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indigo sable
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Gotcha. Thanks

waxen frigate
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Or even 431

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I misread

mighty valley
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"breezing" assumes the overall competency level of the group is sufficient - even in low keys, if literally no one is kicking and people are eating shit to random mechanics, it won't go well

lusty grotto
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@warm plinth what was the addon that notified you if there was an augment rune box up? i know you mentioned it a while ago

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is it priority queue?

strong forum
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squeak puts you at almost 110cpm peepodrive

gloomy ferry
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can you spell reflect nymue on ptr

strong forum
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idk lemme check sheet

gloomy ferry
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since her tank attack is a Direct targeted magic

lusty grotto
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sheet is updated

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sense have been dumping info in it

gloomy ferry
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oh i can just go look then

strong forum
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you can deflect viridian rain

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nothing else

gloomy ferry
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do we pump because of it

strong forum
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(generally speaking prot warrior cant reflect stuff in raid)

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no we cant

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in raid pwar is not allowed to reflect mechanics for dmg

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AT BEST deflect

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which means you "ignore" it

gloomy ferry
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we never get to do anything fun

strong forum
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never in raid no

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they strictly make anything that is reflectable in raid either an irrelevant mechanic

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or straight up not reflectable

gloomy ferry
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yea

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i could see why

strong forum
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only BDK gets to immune 90% of the game

cinder nova
strong forum
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but also check t his

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no squeak pad

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fully ethical hammering

gloomy ferry
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is that last patch

strong forum
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ye its voti

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(its council, so you just get more rage to spam faster)

gloomy ferry
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ye

waxen frigate
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I miss the rage

chilly brook
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throw glaive slows doesn't it?

strong forum
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yeah but thats 3 targets max

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xdd

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doesnt really count

chilly brook
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hey man a slow is a slow

toxic pewter
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some say i am slow

chilly brook
toxic pewter
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ngl this new zone 'so called' emerald dream is very lackluster

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feels like just another dragon isles zone

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flying around northrend earlier just hit me even harder how soulless the new zones they create actually are

lavish sphinx
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DF seems more like a transitional expansion in general

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New Metzen zones inc

toxic pewter
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some of the most forgettable zones in wow's history are from this xpac

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like 20 years from now I will most likely not remember them

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or even 5 years from now

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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exactly

lusty tiger
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(;

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only reason i remember slands zones is because of having to go to the covenant headquarters

lavish sphinx
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Waking Shores > Plains > Thaldrassus > Azure Span

toxic pewter
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shadowlands zones were actually pretty cool

lavish sphinx
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Tried leveling alts in Shadowlands but you can’t queue for other expansion dungeons

toxic pewter
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ngl this 'iteration' of emerald dream is a huge spit in the face imo

lusty tiger
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havent seen it yet

lavish sphinx
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Nothing of the legion zone?

toxic pewter
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it lacks any dreamlike qualities or any vibrancy that evokes what the zone is meant to be

lusty tiger
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me: dreams of emerald

toxic pewter
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like its just ohn aren plains

lusty tiger
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weird

toxic pewter
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when you see it lmk what you think I guess

lusty tiger
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i want the emerald nightmare

lavish sphinx
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I want Garrosh back

toxic pewter
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honestly we need a major character or 2 to die

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like something interesting happen for gods sake

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cuz this shit is boring and bland as hell

sick sentinel
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i learned this the hard way last night, don't pull everything to boss in TW

lusty grotto
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🤷

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i pulled everything to boss on all of my chars lmao

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0 issues

warm plinth
sick sentinel
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i wonder if that dungeon would be good in mythic +

elfin atlas
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Been away from WoW for a few months now. Getting ready to come back for season 3. Long time PW here and mainly focus the M+ realm. Anyone know if we are looking good for next season? Or at least not trash compared to other tanks. I have donw zero reading and wanted to reach out here 1st.

patent osprey
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Our aoe is a bit lacking in comparison to tanks like prot pal and vdh but our survivability scales very well into high keys

elfin atlas
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Ha. Good to know and I will be sure to keep my word sin this channel that Blizzard never reads

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That is great to hear. PW is looking good in Raids then I would gander from the ST comment

patent osprey
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Yep 🙂 all the heat is on vdh atm but at high keys they are still paper but they are doing insane dam + cant be killed in like a 20

elfin atlas
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WOW I am not at your level o by any means. 20 is about my peak in keys. It begins to feel like work for me then, so I back it off. I hover in the 18 range mostly

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Thanks for helping out. Back to my bourbon and things. 🙂

opaque quest
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If youre doing 18 you can go in naked on any tank and still time keys dont worry

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No need for meta tanks before +30

elfin atlas
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Ha. Guess I am average at tanking then. Naked would get me wrecked. I mostly pug'd in season 2 and it felt like I needed to do everything. Felt flat out like work. Maybe I just have trusty issues, to where I don't trust DPS

opaque quest
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Get your shield to 447 if you havent. Changes alot

warm plinth
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Don't listen to Plka he can't even get to 4.5k

opaque quest
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No 4.5 invalidates all opinions

elfin atlas
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I think my shield is 441. and 4.5 makes me squemish

opaque quest
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dw highest tank in the world is 4071 you good

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Gash is just memeing

elfin atlas
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Yeah. I am a measly 2.5. Personally ok with that

pallid quiver
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shit I was late I didn't get to catch them with the Prot War unplayable

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I'm slackin'

opaque quest
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Get your shit together

warm plinth
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well, unless you have 13.63% vers

