protection

[strong forum]

nop

fyrakk is 10k++ dps in keys

[signal sequoia]

ward had twice the cd and didnt really have a damage bonus at all

[strong forum]

• 800k absorb on 1.5min CD

[strong forum]

yeah but you still gained mainstat from it

so it was more dmg than whatever leaf gives you

650 permanent mainstat > 1.2k vers for 15sec

[blazing condor]

whats the best timeline to level in now

[strong forum]

whatever timewalking queue is open

[blazing condor]

only level 35

[strong forum]

F

then prolly still WoD

bonus objectives opop

[signal sequoia]

hmmge ok

[strong forum]

like its not illegal to run that trinket

but like

[signal sequoia]

nah it see what youre saying

[strong forum]

trinkets are even more powerful next tier than they are this time around

[signal sequoia]

i didnt realize how cracked fyrakks was

[strong forum]

its just sad that fyrakk is vers

[signal sequoia]

and didnt think about it having mast vs main stat

[strong forum]

instead of mainstat

it was mainstat before they kinda reworked the trinket

but then they nerfed it to vers cuz probably someone went "well tanks want vers right?"

[orchid mural]

😄

[strong forum]

the biggest downfall for trinkets as tank is having a trinket not be mainstat

[blazing condor]

give me that stamina trinket

[strong forum]

cuz by not having mainstat on a trinket thats an AUTOMATIC -3% raw overall dmg and -7% "surv" lost

[bleak breach]

Imagine if beacon was strength

Would still be bis at end of this tier if you had mythic version

[strong forum]

so for a non-mainstat trinket to be GOOD

it needs to do minimum 3% dmg + whatever effect the trinket did

so in the event of beacon, doing in keys (lets assume) ~8% overall

a str trinket only needs to 5% dmg from its effect

to be better or equal to beacon

same goes for fyrakk trinket and augury

they look REALLY large on PTR dmg meters

but you gotta substract ~3% of their overall dmg done when you compare it to mainstat trinkets

if you wanna napkin math it

[strong forum]

nah, next tiers trinkets are insanely powerful

unless ofc you are critting all your beacons 😄

[signal sequoia]

its actually not on tank loot table i dont think

[strong forum]

its healer loot table

leaf that is

fyrakk trinket is on tank

[lusty grotto]

the og trinket had a vers proc

lol

of that one that got buffed

my'das also got buffed lmaooooo

[strong forum]

well mydas is still ass

even after buff

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[signal sequoia]

oh but the idea being the healer puts it on the tank too sure

[lusty grotto]

its an additional external yea

they will use it the same way they did with echo trinket

[signal sequoia]

mydas is apparently not that bad for specs that have a good amount of crit/verse

[toxic pewter]

who gonna watch blizzcon tomorrow

🙋

[lusty grotto]

my'das got buffed in bfa

and it was STILL ass

[strong forum]

im only gonna watch the stuff where andy is on

[toxic pewter]

ohhh right that m+ event thing

[lusty grotto]

so this buff makes no difference either

[toxic pewter]

tell him play prot warr unironically 😄

[signal sequoia]

our dh was doing sims on mimiron after they put the buffs and he said that it was 3rd bis but the 2nd one has a cringe minigame with it so they might actually play it

[lusty grotto]

its ilvl capped

100% only there because of main stat

[signal sequoia]

what do you mean its ilvl capped

[lusty grotto]

489 ilvl

thats ilvl cap

[strong forum]

branch simming that high

for just mastery

[lusty grotto]

from the vault

[strong forum]

[jagged pier]

[lusty grotto]

mastery?

[strong forum]

okay its 6k mastery fully stacked

nani daheck

[lusty grotto]

oooo

wait so is his simmed my'das vault capped or not?

[strong forum]

and it prolly refreshes the duration

489 is max vault

[lusty grotto]

i assume it is

[strong forum]

483 is end of dungeon max upgraded

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats what i mean

i was just assuming he was simming vault ilvl trinkets

so i asked just in case

[signal sequoia]

yeah

but hes simming all the dungeon trinkets at that ilvl

[lusty grotto]

🤷

well good luck to him to target those out of the vault piñata

[strong forum]

483 is still good enough to be used, same as heroic raid trinkets

6ilvl is like 10% trinket performance

actually bit more

like 17%

[lusty grotto]

yeah agreed

[strong forum]

cuz 40ilvl is usually double for trinkets

[lusty grotto]

just saying if he gets a higher ilvl that sim will change

which is obvious

[signal sequoia]

the sim is for the wowhead bislist

but the point is that its basically tied for the best dungeon trinket

[lusty grotto]

its weird though cause he has signet in it

[signal sequoia]

why is that weird

[lusty grotto]

its not a dungeon trinket

[strong forum]

what ma meant, is that the best 2 dungeon trinkets are tied

[signal sequoia]

he is simming all of the trinkets at the highest level that theyre available at because wowhead wants him to give them the "bis items"

[lusty grotto]

ah i see

[signal sequoia]

you can look at the results of just dungeon trinkets in that sim though and compare them by themselves

and presumably the ranking between the dungeon trinkets would be the same if theyre all 6 ilvls lower

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[bleak breach]

I didn’t realise sims were working for 10.2 stuff already

[signal sequoia]

theyre not really

[lusty grotto]

either way this is an HDH sim

[bleak breach]

Gives me something to do for my weekend

[signal sequoia]

you need to be very savvy

[lusty grotto]

i assume HDH APl is up and running?

kind of excited

fuck momentum

i got my DH up last week to 70

[strong forum]

no mover build is only 3% worse than full mover

and thats assuming perfect play

so in reality

no mover build is better for the majority of players

[lusty grotto]

well i'd still play momentum

[strong forum]

i love momentum

so id play it aswell

[lusty grotto]

not in live though

🙂

10.2 sure

[strong forum]

but 3% assuming PERFECT play

and hardly anybody plays momentum perfect

[warm plinth]

I do not and will not ever understand how people like fel rush as part of the rotation.

