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lusty tiger
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I can't say I do

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real

toxic pewter
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I do not agree with the premise of this image

uneven mason
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Hamster dance wasn't a meme, it was a advancement of internet culture

toxic pewter
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right that is what memes used to mean

uneven mason
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Wat

toxic pewter
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now they have become a detriment to not only the internet but humanity itself

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shakes head dejectedly

cinder storm
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We flew too close to the sun

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We deserve this

toxic pewter
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yep

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we have lost our way

lusty tiger
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2023 isnt the scifi world apb was hoping for

toxic pewter
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memes used to lift people up

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now they tear people down

lusty tiger
cinder storm
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They promised flying cars and we have tiktok instead critcake

uneven mason
tender cove
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so ehm... Was middle of dungeon yesterday and power went out. It lasted for almost 20 hours...
Now im inside an m+ that is clitched.

toxic pewter
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memes are the symptoms of the illness

tender cove
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there is no timer, there is no way to exit the dungeon and I disconnect if i try to heartstone, which doesnt even go on cd

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how to get out?

uneven mason
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Put in a ticket

cinder storm
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Just reset your character

tender cove
toxic pewter
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make a group and put it into group finder then leave the group see if that works

sweet summit
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hwarethstone?

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hearthstone?

waxen frigate
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Apb you’re a detriment to DN

tender cove
cinder storm
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There's a service in bnet they tp you to a city or something

tender cove
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i just get loading screen and DC

uneven mason
waxen frigate
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I literally do this regularly

sweet summit
cinder storm
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The I'm stuck onii chan service

waxen frigate
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I log out in keys all the time

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Or do I’m stuck

tender cove
waxen frigate
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I’m illiterate please be patient my dog is translating for me

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(His name is jeree)

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(He’s my little puppy)

tender cove
lusty tiger
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🌭

tender cove
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tthey even removed the door for me

toxic pewter
lusty tiger
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thats the only dog i have for u nish

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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You’re my dawg bro. I’m ride or die for you. I’d smoke shit out of a glass pipe and blow the lord’s bubbles with you.

cinder storm
tender cove
sweet summit
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i linked it

strong forum
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guys

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i found the utility APB wants

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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i want it

strong forum
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its a utility belt

lusty tiger
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IT

toxic pewter
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LOL i can be like batman

cinder storm
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Or superman

sweet summit
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sodaz is alread y batman u have to pick someone else

lusty tiger
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or inspector gadget

uneven mason
toxic pewter
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I won't lie I really cannot believe we did not get any blue text this upcoming patch

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I really thought we would get like at least 1 or 2 lines

sweet summit
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17 lines 20% slam buff

toxic pewter
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yes

waxen frigate
waxen frigate
sick sentinel
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Just you wait until you cast a spell and i have a card in hand to discard!

waxen frigate
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Is there a doom-related CCG or has it had any crossovers with others?

sick sentinel
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uhhhhhhh good question

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to my knowledge no

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the closest thing they had is doom rpg

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turn based at least and simple math

waxen frigate
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Can you look into it for me? I don’t have as many Doom-related resources as you but I am curious

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Even if it’s not a game per se I wonder if there’s ever been any sort of Doom trading cards

sick sentinel
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doom is you don't need card games to play it cuz its runs on a god damn toaster

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and imp spawns in does imp things, every, single, time.

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im honestly like 95% sure that there is no doom CCG/TCG

uneven mason
vocal flame
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So I pretty much skipped this season. Is the same currency going to be used to convert gear into tier? I have a bunch left from season 1

toxic pewter
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nah gonna be new currency, similar system though

vocal flame
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Cause I logged on for the first time in months last week and it let me used the same stuff from season 1 to make my season 2 raid gear

toxic pewter
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can convert gear into tier starting week 1 and then get another charge every 2 weeks once season 3 starts

vocal flame
toxic pewter
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yah I understand you were able to convert season 1 and 2 gear and can still do that even.. but for season 3 tier and stuff theres a brand new set of charges

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and will only get 1 charge every 2 weeks starting on week 1 this time though, which is quicker than in past seasons

vocal flame
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Ahh ok makes sense now. You will be able to do it over time so it’s the same for everyone?

toxic pewter
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ya

vocal flame
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Cool thanks for the info

toxic pewter
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no prob

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welcome back

vocal flame
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Ty!

sick sentinel
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doom board game

waxen frigate
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Me when apb keeps yapping

sick sentinel
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i asked around someone mentioned it

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is diablo 1 better than diablo 2 or 3 or other diablo

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i never tried it only ever saw videos and watched a stream or 2 of it

waxen frigate
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Diablo 2 is generally considered bis

toxic pewter
waxen frigate
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Heh. Your worst nightmare, bucko

toxic pewter
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should uninstall tiktok immediately

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very dangerous cybersecurity situation with that 'app'

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same with discord and reddit also tbh

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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I was already literally in China wirh this phone

lusty tiger
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Dam

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So you brought Covid to the US?

waxen frigate
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Yes

lusty tiger
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Nice

toxic pewter
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I know where I stand at least

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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the right side of history

lusty tiger
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You’re still on discord aren’t you?

toxic pewter
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I do but it is in a sort of protest-type way

lusty tiger
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Truuuu

toxic pewter
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like 'under durress'

lusty tiger
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Right

toxic pewter
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yes

waxen frigate
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@toxic pewter I’ve seen the Magna Carta. I’ve seen the eye of Hora. I was flipping bricks for Mansa Musa before your ancestors were even a type 1 civilization. I’ll kill you you stupid piece of shit

toxic pewter
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i was using it before they sold out to the ccp also

mighty valley
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i don't really feel any better about google and amazon knowing everything about me at all times, we lost this war

waxen frigate
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I’ll choke you out with my moschino gloves on. The last thing you’ll ever see is gonna be the price tag, then the archangels will carry you away to eternal damnation.

