protection

[woven torrent]

😡

it's real hard to adapt to using ST spells in aoe

coming from dps

[cinder nova]

I've literally been playing wrong the entire xpack

I do not deserve even half the M prog I bagged

Shadowlands did things to me

[undone verge]

Execute feels so bad this expansion. They need to reverse the nerfs they gave it in beta

[lusty grotto]

never too late to learn something new lol

it does feel bad

[cinder nova]

Honestly.

[woven torrent]

erm

[cinder nova]

I want Exec to blast again

[woven torrent]

are we not suppposed to use execute

😭

[lusty grotto]

we are, its just dead last in prio

[cinder nova]

You just exchange it for Revenge at 20%

[woven torrent]

oh yeah

i mean like at 20%

[lusty grotto]

☝️

[woven torrent]

if boss doesnt hit hard

i start executing instead of IB no?

[lusty grotto]

NO

[cinder nova]

I was living in S4 SL with bannergang where Execute was basically your only button outside of big CDs and SS

[woven torrent]

or do u still ib for almost guaranteed set

[lusty grotto]

if by IB you mean IP

no

[woven torrent]

oh ye mb

[cinder nova]

Execute phase doesn't shift any of our skills on priority

Just swaps Revenge for Exec

[lusty grotto]

IP is off gcd, you still do it when youre about to cap rage

[woven torrent]

oh ok

so ive been doing it wrong too LMAO

[lusty grotto]

rev/exe are just SS proc fishers

[woven torrent]

the logic in my brain just tells me

aoe spell for aoe
execute spell for execute prio

[cinder nova]

You'd think they'd make the big 20% EXECUTE button our best button at that point.

But I guess blizzard hates PWarr ramping

[woven torrent]

i dont wanna learn raid bosses tanking

but i hate using the new set on fury man..

[cinder nova]

This raid is easy.

[chrome falcon]

ok is this stupid ursine vengeance trinket good

i've heard so much about bugs/sims being wrong

[jagged blade]

Raid boss tanking is easier than mythic+

[cinder nova]

Yes*

*but it's bugged

[lusty grotto]

its good, its bugged, but you still get STR stacks

[jagged blade]

"Learn" just taunt swap when the robot lady tells you

[lusty grotto]

you just wont reliably hit 30 stacks because of the bug

[cinder nova]

There's more to it than that, frankly.

[woven torrent]

oh wait

[cinder nova]

How you position in some fights can make it a world easier.

[woven torrent]

i never played tank ever in raid

bigwigs tells u to actually swap

lel

[jagged blade]

Exactly dudeee

[cinder nova]

I wouldn't solely rely on BigWigs/DBM

[woven torrent]

ye ofc i just thought i'd have to always track it and it'd be a pain

in heroics

[cinder nova]

I mean, you do. Some fights it's pretty fast swaps

Not many though

M Volc jaws kinda fast

[jagged blade]

Yeah I'm being silly you need at least a couple IQ points sometimes

[cinder nova]

Like a lot faster than H and way faster than N

It sneaks up on you. I haven't missed one yet, but when I taunt and he hits almost immediately after the GCD

I'm realizing that it's dummy fast

[restive scroll]

The only difficulty of tank raiding is surviving sometimes.
So basically, when you're understuff.
Maybe in some mythic fights

Maybe some positionning, but you have to do that with all classes, don't you?

[cinder nova]

When all your DPS overlap you with the bombs on gnarl

[uneven mason]

Give us a execute interaction like arms

[cinder nova]

Oh, like SS making it a big single hit

[uneven mason]

Yeah

Like ss increases the damage of your next execute

[restive scroll]

Btw, did I dream it, or wasn't SS dispelling effects once upon a time

[uneven mason]

Until wod

[restive scroll]

Thought so, thanks

I miss that

[uneven mason]

Used to dispell 2 magic effects

[restive scroll]

that was damn nice

[hardy snow]

[uneven mason]

Blame gladiator stance

They removed the dispell from SS because gladiator warriors could kill ret paladins through bubble with it

[restive scroll]

xD

[uneven mason]

Not even kidding

[restive scroll]

Sounds fun to me :p

[uneven mason]

Glad on WOD release is the largest nerf overreaction in wow history

They dropped the damage by like 40%, removed the dispell and had them take more damage

Almost killed prot as a spec

[chrome falcon]

sorry what's the bug

[uneven mason]

Stacks drop randomly

Before reaching crescendo

[raw parcel]

Tried a key without cheat death. BRH spiders murdered me. ;~; But other than that, probably a net gain. DPS was way higher than usual.

[pallid quiver]

stacks just kinda fall off sometimes

You can sometimes never get full stacks, can sometimes work, fine

So it's still pretty decent, but not as strong as it sims

[uneven mason]

That's a dispellable debuff

[jagged gust]

BRH you just gotta keep your ass glued to the healer and hope they dispel quick enough

[uneven mason]

Also dwarf

[raw parcel]

Yeah, but pug healer didn't dispel it and I'm not a dwarf.

[jagged gust]

Dwarf is a huge dps loss, and by dps I mean transmogs

[raw parcel]

My first 60 was a dwarf, back in early 2005. Before I had any taste. I didn't realize how fugly he was.

[lusty grotto]

traitor

[raw parcel]

I had to take him behind a barn and put him down like a balding, ginger Old Yeller.

[pallid quiver]

I think there's someone with an incorrect opinion around here

More than a few, even

[jagged blade]

U are so foolish for calling dwarves ugly

[lusty grotto]

100%

have fun with bleeds then

[raw parcel]

All about that human master race.

[jagged blade]

Learn some transmog sweaty 💅

[lusty grotto]

have fun with bleeds captain bleeding

[jagged blade]

Visuals carried by the WoW dev team to surgically attach every piece of armor to your bones

Let your beard flow.. it's that shrimple

[uneven mason]

Literally only alliance race worth looking at

[jagged gust]

highmountain tauren not being alliance was a huge miss

[plush tendon]

Dwarf is cool, but it does get boring a bit quick ngl

[raw parcel]

As opposed to the Horde's selection of giant, fugly, furry monstrosities? ...and blood elves, who are like 80% of the faction.

