protection

[lusty grotto]

with around 12% mitigation

[warm plinth]

Unmitigated that is

[lusty grotto]

how are you looking at individual ticks

yeah mine was just average so its not the same

[warm plinth]

Damage taken events

[strong forum]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/yFNAQ468JxwV2Gh7#fight=5&type=damage-taken&pull=10&ability=260547&source=1&view=events&start=10651047&end=10667585

[balmy narwhal]

Do you guys know which WA it is that makes a squeaky sounds when an add is casting a spell on u

[median tulip]

I'm definitely on team "how about we just don't do that mechanic"

[strong forum]

if the key is low enough, sure

[warm plinth]

Yeah you definitely don't do it until the key level is high enough that you have to

[strong forum]

but usually 30 is the best point for your group

[lusty grotto]

yup im seeing the same

its ramping down

[warm plinth]

Yeah 30 stacks or whatever the closest is to not overlap with thorns

[median tulip]

As I say, I could handle 35 stacks in a Tyrannical +20. I'm pretty sure my DPS can kill it before it gets to 38 stacks on Fort.

[strong forum]

ive seen BDK go as high as 80 stacks

[lusty grotto]

soul thorns though, def do not scale with soul harvest

[warm plinth]

Yeah you wouldn't reset in a 20

Yeah thorns is thankfully environmental damage haha

That would suck

[lusty grotto]

ok so it boils down to the same as we did in bfa before we knew about all this fuckery

if you can tank it fully, dont reset

[warm plinth]

[median tulip]

Just as long as the Thorns don't scale with Fort

[lusty grotto]

else do an arbitrary amount of stacks that are healable (in tyr)

[shut flare]

General question. What is a more straight forward newb friendly tank. Prot warr or guardian druid?

[warm plinth]

Nah they scale with tyr

[warm plinth]

They're about the same imo

[median tulip]

Good good. Remember 3rd boss of Sanguine Depths?

[warm plinth]

One mechanic scaling with Fort, one with tur

Tyr

Nice coding blizz

[lusty grotto]

bro why did you have to summon that unholy dungeon

calm down satan

[shut flare]

still good with high keys?

[warm plinth]

I actually liked that dungeon

[median tulip]

That whole dungeon was fuckery on a grand scale

[warm plinth]

Yeah all tanks are solid right now really

[shut flare]

just want a newb friendly tank. somehting that is forgiving

[median tulip]

At yet.... it was one of the better Dungeons in SL

[warm plinth]

Mmm prot isn't really forgiving

Bear and prot paladin (also a pretty easy tank) have lots of oh shit buttons

[median tulip]

Tanking in general is not forgiving. Learn to do it right or you die.

[lusty grotto]

no thanks ill stick to mists and tos

🙂

[warm plinth]

Ppal is less mobile though because you need to stand in your consecration

[shut flare]

yeah but i hear some heals that say it's hard to tank prot wrriors cause no self healing. is that facts or foolish?

[lusty grotto]

at least you didnt say top

[median tulip]

That's a funny way to spell "Theatre of Pain and Streets of Wonder"

[strong forum]

foolish

[warm plinth]

That is completely false

[shut flare]

how is threat generation for prot war?

[lusty grotto]

(i actually liked spires)

[warm plinth]

We have a lot of self healing first of all

[median tulip]

ToP was great

[warm plinth]

And second of all, improperly played you WILL fall over

[lusty grotto]

only because of the 1 boss

[warm plinth]

But we are very tanky

[strong forum]

we dont have alot of self healing, but we take little enough dmg that our existing self healing does keep us topped most situations

[shut flare]

then what is not forgiving about prot warr? sorry just asking as a newbie not meant to cause anything

[warm plinth]

Well a lot relative to none I suppose. Not relative to other tanks

[strong forum]

you cant recover from a mistake

[median tulip]

Protection Warrior is a very very high APM spec. You have to push many many butan.

[strong forum]

if a mistake happens

you pay the price and cant just press deathstrike and say lol oops

[shut flare]

mind me asking what are the common mistakes as prot warrior? aside for pressing buttons. is it reactive?

[median tulip]

And like Nome says, we're all about the pre-planned Mitigation. We're like the Disc Priest of Tanks.

[strong forum]

common mistakes are just not using defensive CDs enough

not using spell reflect enough

playing rotationally poorly and generate little rage

[worthy briar]

yeah you get busted with your pants down prot go dead

[median tulip]

Here is how to Prot Warrior:

1. Get Angry
2. MORE ANGRY
3. TOO ANGRY TO DIE

[strong forum]

also positioning for a pwar matters more than on almost any other tank

that being said

pwar is really simple to play, and very sturdy because of our talent tree

im making it currently sound alot harder than it is

[median tulip]

The key points are to generate a fuckload of Rage and spend it to trigger Anger Management, Indomitable and Violent Outburst

[shut flare]

last question. they say if i turn around a mob it takes more damage. is this the case for all tanks? or is it becasue our "shield" effect is upfront?

[median tulip]

Oh and never ever allow an enemy to get behind you

[strong forum]

we get destroyed from hits in the back cuz we cant block those

[shut flare]

is this the case for all tanks?

[median tulip]

All tanks - and indeed all classes - can only Block, Dodge or Parry enemies that are in front of them.

[strong forum]

not as much on other tanks

[warm plinth]

Only us and paladin block but you can't dodge (bear/brew) or parry (bdk/vdh) from behind either.

[shut flare]

thanks fam. reason why i ask cause i wanna go for tanking for m+ but gotta dps on raids. roblem with DPS is there are too many. even with good io and gear they wont accept you. but easier with tanks

[median tulip]

That's a common first motivation for tanking. it's how I started out.

[strong forum]

my motivation to start tanking is other tanks just being shit

if you want a job done right you do it yourself

[shut flare]

would you say that prot warr dishes good damage compared to other tanks? cause they say there are some tanks that do smol dmg. i dont know which

[lusty grotto]

all tanks do great damage when played correctly

[median tulip]

Just... always keep your builders rolling, spend rage like crazy, remember that Shield Block and Ignore Pain (your two biggest spenders) are off the GCD, and that if you play right, Anger Management turns Avatar into a ~35s CD

[lusty grotto]

we are all closer to each other than you think

[warm plinth]

We are on the lower end this season technically but we aren't trash by any means

[strong forum]

yeah i dont think a single tank rn does "bad" damage

only bad players do bad damage

[bleak breach]

^

[warm plinth]

You can still do over 100k comfortably in any key if you play well.

