protection

[waxen frigate]

I did a 25 fort vp like 3 months ago and was chillin

[strong forum]

It's not the 25, it's the bolstering

[waxen frigate]

Ya

I know lol

[strong forum]

Well VP doesn't count

Let's be real

[waxen frigate]

Shush

I think our final main comp is brew, deva, feral, Dps DK, pres

[jagged pier]

[waxen frigate]

But feral is flexible to most specs, and I can prot or blood

But blood is cheating let’s be real

[strong forum]

Sounds aight

Bdk is defo cheating in 25s

[waxen frigate]

Yea

I think our goal is 26/27s

[strong forum]

Is it uncapped?

Like which group gets the highest overall keys done wins?

[waxen frigate]

Just a personal goal

It’s not group it’s per spec

So highest io of each spec gained this week

Wins

[strong forum]

Well then pwar is your easiest bet I think

[waxen frigate]

But there’s no actual team scoring apparently

[strong forum]

Cuz nobody plays that

[waxen frigate]

Nobody plays brew either

[strong forum]

True

Equally underrepresented 🤝

[waxen frigate]

I’m just gonna play brew unless I die nonstop

Then play turtle pwarr

With BSV and shit xdd

[strong forum]

Brother

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[strong forum]

BTM doesn't mean you should also play whack talent builds

That's not a requirment

[waxen frigate]

You’re right

Illl stick to bleed support

[blazing condor]

BTM??? but i thought pwarrs were the most OP spec out there

eveyrone said so

literally broken

[strong forum]

Nah that was 8 months ago, we've only been buffed like 5 times since then

But still the weakest tank

[blazing condor]

ah thats a shame

[waxen frigate]

Meanwhile Paladin is paper

[strong forum]

😔

[waxen frigate]

And brew is also paper

But really sharp paper

[blazing condor]

too bad we went from aboslute meta to literally garbage just like that

[strong forum]

Truly unfortunate

[lusty grotto]

meanwhile in another game

[strong forum]

That's alot of paladins

No

[lusty grotto]

sir

[strong forum]

What is that symbil

[strong forum]

Paladin is clearly the 1 shield

Ah

[lusty grotto]

i am the cutest warrior okay

[waxen frigate]

https://www.merriam-webster.com/time-traveler/

Guys what words are the same age as you

[lusty grotto]

yes

[strong forum]

instant messaging

noob aswell

or USB

[lusty grotto]

idk dude there's a lot

[waxen frigate]

Active shooter is the first one for me

https://tenor.com/view/aintnoway-gif-27058877

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/skull-gif-26280065

[lusty tiger]

me: opens discord
nish:

[lusty grotto]

ez ban

[strong forum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/533679723147165707.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[lusty tiger]

cosplayer

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/stare-linkstare-catstare-theboysbutdumb-gif-26094112

[lusty tiger]

these are so fucking true and real

[lusty grotto]

wait nish i was joking

[waxen frigate]

amirite

[lusty grotto]

o

thank god

[strong forum]

bruh

[lusty grotto]

e-brake

[strong forum]

are you like... 19?

[lusty tiger]

24

[strong forum]

close enough

[lusty grotto]

fuck im ancient

[strong forum]

ye i think youre like 6 years older than me

or was it more

🤔

[lusty grotto]

im kinda surprised deplatform is 24 years old

seems weird

[lusty tiger]

yeah theyre all... perfect

[lusty grotto]

and cosplayer

[lusty tiger]

aged like fine wine

yep

[lusty grotto]

cause im pretty sure there was cosplay before then

[lusty tiger]

cam girl

[lusty grotto]

but i guess there wasnt a defined word for it or something?

or an official definition?

idk

[lusty tiger]

cyberbullying

holy fuck they are all soo 🔥

[lusty grotto]

but did you see mine

just put before 19th century

ez

[lusty tiger]

oof

[strong forum]

how was it to first discover fire

[lusty grotto]

wait no its before 12th century

[lusty tiger]

nim as old as words

jeez

[lusty grotto]

id have to ask the one who really discovered it, i just tagged along for the ride

[lusty tiger]

how was it to first discover grope

[lusty grotto]

lmaoo

at least the pillaging and other things were warmer

[warm plinth]

Gangsta is on my list

[lusty grotto]

ghash with the og coolness

[warm plinth]

Oh no...

I'm so sorry guys

It's my fault

[lusty grotto]

sir im going to have to ask you to leave

[warm plinth]

😭

[lusty tiger]

how could u

[plush tendon]

much like the year 1996.... I got

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/sanford-fred-heart-attack-heart-attack-gif-5614504

[robust rover]

Any concerns with this CPM list?

[blazing condor]

yes

you have 34 demo shouts but only 22 shield charge

despite them having the same CD

also that revenge CPM is honestly whack

you would probably use more IP since its off GCD and youd need to dump rage

i just assume you have wasted rage, even if you have hella revenge casts

[robust rover]

Yep. Wasted rage is a fact.

[blazing condor]

answer is using IP more

[waxen frigate]

Could be thunderlord?

[blazing condor]

yeah could be

can you post the whole log?

