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blazing condor
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but its now you should be able to parse

modern brook
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A dog without a beacon

lusty tiger
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a dog who knows no 99s (this szn)

sick sentinel
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whats worst game you guys ever played ever that wasn't like a bullshit game like it tried to be good and it was total ass

sick sentinel
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i never played that one

lusty tiger
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doom

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jk

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halo 4

sick sentinel
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oh, i was thinking more like, REALLY janky and old

lusty tiger
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deadspace 1

sick sentinel
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what part did you hate about that

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i though that was a pretty good one

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like 2/3rds in u can take some trophy, throw it over a ledge, and then its like you go collect another and throw it out of bounds then you save, then you load, then you sell all the things for infinite money for upgrade points

lusty tiger
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um

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i didnt even get that far

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because im disabled brain when it comes to singleplayer story

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i get lost and shit

sick sentinel
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u have to upgrade the gun or u get fucked

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thats all i remember for sure

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cuz the gun fires really slow

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so it has to one shot or conserve best u can

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(the slicing weapon)

lusty tiger
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guild wars 2

sick sentinel
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i dont wanna hear dead space too hard

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i beat that shit on impossible

lusty tiger
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it isnt hard

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i just get lost in games easily

sick sentinel
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use the map

daring marlin
lusty tiger
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yes

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i also dont have the patience

sick sentinel
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i do but not for very long

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i just remember which hallways lead to what

lusty tiger
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i love the souls games but cba to play them- i just watch friends play them

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bloodbourne is probably the coolest

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then elden ring

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then ds3

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from an outside looking in perspective with kess than 10hr on each

daring marlin
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nah bro

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Elden Ring and DS3 are the goats

lusty tiger
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u play bloodbourne ever?

modern brook
daring marlin
lusty tiger
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i may be a mod for weenie hut jr

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no need to flame

modern brook
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smh im agreeing

daring marlin
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fuckin' yoyos

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shut up ya yoyos

lusty tiger
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and if theres high or low terrain, to be told which it is

modern brook
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Bro do you remember Yoshi's canyon?

lusty tiger
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no

modern brook
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download mk64

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try and fiugre that shit out

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oh its yoshi's valley

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nvm

lusty tiger
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coworker blasting nsync in the office

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some coveted JT artistry

toxic tiger
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i struggle to survive on zskarn mythic, any tips?

strong forum
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pray to the heavens

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perma D-stance, SR on CD, have raid apply all attack speed slows on boss and tank as little as you can

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the boss doesnt get more anti-pwar

toxic tiger
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actually glad to hear that, i thought im a dum dum

uneven mason
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Remind healers they have external CDs

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Like coordinating your CD gaps with healer CDs is A+ mythic

uneven mason
grand veldt
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Based AF

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Rally has single handedly saved people in my groups from shattering below, an extra add spawn on rokmorra shatter, multiple instances in keys I've seen it help

toxic pewter
grand veldt
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I always rally the first part of 1st boss in FH

tired crystal
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could I grab some pointers for prot war rashok Mythicc please

grand veldt
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Generally I man handle the raid on that boss and drag it past each red void zone that gets dropped

opaque quest
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Tanked Rash for the first time today. Just taunt when DBM yells taunt. You can also get a WA for swap

jagged pier
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u wait for the third

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and u spell block it covers the first 2

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and sw the third each phase

tired crystal
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Ive done rashok MANY times, but just for some reason getting 1 hit a lot on taunt - Im trying to save CD's for the taunts

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is VERY squeeky when I take a hit

jagged pier
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because u arent using the correct defensives

tired crystal
opaque quest
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Ofc you dont need WA but i dont like using my brain and rather have someone yell at me

uneven mason
tired crystal
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Seems to be going okay now - Using the spreadsheet on what CD to use and when

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Haven't died

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Ty for advice guys

uneven mason
modern brook
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Warriors will complain about not having utility and in the same breath deride one of the strongest group defensives in the game @toxic pewter

toxic pewter
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I alrady have one heart on my forum comment I made, many agree with me, I stand by what I said

modern brook
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I fully believe you do that's the problem

toxic pewter
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yes

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still think we should get a buff for rally in group content like how dh darkness buffed

lusty tiger
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we should just get darkness

toxic pewter
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O_O

modern brook
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Prolly not even necessary tbh

strong forum
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well at this point darkness is better than rally

toxic pewter
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I mean I am just confused why dh gets a darkness buff for party and we dont

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like it just seems unfair

strong forum
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because darkness provides the 10% ontop of its 30% dodge chance

modern brook
toxic pewter
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as they already bring more utility than us

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15% raid 30% party

strong forum
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isnt darkness 10% DR + dodge chance

modern brook
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I thought it was x% to take 0

strong forum
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or was that SL only

toxic pewter
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i am not aware that it gives dr

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tbh

strong forum
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it gave DR in SL + dodge chance

toxic pewter
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ok

strong forum
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dunno if it still does

modern brook
strong forum
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mh okay it doesnt give DR anymore

toxic pewter
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still though, I am just upset we got a nerf due to rally being so good in raid, yet in party content we are still lackluster in utility at least if it worked 100% better like darkness does it would make me feel a bit better

strong forum
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so ig rally still better

toxic pewter
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i acknowledge rally is op in raid

strong forum
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we're still one of the only tank/dps who brings a raid CD

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so nothing changed

toxic pewter
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darkness situation is what changed

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its 30% in party!!!!!!!!!!!

strong forum
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yes ik

toxic pewter
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30%!!!!!!!!