[bleak breach]

Couldn’t have said it any better myself

[shut flare]

thanks fam appreciate it

[vocal flame]

hard without tier lol

[median tulip]

Yeah, variance between players is much much more significant than between classes

[warm plinth]

More in some than others ofc

[bleak breach]

I actually think T31 has simplified us because you just macro SS to IP

[warm plinth]

Probably close to 200k in everbloom pretty easily

[bleak breach]

The only active you’re really worried about then is SB which is basically on cd

[vocal flame]

What is the crit cap? i didn't see it in the FAQ

[strong forum]

with more gear you can probably break 300k in BRH and Everbloom as tank

[warm plinth]

Because there isn't one

[strong forum]

ngl

[vocal flame]

oo ok cause crit seems to be the only gear i get lol

[grim pilot]

Feels like bdk slaps more than any other tank (outside of vdh)

[bleak breach]

Yeah 100%

[grim pilot]

the damage they're doing is insane

[bleak breach]

If they didn’t give us bursting I would’ve sent it in EB last week

BDK does good aoe

[warm plinth]

You can check dungeon logs and see that all tanks are quite close in damage in pretty much all dungeons

[bleak breach]

We do more ST as far as I’ve noticed

[strong forum]

BDK does very good damage, but i think pally can also keep up

[grim pilot]

Honestly I would understand monk but I haven't seen pallies do that good of a damage

[warm plinth]

Us and druid tend to be lower than the others but we're not substantially lower

[strong forum]

idk cant judge anything yet

[grim pilot]

lemme check logs to confirm

[strong forum]

crit did 230k dps in BRH as prot

so like

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[strong forum]

its all tbd

[warm plinth]

Big dam

Bdk with Lego is gonna slap though for sure

[bleak breach]

It’s really hard to know until everyone is around 480+ and running bis gear

^

[strong forum]

i did 140k in tott with 456ilvl

so like

[warm plinth]

I'll do you in tott with 455ilvl

[strong forum]

will have to see

[grim pilot]

u mean tot on logs

not details

[strong forum]

details without aug

[bleak breach]

Yeah, I generally sit between 120-160 in m+ and don’t have an Aug

[grim pilot]

tott is busted

I hit 170k there augless

[strong forum]

dunno i only did 1 so far

[bleak breach]

Tot is busted because you pad on last boss

[strong forum]

and that was with 3 wipes on last boss

[warm plinth]

Tott and everbloom are both gimmicky as hell. And brh to a slightly lesser extent

[bleak breach]

So it sort of skews your numbers

Same with EB as stats said

[warm plinth]

Everbloom is the worst because two bosses with damage amps

[lusty grotto]

EB you also get buffed on 2 different bosses

1st and last

[grim pilot]

yeah true but the damage amp in EB is nowhere as big as in tott though

it's still very substantial

[lusty grotto]

eb last boss is 300% more damage

[bleak breach]

Could do 2-300k this week easy in EB is dps could avoid the ghosts

[grim pilot]

yeah tot is 3000% more damage

[bleak breach]

But they just love getting eaten

[lusty grotto]

i mean its still a damage amp

[grim pilot]

it is true yeah

[warm plinth]

And first boss is 200% right?

[grim pilot]

it's still cheesed to some extent

[warm plinth]

Idr

[grim pilot]

first boss is 200% during phases

[warm plinth]

Right

[lusty grotto]

100%

[grim pilot]

yeah I mean you do 200% of your normal damage

getting 100% bonus damage

[warm plinth]

Yeah sorry that's what I meant

I said it poorly

[bleak breach]

Gholak damage on last bosses of both wings in mega dungeon is insane

[strong forum]

its insane period

[lusty grotto]

never getting it

[grim pilot]

didn't notice that tbf

[warm plinth]

So obviously not really a prot question but some of yall nerds might know

[grim pilot]

lemme check how much I did

how much my weapon did*

[warm plinth]

On last boss eb, do cleave spells that do damage based on the main hit get impacted by the damage Amp? E.g. if my cleaves do 50% of my damage to additional targets, and I do 100k to boss, would it do 50k to the add or 16.5k

[grim pilot]

8% on iridk, 4% on deios - not enough iterations for me yet

they dont

when add is up

boss takes less damage too

*normal damage

[warm plinth]

Oh omwy

[lusty grotto]

the dash is correct

[warm plinth]

Okay

[lusty grotto]

the damage amp is done by the lady mage

[grim pilot]

that's one of the reasons you insta swap to add no matter what

[lusty grotto]

when add spawns, she tanks the add

[warm plinth]

You're a lady mage

[lusty grotto]

so she stops the channel

[warm plinth]

Gottem

[lusty grotto]

[grim pilot]

that and people taking fuckton of damage

[lusty grotto]

however..

im not entirely sure if you can just cleave from main boss to the flowers and get blade flurried/SP cleave for bonus damage

because at that point the big add isnt up, so the damage app is up on the big boss

[grim pilot]

Yeah me neither but I would assume not

[warm plinth]

Ideally you get no adds anyway right

[grim pilot]

Since logically the boss takes more damage itself

[grim pilot]

yes

[lusty grotto]

right, i'd be a pad at most

[grim pilot]

and you don't deal more damage

so any spell that lands on the boss gets amp'd by 300%

[lusty grotto]

you should

with how blade flurry and sp cleave work

in theory

you should

[warm plinth]

It might work for like whirlwind cleave or blade flurry

But not us

[lusty grotto]

nah not us

[grim pilot]

I cannot speak for blade flurry because I haven't played outlaw

But honestly yeah that's a fair point

Since sp deals 15%(?) damage of main target to other targets

idk you'd have to test it out

but generally it's some giga pad shit

[warm plinth]

Yeah

[grim pilot]

that doesn't work with most of the specs

[lusty grotto]

yeah kinda pointless

[vocal flame]

am i the only nub with no tier yet? lol

[median tulip]

I have 2 characters with 4pc already

[vocal flame]

daaaamn

I am holding my catalyst cause the min I use it I know my vault will drop something better lol

[warm plinth]

I'll have 4pc on war once I have pieces to convert. Have 2pc right now

No real reason to hold it. You'll get more charges lol

[vocal flame]

wish you could refund them on better ilevel pieces

haha thats true stats, maybe one more week lol

[novel temple]

I’ve had to convert high ilvl pieces to tier each time

So I’m rocking 2p/2p

[toxic pewter]

wat the deal with the bats toward the end of DHT

[undone verge]

they hurt

[toxic pewter]

I get I can spell reflect that dot thing but can I sync them up and reflect them all or wat

[vocal flame]

my old 2p was such a low ilevel that the new gear without the tier simmed for more dps lol

[undone verge]

they just spam apply them healers can dispell it

[toxic pewter]

yeah healer claimed he was 1 sec from a dispel

but i had like 3 of the dots on me i think

[median tulip]

They are kinda horrid. Prime candidates for hard stops.