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exactly

elfin atlas
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I wouldn't have believed you. But love the trolling

lusty grotto
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pika appearance

pallid quiver
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I shitpost it every single time someone asks about meta and how we're looking since tuning can just pop up still. Any differences between tanks this entire xpac have only shown up at extreme keys because all the tanks have been strong

lusty grotto
elfin atlas
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I enjoy playing PW and always will, regardless of the meta. It doesn't mean I don't like knowing what the masses feel about us. I have really loved getting the, "damn, I didn't know PW could hit so hard" and similar messages. Lurking in here and seeing the tips helps alot with that.

pallid quiver
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If you're asking public opinion, I have zero idea

lusty grotto
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we are not public opinion lol

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far from it

elfin atlas
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ha. I guess we may be a bit biased...fact, but we do hear things.

pallid quiver
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Your best bet for that would be to dig at a streamer's hub for a second, since most people just parrot those

elfin atlas
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I am not changing from PW, guess a few weeks into M+ I will have all my answers.

pallid quiver
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Currently, I'd kneejerk say public opinion is that we're trash since it sounds like all eyes are on VDH at the moment

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and if you're not first, you're last

lusty grotto
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ngl its kinda weird seeing prot abbreviated to PW

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i guess its just not that common

pallid quiver
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And there's no such thing as different damage profiles/utility needed

lusty grotto
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we're still in agreement bdk will be sleeper meta

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pika is just not on the cool kids club

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because leggo go brrrr

elfin atlas
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i can say prot in here i guess. i try to differentiate deteween pally and warrior, but it is what it is

lusty grotto
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you can use whatever you like, im just commenting

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you're being understood no worries

elfin atlas
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I am out. Thanks for the chat y'all. Need more bourbon and then on to other things. Holla later...maybe

chilly brook
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Pink class isn’t real

lusty grotto
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nimchipadin in shambles yet again

opaque quest
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Prot Pala feels so weird since the rework

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I cant point my finger on why

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I just cant stand it anymore

mellow bridge
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I can point my finger at it

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AS not giving hopo anymore

bleak breach
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BDK won’t be sleeper Meta, it will be top or 2nd because of legendary.

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I imagine it will end up top player tank for 10.2

opaque quest
bleak breach
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Maybe since everyone seems to want a rework for prot war, they can let us use a 2h as our weapon so we can have the legendary 😜

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Has anyone here played VDH on ptr? Every week I look they’re getting more and more buffs. They already do good damage now…

opaque quest
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No matter how much VDH dps is buffed it wont change a thing. All the FOTM rerollers will just keel over in a +15 because VDH is so squishy if you dont have a brain

bleak breach
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Will be interesting

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One of our CE tanks in my guild plays VDH, he’s excited but also not overly convinced.

opaque quest
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Every class that had a rework became meta or at least super good. Dont think that will change

bleak breach
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Agree there

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Rogues will be really interesting too, they’re getting a lot of work.

sick sentinel
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wrath envenom was pretty good

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have not played or wanted to play a rogue since panda, completly gave up on it at that point

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combat was just as good, it was more that you could use combat on adds fights and fights that you were allowed to stand infront ot the boss or move around

opaque quest
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Legion Assa was bis

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Also yogi

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No combat

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Stop

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Its bang bang outlaw or nothing

sick sentinel
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im just kinda hopin for some kinda classic plus mash up between classic and retail

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not either of those things but its own thing in warcraft universe

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like, edit mode, or edit mode lite

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doesn't have to be better than either of the things its stealing ideas from

mighty valley
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Please talk more on that

sick sentinel
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everythings just a bit stale is all, at least for keys i can say from experience

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nothing changes from season to season which is a curse and a blessing

blazing condor
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Classic plus isnt too bad a concept

sick sentinel
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cuz its oh stand out of the obvious fire circle, its like that one boss, and then on the other hand its like oh god i hated that fight

blazing condor
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Its basically what runescape did

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With osrs

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Osrs now is like 100x different from what runescape was in 2007, but still has that same feel

mighty valley
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idk, making new stuff for runescape doesn't take anything like the resources to make new stuff for wow

urban portal
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making content for runescape is probably trivial

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but making a raid is a lot of effort

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and if you were gonna make a new classic raid may as well make a new retail raid

sick sentinel
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well, we are pretty sure its the end of expansion

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but if it makes it to 10.3 could be infinites win in their goal and then they go back into classic and cause a different cataclysm

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thats just me cooking though

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like, cuz the mega dungeon was all about time

mighty valley
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what did you mean by "edit mode"

opaque quest
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Maybe the ascension thing?

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Idk

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Custom classes

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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Am I alone in thinking it's weird that they've done multiple events related to donating blood for D4? lol

lusty tiger
opaque quest
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Bobby needs to drink more blood to sustain his youth before he quits

daring marlin
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It's still pretty weird bro

lusty tiger
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How else is Bobby going to stay young

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^^^^^

opaque quest
lusty tiger
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Kekw

mighty valley
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blood donation drives are good, what's the problem

opaque quest
daring marlin
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They sure are and I've given blood

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still weird af

opaque quest
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I am donating blood each 60 days. Im just doing it to be a good person and not for the monetary gain i swear

lusty tiger
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WTF lol

urban portal
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making raids in osrs is very different from wow

lusty tiger
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How much u get for “donating”

mighty valley
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i'm not allowed to give blood over here because i lived in the UK during the mad cow disease crisis 😔

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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hah he has dirty blood

lusty tiger
opaque quest
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xan muggle

gentle light
opaque quest
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It makes sense. The effects of mad cow take 50 years. I dont wanna get spongiforme enzephalopathie tbh

mighty valley
sick sentinel
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50 years ill be giga dead most likely

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another 50 that is

opaque quest
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Idk im turning 31 in 3 days ill probably be alive in 50 years

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Tho ill already be a zombie by that point. Dont need mad cow keks

daring marlin
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31?

