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odd nimbus
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really want to use this blackdragon scale :((

strong forum
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Then use anvil + scale

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Scale is good, but call to chaos is overbudgeted as fuck

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That trinket is on average 30% better than other stat proc trinkets

robust rover
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@strong forum what would you use for M+ from this poor trinket selection?

strong forum
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But scale is super solid

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Grapnel + Mark

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You can also use vial for a bit more aoe over ST dmg

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But grapnel is your best trinket in there

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And signoll flare is bad

robust rover
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Thanks!

odd nimbus
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kinda wanted to get rid of em

strong forum
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Anvil is the best dmg trinket in the game

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It shits on everything if you can maintain the 5 stacks

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(which isn't all too hard, just takes a small bit of practice)

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In my best run I think anvil did like 7k dps by itself

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Which is absolutely disgusting dps from a trinket that also has mainstat instead of a secondary stat and it's Single target dps and not just aoe pad

odd nimbus
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i love the haste on sunglass too

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still we should gem and enchant for haste right? when i got sunglass i gemed for crit70 haste 33

upper kernel
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Tips for forgotten experiments mythic? Seems crazy difficult for prot warr compared to my bdk cotank

strong forum
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But anvil is by far and large your best first trinket

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If you absolutely don't want to then you can obv just play scale + sunglass

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But optimally it's anvil + stat proc trinket/beacon

odd nimbus
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thanks

tender cove
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Are we talking 100% or is it 10%, like, explain to me in dummy terms ๐Ÿ˜„

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Its a raid trinket, ugh. Hard to farm for me ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

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buuuuuut, if its like having 2 trinkets in 1 slot, obvs, i would have to consider getting it somehow ๐Ÿ˜›

strong forum
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Anvil drops from the 2nd boss

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Hc is plenty good enough

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And 5 stack anvil in m+ is a good... 20-30% better than others

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Maybe more

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Sims don't reflect that well because it starts at 0 stacks and basic Sims aren't 30min long

chilly brook
strong forum
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Also attack speed slows like rogue poison, warlock curse and dk ice thingy

sick sentinel
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probably going to buy that because of general appearance, possible rp like sets

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i want the fist weapon too, but for that to be optimal mog makes me farm out a rare spawn in maldraxus

warm plinth
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It's called sandglass you dorks

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
opaque quest
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math baby

potent anvil
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I'm ascending deswind

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Next week I'll pump

warm plinth
warm plinth
bleak breach
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@potent anvil

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What lvl m+ are you running for those numbers and do you have set routes?

potent anvil
potent anvil
warm plinth
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I'm hyped!

potent anvil
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Probably be around 442 before reset. Hopefully

bleak breach
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Sorry haha

opaque quest
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Break the Meta event from RIO

bleak breach
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Ahhhhh

opaque quest
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Its where idiot non fotm rerollers like us get invites into +11 keys

hollow scroll
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+15 keys*

strong forum
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Also 442 ilvl

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Get workin!

potent anvil
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I'll get there eventually

opaque quest
strong forum
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Im just tryna motivate

potent anvil
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My trinkets arent ideal either. Signoll and heart of thunder.

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Need to do heroic clear and hope for beacon anvil

final mist
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im doing it as well, either as arms or on my holy priest

potent anvil
strong forum
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Heart of thunder isn't terrible

daring marlin
strong forum
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But yeh it ain't no anvil

opaque quest
cinder nova
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Thoughts on dropping BR for TL in M+?

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Or am I just stupid

lusty grotto
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yes

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youre stupid

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do not drop battering ram

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drop something else

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SoF

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is droppable to get TL

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ideally bloodsurge

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but if youre already dropping bloodsurge for spell block... the preferable choice is SoF

waxen frigate
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mods, crush his skull

lavish sphinx
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Any tier first-look tier list for S3 trinkets out there?

potent anvil
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Hit 441. Time to touch sheets.

ionic fern
halcyon pasture
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whats the damage of the spikes embelishment vs shadow flame armour patch?

lusty grotto
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i wonder if there will be an item to up evoker legendary in next patch like they did with sylvanas bow

halcyon pasture
lusty grotto
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spikes wasnt even a contender in s1

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where there was no shadowflame patch

halcyon pasture
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thanks

lusty grotto
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so yeah whether its keys or raid, it doesnt matter

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2x patch or 1x patch with unstable frostfire belt

tender cove
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Someone stole my ubereats because it was a blackout and I fell asleep for 45 min... omg...

static aspen
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Lmao

tender cove
# static aspen Lmao

Yeh, because i told them to just check the security camera... But no electricty during the blackout so someone took their chance xD

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Its ok, rappi had service still so having tacos inroute ๐Ÿ˜„

grand veldt
jagged pier
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xpearl we in wrath?

lusty grotto
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blast from the past

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i didnt even know xperl was still being updated lol

hasty flare
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i think its called zperl now

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also bartender

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jesus im old

lusty grotto
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good lord youre right its bartender

warm plinth
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A lot of people still use bartender though.

opaque quest
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Isnt bartender still in the elvui package

jagged pier
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yer i still use bartender

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i dont need elvui too much for me

warm plinth
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Not that I'm aware of; elvui has their own bars

crystal current
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hating on bartender deadge

jagged pier
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im not i like it very good for just dealing with bars

warm plinth
grand veldt
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yeah haha

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i did a 25 with fandy the other day and we had like 4 minutes to spare

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these guys were just pain

warm plinth
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You should check raider.io to see just how close it was

grand veldt
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21 mill reflected that dungeon

warm plinth
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phew

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1/3 of a second

grand veldt
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undertime by 0.353

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lmfao

hasty flare
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thats alot on NL

grand veldt
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yeah i really love the dungeon

willow tulip
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is prot looking good for m+ next season? Looking to main s3

hasty flare
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can tell haha

jagged pier
hasty flare
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tbf prot on tyran weeks

