From snes and n64
#protection
toxic pewter
The best way to put n64 was you were in the right place at the right time with that console more than any other console
Nothing has come close to that
toxic pewter
But objectively ps2 is best even ps1 was great
modern brook
The best way to put n64 was you were in the right place at the right time with t...
????????? the right place is your parents living room with no responsibilities and the right time is when you were like 12
toxic pewter
Lol
lusty grotto
resident evil, metal gear solid, ff7/8
modern brook
nothings come close cause you work now bro
toxic pewter
????????? the right place is your parents living room with no responsibilities a...
I mean kinda
modern brook
nothing to do with the quality of the game
lusty grotto
yeah thats just nostalgia
toxic pewter
But they are good games too though
lusty grotto
yeah no doubt
modern brook
for n64 i think thats cap af
THere is literally no game that is even close to contention for goat status on the n64 that the game cube sequel didnt blow out of the water
lusty grotto
aside from ocarina of time i mean
lusty grotto
windwaker was gamecube though
modern brook
THere is literally no game that is even close to contention for goat status on t...
right
modern brook
and people were wrong then
modern brook
yeah peoples complaint was that it wasnt COD GRITTY REALISM
like my guy its zorldo chiller
lusty grotto
yeah idk, the main console andy war over at the time was how playstation console games were so mature in comparison to nintendo consoles
they arent overhyped
toxic pewter
Yah I have botw but still only like 20% done with it just can’t seem to enjoy them as much for some reason
modern brook
high key
the only difference between OW2 and toke is that the people that play toke arent rabid losers and dont care that they're getting the same game again with like 2 changes
lusty grotto
and i guess armored core
modern brook
toke is a 60 dollar patch note
lusty grotto
🤷
modern brook
it beinyg in goty contention at all is just nintendo priv
lusty tiger
i am too zoomer for singleplayer story games
mighty valley
THere is literally no game that is even close to contention for goat status on t...
mario 64 was undefeated until odyssey imo
it's insane how good sm64 was as basically the first 3d platformer of its kind
lusty grotto
yea
modern brook
mario 64 was undefeated until odyssey imo
i can give 64 a pass
but sunshine is on par
mighty valley
sunshine was a little too fuckin weird
modern brook
yah fludd movement felt ass until you were used to it
I'll concede sm64 happily though game is actually amazing even to toays standards
minus dogwater camera controls but it handles itself
mighty valley
yeah... compared to goldeneye which is basically impossible to go back to
modern brook
golden eye is ass (to play) ( today)
cursive prawn
mario 64 was undefeated until odyssey imo
In terms of Mario or platformers?
mighty valley
i wonder how many days of straight playing goldeneye it would take for your eyes to adjust now
cursive prawn
Because if platformers, Banjo Kazooie took that crown imo
lusty grotto
i wonder how many days of straight playing goldeneye it would take for your eyes...
ugh fuck that
modern brook
oh fuck forgot about the banjo
modern brook
NGL i think sm64 smokes banjo still
mighty valley
i'm not quite a banjo hater but i definitely thought it was overrated at the time
modern brook
but im willing to admit i am a banjo hater
mighty valley
didn't like the direction it went with a million different kinds of collectible
lusty grotto
yeah banjo was great, but it wasnt a mario 64
modern brook
DK64
now theres a game
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BANANA
how come wow doesnt have that sound effect?
mighty valley
dk64 is carried by having the best rap of all time
toxic pewter
Dk64 so good
modern brook
dusky canopy
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BANANA
Totally missed opportunity with the pandaria monkeys
lusty grotto
i never played DK64
cursive prawn
fantastic game but it had way too many collectibles
lusty grotto
i think it got mixed reviews at the time so i said fuck it
modern brook
its literally a rareware game
they'rea ll the same
but this one goes
OH! banana! everytime you get a big banana
so it owns
cursive prawn
Boxing king k rool in the end
Good times
Now I'm nostalgic for donkey Kong country
brisk kelp
thanks for the site it helped big! see what packs i need and dont did my first +10 tank
opaque quest
@south zealot gimme your brew build plsty
south zealot
ok but just note its not designed to be optimal its just to have less keybinds than normal brew builds
south zealot
opaque quest
Export code? :>
south zealot
BwQAK5xc05YQdq4E+VOLrE2vpCAAAAAASAAAAgUiSJJJQSSrRAAAASLUSiEJ0KkkSSSJBQRi0SpkIA
strong forum
Pta 💀
opaque quest
❤️ thx
south zealot
Pta 💀
yeah i kept fucking up my opener with weapons of order and exploding keg and i would die so i just switched to pta instead of learning how to play the spec
strong forum
Smh
opaque quest
Avoiding work > putting work in
I saw the Video from sha. He said PTA might even be better for overall dmg in M+
south zealot
yeah it might be better for overall padding but u lose a ton of st bc u lose tiger palm
strong forum
You lose shitloads of dmg in ST by playing pta
south zealot
Doesnt PTA give sun kick dmg?
yes but its not nearly enough
pta is objectively worse but for 13 keys i dont care
opaque quest
Turns out i can fit WoO and TP if i use my heavy MMO mouse
mighty valley
what's with all this brewmaster talk. everyone knows the topic of this channel is classic consoles
opaque quest
And when it isnt yogi makes it the topic
mighty valley
been a while since yogi's somehow related a +23 underrot to a custom doom level no one's heard of
lusty grotto
lmaooo i just realized the man boobs are sticking out
opaque quest
been a while since yogi's somehow related a +23 underrot to a custom doom level ...
