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teal swift
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Smhmh

toxic pewter
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Apparently vdh is all the craze

teal swift
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Dunno,will see what's meta soon lol

lusty grotto
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its vdh

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for now

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but keys meta does not mean raid meta

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as if there's anything like it honestly

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vdh arent a good ST tank

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their ST damage is subpar

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RWF will most likely pick brew for mystic touch

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and/or BDK

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since havoc is also a ridiculous dps they wont need a VDH to cover the magic buff

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prot warrior is a great pick as well for RWF

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since our ST damage is amazeballs with tier

teal swift
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Yeah, I honestly pilot the tank I find fun. Not the #1

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I found prot warrior fun in slands s2

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I did not enjoy orot warrior in bfa

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Even when it was on top.

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Vdh felt kinda iffy in the past when it was squishy, much kitijg

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But s4 bfa it felt fantastic, completely immortal

empty spindle
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m+ usually comes out same reset as raid

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which is week 2

ebon geyser
empty spindle
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use week 1 to try and get unlimited aug rune

teal swift
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Can't get in one week anymkre

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They removed a 50% rep buff

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That people were gonna abhse

silver narwhal
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Hello there. Is there any specific debuffs you want to track on enemy nameplates? Trying to declutter my UI.

blazing condor
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Going into next patch its probably good to track dots

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Like rend

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To see if they all have it

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Otherwise i dont think theres anything thats ”necessary”

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Cc and stuns could be good

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I usually call when traps/para’s are about to expire

silent vessel
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how would you rend ever run out except when you are dead

pallid quiver
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When you eat it

silent vessel
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then you just reapply

jagged pier
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U can eat it and not have it up next patch

silent vessel
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weirdge

jagged pier
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Espeically during burst as u dump so kuch rage with IP

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And that has like a 90% chance to proc the set

pallid quiver
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I believe that Nome had someone make a WA for that tier set or something, too

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he linked it and I forgot

ebon geyser
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What is an easy brain dead os for prot?

pallid quiver
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God, I physically can't understand what you're saying with that because my fighting game brain keeps translating os as option select

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sorry, can you ask what you're asking with different words so i'm less stupid

ebon geyser
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What is a good off spec for prot

jagged pier
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Ither

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Dont matter

pallid quiver
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Oh, Arms shares the same stats, iirc, but either's fine

ebon geyser
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Hi jakey

pallid quiver
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I'd say arms just because you only need one wep

ebon geyser
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I think I'm going war and hope for the best

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I'm scared but is w/e

pallid quiver
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or you just sneak in as prot war and pretend to DPS, it'll be fine

ebon geyser
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Was planning going back paladin but I just can't do that blessing game.

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I guess I'll roleplay anduin next xpac lol

pallid quiver
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suddenly he's a priest

Is Anduin still a priest?

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or is he like a multiclass pala priest?

jagged pier
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Hes a preist

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Priest*

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They said ages ago, the heros weps dont conform to their class

ebon geyser
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Plate priest when

jagged pier
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And he armour yer

median tulip
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He's got strong Plate Armour game for a Priest

jagged pier
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I mean he said he has no light who knows but ppl complained about it at the bfa cinematic

ebon geyser
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He has a warrior weapon ....triggered

jagged pier
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And blizz said the chars dont conform to thoughs thoughts of things

pallid quiver
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Yeah, they mentioned things like that back in like BC, too, I think

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that's why i had to ask

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since it also wouldn't be the first time someone swapped

median tulip
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Maybe Plate Armour Proficiency comes with the subclass that can be either Shadow or Holy

jagged pier
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No

pallid quiver
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anduin's on that classic+ game early

jagged pier
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Thats not how they work

pallid quiver
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got himself a rune for plate armor prof

jagged pier
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And thrall is warrior from what i remeber now, so would be dumb to make hin and anduin warrior class

jagged pier
median tulip
jagged pier
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Also not how it works but ok

pallid quiver
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but my shitpost tho

ebon geyser
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Can we item restoration King Wrynn

pallid quiver
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we waited too long, you'd have to get a GM on your side for that one

ebon geyser
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I was also hoping so bad to see mommy sylvannas

median tulip
teal swift
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ngl

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idc about the uptime of dragon roar

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:kekw:

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it was fun

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to just nuke all your bleeds

jagged pier
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He lost his connection to the elements when he killed garrosh in the marrkora the way he did

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Is the last i remeber. Think it was mentioned in one of thoughs SLs cinematics

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But i am no lore expert 🤷

lusty coyote
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ohh

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missed that completely

lavish sphinx
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@jagged pier I was saving this meme for you

hollow flower
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Is it known how much the Key will downrank from Season to season

silent vessel
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not 100% known yet, estimate is 10 ranks

jagged pier
sick sentinel
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dont know exactly why but spent good portion of yesterday on priest

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got them 4 lvls

lavish sphinx
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Priests are great Yogi

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Shadow in the dust from Wednesday though

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Some more cat content

ebon geyser
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CATTOO doiong a kronch

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@jagged pier any WA or addons u recommend

jagged pier
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not really

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i run less than most ppl

pallid quiver
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You really just need a way to track important CDs and probably something to track Outburst

ebon geyser
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like?