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very fun

jagged pier
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but not the best

hasty flare
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for NL

grand veldt
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yeah

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i like it in VP/Halls/NL

hasty flare
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i like to run halls

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just for the last boss

grand veldt
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same same

hasty flare
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makes my day

grand veldt
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feels really good to carry a fight thats hard

hasty flare
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if i have a group disband before last

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i feel so sad

grand veldt
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yeah lol

hasty flare
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VP isnt even prot tho tbf

grand veldt
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i try to run with resto druids

hasty flare
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just warrior in general

grand veldt
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yeah

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im actually annoyed how much better fury and arms is in uldaman

hasty flare
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got me playing mario on leaping into peoples circles with reflect on last boss

grand veldt
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you get to reflect everything

grand veldt
hasty flare
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ye i hate groups where like

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full ranged

grand veldt
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yeah

hasty flare
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everyone spread they get circle

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and still run further away when no one is in it

grand veldt
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lmfaoooo

hasty flare
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then me going after that circle on prot

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imagine never having a prot tank this season in a team setting

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and your tank just like "ok guys when you get this mechanic, run on me"

grand veldt
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lmfao

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yeah i tell people to run to me and no one does

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i tell em to not run from me and they do

hasty flare
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my guild kicks first boss reflects on me as a prank ;-;

grand veldt
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lolol

pallid quiver
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Hm. I spent too much time lazying about in WoW playing weeb games this week. It's hard to find a Heroic pug that can get past the brick wall of a raid boss that is, uh, kazzara

jagged pier
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u need to pug reset day otherwise its gaga

pallid quiver
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ye

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It's a shame, since I usually work reset day

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but damn, they can usually at least get past the first boss

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It's honestly impressive

blazing condor
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i got curve now at least but im still 7/9 cus cant find a pug that could clear zskarn

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feels bad not being full cleared

opaque quest
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Isnt zskarn just a punching bag in h

blazing condor
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it is

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but ppl dont know how to do traps and shit

warm plinth
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mm, not really. It's easy for the tank; just have to move for the fire. But other people still gotta kill golems and disarm traps

blazing condor
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i also got flamed first time doing it cus apparently i was moving the boss wrong but i just went around the circle so idk

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isnt the strat just literally stand > wait for trap > move

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then move away for big fire

warm plinth
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I've only tanked him once on heroic but I just kept him on one side then moved him to the other side

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when fire happened

blazing condor
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thats what i did

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but they kicked me sadge

warm plinth
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idk why it would need to be more complicated than that

pallid quiver
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People will blame you for the most random shit in pugs since they usually have 0 idea what's going on

blazing condor
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i kinda did wing the fight though cus i had never done it and watched the vid p much as i did it

pallid quiver
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"omg kick these shit heals"

boss the healer got killed by a dps kiting a laser on him first and second wave

warm plinth
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No autographs please

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(ppal logs though)

blazing condor
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none needed okayge

warm plinth
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It's hard out here guys

blazing condor
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fuck it

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time to prove themselves

warm plinth
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There was a 424 tha applied a bit ago; I would've taken him

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yolo

blazing condor
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tyrann neltharus not too fun for healers tho lol

grim pilot
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neltharus is a joke

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after they nerfed it

warm plinth
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., lkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

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trial by fire, literally

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Luigi

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']Also

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Luigi says hi

pallid quiver
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Ask Luigi how Mario is doing and why he isn't returning my calls

blazing condor
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hes in another castle

warm plinth
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.0.........................

grim pilot
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๐Ÿคจ

warm plinth
jagged pier
blazing condor
lavish sphinx
blazing condor
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me

warm plinth
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After all the wait time, I don't thinkw e're completing this key keks

blazing condor
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sadge

jagged pier
blazing condor
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i gotta do a uldaman

warm plinth
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top tier feral damage tbh

blazing condor
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but i really cba

warm plinth
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that's chargath

blazing condor
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the hate for uldaman is flowing through me

blazing condor
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i dont even care about io

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this late into the patch its w/e

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just wanna get my last crests so i can have some gear

blazing condor
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so i can replace it all in a few weeks

opaque quest
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So you can replace it all "faster" in a few weeks

blazing condor
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exactly

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my friend gave me 50k so i can at least afford crafts now. so might as well

opaque quest
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If i dont get day 2 curve again im gonna be madge. Need ilvl

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G2G is 500k for 20 bucks

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Or 150 for 6

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Depending on server ofcourse. A friend always buys on kazzak those are his prices

blazing condor
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reported for marketing !!!

opaque quest
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Marketing someone elses product i dont profit from. I turned into an instagram model

warm plinth
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It did not make it keks

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wiped like 4 times to Chargath

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this was the overall when we disbanded

ionic fern
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ASSASSINATION ROGUE?

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Gimme.

opaque quest
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I adore my assa rogue

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Not as much as pistol guy but the flair is just on point

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Also Legy daggers > mage towers

warm plinth
opaque quest
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Assa on pure ST isnt to bad

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AOE is the real problem

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Best Assa is ahead of best sub on kazz for example

tender cove
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Go brag to steve and the gang, the furries xD

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Hmm, i cant seem to find him. Wonder if he changed his name. Where the cuddly bear at, you here bro?

