Interesting
#protection
strong forum
i love how his UI didnt change since then xd
strong forum
wow this first pull is tiny
compared to DF pulls
xd
how far we've come
im just checking here
and scrolling down forever and ever
until you find something interesting
raw sundial
Thx a lot !
Will spend all week trying 2 play it
But I found interesting
That if I take not devastate but talent which gives 20% of extra hp and 20% extra ip size
toxic pewter
Wish I played prot in legion 
looks fun
raw sundial
It’s much easier and I can just stay in pack without kiting
Can it be useful in terms of dps.Cuz u stay still and your dps do their job
But I guess I must teach how 2 kite
lusty grotto
20% extra HP?
raw sundial
Yeah
lusty grotto
indomitable in legion
no
thats a hard no
we didnt play it until SL
20% extra hp will not save you from bad plays
strong forum
That if I take not devastate but talent which gives 20% of extra hp and 20% extr...
these talents are entirely obsoleted by devastator
and never surrender or indomitable
are absolutely useless
lusty grotto
☝️
strong forum
losing a gigantic part of rage generation
to have slightly more HP
or have a tiny part bigger IP cap
is not useful
raw sundial
Cuz it’s more rage = more rage spend = better cd reduction of saves right ?
strong forum
rage generation is what you care about
yes
more rage = more cds = more rage = more cds = more surv
its a big feedback loop
same as today
vocal flame
So I tried guardian on an alt and it’s sooooo boring. Like seriously my grandmother can play it and she’s been dead 20 years
raw sundial
same as today
What about kiting
I have 2 charges of stubs
Stuns both 2.5 cd without dr
strong forum
kite meta in legion requires someone who can permanently slow the group after youve gathered aggro and then just piss off until pack is dead whilst also staying out of range
raw sundial
And 50% slow
strong forum
after youve got your threat on everything
you just kite until shit is dead
theres no real skill to it besides that
you go pull everything, unleash all your dmg once gathered, stun if you have to, then piss off until dead and kite outside of mob range so the mobs do not try to cast anything onto anyone
strong forum
in legion warlocks with permanent corruption slow ring were the ones slowing
raw sundial
I think hunter can be useful as well cuz he can put aggro on me
strong forum
yes
raw sundial
Or rogue
strong forum
ideally both
warlock, hunter, rogue and hpala healer
the hpal can bop you when you start gathering mobs
so you can pull without taking dmg
raw sundial
Also rogue can be in middle of pack I can intervene him and make stuns in no time
Yeah
I need hpal !
strong forum
and they can also pull for you
raw sundial
Right
strong forum
via tricks/misdirection
jagged gust
Can ret pals still bop me for gathering purposes? Or is that hpal specific
lusty grotto
they can
jagged gust
talking retail, idk if you guys are still on the legion train
lusty grotto
cause any heal any buff will pull off you
and you wont be able to attack until you cancel it
lusty grotto
it works on bear cause they can just use spells etc
jagged gust
Yeah makes sense, I run with a bunch of low key andys and we have issues with thing like chains in neltharus
Just trying to figure out how not to get my healer zonked by accident if I miss a mob while running
raw sundial
But if I take hpal and mm hunter
I get boped
Took all packs
Hunter md me
Profit
After bop
strong forum
yes after bop, MD
lusty grotto
sure
strong forum
that works perfectly
lusty grotto
tricks also works
raw sundial
And last question is stats I guess ,on pserver we can’t figure out
What’s better mastery or versalirt
Or I should have item sets on mastery and versality
Mastery works same way as I guess as on retail
Gives ap ,same as mastery % ,more than in retail
jagged gust
Mastery good for phys, vers good for magic, iirc you try to balance it for legion then gear swap for what the encounter needs
lusty grotto
you should have reflective plating for nukes
jagged gust
yeah crit was dookie
raw sundial
Crit gives parry but scaling is poor
strong forum
idk if they reworked parry gains from crit from legion to now
jagged gust
I'm not even sure haste was super important past like the first tier of DR but it's hard to recall at this point
jagged gust
well like 30% then, whatever our current iteration of DR would be the equivalent of
raw sundial
I think haste is prior stat cuz of the sb uptime
strong forum
well like 30% then, whatever our current iteration of DR would be the equivalent...
