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jagged pier
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wow classic so hard

inland raft
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Its hard finding 40 people with same schedule

jagged pier
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not when it takes 20 mins to do a raid

lusty tiger
sick sentinel
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i tuned into my guilds discord stream of them doing 10.2 raid on normal mode and one of the tank was random bear in average gear, literally clicking all used abilities

inland raft
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I mean could take 5 minutes still need a majority to consistently be free at same time every week

sick sentinel
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not extended truth story

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no, fully true

inland raft
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Thats the only difficulty in classic

sick sentinel
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never hits a single keybind ever

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except to walk

grizzled nova
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I played with a one armed mage for a while

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moved with their feet, clicked all their abilities tho

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a legitimately good player, they were consistent purple mage clicking their rotation

inland raft
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Ya i played classic with only one barely functional arm for a while

grizzled nova
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watching their stream was like someone playing an aim trainer on wow

inland raft
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If can click a couple buttons and move your character once every minute or so your good

hardy snow
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forgoten experiments are interesting after mass dispel nerf SweatPopcorn

silent vessel
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wtf is this stupid dreamsaber mount

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i had it 2 times in a single flower

blazing condor
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based

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also very off-topic but why the hell does Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Win + L open LinkedIn

opaque quest
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Dont do it

blazing condor
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nah i wouldnt do anything to get me banned

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not tryna fuck ppls pcs

opaque quest
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Yeah na i know

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just memeing

blazing condor
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its just the most cursed shortcut ive seen

opaque quest
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Curious how mach Linkedin paid windows

blazing condor
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big bag for microsoft honestly

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cus aint no one gonna use that shit

opaque quest
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I always press Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Win + L

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You dont? Missing out

blazing condor
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nah i dont

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cus i never take L's

opaque quest
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Shift + Ctrl + Alt + Win + W

blazing condor
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dont do it

opaque quest
silent vessel
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well afaik is linkedin part of microsoft corp

opaque quest
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26 bil

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Wtf

blazing condor
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what a waste

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when you can just make an account for free like i did

lusty tiger
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XD

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u got quite the deal

opaque quest
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Doggie figured it out

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Next Bill Gates

blazing condor
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watch me jump TWO chairs

lusty grotto
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burning out and passed torch are bugged

fierce moss
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m+ isn't dropping the new crests right?

lusty tiger
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right

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you gotta plant seeds for that

sick sentinel
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it looks a bit funny on cows

lusty tiger
fierce moss
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warr sets either look fkn badass on cows or dumb as hell

blazing condor
fierce moss
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like s14 grievous set looks amazing on tauren, the uldir plate set looks ridiculous

toxic pewter
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still dont understand why people liking the new tier set appearance.. i must be missing something O_O

blazing condor
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think its because covid is still spreading everywhere

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leaving ppl without taste

wind oak
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last good warrior set was Antorus

blazing condor
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BoD was good

jagged gust
blazing condor
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i also liked CN

jagged gust
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It's somehow easy to forget CN was a part of SL

blazing condor
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yeah

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even though it was a thing for 9 months

opaque quest
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CN is pog

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I still use the chest with DK cm

jagged gust
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It was like "Let's just take a break from the afterlife and the horrors of the abyss and fight some vampires in a castle"

blazing condor
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jailer made me do it

cinder nova
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Are we crafting week 1?

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I feel like that's a bait move, but I also don't know anything about gearing meta

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Only how to bootyclap as a tank

sick sentinel
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TW updated

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time to go terrorize time walking on dk

plush tendon
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gonna wait a week or so and see how things play out

blazing condor
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send it to me and ill craft the crest okayge

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1m tip pls

plush tendon
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ima just do my usual approach; hoard resources early then boom

sand pebble
crystal mauve
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Did I miss something or ignore pain now take 4 casts to be maxed capped instead of 2?

mild sorrel
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I like to completely mess up everything week 1. Just gives me more content to do. deadge

uneven mason
warm plinth
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Ignore Pain has no cast # that determines when it caps

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It's capped at 30% max hp

crystal mauve
lusty grotto
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total hp

warm plinth
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Vers, str, and weapon damage

lusty grotto
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oh

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yeah

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anyway nothing changed

topaz fable
lusty grotto
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2 expansions ago sure

warm plinth
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Not any time recently

lusty grotto
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before SL

uneven mason
topaz fable
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My weakauras tracking it broke.

uneven mason
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Never forget

warm plinth
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Legion was also 90% reduction too. Shit was wild

uneven mason
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90% absorb, the age of - full HP, or get hit hard enough to be 1 shot

lusty grotto
uneven mason
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And that one shot was probably in the 500million raw mark

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Literally surviving planets hitting us

warm plinth
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Argus lawl

cinder nova
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New PVP talent for Prot does actually look kinda spice ngl

balmy pawn
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First spark is still shield, right?

opaque quest
vocal flame
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Silly question but are we replacing last season tier gear with blues? For a higher ilevel lol

strong forum
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no

strong forum
vocal flame
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So ilevel > all just on everything else then!

strong forum
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yes

balmy pawn
cinder nova
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yeesh our tier colors look god-awful

opaque quest
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So happy im a main Unholy that just offclassed as prot this season

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DK looks fire in every color

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I guess normal looks ok for warr

cinder nova
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Normal is honestly the only one that doesn't look fugly unless you got a color-theme mog going on

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ooo the mythic one is yikes

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I didn't even notice that

strong forum
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i think the mythic one is best lol

cinder nova
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Everything clashes tho

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Even the reds don't match

cinder nova
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And the blue highlights...

strong forum
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blue highlights?