[mystic warren]

the rage overcap on that must be insane

[robust rover]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ZCaBRpWnAcmYtv3f#fight=1&type=damage-done&source=1

[waxen frigate]

Also IP is insanely low

[robust rover]

Yeh I need to move IP to a better bind I think

[waxen frigate]

Mine is on alt 6 and I still get 15+ cpm

I’m simply built different

[blazing condor]

yeah youre wasting 6,5% of your rage

which is a lot of wasted rage

[lusty tiger]

500 revenges

who hurt u

[blazing condor]

hes vengeful

[waxen frigate]

How do u view that

[lusty tiger]

kinda based tho

[blazing condor]

resources > rage

then just wasted / total

and yeah you're running thunderlord which isn't really what people run

[crystal mauve]

If IP is alt 6 I’m curious to know what’s shield slam lol

[waxen frigate]

1

[crystal mauve]

Disappointing I was expecting something crazy

[waxen frigate]

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

you really REALLY like to press revenge

[lusty tiger]

really good cpm and blocked hits tho

[lusty grotto]

revenge isnt raze

[blazing condor]

yeah its not terrible

just fewer revenge and more IP

[lusty grotto]

im talking bear now fuck

[waxen frigate]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/3wZGzxPHmjb6DvNd#fight=44&type=resources&source=1140&spell=101

[mystic warren]

alt 6

[blazing condor]

TC CPM and SS CPM is fine

[lusty grotto]

because you know thats a bear player

[waxen frigate]

Mobile logs sadge

[mystic warren]

how are you pressing alt 6 that often

[waxen frigate]

Ask me about any of my binds for any tank other than bear

[mystic warren]

comfortably

[lusty grotto]

nish is simply a god

[robust rover]

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll focus on more IP

[lusty grotto]

you will never comprehend it

[mystic warren]

No I think I can

tell me nish

how long are your fingers

[lusty grotto]

no you cannot

sorry

moving o n

[waxen frigate]

Average I think

[blazing condor]

yeah wtf alt 6 is crazy

maybe its right alt

[lusty grotto]

IP is off-gcd and youre opting to press a gcd ability to dump rage?

i think that's the core problem

[waxen frigate]

🙂

[lusty grotto]

like i said, revenge is not raze

[waxen frigate]

Those bars are scuffed btw 7 is normally combat pot

And ctrl-= for healthstone

But that’s the pic I have

Of my main binds

[mystic warren]

please tell me anything that's bound to 7+ is on your mouse

[waxen frigate]

It’s all on my mouse

[mystic warren]

ok now it makes sense

[waxen frigate]

I do not ever press any keys besides QWEASD

BUT

[lusty grotto]

he clicks them, is what he means

[waxen frigate]

I have keyboard turn bound

I almost never use it though

Just like in valdrakken

Or out of combat

I’m just used to Q/E strafe

[lusty grotto]

nish youre

well, you ruined

a great opportunity

[waxen frigate]

How

I’ve done that many many times in my life

[mystic warren]

for someone that uses his mouse for all binds I'm surprised there's no wheel up/down

[waxen frigate]

Mouse wheel binds are the mark of the devil

I can also explain the rationale behind every single one of those binds and what they mean on a generalized basis across all specs in all games (MMOs)

[mystic warren]

I have hs/pot bound to them because they're my easy panic button

[lusty grotto]

uhh

[waxen frigate]

I wrote up my 1-12 in another discord recently

Let me grab that

[mystic warren]

aight alt 4

[lusty grotto]

mouse wheel is just camera

[waxen frigate]

Interrupt

Always

[lusty grotto]

😎

[waxen frigate]

I don’t play any specs without interrupts

And I leave it unbound if it’s not talented

Here’s a quick walk through my 1-12 bind ideology.
1 - primary builder/filler
2 - primary spender/major offensive rotational key
3 - secondary builder or charge-like spells (clash, charge, infernal strike)
4 - non targeted aoe or cone
5 - primary aoe or cone
6 - usually a DoT or ranged ability
7 - potion/some sort of buff
8 - major filler abilities or big aoe CDs
9 - ranged ability
0 - self buff CD

• • major class CD
    = - this one is a bit of a flex spot since it was originally my out of combat heal in swtor. Nowadays it’s usually a random CD

The formatting got fucked up for “-“

But whatever

[blazing condor]

do you actually bind the numbers 1-12?

like across the key board

[lusty grotto]

well i wasnt expecting a wall of text from nish today

[waxen frigate]

No like I said I don’t use any buttons on my keyboard for non movement/modification in combat

The exception is F = warlock gate

[blazing condor]

[waxen frigate]

V = temporary action button

[blazing condor]

you got naga mouse?

[waxen frigate]

Yes

[lusty grotto]

i guess im completely the opposite of nish

[blazing condor]

explains it

[waxen frigate]

For 10 years

[blazing condor]

is ur thumb fucked

[waxen frigate]

No

[blazing condor]

or did thta just happen to me

[lusty tiger]

control-7 is my potion too

[waxen frigate]

I bowled for all of high school

[lusty grotto]

but ive said this before, i dont use mmo mice

[waxen frigate]

So my thumb is a fucking monster

[lusty tiger]

somehow this sounds worse than being a band kid

[lusty grotto]

yooo

bowling is fun

[waxen frigate]

Alr dude first I’m getting attacked for my binds now because I can strike and you can’t

[lusty grotto]

especially drunk bowling

[lusty tiger]

tru

i suck ass at bowling

because i dont like it

[waxen frigate]

Most people do

I just int whenever I play with non bowlers

Because otherwise you look weird

[lusty grotto]

im so disappointed

you need to establish dominance

[lusty tiger]

^

[waxen frigate]

Oh I still win

[crystal mauve]

The best warlock gate keybind is alt or shift+W 👍

[waxen frigate]

I just don’t like giga shit on them

[lusty grotto]

well you should

and then look at them straight in the eye

and whisper

skill issue

[grand veldt]

Bro ulda is just clapping me

[lusty grotto]

skill issue

[grand veldt]

I don't know what I'm doing wrong exactly, like some chains get off but I reflect them

But like the damage is just unreasonable

My evokers never caut my bleeds

I'm constantly slowed

Constantly getting stone spiked

Idk wtf to do

[lusty grotto]

be better

[lusty tiger]

dont get bleeded

[lusty grotto]

just use stoneform

[lusty tiger]

if u gotta kite the gators ))))): kite the gators

[lusty grotto]

ez

[lusty tiger]

tru!

[blazing condor]

basilisks are not our friends

[lusty tiger]

^

[grand veldt]

The spiked carapace are always going off

Does that effect me?

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Vhb1dGTQacNxtYKL#fight=8

[lusty grotto]

effect?

or affect?