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hit me

pallid quiver
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anything other than that's preference, with a decent emphasis on SB dura

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T Roar/Avatar

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Shield Wall

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things with variable CDs bare minimum

ebon geyser
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i see @strong forum has one in the WA site , i just wanna know what else , i got the IP one

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and i also got the t31 tracker

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is there anything that will help me with the spell reflect etc

jagged pier
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your eyes

ebon geyser
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welp im foked

jagged pier
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there are SR trackers but they tell u when u can reflect a spell

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not nesscarily the correct spell

blazing condor
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U kinda just gotta learn which spells to reflect and when

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Like for last dude in NL you cast reflect on the landslide even though you reflect the molten smash

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So u can line up the cd

ebon geyser
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im looking at the spreadsheet for what can we reflect in s3 just so i can start having an idea

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also our talents are they gonna get shuffled or no

dull sleet
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Look at the pinned posts, there are the talent predictions for 10.2

blazing condor
ebon geyser
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so the push build and the key dmg build what are the diference what are their purpose

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also should i go with the regular raid build since i dont have tier set

dusky canopy
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Well you dont need bolster if you dont have the tier set

pallid quiver
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Push build is anytime you're doing content you actually need to try/is hard in

ebon geyser
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so for someone that is only planning on aotc and up to 20 hopefully

pallid quiver
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depends on what you have difficulty with

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some people will need push for 20, some will be damage gaming until like 24s or something

ebon geyser
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never done anything with warrior so im completely new

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sorry about all the questions

teal swift
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Just go damage

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It'll be more reactive to gameplay

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And you can improve easier

unreal abyss
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where should I craft the flavour pocket

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so I dont lose it next season? 😛

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neck?

dusky canopy
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Neck is safe bet imo

sick sentinel
grizzled nova
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titanic signet is generally the best place for it

unreal abyss
sick sentinel
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still boggles my mind that we were hard limited to 2 embellishments

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that maybe do 1% more dps, or 1.5% more dps, but then it has versamastery forced you don't want and cant change (blacksmith shields example)

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so then you lose 0.6% dps and its now a 0.9%dps gain and technically a loss /s

grizzled nova
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they'll probably allow more in fated season

sick sentinel
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i think the only thing i would change about it is that you COULD change the normal forced stats that already come on an item like that

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but it requires some green/blue reagent, that requires a small farm

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and/or its +25 blacksmithing skill (for rank 1-5) when crafting

hardy snow
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but secondaries doesnt matter that much to be a problem when its on 1 or 2 items

dusky canopy
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so this isnt a scenario to think about

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but yes ring is also a good option

grizzled nova
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and if you want that option putting it on neck doesn't make sense, the stat opportunity cost is the same on ring and neck, may as well put it on ring

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I think there's actually no haste heavy/crit jewellery next season too, so probably using crafted jewellery anyway

teal swift
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Neck or Titanic ring

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Both seem good to me.

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Even if there is a bis ring you need

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It'll prolly be unique ewuipped

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And you'll prolly default to Titanic anyways

rancid tiger
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i mean its 3 ilvls and u get socket

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so i mean rings are great to craft next tier as well imho

strong forum
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rings are always a great craft

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same goes for neck

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just not prio initially over embellish

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and since first mythic boss also drops shield, shield is also not that much of a prio

blazing condor
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what embellish we gonna go with?

crude scaffold
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Frostfire Belt for one yeah?

median tulip
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Double Shadowflame is probably still good

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TBH it doesn't matter all that much; all of the embellishments are pretty much of a muchness when you get right down to it

sharp ruin
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yeah doblue shadowflame is probably still the best option

blazing condor
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idk with the nerfs

inland raft
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So the damage build for 10.2 itf no bolster so would expect some downtime on shield block occasionally no?

hardy snow
unreal abyss
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Hey, do I spam Ignore Pain on cd?

hazy bronze
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It has no CD for prot

blazing condor
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well a gcd

unreal abyss
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I meant like do I pump all my rage into it

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and only cast revenger when procced?

hazy bronze
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No

opaque quest
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Depends. If you eat NL fortified trash nature dmg frontal and have no CD or external then yes

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Cause you will die without

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Unless its a low key then just use IP to not overcap rage

unreal abyss
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Also I saw ppl using clique for mousewheelup/down for these two

daring marlin
unreal abyss
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how do you scroll up/down then? 😄

strong forum
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generally when you play optimally you should need to press IP roughly every 4 seconds

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just to prevent overcapping of rage

grim pilot
strong forum
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treat revenge as you deepwounds applicator and shield slam reset button when TC is already on CD

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ignore pain is used to prevent overcapping of rage aka roughly around 60-80 rage

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and obv use it before youre about to hit a fat tank buster

unreal abyss
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do I use IP alongiside other CD?

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I am used to tankadin mostly 😄 so I rotate my CDs

strong forum
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IP isnt a CD

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you keep up shield block like sotr

unreal abyss
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so its not a standalone

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okay

modern gazelle
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Any good tank specific guides and POVs for the new raid?

strong forum
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and you keep IP up somewhat like consecration

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raid isnt out

modern gazelle
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Ptr has been out though so isn’t there any videos from that?

unreal abyss
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thanks 😄

opaque quest
knotty vortex
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are we gonna wanna break our 4set when we get 2set of the new? or wait till the entire 4set

strong forum
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for raid 2pc2pc until full 4pc/or sim higher

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basically instantly actually

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even in m+

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new 2pc does more than current 4pc

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and offers more defense

knotty vortex
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awesome ty

sick sentinel
strong forum
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based

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but getting fat on chinese food is really hard

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so theyre baiting you!

blazing condor
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maybe they have american portion sizes

wind oak
strong forum
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Sir its not in the for kill

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Smh

wind oak
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In Kill for The ?