cinder nova
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Who was in charge of these color variations lol

strong forum
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huh

opaque quest
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I have no idea which blue highlights you mean

cinder nova
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bro yall got eyes or we just got a bunch of colorblind people

lusty grotto
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bro

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what

cinder nova
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Random-ass patches of blue with this ugly slate grey and thomas the tank engine red

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Shit is ugly as hell

lusty grotto
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i could say the same about your opinion šŸ™‚

opaque quest
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Didnt even notice the undershirt

strong forum
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doesnt look that bad if you ask me

opaque quest
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But i like the blue clashing. Gives some contrast

strong forum
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šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

cinder nova
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There's a difference between contrast and clash

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And this is clash

strong forum
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tauren diff

cinder nova
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Like, whoever designed this has never taken colour theory of any kind guaranteed

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And if they did

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they completely ignored it

lusty grotto
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dont care looks great

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this is like arguing with my gf about fucking color names jesus christ

grizzled nova
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normal looks excellent

strong forum
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actually

opaque quest
strong forum
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LFR looks really good

cinder nova
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I mean like it if you like it, but mythic looks like it was drawn in by a 5 yo

grizzled nova
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lfr is good too

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heroic and mythic can miss me

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I'll be mogging normal

strong forum
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heroic and both pvp version are ass

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normal is boring

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rest is ok

cinder nova
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The blue works in LFR because the majority is this neutral gray with mild red glows at the top

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So it's literally the color being added with the brass fittings

lusty grotto
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autism

opaque quest
lusty grotto
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is a serious condition

cinder nova
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bet you goons think jeans and a solid color tee is drip

opaque quest
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Me in jeans with a blue solid shirt

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IT ISNT?

cinder nova
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Man if you like this I don't wanna see how y'all dress yourselves

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Heroic kinda reminds me of Salamander marines.

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I don't hate it.

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Just Mythic that has the color coordination of a grade schooler trying to dress up like a firetruck.

lusty grotto
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ok bro

grizzled nova
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no one is arguing mythic looks good

cinder nova
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Glad gear got done dirty because it's just a slightly different LFR kekw

cinder nova
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Got some mythic color stans here keks

grizzled nova
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blizzard just always makes mythic the offensively saturated color scheme because it's attention grabby

lusty grotto
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have you ever heard

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different strokes for different folks?

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or

cinder nova
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Yeah but some mythic sets looked good. VOTI mythic was pretty tight

lusty grotto
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opinions are like assholes

opaque quest
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VOTI mythic was turbo ugly

cinder nova
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bro what

opaque quest
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Yikes

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Whats the green belt

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That clashes

cinder nova
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I wish I could rip the gem out of that thing.

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Not a lot of belts look good because they're too narrow or don't fit the really odd colouration otherwise.

opaque quest
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Tauren problem again

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Play a real race

cinder nova
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I didn't hate ATSC either, but the shoulders/helm just never really appealed to me.

opaque quest
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Problem solved

cinder nova
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Imagine not wanting to be part of the fridge meta gameplay

opaque quest
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I dont play dwarf either

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But nice try

cinder nova
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dwarf aint fridge

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Dwarf is literally sub 5 ft tall wat

opaque quest
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You wanna tell me tauren looks more like like a fridge than a dwarf?

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Dwarfs are also 5 ft wide

cinder nova
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Considering it doesn't need a box to see over the kitchen counter yeah keks

toxic pewter
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Earthen about to be over 5 foot tall

cinder nova
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Your shields can literally be used as vault doors half the time

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inb4 earthen racial is just as busted kekw

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I wonder if they'll take TWW as an opportunity to reblance racials.

toxic pewter
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Vulpera still best race in various aspects

opaque quest
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Has nothing to do with racials. Its just that this season was bleed heavy

cinder nova
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Is... that why PWarr needs to be a dwarf to do P3 Sark exchange?

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Dwarf is more than bleed

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Self-dispel is enormous.

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DR is basically a footnote

opaque quest
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So now that the to each his own debate is over

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I wanna play Dead Space remake with lights on

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Am i still a man?

sleek current
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Yes.

toxic pewter
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If you have to ask the question, you already know the answer

opaque quest
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First horror game i really play that makes me shit my pants lmao

opaque quest
sleek current
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I played it a long time ago. I think I was 15. The first couple of hours are sketchy but, eventually you just shoot everything whether it looks dead or not. Lol

opaque quest
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I dont remember the OG being this scary. I think big part is the fact that you need to turn off the lights completely and all you have is a flashlight that only works when you aim down sights

sleek current
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It's like Phasmophobia. First 4 hours were horrific. Eventually you desensitise

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I haven't tried it personally. I can't justify to myself the £40 to play something I've already played

opaque quest
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Its on gamepass now

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Thats why im on it. I wouldnt pay 40 bucks for a remake either

blissful iris
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both our s tier trinkets are last boss very rares... cursed..

daring marlin
opaque quest
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Our dps bis is the fire thing and rezan i think sooo just use those

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if you dont wanna raid you can just use doti cheat death and rezan and call it good

cinder nova
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What's the big breakpoint at 5400 haste?

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What does it enable

balmy narwhal
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hey guys, I know i am waaay late, but I have kinda a noobish question that I couldnt find the answer too, the first boss of the brackenhide keeps blinding me right before the savage charge. Is there a way that I can avoid that, or do the players have to place themselves behind me

hazy bronze
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Spell reflect

sleek current
unkempt rover
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would it be worth to use 1st spark this week on shield?

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@strong forum my queen

lusty grotto
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probably not

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depends if youre raiding since 1st boss drops a shield

unkempt rover
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yeah next tuesday

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ok makes sense

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what would you use sparks on then, wowhead guide doesnt say :/

strong forum
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faq covers it

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also am not queen

unkempt rover
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tyty

mortal dagger
mild sorrel
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no wow token on shop?

cinder nova
# strong forum faq covers it

The pins mention 5400 haste being a breakpoint for one of the builds therein. What is the significance of it, do you know?