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and they still have their utility

strong forum
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it is a weird change that we dont get smth like that for m+ aswell

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that is true

toxic pewter
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yeah I am just sort of upset it seems a bit unfair to me

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like I am happy for dh's

strong forum
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its DH

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darkness is exceedingly unreliable

toxic pewter
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if darkness didnt get that party buff i would just be like ok whatever

strong forum
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rally is 100% reliable

toxic pewter
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that is true

strong forum
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it still doesnt make darkness good

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but its defo more potent and more likely to have positive group effect

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what it is now, is a super powerful tank defensive for large pulls

modern brook
toxic pewter
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I mean i can actually see it helping become vdh meta

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tbh

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its a strong cd now

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very strong

strong forum
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for the tank itself

toxic pewter
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for entire group

modern brook
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Isn't vdh still a vessel for a teirset

toxic pewter
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it is more potent now

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like a lot of stack fights and stuff coming too

strong forum
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well its more potenent sure, but its not very strong

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darkness is good vs alot of dmg events

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its not good vs large singular hits

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if the fight isnt rot dmg

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its not all that good for the group

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even if its 30%

mellow bridge
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just depends on the encounter

strong forum
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its 200% more likely to be useful

mellow bridge
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new darkness would be REALLY good in some fights this season

toxic pewter
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still find it unfair to some extent because many people consider rally to be weak and bad as it was and now its about to be even more weak.

strong forum
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yeah like i said, if its rot dmg its good

mellow bridge
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e.g. every boss in halls besides the last

toxic pewter
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even earlier people argued with me saying rally is effectively awful

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and they dont even think about it

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now its about to be even more the case

mellow bridge
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rally has its uses in m+ but yea it's not thaaaat great

lusty tiger
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apb rallying people behind his cries on wow forums

toxic pewter
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yeah so why not make it work 100% more for parties

mellow bridge
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mostly in very high keys as well where it would allow you to survive a oneshot like fh first boss

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
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i posted in warrior feedback topic (unofficial topic btw, blizz didnt feel the need to make an official warrior feedback topic this ptr)

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not sure its worth an entire topic I guess

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i got 1 heart so far

ionic roost
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They should just make it 2m hp split across all allies

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That way in raid it's the same and it's juiced in m+

toxic pewter
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I mean I dunno, i think % is just better a static amount seems weird to me

lusty tiger
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or give it the tranquility treatment

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% ensures u dont have to buff it each patch

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nerfs it each patch

toxic pewter
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or make the health gain non temporary like a groupwide last stand

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that is my other idea

toxic pewter
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like the max hp will go away obviously, but can retain any heals from it

modern brook
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Oh

toxic pewter
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or make bitter immunity remove bleeds again. Apparently throne of tides has a nasty bleed or something i read

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we need some compensation

lusty tiger
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$$$

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compensate us with wowtokens

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for crafting bdk gear

daring marlin
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go beard

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I mean really

toxic pewter
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i did go dwarf and I liked it

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but i couldnt remain

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I cant deal with my thunderfury clipping into the ground

lusty tiger
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i wish i had a tf to clip into the ground

toxic pewter
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i even had to switch off vulpera cuz of same issue

modern brook
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I thought tot bleed was undwarfable

toxic pewter
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they fixed that today

modern brook
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Lame

toxic pewter
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there was a change. its a bleed now

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I am Troll again now, my most underrated prot warr race

strong forum
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the real RWF starts in 30min

toxic pewter
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wat that

strong forum
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whos ready

toxic pewter
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wat is it

strong forum
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ICC

toxic pewter
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oh right

strong forum
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90minutes of hardcore mega raiding

opaque quest
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Classic is super duper mega hard youre just biased because youre a retail andy

lusty tiger
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classic is hard because there's no heirloo...

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classic is hard because you need 40 peo...

strong forum
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classic is hard cuz youre not carried by addons

opaque quest
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I love all the classic stan arguments

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When cata classic drops ppl are gonna be mad they have to play mechanics

lusty tiger
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classic is hard because you have to watch dbm tim...

strong forum
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dont think classic cata will happen

lusty tiger
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i actually really want to play classic cata

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nome

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dont say that

opaque quest
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Same

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Was my first real raiding experience

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Firelands and DS CE

lusty tiger
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nome WE WANT CLASSIC CATA

opaque quest
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Did they ever say something about merging classic and retail?

