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We have APB here
yes and you decided to troll because?
It's hard to sort the trolling from actual hot takes
they do not say sarcasm is the lowest form of wit for no reason
.>

naughty boi
Damn dude you had us convinced you were stupid

speak for yourself I look down on trolls and sarcastic individuals. I am a serious man
True I kinda am
apb peak serious
trolling is kinda not trolling if nobody gets mad though
I’m bored and respect my fellow prot warriors
stance against stances
Wanted a good laugh
But what is your stance on stances?
that's an very serious question for APB
dont get me started
!
u guys excited for vault
Beserker Stance unless in a portal on M echo than D stance that shit
no
yes
never be excited for vault then you don't get dissapointed
i dont know what that is APB
I'd take an aggressive stance on stances but they never made berserker available to prot
lol
im knocking on wood hard
always have low expectations
I'm more primed for vault than that mythic smolderon clip
My wood is knocking hard
Please tell me people have seen that
O_O
n_n
b_b
so I should use my first spark on bracers, and put 2 shadowflame embelishments on it
p_p
how would you do that?
if youre new to crafting, you can only put 1 on it
i mean hell if you can put more than one go for it (you cant though)
in the faq section
yes bracers and cloak
1 in bracer, 1 in cloak 🙂
1 + 1 = 2
who says we cant do math
Let me get a calculator, hold up
Keeping my neck just because I'm cheap
Stat gem and flavor pocket
And I can just ignore upgrading it until the end of time
Maybe I do exactly that with my spark
time to go log in to wow
486 neck with stat gem and a flavor pocket, never change it all patch

We opening vault as fury still I'm assuming?
That's my plan
im prob gonna do prot after all cuz i wont see mythic for a while
yogi open as prot
Or arms if you have a 1h
the only 2 things you want from vault as prot loot spec are a shield (which you can get in raid anyway) and/or cheat
rest you can get in fury
Cheat death trinkie
prophetic scales
from DOTI?
missing out on a lot of good trinkets on prot though..
yeah thats fine i guess
either way its not that important unless youre pushing high
doesnt bother me at all lmao cuz im only gunna run like 18s masx probably
we did a baby 17 this week
Do 20s yogi, don't let anyone tell you otherwise
and/or heart?
ya heart too
whatever happened to tanks can get dps trinkets in prot loot spec anyways
i swear they moved into that during bfa and then just backpedalled
To me, the most janked up loot spec thing is fury loot spec being fury lootpsec
There was a Fury warrior I ran with recently who didn't know that you could dodged 1H weps by being in Arms lootspec
so i have a wep now thank to him
yeah thats what i said earlier
its weird how
for fury you want arms loot spec
and for prot + arms you want fury loot spec lmao
It's also bugged according to my bear pals
Where do you all go to learn about the mythic dungeon mechanics, kicks, stuns, etc…? I see videos but each one is roughly 30 minutes per dungeon. If that’s the only way I’ll watch them but was looking for a faster way
quazii has dungeon guides
ram your face into them and see why you died
To the dungeons
Pretty much the single fastest way, though people will be less than happy most of the time
But people also aren't happy on good runs, either
so fuck 'em
pretty much
has anyone ever wondered why WoW players are so inclined to prepare beforehand
since forever
Don’t wanna get flamed
Just get in and punch shit, here at #protection we "Just send it". - Nomeratur, parrygodX 2023
Most overall goal of most people has always been to get loot to further their progression
I mean I’d just like to know what the mechanics are before I start doing keys
So this is an extension of that in the days after
Doing the content is not why most people play the game
I do, because early on if you did have enough resist X you were basically fucked
tbf ive done it so im not without fault, but it seems very common
fyrakk is actually a pretty cool fight
Another part is mechanics that heavily punish you for not being prepared in advance
Oh you mean like "reading strats"
Especially on healers end when damage is as spiky as it can be
As long as it's a tank and spank
Run low keys -> Dungeon is free and you learn a lot -> Repeat with slightly higher keys until you get stuck
Repeat enough times and you are now good at these dungeons
But in original eq, none of the original 5 bosses were t&s
Yeah in wow just doing will teach better than a guide
It's also fun to just run dungeons with friends and make mistakes
Since you don't have to run back naked from Freeport sewers
Watching my buddy disengage into a healer with growing paranoia will never not be funny
Roll/felrush/disengage bloopers are the best
Watching our hdh fel rush on nymue and just melt instantly because they went over a cross section
7 stacks instantly, yeah you done
Highly doubt it, they weren't that close to a kill + giving up a ton of reclear loot is shooting yourself in the foot
i feel like they cleared up to tswift fast enough
so reclear should be good but what do i know
Reclear is good even if it took them a while
The only way I'd see them extending is if they were at like sub 5% fyrakk
We can reflect it right? Does it always target the tank?
no, it typically DOESNT target the tank is the gimick on that mechanic
but we used to be able to kick it, which triviliazed the fight
I think it always prioritizes someone other than the tank
it likes to go on the casters and healers
if it goes on healer, oh well, they have to self heal
u havent seen it on tyranical yet is why
try doing that fight on a 20 or 22
THEN come back
if you have to move boss more than twice it turns to shit
yeah wracking pain goes not on tank
unless people are dead
time to invite dps warrs

