protection

[urban portal]

You are lucky that they even work

[lusty tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i love one particular private server

very lowkey

[urban portal]

It better be ascension

[lusty tiger]

it isnt

[urban portal]

Lame

[lusty tiger]

: D

[urban portal]

Are there any good legion privs yet

[lusty tiger]

my buddy played on one

i can ask him for it because i forget

[uneven mason]

Ya'll kids complaining about 100ping, back in my day I played a sniper with 780 ping in TFC, and I about shit my depends when I upgraded to 128k DSL and got 320 ping in Everquest

[blazing condor]

TW is so silly everything dies in 5 seconds but bosses also have abilities that 1 shot you

[cyan chasm]

🙂

That one dungeon in wrath with the final boss being some tri face lookin decepticon is that bad, it has a bolt or some shit that just one shots it's dumb

[uneven mason]

Read the tooltips

[sick sentinel]

if you are talking about hallss of relection final boss , thats a skill issue

DIDNOTICANNOTREAD

[uneven mason]

"Mirrored Soul"

ya'll need to let off the gas when that comes out

because its not the boss

[cyan chasm]

It's the one that has the dude that drop papa's bag

[uneven mason]

it's your Pyromaniac Mage oneshotting out

I know the boss and the mechanic, its splitting damage taken with you

so when your DPS are just fapping away

you'll die

[sick sentinel]

oh, i have no real clue about his mechanics

hes just chillin playin music

[cyan chasm]

Bigwigs doesn't yell at me about it

[uneven mason]

#skillproblems

[sick sentinel]

the final boss has 3 faces and it puts up a buff/debuff on itself/you that TLDR you take dmg equal to what you attacked boss for

[cyan chasm]

I'm sorry idk mechanics from a 1000 year old expansion

[sick sentinel]

and that can "1 shot" you

out of no where

[cyan chasm]

Kk thanks man 🙂 It will not murder me next wotlk twalking

[uneven mason]

its a channeled spell

turn on enemy cast bars

[sick sentinel]

if you have a macro to "stop attacking" in chat for similiar scenarios

that works but its TW

worst case it nukes 1 or 2 guys

[uneven mason]

same reason why Bigwigs didn't yell

old dungeons

[sick sentinel]

u can install dbm for old world

[uneven mason]

yeah, then again, I remember mechanics from the land before time, I can recite the tactics for nearly every encounter prior to 2010, after that it gets a bit hazy

can't remember where the fuck my glasses are

but I remember how to deal with Tunat Muram Tuu'vaxau

[sick sentinel]

I know 90% of wow mechanics excluding wod and legion

wod and legion i have about 5% completion on

[lusty tiger]

👴

[strong forum]

sir ive played in TBC and Wrath with 10min loading screens

i also still know about installing wow with 8 CDs

[opaque quest]

6 CDs

[proper roost]

the older people are, the worse they are at the game

[lusty tiger]

i remember all the CDs

[proper roost]

[opaque quest]

Pretty sure it was 6 after they swapped to dvd

[opaque quest]

Why do you have to hurt me in this way

[strong forum]

okay apparently it was only 4 for classic

[lusty tiger]

so does that mean babies are as good as LCS players

[sick sentinel]

the fucking 2004 manaul

[opaque quest]

Ye and 2 for BC

[sick sentinel]

states i get fucking healing aura on my paladin

bitch plz

never got it

STILL MAD

[lusty tiger]

i remember calling blizz services because i kept entering the BC code wrong into my computer

[proper roost]

And anyone who has to cite how long they've played the game for credibility is 1000% giga confirmed dogshit at the game

because that means they have literally no other accomplishments that they had

in the "long time" they played

except for just playing it for a long time (while being shit)

[cyan chasm]

Sounds like my boss bitching to me because of my age lol excuses her actions of being an ass because she's older and has seen it all man idk

[opaque quest]

Baby

Just say ok boomer then dab

[proper roost]

always ppl talking about how they played the game since vanilla beta or whatever and they're commenting about M+ keys while being 1500 io

[opaque quest]

I play since classic and only have 3 cutting edges :/

[cyan chasm]

She brings that shit up over literally nothing could be changing a trash bag or something bitch would tell you how it was harder back in her day

[opaque quest]

CAUSE NO CE IN CATA

[opaque quest]

The type of person that walked uphill to AND from school

[cyan chasm]

Maybe that's why she's cranky all the time

[opaque quest]

Just use 4 rubbers and do it

[cyan chasm]

[uneven mason]

I remember when patches were mailed on floppies.

[tender cove]

I remember installing from 34 floppy disks.

[uneven mason]

Kings Quest 5?