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sounds better

toxic pewter
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Fyrak legendary bad luck protection from start

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Gonna be similar to evoker

strong forum
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Except that evoker blp fucking sucked ass

toxic pewter
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Gonna go whole patch with shit not dropping

strong forum
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Friend of mine did 11 hc and 8 mythic kills

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And didn't get it

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after blp was introduced

toxic pewter
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Ya u think they gonna make it better

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They have to

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Right

strong forum
toxic pewter
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Yea lol

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Is there any loot we want from fyrak in prot spec anyway, not really right

knotty vortex
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the weapon for sure

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is bis i thin k

toxic pewter
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Oh yeah that 1h axe fuk

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How will I get the legendary though

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Prob will need to be in dps loot spec…

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Awkward

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I guess fury

knotty vortex
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i doubt it u just need to be the class

toxic pewter
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I know it’s personal loot probably right

knotty vortex
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yes

toxic pewter
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Ok

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Would be badass if you get 1h axe and legendary in same kill

knotty vortex
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if u win ur roll vs others

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or have it asigned

toxic pewter
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U mean rolls for 1h axe

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Only other competition would be port pally I guess?

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Not many specs use strength 1h axe

knotty vortex
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dk

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frost

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but not sure

toxic pewter
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Oh ya frost

sick sentinel
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yes frost and other dk specs that can DW

toxic pewter
strong forum
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Yes rage heart

jagged pier
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fyrak trinket

strong forum
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It's called fyrakks tainted rageheart

sick sentinel
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often, but not always, agi 1h swords axes maces

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are str

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as well

toxic pewter
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Imagine getting 1h axe, rage heart trinket, and legendary in single kill

strong forum
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Not impossible

toxic pewter
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Why not

strong forum
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I just said it's possible

toxic pewter
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Oh sorry misread

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Awkward

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Yah that would be awesome

strong forum
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Cuz I seriously doubt they spec lock the quest drop or w/e it is

toxic pewter
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Yah I’m gonna go fury loot spec to be safe

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Does he drop any other 2h

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Other than legendary

strong forum
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Dont think so

sick sentinel
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im all ready to go on the 2h

toxic pewter
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Yeah damn

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Nice

sand drum
sick sentinel
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hell no

vast loom
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hi, fresh prot here - is there any situation i use rend when specced into blood and thunder?

sick sentinel
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420 and boosted

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new boosted

sick sentinel
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new boost is 424 all slots, and uh 20 to each rep

vast loom
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sweet, i love clapping, thanks

sick sentinel
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This is what a new boost gives

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for those curious

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i love those shoulders

strong forum
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Ready for mythic raid tbh

sick sentinel
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no set bonus

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cant even thingy it to set

toxic pewter
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You boosted a pally eh? May end up boosting dk myself.. hmm….

sick sentinel
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i probably wont play him much or at all

toxic pewter
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Wonder if I can get a Heritage armor on boosted char

jagged pier
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nope

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u need to lvl to get it

toxic pewter
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Damn

sick sentinel
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but yeah, i figured paladin is best, i at least have transmog on it and black smith

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depends

toxic pewter
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Paladin solid boost class I agree

sick sentinel
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depends on the heritage in question

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i forget the split

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but its 1 needs rep

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1 needs lvld by hand

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and all of the heritages fall into one camp or the other

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rep ones you don't have to do a huge quest, lvl ones u have to do a quest line i think

toxic pewter
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Yah I think allied races you gotta level em up to get heritage

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Non allied maybe need exalted or some crap with rep? I forget at this point

blazing condor
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Hell id get the boost just for the renown

sick sentinel
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the only ones i dont have are the new ones

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im lazy

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i literally have an undead, maybe i didnt lvl it

toxic pewter
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season 4 with fated raids coming back apparently

vocal nimbus
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hi

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im back from end of patch hibernation

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wanna know what trinkets i gotta be looking out for 10.3

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if the list has been made at all that is

toxic pewter
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check pins and FAQ

vocal nimbus
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noted

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kinda buried for the tl;dr enjoyer :c

novel temple
novel temple
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Especially when fated raids come around

strong forum
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dunno about forever

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cuz 4pc provides the instant reset of TC and TR CDR

toxic pewter
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I am just gonna use items with best ilvl lol and get 2pc/2pc for however long necessary

strong forum
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  • 40ilvl diff
jagged pier
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i dont think u can old tier sets from fated

strong forum
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and we dont know how theyre gonna do tiersets in fated

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ye

jagged pier
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pretty sure u couldnt

strong forum
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well

jagged pier
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maybe im mis remebering

strong forum
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in SL you only had 1 tierset

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sooooo

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yeh

jagged pier
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ah true

toxic pewter
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wont they just use season 3 tier set in season 4

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isnt that what they did in sl

strong forum
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again

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SL only had 1 tierset

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DF has 3 tiersets

toxic pewter
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oh shit lol i forgot

strong forum
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and youll be able to play all 3 raids again (probably)

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so either theyre gonna change loot tables

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or youll actually have all 3 tiersets available

toxic pewter
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would be interesting have all 3 available, which one u think is best

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prob this season 3 one right

strong forum
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amirdrassil

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ye s3 set for m+

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and 2pc/2pc for raid

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s1 set completely invalidated

toxic pewter
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would be insane if the new hero talent let us use 2h weapons lol

strong forum
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i aint gonna speculate about anything

toxic pewter
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why not

strong forum
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no point

toxic pewter
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but its sort of fun no

strong forum
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not a fan of playing make believe

toxic pewter
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that is true it is all made up

novel temple
karmic plinth
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im putting money on them doing something silly in the stances

toxic pewter
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I mean colossus alone just sounds like me big me big weapon me strong

karmic plinth
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id not be surprised if they added some sort of colossus smash proc to something we do like how guardian gets foe procs

toxic pewter
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yeah having 2h weapon prob just not gonna happen realisitically

karmic plinth
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something something 'recognisable outlines'

toxic pewter
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ya its understandable to some degree just been 20 years of 1h and shield

karmic plinth
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considering its shared between arms and prot there will probably be some bleed stuff and some battle stance related stuff

toxic pewter
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yah i can see that

karmic plinth
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that being said on the 'recognisable outline,' we see in the trailers a character who is clearly a mountain thane using a single two hander. probably just mockup footage thats not indicative of anything, but could be something to go off of

toxic pewter
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yah I actually was thinking wouldnt it be wild if prot could tank with 2 1handers like mountain king in wc3 lol

toxic pewter
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is that orc a warrior u think?