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Is it just more damage, or is there something more to it that I'm not seeing beyond generic haste benefits of GCD, block uptime, etc

lusty grotto
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balanced stat distro

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similar to the simc profile

cinder nova
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Eh?

lusty grotto
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the distro provides more damage

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distribution

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stat distribution

cinder nova
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Yeah but how does that relate to 5400 haste, is the DR on it shifting gears away from it? That seems unlikely?

lusty grotto
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with ITF

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and 5600 base rating

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we get to that

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but let me link you the specific comment

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1167906401503420456

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goddamn it

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just read his messages

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after that one

lusty grotto
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so basically

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you run HR until 5600 haste, at that point you swap back to ITF

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thats about it

ionic fern
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Is it purely offensive breakpoint or does it take into consideration SB up-time?

lusty grotto
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the stat distro is

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im fairly sure the HR swap is with defensiveness in mind though

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i kind of mixed it up so there's 2 things im talking about here

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cause i misunderstood what S was asking

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the so called breakpoint is just for a swap between HR and ITF in the pinned builds, that's pretty much it

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(has nothing to do with stat distributions hehe)

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but you would know more Mwahi im sure

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also im assuming he means 5x ITF

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so thats something to keep in mind maybe?

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to at least maintain uptime if too close to that rating amount

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which im sure wont matter if we're a bit further past that

ionic fern
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🤷
I honestly don't know if he just went by DPS or not.
I'd warrant 5.4k + ITF is enough SB up-time for m+ dungeons considering downtime.

lusty grotto
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yeah thats exactly it since its under the M+ builds

tawdry dirge
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hey if you arent a CE raider what is the best shield and sword then? crafted or hope for a +20/18 vault

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or is the HC version of the sword from fyrakk still bis then?

ionic fern
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Lucky for you - first boss drops mythic shield.

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And in a few months it should be easily pugable.

tawdry dirge
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cool and wepon wise?

ionic fern
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Sim yourself. CatjamR

tawdry dirge
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crafted shield is 3 ilvls lower then mythic first boss?

ionic fern
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Correct.

tawdry dirge
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gotchya

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so basicly no rush on shield/wepon crafting this time around even if you arent a CE raider

ionic fern
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Jeah.

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Pretty much.

tawdry dirge
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thats nice, lets just hope that the loot gods will be nice to me then šŸ˜„

ionic fern
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You just craft 2x embellishments and then w/e is currently your lowest ilvl piece.

tawdry dirge
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and one more question i thought they nerfed flame patch? its still better then the rest?

ionic fern
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They nerfed multiple more or less promising embellishments.

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Flamepatch is still the best, je.

tawdry dirge
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nice nothing to change then on current gear wupwup

toxic tiger
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Is the frostfire belt significantly worse than the patch?

tawdry dirge
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naaa

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belt was solid too iirc

ionic fern
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You do need to consider stat budgets now tho.
Crafted belt is 3 ilvls lower than max.

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That's why we suggest crafting embellishments on the lower stat budget items like Wrists/Back.

toxic tiger
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Aah truee

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Gotta craft a back then

ionic fern
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But it's really-really min-maxi.

toxic tiger
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Yea well. Why stop there with the min-max. Everything or nothing right?

ionic fern
jagged pier
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Honestly your crafting prio goes more embleishments cloak/bracers rings and neck then what u can fill

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But i woupd recommened just holding on crafting as emblishments might be tuning again

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And crafting insta on reset might give u the wrong thing

pallid quiver
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I was just gonna wait myself, yeah, especially since prio items are on easy to hit things (M+, First boss raid) or are tier that can just fill pieces, as well as tuning

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anyone got the strats for pug clearing heroic raid week 1 tho

jagged pier
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Like neck and rings are great as they come with a socket so only a socketed max ilvl can beat them

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But there is only like 1 heavy haste ring next season

zealous willow
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any info for best embelish

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did they nerf them ?

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Is lariat going to be bis this season or still trash ?

dark lark
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Double shadowflame

zealous willow
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again ?

pallid quiver
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no he's lying to you for no reason

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don't fall for his tricks

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get double sporecloak

jagged pier
zealous willow
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k ty

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dont be toxic luerce

tawdry dirge
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one last thing when is it that we break current 4 set?

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once we have 2+2 set?

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on any ilvl

warm plinth
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In raid you CAN play 2+2 following the rule outlined in the pins. Everything else I imagine you replace as you gain set

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So when you have 2 new set pieces you do 2+2 and when you have 4 new set pieces you go to new 4 set

tawdry dirge
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okidoki cheers

sick sentinel
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craah bandicoot has fallen on hard times

hollow flower
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Do i See it right that they took Out the aoe stun on the 2nd raid Boss?

teal swift
jagged pier
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No

alpine palm
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Looking to pick up m+ tanking this season again, how is prot looking this patch? (both fun and power)

pallid quiver
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Absolutely horrendous, can't even clear +2s

alpine palm
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oops didnt read pins, thanks :x

blazing condor
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dont worry no one ever does gladge

balmy crow
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I always do

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Even used to read motd back in irc times šŸ‘“

gloomy vortex
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IRC.. oh shit that’s memories

teal swift
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ExcitedBlushette tiny frog hat

sick sentinel
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if you don't have memory of this sound

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we arent fren

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you are too young

jagged pier
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Okay boomer

sick sentinel
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thats from 2005 era