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@thorn spruce where steve at? And where you at? You never talk to me anymore, feels bad man ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

ionic fern
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Je Woli, where you at. ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

grim pilot
warm plinth
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I know he does it out of love though

blazing condor
blazing condor
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chromatic essence tops mark of dargrul for m+ right

ionic fern
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I think you deserve this ๐Ÿ“ˆ.

blazing condor
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road to "A Dog" on the way

ionic fern
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Great story to tell your grandchildren one day.

blazing condor
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peepoHappy thanks for believing i'll procreate

ionic fern
sick sentinel
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man i legit did nothing on wow barely even logged on at all this week

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i did like, 2 wq on dk, looted vault, was literal it

opaque quest
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I sweated 4 hours a day in M+ on my sham and went from 408 to 445.5. Now im bored again and back to anno. Hopefully 11.0 drops soon cause all the Invasion style wow content is:

daring marlin
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You have collected all the hotdogs, yet...

lusty tiger
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The guys a glizzy goblin for crests

sick sentinel
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over kill is fucking impossible

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not even finale mission of episode 1, and have to kil 4 dudes with homing explosive plasma cannons

waxen frigate
lusty tiger
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: D

shy flare
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Wich build u guys are using to test war on PTR?

sick sentinel
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i found the wrist watch youtuber

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thats apparently all this guy ever does is vidoes about reviewing and how to set the time on different watches :S :S i didnt expect to be running into this today

waxen frigate
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Yeah thatโ€™s definitely a channel Iโ€™d imagine you watching

sick sentinel
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running into *

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i watch him yeah

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i watched, 26 seconds

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of his content, time well spent

waxen frigate
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If you want another random obscure channel

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Geofatboy does videos on razors and shaving supplies

sick sentinel
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this is a dude i found many years ago, hes fucking fantastic

waxen frigate
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DONT TOUCH THAT MOUSE

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I fucking love badlands

strong forum
opaque quest
shy flare
sick sentinel
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i find this intro to be both amazing but yet slightly terrifying

opaque quest
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Looks like the AI generated mountain dew ads

open gazelle
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Is it just me or does spell block never do what I actually want it to do?

hardy snow
open gazelle
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Like it seems to never work

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Doesnโ€™t actually block sing target spells thrown at me

hardy snow
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dont forget it only enables blocking spells, doesnt block itself

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you must have shield block active for 100% chance to block

open gazelle
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Do I have to face the spell?

toxic pewter
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new xpac name leaked:

World of Warcraft Stormbreak

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Seems to be a Dwarf themed xpac perhaps

open gazelle
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Source?

toxic pewter
hardy snow
toxic pewter
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they not spoilers though, this is speculation and theory

open gazelle
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Oh okay speculation

toxic pewter
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why would speculation need spoilers lol

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it hasnt even happened yet

lusty tiger
hardy snow
lusty tiger
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same but idk fasho

hardy snow
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but its best to check in logs whether spell was blocked or not

lusty tiger
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i mean... i guess... why wouldnt you be facing the spell?

blazing condor
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p sure spell block just gives ur normal blocks the ability to also count spells

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meaning u cant block in the back

open gazelle
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But spell reflect you donโ€™t have to face the spell at all? Thatโ€™s kinda funny tbh

blazing condor
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it makes sense

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actually i take it back cus the tooltip says u raise ur shield

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it doesnt make sense

lusty tiger
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it is a 360 vr shield

blazing condor
worthy frost
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haste or vers alch trinket? sitting at 34% haste atm

jagged pier
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Nither alch trinket is bad

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If u have to choose haste

violet ginkgo
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Should be time we got a dwarf story right? might be some interesting weapon too inside since this is dwarf we talking about.

jagged pier
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Yer it will be a 2 hand strength axe or mace probably if true cause dwarf

worthy frost
sick sentinel
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made it to final mission of episode one

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didnt lose any men so far, didnt think i'd make it so far

plush tendon
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I believe

violet ginkgo
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oh yeah I mean it is time we should get it, I mean at least so far from MoP to DF dwarf is not really exposed

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so it's nice that they will do it

plush tendon
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Weren't there rumors that the next expac might be something in Azeroth and using old zones?

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I could see like Searing Gorge, Badlands, Burning Steppes in EK and then like Stonetalon, Desolace, Feralas being some good target areas to rework

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some cool NE and Dwarf themes

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but I guess well find out in a month anyways

blazing condor
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we gonna dig through azeroth with the dwarves to find ways to cancel the titans

mighty valley
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the titans are gonna cancel the dwarves right back

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"magni. found posts of yours from 20 years ago. you said your daughter was too much of a woman to rule Ironforge"

blazing condor
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"uh... well... let me just mf uh..." [turns into petrified stone again]

lusty tiger
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^accurate

lusty tiger
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@lusty grotto me have lvl 14 cnj

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am a mouseover cure gamer

tender cove
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lol, just got scammed on 250k

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still bit confused why the guy think he'll get away with it when the deal was explicilty agreed upon, ingame and made with gold :S

lusty tiger
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WTF

scenic echo
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So im planing to come back to retail and lvling a tank to focus on m+ and maybe some raiding, is prot warrior viable in s3 and this season?

pallid quiver
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no you die if anything looks at you even remotely angrily spec can't function dead forever

lusty tiger
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LOL

jagged pier
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also what lvl of content u looking to do?

blazing condor
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crazy how magmorax now (on hc) is just "stand in the same spot and dps"

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no mechanics

pallid quiver
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Bold of you to assume a pug won't demand there to be mechanics in a desperate bid to wipe the raid

blazing condor
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my job was just "stand on blue and taunt swap"

jagged gust
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There was a time it wasn't?

blazing condor
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which is basically all of abberus tbf

blazing condor
pallid quiver
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I really do prefer to DPS most of the time in Aberrus if I'm pugging because I have more control over if a group wipes or not

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And playing the game of "how to get the other tank to press a single button for the tank swap" is not a fun game

blazing condor
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raid tanking is brain dead

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always has been ๐Ÿ”ซ

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very very few bosses where you actually need to really do stuff thats specific to the tank-role alone

jagged pier
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try living out of the phase on sarc mythic on your own

jagged gust
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Idk, I've seen pug tanks doing like 30k DPS, if we can more than double another tanks DPS it's kind of the same as if I took a pug DPS slot

blazing condor
lusty tiger
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No I wanted you to take the same two rashok combos in a row

blazing condor
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doesnt even kill you on hc

sick sentinel
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protection warrior found in overkill

blazing condor
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a dude DCd on zskarn

