#protection
waxen frigate
45.32% of my damage that kill (99 parse) was borrowed power
strong forum
smile
fading tide
What’s a good IP number? 150k?
strong forum
super engaging gameplay
waxen frigate
double frozen devo kinda cranked
waxen frigate
the talent right under it is also vital
blood and thunder i think
it makes it so thunderclap applies rend to targets it hits
so you never actually use rend but you get all the benefits
weary forge
but i already need rend on a target no?
waxen frigate
no
weary forge
ahh thats sick
weary forge
no nneed to bind rend then
waxen frigate
rend doesnt even go on ur bars
unless you're arms
in which case you use it in the opener and then never again
weary forge
ty ty
lusty tiger
@blazing condor https://youtu.be/7Yk0XmPXS9g?si=OhU7Z7PeXUD2OGxn
balmy canyon
Anyone else get irritated that when we asked for shockwave we got this but then DH has 7 stops
lusty grotto
<@186864948343865344> https://youtu.be/7Yk0XmPXS9g?si=OhU7Z7PeXUD2OGxn
fall of troy is dope
balmy canyon
i dunno we have 5
Not talking about ST stops, DH has two charges of chains, two charges of silence, two charges of fear and we have a single fear and sometimes shockwave which isn't easy to get
grim pilot
well, prot should always take shockwave - issue is dps war
lusty tiger
fall of troy is dope
🎸
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY me if i start a rogue in hard core
ill be all paranoid sitting in stealth all game, roach out at slightest change in wind
lusty tiger
my coworker always plays this song in the office
high aspen
waxen frigate
also on brew at the time they benefitted from weapons of order
i had some pulls where they did 11-12k
toxic pewter
Have they announced 10.2 release date yet
pallid quiver
inb4 they pull a sega saturn or whichever console it was where they just go up on stage and go, "by the way, it's available... Now"
though it won't flop nearly as hard as that did
weary forge
what main weak aura paks do you guys use?
pallid quiver
If you can spare the time and effort for it, making your own weak aura stuff is a nice way to help think about what you're doing with your rotation, though it does require you to have the baseline knowledge of what you even want to track
strong forum
eh
i made 2 new packs from scratch this week about 2 specs ive not played since wrath
takes a bit of tinkering but you rather quickly find out what you want to track
pallid quiver
You also have a lot better game knowledge than most, I wager
strong forum
i guess
pallid quiver
because i can list more than a few pugs who definitely weren't tracking things they should have
dk why did you just blow all of your runic power, war, where's SB, let alone CDs
strong forum
oh yeah i had a few tanks this week
who had fuckall uptime on their main mitigation
and an amount of DKs more than 0 who i actually had to heal
potent anvil
People are starting a war on my only prot warr vid
I dunno how to play prot warr, guess I'm back to DK
strong forum
fun
pallid quiver
I glanced at that, saw "there is DPS loss when a you use a SS"
potent anvil
warm plinth
Permission to go tear that guy apart.
potent anvil
Sure, idc. I'm just reading the thread at this point
pallid quiver
life is pain when you've been up for 24 hours
potent anvil
My warr isn't even 3k io 
strong forum
i think hes talking about you deswind
pallid quiver
and an amount of DKs more than 0 who i actually had to heal
also this
Like damn, I don't understand, and I'm bad at BDK
potent anvil
i think hes talking about you deswind
I know
potent anvil
Oh, well he didn't respond to the guy so I dunno
warm plinth
I will do it when I get to work so I can type faster
potent anvil
I imagine nothing really changed on how prot warr was played since s1. And I did s1 keys as prot warr. Kinda just plays the same?
strong forum
Oh, well he didn't respond to the guy so I dunno
you literally did r1 log dmg in this dungeon
but hey
youtube comments know better
🙂
potent anvil
Yeah, I'm retired and old. Can't do 26/27s
I'm trying to grasp enhancement shaman though. This spec kinda wild
Never played it
strong forum
is fairly simple imo
unless im missing something
ST build sucks
cuz its just casino SS spam
maybe im also playing entirely wrong, could also be
potent anvil
I'm playing the elementalist build or w/e
strong forum
get 10 maelstrom -> CL -> ice strike -> frost shock -> 10 maelstrom
pallid quiver
I didn't think it was like the hardest thing to pick up, but it's got a lot things you can do/press
potent anvil
I also keep forgetting to bring my WFT to me as we move pack to pack
pallid quiver
hardest thing is ST reacting to hot hands fast enough to not miss a cast, but my reactions are shit
strong forum
yea that defo needs a weakaura
strong forum
I didn't think it was like the hardest thing to pick up, but it's got a lot thin...
ye its alot of different combo buttons
jagged gust
My warr isn't even 3k io <:keks:936231610850897992>
It's replying to the OP who doesn't know their rotation saying they're pugging 27s, which idk for sure but I'm guessing that's well into 3k at that point
strong forum
27s is almost 3.6k
strong forum
all 28s is 3.6k
so like either this dude is a massive pain to heal, or hes just straight up lying
jagged gust
So basically the guy is saying he's in the top .1% and doesn't know his own class lmao
yeah, flame away
jagged gust
Actually you're right, youtube arguments are literal brainrot
toxic pewter
Most of the greater population have zero clue how to play prot warr
torn gulch
the guy is almost title range and does not know his rotation holy smokes?
toxic pewter
But they gotta chime in
torn gulch
what a tool
warm plinth
He lost me at "save rage" tbh
strong forum
its what he claims*
and people are clearly known
for being truthful on the internet
torn gulch
yea there is no way he's there
warm plinth
True. Abraham Lincoln said so
potent anvil
I healed this prot warr in a FH 20 pug on my hpal.