toxic pewter
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lol you speak as if you have a clue about such things

waxen frigate
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This shit ain’t nothing to me man

toxic pewter
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you are as weak as you are ignorant

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each more compounding than the last

mighty valley
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are we roleplaying now

waxen frigate
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I was throwing diamonds at the strip clubs at the pyramids

mighty valley
lusty tiger
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What is a moschino glove

waxen frigate
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Along with their exorbitant price tag

lusty tiger
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(:

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I have never once considered buying gloves

toxic pewter
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lol price tag

waxen frigate
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The difference between you and me apb is I don’t give a fuck if I go blind because I don’t even need to see the price tag

lusty tiger
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Cap

waxen frigate
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Reach for my neck and you’ll be turned into an example

toxic pewter
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Right, people like you do not cherish that which is the most precious

waxen frigate
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I’ll destroy your entire quadrant

toxic pewter
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You want only chaos

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and you do not care how you achieve it

toxic pewter
# mighty valley why

if you have to ask this question then you are further gone than even I can hope to bring you back from

lusty tiger
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Pwar LARPing Con when?

mighty valley
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i cast LIGHTNING BOLT

waxen frigate
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We’re gonna be smoking symbiotes

toxic pewter
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You have become so deluded that you yourself do not know order from chaos, up from down, left from right. Only truth can reorient you, but you do not care for such a thing.

lusty tiger
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Smokin dung beetle

waxen frigate
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Because I don’t give a shit

toxic pewter
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that is my point.. you have lost your way

waxen frigate
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You ain’t seen 10 bands in your life

lusty tiger
left basalt
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any vault porn or servers still down (stuck at work)

uneven mason
toxic pewter
left basalt
toxic pewter
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i got 447 mark like 4 months ago

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rekt

left basalt
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i still haven't seen a beacon drop in heroic

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F

toxic pewter
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i got heroic beacon 2nd week of patch

left basalt
graceful leaf
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For everyone on ptr how is prot feeling? Coming back after awhile unsure which plate tank to start gearing for next season

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M+ mainly

toxic pewter
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we have had effectively zero changes for almost a year now so its basically the same since df launched

graceful leaf
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I’ll take a look haven’t got to play any of df really

toxic pewter
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we are looking pretty strong defensiely and st dmg is good, our aoe damage is a bit weaker but still prob not bad

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na servers r up

dusky canopy
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I got a hunter to give me beacon week 2 as well LOL

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Stand up guy I must say

toxic pewter
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I got shadow priest to give me my beacon week 2

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shadow priest won it and i wasnt 2nd in rolls and basically convinced him it is not great for shadow priest lol

left basalt
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I’m hoping for beacon later let’s goooo

warm plinth
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@left basalt here's your vault porn

Mage: tokens
Hunter: tokens
Druid: tokens
Warrior: tokens
Priest: tier helm for mog
Paladin: tokens
Rogue: tokens

strong forum
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Tmog vault

grim pilot
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sounds about right

warm plinth
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I probably should've taken the tier gloves on druid too but I didn't think about it and the missing appearance message is waaaay at the bottom for tier.

grim pilot
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Can u imagine the luck my rogue getting fragment in the vault 3 weeks in a row

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1 slot filled

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my highest ilv item

warm plinth
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You know what's actually insane

grim pilot
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so many possible choices

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but na, take your 3rd 447 frag at 415 ilv

warm plinth
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I have not seen one single tusk drop the entire season, and I've easily done more Underrots than any other key.

grim pilot
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that good of an item eh?

warm plinth
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Like not even for other people I mean

toxic pewter
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I have 12 tokens I guess I will buy gold with them

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6k gold..

warm plinth
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I mean it's a pretty good item. But I don't farm for it or anything. I just try to get my weeklies done as painlessly as possible so UR is one of my go-to keys haha

grim pilot
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if I want a weekly I either choose vp, hoi or fh

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fun keys

warm plinth
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You're the only person on earth who thinks HoI is fun

grim pilot
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how is hoi not fun

toxic pewter
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vp my fav dungeon this season personally

warm plinth
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It's the most boring dungeon this season

grim pilot
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what's boring abt it

warm plinth
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Everything.

grim pilot
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elaborate

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my main classes are warrior pala and priest

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there is 1 giga fun thing to do on each one of them

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so it's a bit sentimental

toxic pewter
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anyone know what happens if I do not use my vault tokens before next patch? do they become worth some amount of gold iirc

warm plinth
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The bosses are all incredibly simple and their only difficult comes from healing checks (which don't even really exist at this point of the season).

The trash is all either irrelevant or complete horseshit.