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Im missing mage challenge mode and mage towers on my own account

toxic pewter
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reminder of my blizzcon predictions:

Going to announce new retail 11.0 expansion, classic+ (new content for vanilla wow), and as a 'one more thing' like steve jobs.. announcement: WoW 2 (coming in somewhat distanced future, will be like a sneak-peek)

opaque quest
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Youre high if you think blizz will ever make wow 2

toxic pewter
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its very far off

opaque quest
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Its so far off its on the backside of azeroth

strong forum
toxic pewter
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after blizz con

strong forum
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dunno if the classic andies will like that

opaque quest
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I like modern wow. Ngl. I didnt like SL but i liked MoP and Legion

strong forum
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well yeah i also prefer modern wow

opaque quest
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I like DF too even tho it pisses me off hard with the loot

strong forum
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a more involved rotation

toxic pewter
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classic+ is all but confirmed, alliance getting high elves and horde getting ogres or somethin

strong forum
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DF is just kinda boring

lusty tiger
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nome pls

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cata

opaque quest
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Ye not much to do besides M+ and Raid

toxic pewter
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yeah df my least favorite xpac yet

opaque quest
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We have been indoctrinated to miss choreghast critcake

lusty tiger
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i know ur whispering sweet nothings to Ian

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i like df because i HATE WORLD QUESTS

opaque quest
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Same

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I dont wanna be outside instanced content

lusty tiger
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im ok not playing only world of warcraft

opaque quest
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Yep. Ditto. Most fun in the last 6 months have been the 3 weeks in Lies of P gaming wise

lusty tiger
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lies of ?

strong forum
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im looking for a new addiction

opaque quest
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Lies of P has huge PP

lusty tiger
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!

strong forum
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but ive not had one for like 4 weeks aside from Cyberpunk for a bit

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and my rsham for 3 days

opaque quest
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Nothing worth playing as a second job

strong forum
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nah im good

opaque quest
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This has been my stuff so far

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Alts until no tomorrow

lusty tiger
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ur names are so troll

opaque quest
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Panda

lusty tiger
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sorry but no name beats deadlifter420

opaque quest
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Hes the immovable object while Chad Thundercock is the unstoppable force

hazy bronze
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Drugs are a good addiction i hear

waxen frigate
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start gambling

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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well this true, i deleted prot in SL S1

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๐Ÿ˜„

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undeleted in s4 when resubbed

uneven mason
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That was BFA 8.0 the "Throw Rock" era

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Also the ๐Ÿ‘ข ๐Ÿต ๐Ÿ‘ Era

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People think tanks do a lot of damage now keksquad

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Pwar pulling 70% of a groups damage yum

south zealot
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@waxen frigate is this a correct breakdown

waxen frigate
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key?

south zealot
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brackenhide 14

waxen frigate
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uhh

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that looks okayish

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RJW kinda low

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ChP shit efficiency

south zealot
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what is chp

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and yeah i only had 75% uptime on it

cerulean tusk
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I just had a thought, and I went wondering. Did they ever fix the warrior "cheat death" node?

strong forum
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nothing conclusive

cerulean tusk
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Oh well, will prob remember it is a thing and wonder again next expansion

mellow bridge
waxen frigate
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chp is charred passions

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damage should be (bok damage + sck damage)/2

south zealot
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o ok

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thanks

waxen frigate
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you should have high uptime but it isn't a technically useful metric

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the useful metric is efficiency

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which is the equation above

vocal nimbus
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reclearing for first time in a long ass time

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thought zskarn would be easier by now

blazing condor
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nop yep

waxen frigate
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it's easier than it was when i killed it ๐Ÿ™‚

vocal nimbus
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still hits like a truck

waxen frigate
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just warrior things tbh

lusty grotto
lusty grotto
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from one of the groups i do mythic raids with

strong forum
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i went over it extensively aswell

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hence why i said

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nothing conlusive

lusty grotto
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๐Ÿ‘

strong forum
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exactly 90min race

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damn im good

opaque quest
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LK already dead?

strong forum
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ye

pallid quiver
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90 min for LK kill?

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Damn, I was off by like 15 mins

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I thought it'd be an hour 45

sick sentinel
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i dont watn wrath cata

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already played bfa

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panda and cata too

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or, i think thats whgen tthey should stop

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and its a different cataclysm

waxen frigate
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but youve also already played doom

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and you talk about it every day

toxic pewter
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Lol damn that was quick

sick sentinel
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you know why i play doom

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cuz its really really really really fucking easy

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adn it sfree

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
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i wont say i have intimate knowledge of doom 1

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but i mean, theres not much i don't know about or how to do on doom

waxen frigate
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ok can you 360 noscope

sick sentinel
waxen frigate
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I just made a banger joke in #fury yall better go laugh at it so they know it's funny

waxen frigate
toxic pewter
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Wat

ionic roost
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Eventually we'll get MoP, WoD and Legion classic

toxic pewter
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No

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They are moving toward new content for classic+ as if the dark portal never opened for bc. Alliance getting high elves and horde getting ogres as new races

lusty tiger
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Doom 2016 or DIE

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-Yogi

copper lion
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In Neltharus on Chargath, should dps and heals run to chains?

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Or does tank need to run to them?

