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strong forum
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like it doesnt really matter, youll need crests from 11-15s anyway

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so if you just do your +20 or w/e youll be more than fine

toxic pewter
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forgot that even happened tbh.. guess I should run a key before next season

strong forum
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if its not high enough then it doesnt really matter

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as its technically better to yoink a key from someone who already has a higher key

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so say you join an +18

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and youll get a 17/18 from doing that key

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instead of opening vault

toxic pewter
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ohh right yeah that makes more sense

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i think thats basically what I usually end up doing as I pug anyway

steady bobcat
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is prot gonna be good in m+ and raid in season 3

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10.2

lusty grotto
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Nome, do you think splitting the faq for all 3 specs would be simpler for people?

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like going off on other discs and even ffxiv the balance disc

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it kinda seems its slightly more digestible

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i guess nobody has complained about it so kinda unimportant if thats the case

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or unneeded

strong forum
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has been discussed many times

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to redo the whole faq thing

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into threads

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but it always falls flat at the "yeah but whos gonna maintain it"

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and thats the end of the discussion

median tulip
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You can put a whole load of effort into it and people will still just ask questions without reading it

lusty grotto
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i see

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yeah thats always the case zetakya but still

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either way you dont hear about those that go through it

median tulip
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True

lusty grotto
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so it only seems that people dont read it based on who asks questions

strong forum
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i fully agree that faq is lackluster

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but i cant decide on my own to redo it

lusty grotto
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im a big fan of how ffxiv's the balance do it

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with an index and a changelog

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im just mentioning it cause i cant remember other wow class discords having a layout like that

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its a separate discord for wow, but the balance has all jobs

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but im sure one of the wow class discs has a similar layout

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at least without the bot thing

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maintaining a bot for it seems like a shitton of work anyway

strong forum
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eh thats a bit cluttery

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i like FH approach

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very concise

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multiple threads

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feedback on guide (which well.. i dont have one but mwahi)

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changelog

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m+ / raid stuff seperated

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but also then youre reaching a point

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youre just writing a new guide when others already exist

lusty grotto
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ya fel hammer looks good

edgy cove
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What embellishments u guys think prot will use?

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Sporecloak and waht?

lusty grotto
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not sporecloak

novel temple
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Does spell block work for the chrono lord deios breath dot?

lusty grotto
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its on the the reflect sheet

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it works on the initial hit, but not the dot

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but thats not what kills you there

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its the adds, which are fully spell blockable

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and reflectable

novel temple
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Wait, the adds are the main damage?

lusty grotto
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yes

novel temple
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Cause this healer can’t keep my up during the temporal dot

lusty grotto
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since day 1

jagged gust
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oh yeah, that thing fucking trucks ya

novel temple
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And I’m using d stance and spell reflect

lusty grotto
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dont instantly blame the healer

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they have to monage the soak

jagged gust
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gotta cycle in SW as well

novel temple
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I’m cycling like every other one

jagged gust
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I think I wound up asking for barkskin as well to cover the gap

novel temple
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But spell block’s gonna make it easy

lusty grotto
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idk man i didnt have issues with the dot at all

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and i had undergeared healers

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the adds is def what kills you

jagged gust
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Never raw dogged the frontal?

novel temple
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Uhhh I did

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But I feel like I’m dying to it

lusty grotto
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feelcraft

novel temple
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But I’ll try reflecting the adds instead

lusty grotto
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check details

novel temple
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Don’t have it on my laptop

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But what can I pick up spell block for

jagged gust
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Yeah, it'll kill ya, I put my healer through the ringer on that fight

novel temple
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Like what do i drop since I’ve got 4p

lusty grotto
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did you forget the pins??

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because its stillt here

novel temple
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Pins say blood surge

lusty grotto
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youre not new man

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cmon

jagged gust
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I'm confused about what you mean by dropping 4 piece

lusty grotto
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yes you drop bloodsurge

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thats what it says so that's what you drop

novel temple
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Oh wait

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The raid one is different

lusty grotto
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why are you running raid talents in a mythic0

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lol

novel temple
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Uhhhh

pallid quiver
hollow flower
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Will the fyrrak weapon be bis even if you are only clearing heroic?

lusty grotto
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depends on sims

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but its likely

hollow flower
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So much self damage in the season

lusty grotto
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thats why sporecloak is a no go

hollow flower
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Does m+ have any good trinkets except First half of mega Dungeon?

lusty grotto
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2nd half

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not 1st

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mirror is from the 2nd half

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oh i guess cheat is from the first one

hollow flower
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Isnt the hour Glass from the First half really godd

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Giod

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Good

lusty grotto
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its ok

hollow flower
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God damn warri brain

lusty grotto
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mirror is the better one of the 2

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iirc

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either way gotta wait for sims, keys trinkets just pale in comparison to raid sadly

hollow flower
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How good are the bloodmallet sims

lusty grotto
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sim bait

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just wait a week

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let me clarify, there's stuff in bloodmallet that is sim bait

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for example in s2, the uldaman trinket simmed really high

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i forget the name

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also bloodmallet's main sim is ST

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so that's something to keep in mind

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as long as you understand the ilvl colors in their graphs (i.e. when white is more than light blue or green, etc) and also understand these are ST sims, then they should be ok

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you can swap to 5T patchwerk on the top, so those should be more representative for keys

lusty grotto
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also im not entirely sure what the duration is for bloodmallet so thats another thing to keep in mind, we usually do 3 mins for ST (1 Patchwerk + Lust and only set buffs) or 1 min / 1.5 mins for keys (5 patchwerk, no lust, only set buffs)

ionic fern
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Damn, i always do 5m sims for ST.

pallid quiver
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i spitball however long i plan on fighting something

lusty grotto
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100 rating 😢

warm plinth
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@ionic fern hi ily

ionic fern
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Hi, ily.

