ya that was my favorite game back then
#protection
toxic pewter
warm plinth
RE2 reboot controls are clunky? š¤
I thought they were fine
But yeah Code Veronica is the reboot I'm waiting for
They'll probably be forced to redo the story a lot though, which is likely why it's taking a while
pallid quiver
I think you're waiting forever on that one
lusty grotto
CV remake ala RE2 and RE3 remake style would be great
uneven mason
Probably, goes to figure they won't do a remake of the best game in the series
lusty grotto
CV is probably the reason why i bought the dreamcast
warm plinth
The important question for a CV remake though
Do they keep Steve as cringe as he was in the original
uneven mason
As long as they have wesker give that flaming uppercut I can tolerate some steve
uneven mason
weary saddle
Question: in choosing between Beacon trinket or stat stick trinket, does the loss of +STR in using a beacon mean LESS Survivability? in other words, does the +STR in the stat stick increase survivability for protwar?
warm plinth
A small amount, not noticeable
bleak breach
Beacon will do a lot more damage, by stat stick I assume youāre talking the one off experiments? If so slightly better for survivability and sustained aoe damage.
But also for the to be at its most effective you need multiple players using it.
weary saddle
thank you. stat stick i mean just a +str trinket
lusty grotto
there are.. no stat trinkets except for OCE
bleak breach
In that case run beacon
weary saddle
not the raid trinkets, cos i do not raid
sick sentinel
so, they changed rezan trinket, do they also change butch block?
bleak breach
Ahh I see, if you donāt raid itās hard to get any good trinkets.
sick sentinel
for similiar reasons? otherwise butcher block would just be BIS all patch
bleak breach
Beacon, OCE, anvil and the grapnel hook are the main ones people run
lusty grotto
for similiar reasons? otherwise butcher block would just be BIS all patch
nah raid trinkets are currently very strong in the PTR
lusty grotto
well they werent when the ptr first came out
bleak breach
A few of the new raid trinks look insane
toxic pewter
cant wait for next season to start
bleak breach
Especially the dps one off Fyrakk
Thereās a lot of trinkets with similar effects to anvil. Proc x amount of damage on attack or give x buff on attack. Will be interesting how they aim.
Sim*
lusty grotto
firestarter will be BiS
bleak breach
Yep
lusty grotto
pip will probably be a bis contender as well
bleak breach
Kinda hoping thereās nothing as strong as beacon
All the top logs in raid for single target are just double or triple beacon cries
Crits*
Obviously theyāre all exceptional players, but itās just rng on beacon.
warm plinth
Kinda hoping thereās nothing as strong as beacon
bleak breach
Can be strong just not in the same aspect if you get what I mean? Like not a single cast you can use as a pre pull that does nearly 2 mil damage.
lusty grotto
if only they fucking understood that all they need to do is reduce mythic to 10m and problem solved
well and remove the dumb lockout
bleak breach
Flexible mythic
lusty grotto
stupid outdated ancient mythic lockout
warm plinth
Mists tw this week š¤
bleak breach
Donāt mind the lockout, but make it flexible
warm plinth
I get to hate myself
bleak breach
Fair
lusty tiger
12m maybe
warm plinth
10 man mythic is not realistic either tbf. It's hard to make complex mechanics when you have to plan around only having a small number of players doing them.
bleak breach
Yeah I agree
pallid quiver
1m mythic
bleak breach
10m has always been the easiest form of raiding
pallid quiver
do it
warm plinth
The game whose raids are literally 100% scripted from start to end?
lusty grotto
8m raids with more difficult mechanics than anything mythic
lusty tiger
it serves no purpose
infinitely farmable?
lusty grotto
you say that, but id like to see you do them
jeree, loot lockout will stay, its obvious
pallid quiver
My biggest issue with FF14 end game raids is that a lot of it before you even get to dealing with the mechanics is finding out the mechanic exists and what it even does
lusty grotto
the lockout is 100% the reason why people dont even pug it
lusty tiger
i just dk what no lockout means- like locked characters can help others?
lusty grotto
do you want people raiding? remove it
bleak breach
If everyone was meant to get CE they would
Most people just donāt like it because itās difficult
lusty tiger
like my buddys ce recelar 448 dps can hop in to help carry a sark kill or something?
bleak breach
Defeats the purpose
lusty grotto
how do you think liquid and co sell runs
uneven mason
Most people just donāt like it because itās difficult
Most guilds don't like it because getting consistent 20 people to show up is a massive hurdle
bleak breach
Yep
Itās normally the bottom end players that donāt show and thereās too many guilds to get consistent good teams now.
uneven mason
Like legit mythics main challenge is in roster
bleak breach
100%
Wouldnāt mind flexible for that purpose, but yeah the tuning is difficult
Even if itās only flexible from 15-20m or something
uneven mason
That's why I miss 10m heroic (what became mythic after SOO)
No flex just 10m, or make 10 and 20m version
bleak breach
Donāt mind the 10 and 20 idea
I.e my guild did about 5-6 weeks of mythic prog then hit the roster boss because people got scared in experiments
uneven mason
Like every time I've attempted mythic prog we always stall due to that 1 dude that can't stay on schedule
uneven mason
I.e my guild did about 5-6 weeks of mythic prog then hit the roster boss because...
Was 5 bosses into nathria stalled on lady darkvein for 2 weeks and one guy up and went to a 6 boss guild, like, big step up, fucked over 19 others (just to get benched)
sick sentinel
i understand a bit more now what nome means about ping pong health bar bdk
i mena like, pwar is kinda like ping long location leap and charge
bleak breach
Was 5 bosses into nathria stalled on lady darkvein for 2 weeks and one guy up an...
Yeah itās a massive issue, but nothing we can do about it. We had so many jump ship to other teams hoping for easy kills, but then often werenāt good enough to make the 20 anyway.
lusty tiger
Was 5 bosses into nathria stalled on lady darkvein for 2 weeks and one guy up an...
tru this hurts so many guilds
uneven mason
Warrior and druid don't take noticable damage, everyone else looks like they're eating various amounts of getting fucked
But bounce back
bleak breach
Now I just do my heroic reclear every week chasing the number 1 parse to cure my boredom lol
pallid quiver
When healing and I see a BDK with full runic power, I just assume they're fine and ignore them
bleak breach
When healing and I see a BDK with full runic power, I just assume they're fine a...
