush tendon]

my basic understanding is dont clear during thorns

or right before thorns

[lusty grotto]

but ill get back to you as soon as i run one this week

i aint no bitch though

[plush tendon]

I havnt reset myself on any of my tanks

just power through

but I havnt done a WM above like a 23 and none Tyran

[limpid ruin]

If you aren’t going to hold you want to reset around 25-30. I’ve cleared at 70 stacks and it 2 ticked everyone else

Very funny, probably not recommended

[jagged pier]

u ither dont clear or clear 25-30

[uneven mason]

Since we can block everything he does just face tank him

[plush tendon]

thanks Stoat King; so smart

[lusty grotto]

augusto are you trying to get free dkp or something

i know ass kissing when i see it

👀

[toxic pewter]

some guy just got legendary in this heroic fyrakk pug i did

[uneven mason]

Looking at the writeup on the Lego, idk if it's worth the price

5% extra damage is nice I guess

But losing your normal rotation for the channel is sus

[toxic pewter]

wait is it only 5%

oof

i want it for the mog tbh lmao

just to have

[uneven mason]

Yeah basically the same as you would see from a epic at 500ilvl

[toxic pewter]

for the collection

the ilvl increase is nice too tho

[uneven mason]

And you can't interrupt the channel, you're basically stunned

Hope you don't get targeted by anything

[toxic pewter]

dang

can bdk deathstrike or wat

during this channel or whatever

[uneven mason]

It's certainly not on par with shadowmourn

[uneven mason]

Nope!

[toxic pewter]

seems dangerous lmao

[uneven mason]

You can parry still

But yeah no rotation abilities

Really tanks it's value

So they'd only use it during drw

[plush tendon]

Im his biggest fan!

[mild jolt]

unsure what to ditch. Got the Fyrak Def trinket on 470, currently using the eggshells and the trinket from RH (haste, ST dmg proc). Keep the ST proc with haste?

both others at 467

[uneven mason]

Drop eggshells

[plush tendon]

for Blood you wouldnt want to use during DRW since then you lose 3 seconds of actually pressing abilities during DRW

[toxic pewter]

still unholy dk got it and he did 128k dps on heroic fyrakk, i tanked and did 120k dps lmao

[uneven mason]

Drop eggshells in the darkest deepest hole you can find

[toxic pewter]

this guy did 8k more than me and got it

thats just rude

[mild jolt]

are they rly that bad, thought the haste buff is atleast somewhat usefull, besides i didnt got other trinkets anyway

[uneven mason]

Eggshell is top 3 worst trinkets ever created

[mild jolt]

xD

[plush tendon]

there is gonna be a meme of BDK poppin lego wep and insta dying or popping purg in M+

[toxic pewter]

i hope so

[uneven mason]

Can't wait

[toxic pewter]

need a compilation video asap of that happening

[urban bane]

i'll watch the tiktok compilations of this 'til the world ends

same brain lol

[surreal birch]

Is there anything like too much haste for prots?

[toxic pewter]

@lusty grotto

[uneven mason]

Read the trinket, it proces after you take damage

An absorb, that triggers after you get hit

That is only like 7000 hps iirc

That like pressing shield wall after the tank buster hits you

Anything from last season beats it at 40ilvl less

[toxic pewter]

i wanted to be the first Vulpera world wide to get legendary

feelsbadman

[uneven mason]

When you hit plaid levels of it

[lusty grotto]

space balls is a classic

[normal rampart]

how often do you guys use hamstring? I was thinking of dropping it altogether to save a keybind for something, but wondering if there is some clutch times I haven't thought of yet

[jagged pier]

i dont use it ever

u can macro it into chare

if u want

[normal rampart]

i used it a bit last week in M+ to slow the adds that spawned, but other than pvp i never use it either

[plush tendon]

why do you have devestate macroed?

to R no less!

[normal rampart]

lol I just realized I can replace devastator with something more useful too, been a lonnnng time since I pressed r

last time I played was mop

[graceful kite]

Higher like what level of key

[normal rampart]

I like have storm bolt there more now

[winged slate]

Seeing orc racial made me panic that I haven't had my racial bound... Then I remembered I'm nightborne

[left basalt]

i use hamstring on shades to help

[lusty grotto]

i have hamstring bound too

[left basalt]

Q baby

[torn gulch]

i have it on ShiftC

[lusty grotto]

nah mine is ctrl x

[torn gulch]

kekw

[left basalt]

challenge shout, like minds

[winged slate]

Does hamstring slow meaningfully more than tclap?

I have it bound but never touch it

[lusty grotto]

its 50%

so yes

[left basalt]

I'm only using it on shades, not sure.

[torn gulch]

I have up to 50 keybinds prepared but i am not using all of them

40 on my mouse

[left basalt]

that seems like alot?

[torn gulch]

yes i don't use all of them but i can if i need

it took me all of shadowlands to go from a clicker to a binder

fun times

[left basalt]

muscle memory of 50 kbs fuck

[lusty grotto]

ive been a binder since vanilla 🙂

well

since eq1 really

but mostly cause quake 2 players obsessively played with their binds

also fuck thresh cfg

[torn gulch]

i remember the times i was doing keys in bfa as a clicker
had a 5x5 grid of buttons on my screen with counter strike mouse sensitivity

and i was playing wrack a mole

i think i did up to 22's in that setup

[left basalt]

26 in total

[torn gulch]

then i decided it's silly and made the effort to be a binder

[woven torrent]

well starting at 24 tyrannical lmao

[sick sentinel]

i realize its not only talents in keys success

but whats talents for 2pc 2pc

[lusty grotto]

they are pinned

[sick sentinel]

sudden death?