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may as well die today!

opaque quest
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Thinking about ending it every day

sick sentinel
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new world combat is, its very good but icant get into that game

daring marlin
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but yogi

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GUN

sick sentinel
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i keep logging on and then do like 3 wuests for the night do that for 3 days stop playing for 3 to 6 months

opaque quest
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Try doing quests instead of wurst

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Stupidest gif i could find for the stupidest joke

sick sentinel
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i have collected enough crocilisk teeth and 9gres nose rings

lusty tiger
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C OCK PUSHUPS

opaque quest
lusty tiger
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@waxen frigate

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waxen frigate
lusty tiger
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Ur welcome buddy

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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o7

waxen frigate
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i'd shoot you in the face

lusty tiger
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);

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Jeez

opaque quest
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
opaque quest
waxen frigate
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bullet

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your face

lusty tiger
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Woah

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Nish u don’t even have a gun

opaque quest
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ngl kinda hot

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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Isn't rooach german

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
opaque quest
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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ok im coming over to shoot you in the face with one of my four guns

mighty valley
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this is a weird bit

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
opaque quest
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Jeree has an assisted suic ide kink

daring marlin
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Descendant of the weimar republic judging another country, weirdge

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
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Hahahaha

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Mans got water guns

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🔫

opaque quest
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Filled with p for extra poison dmg

lusty tiger
lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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u guys ok in here

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
opaque quest
toxic pewter
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i do enjoy a nice debate i cannot lie

lusty tiger
opaque quest
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I dont watch Anime sadge

lusty tiger
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Noob

toxic pewter
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theres only 2 kinds o people in the world

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people who watch anime and people who dont

lusty tiger
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People who watch anime, and noobs

toxic pewter
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There’s only two kind of people in the world

opaque quest
toxic pewter
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People who put people into two groups and people who don’t

opaque quest
lusty tiger
opaque quest
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Ive watched Pokemon DBZ Digimon and Bayblade as a Kid

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Does that count?

lusty tiger
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Sure

cinder storm
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It does

opaque quest
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Sweet time to buy a body pillow

toxic pewter
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I wat h the hit one piece on Netflix live action version

lusty tiger
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Is a beyblade battle with @waxen frigate a good idea for a first date?

toxic pewter
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They make a cartoon off one piece on Netflix

waxen frigate
rich wyvern
toxic pewter
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.. go on..

lusty tiger
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What’s the other one?

opaque quest
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Nice

toxic pewter
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That me

lusty tiger
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Irl?

opaque quest
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I need to get facebook just to troll ppl

toxic pewter
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Do people still use social media

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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Haven’t they realized social media destroy the world

opaque quest
lusty tiger
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Never go on Reddit then

toxic pewter
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China own discord and Reddit

opaque quest
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Ive used it 1-2 times to ask for help for PC troubles

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Thats about it

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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Every key stroke is saved

opaque quest
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Pretty sure china owns all of us

lusty tiger
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China owns the cells with Covid vaccine in my blood

rich wyvern
lusty tiger
graceful kite
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I dont understand how there's a subreddit for prostitution

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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Uh oh here we go

rich wyvern
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Gotta advertise somewhere

graceful kite
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I thought they're us based publicly traded company now

toxic pewter
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Haven’t you heard sex work is ok now

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And completely moral

lusty tiger
graceful kite
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I actually contacted some of the sellers

rich wyvern
lusty tiger
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Go work the corner buddy

toxic pewter
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I refuse

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I find it immoral

lusty tiger
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Same

toxic pewter
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We living in dark times

graceful kite
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nah it was always around

opaque quest
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Nice

toxic pewter
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I call it the Tower of Babel phase

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That’s what we in right now

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Up is down left is right

lusty tiger
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Interesting thought

mighty valley
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hey guys how much vers% do i need to tank a 15

opaque quest
graceful kite
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it was funny asking for a price to do weird shit

lusty tiger
opaque quest
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To tank a 15 you need 0 of every stat

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Put on a shield and a dagger with int

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And you good

rich wyvern
warm plinth
opaque quest
rich wyvern
daring marlin
lusty tiger
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Leet af

opaque quest
warm plinth
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No you will die if you have 13.37

toxic pewter
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32.33% repeating of course

graceful kite
warm plinth
toxic pewter
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Wat that number

graceful kite
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how are we doing next patch btw

rich wyvern
mighty valley
toxic pewter
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I don’t respect let alone listen to any priest tbh

lusty tiger
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Geez

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Irl or….

toxic pewter
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Wat u mean

lusty tiger
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Irl priest

rich wyvern
toxic pewter
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I don’t differentiate between in real irl or wow anymore

warm plinth
lusty tiger
opaque quest
rich wyvern
graceful kite
warm plinth
lusty tiger
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It’s actually a float type value

graceful kite
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never tried tho

toxic pewter
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HeroicLeap that me

warm plinth
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No, in all seriousness, it's just a random number I made up

rich wyvern
graceful kite
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life is wod and house is a garrison

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no reason to come out and run

daring marlin
toxic pewter
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Blizzard need make wow great again

lusty tiger
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My bones are made of glass, and my skin is made of paper

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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MWGA