Haha
pallid quiver
and then 50% of the time they die, 50% they don't
bleak breach
BDK scares me
uneven mason
When healing and I see a BDK with full runic power, I just assume they're fine a...
Basically this
Then they die on the next pull
Because, why not
Gotta stay in class fantasy "dead knight"
bleak breach
Their tuning in 10.2 will be interesting. Iād assume they will be at the top because of the legendary, just how far above the rest will be the issue.
Their player base will sky rocket too, heaps of my friends have jumped ship to BDK just to get the legendary.
grand veldt
Shockwaves 40s base, 25 seconds with the CD reduction
pallid quiver
Gotta stay in class fantasy "dead knight"
I will never trust an Undead BDK.
those idiots died twice in character creation
toxic pewter
really craving taco bell all of a sudden
blazing condor
just found out i tanked 3 keys weaing cloak of coordination
fallen spindle
just found out i tanked 3 keys weaing cloak of coordination
i bet you could find your way really fast then ! 0.0
bleak breach
really craving taco bell all of a sudden
Iāve never had the luxury of trying Taco Bell. I donāt think we have it here in Tasmania haha
bleak breach
:/
Nearly out of our devils too
Only native thing we will have left at this rate is 2 heads and incest.
toxic pewter
i went to australia one time
didnt go to tasmania tho
hungry jack better than mcd
bleak breach
They donāt like to include us as part of them, but they will never get rid of us.
Weāre still connected under the ocean somewhereā¦
brave citrus
Do the women at least still glow? Men plunder and all that?
sick sentinel
bleak breach
Do the women at least still glow? Men plunder and all that?
Haha
lusty grotto
I will never trust an Undead BDK.
those idiots died _twice_ in character creati...
just imagine giving DKs a legendary in the Dragon expansion after they slaughtered hundreds of them for one of their Artifacts
waxen frigate
Hey same
lusty tiger
I memba
lusty grotto
blazing condor
we all know kids dont play wow anymore
brave citrus
I'm worth 2 of you! Woo?
blazing condor
when was the last time u heard about a 10 year old kid saying "mom i want wow for christmas"
lusty tiger
Holy Fortnite dance on my skibbidi
blazing condor
gyat rizz fellow ohio citizen
lusty tiger
(im also 24)
I thought you were 7.5 dog years
blazing condor
i know little about math
lusty tiger
Name checks out
lusty tiger
I have their unreleased demo album
blazing condor
reported
lusty tiger
: D
That song is an unreleased fall of Troy song on the b side of in the unlikely event
blazing condor
thats cool honestly
blazing condor
how come
lusty tiger
This one is sick
lusty tiger
how come
I met a person in a discord from a different niche band that collects unreleased/demo tapes from bands like tfot and hail the sun
blazing condor
I met a person in a discord from a different niche band that collects unreleased...
thats cool actually 
also whats with the 50% mastery yoge
warm plinth
I have like 56% in prot spec 
blazing condor
lusty tiger
I think thatās yogis bdk
bleak breach
That was my stats last raid I did, no idk what that equals in %
strong forum
man
i just did BH went ham
but cuz its tyr and bosses actually lived a while
i did fuckall dmg
bleak breach
I havenāt done M+ in so long lol. Think Iām at like 1800, I just did the same few 16-20s for vault and that was out.
Now Iāve gotta stress push for 2500
strong forum
ye ive not done a key on my pwar in like a month
bleak breach
Think my last was July
Iāve got some this season I havenāt even done a run for haha
bleak breach
Plenty of people still play and do keys
toxic pewter
na
bleak breach
Yes
strong forum
most people are mainly just gearing up for s3 at this point
bleak breach
I just generally do my weekly heroic atm and thatās it, donāt need any gear. Just do it to keep the clock ticking over.
sick sentinel
trying 2042 now, seems okay besides bots
probably gunna end up buying tons of bf games this week
lusty grotto
bots will only show up at the start
they get booted as people join
it also depends on your game mode
some are more popular than others
sick sentinel
theres an idea to steal for LFR with the AI players being added (DONT DO FOR TANK AND HEALRS
raids already full past X ppl
toxic pewter
i know I speak for many of my friends/followers when I say if blizzcon is a dud.. we are forever disavowing blizzard. I know I will unsubscribe immediately
trim condor
what is % on item drop from heroic megadungeon? Trying to drop cheath death trinket and I am getting 1 item every 3rd dungeon
sick sentinel
you need to try other games
ive tried too many games is my problem
lusty grotto
that was addressed to apb not you yogi
sick sentinel
i do the same play too much wow at times
uneven mason
When I said I was doing the 4 mythic dungeons just for kicks I didn't mean give me the same boots I'm already wearing out of the heroic cache
mighty valley
i know I speak for many of my friends/followers when I say if blizzcon is a dud....
followers? do you lead a cult?
bleak breach
i know I speak for many of my friends/followers when I say if blizzcon is a dud....
What do you hope to see?
toxic pewter
followers? do you lead a cult?
Lol, na, just people appreciate and like to hear my thoughts on current events
so I take upcoming blizzcon very seriously
warm plinth
When I said I was doing the 4 mythic dungeons just for kicks I didn't mean give ...
I feel like this one is on you
mighty valley
What do you hope to see?
apb usually wants to see a total reimagining of what the idea of "world of warcraft" even means
toxic pewter
What do you hope to see?
I just want to be surprised, like even a small surprise at this point. The continued monotony and formulaic lack of risk taking wow has pushed for over a decade now has really grown tiresome.
like just surprise me with literally anything cool
I personally would like to see the 'next generation' for world of warcraft.. not like a sequel per se, but a reimagined while also upgraded recapturing of the game with actual risk/interesting choices that move the game in a bold new direction
jagged gust
That's what happened with Legion
Then they went and tried to make the legion magic happen repeatedly for the next several expansions
now the new is old and we're all shaking our fists at the clouds waiting for blizz to change the weather
hardy snow
vestal linden
Just curious in my M+ run I had shield block up for 75.58% of the dungeon, I know I can do better but is that good or needs a lot of work?
vestal linden
I don't know if was counting running from pack to pack either, but thank you, I will aim to do better
lusty grotto
well logs have a better breakdown
blazing condor
Still progging sark this late gotta be a nightmare
hardy snow
its better to check in logs how much unblocked melee you take
blazing condor
4 hours a day 3 days a week
lusty grotto
though details only counts incombat uptime so it should be accurate as well
blazing condor
Just wiping
hardy snow
4 hours a day 3 days a week
fortunately only 3 š
blazing condor
Pog
vestal linden
This was from warcraft logs, but like I said I will aim to do better
lusty tiger
This was from warcraft logs, but like I said I will aim to do better
% hits blocked?