[blazing condor]

affect

[grand veldt]

Effect

[blazing condor]

[lusty grotto]

ok well i cant answer that question cause i have no idea what you mean

[blazing condor]

heres ur damage breakdown

[grand veldt]

That key was bricked in 4 minutes flat

[blazing condor]

stone spike big bad

[sick sentinel]

how is the differnce between affect and effect again, like the main way i know is, "the effect of putting water onto a fire extinguishes it"

[blazing condor]

you get affected by an effect

[lusty tiger]

uhfect

[lusty grotto]

yes ty yogi

[lusty tiger]

effect is a state and affect is a verb

[grand veldt]

Like should I just be constantly LOS spikes

Or just accept that if they're not stopping it

I'm dead

[lusty grotto]

ok let me just do this

[blazing condor]

2.5 sec cast

ppl should cc

[lusty grotto]

#268491842637660160

[grand veldt]

I used spell block

[lusty grotto]

just so you know what to do

[lusty tiger]

good

[lusty grotto]

great, shits solved

tell your group to kick

[lusty tiger]

gg

[lusty grotto]

ez

[lusty tiger]

case closed

[waxen frigate]

There are 50 states none of them are named effect

[lusty grotto]

problem solved!

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/detective-conan-shinichi-kudo-jimmy-kudo-conan-edogawa-dramatic-gif-18688196

[blazing condor]

maybe not in your america-centric mind

[lusty tiger]

tru

[waxen frigate]

Are you european

[lusty tiger]

ur a 🇵 eeing

[blazing condor]

ima pean on ur mom

[lusty tiger]

kekw

[waxen frigate]

Ok that’s it

Punk show George bush is gonna kill you

[blazing condor]

the world trade grand slam

[lusty tiger]

my dad went to this concert

[waxen frigate]

Real

Thursday afternoons lowkey worse than 9/11 sometimes man

😔

[blazing condor]

[lusty tiger]

nish dont even know when 9/11 was

[waxen frigate]

Bro

When Aaron rodgers got hurt on Monday night football on 9/11

My friend from NY said this was the worst event to take place in New York City on September 11th

[lusty tiger]

🤔

https://tenor.com/view/happy-birthday-thursday-blessings-blessing-peace-gif-663603769032625382

@waxen frigate

[lusty grotto]

78% block on that small pack lol

[lusty grotto]

well not small pack, but short amount of time in the dungeon

[lusty tiger]

is this u?

[waxen frigate]

Ya

[lusty grotto]

yes it is

[lusty tiger]

cutie shaved his beard huh?

[lusty grotto]

indeed

[waxen frigate]

Ya

[lusty grotto]

looks better bearded though

[waxen frigate]

UwU

[lusty grotto]

there i fixed it

[waxen frigate]

Holy

I’d do me

[vapid wedge]

Truth

[lusty grotto]

id take you out on a date

[lusty tiger]

jeebus

nim: so what do you do for work
nish: I make memes for skyhold

[lusty grotto]

[median tulip]

apparently I'm the same age as "Attention Deficit Disorder", which TBH totally tracks

[lusty grotto]

forsooth

[jagged pier]

Kekw

[lusty grotto]

👀

[wind oak]

[lusty tiger]

lmfao i got the same glasses

isnt that pokimane

[lusty grotto]

is it?

[lusty tiger]

methinks it is

[daring marlin]

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/sasuke-cringe-post-bro-you-just-posted-cringe-gif-15887848

[lusty grotto]

lmaooooo

[lusty tiger]

are denying the fact that nish can pull pokimane and you cant

u calling him a phony?

[strong forum]

That would require for me to find pokimane attractive

[mighty valley]

i got some real bad ones

[lusty tiger]

jesus

1998 is the best hands down

[jagged gust]

paleo diet? ewww

[lusty tiger]

your type?:

[strong forum]

Hell nah

[warm plinth]

You know I made a pretty good skyhold meme too

[lusty grotto]

nonono

[jagged gust]

Somehow all my words combined sound like one big red flag

[lusty tiger]

that's just my soundcloud

[warm plinth]

What's wrong Nim?

[lusty tiger]

let's c it

[lusty grotto]

uhh

[jagged gust]

I hope it includes Jordan

[lusty tiger]

goth girls... nonono- lexipro girlies?

[warm plinth]

You should ask Nim to post 8tut

It

[warm plinth]

Lmao

[lusty tiger]

[lusty grotto]

i will do no such thing

jordan too famous for us now

[lusty tiger]

post it : F

[warm plinth]

[strong forum]

Tomboys is where its at

[lusty grotto]

jordan is farming engagements in x

[lusty tiger]

so eu horse girls?

[waxen frigate]

Holy

[warm plinth]

Pixie cuts are my weakness

[strong forum]

No, more like skater girls

[waxen frigate]

L take L take L take

[lusty tiger]

punk?!

[strong forum]

Sure

[warm plinth]

It's okay I'll do it for you

[jagged gust]

shaved head, covered in tattoos, daddy issues out the wazoo

[lusty tiger]

that... is an epic meme

[lusty grotto]

photoshops

[strong forum]

I'll take the tattoos and daddy issues

[lusty tiger]

nome looking for a girl that'll cheat on him with a coke dealer

smh

[lusty grotto]

tattoos are mmyes

[warm plinth]

Love you Nim

[strong forum]

Anybody who cheats is a lost cause or it simply wasn't meant to be

[jagged gust]

Marry that girl, "babe I want to be your forever dealer <3"

[lusty grotto]

[strong forum]

Simple rule is tho, if she cheats with you on someone else, the same will happen to you

[warm plinth]

Cheaters are just people who don't have the balls to break up with people or to say they're poly/enm going in

[lusty grotto]

yeah thats

generally very true

[jagged gust]

My friend stopped talking to me after trying to stop her from cheating on her gf.... again

those people are lost causes fr

[strong forum]

Automod exposing me to other SFs and mods...

