oh good point actually
#protection
lusty grotto
im thinking about it but my neck is ass and no ToTT or Nymue necks
dusky canopy
Yeah more main stat on other pieces if I do wyrm craft this week
toxic pewter
yeah i want to get flavor pocket on a ring but i am also cheap and dont want to spend 60k on flavor pocket lmao
toxic pewter
yeah good point actually makes more sense to get more str
can always upgrade ring later
dusky canopy
476 ring vs 486 isn’t that huge honestly
toxic pewter
ya
waxen frigate
Jewelery is always low prio
lusty grotto
cata charge is next week yea?
waxen frigate
Yes
dusky canopy
Yes
lusty grotto
i need to cata my fucking boots
dusky canopy
Might do the same actually
toxic pewter
wat why boots
dusky canopy
Crit/haste from raid iirc
toxic pewter
ah
lusty grotto
crit haste yea
coral umbra
Crafting a shield when the server comes on. I made it to 466 with a 437 shield and weapon
waxen frigate
Crafting a shield when the server comes on. I made it to 466 with a 437 shield a...
Prob worth doing gnarlroot first on normal/heroic
coral umbra
Fair
I have the weirdest gear
I got ksm on a fresh warrior so have very little gear
Like 45% crit
stable raft
do people still use the SS & IP Macro?
stable raft
could you link me your macro for that if possible plz? 🙂
stark crystal
Hey everyone, I got a question about 2nd stats as a prot. I got 7165 haste atm. Is there any cap or value that we aim for and dont want to pass? Or just as much as we can get?
stable raft
<:pins:353613639380369418>
Thank you
uneven mason
Hey everyone, I got a question about 2nd stats as a prot. I got 7165 haste atm. ...
@lusty grotto
stable raft
<@131897531251556352>
True Stat values download this addon on curse forge mate, will help with secondary
sick sentinel
affixes for na?
stark crystal
<@131897531251556352>
Thanks for the replay. Okay what why 7100? Is there any breakpoint ?
uneven mason
affixes for na?
Let you know in 1.5 hours
uneven mason
Thanks for the replay. Okay what why 7100? Is there any breakpoint ?
No breakpoint, but after 7100 rating you can go for crit
Aslong as you're not sacrifice ilvl
sick sentinel
if its greivous DO NOT pug a healer for wcm, witches tyranical grevious 2nd 3rd are disgusting
u will habv ragrets
stark crystal
No breakpoint, but after 7100 rating you can go for crit
Okay, atm I go for a balance between crit an Vers. It feels pretty nice ok mythic progress.
sick sentinel
theres 3 mechanics, 4 if u counthe the firs witches mc and the paladin doesnt buble .... so he gets mc'd bubbles and kills someone
uneven mason
Who brings paladins?
stark crystal
I mean, just sim
I’ll do for dmg. Just wanted to know the haste cap. Thanks!
sick sentinel
theres a mechanic u have to move some mount of yards from the rest of the team and the saame one right after or during does a ring around players that hurts other players
thats the biggest threat
uneven mason
Haste cap is Nimchip, the warrior without a prot spec
stark crystal
😂
sick sentinel
3rd is thorns and if dps is stupid and puts too much dps intoi her, they die
uneven mason
All I'm hearing Yogi is bring a MW
sick sentinel
whenever we did that in bfa on tyanical greivous
our group vaporized
doing that fight on those affixes on a relatively normal to high lvl key, is that
vocal flame
Like 45% crit
haha my crit is super high too. I just can't get haste gear
coral umbra
haha my crit is super high too. I just can't get haste gear
My main trinket is the mirror
It’s hilarious blowing CDs in an Aoe pack with 65% crit
vocal flame
My main trinket is the mirror
Mine is that ocean thing with like 700 crit lol
coral umbra
I have that one also
sick sentinel
guys, i just randomly dc wtf
coral umbra
Are you NA?
toxic pewter
need more haste, playing with low haste feels awful
silent vessel
cinder nova
Is this M prog?
Tell your raid leader to reign this fucking circus in, he's gonna drive everyone out and scour morale.
dusky canopy
Yes mythic prog bro
cinder nova
Yeah this guy needs to get kicked down 5 or 6 rungs on whatever plastic Fisher Price ladder he's trying to stand atop.
dusky canopy
He was bitching in discord general last night about how heroic is a waste of his time so if we do another week of heroic for people to get to let’s/axe blp he’s leaving
Lmao
We’re talking 1.5hrs to clear heroic btw
cinder nova
Tell him to try and not suck any dick on the way to the parking lot.
jagged pier
i mean i like talking durign prog
its boring otherwise
but bitching about loot is sad
dusky canopy
Yeah jakey no kidding
cinder nova
Yeah, Brewjj, 1000% tell your raid lead to find a replacement STAT and dumpster his stupid ass.
jagged pier
like dps in my guild used to complain where im there in like 20 less ilvl than them
KEKW
cinder nova
There is no world he's not already annoying and rubbing up the rest of your raiders the wrong way.
cinder nova
And losing him is far more manageable than hemorrhaging everyone else.
cinder nova
Dude needs to take his schitzoposting back to /vg/ or some shit.
What was his prog S1/2?
lusty tiger
We’re talking 1.5hrs to clear heroic btw
dusky canopy
What was his prog S1/2?
He did 9/9 with us in Abberus
uneven mason
Tell him to try and not suck any dick on the way to the parking lot.