vestal linden
Let me check
blazing condor
Yeah its a big diff between buff uptime and effective blocked hits%
You should only care about ādid i actually block an attack or notā
Otherwise its just a buff doing nothing (except ss damage)
hardy snow
just have 100% while in combat 
lusty grotto
Let me check
hover over all damage taken (on the hits column)
blazing condor
Melee damage*
lusty grotto
vestal linden
Dont know how to see much much I blocked, but it says I midigated like 70.41% of all damage
I think anyway, I feel like I don't have a clue how to do Warcraft logs though
hardy snow
on melee you have column "hits", mouse over there
vestal linden
Oh I'm on my phone cause I'm not near my PC atm
hardy snow
I think tapping in such spot also works, but im not 100% sure
vestal linden
Ok with I think EHRPS, self absorbs and external absorbs I was at 92.06% mitigated, but I don't know what any of that means
hardy snow
ehrps = external healing required per second
vestal linden
I feel quite dumb right now not feeling like I'm being very helpful
hardy snow
you can just link log š¤·āāļø
vestal linden
Let me see if I can't bring it up
hardy snow
there is also lots of good FAQ on wlogs page
hardy snow
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/PchjQgLJVxfqKwHG#fight=17&type=damage-taken...
you blocked less than 70% melee, thats quite low
vestal linden
So not good I'm guessing
hardy snow
but thats more important - thats melee taken when you had shield block active
that many unblocked hits means issue with positioning and taking it in the back
warm plinth
Don't run battle-scarred veteran. Swap heavy repercussions for into the fray (you don't need HR with bolster talented).
vestal linden
Thanks for giving the advice, I'll try harder at getting my shield block up more often
Ok
hardy snow
keep your shield up and show enemies your face, not your ass
warm plinth
Don't run barbaric training
vestal linden
Not going to lie been so long since I've played I don't remember what any of those talents do
hardy snow
and unstoppable force is way better than immovable object, especially for keys
hardy snow
generally check the pins for builds
warm plinth
You're casting revenge way too much and shield slam not enough.
warm plinth
I would suggest copying the build in the pins (the one for this patch, not next) and taking a look at the icy-veins guide
vestal linden
Okay, I will take a look again once I start playing again, just wanted a honest review from everyone, and see what I have to work on, seems seems like a lot which is what I figured anyway
warm plinth
š
grand veldt
hey
does anyone know if i can save peoples lives in BH with intervene
on first boss gash tooth frenzy?
orchid mural
yep, u can
warm plinth
Probably better used on mark of butchery tbh
@potent anvil I watched your 22 NL last night and that was uh...certainly a run lol.
potent anvil
oblique garnet
gloomy ferry
what piece of tier do we not make
lusty grotto
legs
gloomy ferry
ty
what embellishments would you make atm knowing what we know is being nerfed in 10.2?
strong forum
Prolly no change
But with the change to sporecloak it's potentially good offensively
Will sim stuff once we're closer to launch
gloomy ferry
But with the change to sporecloak it's potentially good offensively
so what would you make then
belt+patch?
or lariat+spore
strong forum
Absolutely not lariat
gloomy ferry
strong forum
Lariat does require literally full sockets before it does anything
Safest bet is 2x patch or patch + belt for now
gloomy ferry
Alrighty ty friend
tender cove
finally got a new keyboard. Feels less weird than i thought not having nordic keyboard. I press correctly on mostly memory for the most part. only regret is this tiny tiny "enter" key but ill work around it š
When is the new patch launching btw?
opaque quest
finally got a new keyboard. Feels less weird than i thought not having nordic ke...
Nice one. Which one did you get?
opaque quest
When is the new patch launching btw?
No intel yet
Oh. Nvm. LFR drops on the 14th of Nov so probably 2 weeks after release meaning 31st Oct/1st nov
grizzled nova
gloomy ferry
Oh. Nvm. LFR drops on the 14th of Nov so probably 2 weeks after release meaning ...
patch is the 7th season is 14th
nvm he said it
tender cove
Nice one. Which one did you get?
Corsair K60 mechanical low profile
fml. and it sends it upside down xD
was just gonna show the tiny enter key anyhow š
opaque quest
Neat. Enjoy
tender cove
Yeh, can finally use my weird ass monitor i bought now haha. So nice not playing on laptop monitor or worse, having to use that keyboard š
opaque quest
Did you choose the Corsair for a specific reason or just because it was the only one available?
tender cove
Did you choose the Corsair for a specific reason or just because it was the only...
Ive had corsair for my last 3 keyboards and like the 5 before that was logitech
so no other reason than ive been happy in the past with them
warm plinth
@cinder nova invading mpf
lusty grotto
your face is invading mpf
warm plinth
Rude
lusty grotto
but true and real
pallid quiver
And your mom is invading mpf
warm plinth
Ive had corsair for my last 3 keyboards and like the 5 before that was logitech
I like corsair products but their software is hot garbage
opaque quest
Zys Rail has all settings on the mouse and my Keychron uses Via
Feelsgood not having drivers
tender cove
im starting to understand why americans (both north and south) are so fat...
The fastfood is freaking delicious, delivered home before it gets soggy, still feels fresh and is actually good tasting
opaque quest
Germans are fat too but when i order BK it gets here soggy like marsh
tender cove
Im soo hooked on this carls jr fried chicken and their fried chicken burgers... Its equally addictive as crack lol
tender cove
Germans are fat too but when i order BK it gets here soggy like marsh
This actually comes in real chicken, none of those weirdly consistently shaped things and its still crispy!!!! š®
just had 9 piece PLUS a burger and now i feel disgusting
but it was worth it :x
tender cove
Germans are fat too but when i order BK it gets here soggy like marsh
here we used rappi and you can pay 1.5 euro to get priority delivery and they run straight to you
but for south americans? its 100% the coke.. Everyone i know drinks EASILY 2 liters of regular coke and refuse to even consider coke zero
or wait, its 0.7 euro even
opaque quest
This actually comes in real chicken, none of those weirdly consistently shaped t...
Is coming as "Real chicken" really that rare in the US?