[tender cove]

honestly cant remember the game, think it was dune from westwood studios

could also be duke nukem

those years are bit of a blend

[uneven mason]

DOOM was 8 floppies compressed

[tender cove]

i shoot a random number for effect. I was like 6 or 7 lol. Like i cant remember the day i actually installed it, i can just remember the floppy disks and having to change a gallizion times

[uneven mason]

Oh yeah another thing kiddos don't get to experience, those 3M tape backups, 5 hours to compress and store your HD so you avoid data loss.

selecting figuring out what IRQ/DMA ports your sound card could ru non

[tender cove]

tape backups are pretty widely used today but not so much for home use

[uneven mason]

Yeah hardly a home use thing

[tender cove]

I have plenty off customers who still require regular consistent offline backup copys as well as online retention.

[uneven mason]

I probably have a misalinged view of how many people actually saw them used in the home since my pops was head of Data Processing at the time, so he was probably doing it because like - "IT before it was IT"

[tender cove]

I honestly think its good, even if its always feels antiqueated, it is the sensibal approach to backups

[uneven mason]

You can't hack a cassette

[tender cove]

exactly and you can store it in a fireproof safe

[uneven mason]

Same reason why a lot of financial systems use COBOL

the language that makes Latin go "Bruh, arn't you dead?"

[tender cove]

this booster insisted that 10% VM is MUST for boosting... I rolled my eyes and just said sigh, really... Low an behold, who is getting farmed as we speak by a rogue? xD

[sick sentinel]

what is 10% vm

[tender cove]

warmode and 10% is the xp boost applied

[sick sentinel]

the original doom was a hail mary interplanetary, interstellar, time traveling, god guided perfect gem of a game

there was no better game for when it landed

[tender cove]

decent, quake, dune, doom all of them great great first generation games of my era

its pretty wild to see them rerelease like 20 years later and still be amazing

but nothing has really beat warcraft and warcraft 2 for me

forget the 3 and 4 with the 3d models etc, lame. Starcraft did it pretty good again, just another theme. but never really seen an RTS even close to those two

[sick sentinel]

more warcraft 2 for me than 1 but both are good

[lusty grotto]

i woudlnt do that

its no longer needed

and modifying it will result in a worse experience

[lusty tiger]

🤔

[lusty grotto]

what freakadin suggested, i meant

windows 10 and 11 are optimized enough for tcp/ip, its unneeded

[blazing condor]

accidentally traded away a ring that was much better than what i had same ring but the one i have was like 7/8 instead of 1/5

not used to new upgrade syst

[strong forum]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-exotic-tiger-king-never-recover-financially-broke-gif-16765645

[blazing condor]

honestly

im gonna craft 447 rings eventually but like

[sick sentinel]

windows 11 is weird but its good

[lusty grotto]

[blazing condor]

now i lose out

[sick sentinel]

its the new vista

[lusty grotto]

nah vista was garbage

[sick sentinel]

everyone shits on it cuz new and weird

but it runs ... OKAY

[lusty grotto]

no

it runs better than win10

"everyone" is a dumbass

[sick sentinel]

i have never had any hassle with any version of windows and i have used all of them

[lusty grotto]

i had multiple issues with vista

giga hot garbage

[sick sentinel]

maybe it was windows 7 or 8 i had

[lusty grotto]

if anyone puts vista and 11 together, i dismiss their comment entirely because they dont know what they are talking about

[sick sentinel]

it got shit on is what im saying

[tender cove]

windows 2k and me was my favorite versions

i wonder why they didnt just keep building on those

[lusty grotto]

ME was fucking garbage too

[sick sentinel]

it really wasn't

[proper roost]

ME was notoriously bad lmao

[tender cove]

it really was yogi xD

[sick sentinel]

it was 98/200 with more screensavers

[lusty grotto]

2000 was fine

ME was certainly not

[tender cove]

i think it was only rivaled by, fk, i cant remember what windows server, it might have been like 2000 prerelease, special limited edition fuckup mambo number 5

but one of them just had to be an evil fucking prank

[sick sentinel]

nah, it wasn't perfect but it ran just fine for me

[tender cove]

i wish i remember which one it was but my memory was pushed that out due to ptsd xD

[lusty grotto]

ME and Vista crashed games so much

[sick sentinel]

games crash all the time

old or new

[lusty grotto]

no

[sick sentinel]

doesn't matter

[lusty grotto]

bro

how can you fucking say

win 11 is like those

holy shit

just another yogi take

imcomprehensible

[sick sentinel]

i like windows 10 better but im using 11

[lusty grotto]

no win 10 isnt better

[sick sentinel]

windows 10 is perfect im sory

[tender cove]

win11 was pretty shit on release though, specially with games. There's a lot of community perception going into a lot of windows releases and in general? They're far far milder than people make them out to be...but to say certain versions wasnt just outright plauged with cancer is a blatant lie @sick sentinel

[proper roost]

yogi if you're having games crash frequently 💀

[sick sentinel]

windows xp and windows 10 and probably 3.0 and dos 6.0

those are, if your game is crashing, HW SW or skill issue

[lusty grotto]

casually skips 7

yeah note how you didnt include ME and Vista

because

they

were

garbage

[tender cove]

Yogi is a prime example off why you should never argue with yogis because the yogi will only bring you down to his level and beat you with experience lmao

[sick sentinel]

whats more important is having capable hardware

that has the potential to run some cool game

[lusty grotto]

no shit

[tender cove]

but can it run crysis though?