Clerks reference 10/10
toxic pewter
are they arms or fury
uneven mason
Nerfed rally, gotta double up for the same pad
toxic pewter
oh right u dps i forgot
dusky canopy
Yes iirc
toxic pewter
lmao jk
uneven mason
Like my kid popping a wheely for the first time and thinking she's going to go into pro dirt bike courses
toxic pewter
servers up na
uneven mason
Vault in 20
dusky canopy
Yes we have 25 people on our roster
And a few trials
So 27 total I think
It’s a bit heavy
cinder nova
He's dead, guaranteed.
You don't try and hold a raid hostage with an attitude that petulant and a roster that heavy
dusky canopy
Depends how much they value WFT
uneven mason
Time to let that pleb warm some pine
dusky canopy
He’s the only one currently
lusty grotto
hope you dont get shafted like me brew 😄
dusky canopy
The other warrior has been around longer and we’re pretty dead even in terms of skill/performance
So might be taking an L bozo
lusty grotto
fuck man
dusky canopy
But we’ll see
cinder nova
Nothing is good enough to justify or empower that behavior. Period.
lusty grotto
why are we so unlucky
uneven mason
We have a 24man roster and my GM kicked our #1 DPS for mouthing off like that, don't bring some toxic shit to the table
cinder nova
We have a 24man roster and my GM kicked our #1 DPS for mouthing off like that, d...
This.
dusky canopy
The other guy is notorious for doing like 5-6 weeks of mythic then dodging raid for his M+ group and pushing title
So I might be chillen not sure how they’ll handle it
cinder nova
Making sure your entire raid WANTS to come back, have fun, prog M, etc. will eclipse that bullshit every day of the week.
lusty grotto
im secretly hoping i can get in when people start to dip
dusky canopy
Oh and let’s not forget I had that supposed L moment clarifying the duck mechanics on council
uneven mason
Mind you he wouldn't be #1 after the nerfs today
lusty grotto
but not holding my breath
dusky canopy
Making sure your entire raid WANTS to come back, have fun, prog M, etc. will ecl...
Hard agree homie
Guys a clown and gots to go
uneven mason
Guys a clown and gots to go
I'll come wf for you
cinder nova
I feel kinda bad for you guys. I got scooped by a great guild at the start of ATSC, but they dropped me saying I didn't have what it took to kill M Sark - then spitefully manged to get scouted by another guild to snake up CE.
uneven mason
You're na right?
cinder nova
I'm just failing upwards 
lusty grotto
i dont really feel bad, i didnt really do as well as i'd hoped in my recruitment
uneven mason
Just let me gear up the shaman he's like....402 RN 
strong forum
"didnt have what it took for M sark?"
lusty grotto
too used to tanking
strong forum
dafuq
uneven mason
too used to tanking
I'm suffering from this atm
dusky canopy
If I can get CE in 4 months, and it was my very first time EVER mythic raiding besides the first few puggable ones
Anyone can
lusty grotto
problem is a lot of guilds have warriors and they are reserving very little spots for us
dusky canopy
The whole “doesn’t have what it takes” sentiment is totally RE
cinder nova
Yeah the first few weeks of prog were pretty tough and we had a lot of lost time on P2 due to bad melee baiting on blossoms, so it'd ruin the entire phase.
I think they thought it was a tank issue
Although I did get floundered on P3 a few times, which I can take on the chin.
Still, spite is like roaring furnace.
I hate people telling me what I can and can't do
dusky canopy
Just let me gear up the shaman he's like....402 RN <:clowning:745703559202603121...
Get to grinding hoss, we’re trialing everybody right now it seems LOL
New people in our heroic clears every week so far
left basalt
vaults are up
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
Always keep trialing, don't get complacent
cinder nova
That's sweet, ambrosaic vindication
cinder nova
this is gonna be my last mythic vault for a while kekw
Why
lusty grotto
cause i got declined
cerulean tusk
I'm ahead of them in prog
You can do that, but can't do that.
uneven mason
vaults are up
Ooo a sandglass
cinder nova
You can do that, but can't do that.
left basalt
Ooo a sandglass
lusty grotto
im gonna say though
cinder nova
cause i got declined
lusty grotto
its been a while since ive been interested in continuing arms
even though tanking is my prio
arms isnt even that good right now playstyle wise
idk
but i feel i should keep going with it
cerulean tusk
You do you
toxic pewter
pretty much take the augury right lmao
strong forum
its easier to get a myth chest than augury id say
lusty grotto
strong forum
cuz augury is 1 item, chest any kind will do
toxic pewter
yah true
strong forum
cuz catalyst next week
toxic pewter
i already have 4 set just would be an ilvl increase
is there any downside to converting the whelpling/drake crests to better crests this early in the week
cerulean tusk
pretty much take the augury right lmao
Gz on aug
uneven mason
?
toxic pewter
thats a good trinket
uneven mason
This was my trinket and boot week
lol
almost makes up for the 42,746 ADs I ran in BFA
and never got it
karmic stream
Xeri'tac's Unhatched Egg Sac is it good for prot warriors? Is either that one or mirror idk which one to use
toxic pewter
with augury do i want to stack more crit more than ever before or what lol
kinda do right?
lusty grotto
??