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next pull we wipe

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zskarn is still attacking after everyone is dead

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and the fight wont end

pallid quiver
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He needs a bath

tender cove
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any good ?

lusty tiger
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it is handy

pallid quiver
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we love ignore pain taking up a trinket slot

lusty tiger
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and situational

pallid quiver
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it's garbonzo

lusty tiger
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yea not great

tender cove
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but this one isnt bugged though

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thats always a plus though? ๐Ÿ˜„

warm plinth
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It's a good trinket

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Its just not a useful trinket

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Because defensive trinkets are meh

grand veldt
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I like the trinket for when doing a key that's a higher level than my norm

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Like training wheels

blazing condor
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too bad 352k isnt that much to absorb

grand veldt
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At hero level it's like 450k

warm plinth
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You do you, but your gameplay shouldn't change as key level increases so training wheels really shouldn't be necessary

grand veldt
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Yeah just always nervous doing a higher key for the first few times

blazing condor
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just blame dps

grand veldt
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Based

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Honestly pugs have been so draining lately

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Bad push weeks good players avoid

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I literally have a macro for the healer external defensive

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To spam chat for it

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Like people are just not very good I feel

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Its painfully obvious in the opening pull on NL

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The pugs wont wait to get in combat so you cant bop gather

warm plinth
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352k is a big absorb idk. It's essentially another (really good) defensive.

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on a 1 minute CD

pallid quiver
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The combination of having to take 700k or so in 18 seconds plus the stronger other trinket options in general make me really value it mega low

grand veldt
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I can take that damage so fast your head will spin

warm plinth
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I mean like I said, there's no reason to use it because it's unnecessary

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But for what it is, it's very good

pallid quiver
warm plinth
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And taking 700k damage in a relevant key is not hard

grand veldt
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The auto attack on crushers in FH 25s is like 400k pre mit

warm plinth
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How much damage do you think Sand Breath does, as an example.

grand veldt
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Yeah in dawn that thing is actually not bad

pallid quiver
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I was mostly concerned about his confidence in damage taken

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Because definitely can take 700k in 18 seconds a lot of the time

grand veldt
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I just know when and where I'm gonna take a lot of damage

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You use it pre pull into a knuckle duster pack

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Itll get used I promise

warm plinth
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In any case, I should reiterate that I don't think it's something people should use, purely because it shouldn't be needed. But it IS a good trinket for what it is.

grand veldt
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I mean there can be an argument if you're pulling absurdly bigger

warm plinth
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Big pulls are not really where it finds use.

grand veldt
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But you have to actually play dangerously

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No? You dont think a triple FH pull would make it beneficial overall

warm plinth
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If I used it for anything, I'd use it for like I said, an extra defensive for big hits.

pallid quiver
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Big pulls usually are a question of proper stops/avoidance, as well as damage to ensure you don't run out of stops

lusty tiger
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it is handy for circumstances where you have azralon pugs

grand veldt
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Like pulling 3 packs instead of 2

warm plinth
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If you do a big pull, that absorb is going to get drained giga fast

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and that's pointless

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because it's being expended on auto attacks, which we take little damage from anyway

grand veldt
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Yeah that's the point though, bc you cant do that big a pull with out multi defensives

warm plinth
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You can

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is my point

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You're just burning the absorb on insignificant damage

lusty tiger
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it is good for if you have to run to get packs and expect back hits and weird positioning for the beginning

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another button to smooth that out

warm plinth
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Just don't get hit in the back

grand veldt
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It's definitely a player preference thing

lusty tiger
grand veldt
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To me if I'm giving up mark of dagrul

warm plinth
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You can pull massive without getting hit in the back

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Getting hit in the back in a big key means you die

grand veldt
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I need to make up for the damage elsewhere

warm plinth
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Why do you think people finally came to their senses about HR last season

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Because that 1-2 second gap of no shield block was causing them to get dropped instantly

grand veldt
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Is that the 2 second extension talent?

warm plinth
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It's the one that extends SB with shield slam

grand veldt
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On SB

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Ah yeah I like that one a lot

warm plinth
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It was required last season because we didn't play Bolster

grand veldt
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I run that and don't run the extension because I really like having disrupting shout

warm plinth
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Uhhh

lusty tiger
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๐Ÿค”

grand veldt
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Yeah I know

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But with last stand resetting

warm plinth
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If you want disrupting shout, just move show of force...why would you drop enduring defenses for that

grand veldt
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I personally have found that the last stand can be reset enough to where that talent isnt needed

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Let me find a recent log to check my sb up time rq

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But I dont think I've ever been below 90

warm plinth
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Uptime does not matter. % of blocked hits matter.

grand veldt
#

Wdym?

lusty tiger
grand veldt
#

That 2s extension on SB is just an up time buff

blazing condor
#

up time = percentage you have the aura up

warm plinth
#

They dont' do less damage while you're gathering mobs. You will still die if you are just letting shit hit you in the back

blazing condor
#

blocked% = the % of melee hits that hit on the aura

#

if you have shield block up while youre not taking melee damage u have good uptime but it dont matta

lusty tiger
warm plinth
#

This is my warrior's recent Freehold key

#

This is my % of blocked hits

#

So as you can see, uptime is not the relevant factor here

#

That goes doubly so in logs where non-combat time is included.