Almost could have done more damage.
potent anvil
Definitely had to put heals into him for sure
strong forum
#worth
torn gulch
is that all buffs? where is shield block
toxic pewter
Prot warr one of the most misunderstood and misplayed specs in the game
jagged gust
Most of the greater population have zero clue how to play prot warr
Literally any class, I got downvoted on wownoobs for helping a guy with his execute rotation in arms 😦
toxic pewter
Something different about prot warr though
toxic pewter
Like no one has a clue how all our abilities work
jagged gust
True, when I first started I think Nomer actually helped correct like 90% of the things I "learned"
warm plinth
Do you know how many times we've blown someone's mind in here by telling them that heroic leap resets taunt CD?
jagged gust
This one guide told me to pop shield wall when I had "Natural downtime on my shield block"
toxic pewter
Some guy on twitch said thunderclap is the main rage generator to me the other day
jagged gust
When half a dozen talents have the same keyword you'd think it'd start your brain ticking
jagged gust
though tbf when I started I probably didn't read my talents until like a month later 😬
strong forum
in pre-patch and early s1
because its "only single target"
was staggering
and the amount of builds who played bloodborne because "bleeds are 40% of my damage"
hint, its nowhere near that
toxic pewter
Lol
jagged gust
Without doing any math or ever looking at your logs it does sound like a nice talent
strong forum
and thats the crux
it doesnt take much to actually check and see
how bad of a talent it is
but even that alot of people dont do
jagged gust
Thats why I love forums like this, there's always someone smarter/more talented/simply cares more than you do who's gonna figure that stuff out to help the rest of us
warm plinth
I often wonder where people put me in the helpfulness scale
jagged gust
I didn't realize it got even better
jagged gust
I often wonder where people put me in the helpfulness scale
You're in my bad books, Barbaric Training is bae
warm plinth
Yeah that was my favorite comment
Using a rage generator makes it so you don't have rage for a rage spender
strong forum
maybe hes playing private servers
sick sentinel
those get boring fast
waxen frigate
I healed this prot warr in a FH 20 pug on my hpal.
Almost could have done more d...
Nah bro he was cranking spamming revenge
56k poggers
tender cove
Anyone good with networking/security? I need halp
tender cove
Been having major major issue with my laptop the past week, i'm at the "reset this pc" step already before i noticed this randomly while signing in to a torrent site. And it would explain a fuckton of my issue... And i was cisco certified like 15-20 years ago so I basically know nothing any more lol
what is that? My traffic is routed trough a proxy and looked at?
warm plinth
those get boring fast
I agree
lavish sphinx
Do you guys find the 'Play like the Pros' routes on raider io aren't actually that good? Or am I just not pro enough?
tender cove
Or wait.. Is this only the torrent site that has country blocked mexico as a whole?
strong forum
Do you guys find the 'Play like the Pros' routes on raider io aren't actually th...
they look pretty standard to me?
lavish sphinx
I think I'm just not pro enough then
lavish sphinx
Too big
warm plinth
What level keys are you doing?
lavish sphinx
So I pulled the Nelth one for a +22
warm plinth
22 is not pro enough for those routes
strong forum
neltharus or neltharions lair
strong forum
Neltharus requires chains coordination
warm plinth
Yes it is misleading
strong forum
and those routes are defo not needed in +22
warm plinth
I still have trouble getting people to even use the chains in 22s lol
strong forum
ye
warm plinth
I would probably have labeled those like 25 and higher tbh
lavish sphinx
I've just thrown this together - any suggested changes or fine?
warm plinth
If you think your group is capable of doing chains then you can combine 6 and 7 and 9 and 10
warm plinth
Right
lavish sphinx
That's me accounting for error
warm plinth
Otherwise it looks pretty standard to me
I personally do more on the first chain pull because I skip the last pack of the dungeon
These are in my first chain pull as well
lavish sphinx
Is it possible to slip between the pack of 3 and the stairs mob at the end?
warm plinth
Yes
You go directly toward the bags on the ground
I've not had even pugs screw it up yet
potent anvil
Yeah, its better to just get more count with chains since it's free. And skipping last pack before final boss its nice.