that doesnt exist in legion
raw sundial
But atm
I can have like
35 haste 30 mastery 10 versaliry
So I have like an idea
To switch bracers to paths Lego
teal swift
@strong forum how much does should I expect from this like 380 frostmage in keys, is there a way to sim it, she's turbo confident that wow is easy
strong forum
380 hmmm
teal swift
70k overall seem fair?
raw sundial
They gives + 1 charge of sb and also reflect
strong forum
yeah 70k sounds good
teal swift
Kk
raw sundial
So I can lower haste ,and take higher mastery and versality
hardy snow
how you can have 380 while there is free 400+ gear
strong forum
They gives + 1 charge of sb and also reflect
once youve used all those charges up, you dont get a benefit from the pants anymore
stay with bracers
and then gloves for ST dmg
and belt for aoe
teal swift
how you can have 380 while there is free 400+ gear
Idfk
strong forum
So I can lower haste ,and take higher mastery and versality
you want to keep haste high
because it means more rage which means more self healing, more CDs
etc etc
strong forum
you cant overcap haste unless you reach over 100% haste consistently
raw sundial
So ,all haste proc trinkets are good
strong forum
depends specifically on which trinket
just because it says haste doesnt mean its good
arcanocrystal is an amazing trinket
raw sundial
and I have one that gives 23% leech on 12 second from mythic nh
strong forum
aswell as shivermaws jawbone
raw sundial
arcanocrystal is an amazing trinket
3 times Jim didn’t have it
raw sundial
aswell as shivermaws jawbone
Can’t get high ilvl of it
Saw 2 warriors got very high one from weekly chest but it’s like absurd low possibility
strong forum
draught of souls obv is a banger trinket
raw sundial
U mean on boss fights ?
strong forum
also in m+ iirc
but i guess you cant block during it
so you just flop
coagulated nightwell residue is also listed as good
but iguess thats also not m+ dungeon yet
raw sundial
No ,I have this one
It gives mastery
I will try make screenshots
Today in evening
So ,what I got today
- devastator is a must
2)if there is no bop I can use some saves and pop sb during run on speed potion - can use rogue /hunt to make pulling much easier
Can leech be useful ?
I mean trinket gives 23% leech on 12 seconds
And my aoe dmg is very high during burst
Will definitely try it
strong forum
Leech is very good in aoe yes
rugged mural
With the 10.2 tier. Is Shockwave something we really can't afford to take any more for M+ because we want to take the two Dragon's Rorar talents?
strong forum
?
No
While it is a nice to have benefit to pick uproar
Sacrificing shockwave as tank for it, is not an option
Unless your group specifically is okay with you not using it and it being coordinated
But for General use to not play shockwave is pretty much trolling in high keys
waxen orbit
Sacrificing shockwave as tank for it, is not an option
Ya like I was playing with it
And yes it feels great
But this dungeon lineup?
It’s suicide
There is way too much shit that you need to kick
It’s actually one of the main things I noticed felt better on prot pal (other than their tier set just being nuts)
Throne of the Tides
strong forum
ToT is actually one of the contenders for being one of the better pwar keys
waxen orbit
It is for sure on the bosses
The trash felt better on prot pal
Should have clarified
Like 2nd and 3rd boss legit felt like a child throwing squeaky toys at me on prot warr
Which is refreshing
lusty grotto
spell block makes that trash irrelevant
waxen orbit
Galakrond’s trash feels challenging though I will admit
waxen orbit
spell block makes that trash irrelevant
Oh I’m talking about the damage it does to the rest of the group LMAO
lusty grotto
🤷 warrior just bootyclap
waxen orbit
True true
Feels great hitting a massive opener with roar + rend + outburst shield slam wombo combo and proccing the Fyrakk beacon trinket
Can’t wait to not get it
Y’all think they’ll make Earthen Might a talent node in the future?
grim pilot
@strong forum whenever I feel like I had a good key and did some dam like 120-130 in fh I remember your 160
strong forum
havent done a FH in forever
i did do 190 as arms in BH last week!