[grim pilot]

Their dance is goated

[plush tendon]

and limited great tmog options

[grim pilot]

Best dance in the game

[plush tendon]

though it looks steller in some

just dont be surprised when CE guilds are asking their raiders to 'seriously consider' going Dwarf for Fyrakk prog

[jagged gust]

It's not the belf's fault they're beautiful and the only horde race who isn't a literal monster

[grim pilot]

No way ce asks that xd

Regular ce guild

[jagged blade]

All u have to do as a dwarf is not put giant bulging pieces of metal on your chestpiece and then you look cool

[plush tendon]

already a third of more of my raid are dwarf for keys and such

[uneven mason]

Most monstrous race on the horde

[raw parcel]

Blood elves saved the horde. Anyone who thinks otherwise didn't play back in the day. Way more alliance than horde because no one wanted to play a fugly hunchback or a cow.

[plush tendon]

the race is actually broken in PVE content

I wouldnt be suprised if they get the arcane torrent treatment next expac

[lusty grotto]

i dont think it'll matter

[jagged gust]

Ally's can have their fun in the sun, horde had their glory days with orcs and trolls being OP for long enough

[uneven mason]

I mean nelf are more broken

[lusty grotto]

as long as people keep paying for race changs, dwarves and NE racials will remain in the game

[uneven mason]

But not for tanks

[lusty grotto]

and they will keep making bleeds

[plush tendon]

well its not just bleeds

its everything

[lusty grotto]

right

[uneven mason]

Orc racial would literally get you killed

[raw parcel]

Oh yeah? Well... I can break out of stuns, so.. there.

[plush tendon]

plus the 2% crit damage

[lusty grotto]

garbage

[plush tendon]

I like human; and human spirit is very strong in its own right

and diplomacy is

[uneven mason]

Course NGL, I have a warrior of every race

But the gnomes

[jagged blade]

Thinking of rerolling as dwarf just for the magnificent beard 💪

[jagged gust]

female gnomes are probably the best thing that happened to this game, whenever I get transformed into one from that toy the battlecries she makes have me crying

[uneven mason]

They better give dwarven women beards in the next xpac

[pallid quiver]

The new dorf women do have beards

there was female dorf models they showed that did

[plush tendon]

the beard is great

and the new storm hammer off the trading post

[uneven mason]

Earthen

[uneven mason]

Yaaas

[jagged blade]

Exactly, it's dwarf season baby

[plush tendon]

my war is gonna be siq af boi!

[jagged blade]

I'm afraid to leave my orc heritage armor behind tho

[raw parcel]

Know what else is great? Not being a stubby little manlet.

[jagged blade]

The chest and legs for orc are too good..

[plush tendon]

Orc is cool for warriors

[uneven mason]

I already got my gryphon rider xmog all setup, just missing the hammer

[jagged blade]

And the belt for orc heritage

Holyhh

[uneven mason]

Orc ladies are the best looking model in the game

[plush tendon]

true and real

[plush tendon]

you know what the problem with the human model is? equip a 2h and get in your attack stance and look at the hands

[raw parcel]

Night elf women are and have always been the best. Alright, they doing work making purple worthwhile as a color.

[plush tendon]

or better yet, what the heck is the sword and board stance?

actually tilts me

[uneven mason]

Purple has been the greatest color since 1983

[jagged gust]

I can't do orc males with their permanent gamer neck

[uneven mason]

Can upright?

[jagged gust]

Is that an option now?

[jagged blade]

They r pretty damn good.

[uneven mason]

Since uh..warlords?

[raw parcel]

Think about it. What's keeping purple's price up in the stock market?

1. Roman Emperors dying their jimjams purple.
2. That Prince song.
3. Night elf booty.

[jagged blade]

Since late legion

[plush tendon]

I wont lie.... i simp hard for fem night elf

[raw parcel]

If I had a wish on the Dragon Balls, bro. Don't want immortality, want a real life night elf girlfriend.

[plush tendon]

Female Blood Elves and Nightbourne aint the same as the OG

[uneven mason]

Just date a WNBA player?

[cinder nova]

I don't think I've ever commented on topic of discussions in PWarr, but holy shit please do not let us descend into goonery

[raw parcel]

It's not the same! No glowing eyes, skin ain't purple, no gigantic ears.

[plush tendon]

the disrespect

[cinder nova]

Listen, if her ear can't fill my mouth like a prison wallet, don't even talk to me

That you?

[raw parcel]

https://tenor.com/view/night-elf-world-of-warcraft-tyrande-gif-11301450

Yes.

[cinder nova]

Ban em.

[raw parcel]

Illidan simped for 10,000 years. And I get it.

[cinder nova]

Illidan is a jabroni

[plush tendon]

Actual factual

[cinder nova]

Didn't just simp, he full-on orbitted

[raw parcel]

Well his gaggle of wannabe cosplayers are currently beating us. Which does make me legit angy.

[cinder nova]

Imagine orbitting for 10,000 years

[plush tendon]

but still.... I get it

[uneven mason]

??

[light dune]

bro turned himself half demon then wondered why tyrande didnt go out with him

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/andy-samberg-more-mashed-potatoes-prison-prisoner-gif-9973983
Illidan in confinement making mashed potato Tyrande figures

[raw parcel]

Look at the numbers, friendo. It's just facts, VDH needs a battering from the nerf bat.

[plush tendon]

eh, I would say a bat

more like.... I little squirt in the face with a water filled windex bottle

[uneven mason]

They're literally 0.17 keylevel above the top pwar?

[cinder nova]

I think he means damage-wise.

They are ahead of us in ST

[uneven mason]

Their kit revolves around surviving through damage, that's ok

[raw parcel]

Yeah, but the top pwar is pretty lonely up there, surrounded by Illidan cosplayers. Or was last I looked.

[cinder nova]

It's by about 20-50K depending on the fight.

I think the lowest gap is around 10K

[plush tendon]

tank balance is very fine overall

tank meta is gonna be 90% decided on dps and healer meta

[mild sorrel]

Let’s all just boycott pwar and maybe blizzard will see the next meters with zero of us on it.

[jagged gust]

Havoc is the true outlier

[chilly brook]

Honestly who cares just play what you want to play

[median niche]

should you upgrade your item before you make it into tier or does it not matter?

[cinder nova]

Because it feels poopoo putting in extra work to do 3/4ths the return.

[chilly brook]

Doesn’t matter

[plush tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/science-wise-monty-python-who-are-you-gif-13606581

[raw parcel]

I do. That's why I'm playing a prot warrior, because real men bring giant shields into a dungeon, not fel-green booty shorts.

[chilly brook]

Then don’t

[median niche]

pinky swear?