toxic pewter
im gonna do it
lusty grotto
also you should have crit
toxic pewter
im going pure crit even over haste
toxic pewter
im going all in on the crit
lusty grotto
trinkets scale with vers
toxic pewter
yah but if i crit more i do bigger numbies
lusty grotto
do what you want, idk why you would ask the question
uneven mason
do what you want, idk why you would ask the question
he's humble bragging about the trinket
toxic pewter
lol
lusty grotto
yeah pretty much
toxic pewter
ya
dusky canopy
Gz
toxic pewter
me do big dam
strong forum
*your trinket
toxic pewter
is that actually a feasible build
like crit vers with heavy repurcussions to help with shieldblock
strong forum
its playable
toxic pewter
ill be slow as hell
strong forum
battering ram covers alot for lack of haste
toxic pewter
yeah the auto attack speed for SS
strong forum
but it will probably feel quite slow
toxic pewter
yeah it sounds awful
strong forum
this is assuming legit sub 10% haste
dusky canopy
Ain’t no way
lusty grotto
never getting trinkets
dusky canopy
I’d quit wow if I had to game at 10% speed
lusty grotto
or gholak 😦
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
oof
strong forum
ive said it before, if your class doesnt stack haste its a shit class
simple as
faster = more gooder
strong forum
or gholak 😦
fury lootspec?
strong forum
getting 2 rings and a cloak in m+ slot is criminal
toxic pewter
yeah thats an awful vault ngl
lusty grotto
lol nothing ever changes
pallid quiver
Hmmm, do I gamble with fury lootspec to try and get a Heroic Gholak over my normal, or do I settle with Arms
strong forum
cloaks should be banned from vault
cinder nova
I'm kinda spooked that Rageheart is my best ST
Well that and signet
I'm zooming with 8900 haste
toxic pewter
isnt augury better
toxic pewter
lol
toxic pewter
yeah i want a refund i aint got a tertiary on mine
pallid quiver
huh
I actually wanted trinkets,
but i'll take going to heroic gholak over normal gholak
toxic pewter
wait u got a heroic gholak?
pallid quiver
gamba paid off, never punished
toxic pewter
nice grats
pallid quiver
rest of the vault is 100% telling to take it, too
"hey kid, do you want pieces of gear you already have at myth track, some bracers that are your embel slot, or a ring with 1800 mastery, orrrrrrr"
lusty grotto
left basalt
It’s big dam, I like it
orchid mural
woot!
uneven mason
be more in ST I guess
uneven mason
woot!
Fryak's 1h beats that even at champion ilvl iirc
What is it with boots today?
I had 3 boots in my vault
I'm WEARING heroic track boots
and that was my lootbox
uneven mason
I Mean, I'll take the haste
sick sentinel
What should your shield block uptime be around during a key?
lusty grotto
but it was pretty fucking bad 😦
uneven mason
effectively 100%
lusty grotto
95%+
sick sentinel
ok, i thought this tank was terrible. Thanks
uneven mason
if you're having gaps without Bolster, switch to HR over ITF
sick sentinel
uneven mason
lusty grotto
blazing condor
Chad
lusty grotto
still not as bad as my vault
sick sentinel
cuz the boots are bad stats, dunno what they transform into off hand
uneven mason
Nim, stop bitching
lusty grotto
but your name isnt kanga 😦
uneven mason
IDC, stop bitching!
lusty grotto
okay
pallid quiver
looks at his vault, all 2Hs
uneven mason
it's never bad
pallid quiver
even the tokens are just 6 2Hs
pallid quiver
hey it tried to give me that ring, too
lusty grotto
it be like that some... everytime
polar tinsel
You can only get gear in your vault from raid bosses you’ve killed right? I only do LFR so there’s no chance for me to get fyrakk gear yet right?
lusty grotto
not this past week
if you kill fyraak in lfr once though
you can get its loot on every LFR slot
polar tinsel
So his gear will never roll on the m+ slots of vault? After I killed him
pallid quiver
You get loot from any boss prior to the latest one you killed that week until you kill Fyrakk
lusty grotto
vault slots item pools go up as high as you have cleared on their respective brackets
even if you dont do the bosses
polar tinsel
Got it
pallid quiver
After you kill Fyrakk on a difficulty, all items can drop on that difficulty
lusty grotto
ya luerce explained it a bit better
grizzled nova
I only got 8 ephemera last week even though I did all lfr/normal/heroic and blizzard just answered my ticket after 2 days and said "sucks to suck you're a week behind now, nerd"
nice, blizzard
lusty grotto
i got 8 too
polar tinsel
Once I kill him. Can his gear drop in the m+ slots? Or only the raid slots
lusty grotto
only in LFR raid slots
if you do normal, you need to do fyraak normal for his loot to show up
on those slots
if you do heroic, same thing applies
polar tinsel
Gotcha. Thanks
grizzled nova
yeh lots of people in the thread posting about it
and blizzard actually responding "all the bugs should be fixed don't think it's a problem on our end lmao"
strong forum
i only got 6
lusty grotto
😱
dusky canopy
I also have 28 haha
Idk why I don’t have 30 when I’ve full cleared all 3 weeks but owell I guess
dusky canopy
I thought they fixed that and sent them to us in mail
dusky canopy
Same
lusty grotto
after the mail
grizzled nova
Lots of people have been bugged this whole time, I dunno what kinda of drop rate sorcery blizzard coded behind the scenes for this quest that's causing this many issues
pallid quiver
i didn't even know it was bugged because I wasn't even thinking about it
vocal nimbus
Im late to the convo but i have all 30
Only the first week it was bugged for me
But they mailed the bugged ones
Isnt the cap increased as well as a catchup anyways?
blazing condor
I got. 28 i think
sonic tangle
Check your mailbox, I found two in there a couple weeks ago
lusty grotto
i aint got shit
cosmic wyvern
my vault :(
jolly crystal
I have 30, done 3 full clears.