Im ngmi

[lusty grotto]

lmaooo

[strong forum]

I didn't say anything bad

Just a filtered word

Unlugg

[lusty tiger]

I want a woman who will hurt me physically instead of mentally

[lusty grotto]

vel let us shame him

oh shit i can emoji too

[strong forum]

Once the reaction is up

Everybody can click on it

[lusty grotto]

[cinder storm]

Why not both?

[lusty tiger]

a guy can only take so much

[cinder storm]

Fair

Just find one with Daddy issues, then it's 50/50 how she'll hurt you

[lusty tiger]

bad coin flip

[strong forum]

I wonder when prot will actually remain on topic more again

[jagged pier]

When its not boring to play

[lusty grotto]

did you miss all the bears making prot alts today

[lusty tiger]

do the mods get alerted when a filtered word gets blocked?

[strong forum]

Yessir

[lusty tiger]

🤣

gg

[blazing dune]

If you're asking if we saw your camgirl post, we did

[strong forum]

There no hiding from the machine 🔫

[cinder storm]

Sniped

[lusty grotto]

wait

[lusty tiger]

hey u forgot to add the context

[lusty grotto]

i drop the f bomb a lot

am i... on file

[strong forum]

Fuck is fine

[jagged gust]

So if we all start casually using filtered words out of context we can spam the mods? Sounds like we found a way to cheat the system

[strong forum]

It ain't that strict

Well

[lusty grotto]

😮

[strong forum]

That'll just get you timed out or eventually removed rq

[blazing condor]

i was gonna write "spike" but accidentally missed the e and it got blocked 😦

thought i was banned for a sec

[lusty tiger]

[waxen frigate]

Oop

[lusty grotto]

LOL

[strong forum]

Fairly certain that context gets understood rather quickly

[cinder storm]

That's one word I've long forgotten it's meaning

[lusty tiger]

[strong forum]

I know it's a bad word

[blazing condor]

hope so, but it still got blocked

[strong forum]

But uh also forgor why

[jagged gust]

Hispanic slur americans use i think

[blazing condor]

i mean its a slur for hispanics

[lusty tiger]

watch the bad new bears trailer

[strong forum]

Ic

[lusty grotto]

OH

did you say the s word

[blazing condor]

i said spike

[strong forum]

He typod

[lusty grotto]

that ends with c

[blazing condor]

[lusty grotto]

O

[lusty tiger]

[strong forum]

S that ends with C huh

Dafuq

[blazing condor]

succ

[lusty grotto]

wait spike is a slur

[lusty tiger]

sec c

[blazing condor]

no

spike minus e is

[strong forum]

No, spike without the e

[blazing condor]

according to the auto mod

[lusty grotto]

ok so what im saying

[final mist]

It's nice to see that as much as things change, they really stay the same

[lusty grotto]

i thought it ended with c

not k

[lusty tiger]

oof

bad time

[strong forum]

xd

[cinder storm]

I see now, I hail from dota so instead of that we just say -fucking Peruvian-, it generalizes the meaning (pls don't ban)

[jagged gust]

it does, but also its an american slur so don't expect a racist to know how to spell

[blazing condor]

[lusty tiger]

this place outta control

[lusty grotto]

well

[blazing condor]

we're meant to protecc

[lusty grotto]

im hispanic

[lusty tiger]

!

jeebus

[blazing dune]

lol

[lusty grotto]

we dont really care lol

[strong forum]

Is it? I think it was just informative

[lusty tiger]

nah im jk

[lusty grotto]

but we will get pissed if you dare say latinx

[cinder storm]

Preach

[strong forum]

Based

[jagged gust]

Dude I cringe whenever I see latinx spoken on tv

[blazing condor]

you know damn well its usually not the target audience that gets upset about slurs

[lusty tiger]

the whole language of spanish makes the idea of the term "latinx" a joke

[jagged gust]

I dont even know how it's supposed to be spoken, latin-X? Latinks?

[strong forum]

Jeree...

[lusty grotto]

well hes not wrong

[wind oak]

wasnt fuck filtered at first ?

[strong forum]

At first yes

[wind oak]

imagine when we spam fuck TOM in Arms channel

[blazing condor]

tuck frump

[strong forum]

Tom owns

[blazing dune]

It's discords own automod filter, it's not a list we've curated, so it needs a bit of reiteration

[lusty tiger]

Tom Waits

[jagged gust]

A voice of gravel and molasses

[lusty tiger]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXmfoC65tKU

[lusty grotto]

at least in my circles we pronounce it "latin-ecks"

so the first one

[strong forum]

Latinks sounds insanely racist

[blazing condor]

great album

[lusty tiger]

omg i love u

[lusty grotto]

there's just better words to describe genderless in spanish

[blazing condor]

[lusty grotto]

or gender neutral whatever

[jagged gust]

Tom Waits has the only christmas song I enjoy playing

[lusty tiger]

the fall of troy- tom waits > tom waits- the fall of troy

[cinder storm]

Thing is, Spanish is considered a love language, there's a male-female word for almost everything

[lusty tiger]

that's what i was sayin

[lusty grotto]

correct

anything latin based is like that

[cinder storm]

Yes

[lusty tiger]

except english

[jagged gust]

wait does love language = gendered? Ive never made that connection before

[strong forum]

That's not the main takeaway to draw here

[lusty grotto]

anglosaxon languages typically dont have gendered nouns

[lusty tiger]

ah

[strong forum]

Is that expression even right what I said

Sounds off

[cinder storm]

-typically-

[lusty grotto]

yes probably the only one

[jagged gust]

I mean we're just regurgitating reddit rhetoric for the most part, this is the only thing I've managed to learn from this convo

[lusty grotto]

die der

[blazing condor]

isnt german germanic? or does that count as anglosaxon

[cinder storm]

Die Bart die?

[lusty grotto]

hmm

its been a while

i took german in college

[strong forum]

Reddit ❌

[lusty grotto]

im trying to think if any asian languages also have gendered nouns

i dont think they do

or am i wrong?