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so, its only 20 years old

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only slightly more than wow

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(not when msn messenger first came out, like 97 98 99, yes i remember that too)

strong forum
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Without experiencing deadly block downtime on the regular

tame jasper
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Messenger sound is the child of the ICQ blossom start sound šŸ˜‚

sick sentinel
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is there any purpose to playing the game atm if im 447 and maxed on reknowns

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like on my warrior

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i can do TW on pally dk

cerulean tusk
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Killing rares and getting crests, upgrade stuff to 450 and some to 460. Basically it

strong forum
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Or just don't

ionic fern
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Once m+/raid comes out you'll replace everything anyways.

strong forum
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Grinding mindless rares and seeds rn is literally just killing time

ionic fern
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And get enough crests.

hardy snow
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battleground blitz is quite cool

ionic roost
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I kinda find it funny Blizzard "killed" seed farming

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Like all it did was just glue people playing their game for degen hours

sick sentinel
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"slow is better than crashing out" random quote from a video im watching on yt and im thinking about that quote in terms of keys and TRUE

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video is about they are playing a racing game

ionic roost
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Idk. If you drive an F1 car too slow, you'll crash cause there's no heat in the tyres

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Sounds like that person doesn't know racing

sick sentinel
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also u dont drive a minivan in a f1 race

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or on a rally, nor do u take an f1 on a rally

strong forum
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Too slow is also dangerous

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The appropriate saying would be either "slow and steady wins the race" or "better safe than sorry"

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Cuz they remain true in keys until proper high keys

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Just play it clean, don't do dumb shit

jagged pier
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I mean ppl are literally degening for a rune, which they havent used any other season

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But now

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Oh i have to get it

strong forum
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"it's there so I must have it"

jagged pier
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Even tho its less than 1% of mainstat already

jagged pier
strong forum
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Tbf prices have been absurd even for runes

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But like

jagged pier
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Because noones running hca to get them

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Because game is deadage

strong forum
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Correct

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And you don't have Mission table

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Runes are just an awful system

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They shouldn't be rng drops from content nobody runs

jagged pier
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True

strong forum
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Tbf they shouldn't exist

jagged pier
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True

strong forum
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Just make the bag a flat 15k gold reward

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If you want to incentive people to run them because runes sell well

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Just remove runes

jagged pier
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I mean if they were good i wouldnt mind them being in the game somewhere

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But like they just trash

sick sentinel
strong forum
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"slow is precise and precise is fast"

sick sentinel
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big pull everyone uses cd's then they dont have cds so have to do a smaller pull

strong forum
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Well that's

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Generally smart

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You don't wanna spread out CDs

blazing condor
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i spend 10.2 in zereth mortis deadge

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tryna get that red lasersword from the bitch ass who wont drop it

sick sentinel
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he means this one

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i already has

pallid quiver
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I've just been hitting the weekly on the chars I intend to play and doing seeds while playing other games/doing things for cosmetics

strong forum
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This is literally the equivalent of the sabellion grind

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1 week of people basement dwelling

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When you get it for free 2 weeks later

pallid quiver
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i didn't do jack of the sabellion grind

strong forum
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Yeah me neither

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I bought my rep

pallid quiver
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I looked and that and went, "Nah, not me"

strong forum
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Cuz cba grinding

ionic roost
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its not even close to as bad either

pallid quiver
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I still look at the gear from this

strong forum
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It's not but it's still degenerate

pallid quiver
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and go "Nah, not m-"

and then it said mounts and othert stuff and I went, "Eh, I can afk grind this sorta"

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So I hit it if there's downtime in the other things I'm doing

ionic roost
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why is this handle

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hirez

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and the wook

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wood is like a classic texture

strong forum
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The C in Blizzard stands for consistency

pallid quiver
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Huh, I wonder why Nome said that. Blizzard doesn't have a C in it. šŸ™‚

blazing condor
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i think he's telling a joke where the joke is that, since there's no "C" in "Blizzard", it means that Blizzard actually ISN'T consistent !

fluid shard
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What’s the good raid guide resource nowadays? I used Mythictrap in the past but i guess youtube now?

teal swift
bleak breach
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Took me a while to get what it mean

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Now I say it to people all the time

strong forum
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i got it from a movie

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xd

bleak breach
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He probably did too haha

strong forum
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like 15 smth years ago

bleak breach
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That and the 5 ps

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Proper preparation prevents poor performance

dusky canopy
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Yolo

blazing condor
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we already making the big bucks boys

bleak breach
sick sentinel
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thats me

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5 times a week

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3 shovels, 2 bolts

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from my dk

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1 gold each, 95 s cut every time

idle quartz
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Lots of cool weapons coming this patch! I’ve already run sims and the like, but is there any consensus on what weapon is going to be the best? Servant Splitter is looking impressive (though I see some of us on here saying it is probably not good, which is why I don’t trust the sim 100%)

blazing condor
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the raid one with effect

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gholak

idle quartz
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Oh, duh of course, I forgor šŸ’€

cinder nova
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I hate that 3 of our bis is from the last boss

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Guarantees I'll never see mythic versions since my guild does like... one, maybe two end boss reclears

plush tendon
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just gotta look forward to fated or a 1 year long tier XD

lusty tiger
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500ilvl boon and beacon is gonna go so hard

plush tendon
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grieftorch and beacon

lusty tiger
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thats when tanks start to compete lol

#

that would be so giga

blazing condor
#

how high wil the fyrakk hc versions be upgradeable to?

dusky canopy
#

Can shadowflame go on cloak?