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How are you doing?

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Excited for 10.2?

ionic fern
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Fine,fine, i'll fix.

lusty grotto
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you know the first one, i actually didnt notice until like 5 days later

pallid quiver
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should've made it 10 rating

lusty grotto
warm plinth
ionic fern
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I'm also excited for new dungeons.

warm plinth
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Not excited for Throne of the Tides but I think the rest should be cool

ionic fern
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WM/DHT/AD/BRH - i enjoyed them all.

warm plinth
ionic fern
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I don't know about Tides/Everbloom as i've never done them.

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But those 4 are enough for me to get more or less excited.

warm plinth
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I've done Everbloom like twice in timewalking but I don't really remember much about it

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Tides was dumb and boring in Cata and I doubt it'll be any different this time around

pallid quiver
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I'm mega excited for Throne because I think it's one of the prettiest dungeons in the game

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It'll probably suck mechanically and running

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but it pretty me like

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I'm curious about Manor since I think I've literally been in there once ever

vale escarp
warm plinth
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A lot of people are excited about the WCM doors being open but I think it's stupid.

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Because instead of there being a little variety in the routing, it'll just be the same route every time

pallid quiver
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I like it for the sake of consistency, so you don't feel like you're gonna get cheated on pushing high keys or something, but also it's more interesting for RNG

but i also, again, have literally entered it like once

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and it wasn't even M+, so

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So my opinion on it has like, no merit

warm plinth
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well it wasn't RNG per se

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It was the same for the entire week

blazing condor
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I liked everbloon in wod

warm plinth
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I heard there was some boss removed, but I don't know what was bad about the boss that that needed to happen

pallid quiver
# warm plinth well it wasn't RNG per se

I mean in the grand scale mental wise, it can feel bad if you get a bad route on a "push week" or whatever people go for or what-not; it feels bad to those guys, I wager

warm plinth
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Luerce

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I have 2 levels on one toon, and 5 on another

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and I am DONE

pallid quiver
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long adventure over

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unless

warm plinth
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yeah til 11.0 when I gotta do 10 more levels on all of them

pallid quiver
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It's a shame Midnight's only gonna increase the level cap by 5 levels and be a hotly debated expansion that drives a wedge into community opinion when we get there, though, but at least you'll only have 5 levels

warm plinth
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Is that the one after war within?

pallid quiver
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Ye

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War Within's gonna be to 80, then they'll go to 85, then get to 90 again

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That's clearly how this is gonna work

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We're currently on the BC xpac; you can tell because we're level 70

ionic fern
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When's that Season of Discovery btw?

pallid quiver
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30th

warm plinth
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Why is it going to drive a wedge?

ionic fern
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30th of what?

pallid quiver
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Because it'll be the Cata equivalent

pallid quiver
ionic fern
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Ooo.

jagged pier
ionic fern
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Actually interesting.

warm plinth
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You're interesting

jagged pier
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No testing ither critcake

warm plinth
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gottem

ionic fern
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Is it just classic?

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Is it a separate server?

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Do i need to start leveling something?

jagged pier
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Seperate server i would imagine

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And u cant lvl till the 30th

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And u cant really fall behind as its lvl capped

ionic fern
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Damn.

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You baiting me.

jagged pier
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Fucking phone

ionic fern
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😂

jagged pier
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Cant

pallid quiver
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it's a shame i can't play with mwahi, tho

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if only we were still a super continent

jagged pier
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i can play with mwahi 🙂

pallid quiver
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That's because you were born right, unlike me

jagged pier
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no i wasnt

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we all know the uk is not a good place to be

pallid quiver
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oh

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My condolences

jagged pier
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ty sadge

teal swift
blazing condor
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what matters is if your soul is british or not

teal swift
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Toast sandwich

jagged pier
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thats a student thing not a british thing

teal swift
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Isn't that dish from like the 60s

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And doesn't it require two different loaf of bread

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Recipe from 1860s

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Lol

lyric cape
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Wait is that an actual dish?

teal swift
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Yes

ionic fern
jagged pier
teal swift
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Dear blizzard, once you make cross server guilds. It's time to break down region walls.

ionic fern
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But we never play together in DF. 😦

teal swift
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Let me play with the boys

jagged pier
ionic fern
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Trueeee.

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I still do weeklies.

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Well, a weekly.

jagged pier
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next season

ionic fern
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Next expansion.

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Well, i will actually play next season in m+.