[proper roost]

IIRC one of the biggest reasons vista got maligned was because microsoft really forced the upgrade and it was significantly more demanding on hardware, so just a ton of people got it pushed who didn't have appropriate hardware to support it

kind of interesting

[lusty grotto]

ive been lan partying since quake2, you dont think ive had capable hardware on every rig?

[sick sentinel]

i did use ME

[proper roost]

i still wonder every day what yogi does for a living

[sick sentinel]

and it was okay

[proper roost]

he speaks so deeply confidently on everything.

anything he has an opinion on

[tender cove]

i doubt even he knows

[proper roost]

yogi is an expert

[lusty grotto]

like i feel insulted at the insinuation

[proper roost]

it is pretty much peak boomer

attitude

[inland raft]

Yogi is kramer from seinfeld

[tender cove]

people who even know all the boomer, sommer and whatever they all are, those need help. Just saying brah

The younger generation has it so fucking easy you have to make up problems

its hilarious as its tragic to watch

[sick sentinel]

pre-internet was if you didnt know you were fucked

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-no-nope-gif-5413974953753901704

[sick sentinel]

there was no google maps when you got lost biking

or when the store closes so u can get bag of chips

[lusty grotto]

yogi

im a couple of years younger than you

you dont have to old man me

i lived that shit

jesus christ

[toxic pewter]

I am very old individual some say the oldest

[rustic knot]

Guild finally decided to let the tank who didn't want to be tanking, and me the dps who didn't want to be dpsing swap to our rightful roles

Today is a landmark

[lusty grotto]

nice

[inland raft]

People actually willingly raid tank?

[rustic knot]

When the alternate is to play boomie yes

[toxic pewter]

should wipe the raid continuously to assert dominance and to never doubt you again

[rustic knot]

Raid tanking is fun cus I can turn my brain off and ignore floor

We're only 480 pulls deep on M sark

[sick sentinel]

raid tanking is fun until you get 1 shot and then cant explain why

[inland raft]

I like to tank m+ and do big dam, i hate raid tanking its so mind numbing

[proper roost]

🤦

[sick sentinel]

there is not a worse feeling in a raid when you are the tank and you die and its your fault and the raid wipes

[rustic knot]

If you don't know what you died to/why that's often not a design issue it's a knowledge issue tho

Dying as a tank is a tank issue

Outside of you called for externals and just didn't receive them

[inland raft]

Tbf outside first couple pulls externals should be preplanned

[rustic knot]

Especially as a late guild with access to hundreds of logs to see what's scripted as far as defensives

It'd a cakewalk

Unfortunately I'm not get confident on my warrior/geared enough so it'll be on the bear

[tender cove]

480 pulls...jesus

[rustic knot]

And the end isn't even close....

[inland raft]

Raid tanking is just following a script and pressing buttons at specific times in that script

[rustic knot]

Truuu

[tender cove]

I get brain hemmorage just thinking about it.

I dont even raid so have no idea how hard the boss is tbh. Just staggering that blizzard still caters to such a gamemode

[rustic knot]

Me too my friend, since about pull 300 it's been a 50/50 shot of losing people p1/p2 then wiping, or making it 1 bomb set into p3 before wiping

So like still 3 ish minutes of fight to learn

10.2 tho I'm busting the warr back out, it's been my plan for a few months but just hadn't been in the cards

[inland raft]

I stopped raiding altogether with df ill pug hc for trinkets but i find i enjoy the game far more now that dont have a schedule

[whole narwhal]

i saw a new legendary, that was enough

[tender cove]

for sure, i miss raiding because its more fun than m+ but just the thought of committing 2-3 nights every week consistently to beat a game. nah, not happening anymore.

[rustic knot]

I almost quit raiding this past week, because I despise dps that much, but I can brain off tank for 3 hours since I'm not doing any m+

I raid log and play hardcore mostly

Soon you goons will get to shit on my prot logs when 10.2 lands

[toxic pewter]

need to quit the guild or reform the guild

its just not gonna happen if you arent even close to downing the boss with 500 pulls

[toxic pewter]

Ok lmk how its goin when you hit 1k

[grim pilot]

nah it might happen but it's giga cringe if people are dying in p1/p2 after 300+ pulls

[plush tendon]

all it takes is one good pull

[inland raft]

See i prefer m+ but i dont push anymore i chill with friends on weekends and knock out a couple weekly keys while bsing in discord

[grim pilot]

p2 you barely take any damage and p1 is just remember to pref deffs or health pots

[inland raft]

Then play something else

[plush tendon]

[tender cove]

Can i be your friend too?