The gauntlet is probably one of the dumbest things Blizzard has ever put into a dungeon.

warm plinth
toxic pewter
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any idea how much they vendorable for

warm plinth
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500g a pop I believe

toxic pewter
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ok thx

warm plinth
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why does every headless horseman look like this keks

grim pilot
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either massive reflect, huge hof abuse or those perfectly timed satisfying MD's

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I love reflecting for 2.5m on a +20

warm plinth
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So how does that make the entire dungeon fun?

grim pilot
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small things

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make things fun

warm plinth
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So a spell reflect you're gonna get two times in the entire dungeon makes the entire dungeon fun when you're on your warrior?

grim pilot
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I see you get me

warm plinth
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I'm glad that you're satisfied by that haha

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ugh idk if I even have the motivation to finish my 70s this week. WotLK is an ass timewalking week

grim pilot
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buy lvl boost mr america

warm plinth
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maybe I just quest instead

grim pilot
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unless you prefer journey over the destination

warm plinth
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I probably will for my specless toon, just so I don't have to traumatize my groupmates

waxen frigate
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I’M JUST PROT,
ANY OTHER SPEC AND I’D BE HOT.
IS IT MY DESTINY TO LIVE AND DIE A LIFE OF SHIELD BLOCK AND TC?
I’M JUST PROT,
THEY JUST SEE META THAT I’M NOT.
WHAT WILL IT TAKE FOR THEM TO SEE THE TANK BEHIND THE SHIELD AND INVITE ME?

toxic pewter
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this song encapsulate all my feeling

hollow bolt
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YOull always be kennuf

strong forum
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Nish completely lost it

lusty tiger
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nish is back on his rocker

teal swift
waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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they need to let mistweavers have a season for gods sake

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meanwhile zero notes for us again.. no surprise there

radiant robin
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since when do we prio crit over vers for m+?

mighty valley
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it barely matters

radiant robin
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ok thx 🙂

mighty valley
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parry from crit is effective in m+ since so much damage is melee

pallid quiver
mighty valley
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and it typically provides slightly better dps, but you gotta sim to figure out that part

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overall don't stress on stats

modern brook
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Honestly verse was only ever really preferred when e could have like 80% of it in s4 bfa

bleak breach
toxic pewter
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2 weeks away where the f are all the blizzcon leaks jesus

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like its 2023

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wat going on here

lusty tiger
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They are everywhere I will be after I walk for 2 weeks

toxic pewter
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lol

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i think i understood that..

lusty tiger
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It’s from “Mitchell is moving”

left basalt
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No beacon... but 447 shard lol

lusty tiger
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Nice glimmering naruu sliver

left basalt
lusty tiger
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Yes

left basalt
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im fucking old fuck

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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wat is that

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mitchel is moving.. never heard of it

lusty tiger
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It’s a children’s book

toxic pewter
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lol

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this mitchel seems like a store brand franklin

lusty tiger
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Poor Margo sadgers

daring marlin
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I made pumpkin spice pancakes

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wew

lusty tiger
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:pumpkinpega:

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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u guys ever have pumpkion cream cold brew from starbucks

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that beverage is delicious af

lusty tiger
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No

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Kinda want to try it now

toxic pewter
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i find it better than the pumpkin spice latte

lusty tiger
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Nitro brew > cold brew >

left basalt
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PSL are gross this year, it gets warm in like 10 minutes, then the syrup turns to snot

toxic pewter
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yah the nitro is better that is true

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but i just find it too expensive sigh

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like I can get a trenta cold brew for same price

lusty tiger
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It’s expensive for every day

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But I make my own coffee

toxic pewter
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yeah starbucks just a ripoff

lusty tiger
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It’s less than $1/ cup and it’s strong enough for an entire day

toxic pewter
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wat kind of set up u use

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u got a nespresso or keurig

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french press/drip/instant?

lusty tiger
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NOPE

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mocha pot

toxic pewter
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wat that

lusty tiger
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On the stove

toxic pewter
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oh wow nice

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those seem great i never used one

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is it worth trying

lusty tiger
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They’re great

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Just don’t run it in the dishwasher

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I rinse mine and use soap every couple uses

toxic pewter
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interesting

lusty tiger
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I put it in the stove while I’m getting ready in the morning and clean it before bed

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Also it helps reduce bitterness if you keep the lid open while making coffee(the only catch being you have to figure out which heat setting is hot enough to get it boiling, but not so hot that it shoots hot coffee out onto your stove top)

sick sentinel
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447 sporepods

lusty tiger
left basalt
lusty tiger
tender cove
# lusty tiger

Not a huge coffee fan but unless you got a real espresso machine, that is the 2nd best by far

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Real OG stuff 😛

teal swift
left basalt
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I think so I didn't take it.

hardy snow
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I guess you've already seen such macro clueless

lusty grotto
lusty grotto
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so 3 sockets babyyyy

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or 3 tokens

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tbf evoke and nimchippy are only missing 447 pieces

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and only OCE from raid (and legendary in evokechip's case)

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nimchip is missing mythic anvil, mythic oce, 447 mark and treemouth, and Ashkandur

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F

coral pilot
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Just picked up the spec cause planning on playing it next raid tier

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how hard are we supposed to lean into the current tier set for dmg?

lusty grotto
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hard

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you use LS on cd

coral pilot
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so ignore the defensive value other than letting shield block recharge and just slam on cd

lusty grotto
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LS has no defensive value lmao

coral pilot
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oh shit last I played was bfa when it had a dr on it

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oop

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that makes that easier

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ty

lusty grotto
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just press it on cd, tier provides cdr

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and youre supposed to have bolster with it, which ignores SB duration cap (normally 3x sb duration)

coral pilot
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ahh thats what I was thinking of okay

lusty grotto
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we dont play bolster outside of this tier

coral pilot
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normally nails or spell block yea?

lusty grotto
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yeah

coral pilot
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kk ty

lusty grotto
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but you swap bloodsurge for it

coral pilot
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I see it

modern brook
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Dog shit coffee > everything

toxic pewter
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What you guys think the new survival game will be like when they announce it at blizzcon

modern brook
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Overwatch br

toxic pewter
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I hope it’s a new ip. Apparently will be called Odyssey

modern brook
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Odussy

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Iunno everytimw blizzard announced something i go through the same Rollercoaster of "blizzard I like blizzard games. Wait I liked blizzard games. Lmao ow2. Lmao reforged. Lmao d4. Lmao d3." And i stop caring. I genuinely hope it's good but I'm not touching it until well after it's release

sick sentinel
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my stamina bar is RIP

lusty grotto
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after d3

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so it will happen for you bull, i have faith