so i think that was ok, dunno whats considered ok i do like 1 dps key per season
without aug ofc
grim pilot
Yeah thats good
Its hard to say what’s good on non high key level where pulls are standarised and sfuff but 190 is a very solid number
grim pilot
Ye
Thats why I hold r1 on multiple key levels as prot
And then do 30k less than u
Or even 50k on 17
Kekw
strong forum
grim pilot
I wanna see really badly those taiwense arms warriors
Like how much do they actually do in +30
strong forum
they do seem to dominate the leaderboards ye
like the TW scene in general
their m+ cutoff is always so fucking high
like 300 points higher than NA
grim pilot
Its hard to say if I can improve much or not because I have no point of reference
grim pilot
Some people say that it’s because there are less players but
I’d say it’s mostly due to their competitive nature
They are dominating on non meta spec leaderboards
strong forum
yeh their high ranked player population is larger than other regions comparatively
strong forum
They are dominating on non meta spec leaderboards
always have
legit
their approach to high end pvp is very different to ours
they love their warri dps
grim pilot
grim pilot
Ye they better start logging 🔪
strong forum
they always got gob stomped
but they did show up!
also had 1 prot warrior give us bad rep from CN
by playing absolutely terrible legendary + covenant combination in MDI in SL
strong forum
basically
imagine youre playing a full DPS 0 surv pwar
like you dont pick shockwave
you dont pick block talents
you go full bleed investment + uproar
grim pilot
Kekw
strong forum
thats what that guy did
basically played smth like this
and showed up to MDI
like an absolutely terrible build
and just chain wiped obv
lost the match from the first pull
grim pilot
Holy moly bt
That gives me s1 flashback
When I started retail and played it
And was rage starved because I had no idea how to play this spec and someone told me to play Bt
strong forum
its so funny
lusty grotto
people play BT because they are bear players that think revenge = raze
strong forum
whenever someone comes in and says "bro im so rage starved idk what it is"
and you just straight up ask nothing but
are you playing BT?
and they say yeah, then come back after stopping to play it
and they say that it fixed it
is the funniest shit
jagged gust
https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/protection/DAPAURUUUgBVURohQVBBMVUVF...
It's funny how rigid pwar talents are, even trying to make them look bad you can only move like 3 talent points lmao
grim pilot
Ye now I feel like I’m overflowing in rage but I also play better
strong forum
nah bro look closer william
grim pilot
Might try bt some day
strong forum
no 1h spec, 5% dmg loss 5% leech loss
grim pilot
To see if it’s as shit as I remember it
jagged gust
oh lmao didnt even see the juggernaut
grim pilot
That’s straight up trolling
strong forum
okay not true it 5% leech
instead of 10%
but that build there
will let you think
grim pilot
Like thatms a dps loss too
grim pilot
Kekw I also remember s1 not understanding how shield block works exactly
strong forum
if you dont know any better
grim pilot
And wondering why am I taking so much damage
Idk I also didnt like previous tier set
I really like this one though
jagged gust
I really like our new set
grim pilot
Havent tried it and seems fine on paper but i feel like im gonna miss current one
I haven’t really pressed LS too much in s1 and this tier set made me do it to utilise its relevance
And I grew fond of it
jagged gust
I'm 50/50 in losing old set, I like getting back LS as a defensive, don't like having to add another keybind to use it lol
lusty grotto
meh
grim pilot
Honestly I was a shit tank, still kinda am - more often pressed defs after taking damage and dropping to 50% than preventing it
grim pilot
I mean idk when I try it on ptr I might like it but I just know that current>>>>>s1
lusty grotto
having played bfa, bolster playstyle isnt anything new
it became old relatively fast
jagged gust
14% dr from tier, probably in the realm of 10-15% from vers, another 20% from stance, I'm feeling safe as fuck bois
grim pilot
I remember someone coming and saying how vers is getting its value on ptr due to tier set, are sims showing vers>crit?
jagged gust
Nah, just higher ilvl means more secondaries to play with
grim pilot
Ah word
jagged gust
but even now vers sims well if you're full 447, I've swapped half my crafted pieces and all my enchants for it
lusty grotto
crit will sim way higher next patch
tier being able to crit amongst other things
but of course there's DR
jagged gust
oh but yeah you were right, the tier was bugged so vers was looking better for dps because it couldn't crit initially
strong forum
Havent tried it and seems fine on paper but i feel like im gonna miss current on...
idk it plays the same
you just replace LS with TR
and voila
same tierset with different number allocation
you just consciously press TC right after SS even if TC isnt ready yet
strong forum
yes
grim pilot
but even now vers sims well if you're full 447, I've swapped half my crafted pie...