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Maybe even push some keys.

jagged pier
blazing condor
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11.0 waiting room

sleek flax
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prot i gonna be good on 10.2?

pallid quiver
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Unplayable, terrible

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Can't even do +2s

teal swift
jagged pier
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we are for sure in the top 6 tank specs

ionic fern
teal swift
cerulean tusk
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I heard rumours that prot is in all the top 10 tank lists. Can anyone confirm? Sounds really strong! 10.2 hype!

teal swift
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Because havoc dh dodge made them better OT keksquad

warm plinth
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We are FIVE

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LEVELS

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AWAY

pallid quiver
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i'd help with those but my fucking hands

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the aliens got them

warm plinth
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Not the aliens sadgers

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lol I didn't even see this when I did a brackenhide the other day

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on my 65 druid

pallid quiver
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i got one of those today when i was just casually hitting raid

warm plinth
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we love these

vale escarp
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You Guys remember the time where we where the top Tank DD Spec? Good old WoD

pallid quiver
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man was like, "bro, how are you pumping so hard as tank?"

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and like, i just tell people i just press buttons and actually practice hitting buttons

warm plinth
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My crown achievement is my 97 parse on my 1 and only heroic Kazarra kill

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on my ppal

pallid quiver
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When I first hit Heroic Echo, I hit like 35th rank or something

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i've definitely dropped since

warm plinth
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also in that Brackenhide, I pulled from the 1st boss to Treemouth just to see if I could. Turns out I could

pallid quiver
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but it was super funny seeing all these people with beacon and then you just saw me

warm plinth
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with your inexorable resonator?

pallid quiver
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and you just go "bruh, that guy's got annulet on"

warm plinth
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I'd like to put your annulet on

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@ionic fern what time is it there

ionic fern
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13:23

pallid quiver
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Damn, that log's since dropped to 48th

warm plinth
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hmm so 8 hours ahead

pallid quiver
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why am i bad

warm plinth
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Dang I may not see Mwahi anymore ;'(

ionic fern
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?:(

warm plinth
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I'm changing to day shift on the 4th

jagged pier
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😮

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yuge

warm plinth
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so when I get off work it's gonna be like 12:30 your time

ionic fern
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Happy for you. gladge

warm plinth
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ty ❤️

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pretty big pay bump too

pallid quiver
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damn, i might not see Ghash anymore, either

warm plinth
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we love those

warm plinth
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Just have a normal sleep schedule

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smh

pallid quiver
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I simply don't have the sleep part of that half the time.

warm plinth
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says the guy who has been on night shift for like 5 of the last 6 years

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Oh Luerce

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My last toon has the TW buff still

pallid quiver
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big fast

warm plinth
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zzz 4 mins til boat

jagged pier
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zzz

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just portal

warm plinth
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lazy

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that's like across the city

jagged pier
warm plinth
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plus then I'd still have to fly to waking shores

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cba

pallid quiver
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wait does alliance have to take a boat

warm plinth
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yeah

pallid quiver
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nerds

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learn to fly, idiots

warm plinth
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kek

pallid quiver
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We only explode 74% of the time

warm plinth
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I still think it's funny that alliance got to Mechagon first but they had to fly there and horde just ported lol

pallid quiver
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That's because the Horde knew better than to interact with the lessest race

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gnomes

warm plinth
teal swift
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Can we delete dwarves

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We could've had nerubian

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Insect people

warm plinth
pallid quiver
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cowards

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bitches, even

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Fly among the dragons

opaque quest
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Ride alexstrasza

blazing condor
teal swift
toxic pewter
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Alexstrasza is old news

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Dat xal’atath tho…🥵

teal swift
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Wait

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Do we know what she looks like

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Wasn't that the spriest weapon

blazing condor
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ye

jagged pier
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had a lady inside who we freed

blazing condor
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old god fella

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void queen

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porpol elf with tattoo

teal swift
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Voidmommy

toxic pewter
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? Have you been under a rock for last three days

teal swift
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🥺 🥹

blazing condor
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"clearly u dont own an airfryer"-type face

teal swift
toxic pewter
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We can fix her

teal swift
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I cannot retain it all

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I can't even retain basic information about my class

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Not all of us have good brain

toxic pewter
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Pretty sure she’s actually the 5th old god in humanoid form

teal swift
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😠

toxic pewter
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Old gods hot as hell I tell ya wat

blazing condor
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she can whisper me into insanity

teal swift
blazing condor
empty spindle
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do you guys run sporecloak in keys?

jagged pier
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no

empty spindle
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cool

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so just standard dps embelishments?

teal swift
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This season it was purely defensive lmao, shove it on healers and never look back

empty spindle
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when you say this season you mean

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10.2

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or 10.1

jagged pier
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i mean

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currently next season its only better if your hp stays above 70% alot

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and its 1% better

teal swift
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Yeah, I like it I'ma send it, DPS also like it idk

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Just gonna use sporecoak

ionic fern
blazing condor
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they so expensive

sick sentinel
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THIS GUY is tanking 24's on time whats your excuse /s off

blazing condor
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i dont think anyone in here who cant do 24s blames it on their gear/class

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its literally a skill/group issue

sick sentinel
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true but 415 shield lol, i kinda hope he can reach KSM KSH, seems a bit lofty

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for 1 day

ionic fern
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Okay, imagine this..keys are a group effort.
You can be fairly low ilvl and still be fine as long as your group is solid.