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yes, it happend after THREE, not four, i didnt buy that shit

modern brook
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Will happen smh

lusty grotto
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i believe in you!

modern brook
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It happened before 3 for me

lusty grotto
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ok screw you then

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i believe in me

mighty valley
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d3 got good eventually, totally reasonable to wait 5 years after launch for a decent game

toxic pewter
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Blizzard best years are still ahead of it

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I am not a cynic

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I stand by blizzard through thick and thin

mighty valley
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no one should have loyalty to corporations

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just play their games if you like them and don't if you don't

teal swift
modern brook
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I believe in u apb

teal swift
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Next big boss man will simp for warriors and we'll be #1 DPS and #1 tank for 6 seasons in a row

modern brook
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Age of the shaman inc

mighty valley
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so i gotta track the apb vision

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there's a new expansion coming out that's void themed and has shaman tanks and shouting support warriors but also they're announcing classic+ where they explicitly say "everything since vanilla was bad please play this version where we'll make new content exactly how you'd like it" and this is all happening while the game director is stepping down

bleak breach
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Furthest I go with blizzcon and events is look at the highlights recap on wowhead lol

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Other then that I check patch notes if anything looks interesting

lusty grotto
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likewise

bleak breach
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I have 0 idea who works for them

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Hopefully new xpac is interesting though

strong forum
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Yeah pmuch same here

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Much better to just read up on the recap

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Than watch 8-10hrs of livestream

teal swift
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Idk how catch-up even works lmao

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Idk what I need to do

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@strong forum I did the base campaign and unlocked world quests

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Is there other shit I need to do

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Before 10.2?

strong forum
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Nop

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Df has exceedingly little maintenance

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Or catch up work to do

teal swift
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Oki

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Just needed to make sure I don't have toarathon some bullshit LOL

strong forum
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If you are only looking to gear up in 10.2 you don't need to do anything

teal swift
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Well

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In 10.2 need my keystone achievea

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But I can't orelearn fuck all

strong forum
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If you wanna gear up rn, spam 11-15s and 16-20s

teal swift
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8 new dungeon set every

strong forum
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Specifically those brackets

teal swift
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Nelth

strong forum
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But there's nothing else that you need to do now that has an effect on 10.2 besides ilvl

teal swift
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Worm boss lmao

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Everyone would just fall over

strong forum
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Lfr is 447

teal swift
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With relative ease

strong forum
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Which is current max ilvl

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So yeh

teal swift
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It looks like I can just quest through to 437 in week 1

strong forum
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Sounds about right

teal swift
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So gearing up rn feels like a waste, how are our embellishments

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Looking for s3?

strong forum
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Yes

teal swift
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Heard they get nerfed into the ground

strong forum
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Nothing changes

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Cuz there aren't any worthwhile new ones coming out

teal swift
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Okie, thanks friend

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I appreciate you, I'm drowning

median tulip
teal swift
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The crafting system, and everything else

median tulip
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oh oops, I was scrolled up

teal swift
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LOL

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Sporepods is the developer being a meme

warm plinth
strong forum
warm plinth
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There is

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Inexorable resonator

strong forum
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Literally worse than spore pods or blade dancers

teal swift
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Link it

warm plinth
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Which is probably worse than every other one we've har

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Had

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Combined

median tulip
teal swift
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Does it do defense good at least

strong forum
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Resonator has to be the worst trinket every designed in wow history

warm plinth
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From Legion

strong forum
teal swift
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Because sporepods was bad at everything

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LOL show me

warm plinth
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The royal dagger haft or whatever

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Can't remember the name of it

strong forum
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It's a stamina trinket that gives you a super bad proc when you reach 20% hp, for 12sec you have a chance to counterattack and absorb a bit of dmg

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With a 2min cd

median tulip
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Stamina Trinket sadge

warm plinth
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It does like

strong forum
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It's like 300 dps/hps

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In a world where trinkets do up to 9k dps

warm plinth
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It did like .2% of Mt overall or something

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When I used it at 424ish

strong forum
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  • it doesn't even have stats that give any dmg, cuz it has stamina
warm plinth
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(Toon ilevel)

strong forum
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This is literally a trinket that costs you around 10k dps and massive survivability

median tulip
warm plinth
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Yes that one

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That was the og

median tulip
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My usual trinket preference is 1 active + 1 passive stat stick for M+; 2 stat sticks for Raid. Very very rarely on progression I'll use an active defensive like Dreadplate in raid, if I really need it for progress.

teal swift
strong forum
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Yup

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It's literally worst trinket in wow

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For atleast 4 expansions

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Maybe more

teal swift
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lmao

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Been back less than a week

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trying to get my shit leveled up

strong forum
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You have more characters leveled than me

teal swift
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xD

median tulip
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What's looking like good trinket combos for next season? Sandglass?

strong forum
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Signet + augury/sandglass/pip/butcher/fyrakk/cheat

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But signet is so turbo OP, that it's a must pick

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It's twice as good as anvil

median tulip
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Rezan's Eye?

strong forum
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At equal ilvl

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Rezans eye is fucking dead

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Taken out back

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It's now the azerite trait from rezan

median tulip
#

?