Does this quest actualy give anything aside from some gold?
cosmic wyvern
sims say to take pip's 🤮
lusty grotto
I have 30, done 3 full clears.
Does this quest actualy give anything aside fro...
head enchant
grizzled nova
next week we get the helm enchant, ideally
lusty grotto
next week?
cosmic wyvern
I hate doing enough keys to get 3 myth pieces from vault and having literally all of them be dogshit
cosmic wyvern
you mean in 2 weeks
its 10 per week
jolly crystal
you mean in 2 weeks
WEll, next tuesday/wednesday
grizzled nova
It'll be a pretty monster power spike for everyone
toxic pewter
wat it do anyway
cosmic wyvern
god my vault sucks, I really am going to have to take fuckin pip's
jolly crystal
wat it do anyway
Healer effect: Chance to apply brambles to target on all heals,
additional healing if broken, or vers gain to target if doesnt break
Tank effect: Abilities cast have a chance to apply a fire dot and shield you for the same amount, procced by taking damage and lasts for 12s
Melee effect: Chance of dots for ST or AoE, dependant on enemies nearby
Ranged effect: Chance of aoe instant aoe damage
cosmic wyvern
three myth pieces and two of em are helmets, one of em being a fuckin TIER helmet which is our cringe slot
lusty grotto
wat it do anyway
cosmic wyvern
actually, I still have champion boots. and, the trinket I'd be replacing with pip's would be a champion stonescales
so, do you guys think I should take the hero boots or pip's
grizzled nova
do you have a myth helm already?
lusty grotto
agreed i would take the helm
jolly crystal
so, do you guys think I should take the hero boots or pip's
If the 2, I'd go pips just cos they're gonna be much more competition for it
but a myth option would be better
cosmic wyvern
I have a hero helm with a socket
lusty grotto
helm is one of the 3 biggest stat gains in your character
vocal flame
What is it with boots today?
Good I still havent been able to upgrade mine. Hope I get those today.
lusty grotto
either is fine
strong forum
doesnt hurt to run tierhelmet.
lusty grotto
basically its crit mastery vs vers mastery
cosmic wyvern
I mean, when the difference is crit vs vers, which are pretty equal, I think I'm gonna take the tier one solely for the appearance lol
plus tbh I like crit more
vers is boring
lusty grotto
https://www.wowhead.com/spell=426288/smolderons-delusions-of-grandeur
^^^^
lusty grotto
head enchant
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
hardy snow
getting 2 rings and a cloak in m+ slot is criminal
how about two mastery necks, wrists and cloak like I had week ago
modern gazelle
Oh nice yeah I’m prob behind. I only clear heroic mostly and a few normal bosses
grizzled nova
Oh nice yeah I’m prob behind. I only clear heroic mostly and a few normal bosses
should've got the quest on the very first boss you killed in the raid
regardless of difficulty
hardy snow
jawor we're bad vault buddies
hell yeah, I like sockets, but not in 2nd vault of season
lusty grotto
hardy snow
but maybe tomorrow I will be lucky 
lusty grotto
knock on wood
grizzled nova
at least I have comfy pocket back this week
can finally burn free enchanted wyrms
lusty grotto
modern gazelle
Rings are a struggle bus. Finally got the haste/vers one from BRH
cosmic wyvern
I still don't have a flavor pocket :(
grizzled nova
I just don't want to use aspects on rings/neck at all
when I still have several hundred aspects worth of upgrades left on items with mainstat
sick sentinel
Are there haste vers/crit boots?
pallid quiver
I still have a belt from last season
sick sentinel
doesnt matter which secondary has more, but haste would be nice
pallid quiver
I saw the first plate belt I've seen this whole season in pug raid today
i lost them to someone who it was a sidegrade for
sick sentinel
from keys right
cuz everything i talk about isn't raids, unless i get it from lfr or the weekly box
echo egret
Triple Strike, can you just outrange that ?
opaque quest
i lost them to someone who it was a sidegrade for
I despise group loot so much
Sure i might have not gotten it in perso loot but at least i wouldnt go through the motion of losing an item 14 times per raid
lusty grotto
Triple Strike, can you just outrange that ?
spell block
strong forum
the sand area in fall is the only reason why you pick spellblock in that dungeon
double/triple strike
and untwist fuck
dont need it for anything else in there
strong forum
thats rise
lusty grotto
didnt know which one he meant, there's triple strikers in both
strong forum
ig
urban bane
triple strike may also fervent but im unsure. regardless yea just spellblock
lusty grotto
it does fervent
echo egret
Remind me what Fervent means ?
lusty grotto
it means if youre kiting or out of range it'll hit someone else, probably melee
pallid quiver
Damn, I got called a shit tank for getting blasted by Nym
sick sentinel
NEVER TANK AGAIN
u r garbage
and u cannot hold aggro
paper armor tank
every failed key ever
pallid quiver
got hit for an 800k threaded blast after weaver's dropped
modern gazelle
What do you swap out for sb this season when you don’t need it?
strong forum
you switch it to tough as nails
solid cargo
Not the bleed buff?
strong forum
and how do you get punish
sick sentinel
do we swap to the 4 set talent build for 2pc 2pc?