hate rezan cus dps dont know how to position themselves
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and instead of just running to the next pillar by being on his right side
wow's supposed to be my haven from m y fighting game withdrawal
they just get ate after running over 20 dinosaurs
i agree, riot because servers down
BRING THOSE MOTHER FUCKERS UP
my favorite's when they run that far and get warp distance eaten
"ok boomkin, can you roar when he does pursue"
"That puts me in bear form"

i don't know what causes it to happen, but I've seen it twice
it happened to me once
cus he lusted / rolled / whatever
Yeah I haven't seen him not grab someone yet

Wtf is the issue with ur druid being in bear from for like, 3 gcds possibly
like legit I think if they run into the water he just noms them
1 GCD
seems lul to me
It is lul
Bro Rezan is so fucking slow now idk how you get caught
and its the mentality of PUGs this season
well, yeah, im giving them benefit of doubt that they want to run somewhere or press some combat button like a heal or debuff or whaever the hell it is druids do
he learned how to use a grappling hook or some shit
You're off shopping in Akihabara in Japan and you just open a damn door and you're in dino belly zone
How long is maintenance today? I’m stuck at work for a few more hrs
It's supposed to end in 30m
Ahh cool thanks
its a huge dps loss to have melee chasing him around
and monkers for when he does fears that send u into the purple baby dinos
so, what i do is
NA servers up
blue barrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
if my vault's bad, I'm peeing on the carpet
this is how i do rezan and it works pretty good
keeping the party in the water, they only create babies if they get giga bad fears
didnt think people needed a diagram on how to do rezan lmao
We want the dps trinket off of fyrakk, not the tank one correct?
yeah well, wait till u lose all ur dps window cuz someone lusts and shaman kites hi m to the moob
melee running after cant do rotation
first of all
freakin area 52 loading sucks ass
why is lusting bad?
its not
second of all
but its where u would lust this week
kiting to mobs is also not bad
damn I should have done more higher level keys
not really yogi
My last dungeon slot is a tier helm, but it's on 463 because I didn't hit enough keys last week
You do want the dps on the other side to run to the other pillar (that's how I did it back in bfa)
i just bring a shaman tbh
you do it exactly like you did in bfa
or los
losing is faster than waiting on tremor
well this is the way i did it in bfa lol
at least the higher ilvl helm has leech i guess
i dont do him on the land just makes healer life hell
What spec you guys opening vault in?
if we arent mythic raiding, we are still opening as fury right? buncha bad tank trinkets to avoid?
there's actually some decent trinkets for prot spec in raid in general
gonna be so pissed
The better ones are DPS specs, tho
my hose town ritual was succesfull
did u forget to play the game?
balls
i didnt mean to cast it at you but i guess it had to go at someone
fuuu got the heroic fyrakk 1h axe in my vault.. lol do i take it over tier u think
if they arent mythic track, why not take the trinket and farm legs natty?
Is that a heroic Gholak? Take it and run
yes
Gholak lookin spicy
that's BIS even at heroic ilvl
Is it worth going for the Crafted helmet?
heroic fyrak weapon so nice
sick
With shadowflame?
Its gonna be bis until you do him on mythic
We put shadowflame on cloak / bracers
an edited clip of the Angry Video Game Nerd
Original Video:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofM11nPzFo0
no
yeah i cant not take the weapon.. its just too good lol
crafted helm is garbage
Going to wait and see what drops tonight, but most likely champoin tier piece and hopefully get another? Crab trinket is big yikers yes?
Why wrists and cloak?
CRAB
wait is hero higher than champion?
crafted gear caps 3ilvl lower than mythic track
im only memeing atm but i mean, holy mastery
so its the lowest impact
Got it, that makes sense
Vet > CHamp > hero > Myth
is the progression
(those are arrows not greater signs)
wait vet adv champ hero myth
always forget adv
can someone explain to me why we are crafting embellished items before 1h and shield? my sims are saying the later is far more impactful
or whatnoebveer
Would ring be viable since it only provides secondary stats or nah?
Think the rationale is that the first boss drops shield and you want fyrakk wep anyway
In the long run because the bracer and cloak are lower impact to overall total str
There's very easy to grab shields and weapons this season is the biggest thing
And the Fyrakk wep particularly is so stronk that it beats higher ilvl weps pretty often
in the raid
fair enough
you can get the AD 1 hander if you dont get lucky with a gholak drop
how do i check the stats that will be on tier gear
wowhead
Press Shift + J
or that
There's a tab for item sets
pants it is then
IIRC pants/gloves/chest all have good secondaries?
this is week 2, you shouldnt be looking at stats
get the set bonuses, forget stats, disregard helm after
I looked at the important stat of ilvl
because i can turn it into tier and get set bonus later
but that all stems from me being fighting game focused this past week so I didn't do enough content to get high ilvl in all slots
feels bad
I chose this.
good pick
wdym 
that's ElvIU?
ye
he's cheating over there
pink class though
Still in week 1 too 🙂
chipadin is abandoned 😢
Idk im just dpsing boss tbh
at least for this week lul
is branch a decent trinket or is the CD kinda long? I have this or a heroic track shield to pick in vault.... shield is probably the winner but wasnt sure if the branch was simming well
Warrior had to be abandoned 