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I know it's a hard idea to grasp..but that's how it is.

hardy snow
blazing condor
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man can pick and choose exactly who to bring

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and he played with dorki

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every asmon fanboy with 3,5k io and 447 gear will apply to carry him throuhg a 24

ionic fern
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But hey, it's always good to see the logic of people. okayge

empty spindle
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jusr crafting gear for season 3

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used to be tank main but switched to dps a few seaons ago but i wanna tank more keys

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easily more accessible

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pugwise

blazing condor
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tanking is comf

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only time its tough to be a tank is when youre trying to join a pug raid

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cus there's only 2 slots

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compared to like 22 slots of dps

teal swift
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When xal atath thing shallen

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Midnight?

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Is that when spriest gets their legendary lol?

empty spindle
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what mainhand enchant we run

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wafting?

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or sophic

teal swift
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Sim, or check icyveins

empty spindle
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bet ty

opaque quest
empty spindle
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Why icy veins and not idk wowhead?

teal swift
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I mean. Either is fine

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They share a lot of the same writers

pallid quiver
# empty spindle Why icy veins and not idk wowhead?

Icyveins is written by our Mwahi here, who's more of a specialist for Prot War than Llarod, the Wowhead writer. Both are fine guides, but you'll at least have a specialist in your class for Icyveins. If you prefer Wowhead, though, then feel free

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I'll just judge you forever for not supporting the good boy Mwahi

teal swift
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The arms warrior guide is written by same person on both, and have completely different talent builds lmaooo

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At the end of the day I'm sure panthea and mandl were consulted at some point

empty spindle
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.>

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im just glad i dont have to use sporecloak

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id hate to take off my mythic sark cloak 😂

jagged pier
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u shouldnt be running that anyway

opaque quest
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Using sark cloak is throwing ngl

pallid quiver
empty spindle
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yeah

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what if i wanna grief people

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its either that or sporecloak

opaque quest
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Just let shieldblock drop. Faster grief

empty spindle
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nah

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gotta make it look like it wasnt my fault

opaque quest
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That train departed when you equipped sark cloak

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./inspect

teal swift
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I like sporecloak, I'ma just send it

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I don't run high enough content where it matters

daring marlin
graceful leaf
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So for week one, we just farm renown and do all the mythic 0s?

teal swift
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Depends if you need the gear or not

jagged pier
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i dont know why u would do m0s

dusky canopy
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Week 1 you do new zone quests

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And wait

jagged pier
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and they removed the rep buff

teal swift
jagged pier
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so theres no point in farming renkown

dusky canopy
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Well augment rune?

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Or is that removed now?

teal swift
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I mean I'll farm new rep and what not

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Just farm rares and have fun

graceful leaf
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Oh I figured m0 would offer sort of ok gear lvl

teal swift
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Mechagon was peak zone

jagged pier
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and its 100k

graceful leaf
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I’m sitting 437

jagged pier
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for what 40 stats

teal swift
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Why can't we get new zones like that

jagged pier
graceful leaf
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Should atleast do one though for half the spark?

dusky canopy
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Big true I’ll probably never have it myself unless it’s earned passively through the content I like doing lol

jagged pier
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same

dusky canopy
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All my DF renown’s are like 15 or less

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I like the idea of “collect all the things”
But when I go to actually do that I get bored right away lol

sick sentinel
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If you punch your self and it hurts, are you weak or strong

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or just idiot

lusty tiger
uneven mason
teal swift
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@jagged pier you're across ocean

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Rhese the same spiders in your house

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Most of the spiders I see Imside are funny weavers or sac spiders

Like 98% of them are those two.specieis lmao

dusty ruin
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If you want the min/max

chrome falcon
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gamers

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i went dwarf for sarkareth

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can i change back

dusty ruin
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Save tokens for wow anniversary

chrome falcon
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or is it still busted next m+ season/raid

teal swift
dusty ruin
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19% rep gain

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This week make sure to use darkmoon faire

uneven mason
teal swift
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Or am I just cope

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For the mount

sick sentinel
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its a spider

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baby spider,

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baby mechaspider

uneven mason
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Arachnotron

sick sentinel
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mama mecha spider

uneven mason
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Did spider mastermind well in Doom

sick sentinel
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spider mastermind is omegalul if you are even remote good at doom

uneven mason
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The 2016

sick sentinel
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its giant hit box and not being able to walk certain doors and hallways makes it very predictable

uneven mason
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I mean the fight was good

sick sentinel
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and you can technically kill it with 1 bfg shot

uneven mason
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But in original, yeah just gotta los that chaingun

sick sentinel
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what you really want to do with them is get them to infight

uneven mason
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Or get it to shoot the cyberdemon

sick sentinel
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cuz they have so much hp + hit scan attack that it mows through many enemies

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thats only the 1 map

uneven mason
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Yeah just hold that run button as it pings everything

sick sentinel
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that he fights the cyber demon

uneven mason
sick sentinel
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wow needs a cyber demon

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a giant fucker similiar in nature to the robots in tbc

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oblirates you if you even think about trying to fight it

uneven mason
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Even cyberdemon is killable

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Like you mean the felreaver

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Which was single group able at 70

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But yeah stuff like that, bigass mob that ruins your day if you're caught

sick sentinel
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a cyber demon

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a mother fucker fuck you by any other name

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fires explosive aoe rockets

uneven mason
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Was a big deal in everquest, nearly every leveling zone had some sorta big nasty that could roll up and end you

sick sentinel
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he does that, thats his only purpose in life to be a big pain in the ass and do that rocket you to death