Im waiting for the speak of the devil moment here
lusty tiger
@sick sentinel best doom monster?
opaque quest
sick sentinel
whatever the fuck it plays on, so anything
sick sentinel
retro = any crt 300x200/640x480/800x600 modern = modern lcd duh, pepega (on like, billboards and shit, well, nuff said)
sick sentinel
oh demons, fuck demons
mighty valley
let him cook
lusty tiger
sick sentinel
i just shoot every demon i see
lusty tiger
blazing condor
oh demons, fuck demons
😼
sick sentinel
there are no good demons tehre are only not annoying, annoying, bad and worse and then satan and then super satan
the only good demons are the ones that give ammo or are satisfying to kill
the is the only playlist you ever need for anything and everything doom
this dude will cover any and every topic you may have, including who made the music, levels, point out jank, etc
opaque quest
<@456226577798135808> best doom monster?
You monster what have you done
sick sentinel
im not friends with no bitches that can't survive in doom games
gotta have that dog in u
like i said though just now, he goes over any topic possible now or foture or psat you might have
lusty tiger
like i said though just now, he goes over any topic possible now or foture or ps...
Yogi when are we ripping a full sweep doom playthrough
sick sentinel
i don't want to hear about it basically lmao, u play doom, cool i play doom as well, u played that map? i didnt like that map it didnt have enough health pick ups
lusty tiger
🧑🍳
sick sentinel
i played it so much there is nothing for me to discuss, just some obscure player wads
sick sentinel
player wad is .wad is Where's All (the) Data
aka, the maps file compiled
player meaning its made by a player and not retail release
lusty tiger
Custom maps?
sick sentinel
ya
lusty tiger
I have 2016 or eternal I think
I remember liking the online play actually
And feeling some halo 3 nostalgia
sick sentinel
2016 is alot slower and hold W mash go on double barrel shotgun
lusty tiger
I think it was that
lusty tiger
I don’t have an Xbox anymore
Maybe my limited edition mw3 xbox360 is somewhere
But I do t plan on using it
opaque quest
opaque quest
Im 110% sure jeree is trolling
lusty grotto
opaque quest
lusty tiger
I won’t make use of that
fading tide
How high M+ can I push as 425 ilvl
lusty tiger
How high M+ can I push as 425 ilvl
Worst case scenario, +20s
lusty tiger
If you have a legit team you can go higher
opaque quest
It also depends on the week. Fortified is way way harder on us
lusty tiger
You will never be invited to a worthwhile pug though with that ilvl
fading tide
Damn I did a 13 a had a tough time 20
lusty tiger
?
My 413 war breezes though +17s
But rooach is right, this week is tough for tanks
lusty grotto
and/or you have a 300 ilvl shield which would be massiving inting
lusty tiger
Idk if a 13 even has all the affixes lol
grim pilot
it doesnt
lusty tiger
fading tide
You want to improve?
Absolutely I want to be good not trash. I’ll have to YouTube how to craft a log
lusty tiger
Absolutely I want to be good not trash. I’ll have to YouTube how to craft a log
There’s instructions around here
Lemme c
lusty tiger
Absolutely I want to be good not trash. I’ll have to YouTube how to craft a log
How do i log ?
So, if you have been here for a while, you may have noticed that whenever somebody ask for advice we ask them for a log, and if you’re new you might have no idea what that means or how to get one so :
🔸First, download Loggerhead (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/loggerhead) or ERT (https://www.curseforge.com/wow/addons/exorsus-raid-tools)
Once you have one of these any time you enter a zone where you might want a log (ie dungeon/raid/pvp) these addons will automatically start logging (in the case of ERT you have to activate automated logging in the options).
Alternatively if you don’t want to install an addon for it, whenever you are going to do an activity you want to log type /combatlog in chat to start logging said activity.
Remember to activate advanced logging in the options
All these options will store your logs in your wow file inside the retail folder and the log file.
🔸Second, go here (https://www.warcraftlogs.com/client/download) download the client. Select the live section of the client, select the upload a log button and select the fight you’re interested in putting up as a log and boom(kin) you’re done.
🔸Third, once you’ve done all this, your log is uploaded you can put it up here and we can look at it together to see if you’re doing something wrong.
Str >> haste > sim
blazing condor
new "how to read logs" video when @jagged pier
blissful iris
do yall tab target punish on a pack of mobs.. and is that gonna be the play for sure with our new tier set coming up?
lusty grotto
no
blazing condor
yrc
blissful iris
I had domoishi sushi bowl yep
lusty tiger
Yum
jagged pier
new "how to read logs" video when <@179993058186625025>
eh
opaque quest
Just did my first TW on monk with the offensive build
With TP and WoO
I dont hate it ngl
jagged pier
because hes a 3999 prot warrior
lusty tiger
Oh right
fading tide
My 413 war breezes though +17s
Teach me fam
lusty tiger
Log and everyone here will give you the best tips and strats
blazing condor
drink brew
opaque quest
Its just pop all CDs all the time isnt it
opaque quest
drink brew
Im a german. Pls specify. Ingame or irl or both
lusty grotto
yes
opaque quest
ok dope thanks for advice
fading tide
Will the logs show if you dying is your fault or the healers?
lusty grotto
logs will show everything
opaque quest
Will the log tell me why my dad didnt come back
lusty tiger
Will the logs tell me if she’s ever coming back?
lusty grotto
yes
blazing condor
Will the logs tell me if she’s ever coming back?
