I can tell you guys what will fix everything
#protection
ionic fern
I wish we could have killed SYlvanas together with Nathanos.
lusty grotto
me too
jagged pier
We should have killed my queen
median tulip
I'd have been down for that
bleak breach
She’s gonna pop back up all white instead of purple
toxic pewter
Gonna ask chatgpt to write wow lore pretending to be George RR Martin
median tulip
Lots of people would have gone REEEEEEEEEEE though
bleak breach
We will fall for her crap again and the new xpac will be BFA 2.0
ionic fern
Who cares.
toxic pewter
Sylvanas should get together with Azeroth when she gets her humanoid form
bleak breach
It felt like it was time for her to go
jagged pier
I was sad voljin went but meh thats the srory
bleak breach
Missed opportunity I think
median tulip
We will fall for her crap again and the new xpac will be BFA 2.0
Probably unpopular opinion: I didn't actually mind BfA and I'm mildly bemused by the hate it gets
bleak breach
I hope we see Illidan again someday
bleak breach
I don’t honestly know what I didn’t like exactly, the cinematic were awesome. Story was a bit off though, I like the whole war between horde and alliance
bleak breach
Then again I quit after they killed my man Saurfang, not because of that though, dunno was just my time.
jagged pier
BFA was chill af.,
I love how they were like 'you arent gunna team up, there no relationship left between the horde and the alliance'
ionic fern
Never forget that BFA gave us epic Saurfang cinematics
jagged pier
ionic fern
Best part.
bleak breach
Our king
median tulip
I'm prepared to forgive a lot from an expansion that gave us Bwonsamdi and Jani
bleak breach
‘Now we take him home’ 😭😭😭
ionic fern
Now i gotta go re-watch Saurfang stuff.
toxic pewter
Bfa owned that’s true
ionic fern
Damn.
ionic fern
Imagine if they had put that much effort into making the Warcraft movie.
toxic pewter
lol
toxic pewter
Would’ve please apb
I mean conflict is the root of all drama. Can’t get around that
median tulip
When Anduin gave Saurfang the sword to use in the makgora against sylvanas was the point at which the factions ended their relevance forevermore
brittle owl
Imagine if they had put that much effort into making the Warcraft movie.
all the effort went into explaining that orc societies are woke
bleak breach
I agree
toxic pewter
They need another Warcraft film
lusty grotto
😬
brittle owl
what about us
toxic pewter
No
bleak breach
Hope something happens next xpac to do something tbh, atleast Sylvannas caused dramas#
brittle owl
do we need another warcraft movie?
bleak breach
Burn the tree
bleak breach
TBC
toxic pewter
lol
bleak breach
Would make a better tv series I think, movies cost too much. They could do a tv series with good CGI and cover an xpac each season
toxic pewter
Burn the tree
Which tree 🤔
sweet summit
Yggdrasil
brittle owl
Would make a better tv series I think, movies cost too much. They could do a tv ...
tv series cost way more in general
toxic pewter
Yeah the Warcraft series coming to Netflix will happen prob
brittle owl
but revenue is constant
bleak breach
Yep
brittle owl
whereas movies is a big sellout then nada
bleak breach
Don’t need big budget actors then though
toxic pewter
I should apply to write for it
toxic pewter
sweet summit
no you're just losing it
jagged pier
untold tangle
When we loose our current tier set bonus next raid, do we keep playing Into the Fray, or do we need the extra SB seconds from Heavy Repercussions? What about Bolster?
ionic fern
Damn, they did my man Saurfang dirty.
ionic fern
When we loose our current tier set bonus next raid, do we keep playing Into the ...
In m+ you play HR (without Bolster), in raids you play ITF.
Pretty much going back to S1 build, but you will more or less default into Spell Block, and can also run Thunderlords/Bloodborne.
untold tangle
Pretty much going back to S1 build, but you will more or less default into Spell...
Ah cool ok. I didn't play warrior in S1 so I don't know the difference. Thanks for clarifying
untold tangle
Ok they're updated, I didn't know. Thanks
ionic fern
Je, Nom did a quick job updating them.
warm plinth
Good morning fellow woyers
ionic fern
Good evening, Ghash.
You as active in all the Discords as you are here?
Seeing as you play 50 classes.
blazing condor
Monka
teal swift
Anyone have that weak aura
that checks if anyone in your party within like 100 yards
has battle shout
and if someone is missing it
you get tha big icon to show up?
blazing condor
I dont
ionic fern
Wago - search battleshout?
blazing condor
i just see my raidframes
warm plinth
You as active in all the Discords as you are here?
No, you guys are special.
All the other class servers are in this folder
karmic plinth
fantastic folder name
uneven river
What's the thoughts on prot next tier boys ? Started doing some tanking again as can't find decent tank for our group to push
pallid quiver
Garbage, unplayable
pallid quiver
I'm only ever 100% serious at all time
pallid quiver
Real talk, it'll be fine and strong
opaque quest
Dont worry you wont be taken over a BDK with legendary
uneven river
Lol
opaque quest
Bear didnt have a Legy this tier and i still wasnt taken for 23s
pallid quiver
That's some legend behavior right there. Shame I wasn't there to see it, though
warm plinth
Yeah, there's no way you're the DH in the image or anything
ionic fern
No, you guys are special.
ionic fern
Legit leak or nah?
I hope it is. I like foresty areas like that.
lavish sphinx
I kinda get Draenor vibes
ionic fern
What's the thoughts on prot next tier boys ? Started doing some tanking again as...
