Double 2pc
#protection
lusty tiger
This is op
waxen orbit
double 2 pc feels awful imo
It's okay tbh
Only feels bad because you know just how much you're missing
toxic pewter
outside of avatar waiting for thunderclap cooldown suk ass
toxic pewter
Only feels bad because you know just how much you're missing
yeah thats true i guess
soft plume
how do we convince our guilds to let us take the legendary axe even though we're tanks
waxen orbit
Use big words
cosmic wyvern
ok I accept it: I have to at least try to learn arms so I have a dps spec
how do i do
maiden ravine
fury is more fast paced like prot I feel
median tulip
I used to main Arms, but currently in DF it has huge issues of the "Blizz don't know what made this spec fun in the past so currently it feels really bad" kind.
To the point that if I have to DPS nowadays I use Fury.
balmy canyon
How is everyone else tracking thier set bonus? This is what I've come up with
median tulip
How is everyone else tracking thier set bonus? This is what I've come up with
I made a weakaura that tracks proces, but in absolute honesty it barely changes my playstyle and I could probably delete it without causing any problems.
mortal brook
Salted caramel banana icing pancakes @undone sun
undone sun
cosmic wyvern
fury is more fast paced like prot I feel
does fury require using annhilator now
urban portal
Yes
maiden ravine
once you get 4p
toxic pewter
dude im a heroic fyrakk and the dps dk doesnt have grippy hands talent LOL wat is going on in this world
dull vine
this trinket worth anything?
ionic fern
Salted caramel banana icing pancakes <@140655388730064896>
That does look good, ngl.
ionic fern
this trinket worth anything?
It's worth in gold.
maiden ravine
Nice, Liquid tank is gonna get the axe
lusty grotto
i thought driney got it
isnt he an hpal
im not that big of a fanboy
oh they just mentioned it
maiden ravine
oh, Riku maybe got it for offspec
maiden ravine
I actually really like that axe, got it on my warrior, but haven't taken my paladin into the raid
lusty grotto
i havent gotten lucky
viral elk
anything fancy for Tyr in Murazonds Rise in tyrannical? or we just gettin man handled?
maiden ravine
the guild im recruiting for gave it to the udk over me
unholy? What?
undone verge
anything fancy for Tyr in Murazonds Rise in tyrannical? or we just gettin man ha...
tyr really isnt the boss you gotta worry about in Rise
maiden ravine
Like frost DKs aren't even going DW this tier are they?
lusty grotto
ive no idea lol
undone verge
but double shield wall
ionic fern
anything fancy for Tyr in Murazonds Rise in tyrannical? or we just gettin man ha...
Manhandled by who?
viral elk
but double shield wall
thank you!
viral elk
Manhandled by who?
Tyr's buster eatin 1 mil each time
lusty grotto
you can spell block it
lusty grotto
just spell block it
you dont need double wall
wtf
spell block it
and if spell block is not up use wall + SR
not hard
ionic fern
Oh, the first boss?
lusty grotto
that boss is giga easy
ionic fern
What does even damage there?
lusty grotto
only boss that hurts in that instance is deios, thats it... well battlefield can fuck you up if they get stacks anyway
viral elk
~~just spell block it~~
ionic fern
And dStance+SR+IP should cover it easily.
viral elk
not spell blockable
lusty grotto
weird, it does no damage to me anyway
ionic fern
What key level?
lusty grotto
but mwahi has logs so yeah
viral elk
21
ionic fern
Jeah, no.
viral elk
1 mil, with or without sb
ionic fern
Just look at the image i posted.
That was a 22.
It did 876k when i had only IP up.
dStance + SR + IP
And you take like 300k damage on a 21.
ionic fern
but mwahi has logs so yeah
Got logs for days.
lusty grotto
i stand corrected but yeah it barely hurts
viral elk
And you take like 300k damage on a 21.
right on, i'll take another swing at that. thank you
ionic fern
Jeah, if nothing else, just swap to dStance for that specific smack - already 20% DR.
undone verge
right on, i'll take another swing at that. thank you
have fun with deios
viral elk
ionic fern
Okay, unironically..Deos wasn't as scary.
undone verge
as tyr?
ionic fern
Yes.
undone verge
did you do the leap tech?
ionic fern
Once, just to test it.
ionic fern
Ya, don't always have room and/or your DPS'ers are standing in somewhere wonky.
jagged gust
Mwahi out here with healers with double digit IQs flexin' on us
ionic fern
That's healing done to me on Deios by source.
I'm (kinda) sure that Evoker bugs rdruid a bit in logs tho.
That's on Tyr.
That's lowkey all i'm getting.
Cause he hates me.
jagged gust
Okay nvm, Mwahi just flexing on us in general
Everytime someone compliments me in a dungeon, I'm just like "Wait until you see someone who's actually good"
ionic fern
Same.
We tried ToT first corridor pull on a 25 yesterday. Needless to say, did not go well.
undone verge
damn mwahi healers making mine look like they have room temperature IQs
ionic fern
And then there's @patent osprey who probably did the same pull on a 26 and survived to tell the tale.
ionic fern
damn mwahi healers making mine look like they have room temperature IQs
Ya, he has the mentality of actually letting the hots do the work.
We do need to remind him constantly "This boss deals damage, please heal", because he just sits in cat form.
lusty grotto
problem with leaping breath
is that your dps immediately get agro on adds portalling
and youre on the other side of azeroth
so you have to go hard on adds as they get initially summoned
then leap, and mash taunt as youre getting close
restive scroll
I use ravager for first leap, not sure if that works yet though
restive scroll
ofc
lusty grotto
but if he says nope and goes the opposite way, thats the issue
patent osprey
so you have to go hard on adds as they get initially summoned
Just AOE taunt after the breath
I always leap that breath into charge aoe taunt before they reach their portals
undone verge
can always heroic throw them as well
patent osprey
no u cant cc them
lusty grotto
yea
restive scroll
well, the problem is mostly their one auto attack after pop
undone verge
taunt works too
restive scroll
not the spell casting
well, I mean, they die faster from the aa !