[strong forum]

skill expression

thats why

[signal sequoia]

im pretty sure you need to feed mimiron a custom APL

[lusty grotto]

i mean current momentum in VP 1st boss is fucking ridiculous

especially on storming

[strong forum]

storming is just illegal

[lusty grotto]

now imagine manifested timeways

without the 10.2 changes

[signal sequoia]

also im sorry for bringing up DH i just wanted to say that mydas isnt completely terrible now

[strong forum]

i really hope they remove storming and sanguine in 11.0

its the 2 mega dogshit affixes left

[signal sequoia]

😦

[lusty grotto]

bullet hell? more like Swiss Cheese DH

[signal sequoia]

are emotes from outside skyhold disabled?

[lusty grotto]

yes

since the inception of the discord basically heh

[bleak breach]

[strong forum]

skyhold is anti fun regarding emotes

[lusty grotto]

its ok we have

[signal sequoia]

that is

[warm plinth]

So many people outside of skyhold love both of those

[signal sequoia]

cringe

[toxic pewter]

i hope at blizzcon they play all the tanks or even all specs tbh

it would be fun to see some variety

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/big-oof-size-small-medium-switch-gif-17355313

[strong forum]

i wish i could use bearmotes here

but alas

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1166809459901878363.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[toxic pewter]

i dunno this place has some great emotes

like this one alone is s tier

[warm plinth]

It does yeah

[lusty grotto]

cant beat the default 👢 🍵 👏

[warm plinth]

Let's not forget

[lusty grotto]

trueee

[warm plinth]

And

[strong forum]

should be more abused thats true

[warm plinth]

It needs an update resolution wise though

[lusty grotto]

also the classic literal garbage, i hope it changes next season

[wind oak]

[warm plinth]

I want it to be changed back to literal garbage

Literally trash doesn't have the same ring to it

[strong forum]

gna need to figure out what the literal garbage is next season

[toxic pewter]

wat is in reference to

[strong forum]

the name or the icon

[toxic pewter]

i guess both lol

[strong forum]

skyhold admin

[toxic pewter]

ah

[strong forum]

before vel took over

[toxic pewter]

where marok go

[strong forum]

army

[toxic pewter]

oh interesting

[strong forum]

also renamed to genshii

[grim pilot]

btw @strong forum can u review that

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/J42TgNFkfW9acCdG#fight=last&type=damage-done

purely damage wise, I'm +/- aware what I'm doing wrong on the defensive part

[strong forum]

could slightly optimise outburst usage on SS but rate is generally fine

besides that looks alot better than your old logs

maybe 1 or 2 more beacon casts

[uneven mason]

Y'all talking emoji without hitting the best one

[rich solar]

okay stupid question im kinda new to prot

does demoralizing shout generate high threat

[strong forum]

no

only dealing dmg generates threat

the only individual abilities that generate "high threat" aka have a built in threat modifier ontop of them

[urban portal]

its just the throws right

[strong forum]

are abilities like heroic throw and throw glaive (for vdh) that do +400% threat with the dmg they deal

but since throw glaive does fuckall dmg

it still doesnt generate "good" threat

cuz buffing 0 by 400% is still 0

which alot of VDHs think is "bugged" that VDH doesnt generate alot of threat on pull with abilities like Immo Aura or Throw Glaive

when the truth is just that they deal too little dmg to generate relevant amounts of threat

[dull sleet]

Yeah always lost threat when I played my vdh

If someone used CDs before my first spirit bomb it was over

[uneven mason]

Ironically vdh is one of the highest damage tanks

[dull sleet]

But not on pull

[uneven mason]

Not on pull

[strong forum]

vdh sucks at gathering mobs

[dull sleet]

Takes 3-5 globals to get it rolling

Yeah that's what destroyed the fun in vdh for me

[strong forum]

vdh doesnt have spammable aoe attacks when moving

you cant use SoF to pull

[dull sleet]

Every pull with pugs was messy as hell

[strong forum]

immo aura does nothing

throw glaive does nothing

infernal strike gets you killed

Elysian Decree unironically your best ability to pull

[uneven mason]

Plz punch in back

[strong forum]

dh needs rogue next patch to gather mobs quickly

without getting DPS killed

[rich solar]

thxx

[toxic pewter]

ngl I think I find vdh jumping in and immediately dying the funniest thing in wow

[uneven mason]

Or hunter if they weren't deleted

[strong forum]

well yeah but hunter aint looking meta

like youll prolly get like 10 rogues per hunter

next season

[toxic pewter]

we about to see insane amount of rogues

[jagged gust]

So currently it looks like there's both a viable phys and caster comp given how good druid, rogue and shaman is looking

[strong forum]

enha rogue aug is looking like a disgusting comp

[toxic pewter]

ele shaman most fun spec in 10.2, all of you guys should try it

[uneven mason]

Hdh rogue feral

3 gross melee

[strong forum]

forgetting enha

[uneven mason]

Pwar might endup meta

[toxic pewter]

na

[jagged gust]

Wouldn't prot war look better in the phys group then vdh in the spell one?