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with the 2h in the trailer

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thats who you are referencing right

karmic plinth
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ye he shares the effects that we see from the mountain thane presentation

toxic pewter
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oh snap those are storm bolts

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hes throwing

karmic plinth
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could be heroic throw made lightning too

toxic pewter
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i am rewatching

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yah true

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thought he was a shaman for some reason when I watched first time

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but they dont even use 2h

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that could be a colossus arms warrior actually

karmic plinth
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it could be an ele with a staff mogged to an axe but that doesnt seem very shaman silhouette

toxic pewter
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now that i think about it

karmic plinth
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we see this one character again and again in the trailers and its definitely a warrior

toxic pewter
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dude.. I think we about to get 2h tank cuz that same warrior is tanking this boss with a 2h

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INCOMING 2H WARRIOR TANK BOYS

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ITS HAPPENING

karmic plinth
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could hust be trailer gubbins but we see the same in the hallowfall dungeon

toxic pewter
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here he is again with a 2h axe leading his group

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yes

karmic plinth
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diff warr but this is again the only tank class in the group

toxic pewter
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that is warrior armor too

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wheres the SHIELD?!?!?!

jagged pier
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as blizzard have said many times dont read into things like this

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like the evo having leather armour in the warbands screenshot

toxic pewter
karmic plinth
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ye could be all a grain of salt

toxic pewter
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still fun to speculate though

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dracthyr definitely gonna be able to use different classes

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would be dumb for them not to do it question is when

lusty tiger
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Well

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They’re adding cross armour type tmogging

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So…

karmic plinth
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no they arent

lusty tiger
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???

karmic plinth
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you can collect appearances on any character

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not use them

lusty tiger
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I though it said you could use them too

toxic pewter
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collect only yea

lusty tiger
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🤔

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I can’t double check rn

toxic pewter
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EXPAND THE POTENTIAL OF YOUR ALTS – With Warbands, players can enjoy account-wide progression with all characters in their Battle.net® account, regardless of faction, that includes shared War Within™ renown, a warband bank, achievements, and more! Additionally, a new change to transmog collection will let players learn the appearance of any gear type, even if they cannot equip it!

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they can 'learn' the transmog effectively for their alts of differing armor type

lusty tiger
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I mean

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That still has the door wide open

toxic pewter
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the wording does kind of suck though

lusty tiger
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To be able to cross type tmog

toxic pewter
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yah I can see that happening one day perhaps.. would be cool

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like I want to wear the mage 10.2 tier set

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on my warr

lusty tiger
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When I heard learn I though (learning to cross type tmog) lol

toxic pewter
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yeah they worded it pretty badly

sick sentinel
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there is not a flight path item for DF right

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the map, typically its a map

toxic pewter
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no not yet

sick sentinel
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got some of them on alts

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not all

toxic pewter
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the maps prob going away next xpac apparently flightpaths will be shared with warband. going away for future content i mean

sick sentinel
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is its a 10.2 or 10.2.5 thing

lusty tiger
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Remember flight master whistles

sick sentinel
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yeah, bring those back

lusty tiger
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Why lol

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Just give us flying for the whole xpac

sick sentinel
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so god damn handy to just be teleported to nearest one

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put it in for world wide works anywhere basically but dungeons and raids and caves

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same cool down, it goes for the nearest one to you

lusty tiger
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Well, a flight master whistle toy I could get behind

sick sentinel
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i dunno if there is a way to see how many times it was casted in bfa

lusty tiger
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lol

sick sentinel
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but it was easily EASILY 4 digits

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that thing was fuckin nuts

lusty tiger
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Unlocking flying was such a bad mechanic

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I hope that never returns

sick sentinel
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hear me out, yes, but no

lusty tiger
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Because I hate doing the single player content

sick sentinel
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i think lvl 10 or 5 or whatever slow mount, lvl 15 fast, 20 flying, 30 fast flying, 40+ dragon

lusty tiger
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Like… character level?

sick sentinel
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yes

lusty tiger
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Oh sure

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That’s cool

toxic pewter
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dynamic flying available day 1 of new xpac. TBC flying available when you reach lvl 80 (no achievement needed, etc)

lusty tiger
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I just mean at max level there’s no reason to restrict flying

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lol

sick sentinel
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better than never

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helicopter flying mount also extremly over powered

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click to move billion miles away

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afk

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profit

lusty tiger
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?

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How did that work?

sick sentinel
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helicopter mount to above most terrain so u dont collide

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click to move desired location

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afk

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profit

lusty tiger
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That is some tech I was unaware of

sick sentinel
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cuz, your dude don't stop moving lol

#

its, u should keep eye on it incase something happens, get attacked or hit a mountain

lusty tiger
#

Yea that’s tight

toxic pewter
#

u guys gonna be dynamic or old school flyers

lusty tiger
#

Dynamic prob

sick sentinel
#

depends on what needs doing

#

probably a mix of both

toxic pewter
#

I wonder how the toggle will work.. something tells me will have to talk to an npc to switch between the two

lusty tiger
#

I would expect it to be like a talent swap in your dragon riding tree

toxic pewter
#

all day maintenance on tuesday for the patch it seems 7-3 pm pst

mighty valley
#

if nothing changes, dynamic is like 3x as fast

lusty tiger
#

Ye

toxic pewter
#

a lot of people like to afk fly though

#

or alt tab fly

lusty tiger
#

Yea

#

I think they have done a pretty good job with world traversal

toxic pewter
#

I was against bringing back tbc flying but I changed my views I am Ok with it

lusty tiger
#

Port to dungeon, dynamic flying, portals to old dungeons

lusty tiger
#

What do you mean by that

toxic pewter
#

that sort of what they calling old school flying

#

flying introduced in the burning crusade

lusty tiger
#

Right and you just needed to pay gold

toxic pewter
#

ya

lusty tiger
#

That’s fine

#

Esp w wow tokens lol it makes sense

toxic pewter
#

I need to make big gains at start of xpac

#

already planning which professions to try and corner market

silk kiln
#

So dracthyr bis

lusty tiger
#

We hitting the gym apb?

