gloomy ferry
and question on mastery
#protection
lusty grotto
not really
its ok to have some
you shouldn't avoid pieces with it, is what im saying
theres no stat that you want to actively avoid
bleak breach
@gloomy ferry Sporecloak is a solid choice for prog, otherwise the allied wrists of companionship can be a nice stat stick. Get haste, crit and vers
Should be able to passively obtain some mastery, likely a bit from tier and either trinkets (depending on effect) I.e beacon or from the frostflame belt, which will likely just infront of shadow flame patch after their nerfs
I’m not 100% sure and could definitely be wrong, but I don’t remember seeing the frostflame belt on the nerf list? Unsure I’d have to confirm.
uneven mason
I wasn't really for the Pandaren, but NGL this dude looks good
lusty grotto
indeed he does
warm plinth
Pandaren are underrated tbh
lusty grotto
agreed
warm plinth
Like come on, 50% reduced fall damage, double well fed buff?
dusky canopy
Ngl that dude kinda cool!
pallid quiver
aesthetic cool
warm plinth
Not to mention a single target incap
dusky canopy
You might have me convinced
pallid quiver
I like pandas
lusty grotto
whenever i atomic recalibrate i always stop on either pandas or kultiran
dusky canopy
I’d have to find a panda mog for warrior
warm plinth
Kul Tiran heritage armor is the fucking goat
The women jump super fucking weirdly though
bleak breach
Poor pandas ruined by the food embellishment
vestal moat
Does ignore pain generate some threat?
bleak breach
Yeah that’s fair
lusty grotto
Does ignore pain generate some threat?
perhaps extremely small amounts due to being a shield
nothing that you need to concern yourself with
bleak breach
I love pandas, they were an awesome addition
Always liked them since playing Warcraft
toxic pewter
where my darkspear heritage armor
my fav wc3 unit were the troll headhunters/berserkers that why i play a troll
sick sentinel
i mean
lusty grotto
well hopefully its a banger
sick sentinel
if you go back to wc3 wc2 they didnt barely wear any armor hardly at al
toxic pewter
lol yeah but darkspears definitely have a heritage and i hope they do them justice 🙏
lusty grotto
that's kinda true yogi
toxic pewter
can say same thing about taurens
lusty grotto
ye
toxic pewter
in w3 they were just walking around with their totem
sick sentinel
makes sense for tauren at least
its a giant bull creature
like, what armor does it need
lusty grotto
also pandaren dont have heritage yet either
toxic pewter
oh ya right
toxic pewter
this is me how i look in game
lusty grotto
but no heritage, so its just draenei, trolls and pandas
toxic pewter
panda gonna be great too i hope
they have a lot of potential for best heritage armor of all time
sick sentinel
theres a possibility berserker class
focus on thrown weapons or melee
just a ranged physical dude chucks spears and daggers at enemies and rages
toxic pewter
yeah that would be cool
basically troll heritage armor has to look like vol'jin
my warchief.. reign ended so soon 😢
killed by a simple demon npc rip
lusty grotto
another reason to hate SL
toxic pewter
lol
sick sentinel
i think they were called head hunters in wc3
toxic pewter
they really did do vol jin diry imo
lusty grotto
indeed
sick sentinel
and then they upgrade in to berserers or i forget/dont care
toxic pewter
yah head hunters.. then were able to upgrade the unit to berserker in the xpac
lusty grotto
but not as dirty as arthas lmao
toxic pewter
yeah i will never forgive them for what they did to arthas
netflix has a animated wow show coming
i wonder what it will be like
sick sentinel
all i know is that a whole bunch of zerkers + witchdoctor ult (mass bubble for everyone but him and has to be channeled) was disgusting
get your troops in in a 2v2 3v3 4v4 and hit that button
dudes go ape
toxic pewter
hell yea
sick sentinel
hopefully lost under yourawllies anempaltse so enemy cant target him in ttime
toxic pewter
troll units were my favorite.. even had troll batriders
witch doctor of course
and the shadow hunter hero
mighty valley
netflix has a animated wow show coming
you gotta stop falling for fake leaks
toxic pewter
wat u mean
mighty valley
the "leak" that suggested an upcoming warcraft netflix show was fake as hell
sick sentinel
i dont know if i'd watch a netflix weow thing
toxic pewter
warcraft chronicles is the name
sick sentinel
netflix kinda passe for me
toxic pewter
yeah I dont really like netflix either but will still watch it
mighty valley
the fake leak used someone's fanart to make the mocked up title screen
toxic pewter
damn really
mighty valley
the fanartist came forward and said "yeah that's my art, this is not a real show"
toxic pewter
damn
mighty valley
i'm also sorry to say we're not getting a void expansion with a shaman tank and a Shouting Warrior
lusty grotto
mighty valley
how come you use a Niffen as your pfp when you think Zaralek Caverns was an historic atrocity
mighty valley
zaralek can't have been that bad if it gave us cute little guys
toxic pewter
i used it before the patch hit to be fair
now i wear it ironically
because even this cute lil niffen proved to be a failure unfortunately.. sorry to say
shakes head dejectedly
mighty valley
what was so bad about zaralek
toxic pewter
if you have to ask the question, you already know the answer
mighty valley
that's. that's the opposite of what questions are for
sick sentinel
mostly just a bunch of over hyped lies and a b8g n9thing and s9me low drop rate stuff
sick sentinel
i thought zm was just fine
toxic pewter
yah zm was better for some reason even though it was designed under similar circumstance where 'nothing matters'
sick sentinel
they lied about how big and important it is but it wasnt bad
lusty grotto
Zaralek just failed cause they made an event that nobody does because its way too fucking hard for what it gives and because they moved every single catchup event OUT of it
like researchers under fire is such a shit event
toxic pewter
all df events are dog shit and i hope they move away from them
sick sentinel
i gave up farming zm cuz of the artificial bag filler uppers in form of currencies
toxic pewter
i am tired of seeing them
toxic pewter
i think they are all awful
sick sentinel
that and i got most of the mogs i wanted
lusty grotto
dreamsurges and the time thingies helped me gear up alts fast so i cant complain
plus they are easy enough
sick sentinel
dreamsurge is just half baked is only thing
toxic pewter
just wish the next xpac they make the zones actually matter again, not just having everyone wait for these forumalic timed events that are the same every time. wow has become this game of literally standing around waiting for x y z to pop
and its tiresome to say the least
wow needs to get moving again
literally
mighty valley
like in classic where literally nothing happens in the zones ever?