[toxic pewter]

5 legendary is meta

[uneven mason]

Bshout and mw heals

[strong forum]

overall could be william, but VDH with 2x sigils is a bit too powerful

[pallid quiver]

But Enha got pulled out back smh

I love watching people seriously say that for like the past month; it's been hilarious

[strong forum]

MW doesnt have CR

so cant play MW

[toxic pewter]

yeah the 2x sigils is unironically imbalanced lmao

what world is that appropriate when you compare it with disrupting shout for example

[jagged gust]

With how good surv hunters are I'm sad they're still not gonna see much meta play

[urban portal]

they coudl

[urban portal]

tank buffs dont matter

you pick the tank that does the most damage or can pull the biggest

[strong forum]

they do matter if theres not a big difference between dmg/surv of tanks

[urban portal]

right

but tank debuff is essentially just DPS

you can quantify it

[strong forum]

oh yeah absolutely

like VDH buff in 10.2 is roughly worth like 30k dps in m+

get ready for new name in 10.2 btw

[urban portal]

like how we didnt play vdh in excodia with all magic damage

bear was just better

[strong forum]

cuz it also provided mark

which in itself was like 20k dps

and allowed bigger pulls + had better CC

if you played VDH instead of bear, youd have played Boomkin instead of Mage

and still have buff matrix going

and if aug didnt exist

you'd have played boomkin instead of aug

[lusty grotto]

the more i think about the buff matrix the more it feels like ass and i dont think it should be tied to class identity at all

as if putting a buff on the group for 1 hr or a debuff on mobs scream class identity

it really doesnt

things like MD, shroud, soothe, sure

a dumb buff on the group? nah

[strong forum]

the 1 upside of buff matrix is, even if your class isnt performing that well you still contribute to the success of your raid

but the checkboxes it raises for most

is also just cringe

[lusty grotto]

yeah

[urban portal]

its diversity quota

thats it

we have those in america IRL

[lusty grotto]

cringe

that comment

as an NA player

[lusty tiger]

i have been really wanting to get around to trying out ele

[lusty grotto]

ele is 💩

in 10.2

sadly

[sick sentinel]

did anyone else see a price drop on d4 today

came as a notification on my battle net

[hardy snow]

nope, still 70€ for standard edition

[sick sentinel]

oh weird wtf i think it went back up

[sick sentinel]

then i also get this one :S i don't understand

thats like a 40-45% sale,

like, i dont know if that deal is only good for rest of today, or its cuz i was playing a bunch of d2r or cuz i bought d3 at some point.... who knows...

i might get it

[strong forum]

just watch some gameplay/streams when s3 launches see if you like how it plays if youre not certain

s3 launches 24th january

[sick sentinel]

it'd be nice to know the details of why i got it or how long it lasts for!

thats my criticism with rng deal

im hoping it lasts a while got some emails earlier but my main windows email program is screwy

so, maybe there is an email explaining it

[daring marlin]

that like monopoly money

[sick sentinel]

till 14th

[daring marlin]

is canada a real place

[lusty grotto]

idk seems like regular price to me

[sick sentinel]

note cad

is what is homeboy

[lusty grotto]

yes

its 70 bucks like it was in release

in US

so yeah no 25% is being applied there

[sick sentinel]

i dunno wtf i did to trigger getting the offer

[lusty grotto]

nothing, cause i have it

its right there in the screenshot

oh

it was only up to Nov 1st

so that offer is not available anymore

[lusty tiger]

cad not real

[daring marlin]

go on yogi

give papa blizz your money

IS OKAY

[lusty tiger]

@daring marlin is canadian

[lusty grotto]

yogi if you put your mouse over the offer

it'll say

[daring marlin]

how dare you

A.) I don't care about Hockey

[lusty grotto]

Last chance: Save up to 25% when you purchase Diablo IV now through November 1

[daring marlin]

B.) I wouldn't burn down a city because my hockey team lost

C'MON MAN

[lusty tiger]

canada is sleepy USA

[sick sentinel]

)it says the deal is only for me

[orchid mural]

not all canadians like hockey

[novel temple]

Oh yeah, I know it doesn’t make a difference with it being so close to the patch. But can I safely drop HR for ITF with 2/4p and bolster?

[urban portal]

yea

[novel temple]

I figured but I never kept track

I’ve just been using hr cause I get scurred

[lusty grotto]

youre very gullible

see my name there?

see the offer?

it doesnt matter though cause the offer ended yesterday

[daring marlin]

nim it's ONLY for yogi

C'MON MAN

[strong forum]

It was me

I gave him the discount

I am John blizzard

[lusty grotto]

[daring marlin]

I hate you

That shouldn't have been that funny

[toxic pewter]

Dude it’s so fun I’m unironically considering maining it or at least having an important alt for once in a long time

[daring marlin]

apb gonna be the simp commander warrior spec

[toxic pewter]

Can’t

It’s not in my dna

I’m a leader not a simper

[daring marlin]

11.0 warrior support

you got this bud

lead from behind

[toxic pewter]

I am anti support

Been saying it since the start

[daring marlin]

you will be converted

[toxic pewter]

This is me when I remember life before support spec

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mcmahon-sad-nostalgia-gif-17540086145397943374

[daring marlin]

but apb

You'll have all the flavors of banners

skull banner

Conq banner

all of them

[toxic pewter]

I won’t play support until they actually implement the official role

This quasi im a dps thing they’re doing is awkward

I was the first to say the actual role needed to exist months ago

[daring marlin]

apb first support warrior

leading a rebellion

[lusty grotto]

never play other mmos apb

[toxic pewter]

I mean I guess if I’m the leader

I am a natural leader in anything I do

[daring marlin]

What a guy

[toxic pewter]

I mean I dunno how it happens

[lusty grotto]

guess who da support

[daring marlin]

NIMCHIP

I AM LOST

I NEED SEASON 4 NOW

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-mc-mahon-durag-mr-mc-mahon-thumbs-up-approve-gif-22277368

[lusty grotto]

i am SAM carrying this group

its my static

[daring marlin]

Only silver lining is Invincible released today

[lusty grotto]

gotta watch it

been waiting for invincible too

[daring marlin]

It's shirt

short*

Like 34 mins

mfs

[lusty grotto]

all i know is that i saw last week's twist coming from a mile away

[daring marlin]

unfortunately

[lusty grotto]

but im not disappointed about it

[waxen orbit]