[chilly brook]

Yes

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/you-dont-want-to-do-that-jubal-valentine-fbi-i-dont-think-you-should-be-doing-that-dont-do-it-gif-25960309

[median niche]

prostate swear?

[cinder nova]

I don't feel like "INT your raid group" is a reasonable response.

[chilly brook]

How is that me saying int your group

[cinder nova]

We can all be here to play PWarr, sweat as hard as we can, and still have valid criticisms of how much damage two notable outliers are doing simultaneously.

These are mutually exclusive concepts.

[chilly brook]

If you feel inferior for playing something that requires more effort for less results then play the thing that doesn’t

[cinder nova]

It's not a matter of feel, it's a matter of data lol.

[chilly brook]

You misunderstand

[median niche]

so you can upgrade the item after you made it into tier?

[chilly brook]

If said data bothers you

There’s a simple solution

[raw parcel]

Yes.

[cinder nova]

Matt just out here only taking nuclear options.

[chilly brook]

Yes I woke up and chose violence today

[cinder nova]

No, just chose to make clownshoes retorts.

[raw parcel]

One can think that there is a balance issue, and comment on it, while continuing to play the spec they enjoy rather than the flavor of the month.

[cinder nova]

"reroll" is also kinda a goofy take

[jagged gust]

S channeling their inner Jordan today

[chilly brook]

Brother I’m just tired of seeing it

We literally see this shit every patch

[plush tendon]

when you reroll, you get the VDH leap into pack and get insta one shot memes

[cinder nova]

I dunno, it wasn't this big of a difference S1.

Then again

[chilly brook]

Because S1 people erroneously said we were meta

[cinder nova]

Yeah, I was gonna say.

Even though PPal was sleeper

[jagged gust]

erroneously lmfao

[cinder nova]

It was blasting

[chilly brook]

It’s true

Prot pally was better

[jagged gust]

nah, meta is meta because the people say it is

[chilly brook]

Well there’s perception and what actually develops

[cinder nova]

To be clear, Matt, I'm not saying we gotta be top - or even top 3 - lord knows I could give a fuck as long as we haven't hit Survival hunter levels unplayable, I'm gonna be a warrior.

[chilly brook]

We fell off throughout the season and pally rose to the top

[cinder nova]

But seeing gulfs of damage disparity is annoying

For all the same reasons people are stink-eyeing assassin in ST and Havoc in M+

[plush tendon]

I know Ass ST is strong, but isnt there a problem in Warcraftlogs and Ass+Aug?

[cinder nova]

Is there?

[plush tendon]

something to do with not correctly allocating damage

idk, I dont play rogue

and aug evoker is a tragedy of a spec that should be sent to the shadowrealm for all I care

[cinder nova]

the real question is why didn't this MW cleanse or tiger's me with 12 stacks of dreadpollen on a 21

[plush tendon]

prob doesnt know he can

or is unaware of what the dot does

[chilly brook]

Assassination kinda fucks in m+ too tbh

[cinder nova]

Don't they need resets

[plush tendon]

yea, our Ass one trick is loving this patch

[cinder nova]

I hate rogues that need resets

[chilly brook]

Idk

[cinder nova]

Feels dookie breaking flow just to let them reset

[lusty grotto]

wasnt resets just sub

[cinder nova]

I know it's more damage

but fuck I hate it

I just had one ask me for resets

[lusty grotto]

and nobody is playing sub

[chilly brook]

Not true entirely

[cinder nova]

And I told him I can reset on boss but this week we can just press W

[lusty grotto]

what spec is he

sin?

[cinder nova]

Yes.

[lusty grotto]

i havent reset for sin since the season started lol

i thought it was just sub tbh

[cinder nova]

You get the rare one that asks

most just cope

I almost permapug so

[terse spoke]

ehhh random prot war with this embelish should i tell him?

[lusty grotto]

no

dont tell people if they dont ask

youre not here to dictate how they play

moreso if theyre not asking for it

keep it to yourself

[dusky canopy]

Jokes on you bud that Prot war is 100% hp 99% of the time in his level of keys

[chilly brook]

I mean honestly it’s in your best interest to let them get a reset

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

i see, thx griff

so its just sin and sub ?

no outlaw?

[chilly brook]

Idk about outlaw

Was gonna relevel a rogue because talent changes

[lusty grotto]

its not a good week for rogue resets anyway

you might take way too long for it depending on if youre killing spites or not

[chilly brook]

Yeah this week it’s a tough luck angle

[grand veldt]

sin is the only one with that ability i thought

with garrote silence

[terse spoke]

@lusty grotto i wasnt gona tell him i just thought it was pretty funny to see that^^

[lusty grotto]

right

[terse spoke]

it was meant as a joke

[lusty grotto]

its just the consideration for rogue resets that im listing

[grand veldt]

i like playing with rogues because keeping threat on DH without tricks is actually so awful

every pull im burning heroic leap to reset taunt

actually the most annoying shit on earth

[chilly brook]

You know

[chrome falcon]

holy

just got fyrakk 1h and trinket

same kill

it's gaming time

[chilly brook]

You’d have less problem holding threat if you didn’t play defensive trinkets and didn’t play defensively

[chrome falcon]

what's our enchant for dps btw

wafting?

[lusty grotto]

wafting for both yea

[hardy snow]

fyrak normal XD

[grand veldt]

Im running only 1 defensive trinket the other is that vers str trinket from BRH

but if i got augery or rageheart id use it

[nova vector]

Coming to ask if anyone can link to a weak aura that tracks fervid bite procs? Thanks!

[grand veldt]

im sure it exists but it makes an audible noise too

[real fossil]

theres one pinned

[lusty grotto]

its in #268491842637660160

[real fossil]

it happens a lot, i've had to kind of change when i cast ignore pain so i dont munch procs

[grand veldt]

ill refresh rend with TC even if slam is up

[nova vector]

Thanks!

[grand veldt]

if i hear it proc right after a previous one

seems like a pointless proc if my target doesnt have bleeds on them

that and with 4 pc i'll fucking spam hit other targets

[lusty grotto]

uhh

[grand veldt]

munch up as many TC procs i can

[real fossil]

lol

[grand veldt]

just extra 2s on cdr

[lusty grotto]

your targets will have bleed on them

cause devastator applies deep wounds

[grand veldt]

yeah but you have to clap

for rend

which does a lot more than mortal wounds

[lusty grotto]

right

[jagged gust]

I know this is/was the case for pet classes, you could fudge the hell out of logs by accident

[crystal mauve]

Sorry to go back to your old comment but I just want to make sure, we go full haste all the way then? even with 7800+, correct?