Plus (I think, more tested required) you kinda control where the add goes
restive scroll
As far as I've been able to check out, add pops close to the closest portal, which are in the corner of the room
Second add pop in the closest one (unless you move the boss on the other side maybe? not sure there's a reason for that)
lusty grotto
do you mean the summoners
lusty grotto
i feel like deios just summons them where hes facing
as far as i can remember they are always on my face
restive scroll
Yes, but the place they go is just the closest
That's the important part, isn't it ?
lusty grotto
ok but what do you mean the closest
winged slate
The first two seem to run to the side you're closer to
restive scroll
The first two seem to run to the side you're closer to
that
winged slate
So if you're on the right half of the room they spawn portals to the right
winged slate
They're not gonna run to the opposite side
winged slate
You can always put down a ravager and then leap out of breath towards the room entrance
lusty grotto
so for example if youre closest to (im not in game so making it up) the right side, they run to the right side, and you have to leap to the left to avoid breath
winged slate
If you're really worried about the two guys spawning
restive scroll
so for example if youre closest to (im not in game so making it up) the right si...
y
Add pops right before breath
lusty grotto
so youre potentially as far as you possibly can be to the portal and where they start turreting
restive scroll
so you can ravager to avoid a melee getting aa leap & charge back
lusty grotto
so thats what i meant as the biggest issue with leaping breath
because as far as gap closers go, you just used your leap, so you only have charge
past dirge
Is there a point to using rend as a prot warrior? Is it not the same bleed thats applied by deepwounds?
lusty grotto
no point
past dirge
thanks
restive scroll
as far as which sides they run to
Yeah, gotta figure out how to abuse it properly now
lusty grotto
xD
winged slate
Teach your DPS to do giga damage so the fight lasts 30 seconds
That would make it a lot easier to live
gusty shore
Hey! Could someone help me understand which type of damage Intervene is Blocking? Yesterday I did a 20 BRH and we were struggeling to kill the swarm quickly. Is there anyway to determine which attack is transfered to me? Other example would be the knive dance or archer frontal in BRH as well
lyric cape
Hey! Could someone help me understand which type of damage Intervene is Blocking...
Intervene will only redirect direct melee hits
or abilties that are direct melee hits
gusty shore
How do I know what is a melee attack? This seems to be a stupdi question but i cant wrap my head around it. For example the Swarm in BRH (last Boss) is a Enemy Unit in Melee range with no cast bar -> melee attack?
lyric cape
The knife dance is not a direct hit to a target but AoE so it doesnt get redirected. Same with archer volley. The 'shoot' the archer does a direct attack
jagged pier
but its ticking damage
not melees
u can actually block knife dance
it just depends on the ability
and stuff
theres no clear rule just depends how its coded
lyric cape
Wait you can? nice tought it didn't
jagged pier
apprently
didnt know till i just checked it
i mean
knife dance shouldnt go off anyway
the mob should just be stopped
gusty shore
True, i tend to pug alot so this is not the case at all times π
jagged pier
but u have 3 stops yourself
jagged pier
this expansion yes
ionic fern
Conclusion interveen is shit?
Not shit - situational.
gusty shore
Do you have a use case in current m+?
restive scroll
pretty sure it could be use on sick bats in brh
jagged pier
it could
restive scroll
I didn't find anything yet in this season
restive scroll
I usually shockwave one out of two, that could be the second time
gusty shore
Haha
Ok i would like to throw in another question about definitions. Do Frontals (magic Damage) count as Spells?
restive scroll
Ok i would like to throw in another question about definitions. Do Frontals (mag...
same issue as intervene, some do, some don't
gusty shore
Ffs i hate this...
restive scroll
I remember being able to reflect the second boss of the raid hall of valor
gusty shore
They need to attach tags on the dungeon journal
restive scroll
But not many others
gusty shore
Good thin trash week is coming time to do some testing on weaker tank busters π
jagged palm
what kind of dps should prot warr be able to burst for 15-30s on a 5 target cleave? I feel like I could be way higher than 150-200k at 460 gs
jagged gust
I think my sustained is a little more than 200k so bursting should exceed that by quite a bit
woven torrent
does anyone have a pov of a everbloom +20 this week?
jagged palm
Am i missing something obvious other than opening with demo shout avatar ravager, then roar and prior TC > SS?
woven torrent
can't find anything on youtube
ionic fern
Ffs i hate this...
We all do. That's the big issue with warriors.
Abilities which look like they should be blockable ..sometimes are not. Others' which seem not to be blockable..are.
jagged pier
u never prio TC over SS
ionic fern
Wonky crap.
jagged palm
even in like 5-8 target cleave? prio SS?
pallid quiver
With outburst, SS outdamage TC even in aoe unless it's massive aoe, so putting TC over SS costs you both rage and damage. On top of that, almost every pull has some kind of prio mob that should be focused down first anyway, so it's important to funnel damage into that mob. You would only ever prio TC over SS if you're in some giga pulls with Bloodsurge, so you get more rage over all, but with both of the relevant tier sets, T30 and T31, that's still not what you do because SS has benefits for AOE on both of them
(T30 making SS after shield slam give aoe damage, T31 making it so when shield slam consumes bleeds, TC comes off CD, so the general button sequence ends up as SS - TC - SS -TC a lot of times)
lost wyvern
if im lacking haste, is into the frey better than heavy rep?
ionic fern
No.
jagged pier
No.
lost wyvern
ok.
jagged gust
other way around
lost wyvern
got it
pallid quiver
if im lacking haste, is into the frey better than heavy rep?
To elaborate, ITF gains value as you get more haste, since it gives you flat percent instead of messing with rating or DR or anything like that
blazing condor
lost 1k haste from switching out my ring 
jagged pier
pallid quiver
Imagine having haste as not your lowest stat
lost wyvern
To elaborate, ITF gains value as you get more haste, since it gives you flat per...
ok that makes sense
pallid quiver
i only have 2.3k haste
blazing condor
jagged pier
Crit gang rising
ashen coral
With outburst, SS outdamage TC even in aoe unless it's **_massive_** aoe, so put...
I always wonder, but if I donβt have SS available at a time, should I spam revenge or even wait for auto attack to reset ss or in this situation tc is better for outburst ?
ionic fern
I always wonder, but if I donβt have SS available at a time, should I spam reven...
I personally wait for ~1 global and just send TC if no reset.
restive scroll
does anyone have a pov of a everbloom +20 this week?
Not really, but I did it a few times.
Any particular issues ?
woven torrent
just wondering, am i always supposed to bring a priest for md?
bursting + tyrannical makes this dungeon hell
blazing condor
the pack sizes for bursting is ass in that dg
restive scroll
Nah, just control the dps
woven torrent
like i got a 20 key myself but i've been trying 16-18s for practice
restive scroll
The higher the key, the less an issue bursting becomes though
woven torrent
and joining those groups 1-2 people die almost every 2nd pack with the flower petals
restive scroll
if they don't stop dps, that's their fault, not yours.