WHY

IS THE FUCKING

PROG PULL

[daring marlin]

I LOVE INDIRA

[waxen orbit]

WITH BEACON CRIT

[toxic pewter]

If you guys haven’t watched new South Park special yet be sure to watch it

[waxen orbit]

NEVER THE KILL PULL

I'M REALLY DOING IT THIS TIME BRO

[toxic pewter]

Wat

[lusty grotto]

i honestly thought she was in cahoots with butcher or something though

[daring marlin]

Did

[waxen orbit]

The Nelth kill pull

[daring marlin]

Hilarious

[waxen orbit]

Parsed 83

Actually lobotomize me

[toxic pewter]

I watched it three times lol

[waxen orbit]

17 point diff

[toxic pewter]

It’s actually pretty good social commentary

[lusty tiger]

banner support would be cool

[daring marlin]

Normally is

[toxic pewter]

Yep

[daring marlin]

South Park owns

[toxic pewter]

Yeah it does

I think I will play support warr

Unironically

Sounds fun

[daring marlin]

Knew it

[toxic pewter]

But I’ll prob be playin shaman tank more

[novel temple]

Did something get leaked about more support roles and shamans tanking?

[lusty grotto]

only to apb

[novel temple]

Lol

[lusty grotto]

John Blizzard told him

[toxic pewter]

[toxic pewter]

#protection message

[jagged gust]

But honestly augment warrior sounds like a lot of fun, we'd be like bards, if bards were also drill instructors

[toxic pewter]

I stand behind my predictions I have done a lot of research and I found this to be most believable

[daring marlin]

Makes sense to me.

Like zDPS barb in D3.

[toxic pewter]

What is zdps

[daring marlin]

zero dps

[jagged gust]

zero dps

[toxic pewter]

Oh

[waxen frigate]

Zoinks Dps

[toxic pewter]

I stopped playing Diablo 3

[daring marlin]

all about buffing, debuffing, cc

[jagged gust]

you just used shouts and stuff to buff the party then a witch doctor cleared the map for you

[toxic pewter]

Yah support warrior unironically makes sense

[jagged gust]

Call the spec Commander or something

[waxen frigate]

You fushsbe eneneskoso kdkdieiskamwnwksk?

€

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[jagged gust]

I feel like you're talking to me in ojibwe

[toxic pewter]

I also have been a bit hesitant to say this but….

[jagged gust]

That's some Leslie Nielsen level comedy right there

[waxen frigate]

Jamananakake

[cinder nova]

ZERO HOUR CEEEEEE

[lusty tiger]

???

[cinder nova]

I'm not even mad that I got it last week of the patch

I'd rather have it than not

[waxen frigate]

What

[lusty tiger]

D:

[waxen frigate]

Hey

[lusty tiger]

hi

[lusty grotto]

Yo @daring marlin im so fucking confused

Messy finale

I feel like it was stupid or I'm gaslighting myself into hoping it's genius

[jagged gust]

You just finished Game of Thrones?

[teal swift]

I dropped got

After that dude died

In like season 1

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

Not even close

Also as far as GoT goes, I'm a book reader so a lot of the show doesn't exist

[toxic pewter]

I have been stuck on a feast for crows for like a decade lmao

I watched the show and it sort of made me not want to finish the book and haven't gotten around back to it

I still unironically think they should hire George RR Martin to reboot wow lore

[lucid dew]

When do guides come out

[toxic pewter]

prob when patch comes out..

november 7

[ionic fern]

Jep, on patch day.

[ionic fern]

You can already ask here, if you have any specific questions. 🙂

[potent gulch]

WHAT Embelishments we run?!

[ionic fern]

Double Shadowflame.

[potent gulch]

Double Power

[cinder nova]

Be lazy and run UFFB/ShF

Like me :^)

[ionic fern]

I also did that for the longest time.

[hollow flower]

Except Rally cry is there any change in the patch?

[jagged pier]

no

[hardy snow]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/news/24020034/updated-nov-1-dragonflight-guardians-of-the-dream-content-update-notes
we also get new pvp talents

[ionic fern]

Also removed INspiring Presence.

[hollow flower]

Yeah counts to rally for me

Its a Skill Point more for raid

[sharp ruin]

rally still be a good external cd , but way weaker than before

[grand veldt]

STAND STRONG BOYS

[opaque quest]

Ill go back to my DK

Cant wait to play Raid without gargoyle

[blazing condor]

the rogue im now leveling is level 35 with full mop gear

gemmed and enchanted

and its like ilvl 38 or something

crazy how low it is

getting like 80 ilvl upgrades from dungeons alone

[opaque quest]

Just take the gear boost from the character login screen

[blazing condor]

yeah i said no to that lol

[restive yarrow]

Hi guys, what do u think will be more suitable tank spec for me, prot warrior or bear druid? Gonna play mainly with pugs, low keys <20

[ionic fern]

Eee.

That's kinda personal preference and i'm super byased.

So, Prot warri.

Reality is that any tank will do sub 20 (and above 20) keys without issues, so it just comes down to what you enjoy playing.

[restive yarrow]

Yee, but i enjoy them similarly, i narrowed my options to those 2

[restive yarrow]

Dont u think one of them is better for pugging than the other?

[ionic fern]

I will always say "warrior".

Because i main a warrior.

🙂

[sick sentinel]

Should I get the d4 on sale or d4 = bad

[teal swift]

@jagged pier What stats does a tank want for 10.2

https://tenor.com/view/troll-troll-face-ragememe-rageface-trolling-gif-4929853

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/whatever-gif-26664810

[bleak breach]

D4 is decent, it’s just Diablo in the end though. Rinse and repeat until you get bored. Come back next season to do slightly more damage and play a different build that got buffed or because your current one got nerfed.