Every tank is..fine. 🙂
As usual, if your tank class is not #1 , the community percieves it as "trash".
Although that's not the case .
rich wyvern
I kinda get Draenor vibes
The jungle, the harpies and the barren red-rock area were giving me the same vibes
opaque quest
Unless you have 3.5k for a 20 youre shit in the eyes of a pug
lavish sphinx
I’m keen for another Metzen expac
opaque quest
Im sure metzen will change wow 
Remember that it wasnt just metzen before. It was also Ghostcrawler and he sure as shit wont come back
lavish sphinx
I’m sure Metzen’s had enough time to rough up the aesthetics at least and certainly to design end of expansion content leading into 12.0
opaque quest
Aesthetics arent everything. Danuser will write Daddy Issues into every character again
ionic fern
Just don't read the story.
I was surpirsed during SL when Sylvanas all of a sudden popped up in my quest line as a friendly character.
Apparently skipping all story lines/cinematics does this.
lavish sphinx
lavish sphinx
Why read when Nobbel will make a video about it
opaque quest
I watched his SL Video and just went wtf
rich wyvern
I watched his SL Video and just went wtf
Was also my reaction playing shadowlands so guess he got the vibe right
sick sentinel
kratos vs the hulk ut it remjnds me alot of some wow dude vs orc
hulk looks like typical orc male fantasy in this image
lavish sphinx
Kratos = if Garrosh were Human
vale escarp
Did Garrosh even dw a weapon?
blazing condor
that is just Kargath in Highmaul
ionic fern
Did Garrosh even dw a weapon?
vale escarp
Ok, so he stopped after getting dads Weapon
hazy bronze
obsidian rampart
Hi is there any news for prot war since the fix of crit for 2p ?
ionic fern
What news are you looking for?
We're not receiving any big changes outside of some Rallying nerfs and a new tier set.
bleak breach
Do anything for the ursine trink you reckon?
opaque quest
Is it just me or does Warrior need 4 Weapons at once too
sick sentinel
looks like his armor got burned to a crisp, somoneone left him in oven too long
opaque quest
looks like his armor got burned to a crisp, somoneone left him in oven too long
How dare you insult some of the coolest shoulders blizz ever made
blazing condor
mods are 
sick sentinel
i think hes a krazk head
teal swift
Nah he's definitelynotyogi321
sick sentinel
gets paid in crack if he spams his shitty link enough time
sick sentinel
be asmongold, doing a raid invite dude named "crack head"
surprise.jpg when raid fucks up
i mean like, i totally never saw THAT coming from a million miles away
strong forum
It's free content
pallid quiver
Honestly, it's a lot funnier if it stays there
sick sentinel
theres no way in fuck you can invite a dude who literally names himself a crackhead and then expect him not to act in said ways lmao
thats all im sayin
blazing condor
which proves the point
ionic fern
blazing condor
hes smart enough to know how to make content
ionic fern
Actually funny.
teal swift
Yeah it has 4 letter words that are considered a slur
And no one likes him, so no exception made
Unlike amongus
flat stratus
shell mortar
theres no way in fuck you can invite a dude who literally names himself a crackh...
Might sound wild, I know, but maybe he did think he'd be bad and maybe, just maybe, that's why he invited him, because it'd be funny
waxen frigate
When in doubt post your weird phishing links in this channel
BRO
teal swift
Free nitro dontcha know eh?
waxen frigate
I actually gave away free nitro for Christmas in the monk discord
Went through the moderators and all that
Had one of them post the link for me with an announcement that it was not a scam, hacked account, etc
People still panicked
daring marlin
scamazo
lusty tiger
@waxen frigate
waxen frigate
lusty tiger
It is sus
daring marlin
phishbrew
waxen frigate
It is sus
Yeah he admittedly posted it with cringe wording
But it resulted in like half a dozen other people also gifting nitro so that was cool
teal swift
blazing condor
not many games where actually getting a footpedal is common
lusty tiger
Been wanting a footpedal for a while
blazing condor
good thing i dont need one
teal swift
Been wanting a footpedal for a while
Great for PTT and Thunderclap gaming
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
I have my left foot pedal for blackout kick, right for rising sun kick, both together for spinning crane kick
blazing condor
yeah but you press it with your hand
blazing condor
??
you the type of guy to sound like he's driving a top-down car all raid encounter
blazing condor
never been in a single group where that works
how about if you actually have a sound to make just press the button
daring marlin
There's a lot of very stupid people with terrible mics I agree
PTT is garbage. Mute toggle>>>>>>>
lusty tiger
Ptt
My mic is next to my keyboard
It’s impossible to not hear
As well as it being nice if I’m eating in a call
lusty tiger
how about if you actually have a sound to make just press the button
Based
teal swift
never been in a single group where that works
I just mute like 16 raid members
Brainlets don't deserve to talk
Let's be real, during raids, how many people contribute anything of use vocally
blazing condor
for most guilds not even RLs do much
dusky canopy
I have been thinking about trying toggle mute but imagine I forget to toggle and I gaslight somebody at the top of my lungs for dying to the same thing after 450 pulls on sark
teal swift
Verbal clutter 
save the social shit for after raid kekw
dusky canopy
Lmfao
daring marlin
I have been thinking about trying toggle mute but imagine I forget to toggle and...