lusty grotto
has become this game of literally standing around waiting for x y z to pop
it has been this way since day 1 of vanilla
it hasnt become
thats what it IS
toxic pewter
the difference is it was worth it in vanilla
because you were working toward a greater goal
toxic pewter
its not though
vanilla wow was designed better
and each xpac since it has degraded
toxic pewter
I do still prefer retail in a lot of ways also though its a constant struggle
i wish there was some way to merge it all
mighty valley
once you started raiding in vanilla, there was absolutely no gain to anything else unless you were willing to dedicate a chunk of life to battlegrounds grind
lusty grotto
mighty valley
apb, sometimes i think you invent strong opinions just for the thrill of having them
toxic pewter
yeah well at last the grinds were worth something
attained things no one else had the ability to do
and you sat there in org or if or sw and people wished they were you
they looked up to those people
and now its all gone
just to please the masses
i say for shame
mighty valley
apb, everything in classic was easier, but everyone was also just more ignorant
you're just wishing we could return to innocence
toxic pewter
apb, sometimes i think you invent strong opinions just for the thrill of having ...
you have known me for a long time now
mighty valley
you don't want the game to revert to that, you want to go back in time to when you felt excitement
toxic pewter
I WANT TO FEEL ALIVE AGAIN
lusty grotto
thats nostalgia by definition
toxic pewter
Its not entirely nostalgia when I say vanilla was better designed
i actually do believe it
but i do agree perhaps it is not an ideal fit for todays times
lusty grotto
we've had this conversation before
lusty grotto
in fact, ive said deja vu over it like 2 other times
toxic pewter
oh i didnt realize
sick sentinel
the only old game that gets better with multiple play throughs is max payne 1 / 2 still today its slow motion is top tier
mighty valley
the perfect yogi opinion doesn't exi-
opaque quest
You should join arguing groups
Pro life pro choice arguing is a hell of a drug and since you like arguing for the sake of arguing 🤷♂️
toxic pewter
wat who say i like arguin
urban portal
You can literally play vanilla
Idk why this is even a question
Wish there’s classic league though
Now that’s some rose tinted glasses
opaque quest
I just want MoP Classic
Then do Mage CM
And have them merge
So i got all 12 sets
mighty valley
they should run a classic server for every single player's favorite era of the game
and the world's governments force people to populate those servers at all times
mighty valley
you're mocking my good ideas
opaque quest
you're mocking my good ideas
Im just trying to be the pinky to your brain ❤️
mighty valley
❤️
opaque quest
So you sayin', I can force ppl to play shadowlands?
jagged gust
and you sat there in org or if or sw and people wished they were you
I actually do miss this, standing in IF basking in all of the random people who stop to inspect my sweet, sweet Full T6 loots
pallid quiver
They were probably standed there in fear of how god awful they'd have to look if they wanted as much power as you
t6 wasn't bad tho, not like naxx gear
lusty grotto
tepid vers
viral tusk
how do you view stances in logs if someone never changes stances? Needing for log review
opaque quest
Not sure but my gut tells me buff uptime?
lusty grotto
you cant view stances in logs, unless if you swap to them in combat
and it only tracks what was switched to, which should be pretty obvious given its only 2 choices
opaque quest
Ye just checked. Only shows the attunements from aug
But if dude doesnt swap from def stance its bad. Might aswell tell him that. If hes only in bstance its better unless hes dying. Then thats bad too
lusty grotto
pretty much
bleak breach
Purely damage corrupting rage will equal more, but tepid vers provides more like healing and damage reduction. Also they’re cheaper
opaque quest
Corruptin Rage wont have alot of uptime as tank tho will it
In M+ at least
Does the debuff that disables the phial have ICD?
bleak breach
Honestly not sure, just going off of bloodmallet. I use tepid vers anyway, I feel it provides more overall.
opaque quest
Ye same. I'd guess in M+ the phial has like 10% uptime. In Raid when offtanking a bit more
lusty grotto
Corruptin Rage wont have alot of uptime as tank tho will it
no, its not as good
all 100% parses use tepid
in wcl
lusty grotto
i use corrupting on evoker and mage for sure at the very least
opaque quest
Good thing i dont play those 2 
Fuck casters apart from heal
lusty grotto
bleak breach
I just run tepid vers all the time anyway. I don’t really see a lot of people run much else. Static empowerment is the best by a mile, but when do you stand still?
lusty grotto
well tbf fire is pretty mobile since you dont really cast
with 4pc and phoenix flames
modern brook
Isn't the get punched one bis
pallid quiver
It's not as good in ST
pallid quiver
You know those times when you go into a pug, somehow managed to scrape up to a boss, like 5-man the boss, leave, and then spend 30 minutes contemplating your life decisions? How does everyone else here handle that feeling?
blazing condor
Meth
ionic fern
Methodologically you mean?
pallid quiver
Nah, I mean more like what kinda trash do you filter the bad times out with
pallid quiver
Because I am content with classifying that as "a group", definitely filled with players very far from me in terms of goals
but wow
that one was a miracle
HotS would be a good one if I kept up with that game
pallid quiver
i last played when it was being updated
But I mostly mean if it was still installed
I liked it, but my competitive game urge is mostly sated by fighting games and sometimes shooters
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
ionic fern
Hi, ily.
thorny stone
You know those times when you go into a pug, somehow managed to scrape up to a b...
I avoid those situations altogether by only playing with people I know. I'll rather uninstall than pug.
pallid quiver
I have better times pugging than playing with people I know.
That's because the people I know aren't friends.
There's a reason they're not friends of mine.
thorny stone
_There's a reason they're not friends of mine._
I would try to make new friends, join a guild, a community, w/e
Its a MMO afterall
It took me two years to create a solid group of people with a similar mindset and skill, we even rented a house this summer to hangout
grim pilot
Everyone in my guild is 30-40 y/o so I would feel like im hanging out with my parents’ friends
warm plinth
maybe you should just be older
pallid quiver
I really don't mind pugging, since my main enjoyment is doing the best I can no matter my situation; I don't play for gear or to clear content. As long as I find something to improve, I'm fine
but man
sometimes people blow up on each other or just
don't play the game at all
And I get so confused. What do people get from playing the game? What enjoyment is there?