I generally binge play Diablo for a week and then don’t play for like 6 months, really healthy relationship I’ve got with it.

[sick sentinel]

convert to your own local currency

lucky my ass not lazy enough to search and save that img off discord to repost it again alone

i'd not be such snappy if i didn't read comments about hockey and moose and "maplesyrup and monoply money" being our currency

50 bucks is ~37$ US, i'll do that conversion for you at least

[uneven mason]

Monopoly money is at least made from paper

[sick sentinel]

still thats my point lmfao

im trying to make a descision on deal, and its met with a bunch of memes

💀

[uneven mason]

I live in Canada too man, but seriously idk if d4 is worthwhile at that price, it's really less involved than d2

[sick sentinel]

like wtf, i dont understand the ultimate and deluxe editions,

[uneven mason]

But at 49.99 it's half price almost

[sick sentinel]

i dunno, im not a diablo guy for the majority

thats why i don't know and cant make desicisons

[uneven mason]

I played through the story and checked out, it has none of the replayability of d3

[sick sentinel]

on wow, i know most of the things in wow, so i don't have to think if i want to buy a sub or wow token or whatever

i never played diablo 3 either

not in any meaningful capacity

[uneven mason]

So if you enjoyed d2

You might enjoy the story in d4

[sick sentinel]

what i enjoy more than anything in diablo 2

[uneven mason]

But the basic edition

[sick sentinel]

is sitting in log in screen, character screen, lobby screen, in the main camp primarily spawn location

and i like to search for lobbies of free loot if i don't have the loot i need to kill stuff, or just chill in a solo game at the camp till im ready to go killin

[uneven mason]

Uh I mean

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaKprnMSsZI

come vibe with me so to speak

im sorry, but this is legitimately the best VGM of all time, literal hall of fame music, its so good

[teal swift]

Canadian money is made of plastic

It's some weird fucking polymer

First year it was Introduced in 20s

It would stick together in atms

And sometimes spit out extra money, it was fixed pretty quick with how the money stacks were put together.

[sick sentinel]

yes, really

no, im not joking

this is how we do things smaller than 5$ here

its a bunch of bullshit, people like looney, tooney has fans but is mid

[strong forum]

Euro is the same

You got 1ct 2ct 5ct 10ct 50ct 1euro and 2 Euro coins and then 5 Euro Bill and so on

[sick sentinel]

canada its 1 cent (phased out), 5, 10, 25, 50(rare) 1$ 2$ (uncommon)

like, to find a vending machine that takes toonie is semi rare

[nimble skiff]

Wat, I've never seen a 50 cent coin in canada

[inland raft]

Thought they were phasing out the 1 and 2 cent euro? I moved to the us back in 2014 but thought heard about it and assumed by now they had

[pine storm]

We also got animals and shit on our cash 😄

[sick sentinel]

we have those

[lusty tiger]

Yogis rich!

[opaque quest]

Reminds me of South Park

Canadollars

Worth nothing

[sick sentinel]

\

tade you a couple of hash dollars for it

(trailer park boys)

[sweet summit]

wtf is this shit man

i have never seen that before

please say fake

[opaque quest]

Im sure bubbles approves

[lusty tiger]

🤝

Nothing hits like the story arc where Ricky becomes trailer park supervisor

[opaque quest]

Cant believe the dope train didnt work

Such a masterplan

Flawless

[silent vessel]

@sick sentinel

got this today

"ONLY FOR YOU"

"LIMITED OFFER"

[opaque quest]

S O N D E R A N G E B O T

D4 is so good now its a shame its still 40€

[clever patio]

its not good

[cerulean tusk]

Should have released the game in a good state. Perhaps listened to their beta testers. Oh well.
Not worth 40, not worth 30. Not worth the 70 fleece they will force every "expansion". Prob should just be part of the WoW sub.

[lusty grotto]

false, its only for yogi

[opaque quest]

Eh i'd say its worth 40 now. Defo not 70 on release

@strong forum help me here

[nimble skiff]

On big trash pulls I'm assuming it's easy for ignore pain to fall off, cause of all the damage going out, like big chain pulls in nelth for example

Start panicking when I see ignore pain drop off and spam it, I can't find the balance between ignore pain and revenge

[lusty grotto]

there is no balance

they are different abilities

nothing changes

use IP when youre about to cap rage, thats it

[uneven mason]

Don't worry about IP so much

[nimble skiff]

Or am I doing it wrong? I've started to back up more in trash to make sure I'm not tanking it with my back

So don't spam ip is basically it? Even if your stack is at 0?

[lusty grotto]

you dont spam

ever

getting rage starved is a big no

[nimble skiff]

so it's okay if it falls off/ reaches 0 absorb?

[lusty grotto]

yes

IP uptime does not matter at all

[nimble skiff]

God damn okay. That makes me feel better

[lusty grotto]

SB uptime matters, IP uptime doesnt

[nimble skiff]

Last night it was falling off on trash pulls and I was thinking I was doing something wrong

[uneven mason]

Nah, it's a mitigation helper, not our core mit

[nimble skiff]

Which is shield block

[uneven mason]

The only time you put thought into it is when you're taking a big unlockable hit

Or have a dot

[nimble skiff]

I did make a WA to track shield block buff to make sure I keep it rolling and not have it fall off

That helped

[uneven mason]

Since dot are our primary weakness

[nimble skiff]

Couple of instances my HP was a yoyo and I didn't have IP up, I popped shield wall to try and smooth out the damage

I didn't die but it was definite worrisome

[lusty grotto]

log

[uneven mason]

Yeah sw is one of those buttons you use on CD so you can do a bigger pull

Like, we're almost fully preemptive in our kit, so knowledge of damage profiles is a huge thing

[nimble skiff]

It's more trash that I was having issues figuring out

[uneven mason]