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preferably

lusty grotto
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tank

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tank manages the dot

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if dps are doing so, they are absolute fucking idiots

jagged gust
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That's the safest way, pug's may wind up making a bee line for you though, so there's twice the kiting

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gotta kite the dps AND the boss

lusty grotto
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you dont want to go over 2 stacks on fort, and/or ask the healer how much stacks they are comfy with

boreal heath
lusty grotto
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ackchually one guy'd

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everyone knows what i meant

lusty tiger
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someone come heal this +17 pug im in

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
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GET ME IN

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tell em to put nish in the groupfinder name

lusty tiger
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told em

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+17 nish

waxen frigate
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wait which one are you

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lmao

lusty tiger
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the dk

waxen frigate
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ah

cinder marsh
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hey yall know when is the new patch?

waxen frigate
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in the future

cinder marsh
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like with new mythic plus pool and ect

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no date?

waxen frigate
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nope

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just like me, no dates

lusty grotto
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after blizzcon in nov

lusty tiger
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nish carried as MW

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100k dps no aug

waxen frigate
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Iโ€™m a chad

lusty grotto
daring marlin
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Dates are tasty

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Prunes are better tho

lusty tiger
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plums are better

frozen rose
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wondering if someone can help me with this..my understanding of wowlogs is not great. on M rashok my dps was 62k. Not my greatest performance, not my worse. This put me at a 44% on wowlogs. Yet, when I look at the rankings for this fight: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/33#boss=2689&class=Warrior&spec=Protection&page=2 That dps should put be within the top 100 on that ranking. So obvz I'm not understanding something about how the parse system works. Can someone tell me what I'm not understanding? THanks much

lusty grotto
frozen rose
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right, apparently. what exactly reflects the parce percent?

lusty grotto
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this guy

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o zskarn

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im kinda confused

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you said

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rashok

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and then linked rankings of zskarn?

frozen rose
lusty grotto
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the ranking ladder

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youre looking at zskarn instead of rashok

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youre 8k dps lower than rank 100 which is lmao nerf

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either way rank number is NOT equal to parse percent

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disassociate those 2

frozen rose
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OH lol had wrong page i guess, weird thx

fluid torrent
hoary juniper
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This you?

lusty grotto
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i wouldnt go into another class discord announcing you got banned

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you did

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that was the last straw of you being an idiot

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and youve been an idiot here as well

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its just mods havent noticed yet

fluid torrent
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What a weird take.

heady gulch
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u asked to get banned, and i did, honestly didn't read anything else u wrote

dusky canopy
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I'm still trying to understand why youre even talking right now

heady gulch
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first post i've seen of urs was u pinging

fluid torrent
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You pinged all the moderators

heady gulch
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anyone who wants to get banned from HoW is welcome to ping me in that discord and ask for ban

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๐Ÿ’

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UwU

sturdy sierra
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ur bein promoted to mod buddy hope youve got your fedora

lusty tiger
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wtf goin on

lusty tiger
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๐Ÿค”

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Proof?

sweet summit
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i made it up

lusty tiger
sweet summit
lucid pasture
sharp ruin
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yo guys with the 10.2 tier set u think we will be a good tank in raid?

pallid quiver
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absolutely terrible, unusable class

sharp ruin
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Nah i dont think so ๐Ÿ˜‚

sweet summit
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prot owns

jagged pier
grand veldt
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What ability works like fervent strike in brackenhide?

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the slimes do it

blazing condor
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Monstrous Decay?

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or what slimes

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probably this in that case

grand veldt
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ty

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god that cast is fast

autumn sinew
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According to the spreadsheet for blockable spells, it is bloackable. So if you find it to be too big of a problem, you can opt for Spell Block?

grand veldt
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i was more concerned about not being in range so it kills one of my team members

broken stratus
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Donโ€™t think there is anything that fervent strike in BH. Donโ€™t think there is much fervent strike in s2.

sick sentinel
oblique garnet
sick sentinel
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im awake now for more doom discussions

waxen frigate
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Please stay on topic @sick sentinel. This is a protection warrior discord channel. If you continue this nonsensical posting about โ€œDoomโ€ I will have no other choice than to contact the moderators and petition for your removal from the channel.

sick sentinel
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i thought this was the doom channel

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
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the only personal agenda im pushing okay

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is wow not being a total pile of dogshit

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for pretty much everyone

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i have been playing this spec and game for like 5 years now, i don't hate wow, im just not content atm

trim bay
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Yogi you logged on wow

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Today

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Your not a pile of dog shit

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Games ded

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Your already best tank on server

sick sentinel
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gaming in general not going down the tubes

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thats my final enteral crusade

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will never stop that battle

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so, yeah, i do got a bit of agenda,, thats about far as it goes

uneven mason
blazing condor
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meanwhile im fishing in ZM to get the jellyfish

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and the sword

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high octane gameplay

sick sentinel
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doesn't have to be hi-octane twitch reflexes game

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but it stops me from turning it off early in boredom

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im more likely to play a really hard game for 8 hours and get burnt out or play a boring easy game with nothing to do or zero challenge for about 2 hours

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then i stop generally

toxic tiger
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when do i wanna press revenge?

uneven mason
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I used to be a super completionist when it came to the little extras in wow, but as I get older I just can't find the time between changing my depends and spongebaths

uneven mason
toxic tiger
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so never? xD

uneven mason
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I mean, sometimes it do be like that

sick sentinel
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SB > revenge > IP for spenders, generally

blazing condor
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revenge and IP biggest dumps

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IP being off gcd

uneven mason
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As is sb

jagged pier
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revenge also doesnt have a higher prio than ip

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deciding what to spend your rage on is situational

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not a sted fast rule

sick sentinel
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Shield Block if down/2 charges
Revenge on CD
IP

uneven mason
sick sentinel
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My point

uneven mason
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Is wrong

sick sentinel
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what about, how much do i have to worry about, if i correctly pummel a mob and it no longer can cast any spells and it comes to melee me, do i have to worry about those melees as much as brute mob