Timer is not that tight though, so you can pull slower if they missbehave.
woven torrent
also how do you do second boss?
swap between left and right
or just focus one side?
blazing condor
one boss does big aoe burst
restive scroll
Ideally, lust and kill right side
Only tank switch if it's a bit tight
for heal kick
blazing condor
ppl usually just blast right
woven torrent
and do u use a defensive everytime the middle guy charges?
it deals a ton of dmg for me
blazing condor
yeah
restive scroll
Yes
woven torrent
so i always need shield wall/spell block
restive scroll
- defensive stance
blazing condor
also tell ur dps to move out during the charge as well
to not clutter up around the bos
restive scroll
^
ionic fern
so i always need shield wall/spell block
On a 20, you can also get away with SR+full IP+ dstance.
That was on a 23, look at the 800k hit, i had nothing outside of dstance and ip.
woven torrent
i can try
altho if i were to get an 800k that'd leave me on 200-300k assuming i had full ip lul
been waiting for priests for a while now so packs go smoother
ionic fern
altho if i were to get an 800k that'd leave me on 200-300k assuming i had full i...
Yep.
But that was a 23.
So on a 20, it should be chiller.
jagged pier
this was an 18
blazing condor
caps are dumb
jagged pier
nope they are good puts everyone on the same playing field
blazing condor
thats some commie propaganda
hardy snow
if you dont like caps on crests, just dont play for first month of season, come back after 4 week and you will have plenty of crests to collect 
thorny stone
and do u use a defensive everytime the middle guy charges?
https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedOnerousCardMrDestructoid-NY2VTOl6efoOpA2d
Unless it has been fixed
I have been playing lethal company instead of pushing keys, so I don't know
woven torrent
Well it worked out, been tanking it fine but unfortunately ranged dpses kept dying 3rd boss and wiped one last time at the last boss before it could be timed
so people left
restive scroll
https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedOnerousCardMrDestructoid-NY2VTOl6efoOpA2d
Unless...
It still works
woven torrent
unlucky i guess
restive scroll
Could be bug abuse though
woven torrent
thanks for the clip tho
Is that doable with both bosses alive too?
Not sure if anything would change
restive scroll
You really have to go into that corner for it to work
blazing condor
sometimes he runs around the tree too
restive scroll
It's not a los
It's a bugged spot
I forgot to test it, but I'm pretty sure it also works if you have him in los
civic scarab
Is 2x shadow flame patch bis embellishment for m+ too?
jagged pier
Yes.
sleek current
https://clips.twitch.tv/GiftedOnerousCardMrDestructoid-NY2VTOl6efoOpA2d
Unless...
This is so unreliable for me. Maybe I'm just an idiot but, it only works 1/3.
restive scroll
This is so unreliable for me. Maybe I'm just an idiot but, it only works 1/3.
Are you going to the corner between the tree & the root ?
worked this morning
sleek current
I'm going to the exact same spot the Druid is in that video. Ultimately, I gave up on it.
Playing the boss correctly isn't too bad. DPS still learning that you need to rotate bosses. When you're not getting hit by free casts from boss the charge isn't too bad.
restive scroll
idk then Β―_(γ)_/Β―
sleek current
Same man, same. Haha
waxen sorrel
Gonna try and stream some protection if anyone wanna give some live feedback.
https://youtu.be/T81RQa9WR1Y
(bait thumbnail no idea what key levels beyond +17 or higher)
100% its not for you to learn I am shit its for you to yell at me to use demo shout
jagged pier
waxen sorrel
Was not really for promotion more vod review but live
but I see what you mean sorry
teal swift
Wtb titan grip for prot warrior
waxen frigate
Wtb polearm + shield
lusty tiger
Wtb polearm + shield
bruhhhhhhhh THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OUR EVOKER TANK!
lusty tiger
although I wouldnt mind it for pwar either
opaque quest
Just give me titans grip gladiator stance
lusty tiger
that does sound sick
teal swift
Yeah, we have
dual weild tank
staf tank
animal tank
We have 2h tank
We have sword and board tank
We have sword and board tank
Would be cool to like differentiate from prot palasin
And get some mlre class idebtity
Might even increase popularity of learning with minimal redesign
They just get chonky weapons and shield
opaque quest
They might have to rework devastator tho
teal swift
nah it's fine
restive scroll
we could have a 2H and a shield, slight mix with fury
opaque quest
Make melee reset SS everytime. Done
teal swift
Yeah that would be cool, but I'm thinking about the future
Not one legendary that's +7k DPS single target
stable flower
So I think I finally realize that people follow βtier listsβ way to much. Prot war is incredibly tanky and has some great survivability. I can easily survive stuff in war that my equivalently geared prot pally would just die to minus cheesing stuff with final stand
teal swift
So I think I finally realize that people follow βtier listsβ way to much. Prot w...
Prot Warrior is the least played tank.
It could be #2 tank
And be lowest tier.
People just don't like it.
If pwar is #1 everyone plays it
If it's #2-6 it's least played
stable flower
I guess
teal swift
I don't guess, it's measurable.
stable flower
With like basic 50% dr on two set itβs just so sturdy
Guess I donβt understand wear people come up with these βrankingβ
Rankings*
pallid quiver
So I think I finally realize that people follow βtier listsβ way to much. Prot w...
The other issue with tier lists is that sometimes
they're just wrong and based on hype
teal swift
I like seeing population and highest keys
stable flower
Well at least it doesnβt have the consecrate mechanic. Entanglement is easy but itβs annoying every time it pops right after consecrate and I have to move
teal swift
Prot Warrior is doing the highest keys too. Least popular
teal swift
Well at least it doesnβt have the consecrate mechanic. Entanglement is easy but ...
Skill issue
Freedom yourself
Mechanic goes away
waxen frigate
Yeah, we have
dual weild tank
staf tank
animal tank
We have 2h tank
We have s...
monk is more accurately unarmed tank
our weapons are entirely cosmetic, always sheathed
teal swift
monk is more accurately unarmed tank
Alcoholic
teal swift
our weapons are entirely cosmetic, always sheathed
Unless transmognto brew artifact
waxen frigate
still sheathed last i checked
stable flower
Mechanic goes away
Sure I can do that but the fact that the tank is designed around being mostly stationary with all this movement is just bad design
teal swift
And has some special animations
agile elbow
Tier lists are also biased to whatever streamer is playing whatever tank they like best.
teal swift
Sure I can do that but the fact that the tank is designed around being mostly st...