[toxic pewter]

even had spell block up just for them but apparently it only can block the intitial nature damage hit

wish spell block worked against more dots 😛

[maiden ravine]

I've managed 4p on 3 chars so far, it's exciting

[vocal flame]

from raiding?

[maiden ravine]

mix of lfr and vault and catalyst

well two was raiding

[vocal flame]

oooo nice!

[maiden ravine]

but between 2 catalyst charges and KSM/AotC, 4p requires a single drop this week

[median tulip]

I still have a Catalyst Charge. Just hoping that I get a convertible Mythic track at some point. Had dross so far.

[maiden ravine]

you'll get a lot more charges as the season goes on

[vocal flame]

I still have both of mine haha. Waiting for a good piece to convert. This is my last week waiting I think tho

[novel temple]

Rip

Also, does anyone know if leech heals self damage effects?

[trim bay]

You can shockwave the bats

Then they will all cast at same time

Or leap in

[crimson umbra]

is anyone able to help me with my snap threat? I kept getting aggro ripped by a enh shammy and arcane mage in a 22 WM just now like I have avatar and demo up with shield charge and ravager already running

but it feels like even after roars ticking theyll rip threat on a mob and get 1 shot

[grim pilot]

Random guess here but maybe they're just focusing the wrong mobs?

[crimson umbra]

maybe? I cant tell honestly lol it is always mobs that I havent targeted yet and am just hitting with aoe by then

[grim pilot]

Idk how you’re pulling but I always try to tc asap and then when they’re focused just blast some cds and I haven’t really had aggro issues

Hard to tell without logs

[toxic pewter]

are you in defensive stance

[grim pilot]

I’m probably not proficient enough to tell anyway

[grim pilot]

What does defensive stance change?

[toxic pewter]

?

[grim pilot]

I’m legitimately asking so elaborate

[toxic pewter]

do a good amount of less damage so generate less threat

[grim pilot]

Outside of 5% less damage done which shouldn’t be an agro issue

[toxic pewter]

its more than 5%

[grim pilot]

Well 5% flat and 3% crit ok

[toxic pewter]

it is far from an insignifigant amount

[grim pilot]

Yeah but it really shouldn’t make up for aggro issues

[toxic pewter]

Definitely does not help to do less damage

that's for sure

[raw parcel]

Into the Fray at 5868, or need more haste?

[pallid quiver]

Pins say it starts becoming good at 5.4k haste

So you'd just want to manage shield block well and you're gaming

[teal swift]

What does itf replace

[winged slate]

Heavy repercussions

[left basalt]

looted spores from EB, made the DKs night by giving it to him /feelsgoodman

[crimson umbra]

thx bro i’ll try and log more dungeons now that I run higher keys but I was LoS pulling after the tree boss

[crimson umbra]

was in def stance definitely

[toxic pewter]

start playing more in battle stance, swap to defensive stance only if you are expecting heavy damage.. treat it like a defensive cooldown almost

you will see your threat issues will be a thing of the past

[crimson umbra]

[still nimbus]

Is there a point where breaking the old 4pc is worth it or just break it as soon as I get 2pc

[grim pilot]

grab 2p2p, but generally just sim stuff

[violet flume]

man i have like 15 runs +17 and above and i got 0 hero track gear wtf

i just want to finish my 4p

btw, the sticky that talks about proc rates for rage spenders doesn't talk about execute, do we know the proc rate?

[waxen orbit]

Parses week 3 don't matter right?

Because

my healers

committed terrorism on me

For the past 3 bosses

[novel temple]

What’d they do?

[violet flume]

my reading comprehension not the best

[polar crypt]

what gear is everyone crafting right now

[lusty grotto]

#268491842637660160

[polar crypt]

word

[median tulip]

The answer that is given in the guides/resources/faq thing is only partly true. If you have really high end gear, then it's right - but if you don't, and especially if you don't have a Shield, then crafting to fill weaker slots now may be more sensible. In the long run, with full Mythic track gear then2 shadowflame embellishments on wrists and cloak is the end objective, but don't mistake that for what will be more immediately useful for you.

[polar crypt]

yeah i went and did my shield today, was probably going to do bracers next

[lusty grotto]

i agree with zetakya

[violet flume]

yeah i crafted shield right away

then going for embel

[lethal monolith]

Just a question, I just finish leveling my prot warrior, lots of people mentioning to me wrong choice this tier. Too many magic damage going out. How are they handling it actually?
Thanks

[violet flume]

bracer cloak working well for me so far

then next weapon if im still unluck

[polar crypt]

fug em, prot is fun

spell block and reflect helps obvi

[lethal monolith]

And is it ignore pain help magic and physical as well??

[polar crypt]

Yeah

[fast knot]

You're just going to get punished a lot more for making mistakes

You can't just Death Strike or survive off a cheat death

[median tulip]

I'm sorry, I can't hear the haters over the sound of me +2 and +3 chesting M+20 runs.

[pallid quiver]

warrior's defensive kits works extremely well for the dungeon sets we have.

Most people are just shit at it, to be blunt

And if they're bad, it must be the class, not them

[median tulip]

To be fair, I'm shit at most of the other classes in this game

[fast knot]

Pwars with 4 set and actual gear not running Spell Block in my guildie's keys

[median tulip]

It's almost like I've been playing Warrior since Vannila Beta or something

[fast knot]

I tell them to yop them before they start the key but more often then not it's the gamble they choose

[lusty grotto]

this "magic damage" stigma died when DF hit and both spell block and a non-removable 25% damage reduction Spell Reflect after a reflect were introduced

but people still remember it

[median tulip]

And Def Stance.