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relentlessly

teal swift
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Wtb. Time when bugs were big

silent vessel
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huh

teal swift
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Imagine keeping a millipede like this

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Take it on walks

silent vessel
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monka

teal swift
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Imagine just having insects that are like 200cm big

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Instead of a dog

lusty tiger
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@waxen frigate is my 200cm insect pet

teal swift
#

Hmu with extinct dragonflies

lusty tiger
#

He likes to play in the yard ^-^

#

Over here we have real dragonflies

uneven mason
#

Wait, NM, those were mosquitoes

lusty tiger
#

Can confirm both of these statements

teal swift
#

Topkek

uneven mason
#

Where I live you have to watch out for eagles trying to snack on small dogs, in Florida mosquitoes just drain little peppy on the spot

silent vessel
#

hm armory is dead

lusty tiger
#

mosquitos are the worst

#

a very humid dusk is a mosquito nightmare

#

there is a lot you can do to keep mosquitos away though like landscaping type preventative measures

uneven mason
#

My uncle had to "reload" the mosquito traps twice a night while we were visiting

#

Because they'd fill up

lusty tiger
#

yeah there are plants that attaract em and plants that keep them away

#

as well as having a fire pit going is good as the smoke keeps them away

sick sentinel
lusty tiger
#

there are also candles that repel them

sick sentinel
#

engineering mount

lusty tiger
sick sentinel
#

you know.....

lusty tiger
#

this is the car ice cream paint job is about

sick sentinel
#

i kinda want one....

#

i might try it

#

i have many many questions about it, but i want it

#

where the hell is the rear wheels for one? (where is anything on this " " car " ")

uneven mason
ionic plank
#

so it has 3 wheels

#

and 2 at the front makes me think there's only 1 at the back

sick sentinel
#

yeah, i think this dude just made a front end like a normal car, and then put on atrailer attached to it, looks like hes towing something in the back, and its enlongated so he wont flip over

#

thats my working theory for why its so bizarely shaped

ionic plank
#

business in the front, party in the back

sick sentinel
#

i wonder if he has like a bed

ionic plank
#

mullet car

sick sentinel
#

or if its like gas or electric or pedal or like some RV thing

opaque quest
#

You can see an electric motor in the back

#

Im sure its pedals

sick sentinel
#

i think the dark black window is where a loft bed is

#

and he sleeps there in it

#

thats some shit you see if you spend like 400 hours playing some ps2 racing game

silent vessel
#

big

#

but bad for people with potato pc

opaque quest
#

8GB DDR3 cost 5€

#

Im sure ppl can afford 10 bucks

lusty grotto
#

this is a weird fucking change

opaque quest
#

Also text files are only kb

silent vessel
#

i have people in my guild with literally 10k gold over all characters

#

so

lusty grotto
#

because if they played xiv

lusty tiger
#

wait

lusty grotto
#

they would know

lusty tiger
#

is details! dead?

lusty grotto
#

that doesnt solve anything

strong forum
#

it isnt a weird change cuz if you can overlay a dps meter via logs from a 3rd party program

lusty grotto
#

details doesnt read from logs

strong forum
#

you can overlay a whole lot more...

warm plinth
#

Good morning

lusty grotto
#

if youre running an overlay, you bet your fucking ass they will make it so that it reads memory

opaque quest
#

Well its still blizz. Looking at Ions chars he doesnt play his own game keks

lusty grotto
#

thats how the meters work in xiv

#

giga useless change

steady bobcat
#

I wanna play prot warrior , but I’m afraid it’s gonna not be as good as people say

lusty grotto
#

so dont

lusty grotto
#

we're fearless

#

so if youre not fearless, this is not the class for you

#

🙂

lusty tiger
warm plinth
# lusty tiger is details! dead?

No, this is to prevent things like the overlay people used in Aberrus early on to figure out how much DPS augvokers were doing. Details! reads directly from the combat log, not from logs.

opaque quest
#

If you dont wanna play a class because its not good this game isnt for you

#

Every class is a playball

dull sleet
#

You can play any tank to the top lvl if you really want to. If you want to play pugs, yeah other tanks can do more mechanics alone, but besides that there's nothing to worry about, don't be a meta slave

opaque quest
#

Unless you wanna FOTM reroll every patch then go ahead

warm plinth
#

WCL is just an external parse of the combat log file. Details is an internal one. I assume what they are trying to stave off is other types of overlays that could be harmful to the game.

opaque quest
#

Imagine if we had this in the stickies

steady bobcat
#

@opaque quest I do play mage also

silent vessel
#

imagine reading stickies

strong forum
#

pwar is projected to be one of the better tanks next patch

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

and if you let "power" dictate what you play instead of playing what you want to play

#

then idk

sick sentinel
#

there is still a massive question mark above bdk head due to legendary axe potentially very op bdk

strong forum
#

i play whatever the fuck i want

#

and what looks fun

silent vessel
#

here is the official totally unbiased dorki(TM) tier list

strong forum
#

nothing else matters

opaque quest
#

Dude needs FOTM to complete 11s

warm plinth
#

e.g. you can generate facing and positioning from logs, so theoretically you could have overlays that do what old addons did such as drawing lines and shit like that via overlay

sick sentinel
#

i think that once bdk's start to get orange weapon they will pull away bigly or at least contend with big boys