Prot paladin is probably #2 tank rn
eager phoenix
Guess I donβt understand wear people come up with these βrankingβ
in naowhs, dorkis and andys tank chat the main metric when "ranking" the tank was utility. pwar cant compete with dh and prot paladin ability to solo the stops in any given pull. when warrior truly outshines is when sr is nuddy, like s1 nokhud. all 3 did mention and agree when it comes to pure sturdyness warrior is rly fkn good but end of the day that isnt the most important factor
teal swift
Even on sanguine you don't have to move that much
teal swift
in naowhs, dorkis and andys tank chat the main metric when "ranking" the tank wa...
Nothing can complete with vdh stops
Or Prot paladin utility
stable flower
Prot paladin is probably #2 tank rn
I am not talking about #2 you can be second and still have shit design philosophy
agile elbow
Paladin is just annoying with this seasons tier. There's a lot of fights that you can't stop moving on so empowered consecration is useless. Lol.
eager phoenix
Nothing can complete with vdh stops
point exactly, so if you wanna give the tanks a rating id go vdh #1 and the rest shared #2. like nobody is pushing world first keys you just go with whatever tank you have access to
teal swift
Yeah requires different tech
stable flower
Even on sanguine it's a fun playstyle
It was fine till everything was baked into consecrate. The tier set is annoying and not fun
agile elbow
It was fine till everything was baked into consecrate. The tier set is annoying ...
Hallelujer
silver crane
Pala is fun, war is a rush on peaks , always engaging. war is nice
depends on your personality tbh
teal swift
point exactly, so if you wanna give the tanks a rating id go vdh #1 and the rest...
We won't see what tank is meta for another month
agile elbow
It would be okay if you could turn consecration into an aura instead of an on ground effect.
stable flower
Aesthetically and thematically I love P Paladin a little more than warrior
teal swift
Rn vdh has a million stops.
Paladins have a lot of buttons.
But when everyone is 489 and cooking the comps and pushing those keys
We'll find out then
People coping thinking bdk will be meta because of an axe that doesn't address any of bdks m+ issues
silver crane
there is always arms pumping anyhow haha ...or fury
teal swift
All tanks are good
One or two tank might be better
But we need ilvl and new comps
RN it's lottery every tank can push the same level of.content
I like the minigame of stay in the yellow circle on prot pal
I'm also love prot warrior
Idk what I'll be playing in 2024
agile elbow
Rn vdh has a million stops.
Paladins have a lot of buttons.
But when everyone ...
Paladin has significantly less button bloat than brew at least.
eager phoenix
We won't see what tank is meta for another month
im not arguing that meta wont change. maybe vdh turns out to be emperors new clothes when the 25 ppl in the world start pushing 30+ keys. but before season was out vdh offered 12s blanket silence. its hard cope to argue anything but that would be "initial" fotm (or meta)
teal swift
Vdh will be nerfed
Paladin might become #1
Vdh is a safe pick rn, it brings so much shit to the table.
I'd like to see BrM become #1 it's so cool.
stable flower
New divine toll animation might be lit though
agile elbow
They also haven't done another tuning pass yet so vdh could get the nerf bat. I mean look at the tiny change bear got that decimated it from king last season lol
eager phoenix
so again, if i (random shitter) had to rate all the tanks id just put vdh #1 and the rest on a shared #2 spot. all tanks are sturdy enough that you can play them. only lfg kids think you need vdh for your 22 run
stable flower
If they tie challenging/disrupting shout into anger management warrior would be lit as fuck
opaque quest
Vdh will be nerfed
Paladin might become #1
Vdh is a safe pick rn, it brings so ...
BRM is already #1
In my heart
uneven mason
They also haven't done another tuning pass yet so vdh could get the nerf bat. I ...
I mean, imagine pushing a nerf that addresses an issue with a tier set being op, and then the new tier being absolutely shit (and still bugged so it doesn't work)
real minnow
hey... which craftet item/embellishment should i best go for? Cloak or bracers?
uneven mason
Those have the lowest stat impact so it's the recommended rout, but really only matters if you're going to get 489 mythic track stuff everywhere else
real minnow
Those have the lowest stat impact so it's the recommended rout, but really only ...
will not happen...
uneven mason
Because for some reason they decided they hate crafters again so fully upgraded gear is weaker from crafts
uneven mason
will not happen...
So you could do some stronger slots, as the crafted gear is easier to upgrade to heroic ilvl
Like boots/belt
Or shield
If you won't be killing the first boss in mythic
cerulean tusk
Just craft cape/wrist, then you won't regret vault drops 
uneven mason
That too
Thank goodness for the vault though, I've literally lost every roll in both raids and m+ since the season started
Like I love gold in my chests
Seriously
(I got the 1h from fyrak because no one else rolled on it)
uneven mason
Right, where's our tank bonus for doing dungeons
Literally have to run heroics for the bonus bag
Get gold there
cerulean tusk
Love those, always mid run or on the last boss
uneven mason
I revel in the panicked screams of the casual Andy's as I pull boss to boss
So interesting question, if I get a ruby whelp shell from m0 , will it remember the training from season 1?
lusty grotto
no
uneven mason
lusty grotto
you had to retrain different versions in s1, so
uneven mason
Not that I'd seriously use it....
undone verge
I revel in the panicked screams of the casual Andy's as I pull boss to boss
When the +2 people Iβm carrying tell me to slow down cause Iβm pulling wall to wall and theyβre dying
keen iris
Ran a 21 DHT last night. Any tips on the tree boss? I SWd the first grip, then LS the second, and the third I exploded. Anything more I can do or is it just on the healer at that point?
jagged gust
(I got the 1h from fyrak because no one else rolled on it)
Lmao same, already have the shield, fyrakk axe and ursine trinket cuz tanks keep blowing their dkp
lusty grotto
urine triket!
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
Context? 
restive scroll
Ran a 21 DHT last night. Any tips on the tree boss? I SWd the first grip, then L...
Leap out of all breaths, you'll have more ignore pain and continue alternating CDs
- def stance + reflect on all of them
undone verge
Ran a 21 DHT last night. Any tips on the tree boss? I SWd the first grip, then L...