[final mist]

Anglo-Saxon (or Old English) is a germanic language

[blazing condor]

yeah youre right

thanks

[lusty grotto]

russian is cyrillic (sp) right?

i cant remember the word lol

we're good here 🙂

[blazing condor]

how much is 10% vers in russian?

[lusty grotto]

for now

[blazing condor]

also is it gendered

[lusty grotto]

until we get a question

thanks dog!

[final mist]

THe language itself descends from slavic languages out of the general indo-european ancestor languages, cyrillic is the alphabet system

[lusty grotto]

OH

yeah that's right

spanish should also have a lot of arabic influence due to spain and their arabic neighbors

like way more than we think

its very interesting

[lusty tiger]

one thousand spanish nights

[lusty grotto]

im kinda curious where English decided to stop using gendered nouns now though

and/or when

or how did it branch out to be more neutral

[lusty tiger]

it is a language of context

[lusty grotto]

well thats true

[lusty tiger]

so it's kinda more for the listener to decide i guess

[lusty grotto]

yeah but i mean historically

ah

would make sense

sort of as an evolution

[lusty tiger]

all i know about german is that the words have like 50% more syllables than in english

[final mist]

Around the time of contact between Old English and Old Norse

~1200

Give or take some years

[lusty tiger]

ah so like when nim was born

[lusty grotto]

interesting

no im older than that lol

😄

[lusty tiger]

xD

nim is a vampire i guess

[final mist]

Yes, they're both germanic languages

West germanic, to be specific

But the split happened probably sometime between 500 BCE and 500 CE

Out of whatever proto-west germanic language was in usage at the time

Which became languages like English, Dutch, the german languages, etc, through several other languages until we get to today

[lusty tiger]

[final mist]

It's very muddied because all of the regional germanic languages are somewhat intelligible with each other, with some of them not becoming super distinct from each other until like

500 CE

[strong forum]

I sometimes can

[final mist]

So you have people living in Norway who could have half-conversations with people in southern germany

Up before that point

[strong forum]

Atleast a butchered Swiss German accent

[final mist]

After that is where the germanic languages all start to become super distinct

[strong forum]

I like talking in accents

Is funi

[lusty grotto]

i guess it mirrors latin american spanish, except in their case, the differences are less pronounced, so what happened to germanic languages then could be happening to every spanish jargon etc right now

[strong forum]

I can even talk in a specific German accent, in english

Very funny to do

[pallid quiver]

damn i missed the bulk of the language history conversation

[jagged gust]

https://tenor.com/view/swedish-chef-muppets-muppet-show-borg-gif-22720887

[strong forum]

That sounds like a lot of K sounds

[lusty tiger]

i s2g i had a raidlead that spoke like this and it sounded like he was doing an english impersonation of a german accent

[strong forum]

But that's proper Swiss German, not just an accent

Whenever people tell me "bro talk in German" I sound like the most fake German

Cuz I do the "ooh ja schnitzel"

In the most flamboyant accent

[pallid quiver]

Power move

[last mason]

how fast is it to level rn

with timewalking and that timeways buff

would buying a lvling boost be a waste

[strong forum]

I leveled from 51 to 70 in like what

6hrs?

Maybe less

Depending how quickly you clear dungeons and or get into queues

[jagged gust]

I think 1-60 took me like 3 or so hours

60 70 feels like a real slog tho

Like 2-3 dungeons per level, gross

[strong forum]

Ye I made like 2 levels at 51 in 1 dungeon

69 to 70 is like 3 or 4

I think

Didn't rly pay attention

Just pressed buttons

[jagged gust]

If you're the kind of person who can put on a playlist and turn off their brains its probably a fun time

[strong forum]

Well I was also making my UI from scratch and learning both enha and resto at the same time

The UI part really made it more fun

[jagged gust]

I have adhd tho so after like 2 dungeons I already have 3 browsers open and bg3 in the background and im baking a cake or something simultaneously

so 60-70 takes me a week or two every time

[strong forum]

I hyperfocus

And Power through

Cba boosting

TW is good enough

Now with the bug fixes it looks alot better ye

[jagged gust]

Imma stack vers and def stance with our new set and just sleep through weekly 18s, gonna be nice

[strong forum]

Now we actually don't lose dmg from the tierset

[lusty grotto]

it is very fast right now

from 60 i run the 5 tw dungeons and then just quest

[strong forum]

Not as fast as SL, but pretty fast ye

Oh you mean leveling

[lusty grotto]

for the event buff i mean

[strong forum]

Event buff?

[jagged gust]

how does DR work? Like 15% from vers then 20% from stance and... 16?% from set, I don't know the math behind stacking reductions

[lusty grotto]

yeah the uhh

turbulent timeways

[strong forum]

Stacking % reductions functions multiplicatively like basic math

You can't reach 100% DR

Just really close to it, but never to 100%

[lusty grotto]

asymptote

[jagged gust]

Good ol' tan function

So stacks multiplicatively, good to a certain point then inherently worse afterwards but probably not worth the effort to math it out because DR is still DR?

aside from the idea that another stat scales better due to another form of DR like parry

[waxen frigate]

stack stam

[pallid quiver]

I'm not sure what specifically you said here, but basically, every time you stack a DR, you're getting less out of it as conpared to them being spaced out

[cinder storm]

Isn't the max DR like 60% or something like that?

Or like second dr is halved, idk my memory is wonky

[jagged gust]

That would sort of be the case if every DR is applied after the previous calculation is done, 100 gets reduced by 20% to 80, then another 20% reduction would only be 16 so a 20% "loss"

As an aside that's actually how most calculations are done in TFT regarding arpen

[lusty tiger]

@strong forum

😅guess my old RL didn’t appreciate that

[strong forum]

Kek

[waxen frigate]

leech enchants on prot: value or nah

[dusky canopy]

@waxen frigate

do you know if theres a way to despawn Black Ox statue with a macro

my guild mate is trying to figure it out

[lusty grotto]

wow nish ghosting

tsk tsk

[dusky canopy]

Good evening Nim!