[rustic knot]

I'll let you know again at 1.5

[toxic pewter]

sound good

[inland raft]

Damn no friends that play wow?

I wouldnt play at all without homies

Fuuuuck when you get to the gym and realize dont have your earbuds

[mighty valley]

same, so many people just seem to hate everyone they play wow with and it boggles my mind

[toxic pewter]

all my 'friends' end up holding me back.. like I want to push the limits and they barely can do a 12 or somethin

so I end up just goin my own way

[lusty tiger]

12s are hard

[toxic pewter]

even in hardcore, I would have people with me, but I had to go my own way, they were almost getting me killed and shit

its awkward and offputting

[inland raft]

If you like your friends it wont matter the content

[toxic pewter]

So why even play the game, just sit in discord and chat with them

or meet irl

I am over here to win and do big things

[inland raft]

My friends struggle in 20s i often am top dps

But its fun to just chill with them

[toxic pewter]

I do not chill

I am always at max

[inland raft]

I used to be that way, bfa i was always pushing but game is more fun when learn to just chill

[lusty tiger]

Except with stances

APB = @ max - stances

[rustic knot]

U got a quarter pound of meat in u?

Odd flex man

[lusty grotto]

hey dont kink shame

[lusty tiger]

Sure do

[plush tendon]

god, costco is soo good

[chilly brook]

I want Costco hotdog

[lusty tiger]

Just a bunch of hot dogs

[lusty grotto]

costco food is goated

[whole narwhal]

the chicken afredo slaps

[mighty valley]

love the time someone on the costco board suggested increasing the price of the hot dog and the ceo said "if you do that i will fucking kill you"

[lusty grotto]

best ceo ever

"i will shove my arm so far up your ass..."

[lusty tiger]

You’ll make em talk like a human puppet?

[lusty grotto]

he will yes

amongst other things

[opaque quest]

You guys need to do TW

I did 4 chars, got 4 trinkets, 3 essences and 1 flowstone wtf

Trinket week bois

[blazing condor]

ur wrong

i got a waist

aka TW is a waist of time

[lusty grotto]

evokechip got

some garbage i think

[dusky canopy]

3 whole essences

That’s pretty impressive rng

[modern gazelle]

Break the meta time to shine as pwar!

[tender cove]

would a logitech c922 pro hd be good enough to stream on? I just bought it for skype/zoom meetings etc but figured maybe try it?

[warm plinth]

if it streams HD then it's good enough to stream with

[strong forum]

any kind of cam is good enough

[tender cove]

yeh its 60fps at 720p or 30 at 1080p

[strong forum]

dont get baited thinking you need an expensive setup to stream

[warm plinth]

yeah it'll be fine. No one really cares what your cam looks like as long as it isn't 5 pixels

[tender cove]

haha, fair enough

[warm plinth]

You just don't want it to be distractingly bad

I use a uh

razer kiyo x

which is nothing fancy

and I got affiliate with a like $30 logitech one

[lusty tiger]

ive been wanting to get a webcam

[tender cove]

nice, gonna try it when i get home then. It came with a nifty little tripod so should be easy, wont have a mic outside my regular bose nc headset but should be fine i guess?

[strong forum]

some of the most successful streamers on twitch are literally using regular ass headset mic

[warm plinth]

I bought a separate mic and it's still sitting on my counter unused. I just use my a40s 🤷

[strong forum]

like equipment don matter

[warm plinth]

Again, as long as the quality isn't distractingly bad

then it's fine

[tender cove]

i guess its more about quality than trying to polish a turd and showing that lol

[warm plinth]

like the stream is about content

[strong forum]

what matters is the content

[warm plinth]

no one cares about your equipment

[lusty tiger]

if u dont have senheisers and an amp/dac u suck

(jk)

[tender cove]

haha :p

[lusty tiger]

nome onlyfans when

[tender cove]

isnt the richest onlyfans profile a man?

[lusty tiger]

bg3 onlyfans

[lusty tiger]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

it's mine

[tender cove]

i vaguely remember reading about it the other week, some rapper that make millions a month from it and just struck me as funny, thats its not a girl making the most.