[jagged gust]

no

7100 is your hard cutoff, but you lose value over other stats well before that

[plush tendon]

his name is very clear of where the haste cap is

[crystal mauve]

yes but it's not what he was saying earlier, so I'm a bit confused :/

[lusty grotto]

you dont have 7800

you will never have 7800

[livid pecan]

What's BiS, gang? I'm lazy and Wowhead and Icyveins disagree.

[lusty grotto]

check #268491842637660160

[crystal mauve]

True, I have 7798

[lusty grotto]

youre buffed

with ITF

[crystal mauve]

I'm not (not even talented to take the picture) and it doesn't change the score

[livid pecan]

Yeah it says there is no BiS. Let me rephrase. Should the four piece tier be no helm or no chest?

[sick sentinel]

is there a trickto avoid the timeways balls esier

[lusty grotto]

SANDGLASS

[sick sentinel]

i think its you wait for the ones to go in the gold and you go in the gold then until the other slow ones pass

i keep sticking in the slow part and get smacked

[crystal mauve]

Look at my equipped trinkets, no sandglass

Sorry I don't mean to argue or anything I'm genuinely trying to know what to do with all that haste and if this is correct :/

[livid pecan]

I have to decide which of my Myth vault pieces to convert to tier and there's disagreement on the sites.

[lusty grotto]

youre hitting the first softcap, thats not your real rating

[crystal mauve]

My neck is not the same

[chilly brook]

huh?

it looks pretty genuine 7700 haste to me...

[lusty grotto]

its not

[chilly brook]

how is it not?

[lusty grotto]

fuck you guys are gonna have me load up the goddamn game

cause there's a softcap

that you hit pretty early on

[chilly brook]

yeah 40%

well technically 30% first softcap

[raw parcel]

I heard that some people go counterclockwise when the balls come out and easily avoid them by sort of running into the hollow they leave behind?

[sick sentinel]

thats almost the same as your transmog

[chilly brook]

the hit box is massive on the boss you can be so far away from him

just dodge

[lusty grotto]

https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/true-stat-values

[sick sentinel]

i need another back piece but tldr its a pain in the ass to farm cuz there is another mob u can make at the same location and it also has a 1% drop rate, the other mob has a 1% drop rate for the clean version of the back pack

[raw parcel]

I use Titanic Onslaught, it's my favorite set 😄

[lusty grotto]

install that dadou, also yes my information is correct

[sick sentinel]

whats the deal with if you get to close he pushes you away

and i have to be in melee or she melees others?

i hate that boss

[crystal mauve]

Will do now!

[crystal mauve]

Here is waht I see now!

Because I'm loosing 390haste, should I just put those stats somewhere else then? Use a different ring/neck?

[lusty grotto]

OH

[dusky canopy]

I would sim

[lusty grotto]

its cause you have engi helm

i see now

[crystal mauve]

I do indeed

[dusky canopy]

Oh shit engi helm is smart can you put Brez on it?

[lusty grotto]

its double haste

like bracers

[crystal mauve]

Exactly, I run with almost no one that can res so I'm on BR duty (it bad but I have no choice)

[dusky canopy]

I’m probably going to do that too at some point haha didn’t even think of putting Brez on helm

[crystal mauve]

Since helm tier set is bad and I needed it ... It worked ok, maybe I should change the stats on it for something else than haste tho?

[uneven mason]

Why wouldn't you want haste?

[toxic pewter]

actually good idea i also will do engi goggles next week

[lusty grotto]

cause hes hitting the cap

[crystal mauve]

I'm loosing about 390secondary with all that haste

[uneven mason]

[crystal mauve]

So I'm wondering what should I do

[toxic pewter]

crit it up baby

big dam

[crystal mauve]

And I'm here looking for help :3

[uneven mason]

Critsquad

[crystal mauve]

Cause I'm no big brain

[toxic pewter]

just throw crit on it and call it a day

unironically

[lusty grotto]

can probably unload haste on gems

[uneven mason]

We're all

[lusty grotto]

big crit little haste

would be simpler

[real fossil]

crit vers gems ooooo

[crystal mauve]

Crit/vers them?

[lusty grotto]

i guess it would help to sim

[nova rover]

that back is amazing, where do you get that?

[crystal mauve]

Do I just sim single target 5 min?

[lusty grotto]

no

depends on the content you do

[raw parcel]

Second that question

[lusty grotto]

single target is 3 mins with lust

[crystal mauve]

Mostly M+

[lusty grotto]

5T 1.5/1 min no lust

[uneven mason]

Dungeons lice

[lusty grotto]

no

no dungeon slice

it doesnt work with our APL

[uneven mason]

Not working

Boo

[lusty grotto]

or rather, our APL isnt optimized for it

[hasty dagger]

with 4pc in keys what should we have thunderous roar down to

[dusky canopy]

Oh wait hold up

Engi helm only 486

[lusty grotto]

yea

[dusky canopy]

Can’t do it.. F

[lusty grotto]

yup

but its his decision so

🤷

[dusky canopy]

Maybe I’ll have it for like a incase situation

[crystal mauve]

You gotta do what you gotta do for the team :/

[dusky canopy]

But def going flavor pocket next

[lusty grotto]

rather have bracers brew

honestly

[hasty dagger]

how often do you guys have thunderous roar in keys with 4 set

[lusty grotto]

sac an SF at most than go under 3 ilvl on one of the three pieces that have the highest number of stats

being helm/chest/legs

[sick sentinel]

https://www.wowhead.com/item=184154/grungy-containment-pack

heres how u get it

[dusky canopy]

Forget that I killed that damn slime at least 30 times

[nova rover]

oohh

[raw parcel]

Thanks. Guess I should consider visiting Shadowlands for that.

[nova rover]

Thank you 😄

[sick sentinel]

and then there is a version where it is steel metal color silver

[lusty grotto]

about a min cd

without uproar

like 40s with

[sick sentinel]

the second one the clean one i call it

[lusty grotto]

slightly more than a minute

[sick sentinel]

is way harder to get im finding

apparently, you have to either spawn 1 guy and farm him over and over and over, or , you farm another till it gives a starts a quest thing

thats what my preliminary scans for farming them showed

[grand veldt]

They're both pretty awful to farm tbqh

I've been trying to farm it the past couple weeks with like 6 characters

[raw parcel]

Is Uproar worth running with 4 pc?