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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My heart attacks put me to sleep

rich wyvern
opaque quest
lusty tiger
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Wait you could so do a pwar workout

waxen frigate
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im gonna mating press jeree for my workout

rich wyvern
lusty tiger
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Bold of you to assume I don’t already yell during my workouts

opaque quest
lusty tiger
rich wyvern
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Do you do reps of just yelling tho

lusty tiger
opaque quest
rich wyvern
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I feel like protwarr workout would replace hand weights with swinging a forge hammer

warm plinth
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They make kettle weights that are shaped like Mjolnir

daring marlin
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They sure do

rich wyvern
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That shits tiring if you have a decent weight hammer

lusty tiger
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Pwar workout is just a CrossFit montage

warm plinth
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but carrying a giant shield

daring marlin
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crossfit lmao

rich wyvern
lusty tiger
daring marlin
lusty tiger
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True and real

rich wyvern
lusty tiger
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WTF

daring marlin
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I saw a clip on X of a dude doing crossfit and ended with an OHP

lusty tiger
daring marlin
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He dropped the barbell on his shin that was extended

lusty tiger
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No dude

daring marlin
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i was not pleased to scroll over that

rich wyvern
# lusty tiger WTF

Me heroic leaping into the final pack of sparks in VP before my group has walked down the stairs (I have no idea why they didn’t jump down)

lusty tiger
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That’s not alright

lusty tiger
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Not being bdk in THIS ECONOMY

opaque quest
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Cant afford all the blood

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Im not bobby

lusty tiger
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I am

daring marlin
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dangit bobby

lusty tiger
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Working out to deftones call the cops

modern brook
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A cop tried to get me into the pelaton thing

lusty tiger
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Stationary bike is way too boring for me

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My dad is living his boomer dream with a pelaton bike and row machine in his garage

lusty tiger
modern brook
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Worse

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I'm a lifeguard

daring marlin
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bull is a deputy

lusty tiger
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Who shot the blordfango?

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Probably Nish

cinder nova
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3K BOYYYYYS

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WOOOOO

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ONLY TOOK THE LAST 3 WEEKS OF SEASON WOOOO

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AMATEUR HOUR WOOOO

daring marlin
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👏

lusty tiger
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Gz!

modern brook
lusty tiger
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💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

strong forum
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same as you never date check CEs unless its for recruitment but still not rly

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or any cheevo really

daring marlin
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Basederatur

lusty tiger
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ParryD4enthusiastgodBASED

strong forum
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kek

pallid quiver
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Meanwhile, the trap pugs:
"ummmmm excuse me, you didn't get aotc until 3rd last week, you're carried"

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So at least getting a late achievement helps filter some problem children out

shut summit
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🤷‍♂️

strong forum
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ye

warm plinth
strong forum
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it was never a point of relevance when we did recruitment either

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it says nothing about you as a person

cinder nova
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Not one of those jabronis pinged me for a key

strong forum
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people out there with 10 CEs but mechanically absolutely inept

lusty grotto
warm plinth
lusty grotto
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i have 0 CE

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but at least i have undying

warm plinth
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not Nome proccing cheat death on Rexxar instantly in vision because he pulled the entire zone on top of him

lusty grotto
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😄

strong forum
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great title

lusty grotto
opaque quest
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There is only 1 title i will accept

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Smelly

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Nothing comes even close

daring marlin
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Leveling in new D4 season is pretty sleek.

opaque quest
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Downloaded the game 5 hours ago too

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Looks like S2 is pretty neat

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Logged in. 4 popups for the shop. God damn

tender cove
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Should i feel bad? xD
Anyone know what he was actually asking? 😛

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strong forum
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Breh...

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He's gonna get wild values

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If he's actually taking you serious

pallid quiver
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he might just be since he whispered

strong forum
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Surely he notices once he does a single calculation

tender cove
strong forum
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Atleast tell him you were joking and that mainstat is your base multiplier

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So if you increase 10000 by 1000 you can expect (excluding item procs to not make it too complicated) a 10% increase

pallid quiver
strong forum
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So if I add 75 to my 10000 it's a 750 increase? Pog!

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Surely

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That gets noticed

pallid quiver
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I have to routinely teach people basic multiplication

I consider that a good state of mathematical literacy

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A ton of people just have no concept of numbers

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at all

tender cove
pallid quiver
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Literally, they can't understand that some numbers are bigger than others

tender cove
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okok @strong forum what do i tell him to be nice now

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since you made me feel bad xD

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it started with him saying agility would be better for mistweaver and he need to know how to calculate the proof that it wasnt. Yes, it was that weirdly phrased... So i just went with it xD

pallid quiver
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Well

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You can start with the fact Mistweaver doesn't get agility

tender cove
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now i feel a lot less bad, just saying xD

strong forum
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Agi does not increase anything for mistweaver

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That's why it's not good

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Everything scales off of intellect

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Dmg, healing

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Everything

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That's just how it works

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This isn't classic

tender cove
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i think he just confused himself and doesnt speak to good english and was trying to say he needs to know the value of intellect vs agility, but if it does nothing, yeh, doesnt make much sense

pallid quiver
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Also, someone send help

What's the strat for pugging Sark
DPS? Tank? how do i convince healers to not hate dispells

last sinew
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Ijust got accused of being squishy in UR20 because i died to having 4 ticks on me. keeping up ignore pain, popped all i could. sadly, I have no logs to link for the fight, but I was just wondering if I could get some advice on higher keys like that and survivability in them

lusty grotto
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dont pull ticks

last sinew
#

not entirely up to me

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it was 1st boss

lusty grotto
#

youre the tank

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o

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well thats not your fault then 🙂

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if people dont play stops on ticks after they fuck up squishes thats entirely on them

opaque quest
#

Dont 4 ticks die so fast that shockwave/leap/sb just keep them away?

last sinew
#

not in that run, they didnt

lusty grotto
#

people still need to play stops on them

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shockwave

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tail swipe

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blinding light

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fear

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tbf its fort week so yes they should be deleted

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in less than a second

last sinew
#

ok. i was worried that i was doing something wrong. but i just ran an 18 as fury. there was one tick. so now i feel less self-punishing. group wasn't so great maybe

lusty grotto
#

if youre dwarf you have an out, and should cycle defensives but

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it just shouldn't happen

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its not on you

last sinew
#

nah. warrior and was my 1st time tanking a 20

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oops, orc. reading is hard

pallid quiver
#

That wasn't reading, that was hand autopilot

last sinew
#

something. can't blame it on not having had breakfast. i just ate. so ummm...not enough beer?

