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Then use anvil + scale
Scale is good, but call to chaos is overbudgeted as fuck
That trinket is on average 30% better than other stat proc trinkets
@strong forum what would you use for M+ from this poor trinket selection?
But scale is super solid
Grapnel + Mark
You can also use vial for a bit more aoe over ST dmg
But grapnel is your best trinket in there
And signoll flare is bad
Thanks!
so anvil is that good?the thing is my anvil and beacon are 441
kinda wanted to get rid of em
Anvil is the best dmg trinket in the game
It shits on everything if you can maintain the 5 stacks
(which isn't all too hard, just takes a small bit of practice)
In my best run I think anvil did like 7k dps by itself
Which is absolutely disgusting dps from a trinket that also has mainstat instead of a secondary stat and it's Single target dps and not just aoe pad
i love the haste on sunglass too
still we should gem and enchant for haste right? when i got sunglass i gemed for crit70 haste 33
Tips for forgotten experiments mythic? Seems crazy difficult for prot warr compared to my bdk cotank
Also a great trinket in place of scale or call to chaos
But anvil is by far and large your best first trinket
If you absolutely don't want to then you can obv just play scale + sunglass
But optimally it's anvil + stat proc trinket/beacon
thanks
Can you put anvil in a number that is easy to comprehend in comparision to "the rest"?
Are we talking 100% or is it 10%, like, explain to me in dummy terms ๐
Its a raid trinket, ugh. Hard to farm for me ๐ฆ
buuuuuut, if its like having 2 trinkets in 1 slot, obvs, i would have to consider getting it somehow ๐
Anvil drops from the 2nd boss
Hc is plenty good enough
And 5 stack anvil in m+ is a good... 20-30% better than others
Maybe more
Sims don't reflect that well because it starts at 0 stacks and basic Sims aren't 30min long
Yeah take like two or three stacks and let your cotank do the rest lol
Also attack speed slows like rogue poison, warlock curse and dk ice thingy
probably going to buy that because of general appearance, possible rp like sets
i want the fist weapon too, but for that to be optimal mog makes me farm out a rare spawn in maldraxus
It's called sandglass you dorks
looks like sunglass to me
math baby
I'm so excited. Have you posted any videos yet?
Well played
@potent anvil
What lvl m+ are you running for those numbers and do you have set routes?
These are just crest keys. BH 19, missed 3 chest.
Next week. Gonna try BTM as prot warr
I'm hyped!
Probably be around 442 before reset. Hopefully
Break the Meta event from RIO
Ahhhhh
Its where idiot non fotm rerollers like us get invites into +11 keys
+15 keys*
My record to beat is 168k without aug
Also 442 ilvl
Get workin!
nono you cant complete +15 without exodia. Cmon man start thinking
My trinkets arent ideal either. Signoll and heart of thunder.
Need to do heroic clear and hope for beacon anvil

im doing it as well, either as arms or on my holy priest

Heart of thunder isn't terrible
But yeh it ain't no anvil
Cant just be posting gore without a warning
yes
youre stupid
do not drop battering ram
drop something else
SoF
is droppable to get TL
ideally bloodsurge
but if youre already dropping bloodsurge for spell block... the preferable choice is SoF
exodia
mods, crush his skull
Any tier first-look tier list for S3 trinkets out there?
Been doing that since start of tier. No dice.