Well I say free, then people die on high fort because of the bleeds 
warm plinth
I personally love the people who try to pretend like their damage matters on chain pulls
And then die because they got hit by a mechanic they wouldn't have been hit by if they'd just stood by the damn chain
potent anvil
Yeah, I had to do all sorts of healing as hpal because some dps just follow the tank instead of just standing back. At least having bop and bubble+sac is nice. Hit AM for safety
warm plinth
Yeah had so many dps die because everyone else ran to the chain and that guy gets absolutely plastered by three hunters jumping on him
Blasted* dumb phone
potent anvil
I need to gear my monk and priest for healing. Dunno which healer would be good in 10.2. I only play hpal
warm plinth
Monk seems very...busy to me
I just leveled a mistweaver in timewalking and I still feel like I don't quite get it
It's like playing brewmaster as a healer XD
potent anvil
Yeah, I haven't played mine for a bit. Just got it to 70 and did a low key, but got carried
warm plinth
There just seems to be a ton of shit to track.
potent anvil
Disc seems kinda fun at least imo
warm plinth
I enjoy disc
Having radiance do actual healing on the initial hit is really nice for QoL
Makes you feel less helpless if you fuck up and don't prep something as well as you should have lol
potent anvil
Man... retiring from mythic raiding, and now I can just enjoy playing specs/roles I never tried before
warm plinth
Yeah it's nice getting to just play shit because you want to play it
potent anvil
Prot warr 10.2 meta 🙏
Although I have all plate classes ready for tanks. Guess I can get brewmaster gear too. Haven't leveled my druid or dh for tanking, yet.
warm plinth
I don't like dh at all currently. Guess we see how it plays out in 10.2
I did just level one and I like that the soul fragments have a long range and spawn further away now
Happy to see fodder is going away
warm plinth
Well it can only be better from there haha
Rng Fiesta in bfa
Hope your twilight Dev procs or your dps are peeling
Our tank in bfa was vdh and he outdpsed the entire group on that rock boss in motherlode because his twilight dev popped the fuck off
sick sentinel
Even the AI knows the art of the zug
quiet monolith
Hoping brew is solid but warrior is my second choice
Both look good so far
Brew/pally/war all look solid
bleak breach
For next tier?
I think raid wise it will be War/DK top. VDH and Brew a bit lower then Pally/bear
But who knows
quiet monolith
I don't really care about raid just m+
lavish sphinx
Dorki released a video saying that he’s got all the Plate wearers at the top then VDH and Brew then Bear
He said VDH still had a big to be fixed on PTR though
Bug*
bleak breach
Pally always pretty good in M+ because of avengers shield and some major utility they have.
Prot warrior should be pretty good with the recent changes to the tier too.
daring marlin
Pally always pretty good in M+ because of avengers shield and some major utility...
hpal being meta makes ppal redundant tbh
warm latch
in a 25 vp should prot warriors be using ignore pain?
warm plinth
In a +2 vp, prot war should be using ignore pain
Key level doesn't change our rotation
warm latch
i assumed so 0:
warm plinth
It's a rage dump and we generate tons of rage, so not using it means you're playing poorly
sick sentinel
ignore pain is our answer to dmg in general but i would say slightly mpre useful for magic dmg, like youduse it like normal, but more or possibly over / on par prio of sb cast
sick sentinel
ya, 30% or whatever on ss too,
all im saying is if i have sb buff, and sb charge, but im about to take fire dmg id use rage on ip before sb
I dont always phrasethings 100% properly, buti am trying to be objective and fact based and not leave parts out. end of day im just human
lusty grotto
its up always as part of our prio
its not a "you have to have it up", its a "you will have it up if youre playing correctly"
lavish sphinx
Timed a +22 Underrot with like 15 deaths somehow
DPS dying to almost all avoidable dmg but when they were up the dmg was good
lavish sphinx
I’ve had 18s-20s where 10+ deaths is a no time
waxen frigate
well yea bc people do shit damage
urban portal
world if everyone downloaded hekili
sick sentinel
Devastate is a button unless you take the talent that turns it into an auto-attack proc
yeah, prot already has enough buttons to press
inland raft
Make it baseline already so dont have that lingering fear that someday theyll decide to make us have to press it again
lusty tiger
Until they make said passive a button again
potent anvil
My YT comment thread is going wild. 
warm plinth
My YT comment thread is going wild. <:critcake:984549832511344640>
This dude was so mad about my reply that he had to reply like three times to my one comment
lusty grotto
what did i miss
potent anvil
YT comments on my only prot warr vid
warm plinth
Some dumbass criticizing Des's play in his underrot video
lusty grotto
o
warm plinth
Telling him to revenge more and not to press SS because he can't cast as many revenges if he does
lusty grotto
lol
warm plinth
He also said you shouldn't press ignore pain until you're at 50% hp
And that healers should just use their gcds to heal you instead
He's also claiming to have done 150k dps in BH when that's literally the highest active dps of any log for pwar I'm BH. And then he backpedaled saying it was with an Aug
lusty grotto
bro
i was about to say
its the fotm rerollers dusting off their other tanks
cause they think raze = revenge for some reason
you know its a bear player because their logs will have an obscene number of revenges for no reason at all
warm plinth
Nah we just don't know what we're talking about
lusty grotto
evokechip is now 438 so i figured i gear this one
warm plinth
Yeah I'm working on evoker rn. My bear is like 443 or 444
Been leveling this week and last though
Gotta finally get these 70s done
I still wanna try to do a key on every one of them one week
Just take a week off work and go ham lol
bleak breach
Maybe I need to play an easier tank
Sounds like people telling me to revenge more in here 😜
lusty grotto
should be no one
potent anvil
I couldn't hit 150k like the commenter. I suck.
ionic fern
I couldn't hit 150k like the commenter. I suck.