[warm plinth]

remember that time onlyfans tried to block sexual content from their platform

[lusty tiger]

tyga mayb?

because he was making content with some celebrity or something

[tender cove]

could be or that controversial guy, not birdman but fk, im not into all that stuff

i usually get it sent to me or see it on 9gag xD

[tender cove]

if I could, i'd do onlyfans... The top 10% off such content make about 50k per week

[warm plinth]

Anyone can do onlyfans

[strong forum]

pretty sure its amouranth

[tender cove]

Even if i could only make it into the worst 10% of that echelon? Thats still 5k per week. I'd do a lot of things for 20k per month

xD

shit, imagine the therapists i could afford just setting aside 20% of that. big brain 😛

[strong forum]

like with everything in the world, the top 1% hold 99% of the wealth

same goes for onlyfans

top 10% is not 50k per week my guy

[tender cove]

prety sure aint nobody wanna pay to see me bro

[strong forum]

50k per week is top 0.1%

[tender cove]

yeh, i know tons of girls that have tried and fail

just regular girls thinking their instagram likes means the world must love them...yeh, didnt work that way out

[lusty tiger]

sounds like some nice girls

[warm plinth]

You'd be surprised what people will pay to see.

[tender cove]

Had a friend who wore underwear and sold them as used girls panties. There's a market for everything, thats true

shit, just that girl selling people her bathwater blew my mind

[lusty tiger]

hm i wonder if theres a market for used socks

[modern brook]

I need socks

Is there a discount cause they're used?

[lusty tiger]

theyre... dry aged...

double cost sorry

[modern brook]

I'm too poor

I mean

Uhhh

I only wear designer clothes

So I didnt want them anywyas

[lusty grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/eww-god-no-nasty-gross-disgusting-gif-17172294

[lusty tiger]

im making an only fans to advertise my prot war stream

[strong forum]

technically possible

nsfw content is not a must, just allowed on there

[lusty tiger]

people will come for the nsfw content and stay for the pwar content

[plush tendon]

Isnt that just called Twitch?

[lapis smelt]

enough shield slam resets and the stream is NSFW anyway

[strong forum]

tru

[lusty tiger]

100%

filthy af

[plush tendon]

nothing sexier then seeing a warrior waste no rage

and hitting those outburst procs with a phat SS

[fickle ingot]

Come

[lapis smelt]

*insert reused joke about thunderclapping cheeks*

[blazing condor]

Anal [Thunderclap]

[lusty tiger]

Anal [Ravager]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/developers-are-still-not-getting-what-made-wow-so-good-in-the-first-place/1678972

[blazing condor]

surely the biggest factor in why WoW had more players in 2009 was because the game was inherently better

[warm plinth]

what spec has more than a 5 button rotation?

[lusty grotto]

boomer takes

not surprising from the wow forums

[lusty tiger]

@lusty grotto im trying ff14 this weekend, any advice?

[lusty grotto]

theres no advice to be given

its pretty straightforward

youre just gonna have to tolerate the massively long gcd

fortunately with the free trial you get 2 additional expansions worth, so you might be able to get some off-cds

which will make it better, but thats just later

[lusty tiger]

imma just buy the whole thing

try it all

[strong forum]

does he really think, going from mythic raid difficulty wow offers now, back down to normal raid difficulty (which is what ICC difficulty level is compared to current wow) where your optimal rotation is extremely simple gonna turn out to be a success?

[lusty tiger]

https://tenor.com/view/now-old-man-the-future-is-now-old-man-gif-9677657

[strong forum]

but i guess im actually an elitist in that

cuz classic raids are popular

[lusty tiger]

ya nome ur too good you wouldnt understand

lol

[strong forum]

cuz everybody and their mom clears them

[lusty grotto]

everyone is too good

[dusky canopy]

I think it’s fair to say they’re popular because they are much easier for the boomer audience

[lusty grotto]

if i wanted to play some dogshit ezmode crap i would play more classic

and im not

[strong forum]

nah i think the appeal of classic is actually because the game is piss easy

[lusty grotto]

more nostalgia than anything

[lusty tiger]

its social hour for drinkin and pissin

[strong forum]

its not appealing to me

[lusty grotto]

and/or people that didnt play back then

[strong forum]

but its appealing to EVIDENTLY alot of people

[lusty grotto]

this is so weird

[strong forum]

so maybe i am wrong

[lusty grotto]

people say it is popular

but then you see videos of absolutely deserted dalaran

or cities

like

what the fuck?

[lusty tiger]

big realms are BIG

[strong forum]

you can just look at the # of parses

[lusty tiger]

when i log into benediction it is stacked

^^

[strong forum]

classic has more than 10x the amount of parses

per raid

[lusty tiger]

apparently 400k hunters have died since hardcore realms released?