Yup

[opaque quest]

Thats normal

Especially in forti weeks

[uneven mason]

Trash generally is more dangerous than bosses for tanks

[lusty grotto]

yes thats what fort weeks are all about

[uneven mason]

Since bosses are completely predictable

It's all scripted, and our kit plays very well into that

Trash has some random elements

[lusty grotto]

with the exception of tyra bosses that bleed

🙂

fuck you crawth

[opaque quest]

So glad i played BDK last season

[uneven mason]

But still predictable, so we can put on some clean depends

[lusty grotto]

of course

[lusty tiger]

I can’t play ptr man

The latency eats like 1/2 of my globals

Makes me feel like a mongo

[sick sentinel]

it must have been shotgunned at a bunch of ppl in certain trigger

all people that own d2r and d3 or are subbed to wow currently

[lusty grotto]

no, not really

[sick sentinel]

this is the email i got

my bnet name isnt a dox far as im concerned

[rigid badge]

Does maybe somebody know some good tank guides for the upcoming raid?

[lusty grotto]

quazii has some videos

and a few other content creators

and we have our spell reflect / blockable sheet

which sense has updated with ptr stuff

not all bosses were on PTR as always so, they remain incomplete until people do them on live

[rigid badge]

Ok so I will check Quazii YT Channel. Thank you 🙂

[sick sentinel]

Point boss away from raid, keep up defensives, don't stand in fire, taunt off at X stacks

Kappa

like, im half meming but its kinda true

[opaque quest]

Not just kinda true lmao

Fully

[nimble skiff]

Okay yeah cause I was starting pulls in dstance then switching to battle after a few mobs are dead cause I felt like I was getting chunked

[lusty grotto]

do you have logs

i never start pulls in dstance lol

the only exceptions are the NL giga pull which i swap halfway through the run, and the ulda giga pull

[nimble skiff]

Really? And no. No logs yet. I wasn't planning on running any m+ last night and it just impromptu happened on the spot

[lusty grotto]

you cant get better without logging

we cant tell you what youre doing wrong

i did x and i did y

that doesnt cut it

[nimble skiff]

I don't want to see how bad I really am is all

[lusty grotto]

seeing how bad you are is the 1st step at improving

theres no improving otherwise

people get better by making mistakes

theres no virtuoso style gamer dna that just lets it happen right off the bat

[nimble skiff]

I'll ask for the copypasta tonight and set myself up to log

Also, running a 13 is a joke after playing with bursting, dear god

I needed some wyrm tokens, figured I'd send it on lower keys

[lusty grotto]

here you go #protection message

how to log by jakey

[nimble skiff]

I'll have to look at it tonight when I'm home.

[sick sentinel]

we gotta see the expansion today

d4 is my secondary purchase

if this trailer is good maybe i'll preorder

[lusty grotto]

maybe dont preorder

[opaque quest]

How about you dont preorder and give actishit a free loan

[lusty grotto]

and give blizzard free money for a product you wont get until release date

[sick sentinel]

depends if the trailer is good or not

[lusty grotto]

doesnt depend on anything

[opaque quest]

Yogi is brainwashed

[lusty grotto]

preordering is stupid

[sick sentinel]

does for me lol

[opaque quest]

Either brainwashed or mentally challenged

[sick sentinel]

i get invested, or i dont

[lusty tiger]

bro br nice to yogi

[lusty grotto]

i know its like swimming against the tide, but i just gotta say it

[lusty tiger]

or ill have to comeover to the land of soft communism

[opaque quest]

Preordering a product that has infinite stock

[sick sentinel]

no, its so that i know i will try it out and play it or not

digital library is superior

you just have it

[lusty grotto]

thats not the argument

at all

[opaque quest]

Its your money. Do whatever you want with it. But ppl that pre order shit based on a trailer are actively ruining the gaming industry

[sick sentinel]

well, im not saying i would preorder becuase of a stock issue

so thats out of context

[opaque quest]

No you pre order because of a flashy trailer

[lusty grotto]

well its a good point

[sick sentinel]

and thats my right to do so isnt it?

[opaque quest]

I wont argue with ppl that pre order games. Its fine. Do w/e

[lusty grotto]

preordering became a thing BECAUSE there was limited stock on physical copies

nothing more

so preordering now effectively does nothing on digital games

youre just giving free money to a company, for nothing at all

[teal swift]

Fact, I used to pre0order, was a $5 downpay ment at Gamestop

[sick sentinel]

pyhsical copies ARE GOOD, and they make you play that game alot more because you see it on your shelf

[opaque quest]

this

[teal swift]

to make sure my phsyical copy would be reserved for me

[sick sentinel]

so you think yo your self, oh, mario 3

im going to play that after work

[opaque quest]

I also got my games 2 days early on gamestop

[sick sentinel]

and then you do

[teal swift]

that $5 came off the price of the full game when i picked it up and paid.

[sick sentinel]

if its just a emulation file

[lusty grotto]

correct yogi

so you arent forced to preorder anymore

[opaque quest]

Dont waste your breath chippy

[lusty grotto]

so its a good point

[teal swift]

I like preordering when console games took up physical space

[sick sentinel]

you don't have the same connection, but a digital liscence to download the product is good when you are not at home

[teal swift]

like i preordered so many pokemon, harvestmoon games

e

tc

[opaque quest]

I pre ordered the battlefield games at gamestop

[teal swift]

espeically befoer amazon lul

[opaque quest]

Cause i knew they would be gone

[teal swift]

I found this fossil from pandemic

[lusty tiger]

i like to preorder to support development

[lusty grotto]

sometimes thats a good idea

sometimes

just not with blizzard

[opaque quest]

Cause multi bilion dollar companies need your money

[sick sentinel]

ya exactly, get a headcount of the EXCITED players

[opaque quest]