HAHAHA
teal swift
for most guilds not even RLs do much
Wdym they read the dbm count down list
teal swift
Raid leader reads dbm
Healing officer tries to make a cooldown chart, but forgets to enforce it so everything goes whenever
DPS officer is parsing 47 and not benching their boyfriend who's parsing 34
Tank officer is giga Chad and revels in playing the easiest role in raid
Some mage is malding that they got shade for clicking combust
waxen frigate
tank officer
Why the fuck would you need a tank officer
The tanks just exist in their own world that’s why it’s great
waxen frigate
You just put the boss in the right spot
Taunt swap
And shit talk the Dps in whispers in between pulls
blazing condor
And shit talk the Dps in whispers in between pulls
this was the most fun part about me progging CN
the sexual tension between the tanks
will they wont they
waxen frigate
As a tank you genuinely don’t give a fuck about the rest of what the raid is doing 99% of the time
You do your job in a vacuum
dusky canopy
As a tank you genuinely don’t give a fuck about the rest of what the raid is doi...
Me as arms too
waxen frigate
Nah as arms you have to know the Dps mechanic
Usually
And dodge shit
As a tank you just do tank things
What the rest of the raid does is rarely relevant to what you do
waxen cradle
Well at least if your a dps you could care 1% and bitch when you dont get PI
waxen frigate
But you need to do your job right
waxen cradle
so 1% of the time you might care
teal swift
Why the fuck would you need a tank officer
Because your off tank has been in the raid since bush was president
waxen frigate
offtank
teal swift
And puts the dent in president
waxen frigate
Nvm maybe you do need a tank officer
teal swift
Bruh, off tank = tank that isn't me
Idk wtf an off tank isn't supposed to be, I just make them main assist and me main tank
Let's call them mayonnaise
how
rich wyvern
Nah as arms you have to know the Dps mechanic
Mfw our arms asks “so what do I do with bomb” like 4 hours in to sark prog
waxen frigate
To be fair
waxen frigate
Nah that’s OC
livid oasis
Nah that’s OC
I was flipping bricks for Mansa Musa before y'all even became a type 1 civilization
@waxen frigate use the word ''usurp'' for OCs, doesn't get enough traction
livid oasis
good OC btw
modern brook
"mythic raid is hard" - him probably
daring marlin
"mythic raid is hard" - him probably
lol
modern brook
is that a valorant pfp
waxen frigate
Is that a goofy toons pfp??!
blazing condor
is that a penguin pfp
waxen frigate
Yeah
jagged pier
Yep
rich wyvern
Ass ault
daring marlin
No it isn’t
We played League. Yes it is. lol
jagged pier
🧑🚀 🔫 🧑🚀 always has been
lusty tiger
Guil is toxic, but I’d kick his ass
cerulean tusk
Now, I have done arms sword and board to death, anyone got something stupid I can do as prot?
blazing condor
...
When did prot turn toxic, where is Yogi?
daring marlin
Guil is toxic, but I’d kick his ass
uneven mason
Brown name toxicity
ashen coral
Hello, is this change for ignore pain still active for the future patch ?
If yes, what will be the cap for ignore pain then ?
uneven mason
That looks like 30% of our health, that's quite the nerf?
tardy sequoia
Guys what is the keys level required for getting to 3000? Having done 20s on both tyrannical and fortified or more?
ashen coral
That looks like 30% of our health, that's quite the nerf?
I understood it as each use of ip gives you 30% of shield
If it's true it is not a nerf at all
For example I would get 270k ignore pain with my 900k hp prot war while i get 60k per ignore pain currently
toxic pewter
Ignore pain cap has been 30% of our max hp for a while now
lusty tiger
to me it reads like it is talking about the cap
blazing condor
Guys what is the keys level required for getting to 3000? Having done 20s on bot...
heres the breakdown of someone with 3k
ashen coral
Ignore pain cap has been 30% of our max hp for a while now
Oh so it's just the wording which changed ?
toxic pewter
Yeah just prob wording change
modern brook
It's a tool tip change
uneven mason
to me it reads like it is talking about the cap
The tooltip is for each cast though
toxic pewter
Or how they calculate it in the back end..
modern brook
It's reflecting that the total possible amount is 30% max health
uneven mason
Ok so just clarification
modern brook
Rather than the per cast value it showed vefore
ashen coral
Only 10.2 change is nerf to rallying cry for us
Actually I also saw a buff for bitter immunity
toxic pewter
Na
lusty tiger
"buff" lol
uneven mason
Pointless change
toxic pewter
If they let it clear bleeds that would be one thing..
ashen coral
I found this talent useful in underrot
toxic pewter
Meh
uneven mason
I guess if not dwarf
cerulean tusk
Hey - I do like to see them gradually putting 2min CDs on the reset after boss encounter thing
uneven mason
But why wouldn't we be dwarf
cerulean tusk
It should be absolute everything - but I take it
toxic pewter
I tried playing dwarf but had to race change again
Just can’t deal with weapon clipping
toxic pewter
Classic dwarf model was also much better when they redid races it sort of got worse for me their animations and stuff
daring marlin
@lusty tiger haha poverty mic
lusty tiger
bro when we talking on comms
toxic pewter
Even certain axes and maces clip but yeah I gotta use my thunderfury
uneven mason
Sounds like a you problem
toxic pewter
Just can’t deal with the clipping
uneven mason
Using an uglyass model
toxic pewter
Na
daring marlin
jerree shaking
uneven mason
By Midwest accent, do you mean Hicksville Midwest or Chicago
Because they're very distinct
lusty tiger
idk i dont live in the midwest
toxic pewter
Plus I was alliance on area 52 and just was a ghost town everywhere 
waxen frigate
idk i dont live in the midwest
Ya but are u emo
lusty tiger
Ya but are u emo
nah im ome
lusty tiger
X fkn D
uneven mason
Like someone from DeKalb sounds like they're Canadian, while Chicago/Detroit have a strong city accent, like new York but we can pronounce r sounds
toxic pewter
lusty tiger
like nerd midwest
uneven mason
Idk that one, must be a zoomer thing
lusty tiger
ghash said his voice was beautiful
uneven mason
Does he have dulcet tones?