#

Oh this wasn't actually the recent one lul. This was my trap one back in August keks

waxen frigate
warm plinth
#

same thing applies though

waxen frigate
#

That seems to be a while to do the skip after sharkbait

grand veldt
#

I'll check my FH logs sec

#

Here's my nl 25 logs

warm plinth
#

Pugs don't skip anything after sharkbait sir

warm plinth
#

and yet

grand veldt
#

Sure I got hit in the back but with a wipe

waxen frigate
grand veldt
#

Yeah that's because I'm trash

waxen frigate
#

Real, same

grand veldt
#

Not because I don't have 2s SB extension

waxen frigate
#

Someone check if Nishangy-Stormrage has any logged keys :))

#

I wanna see how shit I am

blazing condor
#

here u can check

jagged pier
warm plinth
waxen frigate
#

Warcraftlogs on mobile critcake

waxen frigate
#

I guess maybe thatโ€™s the gauntlet RP

warm plinth
#

Oh, probably yeah

waxen frigate
jagged pier
#

the log posted up there

lusty tiger
#

lol

blazing condor
#

moment of silence for all the missed out rage

#

sadge ๐Ÿ•ฏ๏ธ

grand veldt
#

88% up time

warm plinth
#

and yet...

grand veldt
#

Once again

waxen frigate
#

I think this is mine?

grand veldt
#

If I'm trash

#

That's dif

blazing condor
#

u dont waste any rage

grand veldt
#

Than it being an uptime problem

blazing condor
#

probably cus u got 15 cpm IP

#

gotta press some SS more

warm plinth
#

I dropped Shield Block 5 times in my log. You dropped it 25 times.

#

Both not counting RP

grand veldt
#

How many hits did I take with it off

warm plinth
#

And I've tanked 2 dungeons all season

warm plinth
jagged pier
warm plinth
#

Don't look at the rage wasted

waxen frigate
#

Shit I suck

warm plinth
#

Don't do it Jakey

jagged pier
#

no that was the 22 FH

warm plinth
#

oh

jagged pier
#

not nish's

warm plinth
jagged pier
#

u boys keep talking about uptime

#

but not even checking casts

warm plinth
#

Because the discussion wasn't about casts

jagged pier
#

it should be

waxen frigate
warm plinth
waxen frigate
#

I canโ€™t see shit

pallid quiver
#

i know that feeling, nish

#

it's some kind of effort trying to help people while I'm at work

jagged pier
gloomy vortex
grand veldt
#

Do you guys save shield charge or last stand for opening pull?

#

I'm noticing most my hits taken without shield blocking is the beginning of a pull

grand veldt
#

I use shield charge and last stand on cd but maybe I should hold it for the start of a pull

jagged pier
#

its garbage

#

run battering ram instead

#

press cds on cd

jagged pier
#

unless it comes back with like a few seconds left in the pull

grand veldt
#

Idk I just pop a defensive for opening pull I dont think I'm gonna save any CDs to make sure shield blocks up during my charge

#

So I think 61 hits is not unreasonable in FH

#

The back shots I surely took is room for improvement

#

Devastate needs to be off gcd, I cant imagine running the original build without it being off gcd

hardy snow
#

but its passive with autoattacks ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

lusty grotto
blazing condor
#

its enough having 70+ cpm

#

dont need off gcd devastate

warm plinth
#

Imagine if deva was off gcd keks

#

would have to macro it to every ability

grand veldt
#

Yeah itd be fun lol

#

We already have 2 things off gcd

#

Like who cares

#

Itd just be nice to have it as an option, instead of it just having 0 synergy with everything

frosty bolt
#

with Forgestorm being the bis for m+ for weapons, how does Shadowed Impact Bickler compare to other crafted gear?

vocal verge
#

Forgestorm sims for less for my warrior. Did you sim it?

grand veldt
#

It is beyond dog shit

#

You can proc it with anything including mounting

#

You're rarely in a position to maximize its damage

#

And when you do get a good log it somehow does less dps than tough as nails

#

It's like 2m damage on a good log

#

Stick with shadow flame patches since it's good on tyran or fort

#

Or literally any other embellishment is better

#

Even the one giving your group vers

frosty bolt
#

ok than you, weird they would implement something so bad

sick sentinel
#

good on paper.....

grand veldt
#

It's so painful

#

The aoe it procs is like shorter than revenge range

#

You can literally miss mobs right next to you

lusty grotto
#

you want a 447 crafted or M Amalg weapon for keys

warm plinth
#

What does impact buckler have to do with forgestorm anyway

strong forum
grand veldt
#

i think he was just speculating on aoe damage i guess

strong forum
#

if you can have pulls that are 15+ targets the shield can bug out and do insane dmg in 1 proc

#

like 400k+ with a single proc

grand veldt
#

i never pulled that high on my prot paladin with it

#

but i tried it for a very long time

#

never had anything happen like that even in bracken hide with lashers

#

ive had mounting proc it many times though and just burn all my stacks

strong forum
#

ive not bothered crafting a diff embellish so i been using it all patch

#

but yeah in BH it can bug out "reliably"

sick sentinel
#

character is a literal rat, speaking of rats, time for rat dk LFR

#

something with a tail at any rate, maybe a cat? like from elder scrolls

mighty valley
#

how did this game come up

#

how does anything expand the yogiverse

sick sentinel
#

been trying to beat it this week

#

its hard as balls, iim psat normal raid, now doing heroic raid parth, episode 3 if i recall is mythic raid

vivid pumice
#

Can I press DS on cd and have it up for the second combo of rashok?
Meaning: wall DS wall intermission?

#

I felt like i need to hold DS after first intermission

#

So it isnt really press on cd

potent anvil
#

Is forgestorm worth farming? Or should I just craft 447

urban portal
#

Just craft

potent anvil
#

10 more keys to go seramore

sick sentinel
#

rat.exe is working

tall tusk
sick sentinel
#

ya, won a belt ill never use too with 99

frail hemlock
#

during avatar, if both SS and TC are available, in AoE, you use TC? (does it change if Earthen Smash is up?)

pallid quiver
#

I can't even imagine just starting to smash into keys this late into a season

#

that's why i havent touched keys this season

pallid quiver
frail hemlock
#

Hm ok, is wowhead outdated?

pallid quiver
#

You only consider it if you're in some really big AOE where your rage gen gets mostly fueled by Bloodsurge

#

Wowhead is maintianed by Llarold, who has to juggle multiple guides and isn't a Prot War specialist. It's by and large accurate last I had checked, but I wager some things slip through