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i never stop to think about this

uneven mason
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Yes

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ABB

sick sentinel
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cartoon logic would dictate you stop the witch from casting her spell and she goes to hit you and she's brittle so she falls apart

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not everything in wow is set in stone

lusty grotto
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good morning brownies

uneven mason
lusty grotto
inland raft
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With high hastr most of the time its just ss>tc>ss pressing ip to prevent overcapping. Some people go to the gym to get git, i go to the gym to strengthen my bosy yo prevent injury from keyboard spam

fading tide
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Which dps u guys play as a offspec fury or arms

sweet summit
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the objectively cooler spec (fury)

blazing condor
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man

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i got the strange goop

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but i recast too fast

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and i didnt get it in my bag

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am i just fucked

waxen frigate
uneven mason
#

Because I have the spacial awareness of a deaf mole, so I die when I dps

modern brook
sweet summit
#

you sure it's a typo? ๐Ÿซฆ

sick sentinel
#

yes

#

its a phone/tablet typo

#

cuz they kb on them all sucks ass

sweet summit
sick sentinel
#

and then in wow, u have all these random words and made up words

modern brook
sick sentinel
#

so, u have to turn off auto correct to stop arthas from Autocorrecting into "arthritis"

#

and then

#

bam

#

u get fucked

#

again

#

screwed with it on, screwed with it off (autocorrect) on phones

#

if u notice, when im at pc, my spelling, grammar, use of commas capital letters etc, is alot better

#

(sometimes)

toxic pewter
sweet summit
#

uh

#

no

toxic pewter
#

Fury brings shame on our class

#

Any reputable and well known prot warr with any taste is an arms individual

sweet summit
#

nuh uh

toxic pewter
#

Sure the mindless drones will flock fury but true chads with high intelligence know the correct warr dps spec and always will

#

I actively look down on fury warriors and pity them

modern brook
sick sentinel
#

I dont really understand it, but someone threw out a CIB wireless mouse and kb in the trash

#

tested everything out it all works, guess cuz its membrane

toxic pewter
#

nice find

sick sentinel
#

another time i found a box to one of exact routers i got from the isp

#

never know if you dont look

#

its that rare 0.02% drop rate

lusty tiger
#

PROT POPPING OFF THIS AM

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
cerulean tusk
#

Where it belongs xan

sweet summit
#

sondic!!! :DD

lusty tiger
#

Nish and erga coomer-core posting again

sweet summit
#

again??

lusty tiger
#

Againโ€ฆ

sweet summit
#

this is my first offence officer...

lusty tiger
#

Your very presence in here is your first strike buddy

sweet summit
sick sentinel
#

@waxen frigate yes, in brand new at the store condition

#

package not all fucked up

waxen frigate
#

Do you regularly look through the trash

sick sentinel
#

turned it on works

lusty tiger
#

One manโ€™s trash is yogiโ€™s treasure

sick sentinel
#

when i go to throw out the trash at my common trashbin the odd time

urban portal
#

13

lusty tiger
#

Give it up man pokimane left you

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
#

๐Ÿฅถ

waxen frigate
sweet summit
cerulean tusk
#

Prot doomin or memein

lusty tiger
lusty tiger
cerulean tusk
#

That meal is not roid approved

lusty tiger
#

?

sweet summit
#

why did u circumsice the chickem ๐Ÿ˜ญ

ember tangle
#

is there a way to tell somewhat easily which abilities are affected by avoidance stat?

lusty tiger
#

Jewish chicken

waxen frigate
sweet summit
#

any ability that has the potential to hit more than one player (dots not counting)

waxen frigate
ember tangle
#

so debuff remove dot on sark is not avoidance reduced

#

but frontal cleave in p3 is?

sweet summit
#

idk what sark is or does but sounds right

ember tangle
#

sarkareth

sweet summit
#

yeah i don't raid

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
sweet summit
#

what the heck nish

ember tangle
#

i just seem to remember sometimes where avoidance worked on wierd abilities

waxen frigate
sick sentinel
#

ill have to fully test it more to see that all the keys still work, but it instnatly turned on

sweet summit
#

i think rogues have a feint sheet, and avoidance should work on same stuff as feint (without the funny extra feint talent)

#

faint?

#

idfk

#

probably pinned in any spec channel, at least was in SL iirc

sick sentinel
#

fient used to be extremely sltrong back in wrath is main thing i know

#

you'd just hit it any time some bombs or fire was about to go out

waxen frigate
#

It still is extremely strong

sweet summit
#

dps loss innit

lusty tiger
#

Nish works to afford his pokimane t3 sub

waxen frigate
#

(Iโ€™m working rn)