whats the damage of the spikes embelishment vs shadow flame armour patch?
i wonder if there will be an item to up evoker legendary in next patch like they did with sylvanas bow
not even remotely close
even in m+?
thanks
so yeah whether its keys or raid, it doesnt matter
2x patch or 1x patch with unstable frostfire belt
Someone stole my ubereats because it was a blackout and I fell asleep for 45 min... omg...
Lmao
Yeh, because i told them to just check the security camera... But no electricty during the blackout so someone took their chance xD
Its ok, rappi had service still so having tacos inroute ๐
Not even close boys
xpearl we in wrath?
good lord youre right its bartender
A lot of people still use bartender though.
Isnt bartender still in the elvui package
Not that I'm aware of; elvui has their own bars
hating on bartender 
im not i like it very good for just dealing with bars
Spell reflect hard carrying
yeah haha
i did a 25 with fandy the other day and we had like 4 minutes to spare
these guys were just pain
thats alot on NL
yeah i really love the dungeon
is prot looking good for m+ next season? Looking to main s3
can tell haha
it will be fine
but not the best
for NL
same same
makes my day
feels really good to carry a fight thats hard
yeah lol
VP isnt even prot tho tbf
i try to run with resto druids
just warrior in general
got me playing mario on leaping into peoples circles with reflect on last boss
you get to reflect everything
i literally grabbed intevene so i can get to people who are erratic when they run
yeah
lmfaoooo
then me going after that circle on prot
imagine never having a prot tank this season in a team setting
and your tank just like "ok guys when you get this mechanic, run on me"
lmfao
yeah i tell people to run to me and no one does
i tell em to not run from me and they do
my guild kicks first boss reflects on me as a prank ;-;
lolol
Hm. I spent too much time lazying about in WoW playing weeb games this week. It's hard to find a Heroic pug that can get past the brick wall of a raid boss that is, uh, kazzara
u need to pug reset day otherwise its gaga
ye
It's a shame, since I usually work reset day
but damn, they can usually at least get past the first boss
It's honestly impressive
i got curve now at least but im still 7/9 cus cant find a pug that could clear zskarn
feels bad not being full cleared
Isnt zskarn just a punching bag in h
mm, not really. It's easy for the tank; just have to move for the fire. But other people still gotta kill golems and disarm traps
i also got flamed first time doing it cus apparently i was moving the boss wrong but i just went around the circle so idk
isnt the strat just literally stand > wait for trap > move
then move away for big fire
I've only tanked him once on heroic but I just kept him on one side then moved him to the other side
when fire happened
idk why it would need to be more complicated than that
People will blame you for the most random shit in pugs since they usually have 0 idea what's going on
i kinda did wing the fight though cus i had never done it and watched the vid p much as i did it
"omg kick these shit heals"
boss the healer got killed by a dps kiting a laser on him first and second wave
none needed 
It's hard out here guys
tyrann neltharus not too fun for healers tho lol
Ask Luigi how Mario is doing and why he isn't returning my calls
hes in another castle
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After all the wait time, I don't thinkw e're completing this key 
sadge

i gotta do a uldaman
top tier feral damage tbh
but i really cba
that's chargath
the hate for uldaman is flowing through me
i dont even care about io
this late into the patch its w/e
just wanna get my last crests so i can have some gear
So you can replace it all "faster" in a few weeks
exactly
my friend gave me 50k so i can at least afford crafts now. so might as well

If i dont get day 2 curve again im gonna be madge. Need ilvl
G2G is 500k for 20 bucks
Or 150 for 6
Depending on server ofcourse. A friend always buys on kazzak those are his prices
reported for marketing !!!

Marketing someone elses product i dont profit from. I turned into an instagram model
It did not make it 
wiped like 4 times to Chargath
this was the overall when we disbanded
I adore my assa rogue
Not as much as pistol guy but the flair is just on point
Also Legy daggers > mage towers
I have a friend who mains sin and he blasts on it. But then, he blasts on everything.
Assa on pure ST isnt to bad
AOE is the real problem
Best Assa is ahead of best sub on kazz for example
where warrior?!?
Go brag to steve and the gang, the furries xD
Hmm, i cant seem to find him. Wonder if he changed his name. Where the cuddly bear at, you here bro?
@thorn spruce where steve at? And where you at? You never talk to me anymore, feels bad man ๐ฆ
Je Woli, where you at. ๐ฆ
I fucking love cats
I'm pretty sure he's shredding my foot atm
I know he does it out of love though

chromatic essence tops mark of dargrul for m+ right
I'd say so ya.
I think you deserve this ๐.
thanks for believing i'll procreate

man i legit did nothing on wow barely even logged on at all this week
i did like, 2 wq on dk, looted vault, was literal it
I sweated 4 hours a day in M+ on my sham and went from 408 to 445.5. Now im bored again and back to anno. Hopefully 11.0 drops soon cause all the Invasion style wow content is:

You have collected all the hotdogs, yet...
The guys a glizzy goblin for crests
over kill is fucking impossible
not even finale mission of episode 1, and have to kil 4 dudes with homing explosive plasma cannons
Glizzyyyyy ๐
: D
Wich build u guys are using to test war on PTR?
i found the wrist watch youtuber
thats apparently all this guy ever does is vidoes about reviewing and how to set the time on different watches :S :S i didnt expect to be running into this today
Yeah thatโs definitely a channel Iโd imagine you watching
running into *
i watch him yeah
i watched, 26 seconds
of his content, time well spent
If you want another random obscure channel
Geofatboy does videos on razors and shaving supplies
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this is a dude i found many years ago, hes fucking fantastic
is all in the pins
American heritage moment
Damn, ty! Sry
i find this intro to be both amazing but yet slightly terrifying
Looks like the AI generated mountain dew ads
Is it just me or does spell block never do what I actually want it to do?
and what you want it to do? ๐ค
Like it seems to never work
Doesnโt actually block sing target spells thrown at me
dont forget it only enables blocking spells, doesnt block itself
you must have shield block active for 100% chance to block
Do I have to face the spell?
new xpac name leaked:
World of Warcraft Stormbreak
Seems to be a Dwarf themed xpac perhaps
Source?
its nice to use
||spoiler mode||
for spoilers 
they not spoilers though, this is speculation and theory
Oh okay speculation
@strong forum
I think you have to face source of dmg, as with normal block
same but idk fasho
but its best to check in logs whether spell was blocked or not
i mean... i guess... why wouldnt you be facing the spell?
p sure spell block just gives ur normal blocks the ability to also count spells
meaning u cant block in the back
But spell reflect you donโt have to face the spell at all? Thatโs kinda funny tbh
it makes sense
actually i take it back cus the tooltip says u raise ur shield
it doesnt make sense
it is a 360 vr shield

haste or vers alch trinket? sitting at 34% haste atm
Should be time we got a dwarf story right? might be some interesting weapon too inside since this is dwarf we talking about.
Yer it will be a 2 hand strength axe or mace probably if true cause dwarf
cheers mate
made it to final mission of episode one
didnt lose any men so far, didnt think i'd make it so far
we getting a Dwarf Expac next
I believe