#

I'd have to see what you mean by it being outdated

frail hemlock
#

Is there another guide you would recommend?

pallid quiver
#

Icy Veins is written by Mwahi, one of the main theory children for Prot War

#

It's generally my go to for Prot War specifically

frail hemlock
#

When selecting Unstoppable Force, it puts TC above SS

potent anvil
#

While my DK is sitting at like 1k of those fragments... wish they are boa

pallid quiver
pallid quiver
pallid quiver
#

Only at like 433

#

I pretty much only hit DotI and Heroic raid

#

Can't be fussed to deal with the bad pugs this late in; the kind who throw fits over absolutely anything

potent anvil
#

Yeah.. I just spam underrots the least problematic key for pugs to just hold W

molten rock
#

With 4 piece bonus up post last stand SS hits hardert than TC

left basalt
potent anvil
#

Maybe. I just like speedrunning underrot.

pallid quiver
#

I've been in both of those dungeons once in my life

warm plinth
#

I'd like to speedrun you

pallid quiver
#

And that was for questing in bfa

lavish sphinx
#

We in the 2.8k io club now boys

warm plinth
#

I mean what

lavish sphinx
#

There are only 4 Prot Warr over 3k io on my server lol

warm plinth
#

Congratulations

lavish sphinx
#

โค๏ธ

#

Hopefully make the 5th spot by end of season

strong forum
#

Tbf there's only like 7 pwars in the world above 3k

cerulean tusk
#

That is... kinda sad

strong forum
#

Not literally 7, but it might aswell be

#

3.4k already gets you in the top20

cerulean tusk
#

Cut off at what, 3.6k EU now?

strong forum
#

Cutoff projections say ~3620

cerulean tusk
#

Let's hope the break the meta week will push warrior into the top o.1% bracket gladge

strong forum
#

3640 actually

strong forum
cerulean tusk
#

As long there is one, who fought off the bear-tide, I say we won

strong forum
#

If we go by 3640 score

#

Both prots have the least representation with 6 players

tender cove
strong forum
#

Actually brew also 6

lavish sphinx
#

Had to check - 492 PWarr above 3k io

#

There are 3 who are 2999 lol

strong forum
#

So pwar, pally, brew have currently 6 at 3640 or above

#

10 bdks

#

And 19 vdhs

cerulean tusk
#

How many bears? peepostudy

tender cove
#

im suprised its that many vdh's(in comparision), is that class slept on?

strong forum
cerulean tusk
#

VDH was the meta pick for a while,so not really

strong forum
#

Naowh made vdh a meta pick before bear took over

tender cove
strong forum
#

And that just stuck around

tender cove
#

Felt like a scam xD

#

I expected to see some 200-300k dps xD

strong forum
#

It's 377 bears at 3640 or above

grand veldt
#

Anyone know what this does

tender cove
#

holy shit xD

cerulean tusk
#

377

#

50 or so combined is the rest

#

Neat

tender cove
#

what keys are you doing at 3600? 30?

strong forum
strong forum
cerulean tusk
#

28/29

strong forum
#

To get 3600 it's full 28s

#

Not even

south zealot
#

half 28s half 27s for 3600

tender cove
# strong forum Boosting requirements are extremely low

I noticed. Borderline if we would have timed it without me contributing. Granted, i wasn't some pro arms player, i died quite a lot to avoidable dmg i didnt know about but in terms on raw numbers? I def felt cheated lol

strong forum
#

Yeah

#

Like, when I boosted I avoided most other players

#

Cuz... They also just suck...

#

Just because you are allowed to boost doesn't mean you're a good player

cerulean tusk
#

Oh,I added the good ones to my friendslist

tender cove
strong forum
#

Yeah you'd think that when you get paid to run keys for others that they're good

#

But uh

#

That ain't the reality of it

cerulean tusk
#

Well, they ain't bad. They just not excellent. Then you had the boosted boosters...

strong forum
#

Yup

tender cove
strong forum
#

If you're legit just in a weekly boost, you can get any kind of player

#

Alot of people just buy their vault slots cuz it's quicker/more reliable than finding a pug

#

But on a weekly level it's basically just a premium pug

tender cove
#

Yeh, it kinda feels like pugging early when there's still good groups going on but for this late? Well... I dunno. Its hard for me to gauge as I expected it to be people like you, method, echo etc boosting lol

strong forum
#

Alot of the good people also just don't boost weekly keys anymore

#

The splits ain't worth it

south zealot
#

yeah its just not worth the time

strong forum
#

Like would you boost a key for 20k gold

pallid quiver
#

all roads lead to token

strong forum
#

I sure as shit wouldn't

pallid quiver
#

Bruh

cerulean tusk
#

What is it now, 25k? Sad times

pallid quiver
#

I get almost as much just selling augment runes

strong forum
#

Idk how much it is

#

But it can't be more than that

tender cove
strong forum
#

Yeah like I only boosted keys when it's like 150k for a key, then I might think about it

pallid quiver
#

If it's like 20k, just go to your job and afk heal an adventurer in need bonus healer spot

cerulean tusk
#

You do you, Freak. But time could be spent doing PuGs, then network with the good players you meet

tender cove
strong forum
#

Level boosting is even more soul crushing..

tender cove
#

true but there you have 3x people paying 100-150k each, taking an hour or two at worst.

strong forum
#

Like boosting in itself is already disgustingly boring

tender cove
#

thats decent money, no ?

cerulean tusk
#

Heh, BFA level boosting, 450k for 15 min per player, with rotating roster... good good gold

strong forum
tender cove
strong forum
#

Yes

tender cove
#

how come?

strong forum
#

I hate it

#

It's boring

#

I don't wanna play for the sake of earning currency

cerulean tusk
#

Boosting is only fun, if the crew is fun. Sadly most boosters are the... quiet or special sort

tender cove
#

yeh, thats a fair argument.