toxic pewter
#

oh no i mean wow gold gains

#

LOL

lusty tiger
#

I know

#

But we hitting the gym or what

toxic pewter
#

i need to i ate an entire chicken teriyaki last night at like 1 am

lusty tiger
#

lol

toxic pewter
lusty tiger
toxic pewter
silk kiln
#

Dragon flying

toxic pewter
#

oh for flying its cool

#

yeah thats true cant deny that

lusty tiger
#

When r we getting bird people

toxic pewter
#

what kind of bird

lusty tiger
#

Like bird person

toxic pewter
#

maybe like a falcon humanoid or eagle or something

#

birdbperson would be cool

toxic pewter
#

with his voice and monotone and everything

silk kiln
#

Niffen first please

silk kiln
#

Always bring a buddy

sick sentinel
#

ho boy asmon trying to do ksm in 1 night

#

and the heroic raid, gunna be a long night

toxic pewter
#

omg asmon is on retail wow now? lol

#

im unironically watching him

#

thats great

sick sentinel
#

yeah, hes on there hes asking if fury is the good spec

toxic pewter
#

wild seeing him on retail O_O if anything I figured he would be on hardcore classic

sick sentinel
#

he should be inviting more augs

blazing condor
#

How u gonna do ksm in one night

#

He needs tyran and fort

#

Unless hes doing like 30s

sick sentinel
#

he claims he can do it somehow!

torn gulch
#

you need all timed 20's on one side for ksm

#

and heroic raid he can be carried in like 2 hours

sick sentinel
#

21s he thinks

torn gulch
#

20's

#

you get 250 points per 20 timed

toxic pewter
#

ya but he needs fort and tyran ya lol

torn gulch
#

on one side

#

250x8 2k

toxic pewter
#

oh wait its KSM not KSH right

torn gulch
#

ksh is not feasible for him

sick sentinel
#

the raging balding raid leader....

torn gulch
#

at this point

sick sentinel
#

he has returned

#

i think he wants ksm for mount

torn gulch
#

ksm is more than possible

#

if he has a dedicated group he can do ksm in let's say 5-6h

#

then heroic raid in 2h

blazing condor
#

Doing 8x 20s is free in that case

#

He can just afk and have a semi good team carry him if hed want

sick sentinel
#

hes starting first boss heroic

lusty tiger
#

Heroic raid is ez pz lemon

sick sentinel
#

hes not in the top 13 dps lol gunna be a long night indeed

lusty tiger
#

Under tank?

#

This vid is awesome

sick sentinel
#

LOL he's already got a dreadnaughts plate

ebon geyser
jagged pier
lusty tiger
#

Asmon will leave that raid at 437 ilvl

ebon geyser
#

He gets carried in everything. He is a leech

#

And a shit player too

#

So 🤷‍♂️

lusty tiger
#

Asmon h8er

#

Very critical of the old guy

ebon geyser
#

Is true though so

jagged pier
#

he fell off hard after legion

#

he even says himself hes not good anymore and the games too hard

#

only one of those statements is true

lusty tiger
#

That’s bcuz bfa raiding 🤮

jagged pier
#

bfa raiding was the only good part

lusty tiger
#

Prepping for raid via AP was ass

#

The raids were alright

jagged pier
#

thats not raiding tho

#

thats extra

lusty tiger
#

It is a part of being ready for raid

#

That’s the only thing I have against bfa raids tbh

#

You didn’t like the m+?

jagged pier
#

if i thought like that i would call raiding shit all the time

#

because i dont enjoy m+

#

and u have to do that to raid

lusty tiger
#

Word

#

U don’t even like m+ with guildiez?

ebon geyser
#

U don't m+ @jagged pier ??

jagged pier
#

i didnt say that

#

i said i dont enjoy it

#

i dont enjoy content being mandatory

#

I dont have to raid if i dont want to but i choose to

#

but to do that I have to do m+

#

which i dont enjoy

#

should give seperate loot for the different content

lusty tiger
#

Probably yeah

#

If all 3 content types worked like pvp gear does now

#

Maybe with a little more thought

#

I think it would be pretty good

#

And maybe add some kind of way to acquire tertiary stats like the way you can get gem sockets

#

So you can really juice up your raiding, m+ or pvp gear

ebon geyser
#

I'm happy world content will give heroic vault

#

11.0 needs to hurry

lusty tiger
#

Yea it’s not a bad idea

#

Esp for people who don’t have groups to play with

ebon geyser
#

I also hate m+... But have to do it

lusty tiger
#

I love m+ with friends

warm plinth
#

Why do you have to do it

lusty tiger
#

I hate wiping 100+ times on mythic bosses

ebon geyser
#

Same reason jakey said

warm plinth
#

My friend got 446 ilevel with just raiding

lusty tiger
#

Well it takes much longer to do that

#

As well as more luck

ebon geyser
#

Usually best trinkets and rings are from m+

lusty tiger
#

And also a good raid

#

That is clearing mythic

#

Best trinkets are from raid???