Ye me wanting to play arms in m+, arms in raid, prot in m+ and fury sometimes in m+ doesnt help my gear
So I just sim for raid
strong forum
silk kiln
I’ll have to look again
jagged gust
For me the only difference between arms and prot is mastery pulls ahead in 5+ target aoe sims
sick sentinel
define disgusting amounts of vers
strong forum
like 7-8k
bleak breach
Rip
strong forum
wdym rip
silk kiln
sick sentinel
i've been horror game enjoyer andy this week due to halloween and all
silk kiln
Took a ss before hopping off
silk kiln
😅
bleak breach
Love me some vers and just stopped using bt hahaha
strong forum
aside from TR rest looks correct
grim pilot
Mans had TR of his life
silk kiln
Would having both tr capstones change that
strong forum
nah
grim pilot
But 20% is insanely strong
silk kiln
Hmm
strong forum
im comparing with T31 profile sim
should look like this
obv you didnt use those trinkets
so gotta change that
but TR is competing with revenge
not beating thunderclap
strong forum
vdh is only beating us cuz their rework did alot of crazy shit
nah we're only 2k behind VDH
but by fine i mean
also defensively
like i dont wanna overpronounce us being really good
cuz it all comes down to how fights pan out
strong forum
well if the tier has several experiments/zskarns
grim pilot
Ive never seen tanks legitimately struggle on prog boss
urban bane
progging experiments and zskarn on prot was kinda pain
strong forum
and we dont know that boss
urban bane
ya
strong forum
nobody does
if pwar is shit on last boss
would look weird if i said pwar is really good for raid would it
grim pilot
Ig
strong forum
and pwar is the only tank that MASSIVELY relies on how the tank mechanics looks like
as in, is it a singular hit
or a massive dot chain (that is potentially unblockable)
unless they pull a sark
where the dot is spellblockable
which in turn means youre one of the best tanks
like we are for sark
grim pilot
Kekw
strong forum
like BDK is good and all, theyre immortal like always in raid
but they dont do anything towards reducing the p1 and p2 raid tank dmg
(which doesnt rly matter)
like the best tanks i would say are pwar and pally for sark
pally cuz spellwarding for bombs in p3
strong forum
and pwar can spellblock+SW the bomb
and solo soak
and thus let the other person also survive with externals
and pwar can generally spellblock all tank dots on that fight
grim pilot
Are we gonna be blind about fyrakk till 14th?
strong forum
yes
grim pilot
My first rasz hc kill was like week 19 because I figured might as well get aotc
grim pilot
Ye sark wasnt fun day 1
I had absolutely no idea what’s happening
I need me some method raiders to explain what to do
cursive prawn
Think the two before him weren’t tested either
strong forum
ye
rygelon and lords werent tested either
cuz sepulchre wasnt supposed to be the last raid tier
but they made a "last minute" decision
so they threw those 3 bosses in from the real last raid tier
and combined the 2
thats why halondrus and anduin were so fucking hard
they were meant to be the last 2 actual endbosses of that raid
strong forum
the lore was supposed to be
we free anduin
and learn about domination magic from him
to face the jailer in the next raid
but uhm yeah
cursive prawn
You can definitely tell the raid took a whole different aesthetic after him
Like they randomly dropped the rest from another raid as you say
sick sentinel
how come the legendary blizzcon collection doesn't come with a ticket (virtual) to extra blizzcon access
sick sentinel
that seems silly to me, and i don't play the other games that often enough to make it worth pruchase, besides mount if mount i can ONLY get through that, we will see
not the extra events though
there is some form of behind the scenes content
sick sentinel
not really no
lusty grotto
it does to me
sick sentinel
but i think its sill that the item called "legendary blizzcon collection" does not include the ticket
given the price
chilly brook
Ive never seen tanks legitimately struggle on prog boss
I have
sick sentinel
main reason i will buy it is if it is a total exclusive mount
chilly brook
granted should they have? probably not
sick sentinel
cuz its pretty close to what matches my transmog
chilly brook
but also on zskarn or experiments you as a prot boi are kind of leaning a lot on your cotank
sick sentinel
thats only thing i really need to know, not in a rush
strong forum
how come the legendary blizzcon collection doesn't come with a ticket (virtual) ...