[lusty grotto]

oh i guess thats just for ST

[sick sentinel]

looks like a weird build

+30 rage talent as well

[lusty grotto]

just play the standard build but with bolster

[sick sentinel]

https://raider.io/characters/us/area-52/Tankian

and then if i want bolster, i drop blood surge, even though its alot less rage

[toxic pewter]

get bolster and drop bloodsurge and get into the fray also

[lusty grotto]

its not a "lot less" rage

its less rage

[sick sentinel]

my casts per minute, on par, are below average

and i dont perform the roation perfectly or even well

so, in a vaccuum for my case, alone, its higher rage loss than i should be

[lusty grotto]

nah

[echo egret]

What's that 1H weapon from DOTI worth ?

[mild jolt]

i feel, like im a bit low on haste, whats youre current stat on it ? im at 472

[strong forum]

I'm 477 have 7k haste

BTW if you're low on haste that means you have shit jewelry

If you have good rings/neck

It's impossible to have low haste

I get like 3.4k haste from just those 3 item slots

[mild jolt]

calm down dude, im asking bc i hafe the feeling im a bit low..

[sick sentinel]

did warlock get nerf

[bleak breach]

Aids

[toxic pewter]

480, 6800 haste 2500 vers 4650 crit 1200 mast

[bleak breach]

I’m just below you at 475, think I’m 6.5k atm

[strong forum]

I gained 12 ilvl today

[toxic pewter]

hell yea

[strong forum]

Was a good day

[mild jolt]

sitting on 472 with 5k haste,3k, versa,3,3k crit,^2,8k mastery

[bleak breach]

If I can replace my 463 trink and ring I’ll be about the same

[mild jolt]

seems like need to stack more haste and looking for another ring

[toxic pewter]

yeah one of your jewelery prob high mastery like nom say

[strong forum]

Wanna lower your mastery

Drop mastery to like 1-1.5k

And put it into haste and you're golden

[median tulip]

Welp, gained 2 ilvls total in tonights raiding. Mostly due to replacing a piece of LFR Tier with a piece of HC

[bleak breach]

Yeah, between Gholak and tier this season it’s hard to get below 1k mastery, but that’s all you want it on.

[strong forum]

I replaced neck, crafted ring, got gloves from vault, HC tier chest, HC belt, upgraded 3 items to 483/489, upgraded both embellish to 476

[median tulip]

I also now have a 483 Shield, which is gonna help a lot

[modern gazelle]

Is lariat our bis neck this season?

[bleak breach]

I got 483 gloves, just waiting for catalyst to change. I’m running the necklace off of world boss atm. Nice stats

[bleak breach]

No

[strong forum]

Lariat you gotta sim yourself, the T31 profile does not like lariat

Even in aoe

[plush sorrel]

Hey guys,
quick question, does Rezans trinked bleed count for our 4set?

[pale karma]

Is simming prot the same as dps? Is there a specific site/tool?

[strong forum]

No

[modern gazelle]

What neck looks good in that case? I have raid crit/haste neck atm but it’s all crit basically so looking for haste mainly instead prob

[strong forum]

Raidbots

[median tulip]

The thing with the Lariat is that its effectiveness is heavily tied into how many gem slots you have, and very very few people are even close to having all 8 sockets yet

[strong forum]

I got the worldboss neck, big haste. But I think tott has a good haste neck too

[bleak breach]

Raid neck or the neck front ToTT are good

[strong forum]

Otherwise nymue neck owns

Big crit

[plush sorrel]

thx

[modern gazelle]

Does world boss neck reach 480?

[strong forum]

476

Is champion

[modern gazelle]

Hmm I’ll check it out

[strong forum]

Haste/vers neck

[modern gazelle]

The raid one is good just 80/20 crit/haste

[median tulip]

It's like 75% of the secondaries is Haste

The best Dungeon neck this season it the one fromTotT; that's roughly 2/3rds Haste, 1/3rd Crit

The fact that there are only 3 Dungeon necklaces this season is pretty sucky TBQH

[bleak breach]

@strong forum is wafting devotion still best near haste cap? Or do you swap to sophic or earthen writ

[mild jolt]

well, farming RH for the ring, swap my belt and recraft my shield should fix it

[strong forum]

Sim still says wafting

[hazy bronze]

I like your hat nome

[strong forum]

🐸

[woven torrent]

no

[lilac bloom]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/KHRY4pb7xyBMNq1v

so far my fyrakk fight in heroic

[strong forum]

Your healers are pretty slow at dispelling

[timber nest]

i feel like i have no idea how to sim as prot when i sim all gem combos and it says that the best gems are crit in the neck and vers in my solo ring

[lusty grotto]

🤷

big haste little crit gems

[strong forum]

Your casts are also weird, you're hard underusing ignore pain

[lusty grotto]

not sure why youre simming for gems

[strong forum]

Not sending enough shield slams

Sending too many revenges

[warm plinth]

That's my band name now

[lilac bloom]

i think i'm just trying to dps.. with the revenge

ill do less of that

[strong forum]

Thing is

Using IP properly and not oversending revenge is actually way more dps

thats my cast breakdown

this is yours

[lilac bloom]

ahh ok

[strong forum]

youre straight up just not pressing enough buttons quickly enough

[lilac bloom]

i have to wait for shield slam to proc

[strong forum]

no not wait

thunderclap devastator and revenge can reset shield slam

so your priority is

SS > TC > Revenge

you only revenge if you cant press anything else

[lilac bloom]

byt u guess i used revenge too much to try to proc ss

i end up just using ss tc

most

[strong forum]

you do use those most, but still nowhere near enough

[coral umbra]