What key is this tho, FH?
potent anvil
FH 22, yeah
ionic fern
potent anvil
Did you see the comment thread on one of my vods? The one guy said he does 150k overall. Spams tclap and revenge, and only IPs at 50% health to let the healer heal.
And told me to stop spamming IP
potent anvil
Without pasting it all back, it starts here #protection message
warm plinth
I couldn't hit 150k like the commenter. I suck.
For shame 😦
potent anvil
potent anvil
I didn't spam revenge hard enough
warm plinth
Plot twist, mwahi is talking about my comments
potent anvil
ionic fern
You also commented?
warm plinth
I did. In response to the other dude.
potent anvil
My one vid basically has a reddit post in it with so many comments and responses
warm plinth
I am a deswind fan, even when he's not playing pwar 
It's straight from compwow for sure
potent anvil
I'll upload this FH run
warm plinth
potent anvil
One day I'll pug in 26s/27s
warm plinth
Only if you press revenge more and stop pressing IP over 50% hp
warm plinth
They don't want to dps anyway according to the wow forum posters
gusty stratus
I couldn't hit 150k like the commenter. I suck.
we need more from the r druid tbh
spice pivot
warm plinth
I hope I represented us well in my responses
potent anvil
we need more from the r druid tbh
The druid is trying their best
spice pivot
druid is druiding
gusty stratus
ionic fern
The druid is trying their best <:gladge:963970137701109820>
Druid could do better if you let them HEAL YOU!
potent anvil
Which vid, the one with the comment?
ionic fern
I think that's the one Ghash is talking about, je.
spice pivot
Do you guys prefer running keys with a resto druid, resto shaman or holy pally?
ionic fern
I like a good druid.
HoTs on you and they DPS.
But i have to say, like 95% of druids just spam Regrowth for no reason.
Instead of letting the hots work.
gusty stratus
Do you guys prefer running keys with a resto druid, resto shaman or holy pally?
r sham ftw
gusty stratus
I 3.1k r sham atm so i am bias
potent anvil
Whichever has big healer energy. I run with tons of healers, as long as they know what's coming it's all the same to me.
spice pivot
LOL
gusty stratus
r druid has insane throughput
bleak breach
i don't care aslong as they keep me alive
gusty stratus
but honestly deswind said it, big healer energy is the key
spice pivot
truth
ionic fern
" Nevertheless, thanks for the advice, I'll incorporate it in the next run."
Don't
Deswind.
Don't.
spice pivot
appreciate the advice fellas
spice pivot
biased
bleak breach
@spice pivot all about buffs in group to me though, if you don't have a druid buff grab a druid. don't necessarily need it but as many buffs as possible helps.
gusty stratus
a good r druid just has tons of coverage
potent anvil
Also, I couldn't break this entangling on this FH run. It spawned way below the bridge and no matter how far I leapt, I still got stunned afterwards. Cursed affix.
bleak breach
yep, don't really see their other specs used as much
gusty stratus
especially if not a bear tank
gusty stratus
Also, I couldn't break this entangling on this FH run. It spawned way below the ...
ngl man that is fucked
potent anvil
He plays pwarr for 4 years, and pugged into 26/27s. He's better than me
lusty grotto
anyone can pug into 26 and 27 (so long as you have a meta class thats able to fish for groups LOL)
we have a guy that STILL doesnt know basic routing
though to be fair he hasnt said anything in a while
but basic routing in s2 of DF which is press W
strong forum
He plays pwarr for 4 years, and pugged into 26/27s. He's better than me
It's 150k in BH....
with an aug
I just read that
potent anvil
Yeah
strong forum
Breh
potent anvil
Has more io, so clearly better
pallid quiver
so if he's good since he's played pwar for 4 years, that means I'm a god since I've played pwar since '06
lusty grotto
good fucking lord
potent anvil
I refuse to let the healer play the game 
lusty grotto
i must be a force of nature then
pallid quiver
I only ever die in any case just to make things interesting for the newbie plebs
gusty stratus
I refuse to let the healer play the game <a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
even more context for more r druid dps needed??