its all dependent on your CPM (cock per meter)
lusty tiger
O then yes
lusty grotto
jeree is a grower not a shower
lusty grotto
👍
lusty tiger
wat better: rice or noodles
pizza
toxic pewter
i cant lie.. at the end of the day pepperoni is just so good
lusty tiger
yup
toxic pewter
ya jalapenos so good too
lusty tiger
🤝
toxic pewter
you like pineapple
lavish sphinx
Pineapple on pizza is over hated
opaque quest
^this
opaque quest
idc what ppl say
Legion is BIS
Apart from rng legies but i got my bis first so i cant complain
Does HC Dawn still spit out sparks like nothing?
lusty tiger
yes
opaque quest
Neato. 376 already
4p in 1 hour lol
2 items from surge. 1 from rift 1 from TW chest. Game is hella fast now for alts
hardy snow
9% on sark today 
jagged pier
9% on sark today <:peepoHappy:673436349805625364>
just killed it
u got it buddeh
and u will beat me in dps
hardy mountain
i'm starting to gear my warrior right now...any suggestions on what two embellishments I should make for prot that could also work for arms?
opaque quest
Armor patch
jagged pier
2x shadow patch
hardy snow
and u will beat me in dps
Not if you make more on your rekill next week
hushed galleon
hey, new to prot war. i played a lot of guardian druid and i fould it useful to macro iron fur into thrash. is it the same idea with ignore pain and revenge/shield slam?
jagged pier
Not if you make more on your rekill next week <:okayge:917646812519739433>
i wont because im doing the outside phases
hardy snow
hey, new to prot war. i played a lot of guardian druid and i fould it useful to ...
You can macro ignore pain with shield slam, there is macro in pins
hardy snow
same
jagged pier
oof
lusty tiger
hey, new to prot war. i played a lot of guardian druid and i fould it useful to ...
not as your ss macro, but as your ignore pain macro
jagged pier
hey, new to prot war. i played a lot of guardian druid and i fould it useful to ...
no
hardy snow
DH
hardy snow
its our only DH in group, so he must play it, despite having geared BDK and monk
jagged pier
hardy snow
yea, my holy pala is great 
hardy snow
second isnt that bad, unless I charge back to boss right into hole XD
lusty grotto
hmm why are my runs not being qualified for BTM
deswind im coming for your ass
😄
potent anvil
lusty grotto
16 deaths LMAO
waxen frigate
hmm why are my runs not being qualified for BTM
it can take some time
also tell baconmumbles to go back to raid
and drop shit on grom
lusty grotto
no
potent anvil
Yeah they're probably gonna do a full scan later tonight
waxen frigate
according to someone who i think is r.io staff she said it can take a day or two
unless all 5 ppl live track it
hardy snow
yeah, I wasnt surprised that it wasnt on profile right after runs, but now its showing 2nd run only
lusty grotto
according to someone who i think is r.io staff she said it can take a day or two
bro bacon died because his pet broke as we were flying down to last boss and he got instantly dotted lmao
took 2 ticks, monk couldn't dispel in transit
waxen frigate
lol
lusty grotto
i had to laugh
potent anvil
Yeah, I dunno why it's tracking me three times
modern brook
according to someone who i think is r.io staff she said it can take a day or two
My aunt is r.io staff and she said something similar
potent anvil
Oh, I conceded. My warr not big enough to handle the high keys
lusty tiger
My aunt is r.io staff and she said something similar
🧢
lusty grotto
Oh, I conceded. My warr not big enough to handle the high keys
why u lyin
potent anvil
S3, I'll try 
warm plinth
Yeah, I dunno why it's tracking me three times <:keks:936231610850897992>
Triple the Deswind, triple the fun
jagged pier
Imagine 3 deswinds in a key the game would break
warm plinth
@potent anvil oh shit he asked for my discord name. We gonna see who this guy really is
potent anvil
jagged pier
Did we ever work out which of the top prots it was in your comments des?
potent anvil
Nope
jagged pier
blazing condor
maybe Kungen pog
warm plinth
Did we ever work out which of the top prots it was in your comments des?
I should be getting some logs today so we will unmask him
strong forum
<@95652243235143680> oh shit he asked for my discord name. We gonna see who thi...
hes gonna cyberhack you
i would just stop bothering
sense is stepping in to rescure it seems
warm plinth
What's he gonna hack
strong forum
im just talking shit, but i just wouldnt bother
strong forum
dont need many words when youre at the top of the food chain
blazing condor
is this the same dude from YT a few days ago?
warm plinth
Yes
blazing condor
:p
warm plinth
That's why i use so many fancy words. I'm overcompensating
blazing condor
alleged "free thinkers" when you dont want to follow the rotation
warm plinth
shut summit
potent anvil
urban bane
ya if you catch yourself thinking about it too much imagine sense slamming his shield into your head
brain empty press button
austere lava
waxen frigate
if i was top rated pwar i wouldnt need to use so many fancy words
im top rated pwar
ur trash
lusty tiger
urban portal
was this actually bad
the 2p isnt great but it cant be that bad
and 4p seems ok in AOE with thunderlord
if current patch ofc
lusty tiger
4pc is pog
like unnerving
on your demo
nothing got your blood juiced like popping unnerving last stand with banner
blissful iris
so I just had a pug try and tell me to tank the VP dragon wind while im forever downwind cause the breath is so hard for them to dodge and its killing them... they want me forever take the dot and -30% haste... like what bruh
blissful iris
i tried to tell them that
waxen frigate
so I just had a pug try and tell me to tank the VP dragon wind while im forever ...