[lusty grotto]

yo

[frigid spire]

y'all think the prot warrior meta will come back in 10.2?

[lusty grotto]

no

but we're not mdi champs or streamers so take that as you will

[dusky canopy]

Prot war is always meta

wym?

[lusty grotto]

in our hearts

[pallid quiver]

Depends on if streamers and pipular people say it's good or meta

That's literally all it takes to be meta

[frigid spire]

hmmm well its prot warrior or bear for me

[lusty grotto]

try bdk

or vdh/brew

[waxen frigate]

why

[lusty grotto]

if youre chasing meta

brew i think nish was asking you

[dusky canopy]

i dont know the brm in my guild is wanting to do it on sark prog

in p3

idk why

[waxen frigate]

no i was setting up a dumb joke

[lusty grotto]

dn

[waxen frigate]

oh

[lusty grotto]

set up dn

[waxen frigate]

i didnt even see this

no i have no idea

[waxen frigate]

hes prob pulling the adds at the start of the phase with it

just tell him to taunt

4head

[modern gazelle]

why does mythic mag hurt so much lol wtf

i can live it but like i swear i take so much damage during the fight for no reason

[urban portal]

Check some logs

[lavish sphinx]

Prot Warr is hidden meta

[bleak breach]

You running def stance for it at all?

[chilly brook]

Who cares what meta is?

just play the class you want to play and play it well

most of these bozos playing meta are bad players anyways and aren't even benefitting

[chilly brook]

I thought people said the dot wasn't bad?

idk I don't tank raid

[bleak breach]

Everything is bad in mythic

@modern gazelle try to SR every molten spittle and Shield wall the ones you can’t.

[onyx hearth]

Is prot right now hard to play compared to the other tanks?

[bleak breach]

No

[chilly brook]

I mean yes?

[bleak breach]

Just not performing as well defensively as some without def stance

But then in def stance lacks damage

[onyx hearth]

I've seen some logs with very high CPM and got worried

[chilly brook]

it's certainly more difficult than any other tank rn

the degree to which is arguable

[bleak breach]

I wouldn’t say playstyle is hard, we’ve just got a low health pool and suck vs magic.

[onyx hearth]

Does prot have button bloat?

[chilly brook]

not imo

[bleak breach]

Hit shield slam and thunder clap off cd, shield block off cd and IP whenever you have enough rage. Defensives when required. Then have some offensive cds.

[chilly brook]

looking at logs, molten spittle is not hitting hard at all

150k avg

bro also isn't going into defensive stance until like the last half of the fight

pretty sure you'd want to alternate SW/Spell Block on Incinerating Maws

[violet flume]

protwar has few buttons but they spam a lot cause of ignore pain

id say brewmaster is the most complex tank by far

protwar pretty simple but simplest would be dk?

[onyx hearth]

looking at zaqali logs

87 cpm is very high

[violet flume]

yeah its mostly just ignore pain spam to not cap rage

im surprised DH has more cpm though

[pallid quiver]

Yeah, after Banner and if they had changes I don't know in DF since I kn ow jack shit about DH, both their specs are usually higher CPM than Prot War iirc

[onyx hearth]

magmorax log

[violet flume]

i wouldnt worry too much about it, just play it and get a feeling for it

youll get in the zone of using ignore pain near 100 rage

[bleak breach]

Yep

You’re mostly spamming 2 buttons

Ignore pain and shield slam

Shield block and thunder clap when they’re off cd, then you have a few random buttons to use. Not much to it.

[vital oak]

Also, revenge.

[bleak breach]

Revenge sucks, most of the time you’re better off using IP instead unless you get a proc or in a heavy aoe situation/running the talent for it.

[chilly brook]

??

[pallid quiver]

Real bad take; Revenge resets SS and gets you more rage

[vital oak]

revenge can proc your ss to be back up, it's worth it.

[chilly brook]

tf

[pallid quiver]

On top of that, you press both

[chilly brook]

https://tenor.com/view/omw-to-spread-misinformation-all-over-the-internet-gif-26525511

[vital oak]

better than letting a global go unused.

[chilly brook]

spamming IP hurts your rage economy

use it as needed

use revenge otherwise

[bleak breach]

What are you talking though @chilly brook

[chilly brook]

wdym

[bleak breach]

High end content you can’t keep IP up enough as is

[chilly brook]

less revenge means less shield slams

[pallid quiver]

If you spam IP, you get less IP

[chilly brook]

[pallid quiver]

like, that's literally how it is

[chilly brook]

IP is something you press

you don't "keep it up"

it's not shield block

[bleak breach]

Yes you can…

[vital oak]

You only IP when you're gonna cap rage otherwise.

Maybe you CAN keep ip up all the time but it's not needed and is detrimental to your overall damage AND mitigation.

[chilly brook]

I wouldn't go that far

but it's not something you try to have 100% up time on

[bleak breach]

Depends what you’re doing

[chilly brook]

you just press buttons to generate more rage, and more shield slams and spend rage accordingly

[chilly brook]

no it doesn't

[pallid quiver]

Literally never does; like I said, over sending on IP gives you less IP throughout an encounter or an instance

you get less rage

[bleak breach]

While face tanking a boss I rarely use revenge, obviously yes it does need to be used, but any boss with a dot in mythic level you’ll struggle to keep IP up at all.

[chilly brook]

it's not necessary

you don't need to keep it up

[vital oak]

Spending rage gets your avatar and shield wall back up faster. You want to both earn and spend as much rage as possible, as quickly as possible. Shield wall is better to have up than IP. Letting a global fall vacant because of rage starvation because you put it all into IP is bad.

[chilly brook]

and this is irrelevant anyways because you should have enough rage to press BOTH

[bleak breach]

I’m not saying don’t use revenge, I just use sparingly. If I’m not actively tanking the boss or in aoe I obviously use as much as possible, but while actively tanking I prioritise ip

[vital oak]

above an empty global?