What stance do you guys use for keys mostly

[strong forum]

b-stance if its just a weekly key

the higher you go the more often youll sit in d-stance

[lilac bloom]

ok.. so the order is ss tc reve

i always go d stance in mythic keys

[strong forum]

for example this is your opener timeline

https://i.imgur.com/vzIBKfI.png

and this is mine

[lilac bloom]

ok

[strong forum]

you can see that theres alot more happening on my screen

youre sending stuff kinda randomly

for example here

[lilac bloom]

yah i dont know my opening much i just go straight in do the shield slam if i got the rage and do thunderclap then revenge revenge to get my shield slam up

[strong forum]

you have sometimes 2 seconds of pressing absolutely nothing

[lilac bloom]

but i see

u use shield block then shield slam

[strong forum]

you pressed thunderclap twice back to back

without doing anything else inbetween

cuz you overspent rage at the wrong time

you pressed IP into SB

using 65 rage

[lilac bloom]

yah i was hopping my thunderclap can get back my shield slam

[strong forum]

then being left with nothing

when you shouldve not sent IP there

and instead revenge to get another SS proc instead of IP

small things like that add up over time

[lilac bloom]

i hit ignore pain when it starts to hurt

like that beam and the frontal

[frozen quest]

Hey lads,
Is there any good reason to have some crit in m+, or should I just go for haste>vers>crit=mastery?

[strong forum]

youll hurt more when you dont have SS ready

sitting afk pressing nothing because you rage starved yourself

is what gets you killed

shield slam resets is what keeps you alive

[strong forum]

crit = parry and more dmg

[lilac bloom]

ok.. i do more thunderclap and shield block shield slam.. revenge

[strong forum]

treat revenge as your shield slam reset tool

[warm plinth]

ilevel>haste>crit>=vers>mastery (good idea to have 20something% mastery defensively though)

[strong forum]

but make sure not to run your tank dry

without having SS ready

[lilac bloom]

ok

[strong forum]

but absolutely hard prioritise always sending shield slam

[frozen quest]

So, do we go for some crit breakpoints or anything?

[strong forum]

always always always

[warm plinth]

No

[frozen quest]

I see many having around 20%

[warm plinth]

Stats largely don't matter

hence my name

[lilac bloom]

k will do

[strong forum]

no breakpoints, just get ilvl > haste > crit >= vers > mastery

for more specific things just sim

i currently have 4.4k crit 7k haste 1.6k mastery and 1.2k vers, thats just how my gear ended up

[vocal flame]

5106 crit 3386 haste

i am just unlucky on haste gear

[strong forum]

jewelry

[frozen quest]

Don't you feel quishy with that amount of vers?

[strong forum]

why would i

you know how much more DR id have if i had 4k vers?

7%

thats not even 1 keylevel

[frozen quest]

Lul 😉 I'm running 4,6k haste and 5,5k vers atm

But i see what you're saying

[warm plinth]

Vers stacking is a meme that streamers perpetuate but is actually dumb

[sick sentinel]

its stupid but it quasi works

[warm plinth]

Vers is the most expensive stat by far (especially for damage reduction)

[strong forum]

while its not a bad stat to have

[lilac bloom]

thats what i thought

more vers hte better

[frozen quest]

I have a lot of jewelry to work around with, and am wondering what to craft. But i don't want to go as low as 2k vers tbh

[strong forum]

its not as impactful as people make it out to be

none of the stats are

[warm plinth]

You're not even going to notice 2k vs compared to 5.5k vers

[strong forum]

the only "impactful" stat you have is ilvl > haste

beyond that its pure copium that stats make you tanky

[warm plinth]

vers* not vs

[lilac bloom]

well.. i got ilevel 473 vers 22 and hast of 36% and my crit is 19

[warm plinth]

If that's how your gear ended up, then it's whatever

[frozen quest]

Haste is only valuable if you survive tho 😉
But i see what you mean. Currently doing 23-25 keys, and think that losing to much vers will get me killed tbh

[warm plinth]

I'm just saying you don't intentionally seek out vers just for the sake of stacking vers

[vocal flame]

haha i have 22% haste and feel like an old granny its soooo slow

[warm plinth]

Haste helps you survive by increasing rage generation, shield slam resets, and reducing ability cooldowns.

[night heron]

Hello
Do we actually want to craft anything with our 3rd spark considering mythic track with be higher ilevel? I guess I just take a low stat budget item and put alchemical flavor pocket on it?

[strong forum]

has nothing to do with vers, playing poorly is what gets you killed, not coordinating CDs and such

thats what gets you killed, not having X amount of stat

[strong forum]

is mentioned in #268491842637660160

but neck/ring is a super good 3rd option to craft

[warm plinth]

Unless you have the myth track item then there's 0 reason not to craft an item for that slot.

[strong forum]

free 486 ring with socket is better than any 489 ring without a socket

[warm plinth]

and guaranteed stats

[lilac bloom]

nice..i think i would craft a ring

[warm plinth]

I'm making a shield and 2 embellishment items for my 1st three

[night heron]

Sorry i checked pinned comments but didn't think of looking up the FAQ
But yeah was thinking ring would be a nice option

[warm plinth]

because I'm not likely to get a myth track shield any time soon

[lilac bloom]

i'm not even able to get into mythic raid as yet

[olive rock]

The fyrakk trinket do good dmg in key? 23+ cause im currently using heroic augury 489 and rezan 483

[strong forum]

its pretty good in aoe ye

[cinder nova]

Are we not sending TC post-charge for rend these days since the 4p just bricks it?

[strong forum]

should do more than rezan

[strong forum]

no thats dps loss

technically i did that opener wrong

TC came too early

its ravager -> demo -> roar -> SS (if fervid up) -> SC

and THEN TC

unless SS is ready with Fervid again

then SS

SS takes ultimate prio over TC

even if rend isnt up

[olive rock]

What is SS?

[strong forum]

shield slam

[olive rock]

make sense

[grim pilot]

@strong forum where does exe stand in priority when we get to 20% with t31 4pc? Below tc?