What level vp wqs this
lusty tiger
ideally, you split the upwind side
tank on one edge, party on the other
aka dont tank on the party, but if party is positioned weird, then that's their own fault
blissful iris
it was a baby 14 for crest farm on my new warrior tank
blissful iris
and the aug that did less than healer damage even with his buffs is telling me to learn the fight LOL
lusty tiger
need buffs
blissful iris
that aug was underpowered for sure. damamge and brain power
lusty tiger
waxen frigate
it was a baby 14 for crest farm on my new warrior tank
pugs in 14s xdd
pallid quiver
14s-15s are the murder keys
Gets real rough on those streets
Probably harder to pug than most 22-24s
waxen frigate
For sure
lusty grotto
and the aug that did less than healer damage even with his buffs is telling me t...
i hope youre trolling
cause the rest of them think you are
urban portal
I hope he isn’t
warm plinth
I understood it to mean even when taking into account his buffs. Like the evoker predicted dps or log dps. Either way though, you should certainly beat the healer as an augvoker.
sacred flare
is brutal vitality still bad to use.
if i remember correctly it does not refresh your ip it just adds to the value of it
pallid quiver
if i remember correctly it does not refresh your ip it just adds to the value o...
That's how it's intended to work. The issue with Brutal Vit is that it stopped working when you reached a full absorb value until IP fully fell off. I believe that's been fixed, but if you're concerned, feel free to play FBV. Neither talent is massively beneficial to your survival atm
lusty grotto
lmaooooooo
im an hero and doesnt afraid of anything
he also carried the run so
well deserved lol
pallid quiver
I cam't believe Nim is feeding the Hunter menace
lusty grotto
id say he really REALLY deserved it lmao
i dont know how to bear yet
nimchippy only 429
kinda confused at what to do to start pulls if incarn is down
so ive been using rage of the sleeper to go in lol
waxen frigate
yogi actually a god gamer?
lusty grotto
indeed he is
opaque quest
Fake. His ingame name is XxXD00mXxX
jagged gust
so ive been using rage of the sleeper to go in lol
I don't think there's much of a trick to pull in 14s, usually you can just pull giant packs back to back cuz rage gen is insane and incarn is back up after like a minute and you're rolling 2 stacks of ironfur
jagged gust
packs probably going down too fast to really cash in on the big bear pulls
lusty grotto
yeah probably
feels too much like vdh going in without fiery brand lol
i upped one of the my crafted pieces and its 431 now at least
lusty grotto
i dont doubt it though i dont think i will push, im only using these alts to help my friends gear up theirs
jagged gust
Yeah fair enough, that's about all I do in m+ these days too lol
Just one more month 🤞
opaque quest
Just one more month 🤞
I have one friend i play wow with all the time. We are just trolling all the time. M+ is high time
warm plinth
@lusty grotto go in with rage, SI, or bark; try to pool enough rage for an ironfur at the end of the previous pull, and be generous and early with FR
lusty grotto
yeah figured
pallid quiver
Get bored enough, decide maybe I'll try and sneak a pug kill for Sark night before reset; maybe I'll get lucky
It's an unfortunate thing to have levelled other tanks, since now I can figure out just how few buttons some other tanks are pressing
tender cove
Mr offtopic again... Google gives such conflicting answers... "Reset this PC" -> Keep nothing....
Half the guides says it will only wipe and recreate partitions on C: drive...
The other half says it will wipe all drives...
Anyone know for a fact, maybe personal experince? 🙂
opaque quest
Mr offtopic again... Google gives such conflicting answers... "Reset this PC" ->...
Simple solution. Unplug the sata cable. Then reset. But also: Dont reset. Do a clean install or do nothing. Resetting is messy and produces more problems
tender cove
Simple solution. Unplug the sata cable. Then reset. But also: Dont reset. Do a c...
It's a laptop nvme drive. Its would be a hassle to remove/put it back
opaque quest
Welp. Just do a clean install. When you get asked do an advanced install and only format the drive you wanna kill
pallid quiver
Play BRM.
the other tank i played with was brew and i do have an alt brew
He was not pressing buttons
enough so that my 415 monk did more damage than his 431 monk
tender cove
Welp. Just do a clean install. When you get asked do an advanced install and onl...
Interesting way for an usb memory to die?!?!
It had half my life on it... This is great... Lost all the pictures I had on my mom
feel like killing myself
opaque quest
wtf how
tender cove
No idea. Its been stored inside a case with several silica bags to prevent moisture damage. I used it 2-3 months ago without any issues at all. Partition made "RAW", downloaded advanced program suite and didn't help and confirmed a lot of bad sectors... But it cant even be recovered, even with having master boot record intact.
opaque quest
No backup? Only 1 stick?
tender cove
No backup? Only 1 stick?
of course not, why would I apply decades of professionsal IT experince and knowhow to myself? That would be silly...
I bought a brand new 250 dollar corsair ssd memory. Its a poor excuse but yeh
I cant say anything
pallid quiver
backups are for cowards
tender cove
and got timeout for calling myself names lol
I have no real excuse to this... I know damn well you triple backup important stuff... But apparently I did that to "the important stuff".... Except not this...which was the important stuff in the end...
anything but the last fking memories of my mom
i just want to legit die
running 3 different recovery programs now... Praying to a god i know doesnt exists...but yeh... at least i can fake some hope for the moment until my xanax kicks in
tender cove
Does any1 know how testdisk works? Its completely CLI and I dont understand it.
I'll pay for your help if it leads to a succesful recovery.
dawn canyon
I cant say anything
Please contact a professional data recovery specialists rather than use free programs
cursive prawn
^
Especially because if you botch a recovery attempt on your own, you can potentially reduce further recovery chances
cursive prawn
😳
lucid pasture
Please contact a professional data recovery specialists rather than use free pro...