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and that whole hand auto pilot thing

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thanks all

opaque quest
#

Blizz wants me to play ret. Never touched the raid but i got HC OCE/Beacon/Anvil/Echo from TW chests lol

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Or Prot but Prot stinks

bleak breach
#

Do you guys run barbaric training in aoe?

jagged pier
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No

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Dont ever run it

bleak breach
#

Ahh okay, was just running sims and it was giving me a fair bit more dps

lusty tiger
#

Gm Jakey

jagged pier
#

Gm jeree

pallid quiver
#

Experiments pugs are always one hell of a RNG fest

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will your cotank decide you die this cycle or not

opaque quest
#

Same on Zskarn. Ppl just dont taunt

warm plinth
#

Luerce I need my tw queue buddy 😭

pallid quiver
#

Let me get murdered one more time

warm plinth
pallid quiver
#

huh

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I managed to live

pallid quiver
warm plinth
pallid quiver
#

because i don't wanna go through that effort

warm plinth
#

You only have horde right

pallid quiver
#

of more raid, and ye

warm plinth
#

ok, I only have one more toon you can help me with I think

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well, 2 if we count Specless keks

pallid quiver
#

I've got my War since I realized I was wrong

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and i haven't hit the weekly

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Other than that

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i'm all DPS at this point

warm plinth
blazing condor
#

besides being dogshit

#

is arms fun rn

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if any of u play

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i dont dare venture into their channel

urban bane
#

arms is kinda awkward

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feels weird til execute

warm plinth
#

guys luerce bounced off the dome trying to leap into wise mari

blazing condor
#

idk who thought it was a good idea to give evokers a forwards grip

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the amount of times ive lost out on my charge cus they pull me forward straight into the pack

waxen frigate
#

arms is odd both ways but i disagree that it feels good in execute other than numerically

urban bane
#

yeah. thats fair too

waxen frigate
#

like yeah you crank in execute

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but it doesnt feel good

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its like

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i want to 2x execute and 2x OP to get a fat MS

strong forum
waxen frigate
#

but oh MS reset

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i guess im hitting it

strong forum
#

When they grip you from afar

blazing condor
#

makes me mad makes me angry

strong forum
#

Super awkward

waxen frigate
#

im gonna be no cap here

blazing condor
#

i do not consent to evokers grabbing me

waxen frigate
#

if an evoker ever gripped me into a pack and it resulted in my death

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i would insta leave a key

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dont care

blazing condor
#

i got flamed for it once

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didnt die but pull got super awkward

waxen frigate
#

yeah id fucking

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"fuck you"

blazing condor
#

and someone aggrod and got hit or whatever

waxen frigate
#

/leave

blazing condor
#

gonna go on a /camp ing trip

opaque quest
#

Also IP wont give resets in 10.2 so get used to sitting there even more

#

You could press slam but the dmg is so low there is no point

boreal heath
sick sentinel
#

so, i put my slef in this scenario as bdk the other day

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what is thst, 3 stuns plus hexxer

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we wiped (i think i alt f4d before everyone died), and come back the next day to do the tw

daring marlin
#

@lusty grotto new xiv class looks sick

dusky canopy
#

GM boys

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its the weekend 😄

sick sentinel
#

rogue vs pwar, only thing its missing is it being animated and having music

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nvm i think that dudes a private server player lmao

opaque quest
#

We get 2 not just one. Neat

uneven mason
rich wyvern
#

Fellas
Anyone got advice for good gearing methods for freshly dinged tanks? Shield is about 400ilvl but crafted, managed to luck out and get 4 different tier-slot pieces at veteran from heroic dawn of the infinite so I’ve got 4pc but other than that I’m rocking auction house green BoEs

opaque quest
#

Dawn HC for sparks. Craft 424 in every slot. Then spam some 17s and weave dawn myth in between

rich wyvern
#

Ta

pallid quiver
#

Dreamsurge gear is also 402 able to be upgraded/turned into tier, and you can get a 415 weekly from it

blazing condor
#

isnt it 408 even?

pallid quiver
#

No

opaque quest
#

Na 415 from weekly

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402 from blue boxes

blazing condor
#

oh yeah sorry

pallid quiver
#

You should be able to get close to 415 with the catchup sparks from Heroic DotI, since you can just send most things to public orders to get 424s

#

Around there, it's easy enough to M+ your way up, or you can try to hit Mythic DotI, though you'll want a plan for Deios likely

rich wyvern
#

Would you recommend making my own group for normal raid? Given that this is my first tank toon I feel like jumping straight into heroic raid might result in me wiping us a couple times but

pallid quiver
#

If you can properly vet people or care enough to it's always better to make your own groups, but your chances of getting gear from raid are always kinda sketch

rich wyvern
#

At 390ish for now, so hc raid is definitely off the table thinking about it lmao

pallid quiver
#

So it's better overall to hit M+ or something smaller group size wise

rich wyvern
pallid quiver
#

up to you whether you want to gamba

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I'd just focus on getting the higher gear to get into Heroic raid anyhow for those

rich wyvern
#

Might as well, it’ll give vault slots

rich wyvern
opaque quest
pallid quiver
#

Dreamsurge gear will quickly plug the rest of those slots so you can use the faster gearing methods

rich wyvern
opaque quest
#

Zero

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Was my first time tanking. Been doing dps on my DK and Warr in raid before that