lusty tiger
supposedly
all I heard was
HoW dId YoU mIsS tHaT rOoT
HOW DID WE LOSE TO THOSE PUNKS!
uneven mason
Like screech?
lusty tiger
MY CONTROLLER GOT UNPLUGGED MID GAME AND THE CONTROLLER SETTINGS POPPED UP!
uneven mason
Also who the shit plays wow on a controller
strong forum
jeree
lusty tiger
hi nome
toxic pewter
Most people want wow to come to consoles as far as I know
It’s always being talked about
uneven mason
Most people want wow to come to consoles as far as I know
That's a hot take
toxic pewter
No it’s well documented
lusty tiger
Also who the shit plays wow on a controller
we were playing league both on keyboard and mouse
toxic pewter
There’s been talk of console wow for years now
uneven mason
Sounds like a you problem
strong forum
i was answering ikari
uneven mason
hallowed be thy name
strong forum
but hi jeree
uneven mason
Why don't we have a "hey warriors" emoji
lusty tiger
toxic pewter
strong forum
its right there
lusty tiger
still to this day
strong forum
no thats fury
lusty tiger
we have no shield slam emoji
uneven mason
That aetbonus for arms though
strong forum
is super fun ye
toxic pewter
Why is everyone saying arms is bad in 10.2
strong forum
arms plays real nice next patch if you ask me
uneven mason
Might stick as DPS so I can chain execute thunderclap
strong forum
Why is everyone saying arms is bad in 10.2
cuz EVERY DPS EVER is dooming
toxic pewter
I see
strong forum
like when is arms or fury ever not "omg we all suck next patch"
or any mage spec
or boomkin
or warlock
or rogue
toxic pewter
Yeah damn that’s undeniably true
uneven mason
Like the cycle created by that set bonus fucking gold
uneven mason
Rend triggers sudden death, execute triggers thinderclap
strong forum
arms
uneven mason
strong forum
is fun
toxic pewter
Yah I found it fun also
uneven mason
havent played arms since s4 bfa
Execute applys a bleed that stacks on itself
final mist
Why is everyone saying arms is bad in 10.2
Mathematically it might be fine, it just doesn't mechanically.play well
nimble skiff
Just asking for reference; do you just do normal rotation when off tanking until you need to taunt for mechanics in raid
toxic pewter
How are the raid bosses. Are they add fights or more single targets
uneven mason
Just asking for reference; do you just do normal rotation when off tanking until...
Deal damage always
final mist
Just asking for reference; do you just do normal rotation when off tanking until...
Yeah, there's no difference
nimble skiff
Shield slam/tclap......... I don't remember if revenge procs when not getting hit
toxic pewter
Mathematically it might be fine, it just doesn't mechanically.play well
I thought it was fun when I played
daring marlin
jeree still shaking I see
uneven mason
Shield slam/tclap......... I don't remember if revenge procs when not getting hi...
Revenge is usable without the proc
daring marlin
I'd nail down what he sounds like but he sounded like he was talking through a tin can in an airplane bathroom
icy citrus
So squad, i didnt follow the stuff about S3. Are we back in the business or VDH will dominate in m+?
lusty tiger
jeree still shaking I see
send us a audio clip of you talking about cheese curds
nimble skiff
I reached my end of season goals last night so I might start tanking baby keys tonight and learn to tank in a trial by fire.
In the event my guild has a tank out for a night I want to be ready to pick up the role just in case
uneven mason
So squad, i didnt follow the stuff about S3. Are we back in the business or VDH ...
We were never out?
lusty tiger
nobody can predict m+ meta
sounds like what someone who knows what the m+ meta is going to be, would say
strong forum
with VDH being tiny bit ahead cuz of infinite sigils and bear being behind cuz people think its dogshit now
nimble skiff
Are you a tank? Yes? You're the meta pick
uneven mason
I predict whatever tank provides the missing buff that benefits the DPS meta will become meta
toxic pewter
5leg gonna be meta
uneven mason
Betting it's not battleshout
icy citrus
If we assume that Havoc will pop in every serious group, shouldnt then Prot buff be smething that could be smarter than 2 dhs in group?
daring marlin
also jeree ghash didn't say that
uneven mason
Although rogue hdh meta, maybe mistweaver and pwar
daring marlin
buffoon
final mist
I thought it was fun when I played
TL;DR too much rage, not enough ways to dump it all, feelsbad because Arms' whole thing is supposed to be about careful rage generation/expenditure, I.E. just taking IP out and not changing anything else for that is
icy citrus
Although rogue hdh meta, maybe mistweaver and pwar
exactly
strong forum
TL;DR too much rage, not enough ways to dump it all, feelsbad because Arms' whol...