#

Idr if cloak is considered armor

jagged pier
#

Ye

dusky canopy
#

Oh good think I’ve decided my play then

#

Allied wrists/SF cloak

plush tendon
#

that seems to be the combo

#

though.... I like having engi bracers

dusky canopy
#

So I’ve been weighing that

#

And honestly I can’t even recall the last time I’ve had to use it

#

So I opted out of it

plush tendon
#

too tru

#

but I do like the 1 stat

#

and, the one time I dont have it... im gonna need it and be like naw fam

dusky canopy
#

Like maybe if I was doing 30s and the team wanted it as a fail safe but like even then

#

Less mistakes the higher you go

#

So meh

#

Since I Pug I can easily just always bring a CR or two

#

Looks like BDK pretty strong this season so that’s one

#

And usually pally or drood makes the cut so there’s two

plush tendon
#

maybe its just the idea of getting a orange weapon

dusky canopy
#

Well yeah iirc nom was saying how strong it is now without weapon

#

Wait until it has weapon lol

plush tendon
#

we still dont know how much power the wep gives

#

but blood will be a top 6 tank for sure

red otter
#

If the wep is so strong then blizz will nerf bdk to compensate for the weapon, proceeding to leave every bdk without the weapon behind.

#

Truly an L either way.

plush tendon
#

I mean, it depends on what it does

dusky canopy
plush tendon
#

BDK ST is still pretty poop

#

AoE is very strong

#

defensively its unkillable in raid, but we all know the meme of blood dks in dungeons just getting one tapped

plush tendon
#

to me, tank balance might be super close but all really depends on how this VDH rework turned out

#

cause I have no clue

uneven mason
#

They pumping

plush tendon
#

thats what I heard

uneven mason
#

And since they basically tank via leech

#

Poor buildup though

jagged pier
uneven mason
#

I'm trying havoc because my raids doesn't have a dh

plush tendon
uneven mason
#

And it feels like the most clunky poshit

plush tendon
#

I think itll be a high I level wep with some stat proc/some fire damage thing attached

uneven mason
#

Compared to warriors

#

Although I just had an epiphany, that I can felrush sideways

plush tendon
#

we running low on warriors in my raid 😦

#

too many god damn evokers

uneven mason
#

We have 1 warrior and like 4rets

#

And a bdk now

red otter
sick sentinel
#

i call a scam

lusty tiger
raw sundial
#

Any news about prot

#

Is it good in m+?

hardy snow
raw sundial
#

alright thx

jagged pier
#

So why would they compensate this time around

uneven mason
#

Also nerfing a class because of them having op gear is a horrible way to balance......rip bears

warm plinth
#

Yeah idk why people keep saying that. They would nerf the legendary first, not the class lol.

dusky canopy
#

They removed shieldblock

warm plinth
#

D:

dusky canopy
#

We use 2h Lego now

warm plinth
#

Say it ain't so

#

2h shield lego

dusky canopy
#

Ngl I could totally get behind a dual wield shield play style

#

Lots of bashing and stuff

#

Cosmeticly badass too

toxic pewter
#

Mountain thane dual wield tank. Colossus 2h tank

dusky canopy
#

Dual wield tower shields

plush tendon
#

that just sounds like classic warrior tanking

warm plinth
#

That's some dark souls meme build shit right there

dusky canopy
#

Hell yeah brother

#

Be the tower

warm plinth
#

Lemme get that havel the rock armor too

toxic pewter
#

war within trailer already showed a prot warrior 2h tanking a dungeon so im excited for it personally

uneven mason
uneven mason
#

Or a bdk

#

Cause

#

You know

toxic pewter
#

nope its a warrior, its the same one from earlier in the trailer if you watch it

#

just watch the trailer

#

he clearly heroic leaps at 1:07 mark

signal plover
#

or BDKs get leap...

toxic pewter
#

also he wearing warrior tier set from aberus in first photo I just posted

ionic roost
#

Pog warband tmog avoids class restrictions

#

You found the real information

toxic pewter
#

? that is not happening

ionic roost
#

You just said it is, the DK is wearing the warrior tier

toxic pewter
#

that is not a dk in the video though

#

did you watch the trailer

strong forum
#

Those vids are not to be trusted

#

Or confirm anything

ionic roost
#

Evoker leather belt critcake

toxic pewter
#

yah that why I am just speculating

strong forum
#

They have Tools when making those to just replace race X or armor X with a button press

#

Warband just means all tmog you find will be accessible to be mogged for the classes that can use them regardless on which class you found them

#

Cloth can find plate pieces that unlock the tmog, so you plate characters can tmog the piece you found on your cloth character

#

Instead of plate can only unlock plate tmog for our acc like it is currently

toxic pewter
#

how u get so much renown

strong forum
#

spending money to get it 2 weeks early

jagged pier
#

just dont do it?

#

its not worth it

#

pretty big reason to me

#

i mean roasting u for degening to get something that isnt worth the gold or the grind

#

yes

#

if u were just playing m+ this week

#

i wouldnt roast u at all

#

i mean 100k is a lot to alot of ppl

strong forum
#

Technically speaking

jagged pier
#

and 100k for less than 1% main stat

strong forum
#

You spent like 500k

jagged pier
#

is for sure not worth it

strong forum
#

Cuz race change

#

Ah ok

toxic pewter
#

gross

plush tendon
#

Everyones gotta have on human toon

toxic pewter
#

no thanks?

plush tendon
#

I really only like humans, blood elves, dwarves, and Fem Night Elf

#

sometimes orc for certain classes

toxic pewter
#

lol

daring marlin
toxic pewter
#

dont be crude

plush tendon
#

I know apb picked up the top hat from the trading post this month

toxic pewter
#

I must play Vulpera it is not a choice

#

it is a moral obligation

plush tendon
#

UwU

toxic pewter
#

I stand with all Vulpera against the insane amount of unjustified hate they get

#

and every miniscule amount of hate that is added just makes me stronger

daring marlin
#

The hate they get is justified.