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Only tanked M+

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If you co tank doesnt let you die on zskarm or rashok youre good

rich wyvern
rich wyvern
opaque quest
#

keks ye you can do that i did the same on my first kill with a friend on his tank

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But DBM yells at you when to taunt so its not to bad

rich wyvern
opaque quest
#

This is the extend of raid tanking this season i had before monk lol

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opaque quest
pallid quiver
rich wyvern
#

True

pallid quiver
#

Maybe like a third of a second to half a second depending on reactions

strong forum
#

Rashok you gotta be aware

pallid quiver
#

it's better to just like

strong forum
#

Rest of the bosses, not so much

pallid quiver
#

know what's going on

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I'd also recommend just not even intending to get Sark down; if you kill it, neat, but don't grind it

#

pugs are terrible at that fight

rich wyvern
#

Which is kinda warrior-pilled now that I think about it

opaque quest
#

I just notice them subconsciously and act like a robot

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Pretty sure 4 months into the tier most ppl do

rich wyvern
rich wyvern
opaque quest
#

Pretty sure its a good thing. Mechanic muscle memory

rich wyvern
#

Ye

#

Guess it lets you fuck about a bit to maintain enjoyment

opaque quest
#

When i did rashok i was hyperfocused on it tho

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I was streaming HC to a friend that only plays FFXIV and he was like wtf is that robot lady all the time

rich wyvern
#

fight where tank does things
(They’ve been pretty generous with good tank fights this tier imo)

opaque quest
#

Its like christmas music

rich wyvern
#

Anti-drug PSAs be like

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“Stay away from lines”

sick sentinel
#

main one i remember

opaque quest
#

What if i KNOW that it is cocaine

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Can i put it in my mouth then?

uneven mason
opaque quest
#

Oh i know this stuff

opaque quest
jagged pier
blazing condor
#

i play with dialogue on

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and also got dbm sound effects

jagged pier
#

muted for me

blazing condor
#

since bosses almost always have the same voice-lines for set abilities

#

makes it easier okayge

opaque quest
inland raft
#

I technically play with aound but i rarely put my headphones on and instead blast my music speakers as loud as i can

jagged pier
#

yer i turn all of them off

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u get the text stuff

inland raft
#

So the sound is enabled but i dont hear it

opaque quest
#

Like i said. I dont hear dbm anyways

hasty dagger
#

is there a pin for our AoE opener

uneven mason
#

It's the same as our st opener

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Since everything but SS is an ae

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And ss hits so hard you always* want to prioritize it

hazy bronze
#

and the tier set buff makes SS an aoe after last stand

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
#

want her back

lusty tiger
#

🚬

mellow bridge
toxic pewter
#

Make execute great again

sick sentinel
#

yup

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execute meta is fun

toxic pewter
#

should give us back the rage refund from it

urban portal
#

100%

toxic pewter
#

also let us use it when mob at 100%-80% health

cerulean tusk
#

Should make jug for prog stack to 99 Sighted

sick sentinel
#

i want condemn or more execute talents and sudden death baseline or main tree

toxic pewter
#

yeah I would be cool with them making prot warrior the execute tank when we get our rework

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like that can be our new 'image'

urban portal
#

That’s blood this tier

daring marlin
#

make execute cleave for prot

uneven mason
#

Plz no rework

toxic pewter
#

?

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after bdk, we are in line for rework and we definitely need it

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it is more clear to me each day actually

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entire class needs one tbh

sweet summit
#

realest apb take tbh

toxic pewter
#

the spec has been feeling dated for a long time. As blizzard has been radio silent for an entire year now, I can only assume it will come with the new expansion. I will admit our trees are better than most, but the rigidity of the trees along with the outdated mechanics and abilities are what I am hoping they will target

blazing condor
#

i feel like most classes could use a rework

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and define class identities

toxic pewter
#

they all been getting attention all xpac

#

once again: we have had zero communication for a year now

jagged pier
#

Maybe thats because bliz is happy with how the class is

toxic pewter
#

hmmm

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that is possible

jagged pier
#

They tend to say if they arent happy with how classes are and say they will get a rework

toxic pewter
#

surely they must be working on a rework for us

toxic pewter
jagged pier
toxic pewter
#

they often state they are happy with a spec too

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have not heard that even

toxic pewter
jagged pier
#

I doubt we get a rework

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What do u want to see from a rework

toxic pewter
#

the spec is feeling very dated at this point

jagged pier
#

The class literally plays hows it supposed too

toxic pewter
#

the days of spamming revenge and shield slam are tiresome

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and tc

jagged pier
#

Well u dont soam revenge

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So thats incorrect already

toxic pewter
#

revenge in general is a failed idea I realized

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and ip

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all our abilities are outdated feeling

jagged pier
#

Cool expect they are pretty much the same alternatives to the other tanks specs

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And most tanks spec end up using the same button alot while sprinkling other spells

sick sentinel
#

^

toxic pewter
#

i mean they dont have to get rid of them per se, but it is definitely time for a refresh

jagged pier
#

So do u want all tanks reworked?

toxic pewter
#

many of them already have been reworked

sick sentinel
#

This man acts like Sunder Armor.exe wasn't the OG gameplan

jagged pier
#

Well they were reworked sure

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But still ppay press x a lot

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Press y often

hardy ridge
#

the talent tree felt like a rework and the prot one was very well designed. idk, pwarr feels hella good and not dated at all imo

jagged pier
#

Press z dometimes

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Etcetc

strong forum
#

the reworks dont influence what buttons they use

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or what the buttons do

jagged pier
#

^

strong forum
#

they just get different allocated talent trees / numbers changes

#

which can change a whole dynamic

sick sentinel
#

Yeah, like the DH rework

strong forum
#

like our buttons are fine

#

everything about pwar is fine

sick sentinel
#

But PWar in and of itself is fine. Keep Block up, smack people, zug

toxic pewter
#

hmmm

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theres that word again..