oh yeah I mean it is time we should get it, I mean at least so far from MoP to DF dwarf is not really exposed
so it's nice that they will do it
Weren't there rumors that the next expac might be something in Azeroth and using old zones?
I could see like Searing Gorge, Badlands, Burning Steppes in EK and then like Stonetalon, Desolace, Feralas being some good target areas to rework
some cool NE and Dwarf themes
but I guess well find out in a month anyways
we gonna dig through azeroth with the dwarves to find ways to cancel the titans
the titans are gonna cancel the dwarves right back
"magni. found posts of yours from 20 years ago. you said your daughter was too much of a woman to rule Ironforge"
"uh... well... let me just mf uh..." [turns into petrified stone again]
^accurate
lol, just got scammed on 250k
still bit confused why the guy think he'll get away with it when the deal was explicilty agreed upon, ingame and made with gold :S
WTF
So im planing to come back to retail and lvling a tank to focus on m+ and maybe some raiding, is prot warrior viable in s3 and this season?
no you die if anything looks at you even remotely angrily spec can't function dead forever
LOL
what do u mean by viable?
also what lvl of content u looking to do?
crazy how magmorax now (on hc) is just "stand in the same spot and dps"
no mechanics
Bold of you to assume a pug won't demand there to be mechanics in a desperate bid to wipe the raid
There was a time it wasn't?
which is basically all of abberus tbf
i wouldnt know ive just played the patch like 3 weeks. but in the videos they were at least moving him around a little
I really do prefer to DPS most of the time in Aberrus if I'm pugging because I have more control over if a group wipes or not
And playing the game of "how to get the other tank to press a single button for the tank swap" is not a fun game
raid tanking is brain dead
always has been ๐ซ
very very few bosses where you actually need to really do stuff thats specific to the tank-role alone
try living out of the phase on sarc mythic on your own
Idk, I've seen pug tanks doing like 30k DPS, if we can more than double another tanks DPS it's kind of the same as if I took a pug DPS slot
well damage numbers is one thing - im talking more in the sense of actual boss mechanics
doesnt even kill you on hc
protection warrior found in overkill
a dude DCd on zskarn
next pull we wipe
zskarn is still attacking after everyone is dead
and the fight wont end
He needs a bath
any good ?
it is handy
we love ignore pain taking up a trinket slot
and situational
it's garbonzo
yea not great
It's a good trinket
Its just not a useful trinket
Because defensive trinkets are meh
I like the trinket for when doing a key that's a higher level than my norm
Like training wheels
too bad 352k isnt that much to absorb
At hero level it's like 450k
You do you, but your gameplay shouldn't change as key level increases so training wheels really shouldn't be necessary
Yeah just always nervous doing a higher key for the first few times
Based
Honestly pugs have been so draining lately
Bad push weeks good players avoid
I literally have a macro for the healer external defensive
To spam chat for it
Like people are just not very good I feel
Its painfully obvious in the opening pull on NL
The pugs wont wait to get in combat so you cant bop gather
352k is a big absorb idk. It's essentially another (really good) defensive.
on a 1 minute CD
The combination of having to take 700k or so in 18 seconds plus the stronger other trinket options in general make me really value it mega low
I can take that damage so fast your head will spin
I mean like I said, there's no reason to use it because it's unnecessary
But for what it is, it's very good
I'm concerned about that one
And taking 700k damage in a relevant key is not hard
The auto attack on crushers in FH 25s is like 400k pre mit
How much damage do you think Sand Breath does, as an example.
Yeah in dawn that thing is actually not bad
I was mostly concerned about his confidence in damage taken
Because definitely can take 700k in 18 seconds a lot of the time
I just know when and where I'm gonna take a lot of damage
You use it pre pull into a knuckle duster pack
Itll get used I promise
In any case, I should reiterate that I don't think it's something people should use, purely because it shouldn't be needed. But it IS a good trinket for what it is.
I mean there can be an argument if you're pulling absurdly bigger
Big pulls are not really where it finds use.
But you have to actually play dangerously
No? You dont think a triple FH pull would make it beneficial overall
If I used it for anything, I'd use it for like I said, an extra defensive for big hits.
Big pulls usually are a question of proper stops/avoidance, as well as damage to ensure you don't run out of stops
it is handy for circumstances where you have azralon pugs
Like pulling 3 packs instead of 2
Based
If you do a big pull, that absorb is going to get drained giga fast
and that's pointless
because it's being expended on auto attacks, which we take little damage from anyway
Yeah that's the point though, bc you cant do that big a pull with out multi defensives
it is good for if you have to run to get packs and expect back hits and weird positioning for the beginning
another button to smooth that out
Just don't get hit in the back
It's definitely a player preference thing
if you do big keys you get hit in the back because you need to pull massive
To me if I'm giving up mark of dagrul
You can pull massive without getting hit in the back
Getting hit in the back in a big key means you die
I need to make up for the damage elsewhere
Why do you think people finally came to their senses about HR last season
Because that 1-2 second gap of no shield block was causing them to get dropped instantly
Is that the 2 second extension talent?
It's the one that extends SB with shield slam
It was required last season because we didn't play Bolster
I run that and don't run the extension because I really like having disrupting shout
Uhhh
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If you want disrupting shout, just move show of force...why would you drop enduring defenses for that
I personally have found that the last stand can be reset enough to where that talent isnt needed
Let me find a recent log to check my sb up time rq
But I dont think I've ever been below 90
Uptime does not matter. % of blocked hits matter.
Wdym?
i mean while youre running around grouping the mobs
That 2s extension on SB is just an up time buff
up time = percentage you have the aura up
They dont' do less damage while you're gathering mobs. You will still die if you are just letting shit hit you in the back
blocked% = the % of melee hits that hit on the aura
if you have shield block up while youre not taking melee damage u have good uptime but it dont matta
they do... since youre running it is only a melee or two that happens to be chasing close by... it ends up happening to everyone
This is my warrior's recent Freehold key
This is my % of blocked hits
So as you can see, uptime is not the relevant factor here
That goes doubly so in logs where non-combat time is included.
Oh this wasn't actually the recent one lul. This was my trap one back in August 
Sir what was happening in that big ass downtime
same thing applies though
That seems to be a while to do the skip after sharkbait
Pugs don't skip anything after sharkbait sir
and yet
Sure I got hit in the back but with a wipe
Then what were you doing 
Yeah that's because I'm trash
Real, same
Not because I don't have 2s SB extension
Someone check if Nishangy-Stormrage has any logged keys :))
I wanna see how shit I am

what do you mean
Warcraftlogs on mobile 
Idk thereโs just a big gap in the middle
I guess maybe thatโs the gauntlet RP
Oh, probably yeah
Who dis
the log posted up there
lol
and yet...
Once again
I think this is mine?
u dont waste any rage
Than it being an uptime problem
I dropped Shield Block 5 times in my log. You dropped it 25 times.
Both not counting RP
How many hits did I take with it off
This might be the worst log I've ever seen; no wonder you're not 4k
Real

Don't look at the rage wasted
Shit I suck
Don't do it Jakey
no that was the 22 FH
oh
not nish's