#

Is everyone excited for the weekend

lusty tiger
#

No

#

I like waking up then driving to work

ember tangle
#

good shout though

lusty grotto
#

feint is the reason rogues dont enchant avoidance on cloak and bracers

#

so yes its still widely used and strong

modern brook
#

either it's immuned, feintable, or procs cheat death

#

Unless they updated it in the last year then I'm just memeing and made u look lmao owned

lusty grotto
#

well played well played

uneven mason
sick sentinel
#

maxmimum rage

lusty tiger
#

hey ive seen that b4

lusty grotto
#

nome in shambles

sick sentinel
#

that is the facial expression of a man who is ready to kill

#

if you ever see it, fear for your life

lusty tiger
uneven mason
lusty tiger
#

Dam now I want a lb of cheese

sick sentinel
#

look, im just saying, alright, okay? okay

lusty tiger
#

Bit of a stretch

sick sentinel
#

future asmon-old in rage form

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
#

๐Ÿค”

lusty tiger
#

Song

lusty tiger
#

Tru

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
#

Is

waxen frigate
#

Are you trying to attack me, my music taste, or both

lusty tiger
#

Neither just thought you may like it

lusty tiger
#

^

lusty tiger
#

o7

#

Wait why it go so hard tho

#

Lmfao

waxen frigate
#

Itโ€™s literally so much better than it has any right to be

lusty tiger
#

Actually impressive

waxen frigate
#

Have you seen glorbโ€™s songs

lusty tiger
#

No

waxen frigate
#

Holy fuck

#

Ok so

#

Itโ€™s like an entire saga

#

Of ai-voice SpongeBob songs

#

But theyโ€™re all original

#

And the dude is very clearly actually insanely good at songwriting

lusty tiger
#

WTF

waxen frigate
#

This is the newest

#

It is the most bizarre unhinged shit

#

And the guy behind it clearly has so much talent lmao

#

The one before it

lusty tiger
#

This guy

#

And the music video too

#

How wild

waxen frigate
#

It is s-tier shitposting

lusty tiger
#

S+

urban portal
#

then its STD

#

then everything else is a tier below

waxen frigate
#

YOUNG ENOUGH TO DIE AND IM RICH ENOUGH TO FUCK

uneven mason
#

Nish are you trying to one-up for most tasteless YouTube videos posted

lusty tiger
#

This had some get off my lawn vibes

uneven mason
waxen frigate
#

This is the music I usually listen to

#

This is the most zoomer core shit ever and I love it

lusty tiger
wind oak
#

thats so smart

waxen frigate
#

Does this work for my fishes at home

#

With normal batteries

lusty tiger
#

Yes

waxen frigate
#

Ok

#

Sticking out your GYAT for the rizzler

#

Youโ€™re so skibidi

#

Youโ€™re so fanum tax

lusty tiger
#

Skibidi

waxen frigate
#

Saw this and thought of you @lusty tiger

ionic fern
#

Aight, enough of this topic.

lusty tiger
waxen frigate
lusty tiger
#

We have perhaps made it a bit smelly in here

lusty tiger
solemn current
#

I'm not high when I say that spell reflect has been bugged for a little while and sometimes doesn't reflect yea?

lusty grotto
#

yeah youre high

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, never once had that issue

solemn current
#

Literally have it up seconds before a spell goes off and it just doesn't reflect

#

Seems like it mainly happens in NL on the bosses, but it's just randomly not procing the reflect at times and only been an issue since maybe .7

lusty grotto
#

get server ticked

pallid quiver
#

Healers really don't like to dispell

#

Like, the fucking hate that button

lusty grotto
#

no, they just dont know

pallid quiver
#

i was stuck in place for 30 sec

lusty grotto
#

yeah well most of them dont play with frames that indicate dispellable shit

lusty tiger
#

thats pretty weak

ionic fern
#

Can't figre it out tho.

#

Seems really inconsistent.

lusty grotto
#

you're just getting server ticked

#

thats all it is

wind oak
#

isnt that because Shadowflame proc just munch the SR @ionic fern ?

lusty grotto
#

๐Ÿค”

wind oak
#

i'm sure its because of some dumbshit like that

lusty grotto
#

ok consider me curious now

#

time to sit on a dummy for 3 hours

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

idk feels weird if that was the case

#

NL last boss just has the problem of having specific timings, so a server tick can fuck you over real bad

#

at least when trying to get all 3 reflects before 2nd phase

#

if it was something like shadowflame, it would happen a lot more often and it doesnt, it's always "but my NL bosses"

#

shit M Exp or M Zskarn are good fights to check it since you should have SR up all the time after a certain number of stacks for the DR

#

and obviously you do not reflect anything in that fight

#

or those fights

#

a server tick - if late - can certainly fuck the snapshot for the reflect

uneven mason
#

Know what the largest issue with the last boss in NL is?

lusty tiger
#

it existing

lusty grotto
#

but why

lusty tiger
#

and requiring more pug coordination than ususal

uneven mason
#

Ranged that spawn the wall in bumblefuck

lusty tiger
#

^

lusty grotto
#

lmao

#

you know how many invis/vanish/meld pulls are giga ruined by that shit

#

but also in that case its the evoker's fault for not rescuing

#

or SPs

blazing condor
#

last boss is easy if the whole group stacks

#

giant spawns on bosses left hand

#

you can reflect the attacks

#

big bedge

blazing condor
#

yw sweaty

lusty grotto
#

on this weather, hell yes

foggy wigeon
#

Hi, I havent really paid much attention to wow for few months so im wondering, How does so far prot compare to other tanks in the comming patch / now ? ( am not really the best player usually im just comfy in around 18-22 key range on m+ )

uneven mason
#

Yes

#

Did I do it right @lusty grotto

mighty valley
dusky canopy
#

Warrior is THEE meta

#

Idk what harrow is talking about

warm plinth
#

Warrior is meta in my โค๏ธ

strong forum
#

youll be MORE than fine in 18-22s

pallid quiver
#

no don't listen to reason, acknowledge that there's nothing you can do, class is unplayable, might as well delete your account for even daring to think of playing a class as utterly incapable as prot war