strong forum
unless you wanna remove 1 point somewhere else, you cant pick 1x bloodborne
no you dont yogi
sick sentinel
oh okay, my pwar tree is cursed atm
strong forum
you only play a different talent build with t31 4pc
if you still have t30 2pc you still play bolster
sick sentinel
i have 1 charge and 2 pc
so i dont have enough for 4pc
i think so at least
i've been doing these atm
thats what it was last night
devout basalt
What would u give up if u wanted disrupting shout
lusty grotto
bloodsurge
woven torrent
man blood dks being able to solo fyrakk is so annoying
cant get into 90% of pugs
cus all my rio is on tank and they dont do 2 tanks
😔
midnight vault
man blood dks being able to solo fyrakk is so annoying
What difficulty?
woven torrent
heroic
midnight vault
Huh. Didn’t know that was a thing.
restive scroll
got blamed for dying over 20 seconds in that nym pull
From the ray that are too green in an already way too green fight?
grizzled nova
Huh. Didn’t know that was a thing.
depends how long p3 goes, but they can solo p1/p2 just fine
ionic roost
Well your DK essentially solos it for mythic p3
pallid quiver
From the ray that are too green in an already way too green fight?
Soaks were ticking for about 70k, weaver's burden was ticking for its usual like 90k before defensives,
and i just kinda sat at that just sitting there at low HP for about 20 seconds until full bloom came out
jagged pier
Well your DK essentially solos it for mythic p3
do they cause in world first they had the same amount of stacks, melees are whatever
pallid quiver
and then full bloom hit me for about 280k and i died
jagged pier
if they were soloing in mythic bdk would have more stacks
pallid quiver
the only healing i had was a rejuv and a wild growth other than what i did for myself
pallid quiver
Yeah, I'm wagering he meant for Heroic, since Heroic Fyrakk isn't too bad with DPS as they are now
jagged pier
hc and normal whatever sure
pallid quiver
but like
prot war can handle P3 solo then, too, so
ionic roost
do they cause in world first they had the same amount of stacks, melees are what...
Scott takes 16 for liquid
jagged pier
cool so its 50/50 then
sick sentinel
grizzled nova
Scott takes 16 for liquid
Yipz is dumping nearly 100% of his hopo into offhealing p3
jagged pier
and scott does that because vipz is dealing with the seed after 4 stacks for echo they bounced the seed
cinder storm
thin spruce
ok ty
grizzled nova
what are the stat weight for prot?
haste > crit > vers > mastery, generally
40/30/20/10 split, ideally
but there isn't a massive difference so long as you're haste heavy
thin spruce
40/30/20/10 split, ideally
what does that mean?
rocky iron
%
thin spruce
(I mean not the part I mentioned, the next)
sick sentinel
typically, in a raid, you fight less targets and require to have better mitigation overall, so haste versa has a slight edge
grizzled nova
what does that mean?
40% haste/30% crit/20% verse/10% mastery
sick sentinel
crit adds to parry which adds to alot of dmg reduced in keys so its haste crit in keys
thin spruce
40% haste/30% crit/20% verse/10% mastery
yeah sorry wrong comment. I meant the other one about massive diff
sick sentinel
mastery is whatever, if you get mastery, oh well,
you dont want it, but it wont hurt
grizzled nova
yeah sorry wrong comment. I meant the other one about massive diff
As long as haste is your highest secondary, there isn't a massive difference between all the other secondary spread for either defensive or offensive purposes.
thin spruce
you dont want it, but it wont hurt
ok
thin spruce
As long as haste is your highest secondary, there isn't a massive difference bet...
oh ok. so its a single goal to haste the other are auto
grizzled nova
p much
sick sentinel
mastery isnt bad if you are just learning very new, but ya, strength and armor matters far and away more than any of that
also set armor
thin spruce
ok
rocky iron
what do i get??? it all seems pretty bad, nothing is too much an upgrade....
sick sentinel
the trinket is not very good iirc
it acts strangely and it doesnt do great dps from what im told
rocky iron
yeh sword from DOI
sick sentinel
probably swortd but sim self
rocky iron
yeh trink is c tier
sick sentinel
that or ask someone if u should take socket
rocky iron
yeh thanks
maiden ravine
I have heroic branch and heroic coiled snake in my vault, tough choice.
rocky iron
snake for sure
toxic pewter
Branch in my opinion
sick sentinel
yep, witches fight vaporized the key as theorized
plush imp
its insane how I take no damages compare to my monk
War is feeling good to play
To a point I don't know If I change my Everbloom and DHT trinket to equip Prophetic Stonescales
uneven mason
That's how warriors be
We're the mitigation tank
Monk is the save it for later and get bonus heals
river creek
Are most people running Scales as their trinket this season?
lusty grotto
no
river creek
Also is their a weak aura to help monitor to help optimize the procs from our 4 piece
lusty grotto
search wago
has one as well
cheats are situational
extremely situational
so no, its not hard slotted, its used if you need it, thats it
warm plinth
I raided 9/9 normal last week. I'm basically a professional raider now
lusty grotto
mage bitching an arms warrior is winning pip lol
warm plinth
Lmao
solid cargo
We can totally handle 17/18s at around 450 ilvl yea? Gearing up the warrior, don't wanna bite off more than I can chew.
pallid quiver
We can totally handle 17/18s at around 450 ilvl yea? Gearing up the warrior, don...
You can comfortably hit like 21s at 441
solid cargo
Say less
knotty hornet
We can totally handle 17/18s at around 450 ilvl yea? Gearing up the warrior, don...