[strong forum]

can you figure out which is classic and which is normal abberrus raid

[lusty grotto]

sure but

[lusty tiger]

WILD

[lusty grotto]

it doesnt help that retail is so fratured either

[strong forum]

okay thats heroic

but still

[lusty grotto]

4 difficulties of the same raid

[strong forum]

well sure

heroic/normal is the most representative however

[lusty grotto]

like parses in classic should be compared to LFR + Normal + Heroic + Mythic

cause you know LFR in retail is somewhat similar to classic raiding

[strong forum]

well thats disingenuine

cuz you can do multiple difficulties on retail

[lusty grotto]

and also not a lot of people even log in LFR cause its LFR

[strong forum]

but not on classic

[lusty tiger]

i like to log lfr

[lusty grotto]

idk about that

usually people stick to one diff

yes, its possible

but its not the norm

[lusty tiger]

if u added them all there would be a lot of double, triple, quadruple counts

[lusty grotto]

no

there wouldnt

[lusty tiger]

i would wager enough to give the wrong idea

[lusty grotto]

i disagree

[lusty tiger]

well every mythic guild clears heroic

[lusty grotto]

#protection message

[strong forum]

even if you add all them together

you still only get, at best, half of classic

like normal + hc (by far the most popular) the most popular class is only 40% of the most popular on classic

so like idk

maybe the easymode version of wow is actually better for the health of the game

[lusty tiger]

it is

[lusty grotto]

well i dont disagree with that

[strong forum]

or well, atleast monetary

[lusty tiger]

keeps the lights on

wow tokens in classic was genius

[lusty grotto]

however, i still think if you squashed all 4 difficulties the numbers might be better for retail

i just think its not a difficulty thing

its just raiding in classic was just easier to get into

for different reasons

easier raid = easier to get into

[strong forum]

well

that means its less difficult

[lusty tiger]

ok and guess what

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/bring-back-borrowed-power-like-essences-and-corruption/1679233

[warm plinth]

now that's a fucking blazing hot take

[lusty grotto]

retail is not easy to get into, fucking lockouts and mythic server locking garbage and shit

[modern brook]

I fucking called it

In bfa

[lusty tiger]

the 4:20 take

[modern brook]

That we'd have people saying they missed bfa

[strong forum]

i was never against AP or sensible TF

[lusty tiger]

i was

[strong forum]

legit called it from 13 lightyears away

[modern brook]

Despite literally no one saying a good thing about the expansion for its entire life

[sharp dagger]

I'm trying to 100% find the diminishing return for Crit. Does anyone know what it is?

[warm plinth]

"Rare trinkets are boring and never drop"
"Corruptions are boring and never drop"
"Azerite pieces are boring and gambling never gives me the one I want"

[strong forum]

that m+ will feel fruitless without TF

[lusty grotto]

so consider the fact that blizzard said they would stop designing the game for the 1% and then they make a mythic raid where the first boss is the most absolute fucking garbage to pug

[lusty tiger]

somewhat true

[warm plinth]

I liked titanforging

[strong forum]

and a bit of AP farming here and there was a feel good moment

[lusty tiger]

🤔

[strong forum]

i said what i said

[modern brook]

We literally are playing ina. Wow where we have access to multiple legendary affects and talent combinations we haven't had access to in decades

And people are still complaining their player power isn't gifted to then

[warm plinth]

Island expeditions were actually really popular so I can't disagree with the AP farming entirely

[lusty tiger]

yea and theyre given for hitting max level it is amazing

[warm plinth]

I didn't like it but a lot of people loved islands

[strong forum]

i liked just doing an AP WQ swoop here and there

[lusty grotto]

idk those were pretty empty by s3

[strong forum]

knowing im working towards something

[strong forum]

replaced by pvp islands cuz they were 2x faster

[lusty tiger]

would rather work toward my io or profession

pvp islands were p cool

[strong forum]

but that doesnt make me stronger

[lusty grotto]

yeah nome that queue took forever

[strong forum]

idk was always fine for me and my group lul

queue with 2 of your guild

[modern brook]

Based take

[strong forum]

go in and stomp nerds rq

[lusty grotto]

[modern brook]

Ap grind took away from the tertiary systems of wow

[strong forum]

its not even a grind bro

you do maybe 2 WQ sweeps a week

and 3 islands per week

[lusty grotto]

its boring

and work

[modern brook]

My guys throwing an and in there and still typing smh

[strong forum]

aka solo content that contributed to your character

[lusty grotto]

i wanna log in cause i want to play

not because i need to

[strong forum]

yeah same

i want to get stronger

now i cant

[lusty tiger]

would rather icyhot my balls

[strong forum]

fact remains

DF offers nothing for you to do as solo player

[lusty tiger]

the dream events r cool

[jagged pier]

apart from all the casual content they have added in

[lusty tiger]

there was the 1.0.7 island

[lusty grotto]

there is solo content, the problem is that the rewards are dogshit recolors

[modern brook]