Because the discussion wasn't about casts
it should be
Hmmge
I applaud your willingness to look at the shit pile that is mobile WCL
Iโm tryin man
I canโt see shit
i know that feeling, nish
it's some kind of effort trying to help people while I'm at work
sorry raiding so not around but just remeber if somthing looks wrong theres something somewhere going wrong because of how the spec is low casts or too many ip casts not enough rage for SB ergo low uptime etc etc
I am progressing Zskarn mythic atm and would be great to see if anyone has thoughts on how I can improve, think Iโm taking too much dmg https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/z1jdv73McnPXyDtq
Do you guys save shield charge or last stand for opening pull?
I'm noticing most my hits taken without shield blocking is the beginning of a pull
yes cast SS more than TC
I use shield charge and last stand on cd but maybe I should hold it for the start of a pull
dont run bloodsurge in raid
its garbage
run battering ram instead
press cds on cd
u send
unless it comes back with like a few seconds left in the pull
Idk I just pop a defensive for opening pull I dont think I'm gonna save any CDs to make sure shield blocks up during my charge
So I think 61 hits is not unreasonable in FH
The back shots I surely took is room for improvement
Devastate needs to be off gcd, I cant imagine running the original build without it being off gcd
but its passive with autoattacks ๐คทโโ๏ธ
so am i when i play healer
Yeah itd be fun lol
We already have 2 things off gcd
Like who cares
Itd just be nice to have it as an option, instead of it just having 0 synergy with everything
with Forgestorm being the bis for m+ for weapons, how does Shadowed Impact Bickler compare to other crafted gear?
Forgestorm sims for less for my warrior. Did you sim it?
I tested impact buckle extensively
It is beyond dog shit
You can proc it with anything including mounting
You're rarely in a position to maximize its damage
And when you do get a good log it somehow does less dps than tough as nails
It's like 2m damage on a good log
Stick with shadow flame patches since it's good on tyran or fort
Or literally any other embellishment is better
Even the one giving your group vers
ok than you, weird they would implement something so bad
good on paper.....
It's so painful
The aoe it procs is like shorter than revenge range
You can literally miss mobs right next to you
its not, its only bis for ST
you want a 447 crafted or M Amalg weapon for keys
What does impact buckler have to do with forgestorm anyway
i was hoping they'd buff it given how bad it is but nah
i think he was just speculating on aoe damage i guess
if you can have pulls that are 15+ targets the shield can bug out and do insane dmg in 1 proc

like 400k+ with a single proc
i never pulled that high on my prot paladin with it
but i tried it for a very long time
never had anything happen like that even in bracken hide with lashers
ive had mounting proc it many times though and just burn all my stacks
ive not bothered crafting a diff embellish so i been using it all patch
but yeah in BH it can bug out "reliably"
character is a literal rat, speaking of rats, time for rat dk LFR
something with a tail at any rate, maybe a cat? like from elder scrolls
been trying to beat it this week
its hard as balls, iim psat normal raid, now doing heroic raid parth, episode 3 if i recall is mythic raid
Can I press DS on cd and have it up for the second combo of rashok?
Meaning: wall DS wall intermission?
I felt like i need to hold DS after first intermission
So it isnt really press on cd
Is forgestorm worth farming? Or should I just craft 447
Just craft
rat.exe is working