[strong forum]

Ye

Wanna prio rage gen

Gotta find a health balance between sending execute and IP tho

[grim pilot]

k then I've been doing it right intuitively

[urban portal]

exec is sort of ass

[strong forum]

It's ass but still damgur

On tree boss in EB it almost feels good to press

With those 200k+ crits

[toxic pewter]

i know this is not a huge deal, but does a 14% fervid dr overwrite a 16% dr or am i seeing it wrong

[strong forum]

Yes

[toxic pewter]

Ok that is what I thought

[strong forum]

And the 14 overwrites the 16 again

[toxic pewter]

ok so sort of evens out in the end

execute damage can do up to 70k now in my gear thats actually stronger than I remember it being even last season lmao

thats not bad lol

thats like 3 shield slams

[strong forum]

Nah closer to 100k

[toxic pewter]

yah dang

[strong forum]

And shieldslam crits for like 250-300k

[toxic pewter]

yeah dang

[strong forum]

Fervid up to 500k with stars aligning

[toxic pewter]

dang

[olive rock]

Augury its so fun

[strong forum]

Shieldslam looks too low

[olive rock]

Im always forget to use shield slam

and keep using ravager

[strong forum]

But yeah augury is very big bar syndrome

Judging by this... You did like what, 130k? Dps

[rich flume]

hi guys any guide on sod prot warrior

by any chance

[olive rock]

143

[rich flume]

and hows everyone doing

[grizzled nova]

bro

[strong forum]

Idk anything about classic

Sorry

[grizzled nova]

one of those has a 1:30 cooldown

and the other has a 3 second cd

[olive rock]

Was revenge not ravanger

its so confuse this names

[sick sentinel]

is it generally better for everyone to run out for giant circle on fall final boss

or everyone goes to chromie

[pallid quiver]

You get a dot on you even if you stand on Chromie

[sick sentinel]

right, well i did it on a low key

[pallid quiver]

Something something devastate baybeeee

Is my current guess

[sick sentinel]

and what they insisted on was that everyone gets in the bubble chromie puts up

and we stack and soak it together

[lusty grotto]

not a classic channel, sorry

try fight club maybe since we dont have an SoD channel

[sick sentinel]

sod is really pepega anyways, just have fun with it

like, if you are taking that mode very seriously, i dunno lol

[lusty grotto]

yeah im with you on this one yogi

[warm plinth]

You will die if you stand in the giant circle. Only the individual with the circle on them stands there initially, then when the big circle goes away, the rest of the group moves in to soak.

[hardy snow]

I've got first legendary in my guild, as tank

[lusty grotto]

gz

[pallid quiver]

My condolences; can you vendor it?

[warm plinth]

Congrats? XD

[pallid quiver]

They're talking about the soaks that come out inmediately after the death blast, yeah. Your head's right. They're saying DOS+heals take the big circle on Chromie

Oh yeah, you can all go to Chrimie, the healing required just quintuples because if the dot I mentioned

[warm plinth]

Yeah, there's a huge circle on one person that you do not stand in. Then after huge circle is gone, DPS/heals stand in the larger soak, and tank stands in the smaller soak in front of that one

[pallid quiver]

So it's the wrong way to do it, but you won't insta die

[warm plinth]

Only one person should be in the circle in that picture, which is the person it's on

[sick sentinel]

no, they think they have to stack for the catalcysm one in the bubble

look

[lusty grotto]

you can do that

its not a bad way to do it

[limpid estuary]

Do we have our definitive bis trinkets for M+ figured out yet?

Guessing Augry is one of them. I’m stuck between Signet brand, Rezans, and Ursine for the other one

[lusty grotto]

undying runs did it that way

[warm plinth]

Why would you take more damage for no reason

[lusty grotto]

but yeah in tyrannical you shouldnt cause of scaling

[sick sentinel]

woudlnt it kill you on a 24 key or something

or like a 20 key

[lusty grotto]

it puts a dot on people

so yes

[jagged gust]

ursine kinda feels weak asf tbh

[lusty grotto]

it will be a huge heal drain

[pallid quiver]

HPS Pad

[lusty grotto]

but on a 10 it probably barely tickles

[sick sentinel]

we were farming for hourglass

[strong forum]

Ursine isn't amazing

It oversimmed early and looked better on PTR

[limpid estuary]

Ah gotcha

[strong forum]

But field tests post fix make it meh

It's alright, it's guaranteed value and +2% mainstat on average

It's not terrible, not amazing

[warm plinth]

I was told that it's bugged and does better when more people in the party are using it

[sick sentinel]

cuz im lining up what drops from this chart

[strong forum]

Everything fixed now

[warm plinth]

ah

[strong forum]

Now it works like it should

[median tulip]

Better in M+ than raid

[sick sentinel]

then i can just, nail down a good key that i can farm easily

[strong forum]

It's really good on council, nymue and fyrakk

Cuz constant ticking dmg on everyone in raid

[warm plinth]

I'll constantly tick your damage

[strong forum]

Woah

[limpid estuary]

So probably Augry and Signet if you can keep it up. Or rezans if you have down time like say TOTT

[strong forum]

Signet is good for the most part of tott

Only the elevator and run back fucks you

But prolly rezans angle ig

[limpid estuary]

Gotcha. Signet probably just always better then?