warm plinth
#

Usually best trinkets are from m+, what???

lusty tiger
#

Best rings are crafted

ebon geyser
#

This tier trinkets yes came from raid

#

I'm talking previously

warm plinth
#

Every tier the trinkets come from raid

lusty tiger
#

Previous expansions?

sick sentinel
#

Did they change boss 3 shell trinket for tank in tide

strong forum
#

the last time the best trinkets came from m+ was never

#

literally not once were undisputably the best trinkets both from m+

lusty tiger
#

Grieftorch, boon, OWS, rdm, font????

sick sentinel
#

he didnt get bacon

#

it didnt drop

lusty tiger
#

Sheet they’re already done?

sick sentinel
#

they just kille xperiments

#

only a heroic raid tho

jagged pier
#

yogi showing his knowldge of the raid

sick sentinel
#

hes on rashok 60%

#

1 shot all bosses so far

#

like, not much to comment on

jagged pier
#

ye bacon comes from sarc

#

not experiments

sick sentinel
#

bacon is final boss?

strong forum
#

yes

jagged pier
#

yes

pallid quiver
#

"bacon"
Damn, I should have been calling it that the entire time

sick sentinel
#

oh

#

no, im think about a nvil srry

warm plinth
#

Luerce living under a rock

sick sentinel
#

cuz thats also basically bis for him

strong forum
#

its been called bacon since may

sick sentinel
#

and that also didnt drop

jagged pier
#

^

pallid quiver
#

I really wad living under a rock this whole patch

strong forum
#

crazy to think this tier opened in may

jagged pier
#

dead game

#

now blizcon happened ppl hyped again

lusty tiger
#

Hah Overwatch was fun on Friday with the new tank

strong forum
#

overwatch and fun in the same sentence

#

heresy

lusty tiger
#

Literally just tf2 heavy

warm plinth
#

Your mom is a dead game

#

Gottem

lusty tiger
#

Well I only play w friends

#

Solo Overwatch is for the birb peoples

pallid quiver
#

It's kinda nice seeing some of the casual player base hyped up again, though. I helped out with a learning party in DotI yesterday since I had nothing better to do. When we eventually cleared it, one guy absolutely lost his mind over it and he was so excited it was like he got world first.

Love to see things like that, ngl, even though that whole thing was tuesday to me

lusty tiger
#

That is a sad gamer career getting hyped over finishing doti

pallid quiver
#

I mean, not really, though. That is their end game content, and they're learning. Like, it's not like he's going into class discords and shouting at people that they're wrong or anything. He was just olaying because Dracthyr cool and he wanted the title from clearing the dungeon before next patch

#

I really don't think there's any real difference between him clearing that and your average guild clearing Mythic; it's just a culmination of their personal goals

warm plinth
#

Someone getting excited about something is never sad.

toxic pewter
#

ngl im too lazy to read all that

median tulip
#

I understand what you mean though

toxic pewter
#

how much did you charge that individual

#

for the boost

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
#

So my baconless self is not that this season

median tulip
#

I've been tanking +3s and so on for randoms

#

bunch of 402 ilvl guys trying to find a tank and suddenly there's a 447 warrior turns up

#

makes me happy

pallid quiver
#

Legitimately, gettng that guy his title is the achievement I'm the most proud of this entire patch

strong forum
pallid quiver
strong forum
#

like the last time i was legit happy about an accomplishment was getting on lilith statue

#

and before that

#

critcake prolly pwar magetower appearance super early on in legion

jagged pier
#

^

pallid quiver
#

Like damn, my 425 Alt Prot War for Alliance, who doesn't even have a decent offensive trink, is getting like 80% percentile overall, not ilvl percent

strong forum
#

actually no

#

it was 5tank keys

jagged pier
strong forum
#

they were proper fun

#

peak wow enjoyment right there

sick sentinel
#

asmon on neltharion now

strong forum
#

on the first boss you can fuck up

#

pog

sick sentinel
#

few ppl died on zskarn

strong forum
#

is it atleast heroic

sick sentinel
#

eys

#

he wont do mythic becuase........ XYZ

#

he died again to fire on nelth

strong forum
#

well he is correct tho

#

wasnt his fault that he died cuz he didnt know

sick sentinel
#

thats the boss i wiped LFR to on my DK :S

strong forum
#

cant blame someone for not knowing

jagged pier
#

do we really need a play by play of asmons raid in here?

strong forum
#

no

sick sentinel
#

i didnt understand how it worked, rest of the fights i could just taunt swap and deathstrike

teal swift
#

Can we ban asmon talk

#

:pepehand:

#

His name has a slur in jt

#

Ban It like dm disc

strong forum
blazing condor
#

deadmines discord pog

teal swift
strong forum
teal swift
#

:Yuzu:

blazing condor
#

L

dusty ruin
#

What default stats are yall grabbing with your embellishments? Haste /vers? Obviously this will change once s3 gearing starts just out of curiousity

lusty grotto
jagged gust
#

Haste and then whatever the sim says is correct

lusty grotto
#

yea pretty much

#

haste crit most likely

jagged gust
#

Actually even haste starts simming poorly at a certain point, but I like my speed

dusty ruin
#

Sick, thanks!

daring marlin
blazing condor
#

come on now

#

lets be serious

jagged gust
#

Deconstructed Mayonnaise

#

Goddamn foodies thinking taking food apart makes them better than us

blazing condor
#

egg

cerulean tusk
#

Asmon tanking?

jagged gust
#

If looks had a smell Asmon would be a Magic the Gathering convention

sick sentinel
#

he literally has blood on the wall but okay

#

yeah, i wont go on and on but hes done basically everything right besides no primary stat gem

blazing condor
#

Do we have an updates list of consumables for next patch?