strong forum
#

Like I already hate my life just doing keys for crests

#

Now imagine not even getting gear upgrades for it

#

And just some number in your bag

south zealot
#

yeah doing keys that are piss easy is boring as fuck

pallid quiver
#

I have trouble playing for gear in the first place and I'm used to the perpetual poverty life, so I could never imagine boosting

strong forum
#

I rather buy tokens than boost keys on end

pallid quiver
#

On top of that, I don't even personally advocate boosting in general; it's just against why I play games

#

I won't yell at other people for boosting or buying boosts, but it's just weird to me

strong forum
#

Same

tender cove
strong forum
#

That's only fun for like 0.25 dungeons

#

Gets stale real quick

cerulean tusk
#

Not weird, I do it in 20s, to my healers great annoyance

tender cove
strong forum
#

I don't care enough about gold to think about it like that

cerulean tusk
#

Pulling big is fun tho wicked

pallid quiver
#

Healer Heroic bag is the real strat

#

Throw down passive heals

#

Follow tank

#

Alt tab out

tender cove
#

For the longest time I felt like it was bad to buy gold, token or not and resisted for as long as I could but when I came back this time and saw like 27k on my entire b.net account? Drunk me deciided to buy 3 tokens for some reason but im happy he did. Its nice.

#

Specially having the option.

strong forum
#

The real strat is buying tokens, can't get more gold/hr than that

frail hemlock
#

Especially at these token values, insane

strong forum
#

I been getting all my gold via tokens since legion

pallid quiver
#

That's not a strat

That's just what you do

frail hemlock
#

375k, nutty

strong forum
#

Was more in legion

#

Peaked at like 480k in legion

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, I remember thinking in Legion "I'll farm up for my game time!"

strong forum
#

But always hovers around 300-330k, since df tokens are a bit higher

pallid quiver
#

I did not farm gold for my game time

strong forum
#

Im chronically broke

cerulean tusk
#

I did, swam in gold

strong forum
#

So tokens are perfect

tender cove
pallid quiver
#

Most of my chars are currently sitting at like 3k gold

strong forum
#

Don't have to deal with shitty content I don't wanna do

pallid quiver
#

So I know that life

strong forum
#

For DF I stocked up on like 6mil gold

#

Still have like 1.5mil

#

Im chillin

cerulean tusk
strong forum
#

Ye

tender cove
frail hemlock
#

Ah ok, ya EU up to 435k now

strong forum
#

Neat

frail hemlock
#

I was talkin about NA, mostly been 200-250 and now 375

strong forum
#

Maybe worth grabbing 2 or 3 tokens

tender cove
strong forum
#

Just for the sake of it

tender cove
#

I wonder if my ticket is answered, why would you even try to scam someone with a deal made ingame with gold

#

it doesnt make sense lol

strong forum
#

Scammers gonna scam

cerulean tusk
tender cove
#

No, they hadn't but it appears that I can actually move my account from EU to NA if I want.

#

what?

strong forum
#

What no

tender cove
tender cove
cerulean tusk
strong forum
#

You can't take your account from eu to na

#

Or vice versa

#

And if so, that's insanely new

tender cove
strong forum
#

You gotta start a new from fresh if you wanna do that, you can't migrate regions

#

Maybe it's just them migrating the origin of the account, but you lose all your progress in game but keep your btag and friendslist

tender cove
strong forum
#

Cuz you can't use an EU account on NA servers

tender cove
strong forum
#

Ye like, it's migrating the account itself, but you lose all your in-game stuff and start from scratch

tender cove
#

IT actually says right there you can?

strong forum
#

Cursive text at the bottom

tender cove
#

nvm here is it "Note: Region in this context does not mean the region of your Battle.net or World of Warcraft account, but rather the region in which you physically reside."

#

Which doesnt make much sense? I dont get the reason for that?

strong forum
#

Fuck if I know

tender cove
#

why does it matter if its not region xD

strong forum
#

I just know you need 2 diff accounts if you wanna play eu and na/sa

#

Need to re-buy the game aswell

#

And have 2 subs etc

tender cove
#

same, always what i've read and heard, even from blizzard themselves, just figured i'd ask cuz it doesnt cost anything and 90 ping is 90 ping

pallid quiver
#

Yeah, there's likely different regulations for private information they're held to, as well, so keeping accounts separate like that helps the business end in multiple different ways

cerulean tusk
warm plinth
tender cove
warm plinth
#

You can have na and EU wow accounts on the same bnet account

#

So all you're doing is changing which country you're associated with, not changing your wow account

strong forum
tender cove
#

Not sure how many remember him but he took mythic level shenanigans to extreme levels...

#

Without even being a real mythic guild lol

pallid quiver
#

The closest thing to networking in WoW I do is talk here

warm plinth
#

And message me for trap doti runs at 4am

pallid quiver
#

I'm sad I haven't gotten a trap doti run this week

#

they've all gone very well

#

it feels cursed

warm plinth
#

Big sadge

strong forum
#

All my wow contacts at this point are just from class discords

#

From average weekly gamers to literal R1 gamers alike

#

All just from class discords

warm plinth
#

Hello average weekly gamer checking in

tender cove
pallid quiver
#

Just like, same. All the people I actually want to play with are in the class discords I'm in, mostly here

cerulean tusk
#

Hey, if it works, it works. Discord buddies are also valid noahwhite

tender cove
#

Do you still do those btw?

strong forum
#

Nah 5tank died

pallid quiver
#

Probably because I enjoy, like, talking to everyone here a hell of a lot more than your average WoW player

warm plinth
#

I had some great pugs yesterday and today

#

And by great I mean awful

pallid quiver
#

those are either the best or the worst pugs

ionic fern
#

Just do 17's so you can solo carry.

pallid quiver
#

And it literally hinges on how much of assholes people are

warm plinth
#

18 vp this morning, other 2 dps doing 50k on bosses and 70k overall

pallid quiver
#

but my key's only an 11 mwahi and my io is like

#

50?