[pallid quiver]

It was dead even before then, tbh, just required even more not being bad

[fast knot]

You still need some dps to have functional lobes involving their kicks and stops

[lusty grotto]

we have the cooldowns, its very manageable

ya d stance

[pallid quiver]

And magic damage is specifically designed to be a weak spot for tanks just in general; I remember them mentioning this way back when BFA was coming out

[lusty grotto]

it kind of is

[pallid quiver]

And we don't care about infrequent bursts of magic damage due to our CDs

we care about magic rot and bleeds

[lusty grotto]

but luckily with DF, ever single tank has a way to mitigate it

[median tulip]

Oh yeah this really is true. In my Static it's amazing how few casts and things I actually have to eat, because shit just doesn't get to cast

[lusty grotto]

👀 static

i see what you did there

[fast knot]

With organized rolling of CC it's amazing how easy the game becomes

[lethal monolith]

I was impressed with prot warriors handling physical damage from WM boss week tree boss 30+ stack but not taking any damage lol

[lusty grotto]

your xiv is leaking

[tame jasper]

Kicks in pug groups is always some kind of lottery

[lusty grotto]

you should have seen us in BFA

[median tulip]

Also, and this is little-remarked upon - towards the end of SL Blizz changed the way caster mobs work. They no longer exclusively nuke the tank; they go after the rest of the party, so "this tank is weak to magic damage" means approx 20% of what it used to

[fast knot]

I wanted to see how badly 70 stacks would hit on a +17 last week

[lusty grotto]

in that specific dungeon

[fast knot]

kept parrying though

[unkempt violet]

For tanking do I need vers or no? I have 447 crafted with vers and mastery but got a dungeon piece I can upgrade past the crafted with crit and mastery

[tame jasper]

In Dorki‘s stream (was DH I think) they took 90 😭

[lusty grotto]

90 is easy

with prot

if youre geared

[median tulip]

That boss is just kind of hilarious; I was at 35 stacks going "ok this is starting to hurt a little bit now"

[fast knot]

It's kind of a commit angle though

[lusty grotto]

[fast knot]

Flames are going to roast your nerds if you try to get rid of them

[median tulip]

Oh yeah. You either clear Stacks below 20, or you commit to tanking it no matter how many stacks it gets

[tame jasper]

So just keep tanking and hoping your dps will care about thorns (the real thing in this fight - I mean the dps care, not the thorns)

[lusty grotto]

it depends on your shield

[lethal monolith]

I would assume same with DHT tree boss grip? Spell reflect it?

[lusty grotto]

ilvl capped shield? sure

little shield? uhh you better plan to reset

[lusty grotto]

dstance, Wall, SR -> dstance, external, SR

also demo

[median tulip]

Exact stat arrays don't matter. More Stats is better stats, no matter what they are.

[fast knot]

I don't like how my hp bar disappears

All I see is the low health indicator

[median tulip]

I have a 476 Crafted right now. It's fine.

[fast knot]

and then usually I'm dead because my healer wasn't ready to immediately rescue my ass

[tame jasper]

Still dont understand the grip. I dont get to avoid it, always getting gripped. Than SW or LS but it ferls like I do somethibg wrong on that mechanic

[lusty grotto]

yeah should be fine

you cant avoid it

its a tank buster

it'll go on you

every time, unless youre dead

do this

[tame jasper]

That makes me feel better ☺️

[median tulip]

You should be able to Spell Reflect every one, and Wall every other one. In my Static I get Pain Supression for the second, Wall the 3rd... if I pug it I run Immovable Object and just Wall all of them. That's on Tyrannical week ofc. Fort weeks can just go hang.

[tame jasper]

Yeah sure I do. But I always felt like „damn I got gripped again, what dif I wrong)

[median tulip]

Also, going Last Stand and then Impending Victory while in the grip is like... 800k healing?

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[median tulip]

Good luck killing me through that, Oakheart

With PW:F on I'm at something like 1.4 million HP now, it's kinda silly

[lethal monolith]

Wow I did not know, dstance is used as one of the cooldown, I just thought it is set and forget 😂

[ionic fern]

That won't save you from the grip.

[torn gulch]

1.4m hp and the grip ticks you down to 0 in 3 ticks

kekw

[fast knot]

Ideally you stay in Battle Stance for the +5% dps and Crit chance to maximise dps and threat

only rolling into d-stance when needed

[torn gulch]

you change to def stance imediately after breath and back after grip on tree

[median tulip]

It will when Last Stand and Impending Victory are % of MaxHP

[lethal monolith]

I need to redo my key binding as prot warrior. Too many defensive cooldown 😂

[waxen orbit]

I won't say it here but I'll say it in my therapist's office

[lethal monolith]

Just curious how do people keybind as prot warrior??

[waxen orbit]

1 sec I send my keybinds before this 25 EB

[ionic fern]

Sure, what about the next 4-5 grips?

[median tulip]

I don't think I've seen more than 3 Grips yet

[undone verge]

What key levels?

[median tulip]

+20

[undone verge]

From tyran or fort? Or both

[ionic fern]

+20 is w/e.

[lethal monolith]

👍👍❤️

[median tulip]

Tyran. I only got a +18 the first Fort week, and I was Raiding all day yesterday

[undone verge]

The real question is how you hit 1.4mil hp, I’m barely above 1.2

[waxen orbit]

I have updated icons

[lethal monolith]

Fort from priest too

[waxen orbit]

1 sec

[ionic fern]

I diddn't upload the +23 DHT i did, but on the +22 i got 5 grips.

[median tulip]

Power Word: Fortitude

[undone verge]

Makes sense

[waxen orbit]

A1 is last stand, 5 is demo shout

[median tulip]

I fuckin love my DiscoBro

[waxen orbit]

Just clarifying because the icons are different

Play with an MMO mouse

[lethal monolith]

How do you shift 9

[waxen orbit]

MMO mouse

[lethal monolith]

Or alt 9

[waxen orbit]

MMO mouse

[lethal monolith]

Even 9 with mmo mouse?

[waxen orbit]

Yes

Hold down shift or alt

[lethal monolith]

Using modified key and just press

Ah ok

[waxen orbit]

Hit 9 with my thumb on my mouse

[torn gulch]

I play with an mmo mouse and it has as many as 40 keybinds on it

[lusty grotto]

i play with a regular ass g502

no mmo mice for me

👍

[shut flare]

mind me asking what is a more newb friendly, straight forward tank for begineners. prto pala or prot war?

[ionic fern]

Warrior.

[lusty grotto]

bear

[fast knot]

^

Ppal I feel like having to be the babysitter for 4-19 other idiots

and then getting slapped because I gave up a toy on a dps

[lusty grotto]

ppal is easy too, its just a bit more difficult if you want to take advantage of its utility

and of course the new tier

which might be easier to adapt as a new player

but hard for vets cause they are used to mashing consecration way too much

[lethal monolith]

How do you move or strafe ? And pressing alt at the same time lol

[lusty grotto]

by far and large, bear is the absolute idiot-proof tank though

there you go

A and D are how you strafe

[shut flare]

toy?