[strong forum]

It's better in almost all keys

But IG when you drop signet like 4-5 times in a key it's shotty

[mint pike]

BRH too

[limpid estuary]

Yeah…

[strong forum]

In brh you can keep up after 1st boss all the way until the end

You only drop signet once

[pallid quiver]

Unless your party refuses to stay alive/healer threatens to leave if you don't stop for their every pull binky wait

[limpid estuary]

I’ll have to tell my healer no more mana breaks

[strong forum]

That's just a bad healer

[pallid quiver]

They can just drink while you go on

[strong forum]

If he can't find the proper times to drink

While you go on ahead

[mint pike]

Tight to get up boulder stairs without dropping

[strong forum]

It's tight but possible

[mint pike]

But yeah not impossible

[strong forum]

And even then it's not bad to drop before the large boulder run

[warm plinth]

make healer go up first

before mobs are dead

big brain strat

[median tulip]

The first set is easy; second set is longer

[strong forum]

Cuz you just fight a whack pull anyway and pre-stac for boss

[pallid quiver]

But their BINKY, ghash

[mint pike]

Healer goes up first so he can rez bads at the top lmao

[limpid estuary]

True

[strong forum]

And you can just slap the 2 mobs at the bottom of the stairs

[warm plinth]

tbf I haven't seen a healer survive the stairs yet

[strong forum]

They don't fight back

[limpid estuary]

Good idea

[pallid quiver]

I haven't seen anyone other than me survive yet

[warm plinth]

smfh

[mint pike]

Tyrannical stairs: boulders 50% bigger and faster
Fort stairs: 50% more boulders

Challenge impossible

[strong forum]

New affix teeming

2 boulders at the same time

[pallid quiver]

We need funny affixes like that

[warm plinth]

I don't actually think you could go up the stairs if they were 50% bigger and faster

[mint pike]

Crossover episode: in the speed gauntlet of Rise, the dudes throw BRH boulders instead of pocket sand

[median tulip]

Oh gods teeming

[winged slate]

Nah, now at the top of the stairs is two boulders throwing the flamethrower guys down

[lusty grotto]

as long as its not ghuunies

[frozen quest]

What's the nitro boost waist thingy called?

[grizzled nova]

sir that's cheating with trinkets

[mild jolt]

finaly, first 20 intime

[lusty grotto]

gz

[vocal flame]

nitro boosts

[uneven mason]

https://tenor.com/view/ssj-blue-kaioken-dragon-ball-z-punch-gif-17229449

[lusty grotto]

idk about that

hes replying to someone with unbuffed haste

more like comparing himself with a Goku wearing gigaton training weights

[toxic pewter]

osnap

the items missing from trading post were added

woot

[pale karma]

grats!

[true hound]

There's a toy you can use to get you in combat. Worn doll. 20min cd. Using it spawns a little thing that follows you. You can't target it, but it does take damage from aoe abilities like tc and puts you in combat. I sure there are more toys/items like that you can use too.

[strong forum]

Ye ik

[median tulip]

With this one simple trick, Rogues will Hate you!

[toxic pewter]

does worn doll still work cuz i got it and used it but does not seem to put me in combat unless i am missing something

[nocturne spindle]

is there TLDR why thunderlord good now and we dont take show of force instead?

just because tier set already messes up CDs being in line?

[pallid quiver]

We press more TC

[vocal flame]

so are we waiting for bleeds to do damage with the 2pc tier or can we apply rend then use it?

[chilly brook]

so uhhh

who needs dps?

[vocal flame]

Dag my bite is never that high but im only 2pc

[pallid quiver]

I don't understand your question, but our base rotation and priority don't change

[vocal flame]

yeah i sounds confusing, my bite is way low on my damage output so th ought i was doing something wrong

im clapping etc doing the same

[chilly brook]

could be sending bite procs without rend up

[vocal flame]

mmm possibly i just got the WA so gonna keep more track

[daring marlin]

are you even trying tbh...

[cinder nova]

It wont. There are warriors doing higher keys than you with less vers.

It's cope.

[drowsy shale]

So does spell block like block chance all magic damage ect or just direct spells to the face

[modern gazelle]

anyone got tips for nymue tanking on mythic?

[chilly brook]

it won't, play better stop feelycrafting

there are very few things at that level that will completely ruin you and vers isn't going to save you from them either

[rough whale]

Hey Guys! I am a m+ Prot warry Player and have some questions about gearing. I have a few troubles so Progress on ilevel 459+. Usually I used Askmrrobot (I know...) to have a BiS Goal for example all +13 Keys until I will Progress on Higher Keys ... The Problem is that Askmrrobot try to sell me Mastery as the best Stat ans holds haste below 30% (I guess ITS because of diminishing Returns...). Has someone a good advise to me to define good BiS Lists for me?

And what m+ trinkets so you recommend for me?

[chilly brook]

First of all

use raidbots not askmrrobot

askmrrobot is bad

[rough whale]

But raidbots doesnt Support Tanks?

[chilly brook]

second of all, simming will be purely for dps

period

[chilly brook]

equip ilvl, go for haste if you can

simple ez as

[rough whale]

Ok

Ok

But why then wowhead Go for this necklace? There is No haste on it

This is from their BiS list

[chilly brook]

well

you see

the wowhead guide isn't written by an actual prot warrior main, use icyveins

[rough whale]

👍🏾

[chilly brook]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/protection-warrior-pve-tank-gear-best-in-slot?area=area_1

if you're looking for a "BiS list" this would be your best bet

[rough whale]

This is exactly what I was looking for, perfect

So basicly going through every Slot and Pick on Same ilvl the highest haste Pick

With good vers/crit

[modern gazelle]

nymue mythic shouldnt exist dude holy this fight is tough

these lines should be illegal

[pale karma]

Nyume says crossing the lines is not allowed. What you gonna do, kill her?

[shell shale]

Does anyone know if the Mythic add on Nyume cone's are targeted at players?

[novel temple]

So I can get up to 47 stacks on the raid boss tanking dummy

With t31 4p now

Though I backed out cause I didn’t wanna go till death

[novel temple]

Also, what about the list that’s on simulationcraft?

[chilly brook]

idk

[novel temple]

Cause it’s basically the same except the shield choice

[jagged gust]

Anyone present know many treants does larodar spawn initially in P2?