Nioll has been cooking...
collateral dmg fob
uneven mason
also jeree ghash didn't say that
C'mon now guill no need to pick on jeree
strong forum
WW mega spam
final mist
nobody can predict m+ meta
M+ meta is dumb and stupid anyways for 99.9% of people and I hate this talk
uneven mason
M+ meta is dumb and stupid anyways for 99.9% of people and I hate this talk
Sal what % of vers should I have
final mist
"What tank should I play" only matters if you're top 0.1% pushing extremely high keys (and even then it hardly matters), and if you're asking the question, you are clearly not at that level where the nuances of class choice matters, so who cares what you play
icy citrus
"What tank should I play" only matters if you're top 0.1% pushing extremely high...
interesting
final mist
Sal what % of vers should I have
GuyThrownFromWindow.meme
strong forum
"What tank should I play" only matters if you're top 0.1% pushing extremely high...
"pls think for me"
while i do understand that people want insight from more knowledgable players
the whole "meta" thing is irrelevant outside of perpetuating some false narrative
icy citrus
there is too much use of ''meta'' word here
strong forum
the only thing the whole community is doing by chasing meta
is hurting themselves
because theyre creating a problem of not being invited to keys when they play what they want
toxic pewter
Honestly if you dont have all 6 max level tanks wat u even doin anyway
uneven mason
GuyThrownFromWindow.meme
There's a 3.5 d&d spell called defenestrating orb, sorry just had that remind me
final mist
Nish 2004 called
toxic pewter
Y’all never meta fucking girl before
final mist
They want you to wake up and touch grass, that joke is old and your lawn needs to be cut
waxen frigate
I will plant the seeds of terror in your psyche and tend to them for months only to reap them when you’re least prepared. Forget not with whom you trifle, for He may return with a vengeance.
uneven mason
They want you to wake up and touch grass, that joke is old and your lawn needs t...
Welcome to skyhold, aka boomer central
final mist
Oh I know its boomer central, y'all still remember me for some reason
Idk why, I'm forgettable
lusty tiger
also jeree ghash didn't say that
he messaged this channel that he thought your voice was nice
strong forum
Oh I know its boomer central, y'all still remember me for some reason
when you never leave you never forget
uneven mason
Zoomers all play edgeboi DK and vdh or bishonen hammer tossers
final mist
That's kinda poetic nom ngl
lusty tiger
@daring marlin #protection message
blazing condor
Zoomers all play edgeboi DK and vdh or bishonen hammer tossers
not true i am a zoomer and i dont do that
uneven mason
not true i am a zoomer and i dont do that
Didn't we determine you're old as dirt in dog years?
toxic pewter
Is there somethin between zoomer and boomer
final mist
Millennials
uneven mason
Millennials
☝️
toxic pewter
Aren’t zoomers unironically calling millennials boomers though
strong forum
yes
lusty tiger
theres also gen x
toxic pewter
Like zoomers so dumb they got their generations all wrong
uneven mason
Zoomers call anyone over 25 a boomer
toxic pewter
Right
icy citrus
being in the business for me for example means living trough the most efficient routes in the high level dungeon and doing enough damage as the tank. few tanks can do that every season and my question is are we going to be one of them? no need for meta word. and question is for you who do tons of hours of ptr and are into stuff so we can get some inside info ahead before hitting the key wall with squishy spec..
blazing condor
anyone who can't understand how to set up a zoom call is a boomer
uneven mason
They forgot GenX and genz
toxic pewter
What the age cut off
strong forum
being in the business for me for example means living trough the most efficient ...
every tank can do that tho
thats the funny thing
final mist
There's also Gen X in between Boomers and millennials
strong forum
tanks arent so out of whack that you cant do X
the only tank who COULD was bear this season
but thats getting recktified next patch
daring marlin
<@145702969990578178> https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1488979418...
Yeah, where'd he say beautiful
uneven mason
being in the business for me for example means living trough the most efficient ...
None of the tanks are squishy
strong forum
cuz their infinite rage talent is being fixed
daring marlin
weirdo!
toxic pewter
Rather die a zoomer than live long enough to enough to see myself become boomer
lusty tiger
Yeah, where'd he say beautiful
midwest*
final mist
No class or spec cannot do 20s, bare minimum
daring marlin
Rather die a zoomer than live long enough to enough to see myself become boomer
You're too old to be a zoomer
strong forum
every tank can perform on +30s
daring marlin
gramps
strong forum
every single one
final mist
^
lusty tiger
apb is a boomer
uneven mason
Isn't DPS the holdout this season
toxic pewter
I did start unironically going bald at 16
strong forum
wdym by holdout
final mist
He's asking if the thing stopped people from going higher is DPS lacking
uneven mason
Damage being the hurdle to push higher
strong forum
nah its surv
always is surv
the only dungeon where youre capped by DPS
is VP
and maybe NL
daring marlin
hence aug being broken
final mist
Stars
strong forum
because you cant gain time anywhere
by just "pulling bigger"
your biggest walls
are bosses
lusty tiger
right
strong forum
last one namely
lusty tiger
some rng too
daring marlin
god fuck that guy lmao
lusty tiger
where the star spawns
daring marlin
assad worst boss ever
strong forum
VP doesnt have the luxury of FH where you can combine 139 pulls onto 1
and pull 4 packs ontop of bosses to gain time
uneven mason
Rally
uneven mason
icy citrus
every tank can perform on +30s
brew this season?
strong forum
yes even brew
lusty tiger
good ol' cata dungeons
bad lol cata shmungens
daring marlin
Was it terrible?