#

Or is it just sames

strong forum
#

new health pot

#

rest is the same

daring marlin
dusky canopy
#

Asmon casually doing a 25

#

xD

lusty tiger
strong forum
#

theres 2 new ones

#

1 that heals like 300k insta and then leaves a dot on you

#

1 that heals 100k insta and then hots for another 100 or 200k over time

dusky canopy
#

hot pot op

#

why do i have two asscandy appearances? lol

#

i looted the heroic one and I somehow have two

strong forum
#

whichever asskandy you unlock, you get 2 versions if you fully upgrade it

dusky canopy
#

ohhh sick so making it 441 gave me Mythic* appearance

#

duh

strong forum
#

LFR gives you LFR + Normal
Normal -> normal + HC
heroic -> HC + Mythic

#

441 is mythic

dusky canopy
#

thanks nome for being my brain 🙂

sick sentinel
#

💀 he's going prot for a key

#

dear god

#

415 shield

cerulean tusk
#

Asmon doing 24s, with 415 shield - yet ppl cry that warrior cant do a 16

sick sentinel
#

in defensive stance

cerulean tusk
#

thank you asmon, for this ammo

dusky canopy
#

it cracks me up that people think hes actually bad at the game

cerulean tusk
#

Asmon, freaking open his char pannel, to use his trinky - this is gold prot gameplay

lusty tiger
#

asmon is doing well

jagged gust
cerulean tusk
#

Asmon doin' real well, he just handlin' it

sick sentinel
#

i wont lie, i put it on whenever im scared now in a key

#

heavy damage bossses

#

just, oh, 20% less dmg to everything till i turn it off agin, yes plz

lusty tiger
#

why were people shitting on az earlier?

#

hes pretty good for a washed up grandpa

dusky canopy
#

how to time 24s as prot warrior, press shield block

lusty tiger
#

there isnt even an aug

cerulean tusk
#

Hey, at least the forum boys going to be quiet for a while. I am glad

lusty tiger
#

yo he just perfectly leaped the puke

strong forum
#

Don't need to leap it

lusty tiger
#

sr?

strong forum
#

No just run

#

Lol

#

Just walking away from it is enough

lusty tiger
#

wtb banner ms

sick sentinel
#

hes not doing terrible

strong forum
#

But he's doing better than most players, which isnt hard

cerulean tusk
#

Doing better than Critcakes movement :v

strong forum
#

THAT I seriously doubt lol

cerulean tusk
strong forum
#

Like crit is playing better than 99% of tanks already

limpid tide
#

zero IP tilt must avert eyes

cerulean tusk
#

I spot IP

sick sentinel
#

im not sure if i see alot of shield block up there

#

i know i see it sometimes

cerulean tusk
#

Most humble prot warrior PoV, that is for sure

jagged gust
#

Shield Block being up just means your healer will be at 90% mana instead of 50%

limpid tide
#

I mean that's fair, he playing at a level that will get the win b/c he's being instructed and that's good enough 🤟

sick sentinel
#

he also has dorki

#

that probably helps

#

yeah, hes playing some jank build too with 2 SW charges

jagged gust
#

You can breeze through a 20 or struggle in a 16, all depends on the other 4

lusty grotto
#

its a UR

#

how are you guys really amazed lol

limpid tide
#

I saw the very start of this key, I saw a 24 and then he was talking about not knowing what to pull and solo pulling first maggot asking if he should pull more, so I def thought he was just trolling at first 🤣 so respect for just jumping in to do it

sick sentinel
#

i still hate underrot

#

that place is the worst

jagged gust
#

Based yogi take

lusty grotto
#

nothing hurts in ur if you have kicks, and with dorki those kicks wont need to happen

cerulean tusk
#

I am sure all 5 do their jobs, teamwork makes the dreamwork and all that

lusty grotto
#

of course

jagged gust
#

Yeah, the typical UR pug goes more like "Kicks are bad for my dps, ticks are everyone elses job, the tank should just eat 50% of the shrooms and we should all stand in a circle around the last boss"

cerulean tusk
#

Asmon strongest prot warr, confirmed :^)

pale karma
#

Is shadowflame tempered patch still the go to embelishment in 10.2?

lusty grotto
pale karma
#

Thankyou

jagged gust
#

unless you plan on off speccing to arms

pale karma
#

I split prot/fury

jagged gust
#

It's kind of nice that crafted armor is worse, makes off spec embellishes far easier to get

pale karma
#

I run frostfire belt belt atm, have room for one more between the vers wrist, sporecloak, and shadowflame.

#

Suppose ilevel gain is irrelevant atm

jagged gust
#

Sporecloak is looking like the go to for dps

#

I think it's spore/wrist for arms, not 100 on fury

pale karma
#

what about prot?

lusty grotto
pale karma
#

I've got the post open but it's not spec-specific. 😅 So guidance is the same prot/fury/arms?

dusty ruin
#

Does prot typically os to arms?

pale karma
jagged gust
#

Yeah, same stat priorities

lusty grotto
#

yea same stats kind of

pale karma
#

Ok, thanks!

jagged gust
#

Fury can offspec to arms, but doesn't translate well to prot

#

But more than a few of us still do because stats aren't the boss of me

strong forum
#

They all translate well

#

Cuz we all want haste

#

That's all that slightly matters

pale karma
#

Fury wants mastery.

strong forum
#

Sure but fury still wants haste to a degree

#

It's not like fury runs 100/0/0/0

pale karma
#

if I swap out a haste trinket for mastery it cna be a 7% increase to damage while enraged in a single item.

strong forum
#

You're missing the point

#

The point is that prot wants haste

#

Both arms and fury want haste as their 2nd stat

pale karma
#

Ah yep. I hear ya.

jagged gust
#

yep

torn gulch
#

i was actually pretty surprised by how well asmon did in those dungeons especially in neltharus where he had 0 clue what happened

#

tanking 24's is done by probably top 1% m+ tanks at most ( in his region )

strong forum
#

well yeah

#

asmon isnt terrible at wow, he used to be a high end raider + guild master

#

(also helps that pwar is really really easy to play and having 4k rio people play with you)

torn gulch
#

on another subject that new sulfuron trinket is so lit next patch

#

i want it bad

strong forum
#

sulfuron?