jk catweaving sucks to do in S2
potent anvil
rdruid just doing their best
potent anvil
lusty grotto
fuck now im gonna go to sleep with those, "i know ive seen that name before"
not a good time
fuck
jagged gust
I love that that youtube thread guy keeps giving gold star responses
lusty grotto
oh before i go to sleep
i got one BSV log
i havent checked it yet cause i just rolled my eyes cause they wanted that guy to tank instead of me cause apparently nimchipadin is amazing dps
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vq6PNzDMk8CX9HBQ#fight=18 here you go, hope it provides more BSV cases cause i couldn't bother to say anything regarding his talents (besides disrupting shout)
feel free to look at the other tries as well
i know i checked talents before exp tries, and i was so confused about disrupting shout instead of any shield charge talents that i just said "hey you dont need disrupting shout" and left it at that
modern brook
Bsv = big stupid virgin right?
lusty grotto
yes
ionic fern
What are we looking at?
ionic fern
His HP diddn't drop below 30% and it procced BSV. What else is new.
modern brook
warm plinth
<@255696891000389633> incase you didnt know aug is a new support class
Shit thanks dude I had no idea!
jagged pier
oh before i go to sleep
ive started doing a service
brah what is this warrior doing?
8 CPM on SS
jagged gust
ive started doing a service
Please tell me you have that macro'd
jagged pier
No its a / e so has to be typed everytime only way i can tell hordes not to run it
warm plinth
No its a / e so has to be typed everytime only way i can tell hordes not to run ...
That doesn't work lol. If you do custom emotes it just says something like "so-and-so makes some strange gestures" on their end
jagged pier
eh im doing my part
warm plinth
It's the thought that counts right
jagged pier
well maybe they will see it and question why
pallid quiver
rashok in pugs kinda hard when your ui bugs out and you can't see casts anymore
pallid quiver
From what we can tell, it doesn't work still in a different way
It still doesn't work as intended
toxic geyser
toxic geyser
😞
blazing condor
Im happy us pwarrs got out own Storm Earth Fire
Endlessly bugged and always gonna need to be fixed 
warm plinth
this was a very painful timewalking dungeon
warm plinth
This is the worst one I've had all week, and it's not close :/
Almost as bad as a Luerce megadungeon
pallid quiver
Yo, I don't understand how DotI can go so rough
It's super funny, too, when it goes rough with people who know how to press buttons
but they just straight don't know mechanics but refuse to admit it
so I have to awkwardly just explain them to the air, just as "friendly reminders in case we've forgotten"
ionic fern
I always do DotI with the mindset of "just another normal dungeon".
And then die to boss mechanic one shots.
pallid quiver
to me it is just another normal dungeon at this point
since I've hit it every week for 4 weeks on 3 chars or something
I've only had like two runs that aren't mega cursed, tho
ionic fern
I don't really do it.
pallid quiver
I go into last boss just simply expecting to solo it
ionic fern
I only went since someone from the guild wanted the cheat death trinket.
pallid quiver
It's been really good for catchup gear on a casual level, ngl
pallid quiver
free 437 gear, crests to craft what you miss,
bam i'm 43x in like a week or two
all with zero M+ spam
pallid quiver
Which is good for me, since I hate looking at most of the M+ dungeons in rotation
ionic fern
Just do the dream event thingy.
pallid quiver
Those get you 402s and a 415 upgradeable
So I do those, craft 424s, hit mega dungeon
and I just only do that and passively gear alts, all without stepping foot into cave town or icky cave town
If you touch M+, tho, it's definitely a lot faster
But it's really nice for being mega casual gearing
i'm also confident i'll be fine when doti hits M+ time
because damn do i have to solo a lot of shit in there while tanking
grim pilot
Tbf, you can be 43x in like 2 days.
Especially if you got some gold, 1 megadungeon boost and spam some m+ and you can be 435 same day you hit lvl 70 with ease
warm plinth
I'd like to solo you, if you know what I mean
ionic fern
warm plinth
I have to get a cavity filled today 
jagged pier
pallid quiver
Fill it with happy juice
warm plinth
pallid quiver
feed kitty
lament shell
toxic geyser
anyone got any info on spell reflects thus far on PTR?