strong forum
#

Does phys dmg that leaves a shitty bleed

#

Instead of haste proc

median tulip
#

Oh

#

It used to be a good Haste trinket :/

strong forum
#

"good"

median tulip
#

But the Butcher's Block is still a crit proc?

strong forum
#

Good because trinkets were so shit in bfa

#

Butcher is still crit

#

*for now

#

Who knows what they'll do to that

median tulip
#

I'm just looking through the other dungeon lists... Spiked Counterweight had a long ICD, didn't it?

strong forum
#

Low proc rate

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Therefor also shit

#

Dunno if they changed anything about it

#

But the original proc rate is 0.92 ppm

median tulip
#

What's pip in your list upabove?

strong forum
#

Literally called pip

median tulip
#

Raid Trinket?

strong forum
#

Ye

#

Issa fat stat proc trinket

#

That rotates between mastery vers crit

median tulip
#

I'm always here for a fat stat buff

#

Hmmm, no Haste though :/

strong forum
#

Procs 3k secondary that decay over 12 seconds

#

Then stops at 240 stats

#

Then procs again for 3k decaying

median tulip
#

That's not bad

strong forum
#

It used to perma rotate

#

12->12->12->

#

But now it afk's sometimes between procs

#

So it's not an average of 1.5k stats perma

median tulip
#

Is it from an early boss?

strong forum
#

I've not looked at loot tables

#

But I assume it drops from council

#

So a very early boss

#

Cuz it's pip + friends you're fighting

#

And the item is pip + friends

median tulip
#

Cool

#

Thanks for answering dumb questions

tender cove
pale belfry
#

how is prot looking in M+ 10.2?

strong forum
#

Solid

torn gulch
#

decent

potent anvil
#

Decently solid.

hazy bronze
#

But are they solidly decent?

potent anvil
#

Yes

cerulean tusk
#

Would this mean, we tag all mobs with the pulsing damage that are in combat within 100yards? critcake

strong forum
#

you just answered your own question

#

are in combat

cerulean tusk
#

I pray we dont have any mobs fighting stuff in dungeons this season :v

strong forum
#

???

#

they arent in combat with you

#

just because they perform animations

#

doesnt mean theyre in combat with you

cerulean tusk
#

Hm, fair, I hope you are right - and that we dont get a case of mobs suddenly coming charging. Even tho it would be hillarious

jagged gust
#

Probably works the same way starfall does

strong forum
#

it literally just waits for the combat flag

#

and thats that

#

ykno, that popup on your character frame where you have 2 crossed swords

oblique garnet
strong forum
#

starfall ninjapulling hyrja

cerulean tusk
#

Or divine toll... I love just hearing the paladin go "Guys, I think a hammer flew through this wall."

daring marlin
#

blacksmith in neltharus

#

aids

tender cove
#

when is it eu actually has the vault open?

#

i want a 2h wep. I know i know, prot and all but arms has been quite funny to pewpew but with a 328 wep? wanna see how much i can actually pew the pew with a 447 wep 😮

#

In my head its like a 50% dps increase

strong forum
#

should be in 1 or 2 hours

#

like 5 or 6am

median tulip
tender cove
tender cove
#

so thats what that is for. Ive seen it but always thought it was odd to have an timer on it but /shrug

#

now i see. Mind actually blown

median tulip
#

any time-limited item has the timer on it

tender cove
#

and we cant carry the keys over week to week, so makes sense

#

2 hours anyhow. So i guess that is 6am or maybe 7am

nova rover
#

I need an opinion which one

#

Both are upgrades

tender cove
median tulip
#

That Cloak is the one that steals allies secondary stats, right?

strong forum
#

get legs

#

the cloak is useless outside of raid

nova rover
#

Ok now the legs I currently have are

#

Obsidian Guard's Chausses

median tulip
#

There's no Stam on the Cloak IIRC

strong forum
#

correct

nova rover
#

So legs?

median tulip
#

and surely you'll be putting the legs into the catalyst regardless?

nova rover
#

You'd get tier set I have kept the chausses because of vers

#

Taking the legs Id lose 270 vers

strong forum
#

ilvl is king

#

if you already have 447/450 legs then just pick socket

lusty grotto
#

if this was early or mid season i would say cloak just cause its rare

#

but we're 2 weeks away from patch

#

and non stam on cloak is NOT gonna help you at all to be ahead of the curve

median tulip
#

TBH I might be tempted to take the cloak for the unique transmog

lusty grotto
#

and honestly like nome said, cloak is just for ST parsing at best

#

its absolute shit for keys

strong forum
#

its not just shit

#

its literally detrimental

#

shit implies it has some form of value

lusty grotto
#

giga shit

strong forum
#

but that cloak straight up doesnt work for 98% of the dungeon

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

Well, it has a slight amount of personal value ion terms of looking like you're higher ilvl, so it's got that going for it 🙂

alpine hamlet
#

I am looking to buy the character name Garrosh if you know anyone squatting on it that wants to sell

tender cove
#

is there any reason beside shield to open vault as prot?

median tulip
#

and you get one-handers without risking getting a 2-hander like you might with Fury

#

bleh, boring vault

tender cove
median tulip
#

Yeah

oblique garnet
#

Once you have a shield and you want onehanders just open as fury so you also get the dps lootspec trinkets

median tulip
#

I was hoping for an active offensive trinket

oblique garnet
#

Otherwise once you have shield and wep go arms

tender cove
#

I cant get anything wtf

#

lol

#

Already have neck 447 and roll 2x...lol...

median tulip
#

I'm at the point where if it's not the specific thing I want then it's meh

tender cove
#

would you switch it?