Tyrannical yeah 100%
pallid quiver
If you do have issues, it's a play one, either on group end or yours
weak spruce
lmao im the arms who won fuck that fool
solid cargo
I figured, because I did some low keys this last week and was just sitting at ignore pain cap at all times
lusty grotto
yea f him
lusty tiger
lmao im the arms who won fuck that fool
LMFAO congrats
weak spruce
❤️
knotty hornet
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/F94B1rYJTPZp8w7a#type=deaths&fight=last
No one moved?
lmao
tbh it's a confusing ability
sick sentinel
i even said "2nd and 3rd which will (hurt) not exact word)
and then on 3rd boss i called out they were doing thorns
knotty hornet
Everyone died to "Aura of Dread"
You're supposed to move to remove it
No one removed it, everyone died to it
sick sentinel
ohhhhhhh
im starting to understa a little bit more not
fucking warlock took 5.7 million dmg some how
knotty hornet
Yeah top damage is gonna be the casts
But the killing blow was aura of dread
You have to respect the mechanic or you die
Casts are healable
sick sentinel
its how many yards to run?
solid cargo
Did that warlock die to a storming nado
And you can just jump in place and that works
solid cargo
Casters it's "cast then jump, cast then jump"
lusty grotto
yes
sick sentinel
i didnt realize you could jump
solid cargo
Yea they didn't know to move. It stacks up every like 3 seconds you stand still, does a good amount per stack.
toxic pewter
first dude seemed to have died to the bleed u get unless healer heals them to over 90%
sick sentinel
not a fun fight for hard casters i guess
solid cargo
Basically no fight is specifically fun for hard casters lol
I look at fights like time ways and think "thank god I unga bunga"
lusty grotto
no need to feel sorry for them
sick sentinel
maybe what i do, is i tell them to lust on second witch activation
lusty grotto
they had s2
sick sentinel
and then we have dps for next 2-3 cycles
sick sentinel
probably right, just that phase hurts,
lusty grotto
kick casts, target the correct one, jump when 2nd witch gets orb, pop defensives on 3rd witch
nothing has changed since BFA
modern gazelle
sick sentinel
is it the bolts on the active one
modern gazelle
LETS GO!!!!1
sick sentinel
or is the inactive witches bolts doesnt hit for as much
silent vessel
you need to kick inactive ones as well
when you have spare kicks
it greatly helps
pallid quiver
Inactive ones hit the party, active one hits you
Is a good way to think about it
If you don't need help surviving, send all kicks on inactives
sick sentinel
so, i can just reflect the active one and stack it on another one and swap to that inactive one when it goes to bolt and kick it?
solid cargo
Never kick the one casting you, reflect go brrrrr
sick sentinel
i guess protpaladin has it really easy on that fight this week lol
solid cargo
sick sentinel
i guess i can probably spell block the active ones too
like, i know they all do a seperate type of bolt, so maybe its best to use it on X witch, probably just send it on pull
solid cargo
Probably doesn't overly matter unless you're in really high keys
vivid orchid
it feels like I lost
strong forum
might of the ocean is good for arms, sandglass is just good
but yeah triple trinket from m+ vault is oof
sick sentinel
might of ocean and hourglass are both good, i would prefer hourglass from those
vivid orchid
yeah generally i'd side with the glass
sick sentinel
thats a yogi win box
strong forum
its a super solid trinket
sick sentinel
if i get that i won at wow
strong forum
but fyrakk trinkets are just better sadly
sick sentinel
i just got the haste one
strong forum
ya ok well
sick sentinel
from the tw
strong forum
sandglass is better for aoe
strong forum
rezans is in theory really good on bosses
vivid orchid
I seem to get good results from it
sick sentinel
how many stack before i SHOULD run the tree through the fire
on like a 18 to 20 normal key
vivid orchid
never
toxic pewter
i go until his melee's start to actually hurt
and his ability almost one shots me lmao
vivid orchid
thats at about ~65 on those key levels
toxic pewter
sounds about right
vivid orchid
each swing is a mythic fyrakk's p3 buster
sick sentinel
i did a 18 or 19 or 17 of wm and i had uhhh
57 stacks i think it was
that was the most i noticed
doesn't really hurt until rediculous stacks
strong forum
most people in high keys coordinate it around 30 stacks
cuz any higher and you run into danger of killing your group
sacred field
omg
vivid orchid
yea 30 makes sense theres usually a gap for the thorns
but at key level 20 ive not noticed a need to do it
sick sentinel
I know on baby keys you can farm a free achievement by just dragging him into fire at 2 stacks
he cant go above 7 stacks i think it is,
vivid orchid
12 it says
sacred field
sry for using the language
but i really need help doning 20+ oakheart
crushing blow messing me up i have bad ilv 463
vivid orchid
likely require more gear
sacred field
i was told there is a list of things that be spell reflected
subtle imp
Yo guys! Im 467 ilvl but i think My dps is quite low.. have checked rotation guides and i think im doing it correctly, how do i know how and where tô improve?
strong forum
for oakheart you want to leap away from the nightmare breath, and hold SW for the grip
strong forum
for the 2nd grip you need to pool rage and hold demo shout
strong forum
use spell reflect for each grip
for the 3rd you have SW back up
(assuming that there is a 3rd)
sacred field
does it matter if i do it before
strong forum
no if you play double SW, you can send SW on each grip
sacred field
can i do it during
strong forum
yes
you can cast during grip
you can use all your abilities
ignore pain, impending victory
sacred field
no the spell reflect
strong forum
also works yes
its just 20% magic dmg reduction for 5 seconds
you cant reflect anything but you still get the DR
sacred field
it does not reflect it the intial hit?