You can run the double shield wall talent if you donβt have a defensive for the third one. Itβs not optimal as itβs less SW over the course of the dungeon, but if you donβt have any defensives for the third grip then it could work. Make sure you are in dstance as well, and thereβs actually a tech that if you leap backward before nightmare breath he wonβt follow you. Heβll still move side to side so care for dps when you leap. This will prevent the dot right before crushing grip which is a lot of the danger since it eats through ignore pain and puts you low for the grip
oblique radish
tips on last boss Rise? the breath just deals so much dmg
uneven mason
Leap
oblique radish
and hope dps move xD?
uneven mason
Leap away
opaque quest
Just leap away from the dps
uneven mason
Directly away
oblique radish
so have him against a wall with his back so dps can stand there and i can leap?
earnest cove
DPS shouldnt stack in front of boss anyway, so just leap in the direction the Boss is facing, should solve it
earnest cove
True story
oblique radish
hha perfect
vocal flame
tips on last boss Rise? the breath just deals so much dmg
Pika war actually has a great video on it on his stream from two days ago. He turns around about 2 seconds before breath and leaps away from the breath
cerulean tusk
I need to memo this, for when I do rise. One of those obvious things to do, that you forget
dusky canopy
Wonder how long cobra skin going to be price gouged
uneven mason
Wonder how long cobra skin going to be price gouged
Always
Have you tried to farm that?
It's idiotic how you get one
dusky canopy
Itβs absurd bro
opaque quest
The worse thing is the centaur necklace thing. Before the patch 15g now 15k
dusky canopy
Do we know the exact mats for axe
uneven mason
Whoever did ts this expansion fucking hates lw
winged slate
Should be this, right?
left basalt
Pika war actually has a great video on it on his stream from two days ago. He tu...
can you link the clip?
vocal flame
can you link the clip?
I will have to do it later. I am at work now lol
lusty grotto
Canβt wait to spend 5mill to craft my axe
π«
glad brook
I will have to do it later. I am at work now lol
Following as well, I did a 15 and just got blasted by that dagron
pallid quiver
You just leap max range in a direct line away from dragon
glad brook
Didnβt know you can range the frontal
vocal flame
Pretty much that ^ turn around about 2 seconds before and start running away then leap
So you land and run beyond the breath
pallid quiver
It's like 45-ish yards or something I think, so just to be safe, you want to run a bit after
but you just have breath start, you leap, you run
median tulip
Ran a 21 DHT last night. Any tips on the tree boss? I SWd the first grip, then L...
You should be able to get Shield Wall back in time for the third Grab, if a third grab happens. Personally I rely on Pain Suppression from my Static disc priest for the second, but if I were pugging I would run Immovable Object. Don't forget that DStance, Spell Reflect and Demo Shout should all be effective (the grab is Nature damage).
pallid quiver
turn back around, charge back in
hollow hill
I know everyone is suggesting putting the shadowflame enchant on bracers/cloak, but i'm missing my battle rez engineering bracers for M+. What would be the best 3rd item to put it on to minimize stat loss? Maybe boots?
left basalt
https://youtu.be/eicb_SPwPRA?si=BEtSNAywtoM488W6
ty
median tulip
I know everyone is suggesting putting the shadowflame enchant on bracers/cloak, ...
Boots or Waist are the next lowest stat budget non-Tier slots
dusky canopy
π«
Hopefully when I finally get it on week 24 of the season the market for those mats will have tanked
uneven mason
Hopefully when I finally get it on week 24 of the season the market for those ma...
Haaa
undone verge
Real talk tho should we craft a helm eventually? Like our bis helm is haste mastery according to wowhead so why not just craft a helm with haste crit or crit verse depending on how much haste we have?
hollow hill
Boots or Waist are the next lowest stat budget non-Tier slots
cool cool ty
dusky canopy
You already know the bots are milking that stuff
deep steppe
Hey guys, what weapon enchant should I be looking to us this tier?
I think Iβm using the shadow flame one currently (havenβt logged in this week yet due to the holiday in the US)
blazing condor
Real talk tho should we craft a helm eventually? Like our bis helm is haste mast...
difference being that u can get a 489 helm and crafted only 486
opaque quest
Real talk tho should we craft a helm eventually? Like our bis helm is haste mast...
Depends on the content you do. 489 vs 485
opaque quest
difference being that u can get a 489 helm and crafted only 486
Fuck i was to slow
woven torrent
would u guys replace the vial with any DHT trinkets?
or should i just sim the dps one
not sure how good the tank one is
opaque quest
I would never have used vial in the first place
undone verge
The haste one is prob better than vial
opaque quest
Sim dps and use whatever the robot says
woven torrent
I would never have used vial in the first place
didnt get another one yet
and played dps last season π
opaque quest
DPS also have OCE/Beacon/Anvil
undone verge
The egg I believe that gives you like 280 haste every second or whatever that means sims higher than vial only beaten by beacon and anvil iirc
From last tier ofc
Itβs like meh compared to this seasons trinkets
undone verge
difference being that u can get a 489 helm and crafted only 486
Is 489 the final tier for myth track?
winged slate
not sure how good the tank one is
It isn't
grizzled nova
Real talk tho should we craft a helm eventually? Like our bis helm is haste mast...
maybe, I don't think there's a haste crit helm in the season, set yourself to near max gear and then sim the helmets
blazing condor
Is 489 the final tier for myth track?
Yea
toxic pewter
wat u guys think of this trinket
jagged pier
bad
patent osprey
damn @jagged pier don't gotta put him in the ground like that
let him be a bit happy he got a 470 trinket
jagged pier
hey im only following what ive seen our orange name do
but i mean equip so your half why to flightstoning to 470 trinkets
vocal nimbus
Or just sim
grizzled nova
Real talk tho should we craft a helm eventually? Like our bis helm is haste mast...
I just did the sim anyway, Incarnate Casque at 489 is highest DPS (by literally 200), crafted is second.
So there's a strong case for crafting a helmet if you want to.
hushed bluff
guys can someone tell me where should i leap in oakheart boss
grizzled nova
straight backward
hushed bluff
straight backward
my back or boss back
uneven mason
You back
grizzled nova
for both oak and deios the frontal tracks, as soon as they start the cast, max range leap in a straight line away from the boss.
uneven mason
Boss back would spin him like a top
hushed bluff
for both oak and deios the frontal tracks, as soon as they start the cast, max r...
u mean i should be in middle of sky when he do it ?
undone verge
u mean i should be in middle of sky when he do it ?
grizzled nova
u mean i should be in middle of sky when he do it ?
shit cocnut beat me to it lol
I was doing the same thing
as soon as the cast starts max range leap
hushed bluff
ok thx
grizzled nova
if your friends are behind you on bosses with a huge front then leaping won't change anything
winged slate
You won't have friends if they're standing in the frontal
plush tendon
fair
was probably more thinking of making sure you go back as straight as possible
as to not alter the breath slightly to the right of left
pallid quiver
If you want to do that, keybind the camera flip button
grizzled nova
lol I wouldn't go that far
just pay attention to the fight timers, spin your camera when the frontal is coming up, go ish-straight back
your friends should be nowhere near the frontal
sick sentinel
i never figured out why , but last key i logged, the paladin gave me exactly 1 blessing of autumn before not giving me any more
i think they gave it to me in hopes i was a good player and would use it for dps
i also keep forgeting its not a ret ability and holy only
winged slate
I guess he was let down
sick sentinel
feels like something ret would have
he did it 3 times apparently, maybe it was some other log
toxic tiger
can the shadowflame patch pull mobs that are not in combat?
grizzled nova
can the shadowflame patch pull mobs that are not in combat?