🤓
blazing condor
warm plinth
Who wants something fun
for the lulz
That's only half the lulz
This is the other half of the lulz
sweet summit
nice censor
sweet summit
nooo! you could've used discord remix to edit the already sent image!! (new feature) (really cool)!!!
warm plinth
wat
sweet summit
nvm it's locked behind nitro xd
warm plinth
I have nitro
sweet summit
idk how it works tbh
warm plinth
Oh apparently you can only do it on mobile?
vocal nimbus
Ptr notes saying SS deals 10000% more damage when?
pallid quiver
Never, but Warrior armor -50% is tomorrow
jagged pier
they joking
ionic fern
pale karma
Is it understood how the nerfs to embellishments in 10.2 will impact what's recommended? Are there new ones being introduced to consider or is shadowflame patch still expected to be strong?
jagged pier
apprently the helm is op on ptr so that and a shadow patch most likely
waxen frigate
LMAO
hardy snow
apprently the helm is op on ptr so that and a shadow patch most likely
You mean te pvp helm? I wonder whether they omited it on purpose or just forgot about it.
jagged pier
i dunno i know it just does a shield
🤷
apprently its procing alot
or a big shield or both
havent really paided attention focus was on killing sarc
toxic geyser
I have never gotten more fucked up on prot than with those fuckin basilisks in uldaman
toxic geyser
Even the initial chomp clapped me
pallid quiver
This is the other half of the lulz
Also, I raise you:
one of my cotanks today
also
probably my best cotank today
pallid quiver
that's fine, that's whatever
I'm more concerned about the crackling thunder pickup
toxic geyser
well all 4 block talents isnt fine
No no, let him cook
jagged pier
not having vigor is monka
pallid quiver
jakey he doesn't even have rend
toxic geyser
I too like pushing Shield block ONCE
jagged pier
i was going through the rest of it
median tulip
It's a bit overkill, but it's not actually terrible
median tulip
Not having Rend IS terrible
jagged pier
did u ask him where he got his talent build from?
toxic geyser
Walmart
pallid quiver
no this was about 6 seconds after he got summoned and about 4 seconds before pull
median tulip
What were you fighting?
pallid quiver
Echo
jagged pier
thats most pug tanks tbh
pallid quiver
i'll take that in a pug group
sick sentinel
Also, I raise you:
oh my
toxic geyser
Yogi rates it
pallid quiver
I had someone on Rashok so desperately crave aggro that when I taunted Rashok off him to force Rashok to the center
he taunted back
and wiped the group
Also, the usual threat issues I have of getting angry whispers "OMG STOP TAUNTING"
median tulip
he taunted back
Hey, at least he pushed his buttons /s
pallid quiver
boss i don't even press taunt for the tank swaps, i need you to press buttons
pallid quiver
Hey, at least he pushed his buttons /s
oh yeah he loved that button but none of the others
toxic geyser
Been playing too much classic
median tulip
So many tanks don't actually understand taunt
pallid quiver
a lot of tanks don't have any awareness as a sapient being
one guy literally walked echo into the next area we were moving into and dropped the fissure on everyone's face
then legit went
median tulip
a lot of tanks don't have any awareness as a sapient being
True, but... have you met the average DPS player?
pallid quiver
"what happened?
-_-?"
I think raid tanks are less aware than your average DPS
Your average DPS is dumb,
but they are sentient beings
I'm pretty sure most raid tanks are more akin to a sponge or something
median tulip
The only difference is that most DPS can only kil themselves; Raid Tanks can kill everyone
toxic geyser
does the tier 31 set kinda blast? I saw it was obscene dam prior to the 60% nerf
waxen frigate
@sick sentinel what are your thoughts on the doom sequels and their influence vs the original
jagged pier
sick sentinel
very simple, avoid/disregard games that are not doom 1 2 2016 or eternal
or approach them with caution
jagged pier
sick sentinel
doom 3 is very mid/mixed tnt evilution and plutonia are mythic go fuck your self raids
waxen frigate
Can you elaborate
sick sentinel
64 is bizzare
toxic geyser
You guys seen the video essay about the existenial dread custom map someone made in OG doom to pay tribute to his dead friend?
sick sentinel
other than that just don't play it on shitty hardware like a 3do or jaguar or one of those
go watch civvie review if u dont know enough about doom
demons bad, rockets and shot gun and chain gun and bfg = good
toxic geyser
You guys seen the video essay about the existenial dread custom map someone made...
https://youtu.be/5wAo54DHDY0?si=U5vuzp71ylZZXeIL if have a spare 102 minutes
sick sentinel
moon man doom (search in private first)
with headphones
nsfw/job
brutal doom is hit and miss with people if you like it you do and you dont you dont, its like eternal everythings fast
last mason
how are the new dungeons in terms of deadly bleeds/magic effects
cinder nova
I recall WCM being a miserable shit show
But I also hate the everloving fuck out of BFA dungeons
fading tide
What level M+ do I need to tank to get a GF? My highest is +13
cinder nova
Especially trash-heavy, cramped, nonlinear paths.
cinder nova
What level M+ do I need to tank to get a GF? My highest is +13
3K+, my gf played 3k as hpriest
jagged pier
okay stop flexing
cinder nova
Wait what how is that a flex
strong forum
What level M+ do I need to tank to get a GF? My highest is +13
Only comes with winning tgp or mdi
cinder nova
okay stop flexing
Actual question, what's the easiest way to 3K? I'm of the mind a full track of 22s and... what, two 23s?
uneven mason
Only comes with winning tgp or mdi
Shit, no wonder warriors are always so angry
jagged pier
because the game is dead
cinder nova
And it's almost always off meta for at least 3/5 slots
cinder nova
Lol hey, better late than never.