[lusty grotto]

or just mouse look

[fast knot]

An external/defensive, sorry I should've been more specific

[shut flare]

but is prot warrior forgiving? some say yes some say no. in terms of being straight forward and in terms of being forgiving

[lusty grotto]

no

its not

[fast knot]

If you make a mistake you're probably fucked

[lusty grotto]

youve been told its not since you asked in the afternoon

so for your final answer, no prot war is not forgiving

[shut flare]

then how is it newb friendly compared to other tanks?

[lusty grotto]

because it is easy to pick up

and not that tedious to get good at

and i already mentioned the easiest tank

its bear

[ionic fern]

I wouldn't say that prot ain't "forgiving".

Our SB up-time is stupid easy with the correct talents.

[lusty grotto]

in comparison with other tanks, it is

[ionic fern]

Idk, it's one of the more easy/peasy tanks right now to play "well enough".

[lusty grotto]

bdk, vdh, prot pala have crutches

[ionic fern]

You press SB

You gucci.

[lusty grotto]

granted, they dont take them at the highest level

but they have crutches

[ionic fern]

LS/IV are crutches enough for anyone starting tanking.

[lusty grotto]

hes concerned about dying

i would say the biggest crutch is a cheat

[ionic fern]

Just said it 2 messages ago - You press SB, you gucci.

[lusty grotto]

right learning basic AM use is tank 101

which he can pick up with ironfur as bear

but the context is dying

[limpid estuary]

Man mythic Gnarlroot cooked my ass

Me and the other tank didn’t realize the stacks don’t fall off easily like they do in heroic

Shit hurts haha

[torn gulch]

you have to take 10 stacks in mythic before you change

if i am not mistaken

[ionic fern]

Where is the context "Dying"?

From the 3 messages he posted he just asked about forgiving.

And straightforward.

Which we both are.

[lusty grotto]

well hes a new player

[limpid estuary]

First stack or two fall off in time but yeah you gotta get up to 10 stacks. I was front loading my cds too much and was getting nuked

[torn gulch]

yes my guild tanks learned the lesson the hard way as well

[ionic fern]

Sure, which in turn means he isn't going to be doing +25's right off the bat.

[lusty grotto]

agreed

im just making a wild assumption, but most people new to a role are concerned about dying

its usually an end-all-be-all kind of thing

they dont take it as a lesson etc

also if a person has asked numerous times the same question and/or related questions about a role pick, that screams that they want to be as prepared as possible

to not say something negative

[lusty grotto]

dipping into that, the answer is just to play the game and see what they like, but that would sound rude

[median tulip]

Next you'll be saying people should play WoW for FUN, Nimchip

[lusty grotto]

[fast knot]

[median tulip]

What's that quote? "Players will optimise the entertainment out of any game system" or something like that?

[lusty grotto]

lol

its kind of a shame though, cause it is a game

everyone is guilty of it, including myself

[median tulip]

TBH I think the publicity given to highly elitist things like RFWF pushes that attitude

[lusty grotto]

i think i realized that you shouldnt take it too seriously by watching arena streamers just fuck around back in the day

[median tulip]

You know what I'd like to see? A Stream of 5 complete newbies, never played the game before, got to 70 and let loose on M+

[lusty grotto]

like top top fucking players etc

[pale karma]

I think I'm going batty because I swear mobs keep strafing around me trying to attackf rom the side. Anyone else getting that?

[lusty grotto]

thats been a thing for a while

[pale karma]

Did they regress something?

[lusty grotto]

especially when you have a big pull

[median tulip]

They avoid standing on each other

[lusty grotto]

they have some sort of collision between each other

but yeah it has been a thing for a big while

[pale karma]

It happens 1:1

[lusty grotto]

like more than a couple expansions

o

youre getting the big bird treatment

[pale karma]

I think it 's worse than I can ever remember it

[lusty grotto]

yeah certain models do that

[pale karma]

Didn't notice it at all in 10.1

[lusty grotto]

crawth did it

and there was something else

[lethal monolith]

You guys motivated me!. time to gear my warrior ❤️

[lusty grotto]

im trying to remember

[median tulip]

Crawth was a dick

[pale karma]

Glad it's not just me anyway heh

[lusty grotto]

fuck i cant remember

all i know big birds do it a lot

like a whole lot

kinda has something to do with their models imo

like if youre not positioned correctly they will try to readjust

but by all accounts you ARE positioned correctly

i think proto drakes also do it

though to be honest i dont think iridrikon does, but smaller ones do

[median tulip]

Sometimes you can force them to reposition and they seem to lose attacks as they move. If you tiptoe forwards into them they will do it

[lusty grotto]

yeah but that kind of applies to all of the bosses

used to do that in vanilla for positioning

the losing attack thing not so much but the readjusting yea

[pale karma]

I noticed it a lot in the Amridrasil trash just then

I remember it in vanilla lot as well but the techniques to "fix" it don't work anymore

(like walking backwards to bring anything into a smaller frontal radius)

[waxen orbit]

Thumb on alt, fingers on movement

It's over

I'd be fine there

But

Pugs

[pale karma]

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[lusty grotto]

my dude

you dont need those hearthstones

they are toys

[onyx matrix]

Uuf

[lusty grotto]

destroy them

[pale karma]

Should start taking gold deposits at the start of runs so if anyone leaves they forfeit it lmao

[onyx matrix]

Haha

[waxen orbit]

That's so beyond rat

I would never hold people hostage for a finish

[pale karma]

Oh I meant for the one person who leaves 5 mins in not to force everyone to stay to completion beyond reason.

[onyx matrix]

I would, easily

[waxen orbit]

24 EB btw

I think I could have gotten to 200k overall

If I played better

[opaque quest]

Do you guys remember me complaining about my several PC problems? You'll never guess what it was

My handmade extension sleeve for my 24pin had a rusted cable

HOW

[restive scroll]

O_o

Never saw that

How old is it ?

[cursive prawn]

Did you buy it secondhand?

Might have been used by a guy running a water loop that leaked

[opaque quest]

Na was first hand. Made after i ordered it. Was max 2 years old

Every cable was pristine except for one that was flakey and brown

[restive scroll]

Do you run a waterloop or aio at least? x)

[opaque quest]

Nope. Air. I have no idea how it got wet lmao

[lethal monolith]

meaning you dont use the number above w? 1234

[waxen orbit]

mmm

no

My right thumb is cranked

[lethal monolith]

busy right thumb lol. meaning you can only press 1 button at a time yea?

[bleak breach]

Interesting, I did a sim and shadowflame wreath was outweighting wafting devotion for me

Was only by like 100dps

Wondering if that’s because of how close to haste cap I am? So I’m getting diminishing returns on some of the enchant?