strong forum
basically a whole new dungeon
lusty tiger
Was it terrible?
nah was good
strong forum
basically the whole issue that pushers are portraying is
uneven mason
Imagine if people just played the game
final mist
That too
strong forum
the best players arent gonna play "off-meta" if their goal is world ranking
uneven mason
Ikr
strong forum
so this perpetuates that the only people who do end up pushing to the highest levels with X tank, are the one tricks
who might not be as good as the best players
so therefor ranking on some tanks appear lower than theoretically possible
which skews the picture
uneven mason
I Play because I run a dwarf Chad porn site on the side and need to farm xmogs
toxic pewter
A lot of people consider what is most op is the most fun
strong forum
yes and while i dont agree with that, i can understand it
nimble skiff
Am I better off going HR over in the fray to begin tanking for more survivability while learning?
strong forum
technically not needed if you just mash SB and Last stand on CD
final mist
And viewers aren't bright, so they heard Max or Lightee or the one druid dude whose name I forget or whomever talking about "yeah X is gonna be bad this season" and think "oh this information totally applies to me, a person who has never done a key higher than a +16 a day in my life"
nimble skiff
Or baby keys don't care go ITF
strong forum
current season
uneven mason
so therefor ranking on some tanks appear lower than theoretically possible
Sample bias
strong forum
you just always go ITF
strong forum
Sample bias
yea
uneven mason
#statistics
strong forum
+13 need aug
uneven mason
The best math
uneven mason
In a +16 crest farm
daring marlin
final mist
"Pushing +5, meta comp only" and then the druid tank walks into Neltharus, pulls the first two mobs, dies because they didn't press Ironfur, types "shit healer gg" and leaves
Like ok
strong forum
people are only taking like 10x the dmg in a 32 compare to my 13, i need that aug
daring marlin
LMAO
uneven mason
"Pushing +5, meta comp only" and then the druid tank walks into Neltharus, pulls...
This is why I can't do anything but tank
toxic pewter
Still don’t understand why they are not nerfing aug into the ground 🤔
daring marlin
apb wat
toxic pewter
To the ground I say
final mist
You can
strong forum
its a support spec
final mist
By removing the spec
strong forum
a support will always be more useful than a pure DPS
toxic pewter
I guess heavy nerf then
lusty tiger
you actually can change aug
toxic pewter
Cuz it’s about to be mandatory again
strong forum
the only time they can balance aug for m+
is by removing them buffing healers and tanks
and only buff DPS
lusty tiger
buff tanks and healers by 15% and make aug buffs not apply to tanks and healers
daring marlin
yeeeeep
lusty tiger
wow nome
uneven mason
Last time I was on the rshm I had a bdk pull first 4 packs in UR die with full rp and call me shit...0 deathstikes but 3 bloodboils
toxic pewter
Have they not learned anything from this literal worst season of all time so far
cerulean tusk
As a tank, I cant say I hate it
strong forum
its awesome for the tank cuz yey fun
daring marlin
tanks and healers don't need buffs, just remove the aug buffing them
final mist
Have they not learned anything from this literal worst season of all time so far
Blizzard is as allergic to learning from their mistakes as they are to
Well
You saw the lawsuits
lusty tiger
tanks and healers don't need buffs, just remove the aug buffing them
):
buff em
power creep fun
daring marlin
Shouldn't be doing keys that high bro
lusty tiger
AND BRING BACK BANNER
uneven mason
tanks and healers don't need buffs, just remove the aug buffing them
Ngl, this is the way
toxic pewter
New xpac bringing couple more support specs anyway I guess one more patch ok
final mist
I'm still on my "prot warrior should be allowed to use a 2h and a shield" train
icy citrus
This Sal constantly repeating the argument of low key scenarios 😅 . I am asking if i will live above +25 keys lets say with below average healer in a pug on a efficient route if played as good as it can be.
daring marlin
I'm still on my "prot warrior should be allowed to use a 2h and a shield" train
100%
strong forum
yes
daring marlin
Warrior should just be 2H the class
final mist
This Sal constantly repeating the argument of low key scenarios 😅 . I am asking...
This sal has also repeated constantly that yes, you will
strong forum
you dont need a healer for that epidemic
daring marlin
1h weapons are lame
strong forum
like
the reality is
in ultra keys
healers dont rly heal tanks
outside of specific scenarios
final mist
Class choice is infinitely less important compared to just knowing what your spec does and how it works with the dungeon you're doing
strong forum
you get aoe healing, you get trickle healing
final mist
^
strong forum
so aslong as thats a given and your DPS CC/interrupt what they should
youll be just fine
final mist
That's why healers have been bitching all expac about having nothing to do
strong forum
on any tank
waxen frigate
Prob closer to a 23/22 with aug
daring marlin
Ah, that's what I was wondering.
waxen frigate
Aug alone is at least 3 key levels honestly
strong forum
2-3 ye
lusty tiger
aug crinj
strong forum
throw in the changed key scaling
like i did a 24 pre-scaling nerf and legit my healer didnt touch me
outside of 2-3 wogs cuz they were free and to be used somewhere
waxen frigate
throw in the changed key scaling
Yeah that’s why I’m estimating the gap a bit larger than you did
We also have stronger tier sets across the board
uneven mason
Remember when we had to worry about k values because we needed to know how fucked we were
final mist
Remember when we had to worry about k values because we needed to know how fucke...