I just physically can't understand and it drives me nuts
It's not like they're pissing time away with friends, either
blazing condor
Ppl r addicted
And got nothing else to do in their lives
Why u think league is still a thing
No one enjoys that
warm plinth
I'm addicted to you ❤️
blazing condor
Oh my ghash
sweet summit
good stuff le dog
pale karma
Someone told me that "warriors in general have the worst survibaility against big hits this [aberrus] tier, will be a lot better next tier"
Is that true? I'm not an expert on other tanks but what do they have that we dont?
warm plinth
wat
pale karma
It's not the first time someone has said this. Was there some patch in the past that caused the reputation?
pale karma
What's the fundamental misunderstanding?
Him:
just experience tbh, we've had a couple of prot warrios and honestly they tend to get the shit smacked out of htem the hardest
hardy snow
Well, if you dont have shield block up and dont pop up defensive like shield wall, big hit is indeed hard to survive
pale karma
I'm pretty sure I was sdoing fundamentals right. Shield block and ignore pain up, use cds without overlapping.
pale karma
lol
warm plinth
Ignore Pain is not something you need to aim to have up. If you're playing properly, it will be up most of the time anyway.
If you're looking for feedback on your gameplay, show us logs and we're happy to give you feedback.
pale karma
Hmm
ionic fern
Generally speaking we are really good against spread out big hits.
What we "struggle" with is constant damage magic damage/dots (Experiments/Zkarn).
But even this is survivable if you play it properly.
pale karma
This was on experiments.
pale karma
Yes it's rather awful.
ionic fern
You play around this by:
1)Prioritising IP over Revenge when at higher stacks (if needed).
2)Planning your CD's
3)Clearing stacks properly
4)Asking for attack speed slows on bosses
5)Being vocal, asking for externals
6)Using a on-use absorb trinket if needed.
pallid quiver
Ort weakness, whichever one it is
my weeb game history causes me pain with that sentence
and only recently has non-mega weebs begun to understand the fear of ort
ionic fern
Gotta say, you are way too deep for me today, Luerce.
pale karma
You play around this by:
1)Prioritising IP over Revenge when at higher stacks (i...
Thank you, that's a good list.
pallid quiver
I respond to Ort on a dime after years of being told to fear it
though i normally see it as ORT
ionic fern
Thank you, that's a good list.
Also, be sure to tank the 2nd boss that comes down as much as possible.
The 3rd one will put way more stacks on you.
So ask your co-tank to tank the 3rd one.
While you take the 2nd one.
pallid quiver
I can't really add much more than Mwahi, since he covered pretty much all the basic go-to's
It really helps to clear your stacks as often as the raid situation allows, too, since it can grow to be pretty nasty
pale karma
The 3rd one will put way more stacks on you.
Riothus (the deep breath one) puts more stacks on you?
ionic fern
Yes.
Idk if it's because he melees faster, or because he has less mechanics that prevent him from meleeing.
The 2nd dude always casts some crap, barely melees you.
pallid quiver
And remember to keep your rage flowing as much as possible; the more you generate, the more you'll have SW, meaning you can cover more situations you need to plan for
that's just basic gameplay, but
pale karma
Do you prefer to use SW first because of the longer CD?
pallid quiver
Anger Management refreshes its CD
hardy snow
and in extreme situation - just clear despite granting 2nd stack to raid, but inform healers about that, 2 stacks wont wipe your group, but if tanks dies to stacks - its a wipe usually
pallid quiver
When playing properly, it's like a 1-1.5 min CD
It's also chunkier than spell reflect, and spell block doesn't help at all in that fight (the main damage hurting you is not spell blockable due to being a dot)
pale karma
Something I should know - if you cast demo on a mob that has a dot on you, does it reduce the pre-existing dot dmg?
pallid quiver
Iirc, it should be dynamically reduced like that; damage doesn't tend to snapshot in retail WoW
Though as an aside that's not relevant, Demo won't reduce environmental damage caused by the boss (ground swirlies and the like)
pale karma
snapshot in retail WoW
That brings back memories.
Another question - do you have any tips for collecting adds on fights like Assault while minimising movement?
I can throw ravager out, I can use throw but that's one by one.
pallid quiver
Pre-positioning is going to be the absolute main thing in Assault for War
Also, leap resets the CD on taunt, so you can also taunt to pull one, leap, taunt, then get aggro as they walk towards you
pale karma
Positioning can be challenging there because dps obviously wants to cleave the adds with the mystic but I hear you. Didn't know leap reset taunt.
pallid quiver
It's a fringe benefit that most people don't know
pale karma
Once I have lots of adds I sometimes find threat to be a bit dicey during thunderclap's cooldown. Revenge works of course but spamming it risks essentials dropping off. Any thoughts?
pallid quiver
But yeah, War doesn't really have easily available ranged aoe options just due to our kit; don't have Avenger's Shield or Keg Smash or anything
warm plinth
You should not be losing aggro once you have the mobs on you so idk there
pallid quiver
^^^
pale karma
Between thunderclap and revenge?
I'm specifically speaking about the first 4 seconds (the first tc cd)
pallid quiver
I could see it if the DPS start blasting and like, you used Rav to pull and didn't press Avatar or anything, but
War normally has some pretty good snap threat when starting a pull, particularly with all CDs available
I'd honestly probably need to see a vod for that one to see exactly what's happening with that one
warm plinth
yeah once I thunder clap once I generally never lose threat
hardy snow
Another question - do you have any tips for collecting adds on fights like Assau...
heroic throw them, if DPS gets agro because of urge to pad its their problem and they should drag mob to you if you already hold rest of mobs, you should easily take over with just rotation of TC and Revenge
also teach your DPS to throw rocks so you have less adds and thats this fight is ST, only boss and magma add matters, rest is just soft cleave without need to focus on
pale karma
makes sense
pallid quiver
but how will the tank ever get aggro, mwahi?
That dps just knows they're just blasting so hard, it can't be helped,
ionic fern
Eh?
pallid quiver
They're so cool and awesome and just too good at the game smh
Trying to get DPS to run at you with a mob is surprisingly difficult
Took me years of training to get one of my friends to respond that way
ionic fern
The adds spawn so spread.
The DPS will focus on the adds that are the most clumped(SINCE MUH DPS PARSE) - this is usually around the tank.
The majority of "new add" spawns will be aggrod to DPS due to some "random AoE" they shoot out - aka they have almost no built up aggro on them.
But as said before, TC/Taunt/Leap-Taunt/AoE-Taunt/Heroic Throw.
All work.
pale karma
Shall we shed a tear for the DPS because of the stress of log parses?
ionic fern
What ever gets them going.
pallid quiver
Also, if you are using Ravager to pull, you should at least end up on your Ravager in the end
ionic fern
I also enjoy parsing..as long as it's about skill.