[jagged pier]

no they are just that close

[bleak breach]

Ahh fair enough then

[azure smelt]

What should i do if i charge into pack and av is on cd so i dont have rage for shield block? Havent played prot since shadowlands

[restive scroll]

Pull on def stance and add a cd, basically if it's a big pull

(basically)

[mystic yoke]

hi there, my guild mates are telling me i shouldn't have crafted Lariat, but it was my weakest gear slot and i don't understand, surely it's good even just for stats? or am i missing something? I realise i don't have a load of gems to get it full benefits yet

[jagged pier]

u could have just crafted a normal neck

u are wasting an eblishemtn slot

and will have to recraft another neck later now

and craft another embelishment

[jagged pier]

literall charge and a SS will give u rage for SB

[azure smelt]

I did a couple keys and this maybe happend once or twice over both keys. Felt a little weird but i guess ill be more aware about it

[azure smelt]

By then youve been meleed by the whole pack once tho right?

[ionic fern]

Just pop SW.

[jagged pier]

i dont know about u but SS will be off cd by the time u get there

[ionic fern]

I don't think i've ever had such situations tho..there's always something up.

[jagged pier]

so u get iot up pretty quickly

as sb is off the gcd

u can just SS SB insta

[ionic fern]

You can also just take a look at your rage and keep ~35 before the current pack dies.

So you can SB.

[jagged pier]

^^

[restive scroll]

No worry, your dpses will pop everything asap anyway, so damage will be spread ;)

[jagged pier]

the best practice

[azure smelt]

Yea theres ways around it forsure but its just a luxary in SL that i didnt know i would miss so much

Wasnt ready for it the first time it happend

[whole flint]

Hey, i have a question. I am a bit confused and maybe i am doing things pretty wrong. I was maining Blood DK in Season 2 where you where not giving a fuck about your secondary stats. Now on Prot Warri it says Versa Haste right? But when i am simming myself (maybe there is the mistake i am simming for dungeonslice) i always get something like crit as best stat. Am i doing somthing wrong? Is it just smoother/nicer gameplay with lots of haste?

[jagged pier]

we dont care about stats

crit is equal if not better than vers anyway

and dungeon slice doesnt work for prot

[warm plinth]

Haste is our strongest defensive secondary stat and a solid offensive stat as well, which is why we like it. Crit and vers will probably both outsim haste at some point though.

But you'll probably notice that it's not a big difference

[whole flint]

Can you help me out which way to sim best? Just ST then?

I mean it works out pretty well till now i was just wondering.

[jagged pier]

3-5 targets 1-1:30 mins remove all buffs

[ionic fern]

DungeonSlice has set parameters for when how many targets are coming etc.
Our APL is not considering these things.

E.g in real life oyu might save your CD's for the next pack if the one you're fighting is about to die.

But SIMC just sends it.

[warm plinth]

@ionic fern hi ily

[median tulip]

You'll get crit as your best offensive stat if you don't have much crit. Same goes for the other stats. Haste is our best defensive secondary, but ilvl is better than anything else. More Stats always beats any particular stat array.

Just do the following: Put on your highest ilvl gear. If you have a choice between 2 equal ilvl pieces, pick the one with more Haste. Then go and tank shit. It is not worth overthinking secondary stats.

[warm plinth]

Tomorrow is last day on night shift 😱

[ionic fern]

Welcome to the world of the living.

[warm plinth]

Thanks lol

[whole flint]

Thanks i will try that!

[whole flint]

Thank you. Yeah its working so far. Got 2,6k Rating by now but as i said i was just wondering.

Thanks for all the answers.

[vocal nimbus]

To make cataclismic signet work in m+ we have to chain like with anvil right?

Wondering if it is strong with downtime on the stacks

[jagged pier]

u dont loose the stack u have 15 seconds thats plenty of time

[vocal nimbus]

Sometimes healers are stingy with the mana

[jagged pier]

yes

so they start drinking

and then u pull

they dont need ot be healing the whole time

they can tick up for a good 15seconds before needing to heal

[ionic fern]

This week kinda bad for it tho.

And so was last week i guess

Bursting/Spiteful both can interrupt drinking after combat.

[jagged pier]

but spiteful keeps you stacks as well

[ionic fern]

Je, i mean for the healers.

It's bad.

Since they can't drink instantly.

I usually spam Drink whenever a pull ends and i'm lowish on mana.

[vocal nimbus]

There are also dungeons with at least 15 secs of travel/downtime

[ionic fern]

Je, but the stacks don't drop off instantly

[vocal nimbus]

Like galakrond and the drake skip

[ionic fern]

They drop from like 15->14->13 etc iirC?

[ionic fern]

Je, definitely, can't do much there.

[sick sentinel]

is it normal for mages to take mass invis instead of mass barrier

to do such skips

i feel like both spells are equally as handy slight edge to the group bubble one

[lilac bloom]

i just tried heroic fyrrak.. that blaze is a big problem..

[jagged pier]

nope

very easy mechanic actually

ppl just stand still

[lilac bloom]

i was moving would that have caused me to get hit harder

[jagged pier]

and if they are in another blaze they move in their line

[lilac bloom]

i moved a few seconds and stood there. but also i had the frontal

[jagged pier]

u make the whole mechanic harder if u move with blaze

u can hit more ppl

hit adds

hits other ppl with blaze

[lilac bloom]

but it hits me realy hard at that point i had to use last stand or shield wall

can u reflect that or osmething

maybe spam ig pain

[vocal nimbus]

You have to reflect the frontal

Well

Deflect

[jagged pier]

thats not blaze

[lilac bloom]

the blaze got me low

[jagged pier]

blaze isnt whats hitting u ahrd

look how far down it is

on mine

i took less than my HP pool over the whole fight

[vocal nimbus]

Fyrakk shouldnt hit you hard tbh

Maybe its the stacking sot

Dot

[jagged pier]

the max hit it hit me for was 300k

[blazing condor]

yeah you can very comfortably take many infernal maw stacks

[vocal nimbus]

In p1 or p2

[jagged pier]

your equating blaze to something else

blaze is a nothing burger

[blazing condor]

having 2 Marks + a lot of stacks on the dot can hurt tho

[lilac bloom]

we tried 2/2/6 and it hurts

[jagged pier]

logs

[lilac bloom]

i wasn't able to survive long

forgot to log

:(

ill have to log if i make another attempt

[vocal nimbus]