#

just to get rid of that 1k mastery

median tulip
#

IDK, I made my Necklace

tender cove
#

even the choker with 550 haste and 900 versa

#

i dunno, shit choice, i have tier head already

#

i have 9 slots where i could roll an upgrade and roll 2 necks... im salty...this was shit...

lusty grotto
#

could be worse

#

you could have gotten tokens on 6 characters like ghash did, or 3 like me

median tulip
#

I might take this just for the mog

tender cove
bleak breach
teal swift
#

tier is dead in 2 weeks

solar grove
#

something like treemouths or talismajn of the cragshaper has to be better than ward of the faceless ire right?

lusty grotto
#

situational

#

treemouth is the better one

#

for yourself

bleak breach
#

Anvil and beacon

solar grove
#

yeah i forgot that u can cast ward on others

lusty grotto
#

but faceless ire is an external you can use on others

bleak breach
#

Give the healers something to do

solar grove
#

working with what i got

nova rover
tender cove
#

lol... neck from the heroic cache too

lusty grotto
tender cove
#

wtf is this 😦

lusty grotto
#

ilvl > all

nova rover
#

yea when I checked it was 1% its like nwhatever

bleak breach
#

1% on every piece adds up quickly

lusty grotto
#

dont talk without knowing the context

#

this isnt a versa discussion

bleak breach
#

Don’t start your crap again

#

I read above

lusty grotto
#

try way up

bleak breach
#

Already been there

lusty grotto
#

the 1% adds up doesnt matter at all if hes considering not replacing legs due to versa when the legs he has in the vault are higher ilvl

nova rover
#

I get 1% is important when you are getting it there but getting a ilvl jump with other stats huge including defensive 1% vers is meh

lusty grotto
#

correct

#

armor, str, stam

#

all coming from ilvl

nova rover
#

Ya I was 22% vers

#

now Im 21 vers

lusty grotto
#

thats fine

tender cove
#

i wish i had 21% versa 😮

bleak breach
#

Not that you have strength/stam % but losing 1% vers is way better then losing 1% str/stam/armour

bleak breach
solar grove
#

how often do you guys find yourself pressing impending victory

ionic fern
#

As often as i need it.

pallid quiver
#

Not particularly often, as often as I need it/plan for it

tender cove
#

pretty often for me

lusty grotto
#

i dont use it a lot

tender cove
#

i find me wanting to use it and having it on cooldown regularly

solar grove
#

kk. just making it wasnt like a core part of the playstyle

pallid quiver
#

You can use it to help counter healing absorbs, for example

lusty grotto
#

yeah its great for BH last boss

tender cove
#

should be 15-20 sec cd tbh

ionic fern
#

You use it to top yourself up after spike damage or if the healer doesn't pay attention to you.

tender cove
#

its way to long as is

lusty grotto
#

thats kind of it

lusty grotto
#

we're not bdks

pallid quiver
#

Or it can be used to help deal with long periods of high magic damage, as well (Deios breath in DotI comes to mind, Experiments on Mythic is a likely scenario)

solar grove
#

its a 25 sec cd

tender cove
#

And 5-10 sec shorter would be a big deal

solar grove
#

oh yeah deios sounds brutal from prot pov

tender cove
#

i vote it in

lusty grotto
#

no

#

hard disagree

pallid quiver
lusty grotto
#

pointless suggestion freakadin

pallid quiver
#

The adds are the hard part of the DotI Deios fight, so the brutal part is getting the DPS to actually hit them

tender cove
solar grove
#

i guess if you manage your cds its prolly not that bad

#

would that be a fight to run spellblock on

lusty grotto
pallid quiver
#

It only reduces the upfront damage of the breath, which is neat,

tender cove
#

well then your disagree is pointless because nobody agrees with your disagree and instead agrees with my agreed.

ionic fern
#

Only the initial hit of the breath is blockable iirc.

lusty grotto
#

what the fuck?

pallid quiver
#

but the adds murder you harder than the breath

#

And their casts are all blockable (except the dot that doesn't hit you)

tender cove
solar grove
#

maybe i have just had solid groups but i havent had the adds be an issue on any other tank i have played

lusty grotto
ionic fern
#

If they reduce the CD of IV it would be bonkers.
1)High mitigation? Check
2)High self healing? Check
Why even need healers.

lusty grotto
#

"you started it?" seriously?

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

your*

bleak breach
lusty grotto
#

of couse he will

#

again this is a public channel

#

dont put your opinion in here, hoping people won't question it

tender cove
pallid quiver
lusty grotto
#

jesus christ

tender cove
ionic fern
#

@lusty grotto @tender cove , take it to DM's if you want to.

pallid quiver
#

They're the only legitimate check in the fight; after that, it's just doing mechanics (orbs) and not spreading puddles as mega far out as possible in P2

ionic fern
#

Otherwise it's a mute.

lusty grotto
#

lol

tender cove
waxen frigate
#

Australians in shambles

#

It’s aneurysm

lusty grotto
#

this all happened because i said "thats a hard disagree"

waxen frigate
#

The more you know

bleak breach
#

Mute Nimchip already pleaseeeee. All he does is cause drama and argue with people.

lusty grotto
#

its incredible

tender cove
waxen frigate
#

I’m the opposite of drama I’m content

bleak breach
#

He’s a massive narcissist and it’s always everyone else’s fault, so many new people won’t comment in the channel because of his constant crap.

lusty grotto
#

lmaoooo

#

i didnt know i had that big of an impact

#

guess im a force to be reckoned with

bleak breach
#

Only in the negative way sadly.