[crystal mauve]

So the sims is trying to keep me under the -20% penalty threshold then max out crit/vers. It seems that the sweet spot is around 6630 of haste score. Not sure if it's better to stay alive but in terms of DPS it is what it's showing

[lusty grotto]

sims dont take into account defensiveness

it should take into account SB uptime though

so it is kind of accurate

it depends if you will have SB available or not due to being a hastened cd

[grand veldt]

For fort weeks yes

Wajr

Wait

The talent no

[lusty grotto]

it also takes into account full ITF uptime

so talents are a big deal whether youre playing HR or not

[grand veldt]

Running 4px is worth it on fort weeks but if you're doing tyran I think 2pc 2pc is better

[lusty grotto]

the numbers there arent exact to what you will have due to ITF

[grand veldt]

And yeah I just don't like how weak thunder clap is at start of pulls without that avatar talent

[lusty grotto]

i disagree

what do you need 2pc t30 for

in tyr weeks

[grand veldt]

You do 15% increase shield slam damage

[lusty grotto]

the DR?

[grand veldt]

You lose like 6k per shield slam with new 4pc

[lusty grotto]

idk about that youre losing a lot of STR due to ilvl caps on t30

[grand veldt]

Just try it yourself before you rush to any judgement, but it's been something a bunch have been simming here

[lusty grotto]

and alot of damage added with TR

would have to see those sims, i bet they dont have t31 capped

youre dropping so much ilvl on 2 pieces

thats a str loss

[grand veldt]

It's like 400 str depending on the piece you're using

[jagged pier]

its not

[grand veldt]

It Jack's up your shield slam a lot

[jagged pier]

because its a dps loss

even in ST

u should sim

[urban portal]

When the yellows are out

[grand veldt]

Nome and someone else were simming it last night

[jagged pier]

depends on ilvl but my hc pieces are better than old 2pc

[urban portal]

Link sim

Or link chat

It’s that easy to prove

[grand veldt]

Sec

[dusky canopy]

🦗

[grand veldt]

You ever get anything back on this?

[grand veldt]

Bruh some of us are on phone, takes more than 2 minutes to find a post, relax

[dusky canopy]

[ember granite]

Is it fine to craft a shield this season or should we use sparks else where? can't seem to get an better shield for the life of me this phase

[jagged pier]

i mean i can also just say from experince from raid that my new 4pc does more numbers than my old 2pc

[grand veldt]

I have tried both and felt the 2pc gave me higher st

In a raid that is

Tyran week I liked it as well

But I have all 450 tier

[frosty mango]

This is why we have sims tho

[grand veldt]

450 old tier

With socket

[frosty mango]

The power of mathematics compels us

[jagged pier]

its close but not better https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v36hYt7ibbe7pF6N6DcPax

because u change yur talents etc

[sick sentinel]

damnit

i killed the mob and he didnt drop it

[jagged pier]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2vrgCiKiVvm4f67Y75LeCJ

[grand veldt]

That's like way higher dps then I've ever applied

[urban portal]

And this is assuming equal Ilvl?

[grand veldt]

Normally I get 90k dps max

[green trench]

Question...

Normal Fyrakk weapon or a 483/489 weapon?

[pallid quiver]

Gholak

Only thing better than Gholak

is a higher ilvl gholak

[green trench]

Really? 😮

[pallid quiver]

yeah it's a little nutty

Since it doesn't give up any stat budget for the effect

[jagged pier]

tbh

those sims are closer than the other week

[dusky canopy]

POGweapon 2.0

[jagged pier]

but about 1k dps closer

[coral umbra]

How much HP do y’all have at like 470 ilvl?

[jagged pier]

1.1-1.2 mil

[coral umbra]

Ohh nice

[jagged pier]

yer it will be as its sims, as its best case but my point is at a certain point raw strength from the ilvl will just make it better, not only for damage but witht he extra health and armour and strength for defence

sure its not much at like 470 ilvl but at 489

100% will be better

[iron pumice]

whats our uptime on shield block supposed to be? not 100% right?

[jagged pier]

100%

[bleak breach]

Depends on content

[iron pumice]

m+

[bleak breach]

100% on active fights

[iron pumice]

im a 85% usually ill look into rotation more thank you

[bleak breach]

M+ it might say 85-90% due to being out of combat and charging in, but while actually fighting enemies you should be at 100-% uptime or something is wrong.

[median niche]

do you really pull middle pack in atal dazar even on forti?

[lusty grotto]

its heavily nerfed so sure

[winged slate]

The charges are free now, too

[grand veldt]

But wouldn't the raw increase of str on all the other pieces of gear amplify the 2pc as well?

Like yeah you might lose 400 or even 500 str, but if it's on gloves and shoulders or something and everything else is 489, I'm just not certain yet

[uneven mason]

Jakey sporting those Stam trinkets

[strong forum]

2pc buffs overall dmg by ~4%

[uneven mason]

Compared to 4pc t30?

[strong forum]

40ilvl on 2 pieces is more stats than 4% overall

[strong forum]

No, just 2pc raw

[grand veldt]

I see so it scales better now for me at like 467 ilvl

But it jut will outscore

[uneven mason]

Because I'm sitting in some 441 t30 still

[strong forum]

You have 2 catalysts + ksm token available this week

Surely you can replace your items now

[grand veldt]

I'm still interested to see the sims as we develop, but yeah

[uneven mason]

I haven't gotten a single tier drop

So I'm 2/2

[green trench]

and Embellishment... iwth the 3 ilvl drop, worth?

[jagged pier]

nope

[grand veldt]

I really like that BRH trinket

[strong forum]

4k free dps vs 3ilvl hmmmm

(yes they're worth)

[jagged pier]

that is true but your also forget the 4pc part of the new tier set

[grand veldt]

It's like chromatic essence with a bonus silence

[green trench]

HMM

ok 😦

[grand veldt]

True

[uneven mason]

The 4pc is

[strong forum]

I went from 1pc to 4pc today, feels good to be finally rid of t30

[uneven mason]

Hoping to actually get some tier this week

[grand veldt]

I really liked t30

[uneven mason]

From raid I mean

[strong forum]

Sure, but it's now old

I don't like old

I want new

[grand veldt]

The war on old

[raw parcel]

I love this new tier, watching all those blood effects just explode feels great.