ofcourse my DH gets hero teir
and my druid
and my DK
but not my warrior
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
For vault, is it better for wep, shield or legs? All big Ilvl upgrades but wep is 473 others are 470
unless there is a reason not to i will just recraft current belt
yogi ignoring everything, classic yogi
gotta do 18's to get that gear lol
well i suppose youre right
do ya''ll use curseforge or something else for addons in WoW?
i use curseforge
curseforge is alright, i dont know of a better alternative if thats what you are really asking
what i say about wow up is you do you boo
if you like the shit you like, good, i guess
getting turned down from raid groups for not being aotc already smh
should've joined the liquid splits
strange, i dont use that one at any rate
I use curseforge because I play some Minecraft modpacks so whynot just run wowmods through it is my thoughts

when i hit this button i get ~~ 5,500 shield slam dmg lol
That is how ap works
im just saying thats alota dmg
do we even have a way to get fire and nature damage? raidbots telling me to take this neck but seems meh
Is that the idiotic shield neck?
probably
ya
lol
it's not necessarily terrible
2nd time I've heard this mentioned, what neck is this?
What are your options
that is my only options .. the rest is super bad
Drops as a rare from the worm
Always a socket!
That looks uh
I'm assuming you don't lose stat budget for the effect?
If not then it's just a necklace
I wouldn't even care about the effect
just a neck with 83k absorb every min... which is so minor imo
Yeah, I'm hoping it's free because that 1x minutes is just cringe
and not even that if you dont even take nature damage
where's nome's 2set weakaura
If it's an upgrade just use it 🤷 the effect has nothing to do with how it sims
neck without haste
Rare flavor item is pee flavor
🙂
Either that or take socket
honesty socket enjoyer
No haste on neck is kinda bad but if you want it for short term upgrade there's no harm in it
Stock up on socket so you can get a mythic ring
weapon or head
Weapon will be replaced by fyrak weapon, helm can be swapped to tier and last forever @fossil cloud
do I even need a weakaura for 2set or can I just kinda play as normal and it'll benefit me passively
you kinda want to track rend
ty :)
u guys think i should sell this ring for 100k gold
I would honestly
What spec do I open vault as this week
Not fun stats
can i get more than 100k u think lol
its not a boe LOL
I mean thats not a boe
Ah.
If u dont get any higher bid from raid
guy messaged me asking if i want to sell it
Then thats what you get
Can u even trade it
yeah apparently i can O_O
even though i only have 1 467 ring so far not sure what going on with it
i thought i needed 2 rings of same ilvl to trade it
Is rage spent on execute in dungeons?
or is it more towards the end when not alot of dmg is taken?
Okay what spec do I open vault on?
i had forgotten that its wing 2 of lfr
replaces revenge in the rotation on 1-2 targets
more tier availability
We get our second tier piece token this week or is that next week?
Prot for now I'd say
if u mean catalyst that should be next week
if its every other now
just installed ElvUI wewlad it's too much
it takes a while to go through it all
and you can tweak literally anything
so its a bit overwhelming
is augury truley as good as it sims?
Already have weapon from fyrakk and shield from everbloom. Think opening vault as arms is the move?
Any thoughts on the new helmet w/ the shield embellishment?
no thoughts
head empty
yeah im about to uninstall this all it looks cool but
i can't even edit the chat box size
480 belt or 460 tier...that belt is looking interesting
higher ilvl? you can always catalyst a higher piece into tier if you find one
You can, just gotta find the settings
honestly it feels like tier from vault is a bit of a bait, since it's relatively easy to get outside of it
Is wracking pain reflectable?