ya, won a belt ill never use too with 99
during avatar, if both SS and TC are available, in AoE, you use TC? (does it change if Earthen Smash is up?)
Godspeed
I can't even imagine just starting to smash into keys this late into a season
that's why i havent touched keys this season
And no, general rotation still prios Shield Slam
Hm ok, is wowhead outdated?
You only consider it if you're in some really big AOE where your rage gen gets mostly fueled by Bloodsurge
Wowhead is maintianed by Llarold, who has to juggle multiple guides and isn't a Prot War specialist. It's by and large accurate last I had checked, but I wager some things slip through
I'd have to see what you mean by it being outdated
Is there another guide you would recommend?
Icy Veins is written by Mwahi, one of the main theory children for Prot War
It's generally my go to for Prot War specifically
When selecting Unstoppable Force, it puts TC above SS
I dunno how many keys I've done, but I went from 419 to 443 since starting last Tueday 
While my DK is sitting at like 1k of those fragments... wish they are boa
If nobody gets to you, I can try to check logs once I'm off work, if I remember, to see the timings on the cast on average. I don't usually raid other than casual pugs, so I don't know off the top of my head.
It's still SS on CD during Unstoppable Force, since you get more rage. That being said, you generally don't have both off CD in Unstoppable very often
Higher than me and I came back like three weeks ago
Only at like 433
I pretty much only hit DotI and Heroic raid
Can't be fussed to deal with the bad pugs this late in; the kind who throw fits over absolutely anything
Yeah.. I just spam underrots the least problematic key for pugs to just hold W
With 4 piece bonus up post last stand SS hits hardert than TC
I feel like FH is easier for pugs
Maybe. I just like speedrunning underrot.
I've been in both of those dungeons once in my life
I'd like to speedrun you
And that was for questing in bfa
We in the 2.8k io club now boys
I mean what
There are only 4 Prot Warr over 3k io on my server lol
Congratulations
Tbf there's only like 7 pwars in the world above 3k
That is... kinda sad
Cut off at what, 3.6k EU now?
Cutoff projections say ~3620
Let's hope the break the meta week will push warrior into the top o.1% bracket 
3640 actually
Well there are some, but less than a handful
As long there is one, who fought off the bear-tide, I say we won
What is that roughly in +keys?
Actually brew also 6
How many bears? 
im suprised its that many vdh's(in comparision), is that class slept on?
VDH was the meta pick for a while,so not really
The contrary
Naowh made vdh a meta pick before bear took over
I bought my first boost, never played arms. I didnt end overall 2nd but not far from it lol.
And that just stuck around
It's 377 bears at 3640 or above
Anyone know what this does
holy shit xD
what keys are you doing at 3600? 30?
Boosting requirements are extremely low
28s
28/29
I noticed. Borderline if we would have timed it without me contributing. Granted, i wasn't some pro arms player, i died quite a lot to avoidable dmg i didnt know about but in terms on raw numbers? I def felt cheated lol
Yeah
Like, when I boosted I avoided most other players
Cuz... They also just suck...
Just because you are allowed to boost doesn't mean you're a good player
I thought different last week lol
Yeah you'd think that when you get paid to run keys for others that they're good
But uh
That ain't the reality of it
Well, they ain't bad. They just not excellent. Then you had the boosted boosters...