Currently your parsing is about "did my beacon crit?"
Which i find..un-enjoyable.
pallid quiver
If you're not, that might be why you're losing aggro if they're popping every last CD and all you pressed is TC or like a Heroic Throw
pallid quiver
Currently your parsing is about "did my beacon crit?"
as someone without beacon, this is one part of the reason why I'm fine with anywhere from 90s-95s atm
the other part being that i still ain't even 44x this season zzzz
warm plinth
Orange or bust
pallid quiver
That'd require me to have to hit keys
hardy snow
Which i find..un-enjoyable.
yeah that sucks
especialy if its further extended by "did my anvil proc good?" "did my forgestorm proc good?" 😐
blazing condor
Currently your parsing is about "did my beacon crit?"
thats why my parses are bad cus i dont have beacon
ionic fern
I mean, they don't even have to be bad neccessarily..
But for me personally, i used to aim for 99-100 parses only.
So if you're satisfied with like 80 or w/e.
pallid quiver
Bare minimum, that's been my goal for ilvl% at least
ionic fern
That's chill.
blazing condor
i mean yeah sure if youre above 50 youre better than average
but i also used to be a 99 parser
pallid quiver
But it feels bad to see me at like 97% ilvl and check the gear of someone else close
and they just had beacon
blazing condor
now im barely doing 95s
pale karma
Here is a log from one of the attempts. Please roast me lol. For some context, recently joined the guild. They're reforming and have had a lot of churn on tanks. I know it takes some time to start to learn how the other tank moves, who's talking on Discord, house strats, and all that.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/anVC3B89TAxjFpgf#fight=17
blazing condor
41 cpm 
ionic fern
Form the get-go.
pallid quiver
Just at an instant glance at casts, without even looking at the cast breakdown, 41.9 CPM feels real bad
ionic fern
pallid quiver
You should definitely be pushing like 80 CPM-ish min
blazing condor
im sorry mwahi
warm plinth
80
pale karma
Okay I'm now wondering if I'm missing something obvious on my bars because what else is there to click!
blazing condor
you rotate shield slam > tc > revenge/ip mostly
strong forum
I kinda gave up with parsing this tier.
This tier is/was dominated heavily by rng and insanely by gear
pallid quiver
Here is a log from one of the attempts. Please roast me lol. For some context, r...
You could have gotten a lot more use out of all of your CDs. For example, T Roar should have a 1 min CD since you have the 30s reduction, so you should have twice the number of uses (unless you died, haven't checked that yet) if the pull lasted over 4 mins
strong forum
So I can defo understand that
ionic fern
Okay I'm now wondering if I'm missing something obvious on my bars because what ...
You are pressing things. But you are not pressing them on CD.
14 CPM SS on Kazzara is a ugh...
pallid quiver
Okay I'm now wondering if I'm missing something obvious on my bars because what ...
The main thing is you're not pressing your buttons actively enough when you can; you pressed Revenge literally 7 times over 4 minutes
On Experiments
pale karma
I think by that attempt I was stressed and prioritising rage for ignore pain over revenge but I hear you
pallid quiver
There's a high likelihood (read, bare minimum guarantee) that you're letting globals sit
pale karma
What else?
warm plinth
You have 7 casts of Shield Block the entire 4 minutes and 20 seconds
ionic fern
Chad.
warm plinth
That's 30% shield slam damage missing for most of the fight
blazing condor
I think by that attempt I was stressed and prioritising rage for ignore pain ove...
thing is the more casts you have the more rage you'll gain/be able to spend
because a lot of things feed into generating rage like abilities reseting Shield Slam
warm plinth
Not to mention you're not blocking the part of the fight you CAN block
blazing condor
even revenge resets shield slam
warm plinth
But yeah, the biggest problem is the 40 cpm
blazing condor
so if you want rage for IP you gotta press yo butons
warm plinth
You should have like at least 60 cpm
and closer to 70 would be ideal
So you're effectively missing 30% of your casts every minute
pallid quiver
On the assault kill, you also have 56% blocked hits
pale karma
fuck
pallid quiver
That's really rough, considering we can have 100% block uptime
pallid quiver
That one at a casualy glance looks a lot like you're getting slapped in the back a lot, too
blazing condor
maybe you had your back turned against a mob
pallid quiver
And you also only got 3 casts of T Roar out over 5 minutes
warm plinth
Make sure you're spending your violent outburst on SS. Half your outbursts went to TC (I'm looking at the Experiments fight)
pallid quiver
Well, it was on a 1.5 min CD for that fight, so there's that
pallid quiver
Make sure you're spending your violent outburst on SS. Half your outbursts went ...
This will shoot up your rage gen by a lot
pallid quiver
Outburst SS gives just shy of 40 rage with the current talents we tend to run, while TC gives, uh
10
warm plinth
shh
strong forum
Like in here there are like 5 seconds of not pressing a single dmg button
warm plinth
also I would've done timeline but I'm in a dungeon so I just used what was in front of me XD
pallid quiver
Okay, it looks like you were just dead the entire rest of the fight, so your CPM looks better when we look at only when you were alive
however
blazing condor
and you wanna press like ~2 abilities every gcd
pallid quiver
It's still only like 50 CPM
But you just spend a lot of time even in other fights just not pressing buttons for periods of time
pale karma
For CPM, do you think it's only registering my mouse click and not my keyboard presses?
(joking)
blazing condor
the big tldr is just press your buttons more
and obviously learn the right ability prios
pallid quiver
I might recommend swinging by a dummy and double checking that your muscle memory on your rotation is tight; you might feel that it is, but anytime you feel under pressure, it looks like you just crack and the execution is just blatantly not there
warm plinth
For CPM, do you think it's only registering my mouse click and not my keyboard p...
:sus: what are you clicking
pallid quiver
This will really bite you on Experiments, since it means you can't count on Shield Wall to be reliably up, let alone frequently up
blazing condor
yeah you need high rage spending and cpm for that fight
cus anger management talent will help you
pale karma
Makes sense. It is first time in a new raid with new people late into the tier so there is a lot of pressure FWIW.