yes but it is usually never cast on tank
Hmmmm
Lotta reflects are not priority towards tank sadly
Shame, that's gonna be a spicy meatball this week
It's their way of making sr less impactful without nerfing it
20 tyrannical, 450k upfront, 212k every 2 sec
is it dispellable now or just have to eat it?
Makes me wonder how a non tank will survive
Good thing most DPS have insane defensive kits
We must play with differnt dps
But for feral/boomkin
Having the button is different than pressing the button
Wisdom
Most pug DPS smoothbrain their rotation and think anything that causes them to stop DPS is a healer problem
Like watching hdh eat shit to dots when they literally have an immunity
Ya, most dps there use their cds to run over spiders
Augury of the Primal Flame thoughts with the prot warrior ?
You can definitely edit the chat box size
Are we still rocking 2x shadowflame patches?
Yeah
90% of elvui is just finding that one setting you want
10% crashing to Lua error in xpac release
PREACH!
Y’all ever heard of “fishing”?
you shouldnt really need to track rend/fervid right i mean you just remember to press TC
Yeah there's no real need to track it. Proper play will take care of it
tier set is just automatic as long as you play right
but its definitely gonna be a few missed TCs cus it resets so often
so if anything have something for that ig
unless 4p shows you
I would assume it triggers an action bar glow but I don't have the tier yet so
How do i get my heroic throw to hit multi targets? wwhat am i missing?=
a shame cus iits a cool talent
Thanks!
That's how I describe my encounters with you to other people
damn, that takes me back to my panda raiding days
Guild that took me in said they mostly raided with people that were fuinny or good
honestly
good mix
20 sweaty tryhard that are frustrated are no fun to raid with regardless of how good they are
gotta have the class clown
I asked which I was
They said I was kinda weird in that I was both
at least they didn't leave me in the dark
so where do we get the drakes dreaming crest
enchanting vendor