nevermind, wasnt expecting Sense's doc to be updated for ptr already (POG)
wintry nymph
healer yelling at the group pov
for good reason
waxen frigate
I feel like nobody really talks about how influential doom was to the video game industry
blazing condor
jagged pier
toxic geyser
Rq, I know you can SR other peoples chain lightnings on last boss of VP but is there a way of doing it that negates the damage on the targetted player? Because I swear I did a key early in the season with 2 warriors and anytime it would target someone they would run into the circle and it didnt seem to do any damage to the targetted player. Was a while ago so i could be tripping since i've been unable to replicate the damage prevention component
toxic geyser
that would be too big brain for the dps warriors in an 18 or whatever it was
but that is interesting
waxen frigate
early season 18s are different though
toxic geyser
whats the cd on intervene? because it seemed to be all of them
daring marlin
It never negated the damage on the targeted person
blazing condor
also intervene only prevents physical damage anyway doesnt it
waxen frigate
pretty sure it only prevents melees
waxen frigate
no melees and ranged
i dont think it's physical school though
presumably it works the same as dodge/parry/block
toxic geyser
I remember intervene working on one of sky captain kragg's shots in bfa
but I dont remember if it was the physical or dot one
waxen frigate
yea but those shots work differently now i believe
sweet summit
defo not powder shot
toxic geyser
i think it was the first shot
blazing condor
back in bfa you had intercept so intervening made sense
sweet summit
p1 shots ye
blazing condor
now you dont spec into intervene
sweet summit
random target
toxic geyser
becuase you'd spam the target of target macro for it
blazing condor
i just press the target of target portrait 🙂
toxic geyser
i just press the target of target portrait 🙂
blazing condor
when i played arms in SL id die to intervene every now and then
big oopsie when youre used to running intervene as pwarr
daring marlin
defo not powder shot
of course not, melee had to LoS
toxic geyser
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIG7TwwjS38
god he's such good value LOL
daring marlin
dog ass dungeon
toxic geyser
Soulrender and Gromnak, an iconic duo
waxen frigate
we love gromnak in this house
waxen frigate
Soulrender and Gromnak, an iconic duo
Gromnak and goblin pussies, an iconic duo
blazing condor
toxic geyser
The parry on his siegebreaker or whatever, what a clip
waxen frigate
The parry on his siegebreaker or whatever, what a clip
toxic geyser
Gromnak and what now?
waxen frigate
GET ME THE FUCK OUT OFH ERE
toxic geyser
"WHATCHA PUSHING BUUUUD??"
toxic geyser
jagged pier
waxen frigate
IF I DIE TO THE FLASK THATS YOUR FUCKIN FAULT BRO
IF I DIE TO SHADOW WORD DEATH THATS ALSO YOUR FUCKIN FAULT BRO
blazing condor
gigachad m+ players
toxic geyser
https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantCrepuscularHippoKappaClaus-lOKY6gDV6WKIDN24
Man
he will just kick off about anything
blazing condor
toxic geyser
the intonation "brrrAYN dead" is just fuckin...
blazing condor
what do you mean i can't come wipe 50 times in a row to the 4th boss 9 months into the patch? 🥺
because a dps dont know how to press the extra action button
toxic geyser
chef's kiss
toxic geyser
the meek "yo can I get a summon" after blasting his viewers headphones
holy shit
HAHAHA
waxen frigate
adjusts mic
blazing condor
i am
toxic geyser
he's comin after you now dude
jagged pier
he doesnt come to prot
toxic geyser
grim pilot
https://clips.twitch.tv/ExuberantCrepuscularHippoKappaClaus-lOKY6gDV6WKIDN24
Imagine being this guys neighbour
I cant find rasz clip where he died from not using healthpot and called some guy bud like 10 times
lusty grotto
morning
warm plinth
Oh
sick sentinel
It's Monday
sick sentinel
It's not Chewsday
pallid quiver
live the one key life
the amount of people who are bewildered that i'm only 153 io on my main is hilarious
warm plinth
Well, I have done one key, but only on one toon
lusty grotto
You went to sleep and woke up
yee
daring marlin
live the one key life
That's one too many!
covert plinth
@potent anvil you learn how to play prot yet?
lusty grotto
potent anvil
<@95652243235143680> you learn how to play prot yet? <:SweatPopcorn:997088541903...
I'm an enhancement main
covert plinth
brisk kelp
hello protection bros, is ther site with m+ dungeon guides? not just yt vid. wher i can lookup routes and packs and tings? help pls.
opaque quest
No trinkets or Djaruun bound yet. No wonder nobody plays brew lmao
lusty grotto
hello protection bros, is ther site with m+ dungeon guides? not just yt vid. whe...
start with those or quazii's
south zealot
No trinkets or Djaruun bound yet. No wonder nobody plays brew lmao
yeah for when i play brew i personally play special delivery and press the advantage
to just remove some fucking buttons lol
and bob and weave over the other brew
its definitely worse but i only do like +13s on it for fun so idc
opaque quest
yeah for when i play brew i personally play special delivery and press the advan...