[pallid quiver]

So would you say Forgotten Experiments is one of those dot heavy fights?

[vital oak]

I mean, sure SS>TC>Revenge but always hit something.

[bleak breach]

Absolutely it is

[pallid quiver]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/DHYXATJry8P9paRV#fight=8&type=casts&source=17

I wonder why Jakey's pressing so much Revenge while actively tanking, then

[chilly brook]

Bro literally said to send Shield Wall on Molten Spittle....

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-me-purposefully-spreading-misinformation-on-the-internet-teddy-bear-typing-misinformation-on-the-internet-gif-27679617

[bleak breach]

Why not?

What is your issue man? I’m trying to help, can check my numbers if you like. They stack up with anyone’s.

[bleak breach]

Not what I said, I never have SS off cd and only use SS over TC, revenge is used between the others and IP if I have spare rage and nothing up.

[vital oak]

Your earlier statments implied that if you had the choice between hitting IP while leaving an empty global and using revenge you would hit IP.

[bleak breach]

No idea who Jakey is but again, not saying don’t use it. I’m saying I prioritise IP over revenge. Unless I have nothing else up and spare rage.

[bleak breach]

I said nothing about skipping SS or TC, I would use IP over revenge while tanking a boss directly.

[vital oak]

That right there is the misinformation. One should hit revenge over ip if the ip will leave you without enough rage to use an attack on any specific global.

As Griff has said, ideally you hit both but you need to get ss back up if it's on cd and revenge does that for you.

[pallid quiver]

People are getting on you because it directly hurts your IP usage to do that; here's a 442 log of you (I assume) and Jakey, on the same fight, with him pressing more than double your revenges and getting more IPs out overall as a result:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hwTrm8vVLaZ2jMxR#fight=last&type=casts&source=4&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24healing%240%240.0.0.Any%24154414189.0.0.Warrior%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24190456

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TBa9cZrQw8MVG4Wk#fight=23&type=casts&source=23&pins=0%24Separate%24%23244F4B%24healing%240%240.0.0.Any%24177784984.0.0.Warrior%24true%240.0.0.Any%24false%24190456

He's getting more value out of not just IP, like the top graph shows, but is also getting I think it was double the Indomitable healing

Since Revenge lets you send more rage

[urban portal]

receipts coming out

[pallid quiver]

Due to getting you more rage

[urban portal]

sheesh

[pallid quiver]

I'm having trouble deciding what game to play

so I have spare time while thinking if I want to play WoW or finish Samurai Remnant

[urban portal]

im assuming cyber is done?

and so is baldurs?

play starfield

or payday 3

[vital oak]

bg3 was fire

[pallid quiver]

i don't own cyberpunk and I'm not feeling Baldur's Gate atm (I got it in Early Access)

[vital oak]

It's old but I just ran through Hades again, was worth it as well.

[urban portal]

back on topic, revenge is looking kinda op

[pallid quiver]

Ooh, that one's tempting

[urban portal]

hades is decent

its definitely a very approchable roguelike

but 37 heat is still as hard as any other roguelike

[vital oak]

best roguelite music as well 🙂

[pallid quiver]

my go to roguelike is ADOM, on average

[urban portal]

slay the spire is still a hood classic

[pallid quiver]

gotta play those games that have been in dev for like 30 years, y'know

[urban portal]

one of the greateest indies of all time

[pallid quiver]

Slay the Spire is unplayable without the googly eyes mod

[urban portal]

real

[bleak breach]

What? SS and TC generate rage, not use it…

[vital oak]

Right, which is why the choice is between revenge, which spends rage and IP, which also spends rage.

revenge will EARN you rage in the end by bringing SS back up faster. IP will not.

[urban portal]

prot warrior has possibly the most resource managment of any tank

except maybe blood

but idk blood

[vital oak]

I think blood dk has more

[urban portal]

idk i see a lot of bloods just send DS to not cap

[vital oak]

Yeah, but standing in DnD all the time (or consecration) sucks.

[chilly brook]

tanks shouldn't have to soak it to begin with

but if you are

it's not that big of a deal

[bleak breach]

Most groups stack under boss for it so you do take it.

But I do apologise, I had the wrong name, was thinking searing maws the tank debuff.

[chilly brook]

yes incinerating maw

[vital oak]

Spell reflect should be up for every cast.

[chilly brook]

when you do soak the small soak if you do it should be the tank who isn't tanking actively at the time

[bleak breach]

Depends, if there’s one next to the boss I’ll happily soak and use a cd or just pop def stance for 2 secs. No you shouldn’t move at all for it though.

[chilly brook]

the large puddles are diff

usually melee/tanks

[bleak breach]

I am very aware

[bleak breach]

I understand what you’re saying, yes I can use revenge more, I believe I also misworded or what I said was taken incorrectly. Obviously I use it or I wouldn’t have the numbers I have, it’s something to work at but you’re comparing my worst log for that fight where I did 3 times in total (my fault) but skews the stats a lot.

[ionic fern]

Oh boy, IP vs Revenge debate.

Who's winning?

[bleak breach]

The internet

[chilly brook]

I mean you're 30k dps below the top logs on Kazzara

that's not a heavy dot fight tbh

[pallid quiver]

no one

[vital oak]

Not sure any minds were changed so ?

[bleak breach]

Oh nooooo

[chilly brook]

the damage taken difference isn't massive either

just press more revenge

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bleak breach]

30k what difference?

[chilly brook]

DPS

damage per second

dealt to the boss

[vital oak]

Perhaps he doesn't think tank dps makes a difference?

[chilly brook]

I'm not sure what other numbers he was referring to then

[ionic fern]

If he wants to play Prot that way, w/e. It's not optimal, but at the end of the day it's up to him wether he wants to improve in this way or not.

[vital oak]

Yup, it has been a friendlyish conversation. No one's being held to the fire.

[bleak breach]

@chilly brook wrong

[ionic fern]

Ah, okay.