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

a lot of shady shit

opaque quest
warm plinth
#

So far, nothing. Like I said, I think it's to stave off what COULD happen.

sick sentinel
#

heartstrike and DRW on leggo will be nuts

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

you just dont hear about the shady shit

strong forum
#

like literally display graphics

#

over your game

#

and tell you WAY MORE INFO

#

than the game gives you

#

literally wallhack type shit

lusty grotto
#

rotation bots / chatgpt/ai integration

opaque quest
#

Look at echo heart overlay

lusty tiger
#

what is a situation where that is op though?

silent vessel
#

didnt they do this with jailer bombs?

lusty tiger
#

idk about echo heart overlay

strong forum
#

the strongest example

#

is archimonde

warm plinth
#

e.g. have an overlay that draws lines on the game field for raid positioning

strong forum
#

where people did live time graphics

warm plinth
#

that basically negates a fight/mechanic

strong forum
#

to position on the fly

jagged pier
#

oh not only that u could put front cones and stuff on top of the game

#

so u never get hit

#

etc

opaque quest
#

The overlay is so fast reading the log assigning positions to ppl that no human could be even close to it

lusty tiger
#

ohh word

opaque quest
#

You cant stack the debuff or you die

#

The overlay assigns positions

#

No need to communicate

lusty tiger
#

stand where the robot says

sick sentinel
#

i got 64gb ram so i dont worry about the 500mb log it creates from a raid boss

strong forum
#

shit like this

jagged pier
warm plinth
#

Yeah like, they've prevented most of what you could do in-game, but if they don't prevent overlays then they could do the same thing with those that they've already taken steps to get rid of with in-game addons.

opaque quest
lusty tiger
plush tendon
opaque quest
#

We had an overlay on the fist boss too

plush tendon
#

good ol WoD

opaque quest
#

In combination with exorsus

lusty tiger
#

yea a lot of raid positioning is a little math puzzle and that does take the fun out of it

strong forum
#

this poweraura was the first time where blizzard restricted addons access to API

#

and since then

lusty grotto
#

in xiv, and this is being read from memory

strong forum
#

yeah and blizz doesnt want this

#

this is literally cheating

lusty grotto
#

so this change in WoW will make it harder but nowhere near impossible

lusty tiger
strong forum
#

yes

#

before shit happens

#

it displays hitboxes

#

etc

#

literal wallhack if you put it in shooter terms

lusty tiger
#

tbf blizzard are mongos w hit boxes

#

but yeah rough

jagged pier
lusty grotto
#

ah yes

#

who could forget

#

the addon that shall not be named

strong forum
#

that shit resurfaced in SL btw

sick sentinel
jagged pier
ionic plank
lusty grotto
#

yes

silent vessel
#

yes

lusty grotto
#

absolutely 500% illegal

#

against ToS

ionic plank
#

ok thought so

dull sleet
jagged pier
#

thing is

#

its not part of the game

opaque quest
#

Yoshi also says Addons are evil but ive been using them for years

jagged pier
#

cause its an overlay

strong forum
#

technically any form of "addons" in FFXIV is illegal

sick sentinel
#

all of this bullshit

jagged pier
#

so not even detectable by the game

sick sentinel
#

has to go

lusty grotto
#

but the point is, most of the "addons" in xiv read from memory, which means this change in WoW's api/etc wont really do much

sick sentinel
#

it doesnt matter how or why, there is simply too much excess bs

teal swift
lusty grotto
#

just like cheaters they will always find a way

teal swift
#

Either you have some anti cheat bullshit that's over intrusive or you say don't do this and people do it anyways

lusty grotto
#

and thats not to mention, most of XIV memory is encrypted

teal swift
#

I don't particularly care if people cheat tho

opaque quest
#

Its a pve game for me. Idc

strong forum
#

i despise cheaters

#

youre just accepting youre a pissant lacking of any skill

teal swift
#

Ikr

Other people cheat 👌
Other people expecting me to cheat 🔕

strong forum
#

literal trash

opaque quest
#

Ye same but i cant do anything about them so i just get indifferent about it. Getting pissed doesnt change anything

teal swift
#

I don't care if other people are bad though.