If its an indie game from 2 ppl

Sure

[lusty grotto]

with small studios, sure

[lusty tiger]

they have people to pay, yes

[sick sentinel]

thats purpose of preorder

[opaque quest]

If you think your money goes to devs youre just as brainwashed as yogi bear

[lusty grotto]

theyre already paying them jeree

you pay a sub

[lusty tiger]

money isnt coming out of the ceo's paycheck to fund the game im preordering

but im not too worried about the sub $100 it costs to preorder something anyway

[lusty grotto]

i mean neither am i

but i dont think flexing financials is a counter argument

at all

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlSGowph4dQ&ab_channel=AFGuidesHD how roach viewing yogi RN

[lusty grotto]

even if this was a company that released back to back bangers

[sick sentinel]

YOU'VE TRIED EVERYTHING, HES GUNNA PREORDER ANYWAY

[lusty grotto]

and i knew had the capital

i wouldnt preorder

[opaque quest]

Its more like watching a handicapped dog dying in a seizure

[lusty tiger]

if i am excited for a game i will play day one, if i am not i will wait for reviews

[lusty grotto]

its just not something that you need to do

you dont really get anything

3 days of early release is not worth it

[lusty tiger]

d4 was cool because i got to play like 4 days before release

[opaque quest]

You happy you paid 70 bucks for D4 on release?

[lusty tiger]

i was excited to play

[opaque quest]

Or bad investment

[lusty tiger]

i mean i got like 100hr out of it

so im not pressed

[lusty grotto]

🤷

we've been burned too many times

[opaque quest]

100 hours in launch F4

[lusty grotto]

i bought DF and didnt preorder

[opaque quest]

I see the problem is low standards

[sick sentinel]

i think D4 BAD and warcraft REFUNDED are extremely reductive memes

im sorry

[lusty grotto]

i bought SL and didnt preorder

and thank fucking god i didnt

[sick sentinel]

its so stupid......

[lusty tiger]

idk im a sucker i guess

[sick sentinel]

oh a game launched and its a bit fucky, BAD GAME DEAD GAME TERRIBLE

[lusty tiger]

i wanna experience the at launch exitement and if it is bad after that so be it

[teal swift]

If I'm playing wow when pre order happens for next xpac I'll buy

[sick sentinel]

gtfo here you wanna talk about shit games, ill show you some shit games lol

[lusty grotto]

anyway im churning dracothysts time to capitalize on the patch

[teal swift]

But like it's something I'll buy anyways

[lusty grotto]

😄

[teal swift]

How many alchemists you using a day

How much profit per craft

[lusty tiger]

420.69

[lusty grotto]

i farm my own shit while i work

at least on idle time

i had 3k glowspores

[sick sentinel]

no, if anything, i got brainwashed by russians somehow

[lusty grotto]

4.5k min buyout right now

[sick sentinel]

playing shitty slav-jank

[lusty grotto]

probably going up after season starts

[sick sentinel]

i've played tons of games where russians are the enemy

or you are one

[lusty grotto]

i only got a baby alchemist though and not enough points to lower cds etc

multicrafting on weapon though 🙂

[opaque quest]

4.5k wtf last time i logged in 2 weeks it was 2k

[lusty grotto]

this NA

so i guess it varies

[sick sentinel]

black ops 1 was so good

[lusty tiger]

💯

one of their last actual games

[sick sentinel]

I KEEP HEARING THE FUCKING NUMBERS

TELL US WHAT THEY MEAN OR WE WILL ALL DIE IN A NUCLEAR WAR

the entire game has such a sinister evil feeling to it

[toxic pewter]

Who else actually played original call of duty

[lusty grotto]

i did

it was great

og cod and og cod 2 we're great ww2 shooters

medal of honor too

[sick sentinel]

started with cod 4 on xbox or 360

[lusty grotto]

and of course BF 1942

[sick sentinel]

bf2 is pog

[lusty grotto]

talking about ww2 shooters

bf2 wasnt ww2

it was modern combat

[sick sentinel]

oh well cuz

it all runs together in what i call "brownmilsim"

[opaque quest]

Best shooter is BF4

By far

[sick sentinel]

cuz its just, military, everything brown,

[opaque quest]

Cant believe how they fumbled 2042

[lusty grotto]

BC2 is the best BF game

[sick sentinel]

bf 2142 was better

[lusty grotto]

its not BF2, its not BF3, and its not BF4

[opaque quest]

No strafing in BF2

BC2

[lusty grotto]

BF2142 is a close 2nd

[opaque quest]

BF4 is BF3 but in better

[sick sentinel]

all i fucking want

is 2142

for 5090

[lusty grotto]

idk im having fun, the game is great now

[toxic pewter]

I remember playing I think battlefield 2? and I enjoyed it

[sick sentinel]

watch that titan fucker explode in 4k rtx

144hz

well 1440p, with my hardware

[lusty grotto]

you mean proning

[opaque quest]

Na strafing. You couldnt side sideways

You had to turn into that direction and press W

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KH-Y0vIPeEg

i also suggested this game to that guy

you can't strafe in this one without downloading a file

i've played that game, at least 3 times in my life to the end

[opaque quest]

Pure pain. I tried to get into BC2 but no chance

[opaque quest]

Did you play Boltgun? its a boomer shooter too

Reviews are good

[sick sentinel]

civvie says its a game meant to brain wash you

you must want me to get more brainwashed

by playing boltgun

[opaque quest]

You pre order games. Cant get worse

[sick sentinel]

only blizzard games

[opaque quest]

Idk if thats worse or better tbh

Last game i ever pre ordered was WC3 refunded

[sick sentinel]

yup i preordered that too

and probably d2r

i also purchased the cartoon starcraft

[opaque quest]

Oh yeah carbots

Same

[teal swift]