With how low pop warrior is, I'm always side-eyeing my world rank like it's lying to me.
jagged pier
low
waxen frigate
stopped at portals
I did the same and then I came back after not playing all summer and saw the absolute state of 2.7k players
jagged pier
but its going to go up cause streamers are saying its the best tank again even tho the lggo isnt on ptr so u cant test bdk correctly
but lets just make blanket statements without enough research again
jagged pier
I did the same and then I came back after not playing all summer and saw the abs...
yer its bad
waxen frigate
Now I’m like 3100 desperately trying to distance myself from the shitters
jagged pier
but lets not forget ive been 2.7k since like week 5 or somthing dumb
cinder nova
Now I’m like 3100 desperately trying to distance myself from the shitters
This. Falling behind the season start io curve feels like you get left with the shitters
uneven mason
but lets just make blanket statements without enough research again
Professional streamer mentality
cinder nova
And then clawing your way out is herculean
plush tendon
but its going to go up cause streamers are saying its the best tank again even t...
the real battle for S3; Lego Tank Vs. Rework Tank
my money is on rework tank personally
hardy snow
but its going to go up cause streamers are saying its the best tank again even t...
they will be surprised if this lego will be just like 8-9k dps increase and thats all
plush tendon
thats kind of what Im thinking; its not gonna be some game breaking thing like what Gavel was
prob a stat proc or a cleave/dot effect
hardy snow
gavel wasnt the reason bdk was strongest in S3
plush tendon
well, im not talking about Gavel+BDK; but Gavel by itself was a pretty busted wep
hardy snow
prob a stat proc or a cleave/dot effect
I guess some shadowflame shit
plush tendon
for everyone
hardy snow
oh right, it was strong
last mason
and evoker leg now doesnt make dev or pres that good
plush tendon
just made BDK even better they could use it plus their OP tier set
hardy snow
I really liked it on my guardian druid that was my main back then
Incarn+venthyr shit+gavel on pull and good luck to my co-tank with holding agro
plush tendon
Cocaine Bear!
lusty grotto
morning everyone
rain ivy
Hi, okay, noob question, haven't played Prot Warrior in like 3 expansions and I'm just getting back into it—
when the various guides and such say Devastator is required, how strict is that? 'cause I HATE having downtime in a rotation, and it just feels weird not having a filler button
hardy snow
Hi, okay, noob question, haven't played Prot Warrior in like 3 expansions and I'...
currently we have good rage gen so revenge is our main filler
lusty grotto
Hi, okay, noob question, haven't played Prot Warrior in like 3 expansions and I'...
required
jagged pier
u have no filler button because u dont need it
because the spec is so fast
if u find u do
u have done somthing wrong
this is at max lvl tho
hardy snow
unless you mess up rotation, spend too much on IP or have like 2,3% of haste, you shouldnt need such filler
cerulean tusk
As required as before, with enough haste you spam other stuff
jagged pier
before max level eh youll have it
rain ivy
Gotcha, okay. So, play what's comfy for now, and once I hit max level and start getting some haste I'm gonna find I don't miss having Devastate on my bar
hardy snow
yea, during lvling is way different experience
lusty grotto
i would recommend not getting used to it
jagged pier
^
lusty grotto
so play without it regardless
jagged pier
just put SS on your devastate bind and just press that during downtime
it will do the same thing
waxen frigate
Hi, okay, noob question, haven't played Prot Warrior in like 3 expansions and I'...
You don’t have downtime
If you didn’t play with devastator you wouldn’t be able to press devastate with how fast prot is
hardy snow
You don’t have downtime
oh you do during lvling, when I was lvling alts for heritage achievements I did warrior twice, and couldnt stand how fked up it is compared to main at max lvl
but it gets way better after having proper amount of haste and all cool talents
waxen frigate
Yea I just mean at max level
Leveling nowadays is so fast that like
There’s no real point in giving guidance for it specifically imo
Other than just push through so you can actually learn at max
lusty grotto
yeah
cerulean tusk
1-70 is what 2 hours now with time walking?
rain ivy
lol it's pretty fast, for sure
I always enjoyed leveling a bit slower and watching a class build on itself and whatnot, but my new Warr is just about level 50 now and I'm about ready to just put on a playlist and timewalk to 70
left basalt
lusty grotto
gz
lusty grotto
I always enjoyed leveling a bit slower and watching a class build on itself and ...
all the more reason NOT to get used to abilities we dont use
plush tendon
<a:LETSGOOO:770741530805796874>
I have 3 of those... too bad the one toon I want it on (DK) still has a 441 version
I hate this game
lusty grotto
i have none lol
plush tendon
damn, Ion really hates you
rain ivy
all the more reason NOT to get used to abilities we dont use
I mean, this isn't a bad point. Just because leveling is super low-stakes doesn't mean it's a good idea to develop bad habits
plush tendon
as we all know, if you dont get the loot you want, its Ion's fault
lusty grotto
me neither lol
lusty grotto
but again i never got the Nok weap either on s1
jagged pier
i tried for long enough
lusty grotto
err strike twice
left basalt
still no 447 forgestorm C:
first vault week, i got a 441 forgestorm, and then when they did the ilvl revert i could convert to 447
jagged pier
good for u
opaque quest
Offtopic: Brew crit for dps vers for surv?
waxen frigate
Depends
Crit is our best stat period (imo)
It gives offensive and defensive value
Vers is good against all damage types and is good Dps as well
Mastery is a bit less damage than vers but is extremely good against dodgeable attacks.