Df offers nothing that directly increases avatar str**** that you can do as a solo player

[lusty grotto]

in ffxiv there's solo content and you get some absolutely amazing transmog or completely different mount

[modern brook]

I'd argue that's good

[lusty grotto]

but that's super non-existent in wow

[lusty tiger]

retail's version of that is old raids

[lusty grotto]

theres old raids in ffxiv too

[modern brook]

Unless the raid isn't old enough

[lusty tiger]

LOL

[lusty grotto]

unsync'ed if you wanna solo them

[strong forum]

ye

that part is missing

[modern brook]

Love doing nath runs on personal loot on the entire loot table

Just want some pants bro

[blazing condor]

i love trinkets not existing in this game

ran entire raid + weekly + like 8 Nelt lairs

[modern brook]

I had a 398 whelp trinket for so long sude

[blazing condor]

[modern brook]

I think I replaced it week 6 or something

[blazing condor]

aware

i still got 408 all totem

[strong forum]

maybe i should quit wow

[lusty tiger]

as long as u dont quit this discord

[blazing condor]

but whos gonna craft theories

[lusty tiger]

nome but from the armchair of his armchair

@strong forum ff14 this weekend?

[strong forum]

fuck that

rather stare at the ceiling

[sick sentinel]

im starting up an old ps1 game

game goes on forever hard as hell

[modern brook]

Bro I just got a new ceiling if ur tryna

[lusty tiger]

Woooaaah

https://tenor.com/view/youlostman-1blocked-message-whg-worlds-hardest-game-gif-24266487

[lusty grotto]

ngl nome im pretty sure you would enjoy parsing/doing ultimates

and even savages

[strong forum]

i only enjoy raiding cuz of loot and to banter with the boys

not because i actually like raiding

[lusty grotto]

well i like both

[strong forum]

im like level 54 in FF and so far i hated every second of combat

insanely unfun

[lusty grotto]

yeah cause combat is pretty bad by then

thats just a huge problem with ffxiv

they have done some arrangements where they shift how early you get certain abilities so its not as bad now

but its still bad

especially for players coming from WoW

[strong forum]

i know its supposed to be starting to get good after the first xpac

but like

[lusty grotto]

and honestly i cant tell someone to just stick through garbage until it gets better

but it is pretty damn fun at the higher lvl

[strong forum]

idk

combat animations are a huge turnoff

[lusty tiger]

Agree

They look like wizard 101 animations

[strong forum]

worst part is youre sliding across the floor instead of running

its not smooth like wow

[lusty tiger]

I kinda like this

[strong forum]

what

[lusty tiger]

It is sorta funny idk

[lusty grotto]

it is notably different for sure

[strong forum]

nah idk when youre used to wow combat

any other MMOs combat is trash

[jagged pier]

The worst thing is warrior cant use a sword and a shield

[lusty tiger]

That is pretty rough

[strong forum]

legit only paladin is shield user

like

[lusty grotto]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDxIatgsrLM but then you dont get this amazing shit

[strong forum]

get me out

[lusty grotto]

just watch it

LOL

[strong forum]

i saw

i hate it

[jagged pier]

Also i have to do the story

[strong forum]

nothing worse than sliding

[jagged pier]

I dont want to do the story

[lusty grotto]

those drifts

[jagged pier]

I cba

[strong forum]

or "lack of animation"

[modern brook]

This is what people were calling a wow killer lmao

[jagged pier]

I mean it kinda did during SLs

Ppl are just kinda done with mmos at this point

[lusty grotto]

idk but that video is funny as fuck

[lusty tiger]

I liked it

[lusty grotto]

going back to og wow for a second

i feel like there's one thing i miss most of all

[dusky canopy]

New mmos will always struggle because they are directly compared to wow

[lusty grotto]

tbc's bring the player not the class

[dusky canopy]

And imo wows combat feel is unmatched

[lusty grotto]

i feel like bring the class not the player is fucking dogshit in contrast

[jagged pier]

Lmao no

[lusty grotto]

and the best point should be somewhere halfway

both extremes are just bad

[modern brook]

I mean were there now tbh

Wows problem is that 90% of its player base are clueless sheep

[lusty grotto]

perhaps

[strong forum]

we're literally at the extreme of bring the class

buff matrix is horrendous rn

[dusky canopy]

It’s either gotta be each class has a raid buff or no class has one

[modern brook]

If you ignore aug like we all should so they remove that dogsgit from the game. Class only matters in rwf and high keys

[dusky canopy]

Anything in between isolates comp

[strong forum]

mage, warrior, monk, dh, priest, warlock, druid, paladin

are all hardlocked

then obv you want an evoker cuz zephyr

[modern brook]

That's literally 75% of the game

[strong forum]

🙂

exactly

[lusty grotto]

yeah idk, i just feel like their philosophy should try to go for that happy medium

[dusky canopy]

Agree!