cuz virtual blizzcon ticket is like 350 bucks
smile
and physical blizzcon ticket is like 700 bucks
smile
sick sentinel
i mean, wtf tho lol, virtutal
strong forum
🙂
strong forum
the virtual ticket used to be like... 60? bucks
sick sentinel
are you nuts if you say 350 dollar virutal ticket
insanity
costs, 350 bucks a head, for virtual tune ins, uh-huh
sick sentinel
like, the whale pass i get it
strong forum
virtual ticket doesnt exist yet i think?
sick sentinel
300 bucks even with all this inflation seems omegalul
chilly brook
that's not virtual ticket
strong forum
yes i know
strong forum
this was physical tickets
^
sick sentinel
like even then though too
there is the problem that
you get your buddy to pirate it, and he passes the information to you by streaming it on pricate discord
and he tells you what the ppl r saying
or u wait a week
and then it comes out on YT
its like, its a very weird position for them to be in if u askin me
strong forum
i guess theres no virtual ticket? the stream itself is free you can just buy the collection packs
chilly brook
i guess theres no virtual ticket? the stream itself is free you can just buy the...
the ticket is replaced with the collection pass
chilly brook
strong forum
mainly cuz i already finished the premium battle pass in d4
eh maybe ill get the basic one
sick sentinel
im playing horror games mostly cuz halloween
love weird and creepy and bloody games also
chilly brook
eh maybe ill get the basic one
The mount is cool for wow that's about it
chilly brook
which unfortunately is in the big pack
sick sentinel
the standard looks cool too
chilly brook
I wish I cared about D4
sick sentinel
i'm just waiting for the super sale on d4
cuz, i already haven't finished 2 or 3 or 1
chilly brook
bought it, got to like level 15 or something and couldn't be fucked to play it more
sick sentinel
i mean i got to hell twice in 2 but
even with the free demo i think there is one going
im not sure i'd even install it
also its 100 gb
chilly brook
I'd be hype if they add that blood knight bullshit they put in Immortal into 4
sick sentinel
mostly annoying to download size
chilly brook
Class legit looked cool except for the part that it was a mobile game
strong forum
I wish I cared about D4
im a diablo fanboy since childhood and absolute love the dynamic of heaven vs hell
chilly brook
I liked d3
strong forum
i have like 3k hrs in d3 so i was ultra hyped for d4
sick sentinel
oh cool i got anemail from " Netfl1'x "
strong forum
i was absolutely destroyed by s1 and lost faith
sick sentinel
better go check it out
strong forum
but s2 has me believing again
was a good season
if they can keep up the same level of improvement in s3 + add good endgame
chilly brook
i was absolutely destroyed by s1 and lost faith
I just didn't think it was fun to play on launch
strong forum
then the game is finally launched
chilly brook
didn't even stick around for s1
strong forum
i played like 70hrs of d4 beta
chilly brook
might check it again here in a bit
strong forum
so i knew about early game
and just mega bumrushed through story on launch in 6hrs
i was also playing to get my name on the statue so yeah
that has definitely helped with motivation
chilly brook
I think a lot of it is I didn't find a class I was in love with
sick sentinel
if i played d4
i would just murder hobo until i started to die alot
thas about it, not much more to it
strong forum
thats the point of the entire game
jagged gust
the more you murder hobo the less you die tho
toxic pewter
Season 3 definitely feels more difficult so far that’s for sure
Based on my ptr testing at least
Could actually be a good season after all 🤔
waxen frigate
@lusty tiger
open bluff
(can confirm, 12 year olds usually do)
lusty tiger
<@193453212500623360>
I’ve never cried
waxen frigate
Ok weirdo
waxen frigate
None of those words are in the Bible
lusty tiger
Google the Bible
jagged gust
Google is in the bible
toxic pewter
None of those words are in the Bible
all of this is in the bible, actually, the words themselves 'sure'..
but its all there, that is for sure.
lusty grotto
sounds legit
cerulean tusk
Can you go back to 3999? Just sounds like a better deal
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
life
toxic pewter
https://tenor.com/view/lost-we-have-to-go-back-jack-shepherd-tv-show-reaction-gi...
that is basically all men aged 30-49 at this time
lusty grotto
im a move forward enjoyer
toxic pewter
nice
lusty grotto
maybe when im closer to 50 ill feel that way 😦
toxic pewter
do not live with regret
lusty grotto
this true
toxic pewter
that is what most people say on their death bed
they wish they worked less
spent time with their loved ones more
pursued their dreams
lusty grotto
agree agree
cerulean tusk
Pet a cat a day, keep deathbed away 
lusty tiger
Cats are the secret to immortality?