lusty grotto
#

well i mean it depends on how competitive you are

strong forum
#

i also care if other people are bad

#

makes me mad

teal swift
#

I don't care if other people RMT

warm plinth
#

RMT isn't the same as cheating

teal swift
opaque quest
#

When i have bad ppl in my grp in 20 keys i get mad

sick sentinel
opaque quest
#

I got the fastest leave group in the west tho

warm plinth
#

You can literally buy gold in the game already

strong forum
sick sentinel
#

if you know, you know

warm plinth
#

No one knows except you yogi

sick sentinel
#

reverse google search

teal swift
#

It's a 7 the most likely combination on two dice rolled

teal swift
opaque quest
lusty grotto
#

im gonna need lunch

#

i guess

sick sentinel
#

the guy is a cheater in this img

opaque quest
#

Im gonna eat toast hawaii in 10 minutes xan

teal swift
ionic plank
#

love a toast sandwich

opaque quest
#

Toast with ham and pineapple and cheese on top baked in the oven

#

Poor mans pineapple pizza

sick sentinel
#

im surprised the loaded dice toilet guy got memory holed so fast

teal swift
#

Fucking hate pineapple

#

But like peaches are delicious on pizza

lusty tiger
#

cheating in wow means youre too lame to solve the encounters yourself

#

it is cringe

opaque quest
lusty tiger
#

cant deny that too much

#

tbh it feels so much better having 3 PUMPERS

opaque quest
#

Ya defo. I like keys without aug more

lusty tiger
#

but at the same time aug makes big pulls a lot better and easier

opaque quest
#

Especially in 17s and stuff where the ppl with aug do 55 instead of 50k keks

lusty tiger
#

XD

opaque quest
#

No need for aug. Wtb snackrifice and im good

lusty tiger
#

i was doing some dirty dmg on my fdk this weekend w an aug

opaque quest
#

2h oblit pumps in M+

lusty tiger
#

ye it is always a good time

#

fkn 2 pillars in between slappy hands

#

so fun

opaque quest
#

Try it on sark. DND/Pillar lines up with add spawn

lusty tiger
#

oh thats hot

opaque quest
lusty tiger
#

heroic?

opaque quest
#

Yea

lusty tiger
#

nice nice

#

seems like a good time

#

my buddy on ret did 200k in an ulda

#

w an aug

#

was like a low 20 something i think

opaque quest
#

Good DPS with aug is crazy

#

To bad you dont find those good dps lmao

lusty grotto
#

or a good aug

#

that eons when cds are up

lusty tiger
#

well we have been playing together for years now and are just breaking into the getting good players to play w us territory

#

i know 2 things about aug:

  1. eruption only during ebon might
  2. have good ebon might uptime
#

is eon "breath"?

lusty grotto
#

yes

lusty tiger
#

word

lusty grotto
#

it explodes based on damage done

#

so you use it when people have cds up and its a big pull

lusty tiger
#

ye

lusty grotto
#

keeping ebon up is just the standard rotation

dull sleet
#

Fdk is fun anyways, too bad they don't have much utility, the cleave and burst gives me more will to live than my girl

lusty grotto
#

upheaval/breath to put versa on the homies after it goes off, thats it

lusty tiger
#

yo this guy talks to girls

lusty tiger
opaque quest
#

Gonna roll with my DK again next patch. Unholy tho

#

With all the garg changes i might have dmg outside of my 3 min splurge

lusty grotto
#

im playing arms in a guild and im kinda dreading it

#

but if i want the loot i gotta do it

opaque quest
#

Keep rend up. Press MS and OP on CD

#

Press exe when rdy

lusty grotto
#

not having IP is gonna be badge

opaque quest
#

= big deepz

#

Ye less ToM and OP resets

lusty grotto
#

yeah its just ww and tc for spenders

#

and they have cds

opaque quest
#

Gonna feel weird to use TC in ST so much

winged flume
#

sup, im back for 10.2 what did i miss

lusty tiger
#

beacon being op, thats it really

#

and aug is cringe

#

but op

winged flume
#

i see. prot warrior still superior to all other classes?

lusty tiger
#

it is gigachad spec

uneven mason
silent vessel
#

gigachad spec is gonna be COLOSSUS

#

C O L O S S U S

lusty tiger
#

👏

uneven mason
teal swift
#

Warriors are the weeb class.

lusty grotto
#

fuck no we aint

lusty tiger
#

fucking penn

#

amazing

teal swift
#

Prot Warrior be like

lusty grotto
#

NO WEEBS ALLOWED

#

gtfo

lusty tiger
#

i mean weebs allowed

#

but that is not what pwar is like

#

@sick sentinel

#

can we have a sample of the pwar aesthetic please

lusty grotto
#

the irony where i raid in xiv and hate weebs

strong forum
lusty grotto
#

😎

teal swift
lusty tiger
teal swift
#

Isn't xiv actually weeb game

strong forum
#

xiv is as weeb as it gets

lusty grotto
#

i guess?

teal swift
strong forum
#

uuuh bunny senpai

#

i think

teal swift
#

I think I've seen some... Alternative art of that girl

lusty grotto
#

i just fucking absolutely hate anime

versed lake
teal swift
#

I like manga, don't watch anime

#

Idk if I'm weeb

lusty grotto
#

shrug

#

its the same shit

#

same characters

#

same tropes

#

its boring as fuck

teal swift
#

I like bugs

#

More than anime

lusty grotto
#

good

teal swift
#

Tho I think this is classified as an aquatic creature

#

Even if they are related closely to other bugs

lusty tiger
#

i hate roaches

#

they are foul and disgusting

lusty grotto
#

i agree

#

any other bug is fine

#

well

#

wasps and hornets can die in a fire too

hazy kite
#

is there a spell reflect wa or macro ppl use?

lusty tiger
#

idk

#

silverfish are pretty gross

#

spiders are ok as long as they stay away from me

strong forum
#

i use a generic weakaura that yells out when im spell reflecting

#

but i dont think it really is useful xd

hazy kite
#

its like white and says spell reflect right?