welcome back to wow
there shouldn't be any reason why it would now
new banner vid when
but, if i run an AD ill do it just in case
Intervene melees only 
i've been playing just not been as active in here
because pwarr is hella easy so there's not much need for collaboration as there was in SL
On top of that, Sense's sheet has Wracking currently as not reflectable, so I'm wondering if it is even reflectable at all
and if you can't play it well atm you're beyond saving
as of the hotfix today, it is
ooh neat
I'm just here for the occasional 
the spreadsheet isn't up to date
yeah it should be reflectable now
Intervene only works on physical ranged attacks I'm pretty sure
like gunshots or arrows
it works on most non spells
agreed
the yazma reflect really doesn't mean anything for us though sadly
Since she doesn't target the tank with it unless bad things happen
its good for dps warriors at least
honestly it's gonna do DAMAGE
it should do
it should yeah
ah ok thank you!
looks like raid build has ITF, are we just playing around block uptime gaps
we have some other thing we have to reflect, shadow claws basically
that or block, that sort of hurts too
You should still have 3 block talents, which gives you 100% uptime
hotfix has changed this
Coming back to the game after quite a break to prot warrior. What crafting piece should I grab?
Not really because wracking never goes on us until it doesn't matter
what does the debuff do?
On wracking? It's just a dot
I see which one you mean; yeah, there might be gaps with literally 0 base haste
i assume we still gotta take the dream portal despite the tree actually being in azeroth now
but the sheer amount of stats we have in S3 make that
unlikely
Particularly since that build you only use with full T31, since you still use Bolster with T30 on
yeah, it puts strain on healer is basically what it does
It does
ok so....WRISTS are a good slot to craft with my spark, correct? because the 4 piece tier set is head, shoulders, legs, gloves?
so healer gets caught out by other mechanics
However, I am concerned about the fact that wracking can literally happen right after a soulrend
which does a ton of damage
Head shoulders knees and toes
people are gonna get wombocomboed and you won't be able to do anything about it
Wrists and Cloak are the go-to shadowflame embel spots
oh wait shoulders, chest, legs, gloves
Since they're the least impactful stat budget wise
is the new design of not making her kick able to makethe tank run out for bait mechanic as well?
No, there's zero reason for the tank to run out for that mechanic
Yes the tank does not get a clone, so there's no reason for you to be out there
so i should now?
This does not change that
i thought the tank gets a clone and the claws or some other thing is reflectable on u and reliable, could be blocked, i'll figure it out
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/protection/bis-gear#bis-gear-mythic no where on here is crafted ever a BiS
so it's just a placeholder?
If you got a clone then you would have had to be there already
maximum myth is +3ilvl
but, for me, im casual and i will only see 483 anyways
i'll just craft wrists then
WE SLAMMING
grats. what that drop from?
the vault
- BiS lists are shit for a reason
- Embellishments are a bigger dps increase than 3 ilevels
- Cloak and bracers have very tiny stat budgets, which is why we craft those, because the 3 ilevel difference on them will be even smaller.
on top of that, the crafted embel items are just entirely separate from their bis lists; they just don't put those there
they have their own section


poggers gz
so uh im guildless and want an aotc kill. how much they going for?
It's also not hard to bum one off a friend later on
I wouldn't really trust guilds selling it this early anyway
probably like that dude in BFA who sold "ra-den kills" for 40k in trade but really it was just him inviting you to ra-den pugs
ok, ty for explenation
Primal Molten Vambrances it is
Don't hate on the hustle
anyway i made out like a bandit in the normal raid i hit just on a whim today, i now have new trinkies and tier
is the play to open vault as Arms?
It depends on what you need/are looking for
Aotc shouldn't be that hard to pug as you get gear
This, also; raid's not too hard overall
Prot if you want shields or trinkets marked as tank
Fury if you want Gholak but not shields or tank trinkets
Arms if you don't want 1h/shield/tank stuff
only Fryak will be hard to pug at first
failing the seed mech is like a wipe