[narrow jay]

do we run sophic dev or wafting dev?

[jagged gust]

From what I can tell wafting starting to sim real well these days whoops didn't realize this was prot

[ionic fern]

Yes.

[sand pebble]

How many stacks on wcm second boss goto?

[ionic fern]

Idk, depends on the key level.

[sand pebble]

20

[ionic fern]

Around 20-21 and with decent DPS'ers you shouldn't have the need to reset at all.

[sand pebble]

I've held it all fight to 83 stacks

What's it cap at?

[ionic fern]

🤷

On 24 i reset once at 50% HP.

[ionic fern]

The list on simc is done for the highest DPS output in most scenarios.

Which in most cases uses..highest ilvl + haste/crit/vers.

[warm plinth]

It doesn't. You go to as many stacks as you can handle unless you're going to be killed by stacks before the boss dies. If you need to reset, you want to do it around 30 stacks.

[sand pebble]

Cheers

[ionic fern]

Your DPS mustev been horrid tho if you went to 80+ stacks.

We ended the 20 on 60.

👀

And the 23 went to 80.

[sly shadow]

yayy

raven lord from galakronds

[sand pebble]

Yep and that's why I was asking

I was like this is taking forever

[modern gazelle]

has gift of ursine been fixed?

[rare summit]

I’ve had dps complain on that boss saying the stacks buffed the thorns damage - that actually not true?

[ionic fern]

Not true.

We had the same discussion and the damage of thorns remained the same over the course of the fight according to logs.

[restive scroll]

@warm plinth said otherwise yesterday, with some log proofs as well

[ionic fern]

Smh, now i gotta go find my logs.

[restive scroll]

Oh sorry, maybe that was ablut fire damage, not thorns

[wind oak]

If it did scales you would basically get one shot in high keys

[woven torrent]

also curious about this

[blazing condor]

So as long as the healer can kite and you can live you can kinda stack as much as poss?

[woven torrent]

I always turned around to face the spell casters when i used spell block

but not sure if needed

[ionic fern]

Needed.

If you turn your back to them or let SB drop when you have Spell Block up, it won't mitigate.

[woven torrent]

ok thanks

[pallid quiver]

unless you rng block it on the latter

[restive scroll]

So they were probably just talking about fire damage, sorry

[ionic fern]

Maybe, i can't check that from my logs since we only reset once, and cba finding random logs at work.

[warm plinth]

I never said thorns was increased. I said it wasn't.

The logs I was showing were to demonstrate that the burning brush dot is not just affected on the first tick, but rather the first tick is full stacks and it ramps down as the ticks progress.

[restive scroll]

Yeup

Sorry @warm plinth

[warm plinth]

All good. I didn't see you'd corrected yourself.

[sudden burrow]

i want to use my Flavor Pocket on what craftet item i would do it best ?

[restive scroll]

Apparently you a do that on rings, so probably the best

[wind oak]

Since craft item are now max 486 only rings is best choice for pocket flavor

And its free socket too

[sleek current]

486 you mean?

[wind oak]

Yea

Corrected

[sleek current]

Thought some secret 496 was possible then. Sad now.

Ring probably but, there are some good rings.

It's superficial and I'd rather spend money on food and have an extra 3 iLvl off a Myth piece. But, ring would be fine.

[blazing condor]

Leggo weapon

[sleek current]

I'm die hard Prot. I'll eventually loot it I think but, I'll never use it. Might not even make it if it's going to cost me 900k. 😂

[pallid quiver]

nobody answered me about if you could vendor it or not

[sleek current]

Doubt it. Haha

Can't wait to do less ST than BDK though. Firmly putting us at the bottom in heroic parses.

[charred ivy]

How is correct way to tank everbloom with 3 bosses?

[sleek current]

Tank Dulhu on top of Telu to start. Once Telu casts Fury switch to Water guy, once Water guy casts Fury, switch back to Telu.

Rinse and Repeat until Telu is dead.

The DPS are very good at killing you here as well. They need to step away from the bosses just before your noxious charge hits.

[charred ivy]

Charge seem to do alot DMG?

[sleek current]

SW the first, spell block the second, spell reflect up for every one you can. Keep last stand in reserve, health pots and cheat death trinket if you have it.

It does less damage than last Tyrannical so should be far more manageable now. The biggest problem is the DPS killing you with green under the bosses which you need to hit to heal, keep mitigation up.

[charred ivy]

I was told cheat death trinket is for scrubs xD 😂

[sleek current]

Better alive than dead.

[opaque quest]

Alive scrub > dead pro

[sleek current]

I don't have it so... I have no choice but, if I had it. I'd definitely use it specifically for those bosses.

[charred ivy]

Haha

Need try tank it on something lower first I guess

[opaque quest]

Ive been running cheat death all season last season

No shame in it. IO is IO

[sleek current]

As a note you Shield Wall the first because you should have BL which means SW will be back up very fast. The more uses you get out of it, the better.

[ionic fern]

It does almost no damage now (obviously depends on key level).
Swap to Dstance + full IP + SR.
And use Spell Block / SW as needed.

[gilded juniper]

Should i be hopping into battle stance at all for mythic +? For the extra dps?

[sleek current]

If you feel safe, yeah.

This week you can do basically every trash pull in BS. I mean, I did both the giga pulls in Throne at +23 in Battle Stance and didn't feel in danger at all.

[ionic fern]

Yes.

I'm "stance dancing" most of my dungeons, but this requries dungeon/pull knowledge and depends on your CD's going in.