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

bro youre the guy that says "in my opinion" and spout some nonsense without any math to back it up

bleak breach
#

That’s not a brag, should be a positive channel, not a place where people feel intimidated to speak because you need an ego trip.

lusty grotto
#

going basically against what the mods in this channel repeat on a daily basis

modern brook
#

:MwaHI:

lusty grotto
#

remember when i asked you to link sims and you didnt?

modern brook
sweet summit
lusty grotto
#

and then i linked MY sims to back my shit up and it fit with what everyone here is in agreement with?

modern brook
bleak breach
#

See, narcicism.

lusty grotto
#

unfortunate

sweet summit
#

rare prot channel drama pogging

ionic fern
#

No.

#

Because it stopped.

modern brook
waxen frigate
#

Do I need to call an ambulance

modern brook
#

No sorry I'll be good 😦

lusty grotto
#

wow nish trying to bankrupt bull like that

#

feelsbadman

sweet summit
#

does he look live action to you??!!!1

waxen frigate
#

Chin scratches for you

modern brook
toxic pewter
waxen frigate
lusty grotto
sweet summit
#

that is not normally, check him eyes and brian

lusty grotto
#

if its nish, its normal

modern brook
#

Oh yeah ur right his Brian's the give away can't believe I missed that!

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
#

hmm when

waxen frigate
#

Idk like

#

8hrs ago?

lusty grotto
#

damn thats a lot of scrolling

waxen frigate
#

Basically I just paraphrased Dracula flow

lusty grotto
#

apb we believe in you

waxen frigate
#

And apb started talking about god or something

#

It was a good time

lusty grotto
#

OH

#

yeah i think i caught that

toxic pewter
#

I am very powerful individual. Some say most power full

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
#

No

lusty grotto
#

how powerful are you apb?

waxen frigate
#

Um… yes

lusty grotto
#

can you bring jordan back from the dead?

toxic pewter
waxen frigate
#

Michael Jordan is alive

lusty grotto
#

this true

toxic pewter
#

What happened to Jordan

lusty grotto
#

ok nish is also very powerful

toxic pewter
#

Jordan really disliked me 🤔

lusty grotto
#

hes around just doesnt say much 😢

toxic pewter
#

I see

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
#

also kanga hasnt said much either lately

waxen frigate
#

Not to say you’re racist

#

I’m just stating something that I personally dislike

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
#

preach Jordan!

lusty grotto
waxen frigate
real minnow
#

Huhu! Should i prefere Forgestorm on 441 or Tongue Hacker on 447?

waxen frigate
#

👅

tender cove
#

I went for a smoke and bro, really, you were just joking or doing some skit or smt? You didnt really lose it on that level over some random, truly insignicifant, doesnt matter even the slighlest thing right? Youre not THAT mentally unstable, because if you are? You need to seek professional help bro.

lusty grotto
tender cove
#

Seriouisly. Let me know if you need to talk.

waxen frigate
#

I went for a smoke and bro, really, you were just joking or doing some skit or smt? You didnt really lose it on that level over some random, truly insignicifant, doesnt matter even the slighlest thing right? Youre not THAT mentally unstable, because if you are? You need to seek professional help bro.

tender cove
#

I mean, you do you bro but its a remarkable, a bit fascinating response and behavior. Like, damn son...

toxic pewter
#

There’s more projection going on in here than a movie theater

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
#

XD

tender cove
lusty grotto
#

can you show me where i lost it

tender cove
#

And it just went down from there

bleak breach
#

@tender cove don’t even worry about it, he’s acting innocent and trying to make you look like the bad guy. It will just happen the next time you comment about something because the mods do nothing about him.

lusty grotto
#

lmao jesus christ

tender cove
#

You only stopped because mwhai had to threaten to mute you, so dont play dumb man. either own your shit or stop acting like a dick?

#

Not hard?

lusty grotto
#

i didnt stop?

waxen frigate
ionic fern
#

Since you guys don't listen i'll just mute the lot of you.

#

Maybe i'll remember to unmute you after my meeting.

waxen frigate
#

Now Mwahi is back

#

ggs

toxic pewter
#

So quiet in here all of a sudden

waxen frigate
#

GN @toxic pewter love u

toxic pewter
#

Night

real minnow
lusty grotto
#

👍

teal swift
#

@strong forum whats the PPM for the evoker leggo?

blazing condor
#

"gonna make a group for windfury who wants in?"

#

"well im not gonna give it to a tank lol"

pallid quiver
#

all the time

blazing condor
pallid quiver
#

ALL THE TIME

blazing condor
#

🤓 um akshually windfury is better on a pwarr becau-

#

kicked

ionic fern
#

We actually give it to the tank.

#

Don't even need to ask for it.

blazing condor
#

join my group and give it to me

ionic fern
#

We recently got some classes in that gain more value from it.

#

So i lost my spot.

#

😦

blazing condor
pallid quiver
#

Bully them

ionic fern
#

I'm too washed up to care.

jagged pier
#

based

ionic fern
#

I remember the Mwahi that went through logs after every raid to improve etc.
Now i'm the Mwahi where i go in, press button, leave.

blazing condor
#

im not even washed im just dirty

ionic fern
jagged pier
#

no point in trying to log when its all rng crits

#

do i live

ionic fern
#

"Ah yes..i see what i did wrong..i did not have beacon".

jagged pier
#

hopefully theres nothing like that next patch

#

🧢

ionic fern
#

There's..ee..something.