Damn
lusty grotto
its not that rare anymore
opaque quest
I know that your chicken is forbidden here in the EU
lusty grotto
it used to maybe in the 80s and 90s when it was fast food everywhere
tender cove
Is coming as "Real chicken" really that rare in the US?
In sweden it has been. because we only had like 3 options forever ever. Mickey D, burger king and last couple years 2 KFC opened nationwide but they were in the hood and as such, garbage quality upon already, well, being kfc
lusty grotto
a lot of fast foods do non steroid or w/e shit chicken now anyway
id say the majority of them
opaque quest
As long as nobody steps in the salad US citizens can be happy ig
tender cove
a lot of fast foods do non steroid or w/e shit chicken now anyway
more me its about the texture... If you compare say a chicken mcnugget to well say carls jr because im eating it a lot now
opaque quest
I googled for 2 minutes. Turns out US chickens are some weird incest breeds that grow way to fast and kill the quality
tender cove
When you bite into a nugget? its not even chicken...Its some ground up paste, reshaped. Its so off putting.
But carls? If you order say a 9 piece? Sometimes you will only get 7 pieces because they huge af
and sometimes there will be like 11 cuz theyre smaller...
This enter key is gonna drive me mad for the coming week lol...keep pressing it by mistake xD
tender cove
I googled for 2 minutes. Turns out US chickens are some weird incest breeds that...
We have similar in europe, just tiny bit more laws on it. For example, i think france has like 11 different grading on chicken. From growing usa fast to eco taking months
but on average? We
this enter key lol... On average we are not far behind usa in mass production and type of inbreed bird
like "normal" chicken is supposed to be tinted yellow and look fresh... Not white/grey poisiony
opaque quest
yellow? Ours is pink
tender cove
The best quality grading of chicken that i know from my very old past as chef... Is the highest grading off french chicken, that spends like 90% of their life outdoors, growing slowly and is feed mainly a mixture off corn, coloring the flesh to be yellow. It
its also not slimey like other chicken is, no idea why.
So im spreading lies it seems.
A yellow chicken is fed with Corn, so it gets its yellow color skin and meat from the yellow corn. A white chicken is normally fed with wheat and cereals. They are both good chicken, with no difference in quality but a slight difference in flavor
This is the best chicken in the world apparently.
WHOLE POULET DE BRESSE
In 1936 the Bresse chicken farmers got their famous AOC label, or Appellation d'origine contrƓlƩe, most commonly awarded to French wines and cheeses; It is the highest honour of food production in France.
They still hold that award today.
But enough food orgie off topic. Ima try my new keyboard and see if I can make this streaming thing work with my shit laptop š¦
opaque quest
We just wiped in Neltharus 17 because DK doesnt know what AMS is so he died with chain
No idea how i reached 3k with idiots like that
opaque quest
But the fire he stood in does
cinder nova
kekw
tender cove
next season. will they go back to the first 4 dungeons and add 3 new plus the mega?
or how will it look?
err 3 old
opaque quest
Wiped again. Druid tells me i moved the boss into him
Stays right inside a chain as healer
God i love 17s
cinder nova
the lower the key the harder it is
opaque quest
Everything between 11 and 21 is unplayable 90% of the time ye
pallid quiver
It's mostly the mid key range that's the worst
It invites the egoheads who are also shit
And they get punished for mistakes
tender cove
so been playing arms for a bit with the boosts and quite enjoying it...But just did a sim... Is call of chaos such a bad trinket or is mark of dragul just a veeeery strong trinket?
441 ilvl vs 431
Guessing it will be true for both specs?
tender cove
Everything between 11 and 21 is unplayable 90% of the time ye
Tried to tank my first freefold 20 the other day... Well, lets just say I wont try with minimum a healer buddy xD
thinking of just trying to pug this 19 as arms and say fkit
Im not a bad player but coming in last weeks of a tier, as tank, knowing absolutely nothing about the dungeons is just an impossible obstacle to overcome š¦
peak onyx
warrior just has little utility, what am i supposed to do with my 1,5min shout cd for incorporeal when i have 2 druids (tank/healer) who completely refuse to use hibernate/cyclone ;-;
opaque quest
Tried to tank my first freefold 20 the other day... Well, lets just say I wont t...
I did Freehold 20 2 days ago with my Monk and it was okay. But we only invited 3k players on their shitty alts like me and my buddy
tender cove
I did Freehold 20 2 days ago with my Monk and it was okay. But we only invited 3...
My group averaged 2600 i think.
opaque quest
The disparity between 2.6 and 3k is insane. Even 2.8 is worlds apart. Not to pat myself on the back but someone who does all 20s vs all 22s isnt just IO but commitment. 20s is for gear 22 for shiny RIO. Shows me the person cares
pallid quiver
Nothing shows me a person cares other than logs and vods
opaque quest
M+ logs 
tender cove
The disparity between 2.6 and 3k is insane. Even 2.8 is worlds apart. Not to pat...
Yeh but if you aint early with it, it becomes even more impossible. It getting ultra stuck and sure, find guild, make friends, level up etc. Im with all that...but last few weeks? Kill me, kill me now xzD
opaque quest
Mid - End of season sucks ye. Gotta do all 10s intime. Then all 11s and so on
Getting into 23s before i had all 22s was almost impossible
tender cove
Honestly, my biggest obstacle has always and will always be my inability to learn from videos. I have to fuckup and almost have someone explain to me what I did wrong or was supposed to do for me to be able to execute it going forward. but havent had friends in ages and pugs are generally more clueless so no help there xD
opaque quest
As tank repetition is key imo. Just learn the route and when you need to pull what with what CDs
tender cove
Great example, the underground dungeon with the first boss that does some blue lightning circle? Kept dying and dying until some random was like, dude, STAND THE FUCK STILL...and it stopped
things like that.. I dunno why but things like that, lack of knowledge is always my biggest obstacle, not pressing buttons in the right order.
pallid quiver
As tank repetition is key imo. Just learn the route and when you need to pull wh...
Hold W is a hell of a route most the time
opaque quest
opaque quest
things like that.. I dunno why but things like that, lack of knowledge is always...
Shift j is your friend
pallid quiver
things like that.. I dunno why but things like that, lack of knowledge is always...