cerulean tusk
Or, accept, that WoW is soon dead. In the grand scheme of things, tier never mattered and your logs will be less worth than actual dust 
toxic pewter
there is this neighborhood cat I always run into outside she so nice
I am sad one day i go outside and she wont be there
lusty tiger
Steal the cat
toxic pewter
LOL
she walks into my house and everything.. O_O
of course I always put her back outside lol
lusty tiger
The cat is yours now
toxic pewter
the owner is always away working
unironically
the owner has a cat door for her though
cerulean tusk
instal one for yourself, let the cat chose
toxic pewter
people have told to me get a cat
cerulean tusk
People do say these things 
teal swift
I am sad one day i go outside and she wont be there
Give her treats let her live inside your house
@toxic pewter get a cat
toxic pewter
I can’t steal a dudes cat though lol
teal swift
If the owner is irresponsible enough to let it be an outdoor cat
toxic pewter
Yah she def an outdoor cat
teal swift
The cat deserves an average lifespan of 12-15 years
Instead of 2-3 years of the average outdoor cat
cursive prawn
Outdoor is not necessarily bad
toxic pewter
Well she indoor outdoor
cursive prawn
Depending on where you live
toxic pewter
She has a cat door literally
toxic pewter
Dang didn’t realize it’s so low
toxic pewter
That’s her
cerulean tusk
cursive prawn
teal swift
That’s her
Looooove
teal swift
My gf likes those kinda cats
cursive prawn
teal swift
Cats make me happy
teal swift
Wouldn't mind a dog, but cats are so affectionate and attentive
Without being disruptive
cerulean tusk
Ya got a parasite in ye brain tinfoil hat
teal swift
I cuddle with mine every day
cursive prawn
Dogs are definitely too high maintenance and loud for me
toxic pewter
Well I am more of a dog person but when my ex gf left with our dog I haven’t been able to get a new pet since
cerulean tusk
Dogs are man's best friend, this a fact. Cats great companions tho. So if you can't keep a dogo, cat is a fair option. Dream is both, and multiple
teal swift
Well I am more of a dog person but when my ex gf left with our dog I haven’t bee...
Im sorry to hear, I'd have fought for dog custody ngl
toxic pewter
Yes
teal swift
Like idk, someone taking my pet with them, idk I couldn't handle it
toxic pewter
lol fair enough
teal swift
She can have the kid 
toxic pewter
Lmao
Just sucks to lose him we would go to the dog park like many times a week
Good times
Maybe a cat can help me heal
🤔
cursive prawn
It for sure will
It’s hard to explain, but just their presence in a household makes you more zen, stress free, fulfilled
toxic pewter
I live alone though do you think I would need two cats
I feel bad if they are alone and stuff are cats even ok with that or not really
cursive prawn
It depends on the breed, some take longer than others to feel lonely. I strongly support getting 2
toxic pewter
Interesting
cursive prawn
And even within the breed, it will depend on their individual personalities/experience
teal swift
Maybe a cat can help me heal
The right breed
And you'll have a long term companion
Hairless cats are insanely friendly and cuddly
cursive prawn
Those are also quite expensive
toxic pewter
I guess if I do it I would prob go to the cat shelter see if any of them sort of take a liking to me
If that makes sense
toxic pewter
Black cats are cool
teal swift
They are far less likely to be adopted
And far more likely to be abused
And also more likely to be put down
toxic pewter
Wow really
teal swift
Yeah
toxic pewter
That’s awful
cursive prawn
Until recently some countries in Europe used to burn them
Witch companions they said
toxic pewter
Superstitions
teal swift
They are apart of superstition a lot too
So adopt the black cat when you can
You're more likely to save a life
cursive prawn
On the flip side, white cats also could use help. They have a significant chance of being deaf
cursive prawn
^ torties and gingers reading this chat
oblique garnet
No
teal swift
Depends on what you are doing. It matters a lot more in keys than in raid
jagged gust
Nah if Late says it it has to be true.
oblique garnet
Nah if Late says it it has to be true.