You have to actually damage them to proc it.
winged flume
my fellow prot warriors, i have a question. Running 15MDI with some S3 gear, not tier, and S2 tier available. should i got for 4 set S2, or just go pure Ilevel/Stam? i can link raidbot simc
sick sentinel
yeah, i assume it doesnt pull non combat mobs
vocal nimbus
You only change old tier for new tier
marsh yacht
hey guys, does spell block only reflect once per mob?
grizzled nova
my fellow prot warriors, i have a question. Running 15MDI with some S3 gear, not...
keep s2 4p until you have s3 2p, then play 2p/2p, only replace s2 2p when you have s3 4p.
vocal nimbus
And only when you make at least 2p bonus
winged slate
Old tier is going to be worth like 25+ ilev, and you can easily get 450 4pc so there's no real reason not to use it until you have the new stuff.
winged flume
keep s2 4p until you have s3 2p, then play 2p/2p, only replace s2 2p when you ha...
its in Tournament realm, so im only able to use what is available
grizzled nova
hey guys, does spell block only reflect once per mob?
it only reflects once in general, unless you manage to hit multiple spells on the same server tick
marsh yacht
π¦
grizzled nova
which usually takes gaming mobs with CC to line up the cast at the same time
vocal nimbus
If you refer to spell block it will work for 30 sec blocking magic damage
What it sctually blocks is available at the spreadsheet
grizzled nova
spell block will block spells for the full duration, there's nothing per mob.
vocal nimbus
Spell block blocks
grizzled nova
reflect only reflects once in it's duration, but you retain the magic dr for the full duration regardless of where the reflect happens in it
vocal nimbus
Spell reflect reflects
winged flume
keep s2 4p until you have s3 2p, then play 2p/2p, only replace s2 2p when you ha...
you think i should just use 4pc S2 set then, if we're only doing M+15s across the board?
marsh yacht
right guys, thanks for clearing up the confusion, now I understand
toxic pewter
anyone know what is means when a dude keeps calling you 'clark' throughout a key lmao
i dont know this reference
grizzled nova
you're superman
pallid quiver
you think i should just use 4pc S2 set then, if we're only doing M+15s across th...
Generally, 2p2p will do you better in M+ due to the extra ilvl and prio dam, but it feels like I missed half the convo
grizzled nova
you think i should just use 4pc S2 set then, if we're only doing M+15s across th...
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for the tournament realm I dunno
undone verge
anyone know what is means when a dude keeps calling you 'clark' throughout a key...
I found an urban dict post saying it means being bad at everything
grizzled nova
why do 15s on the tournament realm at all?
undone verge
"(v.) Performing badly at almost everything; sports, video games, career, affairs of the heart etc. Person who exemplifies these traits."
toxic pewter
I found an urban dict post saying it means being bad at everything
lol sounds about right
winged flume
why do 15s on the tournament realm at all?
this MDI is 15s and how fast you can do them, and its against another team, so we do veto, pick a dungeon with specific affixes and race against them
gear wise, its S2 set pieces, and or 470 non set pieces
grizzled nova
You'll probably get more damage out of 4p, then.
winged flume
You'll probably get more damage out of 4p, then.
π
simc says yes, more dps with 4 piece, i just wasnt sure if i wanted more dps or survivability
sick sentinel
15's is low low for mdi
sick sentinel
a group of rats could probably time a 15
toxic pewter
ngl disc priest so good in rise.. pain suppression so good for final boss
ionic roost
Tbh for 15s there's probably a bunch of dungeons you just drop the healer
sick sentinel
disc is always fun, its a specialized class like protection warrior
ionic roost
And if you aren't allowed, just bring a resto druid to dos
winged flume
Tbh for 15s there's probably a bunch of dungeons you just drop the healer
yes, discussing that too. dos?
sick sentinel
mm hunter in key is like pwar
lusty tiger
Protpal, bm, outlaw, DH, x
sick sentinel
its like.. uhhh it will do... but it has som limitations
ionic roost
yes, discussing that too. dos?
Dps
winged flume
ah
grizzled nova
simc says yes, more dps with 4 piece, i just wasnt sure if i wanted more dps or ...
Yeh especially if you're judicious about timing last standing so you have 4p buff during large pulls, it'll definitely blast way harder than some extra ilvl will.
sick sentinel
MM just isn't really built for keys
or for raiding, or for pvp
its not built for crap it seems
winged flume
lol
cinder storm
I normally play frost or fire mage, I tried arcane last night and with poor play and 2pc from last season I was blasting with least thought process in low keys
median niche
Wich tank does the most damage in m plus?
cinder storm
Is arcane that easy now or was it always that easy?
sick sentinel
besides that its mana inttensive i still have no idea how the spam AE arcane mage build for keys isnt a thing
grizzled nova
Wich tank does the most damage in m plus?
blood/ppala/vdh are all similarly high up there
sick sentinel
they 2 charges instead of 1 if you hit X targets, which would be easy in keys
median niche
blood/ppala/vdh are all similarly high up there
so warrior is not even top 3?
grizzled nova
so warrior is not even top 3?
for overall m+ damage? no
cinder storm
Wich tank does the most damage in m plus?