I'm also wondering how UI tweaks could help things information wise.
blazing condor
id say focus on playing your spec well before trying to raidlead
its gonna be better for the raid if you can be a safe card and not die
hardy snow
also try craft 447 shield - its important to have highest ilvl shield you can 
pale karma
You're all legends. Thank you for the feedback
blazing condor
u can do it
pale karma
Any suggestions for addons and weakauras? I'm currently trying the omnibus warrior one and one I wrote for personal cd bars.
warm plinth
never heard of it
rage bar, outburst tracker, SB uptime tracker, and CDs
that's all you really need
pale karma
Oh omnibus as in it has everything in it
pallid quiver
You'll need to track:
Outburst
Notable CDs
Shield Block
blazing condor
Yeah Outburst, Shield block, rage, cds
it can be good to see uptime on your defensives as well so you know when ur shield block/last stand/spell reflect runs out
pallid quiver
Off the top of my head, I don't know how well any of the general utility WA suites (Luxthos/Afenar and the like) track outburst, so I recommend getting a dedicated one for it
pale karma
Some of them are form over function.
blazing condor
im always an advocate for creating your own stuff if you have the energy for it
but there are good WA packs and UIs out there
pale karma
I have been some basic ones 🙂
pallid quiver
I stole a good chunk of Nome's as a base and adjusted my own for a lot of stuff just to make it neater to me
blazing condor
i dont even know how to do WAs im a TMW boomer
warm plinth
wow
blazing condor
fite me
warm plinth
I can't, I have 289 ms right now
warm plinth
got stuck on oceanic realm
blazing condor
say hi to neptulon for me
warm plinth
It's not cata week
blazing condor
i thought he also was stuck in the oceanic realm
warm plinth
ba-dum-tiss
daring moon
Waaaait, our IP doesn't stack anymore?
warm plinth
It does
warm plinth
pallid quiver
So that's where someone heard it from
warm plinth
Well
pallid quiver
Someone was deadass intent on telling me IP was nerfed and doesn't stack anymore
warm plinth
It's because people read datamining like it's the gospel
Without actually using their brain
pallid quiver
And that's why Prot War is no longer dominant like S1
warm plinth
same way people think immovable object makes avatar give them 10% DR
because it's in the datamining literally every time that avatar is mentioned
rich wyvern
Someone was deadass intent on telling me IP was nerfed and doesn't stack anymore
Maybe they think that the % not stacking means that the “shield” value doesn’t stack? Idk
warm plinth
No it's literally because of this in the datamining
It's why you always wait for the blue post 👍
daring moon
I don't even know wtf that means
pallid quiver
It's just listing what the cap is
daring moon
IP makes me take less dick from bosses, aight
pallid quiver
which is the 30% max hp
rich wyvern
No it's literally because of this in the datamining
This wouldn’t even imply a stacking change though - seems odd to me
Unless they just collectively misread something that flat-out isn’t there, even in the data mining
warm plinth
we're getting there!
pallid quiver
Unless they just collectively misread something that flat-out isn’t there, even ...
My guess is people are really reaching to back their established narrative of "Prot War was the strongest tank, but was nerfed so Prot Pally became the strongest tank"
since like every source I ever saw noted that the nerfs to Prot War specifically were meant to be entirely negligible and were only made because War was popular.
That's almost literally what the blue post for the patch notes said, even
pallid quiver
we're getting there!
wait you did destro first?
You're the type of person who saves the cherry in the ice cream for last, the one who waits until the spaghetti is gone for meatball time
rich wyvern
we're getting there!
I do like that you can spot that the guardian druid is a Tauren from a mile away
hardy snow
we're getting there!
Nice one, I guess its going pretty fast thanks to current event?
rich wyvern
And is “locksaredumb” on 2 different servers
sick sentinel
new mario game out is ahat that should be showing
i cant think of any bad first party mario games besides one was 3do and maybe like mario goes back in time
hollow flower
We Had the discussion about the IP Data Mine already
It seems like they just changed the text for the talent tree
hollow flower
The old one said Up to what one Cast gives new one says up to the max amount
Just when you hover over the talent in the tree
It doesnt matter at all
lusty tiger
I’m never pressing IP then
rich wyvern
I feel like old tooltip was a better explanation of the actual effect when you cast it
waxen frigate
<:deadge:900279927138578432>
The only content IP in anymore is a toilet and your mom
lusty tiger
lusty tiger
https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-hop-on-hop-on-fortnite-sasuke-naruto-gif-2389528...
Gm nish
lusty tiger
Respect
nimble skiff
This is definitely a change from yesterday
lusty tiger
Nish and I keep the vibes in check
nimble skiff
Was gonna say after getting an okay feel for tanking yesterday I think I might send it on baby keys tonight but I gotta get a better 1h and shield first
nimble skiff
I hope it goes well. I think I'm gonna grab a 415 shield off dream surge first and upgrade it before I go at it
nimble skiff
Unless anyone knows a better place to grab a shield other than dreamsurge
sick sentinel
craft it
lusty tiger
Dream surges r good
lusty tiger
He hasn’t done m+ yet
sick sentinel
this is the worlds most durable bus in a video game
nimble skiff
Yeah I don't think I want to craft one yet in case I'm a total shit show at tanking and stick with fury
sick sentinel
i saw that happening last night and i was like what in the absolute fuck.... it just tapped the gaurd rail
lusty tiger
sick sentinel
yeah, i stressed out the engine going up a hill and then the gaurd rail went into the fuel tank causing a spark
causing the explosion
best i can come up with
nimble skiff
not the effect one (bus still uploading)
Is this jc4?
sick sentinel
3, i was about to buy 4
but then the sale went away,
steam sales come back all the damn time
nimble skiff
Ah okay. I have 2/3/4 but only partially played 2
Yeah the Halloween/fall sale is coming up soon prob
sick sentinel
2 is more of the same but its more fun overall generally if it doesnt crash
cuz, you only ever worry about heli, snipers and rockets
nothing else comese even remotely close to kill you in jc2
nimble skiff
Listen Scorpio just send it
sick sentinel
there is a little black and red heli in the shop, and if u max it, it gets doal chain cannons, the type that "deal siege damage to buildings" as it were
nimble skiff
JC in a nutshell
sick sentinel
and its also fast enough that it can out manevuer and speed evade everything to no combat including helis
so, it makes a great little assault vehicle, fly from town to town, blow up all the stuff u can
that and, parachute grapple is easily the fastest most safest reliable non heli method of transport, boat is okay too
waxen frigate
Nish and I keep the vibes in check
sick sentinel
im still in pure shock about that bus and it happened last night
uneven mason
not the effect one (bus still uploading)
What's that game
lusty tiger
@waxen frigate
sick sentinel
jc3, so 5 years old
there is a 4 and i would have bought it most likely but the sale ended sale for bf games ends on 26th, so im gunna have to buy those soon
just so i fuckin have them on pc and don't have to sub to ea whatever
urban bane
this server needs god
lusty tiger
lol
blazing condor
waxen frigate
this server needs god <:critcake:984549832511344640>
The only man in the sky is me
waxen frigate
https://tenor.com/view/ascension-sponge-bob-gif-15077046
Jeree you can be my god-queen
lusty tiger
uneven mason
so, activision is gunna rezzurection classic titles
Only Activision classic I want to see
blazing condor
Lost vikings classic Pog
sick sentinel
lost vikings could be one of those phone games
blazing condor
Could never complete that game as a kid
lusty grotto
Morning
inland raft
Yes in the classic game bundle thing
Bought it specifically to play lost bikings back when they put it on store
lusty grotto
Yeah I don't think I want to craft one yet in case I'm a total shit show at tank...