Yup
I bought a package of 4 for the vault and i wasnt impressed by a single run. Like you said, it wasnt bad, if it was a pug? I'd be amazed but paying for it? iick... no, i want more imbaness xD
If you're legit just in a weekly boost, you can get any kind of player
Alot of people just buy their vault slots cuz it's quicker/more reliable than finding a pug
But on a weekly level it's basically just a premium pug
Yeh, it kinda feels like pugging early when there's still good groups going on but for this late? Well... I dunno. Its hard for me to gauge as I expected it to be people like you, method, echo etc boosting lol
Alot of the good people also just don't boost weekly keys anymore
The splits ain't worth it
yeah its just not worth the time
Like would you boost a key for 20k gold
all roads lead to token
I sure as shit wouldn't
Bruh
What is it now, 25k? Sad times
I get almost as much just selling augment runes
Nah, specially not when (for me personally) I could just work my regular job an hour an buy a token and not struggle with all of that headache lol
Yeah like I only boosted keys when it's like 150k for a key, then I might think about it
If it's like 20k, just go to your job and afk heal an adventurer in need bonus healer spot
You do you, Freak. But time could be spent doing PuGs, then network with the good players you meet
you get more for level boosting ๐ฎ
Level boosting is even more soul crushing..
true but there you have 3x people paying 100-150k each, taking an hour or two at worst.
Like boosting in itself is already disgustingly boring
thats decent money, no ?
Heh, BFA level boosting, 450k for 15 min per player, with rotating roster... good good gold
If I cared enough, sure maybe
even boosting keys?
Yes
how come?
Boosting is only fun, if the crew is fun. Sadly most boosters are the... quiet or special sort
yeh, thats a fair argument.
Like I already hate my life just doing keys for crests
Now imagine not even getting gear upgrades for it
And just some number in your bag
yeah doing keys that are piss easy is boring as fuck
I have trouble playing for gear in the first place and I'm used to the perpetual poverty life, so I could never imagine boosting
I rather buy tokens than boost keys on end
On top of that, I don't even personally advocate boosting in general; it's just against why I play games
I won't yell at other people for boosting or buying boosts, but it's just weird to me
Same
I've always done random heroic dungeons just because its fun to pull everything and try to be self sufficent, but maybe im weird lol
Not weird, I do it in 20s, to my healers great annoyance
yeh, i tend todo it when the tank bag is up. Used to be easy 5-10k depending on luck.
I don't care enough about gold to think about it like that
Pulling big is fun tho 
Healer Heroic bag is the real strat
Throw down passive heals
Follow tank
Alt tab out
For the longest time I felt like it was bad to buy gold, token or not and resisted for as long as I could but when I came back this time and saw like 27k on my entire b.net account? Drunk me deciided to buy 3 tokens for some reason but im happy he did. Its nice.
Specially having the option.
The real strat is buying tokens, can't get more gold/hr than that
Especially at these token values, insane
I been getting all my gold via tokens since legion
That's not a strat
That's just what you do
375k, nutty
Yeah, I remember thinking in Legion "I'll farm up for my game time!"
But always hovers around 300-330k, since df tokens are a bit higher
I did not farm gold for my game time
Im chronically broke
I did, swam in gold
So tokens are perfect
Its gonna be hard to go back haha and also the boosting keys has made me go think about, maybe a mythic 2 kill and try for the anvil ;P
Most of my chars are currently sitting at like 3k gold
Don't have to deal with shitty content I don't wanna do
So I know that life
Don't do it, if you can't do 3-5 mythic bosses a week.. so you would do it anyhow regularly
You must be EU?
Ye
With risk for being the weird guy again, there's nothing I like more in wow than raid tanking....BUUUUT... even the thought of having to commit to 2-3 days, forced raiding, for hours per week, in a guild with baddies (because I'm currently a baddie) is among the last things I want to do with my life lol
Ah ok, ya EU up to 435k now
Neat
I was talkin about NA, mostly been 200-250 and now 375
Maybe worth grabbing 2 or 3 tokens
maybe stock up some more lol
Just for the sake of it
you know what they say? Great minds think alike ๐
I wonder if my ticket is answered, why would you even try to scam someone with a deal made ingame with gold
it doesnt make sense lol
Scammers gonna scam
I raid 2 hours a week, 1 day. I am 5 bosses down, now ending raid nights on Zkarn. It is doable 
No, they hadn't but it appears that I can actually move my account from EU to NA if I want.
what?
What no
I would never be accepted into your guild or a guild like it.
?
They let my grey logging ass play with them, all about networking. Network I built through doing m+ 
You can't take your account from eu to na
Or vice versa
And if so, that's insanely new
I know you cant. But i opened ticket to ask anyhow because "reasons" and doesnt that look like they would do it?
You gotta start a new from fresh if you wanna do that, you can't migrate regions
Maybe it's just them migrating the origin of the account, but you lose all your progress in game but keep your btag and friendslist
Last time I had friends or any logs worth their weight was expo after mop, cant remember the name, wod?
Cuz you can't use an EU account on NA servers
maybe, they do mention a reset for b.net balance etc.
Ye like, it's migrating the account itself, but you lose all your in-game stuff and start from scratch
IT actually says right there you can?
Cursive text at the bottom
nvm here is it "Note: Region in this context does not mean the region of your Battle.net or World of Warcraft account, but rather the region in which you physically reside."
Which doesnt make much sense? I dont get the reason for that?
Fuck if I know
why does it matter if its not region xD
I just know you need 2 diff accounts if you wanna play eu and na/sa
Need to re-buy the game aswell
And have 2 subs etc
same, always what i've read and heard, even from blizzard themselves, just figured i'd ask cuz it doesnt cost anything and 90 ping is 90 ping
Yeah, there's likely different regulations for private information they're held to, as well, so keeping accounts separate like that helps the business end in multiple different ways
Logs don't matter, that was my point. Friends can be made almost at random. Just got to see if you click
only way to do that, is to do the groundwork of networking. Then expand from there
Changing bnet account country is likely so you can use appropriate currency in the shop
Ahh yeh, and things like cheaper sub for that region etc.
You can have na and EU wow accounts on the same bnet account
So all you're doing is changing which country you're associated with, not changing your wow account