#

race for weirdos

toxic pewter
#

That is where you are wrong

#

I am a shield against the haters of my people

#

unapologetically

daring marlin
#

the weirdo king, apb

plush tendon
#

being a vulpera would be fun... for like 15 min

#

idk, I kind of need my toon to look cool

toxic pewter
#

Vulpera can and do look cool actually

dull relic
toxic pewter
#

If you just put aside your preconceived notions for a moment

#

They actually have good proportions, animations, and a fluid look to them

plush tendon
#

coolest warriors I know.... Grommash, Muardin Bronzebeard, Varian

#

I see no Vulpera on that list

dull relic
#

i think like, the ears maybe the coolest things about them

#

and tails are ok, they like are wavy when they run, but cant get over the fuckin snout

#

and how their body is literally in the shape of a triangle

dull sleet
dull relic
#

gnomes look more natural

strong forum
#

I am with apb on this one

dull sleet
#

btw i did all the available quests and im stuck at renown 6
Is there anything left to do since they nerfed the seed rep farm?

plush tendon
#

I would just check the guide if you are trying to rush through the rep

strong forum
#

Rares and still seeds

plush tendon
#

otherwise.... did you do your daily gamma šŸ˜›

dull relic
#

theres a questline on this marker worth 1500 rep

#

its really out of the way i just know about it cuz i saw and flew over it

dull sleet
#

the seeds are 5 rep each, i wont to 500 seeds just for one renown lol

#

uh ty

dull relic
#

i think theres no way you're like 3 renown behind without missing something

#

did u do the sparks of life warmode quest that gives 1k rep

#

and 8 treasures around the zone that give 200 rep each

dull sleet
#

need to do the spark of life

toxic pewter
uneven mason
#

Furry

waxen orbit
#

That little dude was metal as hell

#

Rest of the vulpera are all meme characters though

blazing condor
#

so why are people farming renown like idiots rn

#

theres like no gain

strong forum
#

Cuz they think it's necessary

#

To spend like 20hrs

#

Grinding 0.7% buff 2 weeks early

blazing condor
#

and that buff is what

#

augment

#

?

strong forum
#

Yes

uneven mason
#

Gamers, real gamers

blazing condor
#

new patch and ppl already out of content 6 hours into it

uneven mason
#

Same dudes gonna be complaining about lack of content in 3 weeks

waxen orbit
#

ā€œBro you don’t understand 82 primary stat will get me out of grey parse hellā€

uneven mason
#

Wearing their veteran blues

strong forum
#

Same people who pick vers embellish for the "defensive value"

blazing condor
#

honestly though what really IS the content rn

#

if youve done all quests

strong forum
#

There isn't

#

You just log off

#

(I hate patches like these BTW)

waxen orbit
#

We’re still running shadowflame right?

#

Sounds like it

strong forum
#

1, which used to be 2 in prior xpacs, weeks of nothing

#

I despise patch launches cuz you don't actually get to do the content on launch

blazing condor
#

yeah its weird

#

that we wait a week

#

at least give us a new system that we can do

#

NOT superbloom

strong forum
#

It's so "the casuals can catch up"

blazing condor
#

the casuals can catch these hands

strong forum
#

So "they don't feel rushed"

uneven mason
strong forum
#

The rush is the best part

blazing condor
#

superbloom is so boring lmao idk who thought of it

#

i mean its fine

uneven mason
#

Walk in a circle and spam titanic throw

blazing condor
#

but its too long

waxen orbit
#

I play on Moon Guard and half the people doing superbloom do >60k DPS

uneven mason
#

At least the archeologist thing had multiple events

toxic pewter
#

anyone know if the rend TC applies actually does the initital damage from rend or just applies the dot? Its just the dot right

waxen orbit
#

It’s definitely aimed at a specific crowd to catch up

toxic pewter
#

ok thx

hot hill
#

Hey guys im new to wow. Dies anyone know a good guide for prot warrior ? Tu a lot

blazing condor
vocal flame
#

Welcome Fitscy!

hot hill
#

Thank you

signal sequoia
#

but its very very small

uneven mason
#

0.7%

#

Gotta game those numbers

signal sequoia
#

i mean the benefit from the aug is really just saving gold, not actually power

#

the crafting crest is power but its way less than .7%

uneven mason
#

Right

#

I mean for initial rwf that ilvl hop is substantial from a survival pov

#

Depending on what slot

ruby musk
#

So our first crafted piece, are we crafting shield again first slot or back/bracers?

plush tendon
#

It’s a wait and see

uneven mason
#

How soon do you see yourself doing mythic 1st boss

ruby musk
#

With my guild, probably never. We will probably clear heroic for AOTC and that's it at most.

signal sequoia
#

so the difference is like 2/3 ilvl on one item if you have the heroic crest

#

but you can spend them on weapons/trinkets that might be more valuable per ilvl then your crafted items

daring marlin
#

Same reason best time to m+ is first couple weeks

#

giga fun

toxic pewter
#

This me on my new druid craptor mount LOL

dull sleet
#

istg i dont wanna hate but vulpera look so weird

#

better than goblin though

strong forum
#

vulp is good juju

dusky canopy
#

Cat raptor?

strong forum
#

cat raptor is new druid form ye

toxic pewter
#

yah one of druids new travel form

strong forum
#

for travelform

#

and also a new mount iirc

warm plinth
#

Good morning friendos

uneven mason
#

If you cast motw while in craptor form your weapon becomes visible

#

It's adorable

warm plinth
#

lul

toxic pewter
#

love it

dusky canopy
#

ā€œCraptorā€ form

uneven mason
sick sentinel
#

i guess the heroic version must be 50% off cuz, 67$ for 30 days?????????????