Craft it
Even if you're a total shits show
You should be swimming in sparks
And shield is our #1 craft
lusty tiger
Gm
nimble skiff
I'll look it up on wowhead, thanks.
lusty grotto
Primal molten shield
"Primal molten" is the name of generic blacksmith crafts
It's only replaced by a 450 mythic echo shield basically
Without crests it's base 424 3hich is higher ilvl than anything dreamsurges have to offer
rich wyvern
I do like that the shield can also have shadow flame patch on it, so it’s like
lusty grotto
And ilvl on a shield is the most important prot stat by a longshot
rich wyvern
Gigabis for first craft
lusty grotto
Because it's basically the only item source of block value
And higher ilvl = higher block value
i wouldnt put patch on it if they dont plan on only tanking
limits your options for embelishment combos on your dps specs since you cant put it on 2handers
lusty grotto
yeah tank only its a good spot to put it in
nimble skiff
Fury main here, but I want to push myself to be a better player and fully learn my class. Also to overcome my anxiety of tanking truthfully.
I always found it so intimidating to tank since you lead the group and pull. If anything goes wrong you get dumped on
hollow flower
Really Just dont Care that much about what people say
urban bane
Try not to over think prot warrior. And yeah, people in this game do dump on you but don't let that stick. Easier said than done, I'm sure
hollow flower
People are stupid
urban bane
Sometimes they'll dunk on you because you mess up; if that's the case learn from it and go next. Other times they're idiots. Go next.
hollow flower
Really nice If you have a tank friend who can play dd so for the start He can Tell you what to pull
nimble skiff
Yeah luckily the MT of my guild did the 5 weekly heroics with me last night and told me how to pull it as if it was mythic. First time he plays his warrior and gets gorehowl
hollow flower
Warri tanking is really nice since you Take very little damage
nimble skiff
I dont have a feel for damage taken since it was heroic
But it gave me a good feeling for my keybinds and what ability does what. Also helped me get my bearings since I'm usually just following the tank blindly
hollow flower
Fortified is Always a little more scary but damage intake will still be very little
modern brook
But it gave me a good feeling for my keybinds and what ability does what. Also h...
with as much love as i can muster - no it didnt
inland raft
fort only scary if pugging and the pugs dont know what an interrupt or stun is
modern brook
so much of prot warrior is proactive use of cooldowns
and the rest of it is rage management
neither of which you will learn until you're properly stressed
uneven mason
But it gave me a good feeling for my keybinds and what ability does what. Also h...
I can always recognize the "new tank" because they stand still after every pull, while at the same time if they were in their DPS spec emoboi would be fel rushing 3 rooms ahead and then having a temper tantrum when I don't rush to save them
nimble skiff
Okay, fair point. I'm at least happy with where my abilities sit
hollow flower
Proactive cooldown ussage took me a while to learn
nimble skiff
I was always moving and pulling cause that's what I see tanks do
I just need to learn where to stop pulling so I don't die on trash. Lol
uneven mason
I just need to learn where to stop pulling so I don't die on trash. Lol
This is incorrect
nimble skiff
Don't you pull x amount of groups depending on affixes?
uneven mason
You need to become more used to the proactive use of, and spacing of your CDs
uneven mason
Don't you pull x amount of groups depending on affixes?
Yes and no, it's really hard for prot to die to trash as long as kicks/stops are being utilized
Frequently the layout of the dungeon itself lends to what packs can be grouped
hollow flower
Also Sometimes you gotta Care a little about your group
uneven mason
Also Sometimes you gotta Care a little about your group
But only a little
Reading the pug is a learned skill unfortunately
hollow flower
Yeah why would we care we can survive it
uneven mason
Like you can have timmah with 2500 rating but it turns out that he gets carried by guild mates on Friday
Dude doesn't have his interrupted bound and does less damage than the healer
hollow flower
Hmmm Just do enough damage yourself its fine
uneven mason
And you can have ksm Andy with 2001 who's an absolute pumper
I guess the short of it is, go in expecting to carry 90% of the stops, and adjust pull sizes according to the effort your group puts out
hollow flower
I'd say start small and Go bigger until you realize its to much
uneven mason
Gigga pulling only comes into play in higher keys when you need to just to save time
uneven mason
You're not wrong, it's just not "required" until you get to a certain scale
hollow flower
As a complete beginner giga pulling is scary af
uneven mason
I'm a ksm Andy so I can pull boss to boss and not worry, but only if I confirm that Maximoose the paladin has rebuke bound
sick sentinel
Lmao
nimble skiff
I want to be a ksh andy
uneven mason
Gotta get them glows
modern brook
is this your first m+ season?
uneven mason
Tbh I might try and push toward that since we got another month
hollow flower
I need to get off my ass and get ports
What pve Item Level do you have?
uneven mason
Pvp gear is hawt
sick sentinel
What pve Item Level do you have?
Whatever Challenger II gear ends up as
Idk off top of head
hollow flower
Idk shit about pvp
sick sentinel
Pvp gear is hawt
Elite PvP set this tier is the best recolor
uneven mason
I used to pvp..............back in season 3
hollow flower
I Like heroic more
uneven mason
Because S3 had better stats than warriors t6
uneven mason
S3 was with black temple
T6 dropped in hyjal and bt
The boot belt and bracer for t6 dropped in sunwell
Sunwell was like t6.5
sick sentinel
Sunwell was "oh fuck, we need a new raid"
uneven mason
I mean they released bt too soon
lusty tiger
sunwell is based
sick sentinel
It's too easy by our standards now though
uneven mason
That being said, they had the EverQuest progression mentality back then
lusty tiger
you'd be surprised
uneven mason
It's too easy by our standards now though
Sunwell is still a nightmare
lusty tiger
yep
sick sentinel
But they absolutely should look into revamping older raids and give them Heroic/Mythic versions
uneven mason
They nerfed it for tbc classic, twice
nimble skiff
is this your first m+ season?