That's because you can't deal with something until you've internalized it
There's no reason to feel bad as long as you learn
Logs and dungeon guides help point out both of those, asking group members rarely helps
tender cove
That's because you can't deal with something until you've internalized it
but how do you learn it all, prehand then? Cuz everyone(in pugs) expect you to know everything on day one and often its so hectic for me i find it hard to notice such things in the heat of the moment š¦
pallid quiver
but how do you learn it all, prehand then? Cuz everyone(in pugs) expect you to k...
No, you learn after
You fail, shrug the pugs off, then learn
I guarantee you half those pugs don't know shit about 50% of trash
People I pug doti with have, in fact, cleared it every week
They still don't know what a time slicer does
tender cove
hehe š
pallid quiver
I recommend glancing at the dungeon journal summary for your role, then looking at abilities that have the deadly tag attached
Looking too deep overloads your brain and you don't retain anything
That's before going into a dungeon
After clearing, look back at a log of it and see where you died, and see what ability or abilities caused you to die
tender cove
Looking too deep overloads your brain and you don't retain anything
yeh, this is why i stopped trying to cram everything in from YT videos to dungeon journal and just try to learn as I go but that doesnt really work too good either.
pallid quiver
There needs to be a mix of both, because WoW just doesn'y tell you what's going on
tender cove
yeh, thats painfully clear š
Whats the logic with blizzard being able to remove gold from scams but not give it back to me?
Been in back and forth tickets for over a week now...
Ill just do a chargeback on the wow token and TAKE my money back
wtf is this bullshittery?
Their main argument "we dont offically support boost".
The hell you arent... With a literal dedicated boost channel and lead designer openly promoting boosts?
how is that not offically supported with everything happening ingame?
opaque quest
Dont take this wrong but if wows combat isnt for you try FFXIV. They have lighter easier combat with markers for everything
lusty grotto
Their main argument "we dont offically support boost".
The hell you arent... Wit...
thats on you sorry mate
pallid quiver
how is that not offically supported with everything happening ingame?
Well, you can think of all the RP scenarios that go down in the RP servers; they don't officially support like whole communities existing, family relations, etc, but it's not banned and allowed. The services chat was brought out to allow people to peddle services players wanted to provide to others without clogging standard chat. Boosting's the main one, but I'd wager internet GFs wouldn't be off the table :L
lusty grotto
im with blizzard on this one
having a channel for it does not mean to officially support
you knew the risks
tender cove
So what would mean they suport it offiaclly? Coming out saying they do? Because they facilitate the means to buy boosts(tokens) the legitimize it with the trade boost channel and deals made within the wow client, made with gold is very enforceable by blizzard in events of scams. And always been a thing they made a point to say only deals with gold with chat logs supporting it are enforceable.
Where they (supposedly) punish/action the scammer and remove any illigemate gold... But they stop at refunding me, the player who bought their boost token and got scammed?
how is anyone on blizzard with this is beyond me but ok
lusty grotto
youre making mental gymnastics over something so simple
tender cove
Why? I got scammed, they know he scammed me, they say my gold was removed from the scammer, they say they punished him...but i cant get my gold back. Why? Im sorry but my brain cant process that...
this is about a 20-70 lvling boost btw.
thin silo
in short, because Blizzard isn't willing to devote the man-hours required to enforce any arbitrary clause of agreements between boosters and boostees. If it's not in a trade window/crafting order or otherwise "enforced by game mechanics" scenario, they need to take a maximally "hands off" approach or else people will want them to arbitrate every transactional arrangement with strangers that gets dreamed up
tender cove
in short, because Blizzard isn't willing to devote the man-hours required to enf...
First fair point ive heard. I guess that makes sense in a way. Still thing is shitty design. It would be one extra button press to restore my legitmate gold. And theyve already done all the steps leading up to it...
fuck this keyboard lol... the sign for doing youre, theyre etc. is missing on this keyboard, because it doesnt fit the swedish keyboard layout
and that makes things interesting in a not so fun way trying to type lol
mighty valley
if they officially said "we will reinstate gold from scams" they'd suddenly be inundated by scammers claiming scams that never happened
tender cove
if they officially said "we will reinstate gold from scams" they'd suddenly be i...
Yeh that makes sense but im still not gonna be happy about it
for those with nvidia cards, can you trust geforce experince settings for wow? Cause it sets a lot of mine to ultra and do have frame drops, specially in cities
thin silo
Geforce Experience is bloatware IMO, I uninstall that shit asap
echo sphinx
Unless you are really good at updating your video drivers id keep it, it is really good for keeping your drivers up to date.
tender cove
Geforce Experience is bloatware IMO, I uninstall that shit asap
really? š®
static aspen
in short, because Blizzard isn't willing to devote the man-hours required to enf...
Damn, so many smart words, literally didn't understood half of what you said
thin silo
it's just a bunch of gimmicks that you can mostly accomplish without a program that loads itself eternally into memory. maybe if I had any interest in screen recording it could have a use, but there's no reason to believe its generic auto-settings are any better than manual iteration
as for drivers I generally only update them once in a blue moon or when there's actual issues -- as often as not it seems like I see "newest X driver breaks Y; here's how to roll back"
lusty grotto
i disagree
im fine with it
im also fine with win11
thats just like your opinion
and opinions are like assholes
also as for drivers
there are a plethora of multiplayer games that basically force you to update your drivers so
including warzone and bf
lusty grotto
i mean i use to shadowplay
which, yes, you can also set up OBS to do, but fuck that
bleak breach
@strong forum that WA is really nice, thanks. Will make things really simple with new tier.
tender cove
im also fine with win11
why would anyone be against win11? Were months away from win12... I swear this keyboard going in the bin soon xD
win10 reaching end of life soon, whats to hold on to? š
jagged pier
Do you guys not press TC?
I guess not
jagged pier
Ooof
ionic fern
I'm prioritising my numeric keybinds like this, guess the abilities:
1
2
3
pallid quiver
that's even worse smh
lusty grotto
Do you guys not press TC?
i only š¢ šµ š
gloomy ferry
Why? I got scammed, they know he scammed me, they say my gold was removed from t...
i will just boost your character from whatever lvl you are now
if you still needc it but you gotta give me a 17 to tank rq on my warrior alt
tender cove
if you still needc it but you gotta give me a 17 to tank rq on my warrior alt
I dont understand this but ill do it if i can and yeh i still need it for my last tank class, the dk š
But i have to sleep now, its 02.03 for me rn š
bleak breach
Do you guys not press TC?