#

the big stat proc thingy?

torn gulch
#

wait what's the name of the boss again

knotty vortex
#

Smolderon

torn gulch
#

yes that one

#

my brain is frozen in molten core

#

Catacylsmic Signet Brand this is the trinket

strong forum
#

ah yaeh

#

its by far the best trinket next season so yeh

#

GL getting it

#

pretty much everybody wants it

torn gulch
#

which means it will prob get nerfed

strong forum
#

(technically its bis on tanks over others)

torn gulch
#

if it is that good

strong forum
#

it has its drawbacks

#

a) short fights

#

b) dropping stacks

#

if your guild is smart

#

and maximising raid dmg output

#

tanks should get it first

torn gulch
#

we have dungeon event+timewalking back to back 2nd and 3rd week of the season

#

2 extra chances

#

at it

strong forum
#

🙏

#

lotsa good trinkets from raid

torn gulch
#

yea i want that, the rageheart and some more

strong forum
#

oh shit

#

you cant loot signet brand as tank loot

#

that... sucks

#

so you gotta gamble those caches

torn gulch
#

is there anything else at smolderon we need?

#

we just set it as arms

#

or fury

strong forum
#

you want the tank trinket from fyrakk

#

and the 1h weapon from fyrakk

torn gulch
#

then i will leave smolderon on arms

#

yea smolderon literally has nothing that needs prot lootspec

strong forum
#

you go prot on first boss (to get shield)
fury on volcoross
prot on council
prot on nymue
dps on smolderon
prot on fyrakk

#

evey boss that isnt mentioned lootspec doesnt matter

torn gulch
#

you go prot on first boss to get shield then when you get shield you go arms to get strong companion weapon for lego on fury

strong forum
#

eww

#

fury

torn gulch
#

i want to try with my guild first mythic boss towards the end of week 1

#

looks pretty simple

strong forum
#

should be doable

torn gulch
#

the only difference to heroic is extra big adds that need intrerrupted and controlled

#

if i am not mistaken

strong forum
#

idk i havent looked at any mechanics or bosses

torn gulch
#

i think this tier we'll be able to do 3 mythic bosses on pugs

#

from a rough look

strong forum
#

yeah thats my estimate aswell

torn gulch
#

tree igira and volcoross

#

last time i raided was nya'lotha so it will be strange raiding again

grim pilot
#

Pugs will probably stop at 2 or 4 for vault

torn gulch
#

vault is 3 for first slot i think

#

this season

grim pilot
#

2

torn gulch
#

oh really?

grim pilot
#

ye

torn gulch
#

i saw wrong then

#

my bad

lusty grotto
#

3 for first one yes

grim pilot
#

well currently yes

lusty grotto
#

3 5 7

grim pilot
#

but in s3 it's gonna be 2 4 6

torn gulch
grim pilot
#

I thought u meant for s3 since u mentioned new raid before

lusty grotto
#

3 for first, 5 for 2nd, 7 for third

torn gulch
#

yes for new raid

lusty grotto
#

thats current

#

s3 is different

torn gulch
#

oh right

lusty grotto
#

different total of bosses

torn gulch
#

s3 is 2 4 6?

lusty grotto
#

probably

torn gulch
#

2,4,7

lusty grotto
#

9 bosses total

torn gulch
lusty grotto
#

in amirdrassil

#

thats fine

#

s1 was what

#

1 3 5 or something

grim pilot
#

2 4 [...]

lusty grotto
#

s1 was 1 3 5

grim pilot
#

nah not 1

#

everyone pugged first 2 to get icon in vault

torn gulch
#

oh yeah then i need to strive for 2 mythic boss kills a week

#

in pugs

lusty grotto
#

because the 2nd boss is what drops icon

#

thats why

grim pilot
#

U still needed 2 bosses

#

I am 99.9% sure

lusty grotto
#

pretty sure it was one

#

i have mythic eranog ring and icon so

#

lets just say i did that

grim pilot
#

there

#

ye s1 was my first season and I just started "raiding", so 2/8m was the only thing I did in raid

lusty grotto
#

🤷

strong forum
#

arent they upping required bosses

#

to 3?

#

wait

#

isnt it 3 already?

#

3 5 7?

#

ah shouldve scrolled up

#

and yeah it was 2 bosses in s1, cuz everybody and their mom pugged first 2 cuz they were literal heroic bosses

grim pilot
#

still is like that, except nothing universally bis drops from first 3

strong forum
#

anvil

#

its also the fact that most people pug 5 mythic bosses at this point

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with experiments being the hardest one

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so maybe only pug 4

sick sentinel
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Hey gang. Does anyone know if the M+ key degrade will be the same as last season (11?). Or did it increase to 13?

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Might be hallucinating

strong forum
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no word on that

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also it was 9 levels last season, i think

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but it should be considerably high

toxic pewter
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what the even mean key degrade

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like how difficult a keylevel is vs previous season

strong forum
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no

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doing a +29 key in s2

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and getting a +20 key from vault on day1 of s3

toxic pewter
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ohhh right got it

strong forum
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it was like 9 keylevel from s1 to s2, cuz blizz didnt want people farming 20s instantly (which we did anyway just like a handful of hours later)