Against non-dodgeable attacks it’s not very good
Haste is a dump stat
lusty grotto
lusty grotto
thank god my brew is perma lvl 35
has mage tower appearance tho
😄
maybe 1 day
same as Deathchip
opaque quest
Wheres your CM set
opaque quest
lusty grotto
how dare you nish
opaque quest
I crafted engi bracers with crit and thought i fucked up
lusty grotto
imposter
waxen frigate
I crafted engi bracers with crit and thought i fucked up
Nah
Most likely we’re gonna be 50% or more crit next tier
Shadowlands s3/4 were the same way
waxen frigate
I’d have 75-80% crit during s4 dungeons bc of the affix
opaque quest
I want that dreadlord affix back. I liked perma bloodlust
lusty grotto
ye
opaque quest
Ye it did
lusty grotto
Wheres your CM set
i just read the name, so good
hollow token
question for folks testing on PTR - I understand there's a lot of magic damage next tier... how did mitigation/survivability feel at the higher end in that regard?
lusty grotto
ask in 1 month
real fossil
where does the 2set change/bugfix put us in the damage standing relative to other tanks in raid and separately m+? This change is like a 10% damage improvement right?
real fossil
thats what it does, not its impact
it can crit and absorb the full damage amount does not talk about general damage profiles
lusty grotto
you didnt ask about its impact, you asked for a comparison
real fossil
how does my question get answered by the pins
real fossil
so is it like a 10% damage buff overall?
real fossil
TR is that much of our single target damage?
real fossil
feels like information is being obscured to protect against a nerf lmao
ionic fern
?
strong forum
where does the 2set change/bugfix put us in the damage standing relative to othe...
cant be truthfully answered as half the tanks are still bugged
lusty grotto
the fuck
lusty grotto
its fine we'll be 6th cause were just protecting against a nerf LMAO
real fossil
and we have a better standing in aoe
strong forum
no
lusty grotto
what a dumbshit comment
strong forum
we've got one of the lowest aoe dps
real fossil
its fine we'll be 6th cause were just protecting against a nerf LMAO
man this was my entire question, if the bugfix helps the worry about our damage relative to other tanks and you just kept saying it crits lul
real fossil
thats a bummer! but good the 2piece isnt bad game design
lusty grotto
apparently you missed the entire point where it absolutely DID NOT crit before this hotfix
even on its first iteration
real fossil
if our overall damage profile is low, its a moot point if one ability crits or does not crit, and it has no implication to gameplay
rich wyvern
I think he got that - from what I’m reading he’s not asking about the functionality specs but just “how we lookin after that”
real fossil
your actions would not change with or without the ability to crit, its useless information you are hung up on
opaque quest
i just read the name, so good
lusty grotto
we're protecting against a nerf, thats how
hollow token
ask in 1 month
i'm not being sarcastic when i ask this... but why ask in a month? Do we not have enough info from testing PTR to give a general feel on this yet?
lusty grotto
cause not everything has been tested
and a lot is subject to change
its ptr after all
real fossil
we're protecting against a nerf, thats how
im an optimist!
lusty grotto
if youre asking specifically for keys, thats another point
strong forum
but also, alot of the data presented from PTR that we can look into is also faulty
lusty grotto
but you didnt specify
hardy snow
i'm not being sarcastic when i ask this... but why ask in a month? Do we not hav...
PTR is still going, there will be lots of bugfixes and tuning
strong forum
because most of the logs provided are just from players who arent all that good
from what ive seen
so that doesnt really help
rich wyvern
because most of the logs provided are just from players who arent all that good
Good, maybe that’ll protect against a nerf 💀
strong forum
- PTR lag affecting some people more than others
opaque quest
Because they are tanks and not dps smh
hardy snow
who do less than healer dmg
hollow token
but you didnt specify
so for argument's sake, if i had specified specifically related to M+, would your answer change?
jagged pier
i mean there are tank logs out there
rich wyvern
<:dandy:809705852658253844>
Tbf disc dps is kinda insane after rework
strong forum
yeah less than s1 dmg
real fossil
i mean hasn't warrior had a wider variability in damage compared to other tanks too, skill ceiling is higher than mashing thrash
rich wyvern
Less than a level 67 bm hunter damage
strong forum
i mean hasn't warrior had a wider variability in damage compared to other tanks ...
well that applies to every tank
a good bear will absolutely SHIT on a mediocre bear on ST
opaque quest
i mean hasn't warrior had a wider variability in damage compared to other tanks ...