[sly shadow]

people who feel the need to shame others for using a safety net are the real bads, no one plays perfectly 100% of the time and if the tank die everyone die so

most dk's literally run double cheat death (purg + trinket) at basically all key levels 20+

if the 8 million damage that come from your offensive trinket is going to make or break the key you are either running 25's or there are more unadressed underlying issues

[chilly brook]

Cheat death trinket gives you no value if you’re not dying

It’s good when it’s good but generally you’d just be better off running a different trinket and fixing your play

[sly shadow]

and flood insurance gives you no value when your house isn't flooding

[chilly brook]

Apples to oranges

[sly shadow]

same with car insurance

[chilly brook]

Again apples to oranges

You’re not losing out on home owners insurance if you have car insurance

Whereas you do lose out on something by running a trinket you don’t need to

And you can make sure you dying isn’t a problem you caused

[red otter]

I mean while both are accurate how often is tank damage a factor in timing keys nowadays...? Timers are so loose that as long as you aren't wiping you're fine.

[chilly brook]

You doing more damage means you take less damage

Things can’t kill you when they’re dead

[sly shadow]

an offensive trinket on a tank contributes so little to the timer its unreal

but if you wipe goodbye 3 minutes

[chilly brook]

Does it really contribute so little?

[sly shadow]

yes

when the vast majority of trinkets avg around 8 million damage a dungeon yes

[chilly brook]

Does it really?

[sly shadow]

this is throne of the tides or everbloom

i literally own both of those

on my guardian druid

[chilly brook]

Yazma is throne?

Or EB?

[sly shadow]

oh atal dazar

i own both of those trinkets and they dont do anywhere near that over the course of a whole dungeon

[chilly brook]

Throne also no longer shows damage amp

[chilly brook]

You don’t chain enough then

[sly shadow]

i do

[chilly brook]

I’m not doing some black magic

[sleek current]

Man, those DPS were not pumping in that screenshot. 😂

[chilly brook]

They weren’t, was me helping alts

[sleek current]

That makes more sense. Haha

[chilly brook]

Sorry but if you’re advocating for cheat death trinkets in most keys you’re just wrong

[sleek current]

You can get some tasty chains in Atal as well. Proper lovely for those trinkets.

[chilly brook]

I don’t think I dropped 15 stacks ever

Literally dragged a mob from third boss to yazma to stay in combat

[sly shadow]

if you want to wear a cheat death trinket there is nothing wrong with it, even if it doesn't proc you are not wrong

if you took off signet brand, you were still timing that key regardless

[sleek current]

Brilliant. Haha

Which mob did you drag? The one next to the jugg at the stairs?

I'd be scared to run with a jugg. Someone is dying for sure. 😂

On a fort week anyway.

[chilly brook]

Ok so do the entirety of your keys in defensive stance while you’re at it

Probably gem stamina too

[sly shadow]

ill even put on cloth gear while we're acting dumb as fuck

[chilly brook]

It was a jugg ironically

[sleek current]

I guess as long as he's tranq'd no biggy. Haha.

[chilly brook]

This isn’t some new argument, people have always made some silly argument for defensive trinkets or items they don’t need in content ever since Skyhold was made

The answer has never changed

[sly shadow]

ok well go look at the raider io leaderboard and tell me they needed 15 mil damage from signet brand

[chilly brook]

….

[sleek current]

If you need it, you need it. If you don't, use something else. Dull conversation this. Lol

[restive scroll]

You're both saying the same thing, neither is required for most of people running keys

[sly shadow]

i agree hogo

im saying you don't shame people for wanting to wear defensive trinkets

[chilly brook]

People ran that stupid ass stamina trinket from SL mega dungeon because they “felt it was good” despite it being bad for warrior

On the leaderboard

[sly shadow]

you can't expect everything to go 100% perfectly

if you do you literally never play with pugs

even in 20's melee dps are standing ontop of the 2nd boss in everbloom which can be fatal

[chilly brook]

Thats not fatal for you as a tank?

Wadu

Like they’re stupid for doing it but it’s not going to kill you

[sly shadow]

it can if it blocks your path, you have to stagger your cooldowns a lot

but you're just nitpicking regardless, even if it didn't kill you, it can

[restive scroll]

Everybody can do whatever if it makes them feel good.
But it's not good advice to say use a bad thing for it

[chilly brook]

You are free to play suboptimally if you wish

But the disc is obviously going to encourage optimal choices

[restive scroll]

Exactly

Shouldn't shame them either

Just answer questions properly

[sly shadow]

bad and suboptimal is extremely subjective because people are double and tripple chesting decently sized keys with the cheat death trinket on

if you feel uncomfortable with the content you are doing

and you would like an extra layer of protection

there is nothing wrong with wearing it

[restive scroll]

Exactly, but if you ask questions about how to do stuff, people will answer optimally

[sly shadow]

flaming or acting like its a big deal gets you literally no where

[restive scroll]

People are toxic

What can you do

[sly shadow]

I wore it on my guardian druid getting all my portals because I knew if i went down that there is a semi decent chance I won't get my portal because tank wipes in some keys are a pretty good setback

now i wear augury and rageheart in keys ive gained experience in

[green bronze]

do i just take 6 tokens for socket? I have Gholak 476(Champion)

[sly shadow]

well we dont know what the rest of your gear look like so its hard to say

[restive scroll]

I even regularly quit this discord because it's too toxic for me

[sly shadow]

the druid discord is a little more friendly i feel

boomchickens are chill

woyer is all ego baby

[restive scroll]

Depends at what time, and who feels like talking, that's how people work :)

[toxic pewter]

This one of the least toxic class discords

[sly shadow]

it gets pretty bad in the fel hammer

[restive scroll]

Maybe, that's why i hang out little here :)

[sly shadow]

just remember friends when we get this next fated season, if they bring plaguefall back

WE RIOT

[hardy snow]

[sly shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/peepo-peepo-riot-riot-protest-peepo-angry-gif-21768097

[ionic fern]

[sly shadow]

https://tenor.com/view/peepoleave-peepo-gif-22659380

[ionic fern]

Byeeeeeeeeee.