warm plinth
#

Both higher ilvl than me

#

Yep

warm plinth
#

Frost dk and ret pally

pallid quiver
#

i dunno how much do you get io wise from a single 11

ionic fern
#

+6 it.

warm plinth
#

Depends on if you have score on the other sidd

#

Side

pallid quiver
#

A single 11

tender cove
pallid quiver
#

That's roughly my io, then, ye

#

gamer io over here

#

i just wanted a wyrm crest

#

and i was short like 2 fragments

ionic fern
#

153 for a 11 +3 chest.

warm plinth
#

11 by itself would be 145.5 exac5ly timed

#

Exactly*

tender cove
#

speaking of crests. I was supposed to give up lariat yes? Is that at a specific ilvl or just dont upgrade lariat and get another neck?

warm plinth
#

Yes, the latter

pallid quiver
#

Lariat needs like, max number of slots to be of use now, so generally the latter

tender cove
#

I got a 431 neck today, crit haste i think

warm plinth
#

I think shadowflame outsims it even with max sockets

#

Perfect

pallid quiver
#

For us it should iirc

#

mwahi gonna tell me that i'm stoopid and wrong ;-;

warm plinth
#

He would never say that

#

The first part anyway

ionic fern
#

Je, the second part i can muster.

#

This first one nah.

pallid quiver
#

That's because Mwahi can spell, unlike me smh

warm plinth
#

Calling people dumb is Jakey's job

ionic fern
#

It's all about the punctuation.

warm plinth
#

He had to take over for Macro

ionic fern
tender cove
#

I was wrong, it was this

warm plinth
#

Oh. That's good for damage anyway

pallid quiver
#

I'm impressed I don't have Jakey down my throat on a daily basis considering how stupid I am

warm plinth
#

No haste is feelsbad though

ionic fern
#

๐Ÿ˜‚

tender cove
#

Wetstone and grieftorch is obsolete for me right?

ionic fern
#

Yes.

warm plinth
#

Whew. Freak got the goats from days past

ionic fern
#

Just pop on Boon and go ham in AoE.

tender cove
#

I even had wetstone drop thrice and gave one to our warlock GM over a rogue i think. That drama was hilarious.

#

rogue pug*

#

Ohh, i tried the webcam the other day and i think it would work good for streaming... Is there something about all of that, that is good to know now, before starting so to speak?

#

Or its just setup obs, fix some overlay for the webcam and open a twitch account?

ionic fern
#

Think that's that.

#

Idk tho, don't stream.

warm plinth
#

You can get Nvidia broadcast

tender cove
#

I have that yes, cant delete it lol

warm plinth
#

Which lets you do a transparent background which works very well

#

I can see my chair in it but anything past that is invisible

tender cove
#

What about mic? Do you stream headset? Or just music? Or discord or?

warm plinth
#

I stream headset, so game sound and discord

tender cove
#

Can you avoid the whole copyright stuff when streaming music in the background?

warm plinth
#

I can't game with music; it distracts me

potent anvil
#

2 more keys and I'm 444... seramore

warm plinth
#

Not if you're streaming the music, no

tender cove
warm plinth
#

Do you bormally have the music through your headset?

tender cove
#

If im not on discord, i just play music on the speakers

warm plinth
#

Well, you can either play the music through your speakers or I think there's software that will let you split it from the rest of your audio so you can stream everything but the music

#

I'm not familiar with the software but I'm fairly sure something like that exists

ionic fern
lavish sphinx
#

There are more MW Monks over 3k io on my server than PWarrs lol

tender cove
#

is this ok?

#

or to shit?

#

wait, why did my name become "F..."

#

๐Ÿ˜ฎ

pallid quiver
#

Discord detected OBS running

#

So it put itself into Streamer mode

#

It hides everyone's usernames like that so people can't get doxxed or something

tender cove
#

Hmmm... How I put it over the wow capture? :S

south zealot
#

might be onto something..

ionic fern
#

It's fine

tender cove
#

nvm i figured it out. has to be in the same thingy

pallid quiver
ionic fern
pallid quiver
#

sell them to me now

tender cove
pallid quiver
#

i'll give you 10g

tender cove
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do someone mind checking if it works on twitch and if the quality is decent?

ionic fern
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DM me the link.

pallid quiver
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smh not just looking him up on twitch

ionic fern
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I can't stand opening Twitch anymore.

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You open Twitch and you're fed with some female streamers "just chatting" with stream names like "BATHTHUD JHIHGIHGIHGIGIGIGI".

pallid quiver
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I just connect directly to my following list

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I never touch front page

tender cove
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soon as I open my own twitch it breaks and starts lagging until firefox crashes

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doesnt really give good hope lol

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is it just me or do you guys also feel uncomfortable seeing yourself like this ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

ionic fern
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You'll get used to it.

tender cove
pallid quiver
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I hate being acknowledged in general so
Funny enough, I mind recordings and the like less on average because I'm just used to using them to improve. It just drives up my self hate when I see past me do stupid shit

tender cove
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Im not sure if its just for me but soon as I try to check, its extreme lag on both wow but specially my cam

ionic fern
tender cove
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in terms of performance i mean

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and does it matter if i record/stream or just stream=

ionic fern
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I have no idea. ๐Ÿ‘€

strong forum
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I stream at 40 fps

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Cuz 1080p60fps is really heavy on your bitrate and computing power

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40 fps is still very smooth viewing experience whilst having good quality and not requiring as much computing power to render

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And 720p60fps just looks whack

strong forum
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It eats insane amount of resources for no reason

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I recommend getting a chat app, like chatterino instead of using twitch chat
And then adding extra panels in obs to view the stream setting and alert box inside OBS

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That way you don't lose any fps from your browser

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It's really annoying that nobody tells you any of this.
I had to find out all of this shit on my own over the years before I was actually happy with my streams setup and performance