I dont agree fully. Yes, networking helps but its the same as telling someone "Just get friends" or "just do x".
I would have to start from scratch, guild hopping, getting logs etc. Maybe... I mean, my healer friend is coming back to next tier. But he's still in the same guild with the same GM.
Not sure how many remember him but he took mythic level shenanigans to extreme levels...
Without even being a real mythic guild lol
The closest thing to networking in WoW I do is talk here
And message me for trap doti runs at 4am
I'm sad I haven't gotten a trap doti run this week
they've all gone very well
it feels cursed
Big sadge
All my wow contacts at this point are just from class discords
From average weekly gamers to literal R1 gamers alike
All just from class discords
Hello average weekly gamer checking in
You're the only person I knew about here before switching from pally to warrior because woliance always kept hyping you and your 5man tank runs that he so desperatly wanted to be part off
Just like, same. All the people I actually want to play with are in the class discords I'm in, mostly here
Hey, if it works, it works. Discord buddies are also valid 
Do you still do those btw?
Nah 5tank died
Probably because I enjoy, like, talking to everyone here a hell of a lot more than your average WoW player
those are either the best or the worst pugs
Just do 17's so you can solo carry.
And it literally hinges on how much of assholes people are
18 vp this morning, other 2 dps doing 50k on bosses and 70k overall
Good.
Frost dk and ret pally
i dunno how much do you get io wise from a single 11
A single 11
110 points if you havent done it yet?
That's roughly my io, then, ye
gamer io over here
i just wanted a wyrm crest
and i was short like 2 fragments
153 for a 11 +3 chest.
speaking of crests. I was supposed to give up lariat yes? Is that at a specific ilvl or just dont upgrade lariat and get another neck?
Yes, the latter
Lariat needs like, max number of slots to be of use now, so generally the latter
I got a 431 neck today, crit haste i think
That's because Mwahi can spell, unlike me smh
Calling people dumb is Jakey's job
It's all about the punctuation.
He had to take over for Macro
This.
I was wrong, it was this
Oh. That's good for damage anyway
I'm impressed I don't have Jakey down my throat on a daily basis considering how stupid I am
No haste is feelsbad though
You're probably up when he's not.
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Wetstone and grieftorch is obsolete for me right?
Yes.
Whew. Freak got the goats from days past
Just pop on Boon and go ham in AoE.
I even had wetstone drop thrice and gave one to our warlock GM over a rogue i think. That drama was hilarious.
rogue pug*
Ohh, i tried the webcam the other day and i think it would work good for streaming... Is there something about all of that, that is good to know now, before starting so to speak?
Or its just setup obs, fix some overlay for the webcam and open a twitch account?
You can get Nvidia broadcast
I have that yes, cant delete it lol
Which lets you do a transparent background which works very well
I can see my chair in it but anything past that is invisible
What about mic? Do you stream headset? Or just music? Or discord or?
I stream headset, so game sound and discord
Can you avoid the whole copyright stuff when streaming music in the background?
I can't game with music; it distracts me
2 more keys and I'm 444... 
Not if you're streaming the music, no
I need it to get into the zone and vibe. too much is distracting but no music? No vibe, no good play for me
Do you bormally have the music through your headset?
If im on discord yes. A little in the background
If im not on discord, i just play music on the speakers
Well, you can either play the music through your speakers or I think there's software that will let you split it from the rest of your audio so you can stream everything but the music
I'm not familiar with the software but I'm fairly sure something like that exists
Okay, imagine this..you can TRANSFER all the useless aspects from your main to your alts.
There are more MW Monks over 3k io on my server than PWarrs lol
Discord detected OBS running
So it put itself into Streamer mode
It hides everyone's usernames like that so people can't get doxxed or something
Hmmm... How I put it over the wow capture? :S
That makes too much sense 
It's fine
nvm i figured it out. has to be in the same thingy
I'd recommend checking out an OBS tutorial, but you'll need to select a source and set it to the proper window to capture from
sell them to me now
yeh, i made 2 seperate, instead off one inside the other
i'll give you 10g
do someone mind checking if it works on twitch and if the quality is decent?
DM me the link.
smh not just looking him up on twitch
I can't stand opening Twitch anymore.
You open Twitch and you're fed with some female streamers "just chatting" with stream names like "BATHTHUD JHIHGIHGIHGIGIGIGI".
soon as I open my own twitch it breaks and starts lagging until firefox crashes
doesnt really give good hope lol
is it just me or do you guys also feel uncomfortable seeing yourself like this ๐ฎ
You'll get used to it.
Did it work for you btw?
I hate being acknowledged in general so
Funny enough, I mind recordings and the like less on average because I'm just used to using them to improve. It just drives up my self hate when I see past me do stupid shit
Im not sure if its just for me but soon as I try to check, its extreme lag on both wow but specially my cam
Big FPS drops, je.
is it big difference between 30 and 60 fps streaming/recording/capturing?
in terms of performance i mean
and does it matter if i record/stream or just stream=
I have no idea. ๐
I stream at 40 fps
Cuz 1080p60fps is really heavy on your bitrate and computing power
40 fps is still very smooth viewing experience whilst having good quality and not requiring as much computing power to render
And 720p60fps just looks whack
Twitch interface is extremely bad for 2nd window usage
It eats insane amount of resources for no reason
I recommend getting a chat app, like chatterino instead of using twitch chat
And then adding extra panels in obs to view the stream setting and alert box inside OBS
That way you don't lose any fps from your browser
It's really annoying that nobody tells you any of this.
I had to find out all of this shit on my own over the years before I was actually happy with my streams setup and performance