Absolutely, just helps keep an eye on having all dots up between procs. Also Iām a clicker haha
ionic fern
jagged pier
lavish sphinx
I might have you all beat
I play on a MacBook trackpad and use the entire numerical bar
jagged pier
yer dont lie
lavish sphinx
Legit
MacBook trackpad actually easy to use
No mouse means itās easier to hit the 7 to = buttons too
bleak breach
Iāve always been a clicker lol. Guildies hate it
bleak breach
Iām going to slowly try to convert. Never worried about it because my numbers have always been decent
gloomy ferry
Do we want to hit X haste number or do we not want to hit DR etc
pallid quiver
You'd only care at the real 40% before buffs cap
which is not feasibly able to be hit
bleak breach
I try to sit at 5k haste
pallid quiver
So don't worry about haste or specific stat values
jagged pier
7100 haste
gloomy ferry
K
pallid quiver
@warm plinth I just need to hit this man's name for reasons, sorry for the ping
gloomy ferry
logged onto prot after not playing it since SL tanked a 17 BH +3d it at 410 with a green agi weapon on
feels ghood to take 0 dmg
jagged pier
well thats just a 17
gloomy ferry
oh 100% its just a 17
bleak breach
I just sim everything anyway, youāll work out whatās the best combo quickly.
pallid quiver
i let the robot tell me what the best combo is
gloomy ferry
Not tryna say its impressive at all i just forgot how good it feels to block infinite melee dmg attacks
warm plinth
i let the robot tell me what the best combo is
bleak breach
Sim*
gloomy ferry
Realistically if i cant get a raid trinket before next tier on this alt would NL+proc trinket from DOTI work until next tier trinkets
pallid quiver
I go to the bathroom only to come back to see that I've angered a man
he's gonna kill me ;-;
bleak breach
Use bloodmallet if youāre not sure, but would be mark of Dargrul and the doti one
warm plinth
gloomy ferry
ty all for the answers appreciate your time
what can i spell reflect in halls
anything good or no
blazing condor
In the pins you got a spreadsheet
gloomy ferry
oh shit
blazing condor
with everything reflectable
gloomy ferry
k ty sr
blazing condor
blazing condor
anything good or no
the best thing in halls you can reflect is the channeled tank buster on last boss
the one right after the knockback
deals hella damage back to the boss
pallid quiver
I haven't done M+ this season other than like 3 dungeons, but iirc from M0 days, most of the important stuff in there other than last boss is a lot of stuff you just want to mitigate with SR, too, so don't forget that part (dragons in that last hallway come to mind)
Do note for the last boss reflect, you can potentially accidentally reflect the knockback
So don't cast it early
or have they fixed that
bleak breach
@gloomy ferry Thereās a WA that will tell you when and what you can reflect
gloomy ferry
yea i forgot to get it again
lavish sphinx
Some evidence
bleak breach
Some evidence
King
lavish sphinx
The HPal discord were almost up in arms when I showed them this and said I didnāt use mouse over macros lol
Iām just a zig zig Warr
lavish sphinx
Iāve healed to +22 by clicking and casting but yeah mouseover is probably more optimal
static aspen
Mousepadover
gloomy ferry
would you loot spec tank or arms for raid gear
like weekly loot box im p sure its just arms right since we dont want the tank trinkets
blazing condor
if you dont need shield then id go dps spec
you can get 1h as fury
and then u want dps trinket
blazing condor
easy
gloomy ferry
IS ANVIL USABLE?
blazing condor
anvil is one of our best
gloomy ferry
Fuckin huge
blazing condor
but better for ST than aoe
lavish sphinx
Cheering with Anvil. Iāve heard uptime is a bitch though
gloomy ferry
do we still do the /cast Ip /cast shield slam macro or does that not work anymore
jagged pier
thats just a macro to replace your IP bind i
its still useable but u still have a SS button as well
gloomy ferry
yea i read that part as well just didnt know
blazing condor
Cheering with Anvil. Iāve heard uptime is a bitch though
Its actually not that bad you just need to think ahead
Some dungeons are easier than others though
Neltharions lair is like perma 5 stacks of anvil
blazing condor
you can always reset the duration between pulls
chaining works as well
but you got 20 seconds after leaving combat
and if its off cd you can just press it between pulls as well
toxic geyser
Cheering with Anvil. Iāve heard uptime is a bitch though
Never had a problem with anvil uptime. Even in VP and Freehold you can taunt critters or refresh just before jumping in a tornado
thorny stone
Never had a problem with anvil uptime. Even in VP and Freehold you can taunt cri...
I had every critter marked on my route
toxic geyser
Worst one is probably NL but even then, throwing fish after first boss refreshes it, you can taunt the snails after 2nd boss and save a refresh for after 3rd
toxic geyser
Yeah
toxic geyser
I mean realistically you have 30 secs after leaving combat before the buff expires
blazing condor
now with spiteful its giga easy
blazing condor
aye
toxic geyser
Spite makes them last longer because itās still technically combat
thorny stone
Any noticeable trinkets for s3?
toxic geyser
Makes you spend longer in combat and thus get more of them over the course of a dungeon
opaque quest
Can always go crit on gear then take sandglass
trim condor
logged onto prot after not playing it since SL tanked a 17 BH +3d it at 410 with...
Yeah, Its amazing. Be aware of uldaman tho, I Felt immortal in freehold and bracken on low ilvl in 17-18 And then went to uldaman without spellblock And ate all bleeds. It was shocker haha
sick sentinel
hourglass is just okay
just another frontal trinket, this time with haste proc stack instead of str
sick sentinel
Yeah, Its amazing. Be aware of uldaman tho, I Felt immortal in freehold and brac...
i attemptwd uldaman two times on a 16 or 17 or whatever it was
opaque quest
attempted?
opaque quest
Cmon yogi pump. My 420 Monk can do 17 ulda i believe in you
Just kite crocs
And sneks
sick sentinel
and thnw i said fuck this, and i never ran that key again this whole season
opaque quest
Or just use Shieldwall/LS/Kite
sick sentinel
too many srt ups into instant or garuntted wipe
im just not have fun any more reallly
trim condor
Slows helps too, Its a tom easier if people use slows/stops there. AÅ„ least it was for me
opaque quest
No need to force a key or wow at all
sick sentinel
true
id did buy like 4 steam games this month
not doom, i already have all of thoss
opaque quest
In the last 5 weeks i was gone for 4. 3 weeks of LoP and 1 week of back to Anno
trim condor
id did buy like 4 steam games this month
Why not, there will be fresh season anyway in 3 weeks š
opaque quest
Today is the first day im really playing wow again
sick sentinel
not like shitter steam games either, at least one of them was new bf
im just not intsrested in whatever wow is atm
probably play till end of year, .... i just hope blizzcon is good this year
asmon is right, its too much of a giant collection of stuff, needs a full reset new quests new currencies
trim condor
Do you like collectibles? I found out collecting toys is giga fun
sick sentinel
there is simply too much in the game to do, its overwhelming at best
trim condor
When I am not in mood for keys etc
sick sentinel
i like to collect transmog and sometimes mount
mayge ill log on to complete the tenders thing for the month
toxic geyser
Anvil doesnt really proc in AOE does it?
opaque quest
Anvil doesnt really proc in AOE does it?