If this was towards me, first season I stopped caring about getting a guild group and accepting the pug life
sick sentinel
Pug Warrior
You poor bastard
uneven mason
But yeah they believed in content being gated by content and gear, not by patch cadence
nimble skiff
>Pug Warrior
You poor bastard
Pugging as fury at that
lusty tiger
But yeah they believed in content being gated by content and gear, not by patch ...
keeps it all relevant though
uneven mason
Yeah
sick sentinel
I mean, people didn't clear Kael'thas until BT was released
modern brook
If this was towards me, first season I stopped caring about getting a guild grou...
Good luck :^) I legit stopped playing rather than deal with that.
KSH is an achievable goal if this isnt your first rodeo through M+ / you're familiar with dungeons
nimble skiff
I've just adapted the mantra "f it, just sent it"
hollow flower
Hot Take: pugging isnt as bad
uneven mason
Had to do heroic dungeons to get into the intro raids, had to do the intro raids to get into the next tier, next tier had a quest chain for hyjal, which in turn gated bt
hollow flower
Thats the best
modern brook
Hot Take: pugging isnt as bad
I dont pay 15 dollars a month and 30+ minutes of my time for "not as bad" tbh
just not worth the commitment imo
But if you enjoy it thats sick continue to :^)
lusty tiger
I dont pay 15 dollars a month and 30+ minutes of my time for "not as bad" tbh
keys when
uneven mason
And then sunwell was just so fucking difficult that you needed near full t6 to survive
nimble skiff
It's not that I enjoy it, it's the only way I get access to m+
lusty tiger
Prot warri only key?
ez
lusty tiger
never im full emo petergriffin tiktokmode rn
W T F
nimble skiff
If I had a choice I'd go with a static group, if you got tips how to get one, lmk I'm all hears
modern brook
guild lmao
lusty grotto
never im full emo petergriffin tiktokmode rn
nimble skiff
Yeah there's 1 dedicated group in my guild that run with themselves
lusty tiger
step 1: get 3000io pugging
step 2: post in the m+ discord
hollow flower
If I had a choice I'd go with a static group, if you got tips how to get one, lm...
If you find someone in a pug you Like Just add them and ask if they wanna do more
lusty grotto
people expect to time the first time they set foot on a key, thats not how it works
lusty tiger
💯
lusty grotto
of course they will
strong forum
people expect to time the first time they set foot on a key, thats not how it wo...
no, im literally perfect
lusty grotto
cs_office is goated
strong forum
ive never died in a video game
lusty grotto
no, im literally perfect
uneven mason
no, im literally perfect
He's got more CE than God!
hollow flower
There is a Tool on Raider io to find a group but dont have any experience
waxen frigate
ive never died in a video game
That’s not true I’m better I have more IOS
lusty tiger
very real and extremely true
waxen frigate
More like android
modern brook
more like IOUS
🔥
rich wyvern
Giga pulling is the only reason to play wow tbh
rich wyvern
I've just adapted the mantra *"f it, just sent it"*
I prefer “Chuck it into the ‘fuck it’ bucket and call it good”
nimble skiff
Lol
hollow flower
does anyone know if you can roll for items if you have it in the bank?
lusty grotto
you cant
deleting the item and restoring also does not work if you want to cheese it (and you shouldn't)
uneven mason
Imagine being a dwarf that doesn't use an axe or hammer
lusty grotto
or a fish
grand veldt
tough mythic + season coming boys
lusty grotto
im not concerned
uneven mason
"above 90%" why would we be under?
ebon lark
"above 90%" why would we be under?
I mean I use to play with a crazy (not in a good way) healer, that basically only kept the group above 1-shot range but no more and DPSed more than healed
lusty grotto
thats not a crazy healer
thats a fucking great healer
like GOATed
but even then ikarikaze isnt speaking about healers lmao
we're prot warriors
if youre going below 90% hp on the first DHT pulls youre either pulling massive or youre doing something wrong
ebon lark
oh I haven't played DHT recently
serene jewel
How’s this tank looking in m+ next patch
lusty grotto
i wouldnt expect you to play it recently, its a s3 dungeon
jagged pier
if your a meta chaser dont play it
ebon lark
i mean it was a problem because he wouldn't heal enough to remove debuffs like that
jagged pier
if u enjot the class play it
lusty grotto
its not a problem if youre a warrior
ive had healers completely ignore me on BH's last boss
ebon lark
this may be a weird thing to make me question playing prot warrior, but its the m+ affixes
lusty grotto
and those get a star sticker from me
dusky canopy
InstaDN
ebon lark
afflicted isn't every week but it irritates me to no end that there is literally nothing i can do about it and i need to blow a ton of CC on Incorp to feel like I'm even helping with it
lusty grotto
well thats a you problem
2 weeks of just one affix for me 🙂
affli who?
incor-what?
i dont see any affixes idk what you mean
robust rover
tough mythic + season coming boys
Is that this buff today on PTR? Frenzied Nightclaw's Grievous Rip initial damage increased by 25%
uneven mason
TFW you're in a group with a monk 2 priests and a rogue and incorp still hits 2 stacks
toxic dome
More excuse to Zug the better
Exactly, the only acceptable stance
lusty grotto
TFW you're in a group with a monk 2 priests and a rogue and incorp still hits 2 ...
ah well thats not your problem lmao
grand veldt
Is that this buff today on PTR? Frenzied Nightclaw's Grievous Rip initial dama...