strong forum
no
toxic pewter
the 7100 haste limit i hear about is that before or after using a howling rune
sacred field
and sw grip
strong forum
ye
strong forum
the 7100 haste limit i hear about is that before or after using a howling rune
after
sacred field
my ilv is low im 2370 but 463
sacred field
will do i need more ilv or nah
sacred field
can i do it
strong forum
Yo guys! Im 467 ilvl but i think My dps is quite low.. have checked rotation gui...
you got any logs?
sacred field
ok thanks
strong forum
pwar dmg is pretty simple
just do
SS > TC > revenge
press IP at 60-80 rage regardless of your circumstance or unless you know better
keep up SB
and use all your offensive CDs on CD
thats the mega simple crash course
dusky canopy
toxic pewter
i feel like it is easy but also easily misunderstood how to even play the spec
its not that intuitive of a spec if i say so
strong forum
depends how well you can press buttons
like, if you can play wow well, pwar is super easy
toxic pewter
yeah thats true the high apm seems pretty punishing for a lot of people i think?
pallid quiver
I've seen more people gray parse while alive on this spec than I have while they're dead
strong forum
if you struggle with hitting the correct buttons
pallid quiver
I'm not sure what to make of that
strong forum
then its a diff story
like literal mechanical ability of pressing buttons quickly + decision making skills
then i can see pwar being hard
but in terms of pure technical complexity of a spec, its super simple
median tulip
how many stack before i SHOULD run the tree through the fire
There's an achievement for never letting it get to 12 stacks
vivid orchid
the issue being doing that at a higher level will turn your party to ash
plucky gate
I killed Fyrak on normal, but 8/9 on hc this week so my vault is 3/3 hc and i need the fyrakk trinket still can these be in there, no right?
strong forum
no
if you didnt kill heroic fyrakk ever
you cant loot heroic fyrakk loot
but if you DID kill him once in the past
whenever
you unlock fyrakk loot for vault perma
plucky gate
so even tho the normal fyrakk trinkets are heroic ilvl? they cant be in there if the vault only count actual heroic bosses killed?
plucky gate
so i guess its better to open as dps and hope for signet brand?
strong forum
thats what im gonna do yes
plucky gate
sadge 😄
strong forum
but i did kill fyrakk hc
plucky gate
but tyvm
strong forum
but chance is higher to get good fury loot, than banking on getting rageheart from vault and risking shit shields
plucky gate
yeah that seems like the better idea when you say it like that 😄
loud light
what is stat priority for prot warrior?
strong forum
ilvl > haste > crit>=vers > mastery
pale karma
Myth track Corrupted Knot (replacing champion level volcross barbed fang) or Hero track pip's badge (replacing champion gift of ursine)?
vocal nimbus
dont we open as arms?
pale karma
Always ilevel yeah?
vocal nimbus
to also avoid shitty 1h?
strong forum
well if you killed fyrakk you wanna open as fury for gholak
if you wanna avoid, then arms yes
pale karma
^
pale karma
I mean you could say that about almost everything
toxic pewter
ngl kinda think heart and augury should have a cool effect if you have both equipped like a 2 piece set bonus
pale karma
ngl kinda think heart and augury should have a cool effect if you have both equi...
that'd be sweeet
pale karma
we had gholak drop in every kill in our guild
that's obviously a small sample size. we haven't seen one.
toxic pewter
ursine won by a dps 3 weeks in a row for me oof
pale karma
ursine won by a dps 3 weeks in a row for me oof
vocal nimbus
that's obviously a small sample size. we haven't seen one.
weird, i usually read here that people see it dropping regularly
vocal flame
if you wanna avoid, then arms yes
same for m+ dungs? I thought fury was the way to go maybe it doesn't matter/
strong forum
same for m+
vocal flame
same for m+
TY!
modern gazelle
why cant people do last boss tott i swear its not that hard
stack where adds die for goop, clear goop, repeat...
winged slate
You lost me when you didn't say kill stuff
nocturne zodiac
champion serpent idol? or 480 spores? i have pretty bad trinkets.
currently using eggshell and spiked counterweight
modern gazelle
neither since both are going tobe quickly replaced
pick a gear piece and cata or just use it, or even socket
also ragefire damage is so good in m+ its doing more than my signet brand...
jagged ferry
Hey guys, hoping for some guidance! If you guys were me, what spec would you open vault in? https://raider.io/characters/us/barthilas/Skankie
I already have scales and 487 shield, so im thinking i dont need to open in prot anymore?
modern gazelle
always vault in fury or arms
fury if you need a weapon still and arms otherwise to limit loot pool
jagged pier
the max lvl tier piece
jagged ferry
Whats the difference between opening in fury and arms?
jagged pier
arms u cant get 1handers
jagged ferry
So I should open in fury then?
modern gazelle
yes if you want a weapon still
modern gazelle
kinda true tbh the weapon will 99% go to you from fyrakk
grizzled nova
hey now ppala exists as well
ashen coral
Hello, are into the fray (+10% haste) and the talent which gives +2% haste additive or multiplicative ?
grizzled nova
multiplicative with your total haste amount
pallid quiver
we are literally the only spec that wants gholaks
but frost DKs tho, they need 2
what do you mean it's unique equipped
jagged pier
its more damage on us as they get a leggo
ashen coral
multiplicative with your total haste amount
And each other ? Multiplicative with into the fray or additive with into the fray ?
grizzled nova
And each other ? Multiplicative with into the fray or additive with into the fra...
if you have 40% haste rating your total haste is 140% so 5 stack itf is giving you 14% haste
pallid quiver
its more damage on us as they get a leggo
but they can't dual wield leggo, they're not fury wars
smh jakey trying to logic over here
jagged pier
im also pretty sure 2hand oblit is better in most situations anyway or just behind so leggo just makes it better, and giving it to someone who will replace compared to someone who wont is just dumb
ashen coral
if you have 40% haste rating your total haste is 140% so 5 stack itf is giving y...