Na its not as good for M+ as for raid
There are better options
trim condor
Still okay'ish
Oof, you can get Whetstone from timewalking?
My 389 whetstone does pretty insane dmg on my brew
trim condor
I need it!! But I dont have much time to farm IT today oof haha
Thanks for the info. Forgot that there is COS in timewalking now
opaque quest
Wouldnt call it farming tbh. To much randomness in dungeon rota
Just got one while doing the 5 for weekly
trim condor
You cant log Directly timewalk dungeons? Never tried it, but thought you can
sweet summit
should be able to
opaque quest
How?
sweet summit
just like you log anything else
opaque quest
Thought there is only the rng dng finder
trim condor
Crit vers ftw
Btw, I Heard mastery is pulling ahead in m+. Its less dps when you have dps trinkets And dmg weapon enchants, but IT feels safer in keys And good dmg if you dont rely on trinkets
pallid quiver
not in the slightest
sweet summit
brm talk :modcheck:
trim condor
It is
trim condor
Was replying to brew monk screenshot
pallid quiver
listen i'm time walkin' here
Also, you have to go out
of your way to log timewalking dungs
but you can log anything
Manual command should be like /startcombatlog or something
Should be able to google it
sick sentinel
my opinon on logs is if they are so crucial and vital to the players and devs, why arent the tools made by players for logging being made in house and server stored in blizzard servers for players to go do a sim
pallid quiver
It's actually just /combatlog
trim condor
Maybe miscommunicate
We meant like queue timewalk ( only court of star for example)
Not combat log haha
sick sentinel
i dunno if i agree with in house dps meter or DBM, just i think there are some core game play related addons blizzard should make in house and offer to player
lusty tiger
@opaque quest is your bear, baerforceone?
pallid quiver
You mean like choose which dungeons to queue?
trim condor
You mean like choose which dungeons to queue?
Yes, I can't check it, because I am not on gaming pc yet
pallid quiver
Yeah, for timewalking, can't choose specifically
lavish sphinx
Blizz aināt gonna do something thatās being done for them
sick sentinel
you know, i still to this day have no idea what im doing in court of stars beyond "the route" i learned season 1
like, i have small ideas about whats going on, but no real information
just trying to avoid all the crap thats constantly covering all over the screen
lavish sphinx
If thatās not M+ in a nutshell then I dunno what is
sick sentinel
i don't think i ever succesfully did the engineer thing and it wasnt a time loss for our group
trim condor
COS was pretty Fun, but I hated some spawns of that elites And pug ninja pulls. Like I know you Are ranged, but you dont need to Stand on 40yds And pull every patrol
sick sentinel
like, i love a good mystery in a combat dungeon
but dungeon like court is too much mystery for me to solve, i don't own the mysterymachine or have a gang and a dog
lavish sphinx
Zoinks
ionic fern
sick sentinel
pallid quiver
Is general opinion that Wars OP next tier?
like, average person heard from streamer think
not actual strength
sick sentinel
pwar = tin garbage can Kappa, the tin lid is our shields Kappa
strong forum
Is general opinion that Wars OP next tier?
No
sick sentinel
i think the outsider pov is pwar is like low tier
pallid quiver
huh
I'm seeing a lot of levelling prot wars by sheer luck, then
I wagered a lot of people heard people hyping Prot War and then started playing them
largely because like one of these mother fuckers ever pressed shield block
sick sentinel
ithats partially because pwar is bonkers for leveiling speed
cuz it literal cant die in that content unless 1 shot
charge + leap + reduce melees to 1 dmg
blazing condor
Taint of ghuun on 1st boss UR works how?
just a stacking dot
but it disappear sometimes and shit
i dont remember
sweet summit
isn't that just debuff from getting hit by abilities
goes away when heal absorb is healed through
opaque quest
Dont get hit by blood bolt
oblique garnet
I think the bolt also applies it
blazing condor
yeah that makes sense
cus i dont remember it being an issue
but now it trucked me
oblique garnet
Just kick
blazing condor
and interrupts werent really happening
oblique garnet
opaque quest
If you do a decently high key and get hit by bolt you die without CDs
oblique garnet
P sure it got so nerfed you need to do +30 tyra to die to a bolt
strong forum
They omega nerfed it in bfa so it doesn't 1shot anymore ye
blazing condor
yeah the bolts didnt hurt
sweet summit
season 1 or 2 it was night night very early i think
blazing condor
but i just got huge dot
opaque quest
No ofc it doesnt but if you dont pop a cd the heal absorb will murder you
oblique garnet
But there is no other damage events besides bolt
The boss melees are non existant
You wont die to heal absorb
And that is almost instantly gone with just one IV
sick sentinel
yogi uploads a log, this discord channels reaction
blazing condor
i mean the taint itself is a DoT
opaque quest
oblique garnet
Huh
opaque quest
Taint
oblique garnet
TIL
opaque quest
Tyrannical taint is nasty
oblique garnet
If theres no kicks happening then id just leave the key tbh
opaque quest
Same
blazing condor
thats me on my mage alt
strong forum
I did a BH yesterday where I did mongo pulls
At the end the warlock who did 50k dps less than me just says:
Incredible
This tank
GL
And leaves
Idk if that was a compliment or nto
opaque quest
It wasnt. But take it as one
Im shocked our priest said sorry for his dps
Like an adult
pallid quiver
probably a compliment
sick sentinel
did he do 50 k dps cuz he died
opaque quest
na
pallid quiver
mad people usually don't say incredible
opaque quest
He did 50k cause hes bad
opaque quest
mad people usually don't say incredible
I do. Trust
sick sentinel
if he lived the whole thing and did 50k hes got shit gear or doesn't know rotation
opaque quest
The second
opaque quest
Same thing
pallid quiver
Was he Aff?