signal sequoia
#

and a free boost

#

idk how much classic boosts are normally

#

40 usd

#

is gonna be more in cad

sick sentinel
#

its 60 in cad i think i can check

signal sequoia
#

yeah so that seems pretty fair

sick sentinel
#

but, i would only want the mount,

signal sequoia
#

67 cad for what would normally be 60 for the boost plus a month of game time

#

which is normally like 22 or something right?

uneven mason
#

Canada's taxes are insane for online stuff as well

sick sentinel
#

i wish they'd just leave the epic version at 99.99 instead of 107

signal sequoia
#

thats not how currency conversion works though lmao

sick sentinel
#

people will buy an 8 dollar burger but not an 11 dollar one cuz its 2 digits now

proper roost
#

Idunno if anyone said yet but if you do dreamsurge or time twist or w/e events then you can upgrade these veteran pieces to 450 and tier piece them

toxic pewter
#

nice

grizzled nova
#

wait why did blizzard change the ignore pain tooltip

#

it broke my ignore pain weakaura tf

strong forum
#

Mine still works just fine

toxic pewter
#

oh so it shows the cap now, I actually am ok with that change since it seems to always be asked/sort of confusing

grizzled nova
#

There's no direct access to that number anymore so the overlay part doesn't work.

grizzled nova
#

It aught have both numbers in the tooltip, how much a single cast provides and what the cap is

real fossil
#

am i missing something

strong forum
#

Only ilvl matters when converting

#

Not from which season the item is

#

If you have epic quality items that have ilvl 385 you can even get s1 tierset still

#

Seasonal catalyst doesn't go away

proper roost
strong forum
#

Hm

#

Does it matter from which season it is?

proper roost
#

It has to be from the shit events from S2

#

like the time warp and the dream surge or w/e

strong forum
#

ic

proper roost
#

also the dragon event thing in the fields also gave me an adventure tier piece

real fossil
#

oh so this is the older content that now drops new track pieces?

proper roost
#

Old shit content gives you old tier pieces for rat alts pretty much

#

or if you want to minmax like 3ilvls on your current tier set ig

real fossil
#

idk getting 450 tier is pretty neat and isn't shit right now

strong forum
#

Will be replaced by doing literally any content next week

#

Lfr drops 447 next week

proper roost
#

yeah i think this is more for the ppl who rock up and potentially doesn't have tier set on their new 70

real fossil
#

yeah an alt can insta get high ilv old tier

proper roost
#

with this and the crafted 447 gear you can get quick gear

real fossil
#

which is useful some some amount of time until you get new 4set

#

or have much higheer ilv

proper roost
#

whatever you desire

strong forum
#

I desire bedge

#

Eternal sleep

#

Awake is fuck

proper roost
#

sleep to SOD

strong forum
#

Sod is literally coma inducing

lusty grotto
sick sentinel
dusky canopy
torn gulch
#

superbloom was good with me 463 weapon

uneven mason
#

Haste crit, living your best life

torn gulch
#

unfortunately it dropped on my pala

#

but it can drop so if you're lucky you can go in the new season with a 463 weapon without spending your spark

icy garden
#

Is conquerors banner still a thing or was the warrior i saw just using a mog?

opaque quest
#

Can superbloom be farmed or once a week?

icy garden
#

Damn

#

Thanks

uneven mason
blazing condor
#

just go to shadowlands

#

u can still use ur abilities there

zealous willow
#

any good trinkets from dungeons for prot warr or i must farm raid ones ?

hardy snow
#

I like those next season shields gladge

sick sentinel
#

top row more than bottom row i think

#

i like those ones slightly better

opaque quest
#

I like both for different things

#

I like the top row for holy pala and the bottom one for tanks for example

grim pilot
#

miss that reflect:x

grand veldt
#

Anyone else notice their shield slam macros don't light up when you get a proc reset now

#

Only the original spell will light up for me

sick sentinel
#

You macro Shield Slam?

lusty grotto
#

im about to check

#

not that i look at buttons but just in case

#

looks fine

#

and its a macro

#
/cast Shield Slam
/cancelaura Blessing of Protection``` ye olde cancelaura macro
sick sentinel
#

That is old as fuck lmao

lusty grotto
#

still works

#

very good for bleeds when stoneform/cauterize is on cd and you have a handy pally

#

or even when they fat finger it by mistake

blazing condor
#

i have cancel bop on my taunt

lusty grotto
#

i have it on all 3 abilities

#

revenge tc and ss

median tulip
# sick sentinel You macro Shield Slam?

There are circumstances where it's useful to be able to shield slam without swapping target. Moreso with the forthcoming tier set, where it should be a DPS increase, albeit a fairly marginal one.

blazing condor
#

its joever

lusty grotto
#

still good dont care

blazing condor
lusty grotto
#

what the

#

lmaoooo

strong forum
#

yeah its not maybe an actual tank trinket

#

instead of a fake tank trinket

#

still good

#

but not that good

#

like fyrakk dmg was good now its just okayish

#

loses to most trinkets now tho

#

but atleast the absorb is now like 1.3mil

blazing condor
#

imma keep it a buck fifty if any tunings makes the m+ trinkets better im all for it

torn gulch
#

isn't that like equal to a 480 tank base hp?