Dunno my guild clears it with 30 ppl and it doesnt hurt

The only spike is when we drop the two elementals stacked

[lilac bloom]

it was my first time seeing the blaze

[hardy snow]

if you have lots of stacks its healers issue

[blazing condor]

this was mine

[lilac bloom]

the tank i saw had more then 2 marks

i was trying to tuant of him so do each stack

[jagged pier]

thats not how it works

u can only 1 stack in p2

u need to take double in p1

and the dot hurts

[lilac bloom]

he took it all

[hardy snow]

why fyralath's mark so high? it was 3.5M for me

[lilac bloom]

i wasn't able to taunt off a dk

[blazing condor]

yeah honestly idk

[jagged pier]

ppl are dumb with the stacks

having a tank take all the stacks is dumb

[lilac bloom]

so 2 at p1 ,, 1 of each at p2

[jagged pier]

long and short grey, blaze isnt the issue

its something else

most likely doing something wrong

but cant tell without logs

[lilac bloom]

yah i just dont know why my hp drop so low

so quickly

[hardy snow]

without log we dont know this either 🙂

[lilac bloom]

yah sorry i 4got to log

ill have another attempt again if i ever kill tindral which i can .. just need practice on what i'm doing with fyrrak

can't seem to get invite unless i have a kill

and i can't do practice if i never get into doing it

my first time trying as well

this is my talent

this is my gear

i dont know if i'm too low

[jagged pier]

u arent low for it

but your in m+ talents

for raid

[lilac bloom]

oh no

[jagged pier]

i mean your in wrong talents for m+ as well now

[lilac bloom]

thats probably y

[jagged pier]

as u have new tier set

[lilac bloom]

should be this .. this is my normal raid talents

[jagged pier]

u also ahve the trinket that depletes your haste

i dont know why u would run that

[blazing condor]

holy ui

[lilac bloom]

they are the only high ilevel trinkets i'm using

[jagged pier]

just because its high lvl doesnt mean its good

[lilac bloom]

i do have these other 2 trinkets

i looked at wowhead and gift of Ursine Vengeance is bis warrior trink

[jagged pier]

*sigh8

its bis for m+

IF

it wasnt bugged

i mean its still your best trinket out of the 4

sorry 5 u have

[lilac bloom]

thats all i have

other then old tier trinkets

[jagged pier]

u ahve branch

why would u not run that

or beacon even

[blazing condor]

can recommend branch

[lilac bloom]

ok.. branch and

?

i use old tier?

[jagged pier]

not u use ursine and branch

u use the new tier

and u update your talents from the ones in the pins

[lilac bloom]

spellblock was the ones from the pin

ursine and branch is fine?

[blazing condor]

usine and branch is good

[jagged pier]

ursine and branch are fine

[lilac bloom]

ok

ill do that

[jagged pier]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUVUgRVARpFRRBBNVUVEVBRFVYVVQCUE M+ BUILD

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUUUgJVEQpRQVBBNVUVERERVVYVVQDVRA RAID BUILD

[teal swift]

Pin 📌📌📌📌📌📌📌📌

[jagged pier]

they from the pin

[lilac bloom]

ok i try this one

but the strats for heroic Fryak and any tips for warriors

are there any

[jagged pier]

play correctly

deflect seond tank buster u take

[hazy sonnet]

i been on this discord for 5 minutes, learned so much already!
i was charging in - rend - thunder clapping. with BLood and Thunder talented 🙂

[jagged pier]

u dont need to rend ever

[hazy sonnet]

i just read that yeah 😄

[jagged pier]

blood and thunder just apply it

[ionic fern]

[lilac bloom]

ok tx 4 tipe

[hazy sonnet]

newb warrior <-- hehe

[lilac bloom]

so 2nd tank buster as in the bite?

[jagged pier]

no the big frontal in the first phases

u cant reflect a physical attack like the bite

[lilac bloom]

ok.

will do tx

and dont move for the blaze if i get targted

unless i have to move out of char ground

[jagged pier]

no okay if u have blaze

and u have to move

u move within the line

not the line itself

[lilac bloom]

thats probably y

[sick sentinel]

youtube has decided to show me dr robotnik

[lilac bloom]

i think tahts y

[hardy snow]

You can deflect frontal on tankbuster in p1/p2, it aint much, but still something

[lilac bloom]

i was in the line cos where ever i go i couldn't get out of hte line cos i got targted

[sick sentinel]

thats robotnik on his days off

[lilac bloom]

maybe thats why i die

i was like why is this line moving when i'm moving

[blazing condor]

you can always move along the line

and it wont change the line

[blazing condor]

ms paint wizard

[jagged pier]

thats how easy blze is

[lilac bloom]

yah i was targeted i thouhg no matter where i go it follows me

so i just stood in the line wihouth hhitting others

[sick sentinel]

using the actual paint brush in mspaint

disgust.jpg

[lilac bloom]

so i have to move backwards or front.. if its comming at me?

[sick sentinel]

actually, if those are done on like an ipad or something, thats pretty good

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/frustrated-frustrating-stitch-disney-lilo-and-stitch-gif-4412782

i give up

[sick sentinel]

i just prefer to use pre-determined shapes

[warm plinth]

I have a good emoji for you Jakey

Maybe you can get it added here

[hardy snow]

check the image Jakey just posted

[lilac bloom]

yah i saw that imaage

[warm plinth]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/857811723088429096.gif?size=128&quality=lossless

[hardy snow]

✅ and ❎ are on this image for a reason

[lilac bloom]

i was trying to figure how am i suppoe to dodge it.. since its targetting me.

[hardy snow]

you dont dodge it

[lilac bloom]

because i think i was standing on it.. as i have no where else to move

i eat it then

[jagged pier]

again

if u get blaze

i cant dodge

it

it follows u

your job

[lilac bloom]

yah

[jagged pier]

is to not move the beam

[lilac bloom]

it follows me

[jagged pier]

so u move without your beam

[lilac bloom]

and that beam hurts

[jagged pier]

IF u need to doge anyway

[jagged pier]

no it doesnt

we have been through this

with log proof

as i said

its something else hurting u

not blaze

[lilac bloom]

k

[jagged pier]

i have 1.2mil hp

i took 800k from blaze

over the whole fight

thats less than my hp pool

[sick sentinel]

some times these are funny, but they get old fast for me

[jagged pier]

over 7mins

its not dangerous at all

it literally cannot kill u

[lilac bloom]

hmm i have to practice more then

[jagged pier]

as it doesnt one shot dps

it literally isnt desgined to kill any spec in the game

[lilac bloom]

wel i guess i have to practice more and log then cos i'm not sure whats killing me.. hopefuly this talents and trinkets will save me

[sick sentinel]

i have just over 1 m hp

[lilac bloom]

i'm 1148 hp

got destroyed by this issue

1148k

hp

[jagged pier]

no u didnt

its not blaze

[warm plinth]

where log

[jagged pier]

literally hits for max 300k

he doesnt have one

[lilac bloom]

yah i need to know y

next time

[warm plinth]

No one logged the fight?