Idk but a 130 million damage seems excessive
It's probably a tool tip error
uneven mason
It's probably a tool tip error
Probably not
grand veldt
based
dusky canopy
It is clearly a bug when our health pool is going to be like 1.5m as a tank
lusty grotto
tooltip errors in wow?
dusky canopy
I was memeing
lusty grotto
that never happens
uneven mason
2 seconds or this dot kills the tank - sounds like a healer problem
dusky canopy
If only healer could remove bleed
uneven mason
Don't go below 90%
dusky canopy
Let’s gooooooo
lusty grotto
ezclap
dusky canopy
I’m a breakfast fiend bro I could eat breakfast meals 3 times a day
And sadly my wife is the complete opposite
She hates eggs for example
Fffff
lusty grotto
dang
modern brook
She hates eggs for example
L wife
toxic pewter
wtf breakfast is god tier
ebon lark
sigh why can't i solo warfronts blizzard, i want a shield
toxic pewter
I know a good lawyer when you need one lmk
lusty tiger
Breakfast bowl for lunch today
Hash browns, sausage gravy, & cheese
Yo where do I get one of these
dusky canopy
I meal prepped it this week
lusty grotto
I know a good lawyer when you need one lmk
lusty tiger
I meal prepped it this week
Responsible
dusky canopy
It’s not really picture worthy
But it’s very simple
Hash browns, sausage gravy, cheese
Oh and I added a little sour cream
But not needed
lusty tiger
toxic pewter
me hungy now
dusky canopy
Food is good
lusty grotto
modern brook
i just had too large a lunch
im afraid to put it in my tracker cause i think im not allowed to eat for the rest of the day T-T
gilf would be so mad at me rn
rich wyvern
Imagine being a dwarf that doesn't use an axe or hammer
dw i've seen the light and have a hammer now
thunderclap doesn't really make sense otherwise
waxen frigate
I know a good lawyer when you need one lmk
Do you know any good lifeguards
toxic pewter
no, no I do not.
modern brook
Do you know any good lifeguards
im a life guard thats why im on discord during wage cage hours at all times
lusty grotto
Do you know any good lifeguards
do you know any good project managers?
modern brook
do you know any good project managers?
none exist
thats why they're project managers
lusty grotto
ive had 2
modern brook
as a lifeguard i know all about bad project management
toxic pewter
I MANAGE THE PROJECT SO THE ENGINEERS DONT HAVE TO
waxen frigate
I need a lifeguard for my bath
modern brook
waxen frigate
have you tried a lifevest
How will I clean myself then
lusty tiger
as a lifeguard i know all about bad project management
Are you actually a lifeguard?
lusty grotto
why r words failing me
toxic pewter
I am against water in general
lusty tiger
I need a lifeguard for my bath
waxen frigate
inflatable thingies
How will I clean my arms
waxen frigate
<:Whuh:1072540013033697292>
Heyyyyyyyyy
lusty tiger
TRU
waxen frigate
i think you should be more concerned with cleaning dn
How bout you clean up your goddamn attitude im sick of it
modern brook
Are you actually a lifeguard?
no
uneven mason
do you know any good project managers?
No such thing, that's why I have a job as engagement manager
modern brook
i just wanted to make a funny joke 😦
modern brook
i was in another discord and someone asked what a gib was
lusty grotto
gonna have to get yall back on topic asap
modern brook
and im like "how is yogi not here rn to explain how it was carmack who coined the term in the original doom cause exploding enemies looked like giblets of chickens
uneven mason
lusty tiger
Varrior?!
uneven mason
Double relevant
uneven mason
and im like "how is yogi not here rn to explain how it was carmack who coined th...
Turkey
waxen frigate
Asparagus
modern brook
Donuts :^)
uneven mason
Reminds me of a quake 2 16player dm map, 0 gravity 40x40x20 box, railgun as only weapon, giblets had a 500% despawn duration
Whoever crashed last won
Had a buddy melt his 4800gt playing that
hot willow
Hello, New to War prot, got a question on rage management. I feel quite often under Shield block and full absorb, quite full on rage. I guess i drop it with revenge, but it dont drop that fast and got Shield slam or thunderclap proc before i drop enough, how should i manage it ?
median tulip
Hello, New to War prot, got a question on rage management. I feel quite often un...
Spend it on Ignore Pain
uneven mason
Hello, New to War prot, got a question on rage management. I feel quite often un...
Revenge is what you press when SS and TC are not available
IP is what you dump rage with
Even if you're capped
median tulip
Hello, New to War prot, got a question on rage management. I feel quite often un...
Ignore Pain is a button that gives you 3.5s off Avatar and Shield Wall, 3.5% HP.... and merely happens to give you Ignore Pain as a buff
hot willow
Even if i m already quite full of absorb ? It s still a waste but better to waste that and not rage ?
uneven mason
Since spending rage has offensive benefits over the defensive value of ip
median tulip
Even if i m already quite full of absorb ? It s still a waste but better to wast...
Correct
uneven mason
Even if i m already quite full of absorb ? It s still a waste but better to wast...
IP is an offensive spend
It cycles our major CDs
And produces seeing red
median tulip
Anger Management effects are way way way more important than the IP absorb
hot willow
So ip to reduces cd by rage spending
And revenge only on free cast and when thunder or Shield are on cd ?
uneven mason
Don't think of prot warrior from a defensive standpoint, treat us like a dps that doesn't die
uneven mason
And revenge only on free cast and when thunder or Shield are on cd ?
When you don't have a better use of the GCD
lusty grotto
and the rage to spend
median tulip
So ip to reduces cd by rage spending
Read the Talents Anger Management, Indomitable and Violent Outburst, please
uneven mason
Our optimal offensive rotation leads to optimal defensive play
modern brook
And revenge only on free cast and when thunder or Shield are on cd ?
you should revenge as much as possible it spends rage, procs strategist (SS resets) and does dam.
uneven mason
It's quite genius
median tulip
Our optimal offensive rotation leads to optimal defensive play
This, plus enemies can't hurt you if they are dead.
lusty grotto
you should revenge as much as possible it spends rage, procs strategist (SS rese...
not anymore
modern brook
modern brook
I mean YEAH you SS/ TC over it >.> SMH
lusty grotto
and you wont have many
median tulip
Revenge is like... 5th in line for GCD priority, after Shield Slam, Thunderclap, Demo Shout and Execute
uneven mason
median tulip
Actually 6th, Ravager is up there as well
uneven mason
Revenge is like... 5th in line for GCD priority, after Shield Slam, Thunderclap,...
And shield charge and roar and ravager
median tulip
And shield charge and roar and ravager
Yeah, all that good stuff
lusty grotto
hot willow
Thanks you for returns
uneven mason
No returns, only exchange
lusty grotto
returns?!
median tulip
Thanks you for returns
Not a problem. Believe me, that question is one of the first things we have to explain to MOST new Prot Warriors
lusty grotto
whos returning food to the chef? tell me a name of these individuals
opaque peak
Hello all
hot willow
I m not english native, returns is maybe a Bad translate from french to english sorry
lusty grotto
thanks captain obvious
median tulip
I m not english native, returns is maybe a Bad translate from french to english ...
"responses" = "Replies" en anglais
modern brook
is replies not english?