I meant, do wild strikes (+2% haste) is multiplicative or additive with into the fray ?
If i have both into the fray and wild strikes, will I get haste×1.1×1.02 or haste×1.12 ?
pallid quiver
I think Breath with Gholak is competitive, but I'm not a Frost DK body, and it's not ahead enough I don't think? On top of that
boss you're running oblit please use a 2H stop rolling on gholaks
I've had a time in pugs
novel temple
What's the thing to sim vault items
pallid quiver
Still raidbots top gear
If you grab your code after opening vault, it'd add them on to the lists
bleak breach
Frost sucks anyway, play unholy
novel temple
I also don't have addons on my laptop sooooo
grizzled nova
I meant, do wild strikes (+2% haste) is multiplicative or additive with into the...
I'd have to test it when I get home, but I would expect it's just a flat 2% haste rating being added.
before itf
grizzled nova
Yes, ITF just adds flat haste
no it doesnt
bleak breach
You sure? Mine just goes up from 41% to 51%
grizzled nova
it's a multiplier on your total haste amount
ashen coral
And if by calculation I am supposed to get 136.4 i should have 36% and not 37 right ?
If yes then it seems to be multiplicatif after several tests
And the +2% haste is also multiplicative
ashen coral
By removing my 2 rings I get +21.81% from the pure amount of stat, and with into the fray + wild strikes i get 37%
But if it was additive I should have ~136.4 so 36%, but i do get 37%, and if it was multiplicative i would get 136.67 so 137%
Therefore it is multiplicative
grizzled nova
very cool i'll take more multi haste
bleak breach
No idea what I’m reading, I’ll just continue to stack haste lol
ashen coral
Isn't fury useful to get dps trinket too ?
bleak breach
Arms is better, lower loot pool
Only need fury if you still need a weapon
If you raid at all you’ll get Gholak and only replace Gholak with Gholak
ashen coral
Okay I see
But arm gives also double yand weapon that we don't want no ?
bleak breach
But why do you need a 1h weapon if you don’t need one?
Arms will give you better odds of a trinket as you’re taking all the 1h weapons out
ashen coral
But why do you need a 1h weapon if you don’t need one?
Oh indeed you're right x)
jagged ferry
I only need a 1H which is why I’m confused haha
ashen coral
But is a 483 gholak better than 489 weapon from m+ pool ?
pallid quiver
Yes
bleak breach
Much better
jagged ferry
pallid quiver
In fact, a 476 Gholak is better than a 489 mythic track non-gholak
bleak breach
^
jagged ferry
What would you open in Sokraxx
bleak breach
What would you open in Sokraxx
I have Gholak, so arms unless I need a shield still.
jagged ferry
Based off my gear though, would you open in arms?
jagged ferry
So always in Arms for Gholak?
ashen coral
If I already have a 486 shield, should I stay in protection even if I have other stuff more underleveled ?
bleak breach
Is the shield myth track or hero?
ashen coral
It is a crafted shield for the moment
bleak breach
Do you raid much? Or just m+?
bleak breach
So always in Arms for Gholak?
Ahh no, if you’re chasing Gholak go fury
ashen coral
I do raid now but i'll never be able to do mythic raid i think
Unless the first boss maybe
bleak breach
Could maybe chase a shield in prot then? It’s really just your choice. The only difference going to fury/arms is some trinkets
But first boss in mythic drops crit haste shield, so shield from vault isn’t really necessary.
ashen coral
But first boss in mythic drops crit haste shield, so shield from vault isn’t rea...
Oh even first boss, then i should give it a try
jagged ferry
Ahh no, if you’re chasing Gholak go fury
Why fury? Doesn’t that open the pool to two handers?
jagged ferry
Okay, thank you
bleak breach
Oh even first boss, then i should give it a try
Yeah, I’ve only got hero track trinket but I’m not too worried because I’ll do mythic down the track.
Shield sorry, not trinket
bleak breach
Why fury? Doesn’t that open the pool to two handers?
Yes it does, but takes shields out and also opens your pool upto to things like Signet brand, Augury and Rezan gleaming eye
Which won’t drop in prot spec
lusty grotto
and gholak
bleak breach
Yep, that’s what we were discussing
lusty grotto
gz
bleak breach
I mean if you get really lucky this week they’ve got the quest for a heroic raid piece from 4 mythics. So you might get a heroic Gholak or Augury
bleak breach
Congratulations good sir
torn gulch
man rng is rough sometimes
bleak breach
I got 483 myth track gloves so I’m super happy.
bleak breach
I replaced the gloves, io just hasn’t updated. Then just need a better version of rezan or something different.
jagged ferry
I got 483 myth track gloves so I’m super happy.
Massive 🙂 Grats.