#

what I see in streams

lusty grotto
#

i just have it macro'd

strong forum
#

mine yells, so its red

hazy kite
#

so macro aha figure

strong forum
#

macroing it causes you do be able to spam it

#

even if you dont have it ready

lusty grotto
#

mine yells, says, party chat

dusky canopy
#

Yes and?

lusty grotto
#

and of course people still kick bullshit

strong forum
#

youre just yelling even if its not ready

lusty grotto
#

yeah thats fine

strong forum
#

kinda counterproductive with a macro

lusty grotto
#

yelling is great

hazy kite
#

yeah pugs dont look at chat so yell is for u majority of time

lusty grotto
#

dont care

hazy kite
#

good to know tho will just macro it

lusty grotto
#

well they def kick when you have SR Up

#

so if you want a kick, make sure you reflect

hazy kite
#

yep

dusky canopy
#

Lmao

#

You can’t just simply macro “kick here” then they’ll ignore

#

It has to say “spell reflecting”

lusty grotto
#

Yeah reverse psychology that shit

lusty tiger
#

KICK OR I KICK YOU

lusty grotto
uneven mason
#

Just be like 🖕ping means kick this, so when I 🖕kick

toxic pewter
#

do you guys actually use ping system

#

what best keybind for ping

lusty tiger
#

i still need to bind mine

lusty grotto
#

i use it

lusty tiger
#

probably some kind of mouse button

lusty grotto
#

i use it a lot

toxic pewter
#

I seem to forget about it for some reason

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
#

especially on vault keys for alts

#

that shit is goin off asap

#

just the default

#

for positioning

toxic pewter
#

ok the blue one

#

ok right

opaque quest
#

I love the danger ping

#

For ticks in underrot

#

Idiots pull alot less now

toxic pewter
#

do you have a keybind for each ping type, or literally use the menu to do a danger ping does that make sense

lusty grotto
#

you can just hold the bind

#

and select which one you want

toxic pewter
#

ok

lusty grotto
#

i just dont cause i need it fast

opaque quest
#

I hold alt left

#

And select it

#

Like hots

toxic pewter
#

wait wat u mean by that

#

what do you mean by left

opaque quest
#

German ISO layout has 2 alt keys

#

Right is next to FN left is right of windows key

toxic pewter
#

ohh right the left alt, gotcha, yah that is what i am using alt left + mouse middle button

lusty grotto
#

i use this button

#

on my g502

#

tap for quick Look Here

#

hold for others

#

so basically its just that one

teal swift
#

I have a different mouse

#

But I basically use this button

void seal
#

Hey guys I am new to protection warrior, do I ever use the ability taunt? it seems heroic throw is better in every way

teal swift
#

Has 2 side buttons, front one is skull marker back one is ping

silk kiln
#

You can’t heroic throw in melee range so that’s one time you’d use taunt

uneven mason
#

Heroic throw is for ranged pulling, taunt is literally to lock aggro, it has a multiplier applied to every ability you use for 3s after on top of making you #1

#

It's mostly used in raids for tank swaps, or for getting the attention of something that isn't near melee range

#

Taunt + heroic throw is generally enough aggro that the mob will die before a DPS pulls it off of you in dungeons

#

Even if you do nothing else to it

void seal
#

ok cool, thanks!

warm plinth
#

gross g502

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

Nim, it is over.

lusty grotto
#

what is

#

did you finish all alts?

warm plinth
lusty grotto
#

nice nice

strong forum
#

Why stop at 70%

lusty grotto
#

now waiting room for exp

strong forum
#

Go for 100!

lusty grotto
warm plinth
#

70% of what

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

Clearly says your classes are only at 70

#

We all know 100 is max

#

That's basic math

lusty grotto
#

true true

warm plinth
#

Guess how excited I am to do 10 more levels on all of them in 11.0

strong forum
#

3

lusty grotto
#

xD

vocal nimbus
#

one of each in legion start would be understandable

#

but now?

lusty grotto
#

why not

#

DF has turbulent timeways

#

and he used it a lot

warm plinth
#

Eh, idk if I'd say a lot lol

vocal nimbus
#

it would hurt my sanity to do that leveling 🤷‍♂️

lusty grotto
#

well i certainly did

#

i leveled 5 characters with it

warm plinth
#

I mean, I had them all at 60 before Shadowlands ended, so it was just 10 levels on each

#

The only reason it took so long is because the questing in Dragonflight is boring as fuck

lusty grotto
#

i wouldnt say its boring

#

its just doing it so much

#

makes it boring heh

teal swift
#

I kinda wanna make a one for all challenge

#

Other than specless

#

That seems kinda lame, since you don't have a specless for all 13 classes

warm plinth
#

Specless is just a meme. You can't really level it without losing your fucking mind. It would probably be worse than just doing Doubleagent's method

teal swift
#

You did it tho

warm plinth
#

It was powerleveled literally all but 2 levels lol

strong forum
#

Specless is way easier than double agent lol

teal swift
#

^

warm plinth
#

No it's not

strong forum
#

Fucking picking flowers

#

For decades

teal swift
#

Did double agent come back

#

To do DF?

strong forum
#

How is that better than specless

warm plinth
#

Picking flowers is 0 effort

#

Go try killing quest mobs as a specless toon

#

It's agonizingly slow

strong forum
#

It's pure insanity

teal swift
strong forum
#

To pick a couple millions flowers

teal swift
#

He has to pick flowers

strong forum
#

MILLIONS