Incredible. How do other classes get a rework before brew wtf
south zealot
while brew is bloated it still functions pretty smoothly
toxic pewter
All warrior specs need rework
south zealot
should monk have gotten attention before mage rogue or dh? maybe but im not sure
its hard to say
i think eventually we'll be at a spot where every class has had their major flaws 'fixed' and every spec feels sick af to play
opaque quest
In 12.0 when the playerbase dropped to 5k
I dont think ive seen a single monk in the last 5 months in a +17 or higher key
toxic pewter
Yeah all monk specs need a ground up rework. Burn it all and start over
Like literally all new abilities
Basically delete the class
And redo it
toxic pewter
Lmao
lusty grotto
id say that yeah monk needed a rework kind of at the same time as paladin
well
maybe before
cause monk has always been a mess
all of its specs i mean
well mop monks were good
and i guess bfa mw
south zealot
I dont think ive seen a single monk in the last 5 months in a +17 or higher key
ive seen quite a bit of brews
handful of mws
only 1 ww though lol
warm plinth
Yeah ww definitely seems to be an endangered species right now
lusty grotto
its weird how WW isnt on BTM
south zealot
literally all of your abilities except tiger palm do aoe
and your aoe is still dogshit
south zealot
its weird how WW isnt on BTM
its above the bottom 50% of specs
havoc is on there bc no class is completely banned so they banned vdh and allowed havoc
imo ww should definitely be there over say, arcane or dev, but whatever lol
south zealot
yeah
lusty grotto
my bro plays ww
toxic pewter
I think we are due for a rework also though to be honest
toxic pewter
But I think blizz is happy with where warriors are. We hardly have patch notes these days
opaque quest
Also very floof which is a big +
lusty grotto
i have a feeling that monks have been neglected because of kalinksyKalieki or w/e his name is leaving the company
but shit that was a while ago
opaque quest
1 person playing monk at blizz is telling ngl
fading tide
How hard is Dawn on mythic? Is it compared to a plus 20?
lusty grotto
dawn is a 16
jagged pier
15-17
lusty grotto
kind of
opaque quest
Damn really that high?
jagged pier
yes
opaque quest
I feel like apart from 2nd boss everything is free
lusty grotto
its easy if you have a decently geared group
pugs with alts are hell
evoked it the other day and last boss gave us the most trouble cause dps couldn't kill adds and they just destoryed the brew tank
final mist
But I think blizz is happy with where warriors are. We hardly have patch notes t...
That or they don't know what to do with us
Idk which option is worse tbh
lusty grotto
to be fair
all the reworks have been fairly good
like i would have never played ret if that wasnt the case
opaque quest
Yeah agree. They are all bangers. But they just take way to long. If we continue the trend some classes will be good in 11.3
lusty grotto
and obviously a lot of the reworks are meta classes now so yea
yeah thats very true
opaque quest
Dragonflight already has problem retaining ppl. Half my Flist stops playing 2 weeks into a patch
opaque quest
Its probably not his fault because bobby ruined it but after ghost left and he took over wow went downhill
daring marlin
Let me guess, you read about it in the cards?
opaque quest
Just unlucky timing
toxic pewter
Its probably not his fault because bobby ruined it but after ghost left and he t...
Yeah exactly, a lot of the backbone of wow left
toxic pewter
Let me guess, you read about it in the cards?
Lol what you mean, it’s just rumors I heard
daring marlin
Rumors from where?
toxic pewter
YouTube mmo champion x
opaque quest
Or at least Cata and 10.3
toxic pewter
We getting: 11.0, classic+ (new content for classic wow era)… and then they will do a “just one more thing…:
Sneak peak very early preview of the next generation of WoW.. an upgrade effectively wow 2
toxic pewter
They gonna do it right though they’ve learned lessons
Third times the charm
Or 4th
opaque quest
Was about to say
opaque quest
Whatever they announce im not gonna buy it day 1. Even with Dragonflight ive waited 2 months
BFA 2
SL 5
toxic pewter
Ya most people are gone forever
But if they put the war back in Warcraft with a bold new announcement
People may return
toxic pewter
I’m a staunch “put war back in Warcraft” individual
opaque quest
Yeah ditto. I want a real undead expansion
lusty grotto
toxic pewter
Can interpret that in various ways I suppose doesn’t have to be horde vs alliance
toxic pewter
A new rts may be announced also
opaque quest
SC2 doesnt even get official patches anymore. Its the community that writes the patch notes
After reforged they will never make another rts
toxic pewter
That may be the path they take.. make a reimagined rts and expansions then do another mmo based on that 10 years from now LOL
toxic pewter
Yeah most gamers have abandoned blizzard that’s why this blizzcon has to be the boldest most badass blizzcon of all time
If it’s not
daring marlin
apb trying to bring people back is a losing strategy
What they should do is figure out a way to entice new players
ionic roost
Yeah most gamers have abandoned blizzard that’s why this blizzcon has to be the ...
We love blanket statements with no real proof
toxic pewter
What they should do is figure out a way to entice new players
I agree with that too I guess
opaque quest
Pretty sure all our empty friendlists are proof
toxic pewter
We love blanket statements with no real proof
I mean blizzcon didn’t even sell out
That’s all the proof I need
modern brook
What they should do is figure out a way to entice new players
How bout they make a game thay doesn't gargle balls?
Thats enticing
lusty grotto
after d4/ow2, they need to maintain not make new bold shit that may turn off their remaining players. Especially now that microsoft is finalizing the bureauocracy for the purchase
opaque quest
How bout they make a game thay doesn't gargle balls?
Cant do that. All the brain power needs to go into the monetization
daring marlin
How bout they make a game thay doesn't gargle balls?
tall order bro
modern brook
My guys made peggle they can capture lightning again
ionic roost
I mean blizzcon didn’t even sell out
im willing to bet like 90% of blizzards IP playerbase doesnt even know blizzcon exists
opaque quest
im willing to bet like 90% of blizzards IP playerbase doesnt even know blizzcon ...