toxic pewter
#

Warrior needs a rework asap

#

All three specs

#

We the class in most need of rework

#

Ground up rework to be honest

torn gulch
toxic pewter
#

What so funny

torn gulch
#

there are other classes that need it more

toxic pewter
#

No

torn gulch
#

like hunter

#

for example

toxic pewter
#

No you are incorrect

torn gulch
#

ok

foggy wigeon
toxic pewter
#

Warrior most dated feeling class in the game

pallid quiver
strong forum
#

Currently people rate pwar higher in s3 than current season

#

So public perception is getting better

#

Don't worry much about the "getting invites" it's really not that bad

torn gulch
#

with how easy is to gear nowadays you can hold multiple tanks

pallid quiver
#

The only issue is currently public perception, which like Nome's mentioning, is getting better

#

As well as it's not really that hard to get invites

foggy wigeon
#

oh so i wont even have to really worry about that ๐Ÿ˜„ great ๐Ÿ˜„ everything looking great then

pallid quiver
#

you just don't get invited as much to trap groups as often as non-meta

torn gulch
#

with how short the community is on tanks and healers it's significantly easier to get invited that as a dps

pallid quiver
#

They'd have to do some wild shit in encounter design to make current Prot War not good

mighty valley
#

anyway don't rework prot warrior since it's the tank i like, the real only opinion that matters

toxic pewter
lusty grotto
#

let apb cook

daring marlin
#

shut up boomer

#

mf nimchip steve buscemi hello fellow kids head ass

lusty grotto
daring marlin
toxic pewter
median tulip
lusty tiger
#

^

mighty valley
#

prot warrior already punishes players who aren't cycling rage well pretty badly

#

banner just triples down on that

#

"bring back banner" mostly means "give me 24% extra strength"

lusty grotto
#

youre not wrong but

#

banner uptime was a huge flex point

#

since it required such high apm and rage management with reprisal

lusty tiger
#

Iโ€™m HELLO

lusty grotto
#

the principal reason why people want it back is to flex their banner duration, and i dont blame them

#

it felt good

mighty valley
#

FDKs cry whenever breath of sindragosa is basically mandatory for long periods of time, there's a chance we end up with that feeling if banner became permanent

toxic pewter
# median tulip Bring back banner

I am not against that I guess, blizz needs to lean extremely hard into each spec and rework them. I guess prot could be the rage loop mechanic. Like make some crazy cool interactions in our rework. Would be bad ass

lusty tiger
#

IS EVERYBODY FOREGETTING THE MOVESPEED BUFF

lusty grotto
#

certainly wasnt necessary -> see nerf not keeping banner up for shit

mighty valley
#

i don't really think they can give us forever immunity to movespeed reductions lol

lusty grotto
toxic pewter
#

the movespeed buff was awesome but could lower it or even remove it if it comes to that

lusty tiger
#

Part of the move speed was that it let you greed melee uptime longer for better banner uptime which was another facet of the skill ceiling

toxic pewter
#

yeah cant deny the speed was linked to the uptime

mighty valley
#

we already have cool rage interactions in our kit! we get CDR and enormous outburst shield slams!

lusty grotto
#

i see what youre saying harrow dont worry

lusty tiger
#

Yawn

lusty grotto
#

i dont disagree

toxic pewter
#

I mean I love shield slam like any other guy but I think if a rework were to happen some cool shit could come of it. I am an optimist by nature though

lusty tiger
#

Falling asleep thinking about how lame it is compared to how cool it could be

lusty grotto
#

yes banner is unneeded at the current state of the game, but, we like to flex skill gaps

lusty tiger
#

We could have ravager as a part of AM

toxic pewter
#

honestly in the rework, just remove ravager, make a cooler aoe ability

lusty tiger
#

I can think of a less cool one

toxic pewter
#

need to remove a lot of crap

median tulip
#

I remember when Anger Management included Last Stand CDR

lusty tiger
#

Ravager that spins around you

toxic pewter
#

yeah like an unironic bladestorm or shieldtorm is just more fun lmao

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

never

#

hes confusing it with DC

lusty tiger
toxic pewter
#

wasnt it in bfa

lusty tiger
#

DC?

lusty grotto
#

deafening crash

toxic pewter
#

in bfa am did lower ls cd i think

#

oh

lusty tiger
median tulip
#

It was in BfA

lusty grotto
#

oh wait no

#

yeah hes right

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

bro my memory

#

im ancient

median tulip
#

xD

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

what can i do

#

dc just extended demo shout

#

duration

lusty tiger
#

Yawn

#

Banner

#

NOW

median tulip
#

Deafening Crash was ok

lusty grotto
#

well we only needed just the 1

median tulip
#

You'd take it if the Azerite piece had it

lusty grotto
#

BoM x3 all day

lusty tiger
#

The thing where avatar gave u mastery?