Well in keys yes it matters in raid its practically irrelevant
pallid quiver
raid tanks have been clearing content with 20k DPS this whole tier, anyhow, so yeah
Would it clear faster with tanks doing more? Yeah. Do you need it? No.
content's cleared by beating the content, however that is
jagged gust
Says you, me and my group of mouthbreathers need all the help we can get
pallid quiver
Damage won't be the thing that helps your raid group clear, unfortunately
It's getting them to actually do the content
violet flume
bro if youre doing 20k dps youre not doing other stuff right for sure
teal swift
Would they even have enough rage gen at 20k dps
Tonkeep up shield block
And some IP
pallid quiver
Yeah, but they've full cleared Heroic like that
jagged gust
People also wipe on Kazzara
teal swift
People also wipe on Kazzara
These people are the wow equivalent of the omish
ionic fern
I'd say "these people" make up the majority of wow playerbase.
teal swift
They can't be omish then :notlikethis: but for real, it usually happens a lot in self contained communities, that aren't in places like this discord
And aren't looking to improve
They are absolutely having fun tho, and really their sub their time
warm plinth
Are you trying to say AMISH?
ionic fern
Hello Ghash, hope you have a good working night.
warm plinth
Hello Ghash, hope you have a good working night.
I just got home 
ionic fern
EYyy., nice.
warm plinth
Coming up on the end of my one for every spec journey
ionic fern
warm plinth
warm plinth
Outlaw
warm plinth
No I've played outlaw since the start of SL
warm plinth
Oh. I think it's up in the air between them and sub right now
ionic fern
Where's Assassination. 😦
teal swift
Wtf is specless @warm plinth
ionic fern
Always liked that spec.
warm plinth
It's what it sounds like
ionic fern
YOu don't choose talents after 10.
warm plinth
How do you get a specless char
like this
jagged pier
teal swift
Too bad you can only have two evoker per account
ionic fern
Was there any consideration into which class you wanted to go Specless with?
E.g priest has the best "standard" abilities?
warm plinth
Uh, that's not true lol
warm plinth
No, the only limitation is 1 per server
jagged pier
No, the only limitation is 1 per server
nope
teal swift
Feels like a scam
jagged pier
u can get around that as well
warm plinth
Because I had deleted the alliance one at one point and when I undeleted it, the name was taken and I was too lazy to come up with another one
well, yeah you can
Delete the evoker, make new one, undelete the deleted one
teal swift
Wtf lmao
warm plinth
But I already have toons on multiple servers so I just made 1 on each
ionic fern
Why is there even a limitation for Evokers?
warm plinth
I have no idea
I think all the hero classes have had limitations at first though
Maybe because they start at a higher level, though I don't really feel that's a good reason
teal swift
Tfw inflation ruining Jakey too
warm plinth
what's a dollar worth in britain, like $50?
(USD is actually worth less than pounds rn)
jagged pier
1.21 dollars
hazy bronze
EUR currencies
jagged pier
1.68 that is really down
oof australian dollar is nearly 2:1
like F for aussy man
and their regulation on games is nearly as bad as China
lavish sphinx
Aus to Pound has always been pretty much 2:1
lavish sphinx
Anything better is just a bonus
True story
I married a Brit so whenever we visit her family we’re eating beans
jagged pier
hey at least you have higher salary rates 
tepid obsidian
our cost of living is bad rn
jagged pier
so is everyones tho tbh
tepid obsidian
really? when i was in europe smokes were 9 euro
jagged pier
well uk at least
tepid obsidian
uk i got a pack for around 13 pound
lavish sphinx
Nah UK cost of living is magnitudes worse
jagged pier
our PM suggested to raise the age of being able to by them by a year every year so eventually ppl wouldnt be able to buy them cause noone would be that old 
lavish sphinx
The MIL’s monthly energy bill is twice our quarterly bill
tepid obsidian
i guess worldwide cost of living is fkd
jagged pier
The MIL’s monthly energy bill is twice our quarterly bill
brah we dont even turn on the heating till we have to now
im in blankets
and jumpers
lavish sphinx
our PM suggested to raise the age of being able to by them by a year every year...