Because we dont have 50 popups in battlenet
ionic roost
no pop ups on mobile
toxic pewter
Lol
daring marlin
ain't no way
modern brook
90% of blizzards playerbase is not in mobile only hearthstone and immortal players tbh
toxic pewter
I guess I am just an old man at this point
lusty tiger
Guilford and I r meeting at blizzcon
modern brook
Arc light rumble tho 😍
toxic pewter
I remember a time when blizzcon was the gaming event of the year
lusty grotto
no, that was e3
toxic pewter
Not to me
daring marlin
no, that was e3
this
opaque quest
I loved living in cologne for 10 years. Right next to Gamescom
toxic pewter
Blizzcon was always my favorite
opaque quest
I still go but now i need to drive an hour <.<
lusty grotto
ive played this game since vanilla and i have NEVER EVER watched a blizzcon outside of maybe a clip of which band is playing
opaque quest
A whole hour???
A W H O L E H O U R
lusty grotto
maybe the trailer for the new exp, thats it
toxic pewter
We def getting next xpac cinematic
opaque quest
What do they announce next year if they spoiler next expact this year?^^
opaque quest
toxic pewter
This year is all Warcraft
toxic pewter
Lol
opaque quest
Nobody cares. Diablo 4 doesnt make Blizzcon
opaque quest
Might be. But nobody will come back lol
toxic pewter
If you build it they will come
daring marlin
I didn't play S1 at all cuz...yeah
Faster leveling and better targeted farming interests me
opaque quest
I played a total of 0 Seconds in S1
I have exactly 1 of my friends still playing but he got banned in Destiny 2 otherwise he wouldnt play either lol
daring marlin
Like Nome said it feels pretty shit that nothing matters til 50-70+
modern brook
Imagine getting banned in shitty halo
opaque quest
For a fucking title
modern brook
And so you're forced to play shitty poe
opaque quest
Infinite is apparently good now
modern brook
No you don't you miss being 17
opaque quest
But nobody comes back so it remains dead
modern brook
You're like 50 right?
daring marlin
I was 14!
modern brook
Halo came out 40 years ago dude
toxic pewter
I bought Xbox and original halo on launch day
And I had a Dreamcast launch day
And n64 launch day
daring marlin
My first xbox with all my games were stolen and pawned for drugs
toxic pewter
Halo was actually a life altering game
daring marlin
By my older scumbag brother 🙂
lusty grotto
i was addicted to the pokemon in that one sonic game
cause i wanted to get the golden and platinum ones and i did
and black one i think
i got n64 for xmas
so i was like that kid
NINTENDO SIXTY FOUUUUURRRRR
lusty tiger
Halo 2 owned
WHENS HALO
lusty grotto
my dad got so mad at me and my brother yelling playing goldeneye
that he took out the casette while we were playing
toxic pewter
Yeah dude n64 was peak childhood gaming memories
lusty grotto
and threw it against the wall
toxic pewter
Damn that’s awful lol
lusty grotto
we picked it up, put it back in and it worked still lol
toxic pewter
Oh hell yea
lusty tiger
on that dad shit
lusty grotto
tbf we did rage a lot playing goldeneye
LOL
fucking dwarf whatshisname was banned or you would get fucked up in rl
the little guy
lusty tiger
im more of a timesplitters 2 guy
lusty grotto
my dad used to love playing soul calibur though
modern brook
Oddjob
lusty grotto
ya oddjob
modern brook
Baby mode
modern brook
My man's getting banned for posting Taki pics
lusty grotto
would go under motion explosives
modern brook
(I assume)
lusty grotto
bro that triggered everyone
toxic pewter
Goldeneye and also perfect dark
lusty grotto
perfect dark was fun too yea
toxic pewter
But goldeneye was industry changing
lusty grotto
shadows of the empire
modern brook
N64 best console of all time?
Objectively 360 or ps3
toxic pewter
I dunno. I think a case could be made for Super Nintendo or n64
modern brook
Sure a wrong case
modern brook
You're just a toddler with new tech
toxic pewter
Lol
toxic pewter
Lol
modern brook
Nostalgia and new tech
toxic pewter
PlayStation 2 was the best console in my opinion
lusty grotto
but yeah there were a lot of industry changers on n64, you cant argue against that
modern brook
Snes is literally 45 platformers and ??????
modern brook
but yeah there were a lot of industry changers on n64, you cant argue against th...
Yeah no doubt
lusty grotto
jrpgs i guess
modern brook
But if we're going off quality it's 369 era
toxic pewter
How can you say PlayStation 3 over PlayStation 2
lusty grotto
everyone remembers the snes because of the platformers and the chrono triggers/ff6s
and zelda
so basically that
well and the 1st mario kart
toxic pewter
It’s not just nastalgia though. Many of the games still play well today in my opinion