D2R is an amazing game

D2LoD was better tho, they added too much new shit to d2r

[sick sentinel]

d2r contains lod

[toxic pewter]

U guys gonna watch blizzcon opening ceremony

[strong forum]

Nah

[sick sentinel]

im gunna watch ya

[toxic pewter]

Yah I watching also

[teal swift]

I like lod more than d2r revalances

[teal swift]

Ping me if anything interesting happens lul

[sick sentinel]

im not sure what the difference really is

it looks and feels like lod to me

[toxic pewter]

wat u guys think next xpac name gonna be called

[sick sentinel]

Mists of Vulpera

[strong forum]

Corruption of the sword

Idk

[toxic pewter]

LOL

Honestly hope they give allied races more customization

[lusty grotto]

its gonna be called 4 levelling zones, 1 city, 8 dungeons and 3 raids

[toxic pewter]

I will say they have a sword display set up lol

[toxic pewter]

😂

[lusty tiger]

based

[toxic pewter]

I think they will shake things up to be honest

[sick sentinel]

i should get like 20 socket carries on d2r

socket the hell out of a bunch of random crap i have

[opaque quest]

I hope they announce a loadout system for D4

Coming yesterday

[opaque quest]

I dont see a sword

[vocal flame]

Damn that’s cool

[toxic pewter]

Not my photo for the record. Got it from Reddit. I’m not at blizzcon

[vocal flame]

Damn you scuba Steve

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/scuba-steve-adam-sandler-big-daddy-snorkeling-gif-11166048

[sick sentinel]

ITS HAPPENING

its on

[toxic pewter]

Yes

[pallid quiver]

Am I supposed to be doomer or omega doomer? I'm not up to date with the WoW Player Narrative for Blizzcon

[strong forum]

omega doom

[jagged pier]

always doomer

[strong forum]

never happy

[jagged pier]

do u play wow?

[strong forum]

never satisfied

[jagged pier]

based

nome

based

[toxic pewter]

I’m very optimistic

[teal swift]

Fueled by Fomo

[toxic pewter]

Best days of blizzard still ahead of us

[pallid quiver]

Ye, knew the never happy part. I'll get on the omega doomer train when I've got a computer. I'll do my part, don't you worry, boss

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-gif-25908805

[teal swift]

@pallid quiver love your pfp

[opaque quest]

Litterally me

[lusty tiger]

Dam blizzard sucks imma preorder all their releases

🤡

[opaque quest]

Get the cards ready. Have to be first to preorder the digital deluxe when the trailer drops

[uneven mason]

99% sure we're going to see doomguy and master Chief show up in hots

[royal marten]

hots getting updated ever
lol lmao

[opaque quest]

Hots will get content

https://tenor.com/view/mr-rogers-nightmare-clown-gif-5401671

[uneven mason]

Microsoft is gonna resurrect it

You'll see

[opaque quest]

Looking at redfall and Forza Motorsport or Gears i dont have high hopes for Microsoft

[lusty tiger]

This would be tight af

[opaque quest]

I dont think Microsoft had a banger in the last few years apart from eternal

[uneven mason]

Well ok we'll get doomguy and masterchef skins in overwatch

[toxic pewter]

Nah hots is done

[opaque quest]

That might be true

[silent vessel]

starcraft2 x AoE2 game of my dreams

[opaque quest]

If we get Lilith in COD we can get Doomguy and Chief in OW

[lusty tiger]

[toxic pewter]

They don’t even sell hots merch lmao

[lusty tiger]

Talking about my beloved like that

[opaque quest]

Its crazy. I can still find games in mid masters in minutes

There is defo still a playerbase

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/mean-girls-regina-george-its-not-going-to-happen-sorry-not-happening-gif-16164723

[lusty tiger]

Ew dota2 euro playing hots

I could not think of a more disgusting thing

[blazing condor]

ur playing against all bots

[opaque quest]

[sick sentinel]

nothing too exciting yet besides phil

WARCRAFT IME

[blazing condor]

w south park reference

[toxic pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

Just used the word BOLD

ITS HAPPENING

[opaque quest]

Oh its on youtube

No need for Ticket

[silent vessel]

twitch too

[opaque quest]

Second monitor time

[jagged pier]

all the big panels from day one have been streamed for a while now

[sick sentinel]

whats the time line for actual wow announcment

[toxic pewter]

Prob after hearthstone

Prob giving hearthstone 10 min

[opaque quest]

After Hearthstone we get Overwatch 2

Overwatch League 2.0 kekW

[toxic pewter]

Nah overwatch 2 already happened

[silent vessel]

overwatch 2 was in the beginning

[jagged pier]

1pm for the wow whats next thing

the breif overview will be soon

[opaque quest]

Ah got it didnt watch

[silent vessel]

we get warcraft rumble after hearthstone i assume

[uneven mason]

They're going to roll directly from this to the wow panel

[silent vessel]

maybe they stretch it so they go seamless into wow: whats next

[toxic pewter]

Rumble prob won’t take too much time

[pallid quiver]

1 pm what time zone

[silent vessel]

https://blizzcon.com/en-us/virtual/schedule

[jagged pier]

really hard to open launcher

and click on link

[pallid quiver]

I'm not at computer ;-;

I'm currently having my human rights violated

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-guys-not-have-a-phone-blizzard-diablo-gif-5097388828827651695

[opaque quest]

https://tenor.com/view/crackhead-homeless-man-punching-fighting-red-shirt-gif-25119400

[uneven mason]

This poor dude

[opaque quest]

Burned because Bobby is an idiot

[silent vessel]

this hearthstone talk

oof

[jagged pier]

ketchup packs

[uneven mason]

They were like, who gets to announce Coatracks cashgrab?

[teal swift]

90 minutes

[toxic pewter]

Could they of named these packs any worse lmao