I'm gonna be pugging the hell out of heroic Fyrakk soon cause I need to start stacking that blp asap
honestly i think larodar is harder to pug conceptually
Messing up seeds is basically a wipe on normal too so not a big difference
More body interaction forced and required; you can bring like two trusted friends and solo handle the seed mechs
If you have turbo DPS you need less seeds to live
unless you need a lotta time, then you need more friends
That's any boss.
There's lots of bosses that are free even without DPS
But even then, it's not that hard conceptually to coordinate since it's individual skill there
Of course the boss dying faster meaning less mechanics to possibly mess up
There's also just a big difference between skipping pass/fail mechancis, and skipping other stuff
Like Tindral needs everyone to help with steppin' on seeds, Larodar needs DPS to soak/kill trees and roots with heals properly healing,
Which tend to be harder than "Hey jackhat A, grab seed, don't get hit with seed"
I pugged heroic igira at 3am just to get a heroic raid vault slot and man, healers struggle on the intermission soaks and I didn't know why.
It's damage but didn't seem oppressive damage
Did it as arms and an impending was usually enough for me.
I've seen a lot off healers just be straight out unable to heal through the heal absorbs, so the only solution was to save it for last and kill her before they blew up
I had both gholak and th shield drop on the same raid run and i won both of them this week has been good
which is concerning
Gholak is insane. It's a full stat budget weapon so the proc is all bonus right?
yes
a heroic one is second bis behind the mythic one
jakey did some sims and it was beating 489 weapons by like 1k+ dps
I only have normal so far and even that is doing a ton of damage on single target
Yeah my normal axe is ~3-4% of my total damage in M+
Lowkey, makes me a bit sad for the dagger/sword casters, ranged hunters, agi 1h specs
If you really want to make them jealous, earn the legendary and tank with that equipped
I totally am getting the leggo on blood dk
I'm a cow, I'm big enough for that to be a 1H wep
Do we know what it looks like already?
it's the axe fyrakk is holding iirc
so
that
except probably slightly different
hmm read through all of WoW'heads guide but didn't see anything about gems or enchantments
Go to consumables
@strong forum any dungeons where you might not run spell block?
ty...the one section i guess i missed
what slots should i be putting embellishments on? I am trying to figure out what piece to catalyze+aotc token
Your two free tier pieces are whichever 2 you don't get elsewhere, ideally
This probably been asked a bunch but is prot having a bad time with Deios, last boss of Rise, or is it just me?
Yes we're getting fucked, it just got nerfed, it's still going to fuck
yer that why u leap out of every other one
It's the dots from the ads right?
yeah true, was waiting on vault, took augury and now have to figure out what to take before mythic tonight 🙃
our token got low balled last week and still have 2 aug ahead of me
I think in a perfect world you skip helmet
But yeah sometimes shit happens
You've got a whole season to fix it
@jagged pier go to bed
Dot from adds won't target tanks, but it will cause the healer to lose a GCD dispelling. Their normal casts also make hurty when combined with the breath, hence why reducing their damage smooths your damage
and why leaping out of every other breath makes life very comfy
at least in comparison
Right so I'm just eating his frontals for fun and that's the problem, sick.
Thanks lol
It should be stated that iirc you can only leap every other breath with bounding stride talented
so make sure to have that rocked just in case
Since the breaths are about 20 seconds apart last I had checked
Is this correct about bounding stride and also jumping away.. you just jump once he starts casting it?
Yep, max range leap; I recommend taking a step or two away after, too, just to be safe
because it'd suck a lot to misjudge and take a breath 100% unmitigated because you expected to just entirely negate it
That's like 3 hours past your bedtime old man
Did you spec as fury to get the Gholak? or did it show up in prot?
its in the prot loot table
ahh cool!
I am a 440 item level. In my vault, I can choose a veteran track set piece for my 2 piece bonus (441), or a Champion Track Belt Haste/vers with a socket (454), I also have a Hero track Helm (467, Haste/master).
For focusing only on Mythic+, which is the better option?
what level keys do you generally end up doing
Is it not also in fury loot table then?
I get close to KSM at the end of the season, but dont' always get it.
Hero track helm then
i only ever missed ksm in 9.0 or 9.1
highest you're likely to get
im pretty sure it was 9.1
u got less of a chance of getting it
as it has 2handers as well
How strong is the 2 piece for mythic +?
you equip 2 + 2 set piece (this tier and last)
if you only have 2/4 new
god damnit, that versa trinket went off 1 entire time in the entire key i just ran
Sounds like crap
so where do yall get the splintered spark of dreams?
ive only gotten one this week
having done everything
You get half a spark each week
Week "0" as it were gave a full one
Half last week, half this week, half til they change it
did all 5 LFR bosses no loot ree
how we looking overall for M+ ?
Yo
Solid
Breaking old 2pc feels like shit
Are we sure 15% less shield damage is worth the thunderous roar increase @strong forum
My shield slam went from 35k to 29k
Feels like dog shit
I'm thinking about keeping 2pc 2pc
You should never drop a set bonus unless you're replacing it with another set bonus
max m+ vault is 483 right
is that maxed out path as well or upgradeable
dont remember if they changed that
483 max vault 489 max upgraded
kk thanks
Who got the thickest vault?
how bad is frostfire belt and a shadowflame patch compard to 2 shadowflame patch
and how bad it is to put shadowflame on a shield?
For m+ absolutely, for raid, just sim
What about them
Every Sim I see doesn't factor mobs attacking you
Yes so how can we get accurate numbers?
I'm completely lost
Wait
Sims are accurate
Link me
Who told you sims aren't accurate?
I thought they didn't factor mobs hitting us
They do
Raidbots
Nvm i just misrembered this quote apparently
It does
That's so fucking cringe
For like 3 years
Yeah this is my first year being involved seriously with try harding
I played classic before