Man that brings me back
Remember when Block was hard 30/60
👴
uneven mason
Man that brings me back
At least we had 👢🍵👏
strong forum
in legion bootyclap wasnt a thing
uneven mason
Bfa
strong forum
yeah but bfa black wasnt 30/60
daring marlin
WCM is gonna own
uneven mason
Yup
strong forum
xdd
daring marlin
I love the courtyard
final mist
Yeah I'm talking about like
uneven mason
thats why we were so good
Unless they had rocks
final mist
Legion and the great Ye Olde
strong forum
or wrenches
final mist
I remember seeing the block increase trait for the first time and just
daring marlin
motherlode is ass and I do not care
strong forum
"throw wrench" the scariest ability in wow history
uneven mason
Remember when Block was hard 30/60
Remember when we had 1 roll combat tables
final mist
Oh brother don't get me started
strong forum
ML was insanely fun in s4
blazing condor
motherlode had a bad design
daring marlin
S4 it was fine
final mist
"Hang on let me equip this and run my defensive stat macro to see how close I am to cap"
uneven mason
Warriors ruined the single roll combat table in cata
daring marlin
Death skips before S4 are lame
uneven mason
Because we could hit 100% critical block
cerulean tusk
100%, 100% uptime? Dang
blazing condor
ML was just "clear everything before 1st boss - skip - go out and respec for magic damage intake - skip - kill last boss
toxic pewter
Is ignore pain granting the new tier set more often actually on purpose or what the deal with that. Do we actually like how this works
modern brook
thats why we were so good
hmmm pretty sure it was ip off the gcd
uneven mason
100%, 100% uptime? Dang
Didn't even need shield block, we were 100% unhittable
final mist
I remember watching madlads on Argus come up with a turtleshell mastery set that made it so you took literally zero damage from scythe swings
Like crabadin but somehow more
uneven mason
I remember watching madlads on Argus come up with a turtleshell mastery set that...
20million blocks 
final mist
400mil crit blocks on Aggramar
uneven mason
Soloing the combo
modern brook
20million blocks <:gladge:963970137701109820>
final mist
"Okay so I'm gonna tank the boss and the combo"
"Wait, what do I do then?"
"You press Mass Grip"
"Oh god"
uneven mason
78% uptime on demo shout
strong forum
hmmm pretty sure it was ip off the gcd
it was the block rework in 8.0 coupled with 8.1 ability to block ranged phyiscal attacks
- having good azerite traits
modern brook
it was the block rework in 8.0 coupled with 8.1 ability to block ranged phyiscal...
im just memeing sorry i dont want to work 😦
strong forum
IP being off GCD was a nice dps gain
uneven mason
It was big QOL
strong forum
oh yeah absolutely
like getting to spend on average 160 more globals on buttons per dungeon
instead of on IP
is quite something
uneven mason
Warriors were like playing soccer with a brick in 8.0
Don't fuckup your block rotation
Cover those gaps with sw
mellow bridge
it was the block rework in 8.0 coupled with 8.1 ability to block ranged phyiscal...
that was 8.0.5 i think?
the ranged attack block
modern brook
nah it was s2
mellow bridge
huh
mellow bridge
mellow bridge
but 8.1 happened during s1 no?
sounds weird to me tbh
but has been so long ago idr
uneven mason
Ngl though fighting tooth and nail to get a tank spot in mythic when "prot is shit" then just not taking damage was
mellow bridge
and i was pretty casual 🤷♂️
strong forum
Ngl though fighting tooth and nail to get a tank spot in mythic when "prot is sh...
yeah
modern brook
but 8.1 happened during s1 no?
i remember as s2 starting with 8.1 ngl
uneven mason
S2 was 8.1.5
strong forum
i remember prot getting their block rework during s1
and getting bastion of might during s1
but late s1
modern brook
was their a mini raid between uldir and battle?
strong forum
no
it was between bod and ep
which came with 8.1.5 in march
bod released in january
modern brook
which came with 8.1.5 in march
season 1 covered two raids?
zealous willow
any1 testing how prot warr feels in ptr ?
modern brook
thats wild
strong forum
pwar feels the exact same
uneven mason
any1 testing how prot warr feels in ptr ?
The same
strong forum
you just get 14% DR with 80% uptime, but you cant tell me seriously that you can "feel" that
modern brook
I remember the change happening in BoD thats why i was saying s2
zealous willow
its mid tier or lower ?
uneven mason
taking 14% less of 0 is still 0
Shit set bonus
uneven mason
its mid tier or lower ?
Since you might be serious, all the tanks are really close and have been all expansion
zealous willow
vdh is op no ?
strong forum
its not
uneven mason
vdh is op no ?
No
strong forum
its really good, but not OP
strong forum
no
uneven mason
They've been on the high end of damage all xpac
strong forum
its not OP
OP would be doing MASSIVE amounts more
not tiny bits more
legit if they touch the utility sigils of VDH
its a literal 6 head race
between tanks
uneven mason
Imagine having a large source of your defense come from leech and doing low damage
strong forum
like as of right now, s3 looks to be LITERALLY that every single tank can be in the top 6
theres not a single tank that stands out in any particular way
except VDHs aoe stops
modern brook
does arms and fury still look like ass?
strong forum
thats it
modern brook
cause prot looks better when thats true
strong forum
from what ive played
arms is fun af
thats all i care about
DPS players always doom
modern brook
blord owns
strong forum
never trust their words
ever
look at fuckign rogues
crying about havocs
when rogue does more dmg
modern brook
sweats in yellow
modern brook
honestly rogue reworks are hype af
and anoyne complaiing is soft and doesnt like the clss to begin with
zealous willow
is it me or they cant come with cool tier set bonuses anymore
modern brook
ive seen people complain that they moved damage out of backstab ??????