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'fine'

strong forum
#

a warrior isnt about having fancy shit

sick sentinel
#

Bro, we are in a good spot

strong forum
#

its about SMASH

#

BUTTON DO NUMBER

toxic pewter
#

hmmm

urban portal
#

Prot warrior is the best designed out of the 3

#

You can say you want rework to get something fresh

sick sentinel
#

I can get to 1500 Solo Shuffle as PWar by not being regarded. The class does well

toxic pewter
#

there is a disturbance in the force..

urban portal
#

But there’s nothing wrong about the spec

sick sentinel
#

Imagine playing a spec that can zug in all content and be fine

jagged pier
#

So apb what u want is a new tank spec?

#

Not prot warrior

sick sentinel
#

I actually want a support war

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Shouts+Debuffs

hardy ridge
#

but thats a cool idea too

sick sentinel
jagged pier
toxic pewter
# jagged pier So apb what u want is a new tank spec?

not necessarily, I love prot warrior, but I guess I would like to see some sort of communication or iteration on the spec. it has been a year of any communication from blizz.. I will admit I don't even know if they consider it fine or bad spot. I guess you are right they prob think its fine

daring marlin
#

apb sounds like the type of person that needs to play alts but refuses to

toxic pewter
#

but something just has not felt right for a while

daring marlin
#

He's just bored of Warrior

sick sentinel
hardy ridge
sick sentinel
#

Yeah

daring marlin
#

Instead of playing an alt he wants the class to be overhauled to feel fresh

urban portal
#

Look at the mess that’s arms and fury

#

And compare to prot

sick sentinel
#

Yeah lol

toxic pewter
jagged pier
sick sentinel
#

I swapped to Prot PvP and despite a rating drop have been loving it

toxic pewter
#

who here thinks prot warr is great right now

#

type 1

sick sentinel
#

1

jagged pier
#

So he literally wants something not designed yet ergo a new spec

blazing condor
#

i like it

#

not as fun as in SL

hardy ridge
#

1

jagged pier
#

Its apb he makes generalized statements

#

With no facts

toxic pewter
daring marlin
#

I haven't liked prot this whole expansion because 5 cooldowns but I respect that people like it

#

I still play it 🤷‍♂️

strong forum
#

i like having offensive CDs

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i dont like how easy the tank is

#

but thats a ME issue

toxic pewter
strong forum
#

for the general game its good that its easy

sick sentinel
toxic pewter
#

that why I want some communication or a rework

jagged pier
sick sentinel
#

Bear.exe

hardy ridge
#

i like the multiple cds and how you can use them together to empower them

toxic pewter
sick sentinel
#

You have other alternatives than trying to make PWar something it is not

daring marlin
#

also classes that got reworked were genuinely broken

#

in a bad way

toxic pewter
sick sentinel
toxic pewter
#

yeah well

#

I guess i want more than fine

sick sentinel
jagged pier
#

I mean i dont think any spec in the game os more than fine

#

Because the dumbed them all down

hardy ridge
#

imo the spec was fine in shadowlands but now its great

jagged pier
#

I like high ceiling classes

#

There are none left

sick sentinel
toxic pewter
#

yah exactly, that is why I want some reworks that actually add more depth to specs

daring marlin
#

That's not what the reworks did lol

toxic pewter
#

I guess I have just a grass is greener mentality

jagged pier
sick sentinel
#

Then go play FotM

daring marlin
#

mf you're literally just bored

hardy ridge
toxic pewter
sick sentinel
#

Go play Arcane if you want depth

toxic pewter
#

well yeah when all you have to do is stand around in org it does tend to happen

sick sentinel
#

Then realize you hate yourself for playing Arcane

sick sentinel
toxic pewter
#

i been playing cs2

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and other stuff

sick sentinel
#

There is so much shit to farm in this game to not be sitting in Capital City.exe

toxic pewter
#

i dont do fotm

#

lol

urban portal
#

No tank has depth

#

The depth of a tank is doing the content

sick sentinel
#

Yeah, defeats the point of a tank

urban portal
#

Not the class itself

toxic pewter
urban portal
#

Tank difficulty scales exponentially with key level

toxic pewter
#

they dumbed down a lot of shit

sick sentinel
#

Or pvp rating

hardy ridge
sick sentinel
urban portal
#

Not only does each key level hit harder you also have to pull more to time

toxic pewter
#

Just how I feel and I make no apologies

#

time will prove me right in the end

#

ill go play cs2

hardy ridge
#

the only time that would prove you right is if the last tier lasted for 2 years

urban portal
#

Time didn’t prove you right about venthyr prot

sick sentinel
#

Lmao

toxic pewter
#

I stand by venthyr

#

everyone loves condemn

blazing condor
sick sentinel
#

Condemn is ass on PWar though

hardy ridge
#

no way bro thought venthyr prot was good

sick sentinel
#

Venthyr was a Dps War thing

toxic pewter
#

i never used it but i did think condemn was a cool ability

daring marlin
#

muh goalposts

sick sentinel
#

Oh yeah, apb be shifty

toxic pewter
#

venthyr was great

sick sentinel
#

Not on PWar

hardy ridge
#

oh yeah venthyr prot def had potential to be hella cool but it was ass. maybe if they made condemn have a cd and generate rage idk