That's so wild
i ask stupid questions all the time
thats how you eventually become less stupider

how much better is 2 shadowflame patch than a shadowflame patch and frostfire blet
it depends on how high you get
like if you cant get past 486 ilvl, then SF + Belt are pretty even
i usually get the portal from 20s and thats it
if you can consistently get vault capped gear, then belt just falls
Just back after a 4 month hiatus. Just got tier 31 2 piece. Is there a WA to track the proc?
just gotta up those items
oh im stupi
you can just recraft a ffb to 486
i just assumed it was capped at 447 cus
486 is max lvl craft yea
489 is max vault myth track
so if you can get 489 pieces, its better to do cloak + bracers
if you wont and cant, then belt is an option
alright
its all because belt has a lot more stats, so a 489 belt with bracers/cloak which have minimal stats as embellishes is a better option than having a belt max at 486 (and/or less stat pieces like a cloak or a bracer at max ilvl)
thats a nono
but last season craft gear was highest ilvl
cause you want the highest ilvl shield
always
ilvl on shield means more block value
yeah
that you cant get anywhere else
Okay
Do I do
2pc 2pc
for M+?
or does earthen smash still annihilate until i get 4pc?
I'm assuming it's t30 until i get 4pc
New 2pc does more than old 4pc
Do I do the new talent build with this 2pc 2pc?
Or send same until 4pc?
I assume don't take thunderlord til 4pc
Same talents
No. Intervene doesn't intercept spells.
The weekly damage build can be used without the new 2pc or 4pc?
I need to Sim it before I make any conclusions
But 2pc 2pc to me felt better for single target damage
I'll Sim it and post update
I also need to Sim if bloodborne would do more dps over 1.5 minutes vs ravager
Well Nome mentions in the pins that 2+2 can be better for st
U use the talents listed below that, the top pinned talent builds are for 4pc
And even has a build specifically for it
Ty Sir!
Might be a silly question. But for crafted bracers are we doing SF embel, or the allied wrist guard ones for the vers embel? I see people doing both.
Sf
Thanks
The buff from our 4pc, it refreshes when you shield slam with proc right
I can't tab target and stack higher DR?
remember to reset wcm before zoning in boys
On mobile so excuse me if this is wrong, but are we dropping both shockwave and stormbolt when we have 2pc 2pc?
Correct
No
Should i open vault in fury/arms loot spec to get chance of doti trinket? Is there a difference on other armor slots?
well fury if you still want 1h
usually just open in prot til you have a shield
but if you can get it from first boss ez then
Your mom
Hhshbden
Maybe this is a stupid question so sorry in advance if it is but are we using shield block in raid when not actively tanking just for the shield slam damage buff or saving them for active tanking uptime? Or with good play should I have it up 100% of the fight regardless?
its a good question
I don’t really raid, only M+. You’re saying we should be opening vault as fury?
But shield is generally our 3rd craft?
But like idk if it’s worth not just crafting at 486
this felt meaty
Should I hol doff on getting a Hero piece to make two set, the only piece I can make tier is 460.
What level* of content are you planning to do this week?
Hoping to push 18's+\
So I would not catalyst anything less then hero track imo
Well what did you get?
That’s good! Now just farm a hero track and you’re chillin
Yessir
Sometimes I close my eyes and imagine a rage spender that does single target damage instead of revenge
Is there a pin that has our BIS Craftable gear? I cant see anything but I think I read its Wrists and Cape?
Yes
Crafted pieces are below ilvl cap this tier
So you want them on the lowest stat budget items
Wrists/cloak
execute?
Execute with no health requirements
Which wrists are they? Allied Companionship?
Do we open Vault as prot?
Is there a link to explain? What is shadowflame?
Its like an item you attach to crafted gear
It is an embellishment that can be attached to a crafted armor piece
Ah copy
Whats the general consensus? 2 Shadowflame is better or?
About even
its there
Shadowflame is the largest of dps increase
Honestly I like the haste pants a lot
So many random fucking things spawn now when shit dies
And so many boss fights have adds in them
It's been nice
Yeah
and legs
3
I regret nothing
I want to live In a world where I can run Into the fray and no enduring defense
Yeah I don't disagree
Dooo we open Vault as Protection? Or going for DPS trinkets?
praying for 4p
Depends. Opening as prot gives you tank trinkets + shield. Opening in fury still gives fyrakk weapon and also gives dps trinkets. Tier drops for everything though
Do the allied wristguards sim assuming its at max stacks?
The moment you burn your catalyst charge on boots without paying attention and now still don’t have 2pc. Excuse me while I go off my self