Na. Prot warr is turbo ez. Compared to other tanks
But yes. Ofc a better player deals more deepz
strong forum
but all that smack talk aside
even then, from what ive seen
pwar dmg is on the lowest end of the spectrum dmg wise
in m+
real fossil
but at least the 2 piece can crit!
strong forum
2pc atleast isnt a dmg loss anymore
ye
prior to last build
2pc was a massive dmg loss
rich wyvern
Wasn’t the burst from 4pc dumb or something? IIRC it was giving something wild like 200k hits
real fossil
cant wait for the inevitable 3% global buff to still be underperforming
toxic pewter
this gonna be a bdk patch
rich wyvern
Maybe I’m just pullin that number out my ass
strong forum
idk whats in store and what blizzard thinks
hollow token
PTR is still going, there will be lots of bugfixes and tuning
yes, i understand that well enough... my question was based on what we're seeing now
strong forum
Wasn’t the burst from 4pc dumb or something? IIRC it was giving something wild l...
current 4pc dmg is obscene in aoe when its up ye
real fossil
2pc was a massive dmg loss
yeah at least from a game design perspective its good and now its a tuning problem
rich wyvern
this gonna be a bdk patch
Can’t wait for my guilds resident bdk to rip a bong hit, wraith walk off the platform in raid and wipe us
strong forum
but its not 200k crit, its like 50k crits
toxic pewter
i hate bdk meta patches myself ill prob just not play this patch as much anyway
strong forum
theres only 2 ways for BDK to be meta
absolutely disgustingly broken offensively
or absolutely disgustingly broken defensively
strong forum
because they bring absolutely nothing to the group
lusty grotto
so for argument's sake, if i had specified specifically related to M+, would you...
doesnt seem too different from this season
rich wyvern
or absolutely disgustingly broken defensively
I remember the “can solo nathria” days
strong forum
well
in raid BDK is always broken
cuz the raids arent designed around high af dmg intake to levels where BDK gets 1shot
rich wyvern
Tru
toxic pewter
they should of made the leggo a polearm at least can let 2 other tanks play with it
except str/agi is weird i guess
rich wyvern
Biggest spikes in intentional damage taken will always be on big m+ pulls
rich wyvern
they should of made the leggo a polearm at least can let 2 other tanks play with...
Just run fury loot spec
toxic pewter
i mean im def gonna work to get the legendary dont get me wrong
rich wyvern
Take it from the blood DKs
opaque quest
Priest pumping in 14 VP
toxic pewter
just annoying only 1 tank can use it
rich wyvern
Priest pumping in 14 VP
That Hpala needs to plug in his keyboard
rich wyvern
just annoying only 1 tank can use it
If it makes you feel any better - 0 healers can use it iirc
lusty grotto
calm down
opaque quest
Pala and me are only 410
strong forum
nerf monk or
toxic pewter
blizz needs to let us use 2h weapons in prot
opaque quest
God yes
plush tendon
because they bring absolutely nothing to the group
BDK is the epitome of 'get in my backpack and shut up'
opaque quest
waxen frigate
because they bring absolutely nothing to the group
They bring complete independence and grips
More than brew brings imo
Unless it’s a physical Dps meta
strong forum
brew brings healing taken and avoidance
lusty grotto
lmao
strong forum
or was it leech
lusty grotto
mystic touching is good enough 🙂
lusty tiger
dk brings being a bd chad
plush tendon
brew also has detox and tiger's lust
waxen frigate
But also you have to give up quite a bit in keys to get both
Usually I only run healing taken
lusty tiger
brew doesnt have ams so it's basically useless
lusty grotto
yeah but TL is only used on them anyway lmao
plush tendon
you can use TL on someone else though
lusty grotto
right but
its still being used on them anyway
monk needs a double TL talent like paladins have now
plush tendon
cant you use it on those barrels on 2nd boss FH?
lusty grotto
you can
waxen frigate
Yes but you can’t precast it
waxen frigate
Also BDK clearly doesn’t need that much in order to be played a lot given they’re the second most played tank in 25+ keys currently
plush tendon
regardless, it can used on someone else if necessarry
plush tendon
Also BDK clearly doesn’t need that much in order to be played a lot given they’r...
cause BDK is awesome
waxen frigate
I think the absolute biggest benefit BDK brings is that you just do not have to worry about them as a Dps or healer
You don’t need to focus as much on kicking and stopping tank related stuff
Or healing them
Because they just eat it all
And then death strike
rich wyvern
Yeah it’s a bit of a “take me off your frames, I do more damage if you don’t heal me” spec for healers
plush tendon
All tanks require pretty similar external HPS; its sort of a wrong take to think that blood just doesnt need a healer
waxen frigate
Brew meanwhile needs constant healer attention
waxen frigate
All tanks require pretty similar external HPS; its sort of a wrong take to think...
That’s not really true
lusty tiger
Brew meanwhile needs constant healer attention
just a dps w a fancy rotation
waxen frigate
Blood and brew need to be healed in very different ways
If a brew isn’t being constantly healed, they can’t heal themselves as much via celestial fortune
lusty tiger
they need their orbs
waxen frigate
Well that’s not what I’m referring to
rich wyvern
Bdks can often just chill with 0 healer input for an entire dungeon if they’re managing their runic power properly
waxen frigate
28v29 FH ehrps
chilly brook
Blood needs external healing
rich wyvern
I guess what I mean is “no special attention from the healer” - if they’re using aoe heals then the tank will just get passively topped up ofc
chilly brook
It’s just not noticed
waxen frigate
Blood needs external healing
It does not need anywhere near as much as brew
chilly brook
It does not need anywhere near as much as brew
Agreed
waxen frigate
Random mythic rashok from a few weeks ago
chilly brook
But historically whenever people are like “blood doesn’t need healing” it’s been wrong
waxen frigate
No but to say EHRPS is equal amongst all tanks is completely wrong
chilly brook
Granted this xpac has certainly returned it to pretty close to legion levels of self sustain
chilly brook
No but to say EHRPS is equal amongst all tanks is completely wrong
Well yeah, that’s a silly statement
lusty tiger
nice 10 dps
opaque quest
lusty tiger
lol
strong forum
brew op
waxen frigate
Most fun tank. Im no longer complaining about 30 buttons
I hit 150k log Dps the other day
Which is a first for me I think