toxic pewter
#

if they just made condemn an ability in df i would of been redeemed

urban portal
#

There was not a single logged 21 key on venth prot

#

When night fae and Kyrian had people doing 24s ish

toxic pewter
#

condemn was a cool ability tho

#

that was my main thing I thought condemn was cool

hardy ridge
#

yeah it was

#

it was just not implemented properly for wparr unfortunately

toxic pewter
#

banner was cool too obviously

#

all the sl prot warr abilities were cool

#

but condemn was coolest one

#

banner most useful one i guess in s3/4

blazing condor
#

NF ability was always good

sick sentinel
#

NF was just overshadowed

#

Especially for Dps War

blazing condor
#

i never played nf mysel

#

just kyrian > nl

urban portal
#

Nf was fine until 9.2

urban portal
#

Turns out it just enabled another filler

#

Blizzard said to stop playing condemn in end of 9.0 when they buffed execute and not condemn

toxic pewter
#

yeah I actually remember they did that

sick sentinel
#

Yup

urban portal
#

And then they did it again

lusty tiger
#

Gm prot

urban portal
#

Not to mention all the execute synergies were nerfed for condemn

#

So your actual end of boss execute was weaker

cinder storm
#

Only reason pwar were going venthyr was because people would not drop their bis covenant for the bad one for a few dungeons

#

S1 was bad

#

I mean, it was about "meaningful choices" okayge

lusty tiger
#

S3.5-s4 was AMAZING

#

Perhaps better than DF

cinder storm
#

not a hot take

#

but a based one

lusty tiger
#

The grind to get a toon going was fast and easy but still meaningful

#

The new tiersets were pog

sick sentinel
#

RB spam was fun lmao

mighty valley
#

I stuck with venthyr for vibes until near the end of s2

#

It was truly indefensible after 9.0.5

blazing condor
#

push groups needed a venth

#

so pwarrs just went vent

#

for SD/HoA

mighty valley
#

In 9.0 we also had the highest pwarr single target parses 💪

#

So that was… something

#

And the best transmogs

blazing condor
#

CN 😻

#

sludgefist my beloved

urban portal
#

When the 100 parse arms can’t beat 11 parse boomkin

#

Because cds were messed up

mighty valley
#

I think it’s wrong when boomkin is a top tier spec

#

Because they look silly

#

Silly guys shouldn’t also get #1 damage

#

That’s game design law

toxic pewter
#

they got new moonkin update in 10.2

median tulip
# blazing condor sludgefist my beloved

Sludgefist was hilarious. All the other tanks being all "gotta play defensively and share the damage", and I'm just there like "have you thought about using a shield?"

#

I'm just too Plate to care about this

jagged pier
#

I was the second warrior to kill it with rep gladge was a good fight

strong forum
#

Most perfect rep fight

#

In history

#

Anybody who disagreed was dogshit at the game

#

"you gotta stay close to your partner you can't charge weave"

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jagged pier
#

Brah u moved out all the time

#

And i ended up just intervening the tank othe tank anyway cause double melees did nothing cause block

strong forum
#

Yep

#

Did the same for my cotank

#

Cuz he needed to settle in with souls after pillars

#

So I intervene him so he wouldn't get removed

jagged pier
#

Oof dh tank on sludge deadge

blazing condor
jagged pier
blazing condor
#

i felt real cool with 100% uptime

strong forum
#

Certified cool

blazing condor
#

cus it was right on melee anyway

golden trout
#

should i have charge and shield charge on my bars or just use charge?

blazing condor
#

you use both

#

shield charge is p much just an offensive CD

golden trout
#

gotcha

#

hmm im trying to drop one thing from my bars but not sure what ha

blazing condor
#

whirlwind/slam/hamstring

#

can usually go

#

definitely the first two at least

golden trout
#

ok so dont usually need hamstring? i arleady dont have ww and slam

blazing condor
#

you pretty much dont need it but it CAN be used in certain situations

#

if you feel cramped for space

#

i wouldnt use it

golden trout
#

gotcha

lime urchin
#

You could macro hamstring into regular charge

golden trout
#

just this
/Cast charge
/Cast hamstring

grim pilot
#

hamstring is not a bad option in certain situations

#

I wouldn't macro it to anything

#

It's your only slow since piercing howl is expensive to take

golden trout
#

anyone have any tanking plater profiles they like?

strong forum
#

Xepheris plater profile is really good

left basalt
#

I personally like Quazii’s

golden trout
#

ill check them both out and give it a try

#

trying to get things set up for my foray into more tanking, figuring out how to mark stuff is probably my next task lol

strong forum
#

ye quazii's plater looks similar to mine and xephs aswell

hardy snow
#

im using threatplates cause Ive started using it long time ago and im too lazy to configure and get used to something new warriorbrain

jagged pier
#

Same

toxic pewter
#

Many people don’t use nameplates at all

teal swift
#

@jagged pier help

blazing condor
#

threatplates gang

lusty grotto
#

if you read the blood and thunder tooltip you will understand

#

you dont need rend in your bars at all

teal swift
#

I cant actually find blood and thunder

#

where is it roughly

#

these new talents are exhausting