strong forum
Destro
strong forum
I beat him on 3/4 bosses
untold raven
What level key was this?
blazing condor
93k on a 19 is like 99 parse
untold raven
Who was the 405?
untold raven
Dps or Healy?
strong forum
Dps
untold raven
Ah, that fine
strong forum
The healer was basically afk
untold raven
Oof, that's not
strong forum
Kept beacon on me all dungeon for no reason
And didn't even put up consecration on packs
untold raven
Lol
strong forum
Really unfortunate
pallid quiver
i'd beacon nome
strong forum
Pls don't
untold raven
If he was running double bacon, that makes sense
untold raven
Not usually
strong forum
Kinda is
untold raven
As someone who has played hpally for years, I disagree :P
pallid quiver
It could be useful for mastery purposes I guess, but if a tank is playing well
I agree personally
strong forum
Like same reason I don't put earth shield on tank
The tank gets a hot and aoe healing
untold raven
But im also used to take that aren't like... cutting edge good. So they need it.
strong forum
But that's about it
untold raven
You don't even or earth shield on them for the damage reduction?
pallid quiver
tanks don't need it
strong forum
It's 3%
pallid quiver
If playing well
untold raven
6
strong forum
A tank who actually plays the game doesn't need that shit
untold raven
Need, no. But it helps. And most others won't really need it
strong forum
I'd rather have it on the dps
To get the 20% healing increase
Cuz they can actually die
If I don't heal em
untold raven
Man, healing has gotten so weird over the years. This is why I stopped, lmao
pallid quiver
a tank is either doing just fine with 6% not helping or is dead because they refuse to press their buttons
It's more that tanks have changed more so for this
pallid quiver
All tanks are barely healer reliant outside of mechanics
strong forum
If you spam heals on your tank you're wasting dmg
pallid quiver
Like, bosses can be legit soloable sometimes
untold raven
Oh, I've seen plenty of bosses get solo'd
sick sentinel
cata attonement was amazing
sick sentinel
spam hell out of smite and holy fire, keep up bubble, renew, maybe desperate prayer
untold raven
That's true
pallid quiver
I just watch their runic power
sick sentinel
also good about cata was the profession perks
that was amazing
tiny heal over time for taking herbing
untold raven
I can't tell you how many times I've dropped a big heal on a dk and he heals it all back as I hit the button
sick sentinel
more crit for sknn
trim condor
Is heal absorb on last boss of BH dangerous or you can 30% heal first one And second one just spam rage u ntil full?
untold raven
Runic power watch is real
median tulip
I HATE healing DKs
untold raven
Lmao
sick sentinel
i over cap on RP constantly like i do on warrior, as you might imagine
strong forum
I've had to heal a bdk a few times cuz he kited
untold raven
They're a decent shield target, but let them heal themselves
strong forum
Instead of having RP
opaque quest
All i need on my DK is an external not a heal
strong forum
He kited
untold raven
Ew
strong forum
Absolute pain
untold raven
I just keep getting warriors that won't use ignore pain
pallid quiver
I want those
untold raven
Cuz "much deeps"
strong forum
Ohno
sick sentinel
hp, energy, fine whatever, tanking too? okay...... pepega.... runes also? fuuuu
untold raven
And they keep falling over
pallid quiver
It's better than the ones that don't shied block
untold raven
Omg, those still exist?
pallid quiver
I've ran into a lot today
untold raven
vomits
sick sentinel
like, runes is sorta like, not that hard but its anoither thing i'd have to watch if iwant to play well
strong forum
They press IP instead of SB cuz IP shows up on healing meter
untold raven
facepalm
pallid quiver
Don't forget, IP is a 50% DR
strong forum
like, runes is sorta like, not that hard but its anoither thing i'd have to watc...
Atleast it's not wrath runes anymore
untold raven
Yeah, but shield block is up to 60% on a crit block
strong forum
85*
untold raven
Oh shit. What's regular block value these days? I haven't even paid attention to that
strong forum
~50% in m+
untold raven
I thought it was still like 30
untold raven
Good lord
sick sentinel
Atleast it's not wrath runes anymore
i legitametly and i don't even lie at all when say this, am actual too dumb to play UH, in any capacity
sick sentinel
i even had my DK main friend of like 3 years, try to explain to to me while we in a key on discord
untold raven
I've been playing hpally since mop. Just picked pwar back up this xpak
untold raven
No wonder it feels so strong
strong forum
Pwar is stronger than legion because of block rework
trim condor
And since DF it's ~50%
Is it stacking from strenght or tooltip is Wrong? I have 447 shield And with 5 stacks of that block value buff, I am at 47.4
strong forum
It goes up in m+
trim condor
Ah I see
strong forum
Because its less K-value than open world
untold raven
"Based on current target"
trim condor
Never checked it in key
strong forum
In mythic raid its alot less
untold raven
Me either xD
untold raven
What is it in raid?
trim condor
Always assumed these numbers go down in keys than in open world lol
untold raven
That's my main content
strong forum
Haven't really checked
Easiest way to check
Is just how much a crit, Spellblock does
Cuz in m+ a critblock with Spellblock is 100% DR
Because spells don't follow the 85% armor cap
Cuz duh
opaque quest
Hold me. Just had a druid release while i rezzed in HoI then didnt take shortcut on frog
Im gonna kill myself
strong forum
We love hoi
untold raven
Rip
strong forum
(I hate hoi with a burning passion you ain't getting me in that dungeon)
opaque quest
Cost us +2 by 1 mi
untold raven
Fuck that gauntlet. That is all
untold raven
Lol
pallid quiver
I hated just the appearance of like half the dungeons this season
so i just didn't play
opaque quest
Ill do it once for IO
pallid quiver
So many people got on my shit for that
strong forum
Idc bout score
opaque quest
Well i like invites
remote venture
HoI is the worst
trim condor
HOI Is terrible, hallway And I hate last boss aswell, melees sometimes stack circles around you And you cant go from boss or he will melee others š¦
trim condor
Yeah or sometimes evading mobs in gauntlet
strong forum
Hate when people don't press [
opaque quest
I love to press [
pallid quiver
he's pulling big sorry