The one with dream render 
sick sentinel
i always figured that was the REAL build for keys, you spam AE, and blasts and then you struggle not to spend all your mana before combat ends but enough to nuke the boss
plush tendon
arguably ST/Funnel is more valuable then just raw aoe
sick sentinel
cuz, mages still have frost nova and iceblock and a bunch of purge or dispell crap
free water for healer
median niche
lots of funnel off tier
funnel off tier?
sick sentinel
im too dumb to play a mage but i enjoy playing one if i can do the big numbers
grizzled nova
funnel off tier?
more targets = more rage = more IP = more fervid st damage
median niche
more targets = more rage = more IP = more fervid st damage
aha you mean 4 set
grizzled nova
nah 2p is the cause of the funnel, for the most part
lofty nexus
Team, I tried my first 20EB last night, got completely rekt on council fight. Dulhu was farming me. What's the play for prot warriors? Pool rage and spam IP for the charge?
sick sentinel
not really complaining but im still amazed that seeing red at 6 stacks is bugged that if you hit IP on 6 stacks, it immediately skips 7, and goes through to 8 and grants you VO,
grizzled nova
4p improves our aoe a lot through more tclap/thunderous roar
sick sentinel
been this way since 9.0
grizzled nova
consuming as much rend/deep wounds as possible is what causes all our extra ST, though
consuming thunderous doesn't actually make us do any more single target
cinder storm
I had erased that from my memory, thanks yogi
marsh yacht
is bloodborne talent bugged with rend? putting 2 points into it seems to not change the tooltip damage
bleak fern
what would you guys recommend crafting first? shield or wep maybe?
marsh yacht
rend does the same bleed damage with 2 points in bloodborne as without it
at least thats what the tooltip says for me
plush tendon
what would you guys recommend crafting first? shield or wep maybe?
if the craft options are shield vs wep, then shield always. Granted, I crafted my embellishment pieces since they wont change
and theres a nice shield off first boss
bleak fern
my shield is already embelished from last tier so I guess I'll upgrade that, thanks
uneven mason
IDK but you knew more than us
daring marlin
lusty tiger
vocal nimbus
Make warrior prot 2h viable
lusty tiger
we're getting ilvl scammed
vocal nimbus
Because he is not in prot spec
toxic pewter
why dont enh shamans take wf totem in m+ am i missing something here
undone verge
its probably a dps loss
grizzled nova
why dont enh shamans take wf totem in m+ am i missing something here
depends on the comp
toxic pewter
like surely a single talent point can be found to get it
grizzled nova
generally it's not worth unless it has 3 targets
toxic pewter
i see
uneven mason
right, so the one that doesn't kill you, is stronger π
opaque quest
Whats up with every dps standing behind tank in DHT runs
Skipped the first 3 weeks just to come back and see dps are even more braindead than last season
plush tendon
nothing tilts me more then seeing dps/healers running around aimlessly in Yazmas room
Ive seen some wild stuff
opaque quest
I had a tank pull the boss into the adds on yazma cause he was to dumb to press shift+j and read 1 sentence
plush tendon
I pugged Atal with two friends and the two other dps died halfway through the fight
we couldve brez both... but it was decided the fight was easier with less people
acoustic oasis
Around 3 minutes for 26%, both timed 20s ive done i ended up soloing 26%, or 40%, took around 6 minutes for the 40%
Both time the party was soy crying saying I was throwing
chilly brook
Idk why people are so smol brain on yazma
plush tendon
it was like that in BFA
dusky canopy
The boss doesnβt do enough tank damage witch Iβm okay with
chilly brook
Bosses are wildly inconsistent this season
sick sentinel
do we have full details about the giga axe
uneven mason
also the charge on duku or whatever in Everbloom
chilly brook
do we have full details about the giga axe
sick sentinel
cuz it was just a black background + red ? icon
dusky canopy
TLDR;
Costs about 1.5m to craft it currently.
βGg might loot it next week if Iβm luckyβ
uneven mason
I mean, long run, not that much
dusky canopy
Yeah Iβm not sweating it at all because surely Iβll loot it late and prices will have tanked
plush tendon
honestly, in a week or two, prices will probably normalize once people realize that they may not get it to drop this week
daring marlin
Yeah Iβm not sweating it at all because surely Iβll loot it late and prices will...
I'm manifesting you getting it next kill, brother.
plush tendon
idk who liquid gave their's to.... but I bet the best person to get the first one is the one whose willing to speed run the crafting quests XD
raw gyro
I've been looking at prot for an alt, who has the best guides?
sick sentinel
i cant wait until some worthy bdk gets it and shows its actually busted
plush tendon
they obviously dont need the lego to finish the raid XD
daring marlin
Augusto gonna get it
sick sentinel
give that shit to dorki
daring marlin
big bdk succ enjoyorrrr
sick sentinel
on his dk
jagged pier
idk who liquid gave their's to.... but I bet the best person to get the first on...
both bdks got them
grizzled nova
idk who liquid gave their's to.... but I bet the best person to get the first on...
scot's bdk
dusky canopy
I've been looking at prot for an alt, who has the best guides?
Is shield block active?
Y: Shield Slam
N: shield Block
Press all other buttons as much as possible
jagged pier
or paladins
jagged pier
cause it gives them all a charge
sick sentinel
you know the meme
jagged pier
for extra movement
pallid quiver
but warrior needs movement cough cough
raw gyro
Prot war 101
pallid quiver
Warrior needs the leggo
sick sentinel
but its bdk or dk in general gets that new axe
jagged pier
no adventurer needs it
pallid quiver
also it needs half the handle length
real fossil
warrior needs it or else they cant get into a high key pug
its gunna be funny in m+ content on whoever has it
sick sentinel
whenever the good bdk gets it
and brings it to keys or pvp or some shit, maybe thtas warrior for pvp, possible paladin
paladin seal of command used to big bonk, proably still a bit like that
sick sentinel
its gunna be funny in m+ content on whoever has it
5 legendary axe key
im pretty sure there is a way to do it, 4 at the minimum
like, u might be able to do 2 rets as "healers", 1 bdk 1 dps dk, 1 warior dps
queen hemlock
Sorry whats this new axe?
There is a legendary one handed axe?
pallid quiver
no it's a 2-hander
sick sentinel
2 h
pallid quiver
but wars can use it
undone verge
π
sick sentinel
.
pallid quiver
It'll probably start dropping as personal loot starting next reset
opaque quest
Na just needed 1 Mythic Fyrakk kill
pallid quiver
Sorta like Evoker leggo from last tier
opaque quest
To unlock the drops for everyone
queen hemlock
Oh ah
Cool
queen hemlock
To unlock the drops for everyone
Oj thats actually fucking cool
uneven mason
but if it's regular loot ho
Yeah that's going to go well with 3rets a UH and now a bdk (because our brm swapped to be a twaddle)
uneven mason
Loot spec locked on arms
pallid quiver
just steal that shit from the working class DPS just trying to eke out a living
i already have rageheart, it'd be worth; augury or drama
Gholash is the only thing I'd be missing out on
which is a shame, but
sacrifices must be made
uneven mason
I just want it so in prepatch when we get colossus warrior and can use 2h + shield
pallid quiver
but it'll be two seasons behind, then
They didn't update the Evoker leggo ilvl, did they?
well, just a season behind
grizzled nova
well, just a season behind
Season 4 will be fated, both the nazuro and fyralath will almost certainly be obtainable at relevant ilvl.