#

we're at 900k at 447

strong forum
#

it does shitloads of self dmg

#

so you lose like 50% of the shield now

#

instead of 80% of the shield

hardy snow
#

496 on live currently have 660k shield, so it will be 990k from mythic one

strong forum
#

and yeah the shield was not 900k at 447 xd

#

its 500k at 470

#

pre-buff

torn gulch
#

i was talking about tank hp

strong forum
#

ah

#

yeah tanks will have 1.4mil

#

vdh 1.7

#

brew like 1.2mil

torn gulch
#

welcome to legion

#

i've seen ilvl 577 in next xpac slides with big stats

strong forum
#

577?

torn gulch
#

we're not getting a squish

#

something like that

strong forum
#

sir

#

no fucking shot

#

are we not getting a stat squish

torn gulch
#

i'll find the slide

cosmic wyvern
#

does that change to the tainted rageheart affect its status as our BiS

strong forum
#

its not a dps loss to play it

#

instead of a dps gain

#

so its now a pure defensive trinket

#

that happens to do okay dmg

torn gulch
#

with some damage on the side

cosmic wyvern
#

seems like a pretty good pure defensive trinket tbh

blazing condor
#

versa tho

torn gulch
#

it has it's uses

blazing condor
#

🤢

strong forum
#

its worse than tree-mouth was

#

so its not that hot

cosmic wyvern
#

god dammit I was looking forward to actually being able to use a tank trinket instead of 2 dps trinkets

torn gulch
#

cataclysmic+rezan

cosmic wyvern
#

without people calling me shit at the game

torn gulch
#

let's go

strong forum
#

500k absorb for 50% of dmg is way better

lusty grotto
#

what is your fetish with tank trinkets

#

when have they EVER been interesting

strong forum
#

than a vers trinket with fake 1mil absorb 100%

cosmic wyvern
lusty grotto
#

oh wow a shield goes on you wohoo

torn gulch
#

kekw

lusty grotto
#

lmaoo

strong forum
#

like

lusty grotto
#

so they are like badges to you

strong forum
#

partial absorb trinkets are better than full absorb trinkets

#

especially for us

torn gulch
#

oh well it is what it is

#

we'll play rezan the new edition

#

at least in st

strong forum
#

time to change faq

cosmic wyvern
#

was also excited to have both BiS trinkets be from raid

blazing condor
#

fuck that

cosmic wyvern
#

since getting any m+ trinket at its highest ilvl is a massive pain

blazing condor
#

i hate the new roll system

#

one shot a week

cosmic wyvern
#

yeah, one shot a week at a m+ trinket from vault too. except it takes from every dungeon pool at once, making it preposterously rare to get the one you want.

lusty grotto
#

at ilvl cap sure

#

spammable otherwise so idk why that's so bad

strong forum
#

faq updated

ebon geyser
lusty grotto
#

you mean by the end of the 3rd expansion

sick sentinel
#

still better than rokmora

lusty grotto
#

10 levels each

#

we're currently 70

sick sentinel
#

literal no use trinket

ebon geyser
torn gulch
#

from the deep dive slides

#

might be like this might not

lusty grotto
#

doesnt really matter

#

squishes happen not because they hate big numbers

#

its because data structure limitations on their end

torn gulch
#

the client hates them because of limitations

lusty grotto
#

well thats something they cannot help

#

on a million of players mmo

torn gulch
#

they had to heal bosses because they had more hp than the limit

cosmic wyvern
#

I also really love not having to compete with dps for my trinkets

strong forum
#

to not leak the existance of stat squish

torn gulch
#

we'll see

cosmic wyvern
#

feel like, if healers get their own good trinkets that dps don't want, why can't tanks have good tank trinkets that dps don't all want as well

strong forum
#

cuz itll get ridiculous REAL quick

strong forum
#

if there isnt a squish

lusty grotto
#

healers dont have their own trinkets

#

rashok was an exception

strong forum
#

cuz tanks will start new max lvl with 2mil+ hp

chilly brook
#

Old Warrior Soul was a ā€œDPSā€ trinket

strong forum
#

everybody will do 200k++ dps

#

dps players will do 400k+

chilly brook
#

But it was also actually a tank trinket

lusty grotto
#

they competed with everyone for OCE and tanks for echo trinket

torn gulch
#

tanks are not pure tanks anymore

chilly brook
#

Since giga haste is great for us

strong forum
#

and by the end of 11.2/11.3 they would do 2mil+ dps and have like 10mil+ hp

torn gulch
#

like healers are not pure healers anymore

chilly brook
strong forum
#

literal legion numbers

lusty grotto
#

pure tanks arent even a thing in classic lmaoooo

chilly brook
#

The difference is that you no longer need to itemize for it

cosmic wyvern
#

I mean, is it not valid to prefer when tank trinkets are BiS because it means we have less competition for our BiS trinkets?

lusty grotto
#

fury tanking was the go-to

chilly brook
#

Everything you need to do your role is in your kit

lusty grotto
#

i think the wording is a bit off

#

its not "pure tank"

#

its BOOMER TANK

chilly brook
#

ā€œTank itemsā€ aren’t interesting anyways

sick sentinel
#

boomer tank is stupid till you need boomer tank tactics and or mentality

lusty grotto
#

they really arent griff

#

well

#

trinkets

chilly brook
#

Press button get big armor buff

#

Wooohooio

lusty grotto
#

cause shields and weapons always looked special

chilly brook
#

Yay

cosmic wyvern
lusty grotto
#

yeah trust me i dont get it either

cosmic wyvern
#

vs it drops -> we only have to compete with our cotank

strong forum
grand veldt
chilly brook
#

The only way I’ll ever get excited about ā€œtank trinketsā€ is if they ever do something out of the box like make a mini vengeance mechanic with one

grand veldt
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I was gonna test the trinket that silences

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I thought that one was interesting

chilly brook
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And then you get your super Gucci raid trinket when you get it

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Idk I don’t care about BiS items as prot

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I just press my buttons and take upgrades as they come

blazing condor
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aegis was the one tank trinket i enjoyed