that'd be like complaining devestator doesnt do enough
strong forum
idk what it is
but rogue is insanely powerful
and yet theyre complaining about havoc doing dmg
modern brook
is it me or they cant come with cool tier set bonuses anymore
IDK if it was only for s1 but they actively wanted to avoid making warping teir set bonuses to avoid forcing certain decisions on players
strong forum
s1 was planned to be lame, because we just got talent builds
modern brook
and yet theyre complaining about havoc doing dmg
Realz only has so much time, maybe they're just sad they're not getting mroe of it 🤷♂️
strong forum
idk
modern brook
considering assassinations been the same spec for uhhh 12 years or so now, i can see it
strong forum
theyre getting too used to being able to flame to the dev directly
daring marlin
boostedfango
modern brook
inb4 gilf yellow hates
zealous willow
is the new raid easy like last tier
modern brook
V I N D I C A T I O N
strong forum
am i coping?
modern brook
pwar absolutely DEMOLISHED s1
like did more dps than dps specs
just struggled with surviving if u were ass
strong forum
cuz i distinctly remember quitting pushing keys and saying "just as pwar has gotten good i quit pushing"
zealous willow
pwarr in bfa was doing more dps then dps in overalls
modern brook
then they did the ip oGCD and allowed us to block ranged and suddenly "we were the best op spec poor blood dk"
👢🍵👏 was insane the whole expansion
blazing condor
cuz i distinctly remember quitting pushing keys and saying "just as pwar has got...
i remember reading on skyhold that the spec was kinda ass cus IP off gcd / couldnt block ranged
and bdk was the move
zealous willow
i miss shadowlands warr playstyle , i loved banner rage mini game and big executes
lusty tiger
^
daring marlin
demo uptime was sick
zealous willow
df warr feels like druid dull
daring marlin
ip on gcd just felt like shit
strong forum
i remember reading on skyhold that the spec was kinda ass cus IP off gcd / could...
i played pwar all of s1 and pushed keys
right up there with the big boys
did like top 50 world keys
whilst everybody was sniffing BDK butts
waxen frigate
did like top 50 world keys
Washed
strong forum
but i got burned out so hard
strong forum
that i refused to push keys since then
modern brook
i mean s1 pushing must've been toxic
that was before all the stupid azerite systems became bareable
strong forum
it controlled my entire brain
raiding + pushing keys
same happened when i was RL in SL
i thought all week about raiding and yada yada
shit broke me to the point of despising wow
zealous willow
well godly proff system in df keeps me in the game
i craft get rich and when i want to play i will in future
strong forum
i couldnt give less fucks about currency
never have
never will
i just buy token whenever i need to get rid of that arbitrary wall barring me from playing what i wanna play
lusty tiger
💯
blazing condor
check ur income privilege
zealous willow
i found fun in crafting system im burned from m+
uneven mason
i thought all week about raiding and yada yada
I got written up because I was going over parses at work seeing who our weak links were for Magtheridon
kindred laurel
Hey ya'll, there's a pretty substantial chance I have to swap to tank for my guild in 10.2. I'm having an absolute blast on Prot warrior and it's definately my prefered tank, but I can't really find a lot of information on how Prot is doing in Raid in 10.2. Am I setting myself up to have a really hard 10.2, or does Prot feel pretty good?
strong forum
raid is never "really hard" if your guild doesnt suck
uneven mason
We feel amazing
strong forum
raiding is always easy for tanks
the only time shit is not "easy" is when a boss is exceedingly working against our weakness
uneven mason
Like a freshly shaven ass on silk sheets
daring marlin
strong forum
like zskarn and experiments this time around, which is usually rare
daring marlin
The chad Nomeratur
oblique garnet
Hey ya'll, there's a pretty substantial chance I have to swap to tank for my gui...
Prot good dps war bad 
kindred laurel
My guild isn't bad, per say, but they're... You know. They try their best.
oblique garnet
Hard to tell where tanks are standing atm when it comes to tuning
strong forum
tank choice doesnt matter
the lower world rank you are, the less tank choice matters
oblique garnet
But yeah pretty much what nome said
lusty tiger
I got written up because I was going over parses at work seeing who our weak lin...
WTF
kindred laurel
We aren't even top 50 on our realm, we went 8/9M this tier
real fossil
tank choice doesnt matter
perceived meta radically changes your ability to get invited to pug groups
it matters a lot from a sociology perspective, not an ability to do key perspective
left basalt
I'm assuming at some point there will be another pinned post with gearing list, at least trinkets maybe like last season? @strong forum also thank you 🙂
lusty tiger
Back in 07 mags was serious shit
getting written up for that is so cringe
real fossil
majority of players pug into groups and your life is radically different if you play a class color that is seen in youtube videos
uneven mason
it matters a lot from a sociology perspective, not an ability to do key perspect...
We had this discussion about an hour ago
modern brook
I'm assuming at some point there will be another pinned post with gearing list, ...
I imagine this will pretty much just be "ilvl+sim it" again
strong forum
I'm assuming at some point there will be another pinned post with gearing list, ...
ill write up something when we're close to launch ig
real fossil
We had this discussion about an hour ago
damn, i had to look at bad screen for a bit