[blazing condor]

Havent been home all week

Body is itching

What is my vault

[ionic fern]

Triple Cloak.

[blazing condor]

https://media.tenor.com/Jyyd5rbiTDMAAAAC/monkey-with-hands-in-the-head.gif

[sick sentinel]

not mine

[toxic pewter]

imagine thinking warriors have more of an ego than druids

[sick sentinel]

12 deaths in a +2 , watching some dudes "noob first time mythic +" video

and his armor is broken lmao

[red otter]

I had a group once brick +2 HOI. Also share the video I wanna watch.

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6kRI-Kre6Y inb4 o7 moderated "yogi stop posting random videos!!!!!!!!!!!!!" dude literally ask for it

it appears hes a zoomer arms warrior that dies alot

[zealous willow]

Guys i have crit trinket from last boss , should i try to get versa heart one or use rezan one

[toxic pewter]

if you could get a heart I would say go for it personally

rezan trinket is great too though don't get me wrong

the str on rezans is very strong

i use augury and signet personally which is also quite strong

[vast sierra]

Hello, quick question; is it possible to get Legendary Weap as tank loot spec?

[warm plinth]

Yes

[sick sentinel]

i just want to double check

about the mechanic we were discussing yesterday, fall final boss the giant circle cataclysm whatever fireball

so, if only 1 guy is going to get hit by it, they have to be in with chromie, and then they take a bigger dot i guess? cuz its not split?

[warm plinth]

Nothing gets split on the initial hit.

[sick sentinel]

it seemed like they were concerned chromie was losing too much HP and then getting mad at healer for not healing her enough

[warm plinth]

Big circle goes on 1 player.
That player stands in the dome that Chromie spawns which reduces their damage taken.
That player gets the DoT.
After big circle goes away, tank goes in small circle, party goes in big circle to split damage with Chromie.

[sick sentinel]

i get that part

its the soak part they seemingly randomly brought up

[warm plinth]

You need everyone in the circle or Chromie is dying.

[sick sentinel]

oh really

ok

like the cata one

right?

[warm plinth]

The circle after the giant one goes away

[tidal nest]

Hey What's the biggest spell reflect in this dungeon pool?
I need this for research

[sick sentinel]

a HUGE one is matorn basement

[red otter]

Thx

[sick sentinel]

+20% dmg for x seconds

[tidal nest]

How about raw damage?

[warm plinth]

hmm, probably Wracking Pain? But it only goes on the tank if everyone else is dead

[restive scroll]

First boss manor, 3rs everbloom are pretty good raw damage

A million each in low 20 something

[tidal nest]

bramble bolts?

or the soul ones

[warm plinth]

All 3 do the same damage afaik. But you want to reflect the one of the boss holding the iris

Because the ones not holding it do less damage

[tidal nest]

i see i see

and 3rd everbloom is pyroblast

i bet

[restive scroll]

Well, not for prot

Often target a dps

[tidal nest]

ah

[warm plinth]

Boss doesn't do pyroblast, just fireball. The add pyroblast hits quite hard though

[restive scroll]

It's mostly fireball/frostbolt/arcane blast from the boss

[warm plinth]

trash mob, not add*

[restive scroll]

In good groups, you can try to pull a bit before the rest of the group so cast is on you, but less reliable, so i didn't go into it

At least these are the strongest ones i can think about atm

[ionic fern]

All 23 Tyrannical.

Sol>Ozumat>Triad

[tidal nest]

alright sounds cool

thanks a lot

❤️

[restive scroll]

Taking into account that you show 1sister out of 3

But good thinking about ozumat

[ionic fern]

What i'm showing is per cast.

Not "Total damage".

[restive scroll]

Oh my bad, missread

[warm plinth]

this one is on 1 person; they go into the dome as shown here

After that's gone, dome disappears and the two circles spawn

Tank stands in the front one, party stands in the back one

This is the part that has split damage

Chromie does not take damage from the first thing, but she does take damage (even with everyone in place) from the 2nd thing

But the 2nd thing is split. On relevant keys, even 1 person missing from the soak means she's probably dead

[ionic fern]

Definitely dead*

[warm plinth]

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1997394830?t=00h48m47s You can watch this +5 I helped a friend with from this timestamp to see what I'm talking about

[ionic fern]

😄

[warm plinth]

Yeah lol

[sick sentinel]

i hate that ooze fiht

so much

[warm plinth]

It's a very easy fight when done properly and a very hard fight when not done properly

[sick sentinel]

i hate it fundamentally

its designed to be annoying fight

[warm plinth]

idk I don't find it annoying. Well, I wish you couldn't get stuck on the coral and shit but that's more an arena problem than an encounter design problem.

[sick sentinel]

random party member "noob healer" as im alt f4ing as the key complets lolol

💀

did get my s3 champion hourglass however

[nocturne vine]

Hey guys, which are the best trinkets for you this season

[lost wyvern]

is it normal for demon hunters to do 150k ST dps in raid? literally cant keep aggro no matter what

[ionic fern]

Catacylsmic Signet Brand
Fyrakk's Tainted Rageheart
Rezan's Greaming Eye
Branch of the Tormented Ancient
Accelerating Hourglass
Prophetic Stonescales if you want a cheat death.

[ionic fern]

Vengeance DH's?

[warm plinth]

I mean, you would only need to do like 30k to hold aggro off that

[lost wyvern]

yes

im doing 90k

cant keep aggro

[ionic fern]

You doing 90k seems..low.

Them doing 150k, no idea.

You not holding aggro sounds like something fishy going on.

Can't say w/o logs.

🤷

[sick sentinel]

if i do dream weeklies, i get another half spark correct? more specfically 1500 quest