[chrome falcon]

[strong forum]

Gapped

[chrome falcon]

i missed two trinket casts

our boss died the instant he went into second vulnerable phase

worst case scenario sadly

[warm plinth]

https://tenor.com/yHHi.gif

[polar sandal]

is there a haste cap for prot warriors?

[warm plinth]

@lusty grotto

[jagged pier]

its called get good

[chrome falcon]

forgot to bind the fyrakk trinket

[jagged pier]

didnt get augury in hc run today

[chrome falcon]

i had almost every single drop i needed from today's HC clear

[bleak breach]

What boss is that for?

[chrome falcon]

just needed smolderon trinket and fyrakk dps trinket

gnarlroot myth

[bleak breach]

How constant are the adds in mythic? I’ve seen some huuuge numbers

[jagged pier]

dont even get next hc of ither

[bleak breach]

Pure survivability alone taking new 4pc is better anyway, it’s a lot of stats to lose just to have SS do a little more damage.

Plus the potential extra 6% damage reduction and TR cd for aoe

[nova rover]

Whats a good ilvl to start heroic at?

[jagged pier]

that depends on your comfort lvl

[chrome falcon]

HC felt easy to tank at 447

but that was in my team of mythic raiders

if you're just pugging and have 0 healer trust

you might want to be closer to 460

[nova rover]

Gotcha 😄

Yea we got smacked as a team first week but I was 455

[bleak breach]

I started heroic at 447

But you’re gonna have a rough time on Volc onwards without higher then 455

Volcoross slaps

[strong forum]

Mainly cuz the tank buster isn't blockable

Which makes 0 sense

Since it's like 90% phys 10% magic

[bleak breach]

I find the dot worse, we just taunt swap at the jaws.

Not sure how everyone else does it though

[jagged pier]

u just spell block the dot

ez

[winged slate]

I mean that's just the intended way to tank it

You get a bunch of stacks of "Cataclysm jaws will kill you", then it comes in and the other tank grabs it

Or he intentionally taunts late cause it's funny

[restive scroll]

Completely agree there.
First week volc at 447 still was slapping hard.
If there was no good enough healer, that was difficult to survive, or I was low all the time from the dot.
(healers were low too, and the fight kinda hurt when you're underlevel)

[raw parcel]

I love Black Rook Hold so much 😄 Even the murder spiders.

[maiden ravine]

Fervid Bite is the 2p right?

[grand veldt]

Yes

[toxic pewter]

ABF always be ferviding

[maiden ravine]

they really should've added a new dps weapon enchant this tier

sophic and shadowflame have gotten so weak

[toxic pewter]

all the cool kids use wafting

[maiden ravine]

I just followed the guide haha

[sick sentinel]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/YN8hHWwV6nJq1By2#fight=last

nothing special at all but i logged some low wcm i ddid

not so great

[maiden ravine]

So I'm guessing next season Prot's first purchase will be just a new version of Gholak right?

I love the weapon so much

[lusty grotto]

we use wafting

[maiden ravine]

well I just spent 13k gold cause of the guide then. 😄

[bleak breach]

Hoping to finally get Gholak this week. Still haven’t seen one drop or in vault

[lusty grotto]

what guide

[maiden ravine]

wowhead

[lusty grotto]

we recommend wafting here

ok well we dont write that

those are fine, just wafting is slightly better

[cinder nova]

8K haste unbuffed boooooy

we cookin

[maiden ravine]

can't wait for our thunderlord stuff

[median tulip]

Does anyone know exactly how the skip works in Amirdrassil?

[toxic pewter]

what thunderlord stuff

[maiden ravine]

hero talent stuff, Maybe they called it Thane? I forget

[toxic pewter]

oh mountain thane right

[toxic pewter]

haven't used it yet but I assume its after 2nd boss can summon that bridge to smolderon (I may be very wrong on this, purely what I think how it would work)

[maiden ravine]

it feels kinda crummy that your skip is still doing 5/9 bosses

skips should be first to last 2 or something

[median tulip]

TBH if it does work like that it would be ideal. What I'm worried about is having to clear the 2 side wings to get to Smolderon for Trinket kills

[sick sentinel]

does there bcome a time on like 20s or 24s or soemthing that u split these up

on like fort

seems like it would be a huge heal check cuz its hits everyone times 2

[strong forum]

first pack you double pull and commit all CDs

then you single pull

[jagged pier]

U can also just skip one of the first ones

If u want

[sick sentinel]

liek how u split the boss 1 pf trash?

[round pendant]

I jump on a pack, thunderclap, move to next pack to pull that

he CD's and unloads on the first pack

dies

I left

[grand veldt]

I definitely think skipping one on fort week is the better option

They have a ton of health and take a long time to kill

[strong forum]

https://i.imgur.com/vIM0zpo.png

461 ilvl and 123k ST dps

xddd

[median tulip]

Nice. What was that on?

[strong forum]

igira

[cinder nova]

N H or M

[strong forum]

LFR

[cinder nova]

kekw

[median tulip]

lulz

[cinder nova]

what happened in raid nom

they not giving you loot

[strong forum]

i dont raid

[cinder nova]

oof

[median tulip]

I did LFR Nymue on an alt earlier. First thing the tank did was to try to pull the 2 trash wardens before the boss together. Instant Raid Wipe.

[fast knot]

Cross the lines pay the fines

[raw parcel]

Well if you haven't done it before, no way to know that's gonna blow everyone up

[median tulip]

It's a LEarning Experience xD

[fast knot]

Nothing like a dps kicking the add on their side when the other tank is in the process of getting brezzed

Oh for sure, typical LFR experience

[cinder nova]

Is bloodmallet's windfury profile for prot accurate?

[strong forum]

ye

bloodmallet takes the sims directly from simc

[cinder nova]

sadge

[strong forum]

why sadge

[cinder nova]

we're edged out

[strong forum]

only by 4 specs

[winged slate]

Depending on your raid comp it means that you get windfury

[woeful harbor]

hello i have a question to the Goliath in Waycrest. do Burning Brush make more damage when he have more stacks from Soul Harvest ?

[winged slate]

Yeah the AOE damage scales with your stacks

Be a gigachad and never clear

[strong forum]

we have conflicting info on that

[woeful harbor]

yeah

but rng fire in the boss

[winged slate]

Did it change?