#

Diddn't Waycrestr drop some effect weapon?

jagged pier
#

honestly havent looked

#

so i dunno

#

theres an effect wep from raid

#

but trinket i dunno

pallid quiver
#

I remember seeing a War Tank in the wild getting close to my ST DPS and was like, "Wow, someone pressing buttons!"

blazing condor
#

servant slicer?

pallid quiver
#

then i checked their damage breakdown and got sad

#

simply just crit beacon

ionic fern
blazing condor
#

i like that logs are rng

#

cus then i can cope

#

cus i dont have beacon

ionic fern
blazing condor
#

too bad tier isnt all bleeds

#

couldve been cool

#

but also kinda bad

pallid quiver
#

that's how you have a balance nightmare

#

so i approve

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

im for making them work

pallid quiver
#

I like shit games

#

so I'd legit be down

ionic fern
blazing condor
#

speaking of which

#

no beacon this week either

#

sad scam game

ionic fern
#

I won't get either of them tho.

ionic fern
#

Well, maybe actually the wpn

#

From raid.

#

Since we got no 1 handers.

blazing condor
#

isnt there a whole thing with "above 90%" damage next tier

#

whats up with that

jagged pier
#

in before last boss its 100-90%

blazing condor
#

pog

#

and in full execute phase for some reason

#

feels like it wouldve been cooler with "below 10%" for those squeeze moments when u try to down the boss

#

but maybe itd be broken then idk

blazing condor
#

we have so much burst anyway

#

but i was mostly thinking for raiding

#

ravagaer + avatar + tc + shield charge + whatever

#

impossible not to have aggro

hardy snow
#

its random proc, so its not good to base threat on it, and I wouldnt be surprised if in M+ something with hase will be better overall

#

its increase only to the proc, not to your all dmg

#

if it proc on target above 90% it will hit him harder

jagged pier
#

snap threat

#

KEKW

#

who has issues with threat

pallid quiver
#

Only on a technicality do I sometimes, and it's because the DPS pulled a pack in literally the other side of the dungeon, so I technically do not have aggro on mobs while the DPS do.

#

i also often have the reverse issue with threat in raid with pugs

blazing condor
#

sometimes can struggle a second or two if im all out of cds

#

and a dps bursts on pull

hardy snow
jagged pier
#

but none of what u have said is aggro issues

#

thats just dps being dumb as fuck

pallid quiver
#

The former me, as I said, is only a technicality.

#

I have more aggro issues with other tanks not pressing enough buttons

blazing condor
#

had to stop dpsing today on sark pug

#

cus co tank was doing 20k dps

pallid quiver
#

And I've seen a few people in here have their co-tank with beacon just crit and sneak aggro sometimes

blazing condor
#

and i ripped aggro

jagged pier
#

but thats not u having aggro problems

pallid quiver
#

damn, i want that co-tank

jagged pier
#

thats him

pallid quiver
#

I'll take 20k over 15k

sick sentinel
#

if we dont take spellblock , do we take tough as nails instead or one of the side talents

pallid quiver
#

M+ usually Bloodsurge, Raid usu Unnerving if using the pinned builds

jagged pier
#

thats not what he asked

#

this season u dont take tough as nails at all

#

because u have bolster

#

next season with new set

#

u will just swap that point ye

pallid quiver
#

it works the reverse tho, you'd throw the point from spell block back in

#

If he doesn't have Bolster at the start, I don't know which build he's using

jagged pier
#

the wrong one 🤷

sick sentinel
#

o

#

can u send the right build then sorry

#

I just copied wowhead

jagged pier
hardy snow
#

how much approximately dps we gain on ST from going current 4p to 2x2p, assuming 447 lfr two new pieces?

sick sentinel
#

cheers

#

didn't see theupdated part, thought it was still the original february build

opaque quest
#

4 vaults in a row on a 430 char. 4x gem

#

fml

#

Good thing D4 is fun and Cities is out

hardy snow
jagged pier
#

sad because im more likely to equip the chest piece

opaque quest
#

Take call and act like chest never dropped

uneven mason
hardy snow
uneven mason
#

Ah ok

jagged pier
#

ye i cba doing that my man

#

the first boss of the next raid drops a shield

#

so u gunna insta replace anyway

hardy snow
#

I know, I had hc vault anyway only, we are starting reclear on M this week as we killed Sark on monday, I need tmog from mythic version

#

and even if shield wont drop from first boss in new raid Im gonna craft to get this juicy ilvl upgrade

#

but tmog is the way wicked

opaque quest
#

Tmog from Aberrus tho

#

Unless youre a Priest or Pala is meh

hardy snow
#

from whole DF I lack 4 currently available shields, normal and mythic diurna, mythic echo and S2 elite (but this one is out of my range)

teal swift
#

Ilvl > sim

opaque quest
#

Or Pala

#

I despise pvp

hardy snow
#

I like pvp, but im not that good and I dont have that much time to get elite lvl, set for 1,8k is enough for me gladge

opaque quest
#

Isnt elite from 1.8k?

hardy snow
#

1.8k is Rival, it gives last pieces of armor set

opaque quest
#

1.8k is doable tho no?

#

I got 2k in Legion in like one evening

#

I just didnt have fun during it keks

#

Next season we get solo queue RBG. Lets hope we get elite for 1.8k there too

blazing condor
#

rbgs tho

#

🤢

hardy snow
opaque quest
pallid quiver
#

poyo will be fine

#

poyo is strongest in land

opaque quest
#

RBG isnt to bad. I like arathi

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Warsong tho deadge

blazing condor
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it depends on your team tbh

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bgs are fun

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but when youre sweating hard tryna get rating

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and ppl are just stupid

pallid quiver
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Sweating BGs in random queues sounds like A Time

opaque quest
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I had 2 diff experiences in legion for mage tower. On Pala i played 11 and won 10 games