[lilac bloom]

i ll try again

[warm plinth]

not one person?

[lilac bloom]

no

:( its a pug

[hardy snow]

pugs often logs

[warm plinth]

I assume you already looked your toon up

[hardy snow]

sometimes even lfr 😄

[lilac bloom]

well thanks for the tips.. i'm going to try get into another fight.. :(

[glacial skiff]

Anyone macro ignore pain to tclap? I'm watching plka's clips and it kinda looks like he is

[lilac bloom]

if only i can find a group that will take me for runs

[glacial skiff]

and looking at his cast sequences from keys

[jagged pier]

im almost certain he doesnt

[glacial skiff]

Is there a downside to it?

[jagged pier]

that would be dumb

yes

the same downside as if u macro SB to something

rage starving, not enough rage for SB

etc etc

[blazing condor]

well if its only on TC you wouldnt waste rage

like if its on IP i mean

[jagged pier]

u press TC nearly as much as SS now

as u would waste rage yes

cause youll cast IP everytime u clap

[blazing condor]

well yes

but if its the other way around

like the IP / SS macro

[jagged pier]

thats not what he asked

[blazing condor]

u right

misread

[sick sentinel]

waycrest with a group with at least 20 iq is the best dungeon ever made

in recent years modern wow at least

[vocal nimbus]

Whats our prio in execute phase with tier

Is it better to not execute in order to fish tier procs with IP?

[jagged pier]

u execute if u haver free globals

[hazy sonnet]

those small corridors, PTSD triggerd

[tender tulip]

is there a soft haste cap? around 7k or something?

or is it more of a % thing? cos into the fray only adds % right on the char screen

[vocal nimbus]

Itf is better the more haste you have

Because its a flat increase without dr

Just sim gear and dont think too much anout the numbers

[tender tulip]

i have 6.1k without any buffs etc. gets to about 7k cycling with the sandglass, thinking to go more into mastery/crit now than haste

just wondering if there's a set %/number for 100% SB uptime, or if you just gotta wing it a bit 😄

tbf it's not like i die often unless i make a mistake myself, but i'm also not pushing high keys atm so probably doesn't matter too much 🙂

[warm plinth]

You don't stop stacking haste until you get to 7.1k unbuffed.

[tender tulip]

hmm

i might have just wasted some gems then 😄

[opaque quest]

My sim said go for crit/mas ring

For 500 st dmg

But i have 6600 not 6100^^

[tender tulip]

hmm, i can just change a neck and get to 7.2k

but i did just put gems in it 😄

[opaque quest]

Dw about it. If you only play M+ and dont chain pull everything youre fine

Since you can just recharge a second or 2 between packs

[sleek current]

I'm still getting above 90% SB uptime with only 5.2k and I said fuck it and took ITF anyway. 😂 Not sure the relevance though.

[opaque quest]

7.1 is only really needed for raiding where you take dmg all the time

But even then you got an offtank that can let you recharge

[jagged pier]

what u dont take damage all the time in raiding

u do in m+

[opaque quest]

In M+ you can recharge between packs

[sleek current]

I can't. Time spent not in a pull is time wasted. Haha.

[opaque quest]

Ye i chain pull everything too

[jagged pier]

u dont need to wait in m+ u should be managing your resources

u shouldnt have down time on SB anyway

[sleek current]

Only difference for me I suppose with T31 is I can't stack 24 seconds of SB. I will see you again, one day bolster.

[opaque quest]

[drowsy mango]

guys, my cloak is a big weak point in my gear. i have two sparks

[opaque quest]

You should craft cloak first anyways

[drowsy mango]

sporecloak still good or nah?

[opaque quest]

Cause embellishment

[sleek current]

Nah

[opaque quest]

Sporecloak is shit

[jagged pier]

no sporecloak isnt good

but u should be crafting a cloak with shadowflame anyway

[ionic fern]

Craft cloak with Shadowflame on it.

[drowsy mango]

so what cape? sorry i'm new

ohhh ok

[opaque quest]

Something something shawl

Wildercloth?

Check the crafting station and put shawl into the search bar. There will only be one

[drowsy mango]

yep got it, thanks heaps guys

[warm plinth]

Yes, sims are for damage, so that makes sense.

[opaque quest]

For 3k more deepz more better

Cause dps more bad

[bleak breach]

Finally got Gholak

It’s slappin

[ionic fern]

"Finally"?

Isn't it like 2nd week?

[jagged pier]

yer

well actually week 3

[ionic fern]

I can't wait to ever get it.

Like i never got Forgemasters.

[jagged pier]

nither

[vocal nimbus]

In yesterdays reclear

Fyrakk dropped 6 weapoms

[opaque quest]

Got my gholak week 1, used it for 1 day then got HC 2h on my DK

[vocal nimbus]

2 gholaks 2 maces and the 2handers

[opaque quest]

For me Fyrakk always drops 10 curios and i win zero

[bleak breach]

Had to argue with a fury war for it who rolled need for offspec though

But because they can use 1h won it

[drowsy mango]

the embellished bracers are the primal molten ones yea?

[blazing condor]

ye

[drowsy mango]

thank you

[blazing condor]

if you're not first you're last old man (i dont get anything in raid)

[sick sentinel]

do we launch sod under classic or im not sure

im not sure if its like 1 server has it

[blazing condor]

https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/how-to-play-season-of-discovery-336456?webhook

[sick sentinel]

oh, so its not for a while yet

[opaque quest]

SoD might be the point where my classic hating ass might give it a shot

Probably not tho

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFRhUXeoNNE

probably me

[sleek current]

I got Gholak on Champion track, suspect I may be waiting a while to see it on hero. 😂

[opaque quest]

Losbby is the man. The only french person on this planet that knows french arent perfect and are just as bad as the rest of us

[opaque quest]

still bis youre chilling

[sick sentinel]

we have french quebec here

they are different but its whatever

[opaque quest]

Are they? Thought canadian french is just french

[sick sentinel]

some of them are part native indian french mix

its, i cant describe the type of person that person is, you have to see it to believe it

french canadians are very loud and expressive

[opaque quest]

Just like normal frenchs then. Playing with them in online game is rough

[sick sentinel]

its, i have no words for it

[ionic fern]

Yogi my man

Stop with the random YT videos.

I've asked you multiple times by now.

[opaque quest]

We europeans are special