New Zealand did this
Black market is thriving
jagged pier
of course
lavish sphinx
Come Australia Jakey, our winters are mild as fuck
tepid obsidian
aus is an L
sweet summit
every island nation is an L
jagged pier
Come Australia Jakey, our winters are mild as fuck
its too hot for me
lavish sphinx
Yeah that’s like 2 months of the year for us
jagged pier
every island nation is an L
the biggest L we are doing right now is not using tidal power we literally surrounded by waves, but nah lets not bother looking into that technology at all
jagged pier
CAT
sweet summit
big oil is silencing renewable energy breakthroughs 🗣️🗣️🗣️
dull sleet
Germany cigs are 9€ for 23-27 cigs
lavish sphinx
That’s the misso
tepid obsidian
well that is awkward
dull sleet
Too bad
sweet summit
?XD
tepid obsidian
i'm gonna go now
lavish sphinx
ionic fern
CAT
We put up Halloween decorations yesterday and during the night my cat ripped down like half of them.
jagged pier
teal swift
jagged pier
thorny stone
https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591
lavish sphinx
You can tell it’s the end of the season lol
toxic tiger
drifting river
dab it up!
digital delta
bleak breach
ruby berry
My Chumba
bleak breach
My big meow meow was 11kg
jagged pier
😮
bleak breach
Poor old boy, he lived a good long life.
jagged pier
bleak breach
The dreaded cancer got him, he was the toughest cat on the block.
lavish sphinx
We’re here for you Sokraxx
jagged pier
rich wyvern
hardy snow
I recommend tome of teleportation addon https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/tome-teleportation Ive started to use it few weeks ago and I changed all my dung teleports and HS with single button its not best, lacks some customization imo, but im still happy with it
strange lintel
its like you stole my cat to take a picture and brought it back before i noticed
unique shale
hello anybody can help me with catch up system ?
pallid quiver
or just 2 shadowflame something
2 Shadowflames are the best and are currently looking to continue to be the best in next patch
pallid quiver
hello anybody can help me with catch up system ?
and what are you looking for?
pallid quiver
Are you talking the current Dreamsurges?
unique shale
i heard there is catch up system if you log after a long time
jagged pier
no u dont want that
pallid quiver
And it will tell you about it on character select
jagged pier
and thats not for max lvl
pallid quiver
^^^
unique shale
jagged pier
and u can get to 447 in like 2 weeks of minimun work anyway
unique shale
back to dung grinding i guess ?
uneven mason
Also next tier lfr is equal to mythic raid ilvl so
uneven mason
back to dung grinding i guess ?
Basically
unique shale
i need every pices of item for push week
jagged pier
u also missed the last one of the season
its was last week
or is it this week
cant remeber
pallid quiver
it's next week :L
unique shale
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G-spy2vtqg
jagged pier
thats literally free
pallid quiver
It's sanguine or something; before I attempted to bed, people I was playing with went to do keys
I failed at bed and I already don't remember
pallid quiver
Most the people I know are doing them to just, like
play the game
Or to gear alts for next season
Though I wager it'd be faster to just gear through next season's gearing mechs, though I have zero idea on that
jagged pier
but the dream is raid logging
pallid quiver
Raid logging's like the least fun way to engage with the game to me, since that involves scheduling the time to raid, which I hate, and playing minimal amounts of the game I'm dedicating time to
strange lintel
get catch up gear > m+ > ????? > profit
pallid quiver
I do encourage it for most people, though, since it gives you time to like
Live
strange lintel
raid logging is what you do when you literally run out of things to do like m+ climbing and pvp ( heh )
personally just end m+ climbin at ksh cuz i dont care about scores and im probly not good enough anyways. so once ive gotten all m+ gear i need from M+ and i just need vaults then its time to raid log
random M+ key when a friend needs help
jagged pier
if i raid log i actually play less and have more of a life
blazing condor
cringe
jagged pier
which is why i want m+ to be completly seperate
I hate the first month - 2 months of a season
cause im also grinding m+ for gear
when i literally could be doing somthing i enjoy
unique shale
pugging is cancer
no pugging is life
strange lintel
🫡
teal swift
which is why i want m+ to be completly seperate
Just make NA account
We can jam out m+
opaque quest
gm bois. Long time no see
jagged pier
yer it doesnt matter who im doing m+ with i just dont enjoy it after what 7 years or whatever its been since its come out
opaque quest
I havent logged into wow in 10 days and i havent felt as good in 6 months
jagged pier
as much as it is fun to play with peeps
oblique garnet
yer it doesnt matter who im doing m+ with i just dont enjoy it after what 7 year...
Bad dungeons boring affixes
jagged pier
based
oblique garnet
Mandatory 8 keys a week on prog
jagged pier
yep