pallid quiver
Redo and recraft
plush tendon
pallid quiver
Also need the personal loot to drop again
Have to wait for WF Fated boss to be killed
no bad luck protection, either
plush tendon
im already mentally prepared for our Hpal or Prot War to get it first
grizzled nova
anyone know if you have to be in fury/arms loot spec to get it, or does it just drop for available classes?
sick sentinel
do i have to stand in melee of timeways or they melee the group
i died but not to that
its dead somehow
grizzled nova
fragments are the little sand balls
grizzled nova
almost certainly
sick sentinel
k col
grizzled nova
but that boss has a comically huge hit box
like you gotta run out of the arena to leave melee range, effectively
sick sentinel
cant charge final boss omegaluil
and on final
is it the small circle near the normal dps cirle, i have to soak it always? thats what group says
grizzled nova
yeh
group in the chromie circle, tank in the smaller soak circle closer to boss
you have to step forward after each knock back to stay inside
vocal laurel
Whats the best way to handle the small spiders in black rook hold? I swear my groups can't kill them fast enough
grizzled nova
aggro them and immediately kite
jagged blade
Whats the best way to handle the small spiders in black rook hold? I swear my gr...
Big dam 
real fossil
getting dispelled early is also a day ruiner
real fossil
asking the healer to wait on first dispell
jagged blade
priest pugs be giving me a headache this week
sick sentinel
they need to un-nerf timeways i think
unless its got it samcks the party when im not in melee crap
give it back the cone attack
torn gulch
timeways might not be hard for tanks but it's a nightmare for dps and healers
grizzled nova
2nd and 3rd boss both shit on pugs
torn gulch
it can be left as it is
sick sentinel
not really, light and dark and then avoid the obvious
sick sentinel
when you screw up the ring to be slow it can sometimes be unfair because thicc hit box
torn gulch
not really, light and dark and then avoid the obvious
at your key level you might not have problems but on 20+ that boss is rough
sick sentinel
true, but theres not much going on that fight at all right now
grizzled nova
Even if you do it right and dispel both in fast it's a fuckton of damage on top of other rot and dot damage
It very quickly gets unhealable unless you're doing defensives correctly
sick sentinel
im not sure exactly but isnt it dps want to always be in the light anyways which makes the dispels easy
real fossil
i like that there are a few large hps/healer check bosses
sick sentinel
i think the dark is only a dr
real fossil
you can tell who is a good healer
similarly last boss on rise for tank cd management
grizzled nova
That fight is a hard hps/defensive check.
3rd boss they need to nerf the damage on transfering the debuff.
That shit hits dps for like 500k, there's more than enough damage to manage as is.
sick sentinel
im mostly worried about final boss
sick sentinel
we did it on an 8 to 11 or something, and then we wiped back to back on that boss
after like, i said its easy oh you know type thing
grizzled nova
The only way to wipe in iridkron is to fail simple don't stand in the fire checks.
real fossil
tyrannical bosses at 8 vs 20+ may as well be different games
sick sentinel
well, i understand how that fight works now for the most part
real fossil
bringing my casual friends into higher keys and they realize they dont actually know the fights like they thought they did
sick sentinel
no
pallid quiver
but on the bright side, I was vibing the entire time
pallid quiver
I ended up soloing timeways and effectively solo DPS rushing Blight after the rest of the party died, taking corruption with them on P3
and then iridkron was
somethin'
vernal sky
How do you guys deal with Galakrond's first boss tankbuster?
just def stance + shout and help healer with impending victory?
undone verge
I usually just impending victory cause the healing absorb is only like 300k
grizzled nova
How do you guys deal with Galakrond's first boss tankbuster?
yeh it does pure physical damage so it shouldn't hit you for much damage.
the healing debuff happens irrespective of how much damage you take from the hit, just immediately victory rush it
and it only happens like once every 45s or so, it's very infrequent and shouldn't be a problem
uneven mason
Last stand will eat the healing debuff as well
vernal sky
and you live with just that?
i mean my warrior's currently 420 doing 10-14s but i take a massive beating
pallid quiver
I generally have to think about actually getting use out of my defensives in that fight
It's far from the scariest thing in keys atm
calm prawn
Going to try and tank 3 +18 falls tonight
Genuine question on tyrannical do you pull both the dragons before ooze or nah?
pallid quiver
That'll probably kill your group
Every ooze that dies near a dragon increases their damage for the next bit of time
lusty grotto
since the stacks are an enrage effect
wooden tinsel
I'm in need of some advice, what is the best way to handle "Temporal Breath". I'm rotating Spell block, Shield Wall and Demo Shout, but the dot is killing me. Can I use Spell reflect?
pallid quiver
Yeah, soothe will make it manageable for a healer
Since normally you take pretty negligible damage there
errant oriole
holy cow bears are more popular then prot wars what gives? O_O
pallid quiver
so adding yourself as a concern marker, plus double pulsing, can lead to dead groups
Doable, but I wouldn't do it in a pug
sick sentinel
lots of shamans (all) and more monk healers
i've been noticing, did they buff monk healer
pallid quiver
I'm in need of some advice, what is the best way to handle "Temporal Breath". I...
you can use spell reflect on literally any magic damage, before we get into anything else
Even if it doesn't reflect, it reduces the incoming damage
But you can leap every other breath to outrange the breath, making you take half the amount of breaths
sick sentinel
im not sure if the keys just giga baby easy but seemd like monk healer is stronger now
pallid quiver
After that, you should be able to Shield Wall a good number, you can get spell reflect active for at least most of every breath,
Spell Block only blocks the initial hit, but also blocks the casts of adds
calm prawn
Tbf I've never tanked 17s before so this has been a shocking experience
Didn't know it was this hard to die as prot.
pallid quiver
yeah no, tanks are very strong this xpac in general
It's only very easy to die as a tank if you're not playing very well at all
You can comfortably tank 20s at 440 ilvl
your party mates may be having worse of a time
calm prawn
Ya I had a blood dk hard solo +18 AD last boss at I'll 450
vernal sky
for the vast majority of the time im more worried about my mates dying than myself yeah
calm prawn
At like 40% but still
deep steppe
Hey guys, sorry I missed this answer if it was answered earlier. What sort of weapon enchant are people using?? I have the shadowflame one currently
chilly brook
Hey guys, sorry I missed this answer if it was answered earlier. What sort of w...
sophic or wafting depending on whatever sims better
sick sentinel
Ya I had a blood dk hard solo +18 AD last boss at I'll 450
dk can MC the green goop dudes all dungeon long
once it releases, dont kill it, let dk re - mc
1 per dk