[bleak breach]

My top pull is 14 k below

I also used revenge more then he did, bear in mind my fight lasted 30sec longer

But thanks for the false info on that one

[chilly brook]

you know what you're right I don't know how I got the numbers mixed up but I did

still not an insignificant damage difference

[bleak breach]

I definitely think tank damage makes a difference.

[vital oak]

Didn't know what your "30k what difference" comment was about. That's why it was a question.

[chilly brook]

idk playing league in between convos

[bleak breach]

I’m sorry, my 83k which is still a top 40 parse for the fight at 5 lower ilvl is bad

[vital oak]

League is evil. I can't ever stop it seems. Either I win and can't stop on a win, or lose and can't stop on a loss. I dunno what to do so I stay away.

[chilly brook]

I didn't say bad

I said the difference is not insignificant

[bleak breach]

Go and do better, if I had the 5 higher ilvl maybe it makes the difference.

You’re criticising a lot for a guy who said they don’t even raid…

[chilly brook]

the damage difference literally comes down to him pressing execute more

[chilly brook]

I didn't say I don't raid

[bleak breach]

And 5 ilvl

[chilly brook]

I just don't raid tank anymore

[vital oak]

In the end, the whole conversation started because the general concensus of prot is to hit revenge if you have a global with both ss and tc on cd EVEN IF it will prevent you from pressing IP.

[chilly brook]

he spent rage on damage abilities

you overspent on IP

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[bleak breach]

Which I countered here as he said I hit revenge less then this guy, which I did not.

[vital oak]

Which means that you ARE pressing revenge on every appropriate gcd...

[ionic fern]

Gimme logs

I also wanna see.

[vital oak]

There were some linked earlier, 1 from jake and 1 other that I assume is Sokraxx.

[bleak breach]

Kawhi

Crap

Auto correct

@ionic fern

[ionic fern]

Yes..?

[bleak breach]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/dathremar/sokraxx

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/GWF8mgAhHTR4Dfxv#fight=6&type=damage-done&source=5

[urban portal]

Compared to yours or jakes

[bleak breach]

Sorry, meant to link specific fight

He was comparing my top Kazz pull to the top overall

[chilly brook]

best I can offer you is this compared to your best heroic https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/W9Mg2bTQn1VLxkXj#fight=3&type=damage-done&source=2

[bleak breach]

@urban portal

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/vkXBzKLqagJC4rTW#fight=50&type=damage-done

He hasn’t done mythic Kazz in a while it doesn’t seem, so not a great comparison

[lucid holly]

For a brief moment in time, I took the top spot back. Until cheek and pika fill in their last key. I’m mostly done for the week and will do only PTR now but it was fun while it lasted!

[bleak breach]

Fight is nearly 50 sec faster, hard comparison.

[vital oak]

That's a lot of M+. Conga Rats.

[pallid quiver]

Des still hogging two spots

absolute champ behavior

[lucid holly]

Horde and alliance lol

[pallid quiver]

I think it was the same char when he posted

[chilly brook]

was just saying it's the best I can offer you lol

[bleak breach]

I assume that’s you?

[chilly brook]

yes and it's a 14 second difference between your heroic and my heroic wasn't reeally making a heroic to mythic comparison

[bleak breach]

16 sec, I must’ve looked at wrong fight lol. Definitely good damage though.

[ionic fern]

Bros flexing with beacons / WFs here

Wtf

[bleak breach]

The extra 2k is in the beacon

1.68m vs 1.3M

[pallid quiver]

conversation's gotten weird since i started pugging over here

[ionic fern]

I also lost track,but i got a meeting now.

[pallid quiver]

My condolences, Mwahi

here's hoping is an actually useful meeting

That was worth your time

it probably isn't tho ;-;

[bleak breach]

Definitely will take on board trying to get more revenge out though.

[vital oak]

It's actually less about you as you seem to be doing well. It's more about the new guy asking questions who is still putting everything together.

[bleak breach]

I agree, but also in comparison with these fights my dtps and hps is much better, kind of a win win either way and depends on capabilities of your group.

I.e if my group Hps was up, I’d pump more into rev/execute but I generally burn more into IP because it’s not.

But I do see what you’re getting at.

[potent anvil]

I can't keep up with BTM. My warr is too fresh. You guys own.

[ionic fern]

Where them EU prot warriors.

[vital oak]

I hear EU doesn't like rankings unless they're worldwide.

[bleak breach]

What’s the points next to it? I assume these guys are higher then 2.2k lol not judging, I’ve just never seen that sort of chart so wondering what it means.

[potent anvil]

Kinda free to win EU BTM pwarr

[ionic fern]

Smh.

Fine.

I'll do it.

[pallid quiver]

mwahi here to save the eu world

[ionic fern]

What does BTM even require? 5 people to play non meta specs?

[potent anvil]

Register on r.io, and yeah

[ionic fern]

Damn

I don't have 4 friends.

[vital oak]

They list the "acceptable" stuff.

[potent anvil]

It's individually tracked, so you can register and the other 4 are w/e, as long as they are eligible specs.

[pallid quiver]

5 prot war keys, mwahi, it's the only way

[jagged pier]

That would actually be funny

[ionic fern]

Eh, what?
But i still need to do keys with specific classes?

[potent anvil]

I pugged my keys, but Plka and Cheeklord playing in a stacked group

[ionic fern]

E.g..i register as prot warr and just pug keys and invite the "acepted" specs?

[pallid quiver]

Yep

[vital oak]

Yar

[ionic fern]

Do the other people i invite also need to be registered?

[potent anvil]

Yeah. So like, if the other 4 didn't register, you can still participate if you did. And everyone's an eligible spec.

[pallid quiver]

No, iirc

[vital oak]

nope

[ionic fern]

Oh, cool.

[pallid quiver]

So you can literally make an H Pal go nuts wondering why they're not getting accepted into a key or something

[ionic fern]

Do they pay me 500k gold if i win it?

[potent anvil]

60 days of wow game time