[strong forum]

the first tick is increased

the subsequent ticks are not

because the buff gets removed with the first fire tick

[sick sentinel]

tldr

that shit hurts

[strong forum]

well yeah they buffed it by like 160%

[sick sentinel]

it used to hurt alot even in bfa in real keys

like 15 or above

[blazing condor]

blizz should just make it so that fire has a higher chance of spawning in the inital boss circle

than outside

[sick sentinel]

prot tip about that fight

you are not limited to the circle he sits in

[blazing condor]

ye

but even still

not fun to pull him all the way out of the courtyard

[sick sentinel]

you can drag him decently far towards the fountain

dont know limit

[strong forum]

limit is the doors

only resets actually "inside" the house

[sick sentinel]

hes a total joke though

untill he roots someone crucial

does melee, and controlable aoe fire

liek lo

oh no

[woeful harbor]

ok shit i like to tank this boos not with fire but 70 stacks and fire all dead or ?

[sick sentinel]

i signed up for rise instsead of fall

70 is the limit, got it

Kappa

[grand veldt]

Idk what happens with the scaling

But 1-35 stacks don't hurt

Everything after 35 starts to feel doubled

[lusty grotto]

stacks only increase bosses auto attacks

[sick sentinel]

take him to fire at liek 20 realistically

[lusty grotto]

as long as you have a big shield, it doesnt hurt

[woeful harbor]

?

[lusty grotto]

even his crush doesnt get increased

it does nothing basically

[grand veldt]

Idk he just starts eating all my ignore pain each hit

[woeful harbor]

real ? all say on my guild more stacks make more dmg when he stack up

[lusty grotto]

who cares about IP

its physical

i did 90 stacks on 1st week

[woeful harbor]

yeah easy

[sick sentinel]

if u are going to let it stack to heavnes

[lusty grotto]

only his auto attacks get affected

[sick sentinel]

have to have good dps

adn healer

[lusty grotto]

not spikes

not aoe

not crush

[woeful harbor]

safe call ?

[grand veldt]

I'll try it next key and post logs when I get one shot at 50

In a 24 or something

[lusty grotto]

well you shouldnt

[woeful harbor]

ah 70+stacks for prot is easy

[lusty grotto]

cause i did a 20 with a 447 shield and it was doable

as long as you have big crit

and/or big shield

[woeful harbor]

but i scared the rng fire comes in and group dies and all blame me for big ball tanking..

[grand veldt]

Imma start heroic leaping

Just to avoid melee

[lusty grotto]

why lmao

holy fuck

say you didnt play bfa wcm without saying it

we didnt reset at all

[grand veldt]

Lol

I'll try it seriously

[lusty grotto]

just keep SB up

[woeful harbor]

yeah easy

[grand veldt]

And I'll post logs

Yeah I'm 100% uptime on that

[lusty grotto]

and start cycling walls in after 70ish

[grand veldt]

I thought his thorn damage got increased

But I guess not

[jagged gust]

Damn sounds like I've been way underestimating how many stacks I can handle

[lusty grotto]

it didnt in bfa

[grand veldt]

Do we know all the abilities that can stop root?

[lusty grotto]

so there's no reason why they would change it

[grand veldt]

I know bladestorm won't get thorns

[median tulip]

I tanked him on a +20 at 35 stacks, and he kinda started to sting at that point, but not much

[grand veldt]

And I know you can pvp trinket out

[woeful harbor]

ok guys i hope i dont kill my group next time when rng fire come on boss on 70+ stacks

[grand veldt]

Lmfao

You don't do half measures

[lusty grotto]

you wont

[grand veldt]

Either stop at 30

Or don't stop

Because 70 little dudes is death

[lusty grotto]

uhh

what

just dodge them

[median tulip]

For some reason, my static Feral is just straight up immune to it. Not even "have to form shift to break out", just immune.

[grand veldt]

Yeah bear form and ghost wolf will immune

And idk man pug healers are shit

[lusty grotto]

freedom, regular ole blink

[grand veldt]

Freedom doesn't work but bop does

[lusty grotto]

not double blink

[grand veldt]

It's a stun effect not a root

[lusty grotto]

regular blink

[woeful harbor]

the problem is the rng fire sometimes come directly in boss

[lusty grotto]

i havent had that happen at all

[grand veldt]

I have

[median tulip]

You can just run away from the burning dudes

[lusty grotto]

and i did this dungeon back in bfa for the entire expansion

never has fire landed on the boss

[grand veldt]

I had it pop back to back once after a clear

Healer was very upset

[lusty grotto]

maybe if youre moving around like an idiot and kiting

[grand veldt]

Just charging to the thorns

[lusty grotto]

for whatever reason

why is your dps so far from the boss

everyone should be stacked in

[grand veldt]

Because they're pos casters

[lusty grotto]

for cleave

well fuck em

[median tulip]

I have had it happen, but only because there's a delay between "the lightning is going to strike here" to "now this spot is on fire", and if you're fast you can move it to get struck

[grand veldt]

Based

[sick sentinel]

rist fort is bad

[lusty grotto]

use spell block

[median tulip]

The funny thing about the little dudes on the wickerman boss is that Arms and Rogues can just straight up ignore them

Arms because of DBTS and Rogues because of Evasion

[lusty grotto]

btw everbloom tech still works

[cinder nova]

?

I did not give a shit about keys in WoD

what is the tech

or.. welll

[sick sentinel]

im scared for my key

[cinder nova]

"Challenge DUngeons"

[jagged gust]

DNgeons

[sick sentinel]

rip key maybe

[waxen orbit]

Ember of Nullification is dogshit right?

[median tulip]

There's a root you can hide behind that nulls one charge

[cinder nova]

Why only one

[sick sentinel]

i thought i was going to brick the key

[bleak breach]

What’s Deios feel like after nerfs?

[toxic pewter]

Felt easier if I say so myself

but it also is fortified so will judge better with tyran

[tardy grove]

My group told me they fixed it so I didn’t try, good to know

[ashen coral]

Hello, as I have already talked about threat issues and as people told me that I could have more dps for my stuff, I have done two logs (for now) if someone can tell me where i am wrong it would be really nice

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2nJph1Hx8yTXKW9a#fight=3&type=summary
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2nJph1Hx8yTXKW9a#fight=3&type=threat

I don’t know if it is done correctly as I have never done logs until now

[tardy grove]

The amount of stacks determines how many fire guys spawn?