lusty grotto
#

ye

median tulip
#

That was sick

lusty grotto
#

thats what we recommended here

lusty tiger
#

Yea then u tc spam

mighty valley
#

apb put on your game design hat for me. outline the goals you would propose to achieve with your prot warrior rework

lusty grotto
#

x3 BoM x1 DC

#

yeah tc spam

lusty tiger
#

Am still yawning

lusty grotto
#

with demo shout leggo

#

and DC

#

and tlord

lusty tiger
#

Banner AND make free revenges count towards banner rage spent

lusty grotto
#

you had perma demo shout on mobs

#

tlords + BV

#

so more damage

#

and since you were bootyclapping ๐Ÿ‘ข ๐Ÿต ๐Ÿ‘ (TM Skyhold)

#

shit never ran out

#

also AM cdr'd demo shout as well

#

it was last stand, wall, avatar (only in BFA though) and demo

lusty tiger
#

Ok but can u PLEASE add ravager to that list

median tulip
#

A relatively easy change to Protection Warrior would be to do the following:
1: Remove the pathways leading from FbV/BrV and Challenging Shout to Shield Wall
2: Swap the positions of Bloodborne and Bolster
3: Put in pathways that lead from Bloodsurge to (the new location of) Bloodborne, and from Instigate to Thunderlord

#

The pathways in point 1 are completely useless because EVERYONE takes Rend

lusty tiger
#

Tbh I donโ€™t understand why we got TR

lusty grotto
#

well its part of the class tree

lusty tiger
#

TR makes no sense for prot other than doing damage

mighty valley
#

bleed synergies

lusty tiger
#

Meh

mighty valley
#

ok

lusty grotto
#

this isnt the first time we have some iteration of TR

#

we had talents for dragon roar back then as well

#

which is the same thing

lusty tiger
#

What is a bleed synergy

toxic pewter
mighty valley
#

you are fired from the job of game designer

toxic pewter
#

i am too lazty to type out all my plans rn

#

thats fine even steve jobs was fired from apple

#

people like me look at being fired as a challenge

#

i will never stop

#

until i die

median tulip
#

Thye last time I got fired from a company they had to hire me back on a day rate three times higher than my salary because they couldn't replace me

lusty tiger
#

That is an epic gamer moment

#

Raking in the dough

mighty valley
#

are you all suggesting that apb is basically like the steve jobs of game design

lusty tiger
#

Yes

median tulip
#

I've tried using Apple Tech; I don't think that's a compliment

lusty grotto
#

i remember BFA utility discussion, because there were a lot of bdk rerollers back when s2 brough reaping and we just fucking shot up to meta in an instant

#

and the complaint was why doesnt warrior have a grip

daring marlin
#

muh viability

lusty grotto
#

and i still remember my idea

#

that warriors should just put up a literal force wall and everyone behind would be out of line of sight

mighty valley
#

bdks: "we don't have utility"
raid: "it's basically mandatory to have 2+ grips on this fight"
bdks: "that doesn't count"

daring marlin
#

I member that

lusty grotto
#

so casters would have to go through the force wall

#

for those moments where timmy the mage cant fucking hit his counterspell or whatever lmao

daring marlin
#

force wall...should just rip a rock out of the ground

lusty grotto
#

yeah

median tulip
#

BDK gives me a headache

daring marlin
#

muh utility

median tulip
#

I watch my co-tanks HP bar do it's yo-yo impression all the time

toxic pewter
#

and even if you dont like the guy himself

mighty valley
#

it was really cool how he drank so much juice he cured himself of cancer

toxic pewter
#

he did a lot of shady stuff its true

#

and dumb stuff

median tulip
#

I literally know nothing aboiiut the guy. But the tech is shite.

mighty valley
#

loved my ipod

lusty tiger
#

Pwar earth bender

#

Sounds like an evoker tank thing

median tulip
#

I also hate having BDK tanks when I'm on my healer. They just fucking die at random

median tulip
lusty tiger
#

i wouldnt mind a shaman and evoker tank

daring marlin
toxic pewter
#

yeah according to the leak i most believe is true, shaman tank coming 11.0

median tulip
#

Everyone is going to have a 4th spec, except DH still only has 2

lusty grotto
#

i hope DH gets Warden ranged spec

#

and then hunters will ree

median tulip
#

A DH Ranged spec would be good

lusty tiger
#

um

#

if it is support

#

but not a rdps spec lol

lusty grotto
#

sure

#

that could work

#

but we have 4 magical ranged specs

daring marlin
lusty grotto
#

so why not another physical ranged spec

median tulip
#

TBH, If they were making the game again, with the benefits of hindsight, I would expect that each class would not have multiple specs for the same role

#

(counting ranged, melee and support as different roles)

lusty grotto
#

fucking resident evil 6

daring marlin
#

5

lusty grotto
#

oh

#

yeah

#

punch the rock

median tulip
lusty grotto
#

excuse me, the boulder

#

that was the wesker fight iirc right?

#

im so glad thats the last resident evil that was dogshit campy

#

cause we got 7 and village out of it

#

well technically 5 and 6 were the bad ones

#

cause 4/CV/3/2/1 were good

mighty valley
#

i wish 5 was better, co op was cool

lusty grotto
#

though voice acting on the first one was hilarious

#

"don't worry jill, i've got THIS"

daring marlin
#

idgaf what anyone says

#

5 was a banger

mighty valley
#

re1 lines live in my brain

#

you were almost a JILL SANDWICH

daring marlin
#

4 was better but 5 owned

lusty grotto
#

LMAO

mighty valley
#

"he's sleeping with the ultimate failure"

lusty grotto
#

xD