[warm plinth]

It's just a stat stick. Iirc the effect isn't part of the budget

[lusty grotto]

they havent

you still gotta LoS it correctly thoguh

[blazing condor]

yeah it doesnt always work

tried in my everbloom today but fucked it up the first time

[lusty grotto]

you have a very little amount of time to move to it

if you have leap its super comfy

if you dont, you might be fucked

[blazing condor]

idk what causes it to work/not work

cus im in the same spot both times

[lusty grotto]

its full LoS kind of

[blazing condor]

but sometimes maybe good sometimes maybe shit

[grand veldt]

Yessir

[blazing condor]

with the boss positioned at the same starting point

[lusty grotto]

if youre moving he follows

so you might not be LoSing

[blazing condor]

🤷‍♂️

but works most of the time

just not all the time

[lusty grotto]

thats just my experience

[blazing condor]

forgot to switch lootspec and got 470 stonescales

couldve been a better hourglass

[lusty grotto]

i dont see anything wrong at a glance

[trim bay]

I move the boss so if Im facing the tree it's slightly to the left of it

If it's to the right he can sometimes charge you still

Will have slight less cleave time on boss but avoids the DMG and it's safe and works every time

[lusty grotto]

there's not a lot of threat issues from what i can gather in that log red

stalkers got on fury, but that can just happen if you havent gotten them out of stealth

saurids are 🤷

these 2 however...

[ashen coral]

Yes in these fights I lost aggro a few times for one mob but not a lot, but with strong dh or pal it happens more

I’ll try tomorrow to have such keys

[lusty grotto]

thats normal

if youre doing a big pull for example, and they pop all their shit

[toxic pewter]

why potions of power so expensive these days jeeze

[lusty grotto]

as youre running pulling

because people marked up prices for everything due to the new content

and RWF

ive dropped around 60k in consumables since i transferred

[static shore]

how much haste

[static shore]

is too much haste?

[lusty grotto]

not a big deal, youll make it back

[sick sentinel]

my poor dps warrior

got destroyed in this dungeon

[lusty grotto]

i guess i need a neon colored nickname

red not visible enough

[strong forum]

god i hate TW

slam out 5 TW dungeons in 50 minutes

and ofc i get a cloak

[lusty grotto]

i havent done it yet

kinda feels like legion and bfa chests

when you were hoping for a shield for like months

[strong forum]

bro i want legit any trinket

[lusty grotto]

feelsbadman 😢

[blazing condor]

branch is actually a pretty good trink

does a good chunk of damage

[bleak breach]

What is it? Norm gear?

[blazing condor]

you get a normal reward

from tw

[lusty grotto]

yup

[bleak breach]

Yeah I’ve got heroic branch and it does a fair whack

Nothing on augury though lol

[blazing condor]

id rather want brand or augury

but you know

you gotta be lucky for that

[bleak breach]

Guy I know sent me numbers from a few keys he did and augury was top 3 in every key and raid fight for damage

Was insane

[ashen coral]

Okay I see, so it is normal if I have to aoe taunt sometimes I guess

But then I don’t understand why I don’t get high dps

For example I simmed myself when I had 4p of season 2 and I think I got as much or even better damage than with current 4p while it shouldn’t be the case as I have better ilvl

I simmed without any flask or buff except battle shout in patchwerk 3 boss 1min30 and I got only 130k dps, I don’t know what we should have usually

[strong forum]

augury doesnt have mainstat

branch has mainstat

so if augury does 10%, it does in reality 7% if you compare it to mainstat trinkets

[blazing condor]

🧠

[warm plinth]

This is untrue. Only 7 spawn per reset.

[lusty grotto]

try 5 boss, with that time, and without bloodlust/hero

[sleek current]

Anyone know if Gift is still not simming right?

[warm plinth]

The death from resetting at 70 stacks would be the burning brush aoe damage with 350% increased damage

[lusty grotto]

ursine is still bugged yes

[sleek current]

Cheers

[lusty grotto]

ghash

it doesnt increase the aoe

unless they put that in

[bleak breach]

That’s very fair

[strong forum]

it increases the dmg from the very first tick

the subsequent ticks are not empowered

because the first tick removes the dmg buff from the boss

[lusty grotto]

ah

that sounds right

[ashen coral]

I get 185k dps (without flask or anythint as I don’t use them)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/72GctZ8zDrPanLzoZ8Q8rz

Edit : actually I misremember, I had less in season 2 (I think I did sim for 5 boss in season 2 but I did not remember so I did only 3 boss now)

[bleak breach]

Is it a bug? Or is that just what it’s going to be?

[lusty grotto]

thats how it is

and how it was in bfa

the reason i didnt count the 1st tick is we just didnt reset

back then

[bleak breach]

Sorry, my bad. I misread, I thought we were talking about gift

[lusty grotto]

oh

[strong forum]

gift isnt bugged in sims

but it got "fixed" in sims, so now it sims like ass

[warm plinth]

That doesn't seem right either. Looking at logs it looks like the damage ramps down after the initial hit, but it doesn't just fall off after the first hit. On a 26 tyr with a 33 stack reset, the unmitigated ticks went from 504724, to 451030 to 386597, to 332903, to 268470, to two ticks of 214776.

[bleak breach]

@strong forum so is it working correctly live now?

[warm plinth]

No, the sim was changed to reflect how the trinket is actually performing. But the trinket is bugged.

[bleak breach]

Had a mate who uses it and said he’s never actually managed to get the heal effect to go yet.

Ahh okay, disappointing

[strong forum]

no

[median tulip]

TBH I don't think I'm going to reset this week. If I can handle 35 stacks in a +20 Tyrannical, I should be able to just straight tank it the whole way on Fort

[warm plinth]

You should yeah

[bleak breach]

Balls to the wall

[warm plinth]

Just send it unless your dps are ass tier

[median tulip]

Both my DPS and my Aug are good

and my Disco boy puts out good numbers too

[lusty grotto]

so the reset is affected

33 stacks?

thats uhh

5% per right?

165% more damage?

[strong forum]

seems to be correct

ive been told wrong information

[lusty grotto]

26 is around 60% more due to scaling

[median tulip]

It's funny how irrelevant the tankbuster is on that boss

[strong forum]

it was alot scarier in bfa

[warm plinth]

Yeah I'm guessing the ticks emulate the stacks falling off gradually even though visually they fall off instantly

[strong forum]

cuz of block downtime

[lusty grotto]

its 150k avg tick per 34 stacks in a 20

[warm plinth]

Right but the first tick (at least in that 26) was 235% of the last two ticks so I'm not sure exactly how it's being calculated.