[lusty grotto]

instead of announcing "HEY BRING THE CLASS NOT THE PLAYER"

[modern brook]

I'm misunderstanding you then

[lusty grotto]

nobody wants to lose class identity

and yet nobody wants to be playing a class that nobody wants

so

[modern brook]

My point is if you're losing on rashok on week 14 it's not cause you don't have a rally

[lusty grotto]

halfway

[jagged pier]

U loose class buffs suddenly those classes are bought thats the issue

[strong forum]

well duh

[jagged pier]

Cause the top guilds will bring 7 of the best class and then as we know the community will follow suit

[strong forum]

but a shit player that brings a raidbuff

is better than a shit player that doesnt bring it

[dusky canopy]

Right now I think like everyone having a desired raid buff honestly

[jagged pier]

Hunter bringing 1% Lmao

[dusky canopy]

Seeing 5 warlocks because they’re tuned out the ass is boring

[jagged pier]

So worth

[waxen vale]

Dorki says prot war feels beast on ptr

[dusky canopy]

They definitely need to bump this up lol

[waxen vale]

Sounds like he liked it the best along with monk

[jagged pier]

It just needs to effect execute as well

Fixed

[lusty grotto]

yeah hunters mark is a joke right now

[dusky canopy]

I still think hunters mark should give Crit damage % the whole fight

[lusty grotto]

but at least they are starting to move in that direction

[modern brook]

Idg why hunters complain the buff lasts exactly as long as they're alive

[dusky canopy]

[lusty grotto]

idk if that's copium though 😎

[waxen vale]

We gonna see prot warr dominance early patch only to get rugpulled to a buff again?

[jagged pier]

No it shouldnt be hunters mark tehy should just brig back aspect kf the fox but make it share cd across the raid

So u cant spam it

[strong forum]

warrior wont dominate anything

[jagged pier]

No

[waxen vale]

How u know

[strong forum]

cuz BDK is better

[jagged pier]

^^

[strong forum]

and paladin is also really strong

and VDH once the bugs are fixed is really fucking good in aoe

but turbo garbage in ST

[waxen vale]

I swear everyone i talk to says something diff but when u say paladin. Now i know you're joking

[strong forum]

uhuh

[jagged pier]

Yes because nome was joke week 1 of DF where he said paladin was slept on

Turns out he was correct

And by far the best tank

[strong forum]

pwar is so good that it does less dmg than BDK bro

and thats without a BDK legendary

[jagged pier]

Do ppl not think maybe nome has access to more information than they do. Probably more information that streamers have

[waxen vale]

I'm talking about next patch just so we clear

[strong forum]

same

pwar is among the lowest DPS tanks

next patch

[waxen vale]

Well that wasnt dorkis experience

[dusky canopy]

Holy

[jagged pier]

Because they refuse to talk about it with anyone and just go my opinion is best because i need to make a tier list for money

[dusky canopy]

[waxen vale]

He said iis highest overall was warre

[modern brook]

This is like exactly what im talking about for the record

[strong forum]

cuz he plays the wrong build on BDK

so no suprise there

[waxen vale]

Prot paladin tho yall serious

[jagged pier]

And he must play warrior wrong too as the tier set was his top damage when we checked last

Before the nerf

Of course

[strong forum]

on a 3min pull andy did 182k dps on paladin, 185k dps on bdk and only 144k dps on pwar

[waxen vale]

I mained it for the last 3 years so i do have knowledge of the spec

Cant say anything good atm about that tier set

[strong forum]

the tier is shit when you have to move and you dont actively play around it yes

but its good when you can stand still

[waxen vale]

Its more than shit it will be hell to play

[jagged pier]

When do paladins not stand in conc tho?

[strong forum]

the issue is

[waxen vale]

Its not about that

[strong forum]

they cant overwrite consc

if you overwrite your proc

its gone

[waxen vale]

You lose the buff if you accidentally re apply it out of habit

[strong forum]

the QoL of the set is absolute garbage

[waxen vale]

You need a weakaura to tracjk the procs

[strong forum]

well yeah

[jagged pier]

Well easy fix just dont be bad

🤷

[waxen vale]

You have to save procd and go without consecration end of pull

If you want it for the next one

Being good or bad doesn't fix that

[strong forum]

but yeah the timeline rn looks to be

[waxen vale]

And having to learn when to not press a habitual button people been pressing for 10 years lmao

With zero thought

[strong forum]

VDH and Pwar get hyped up alot rn

which uh should be done cautiously

very cautiously

my prediction is, is that BDK will be turbo broken dps wise with the legendary

[inland raft]

Problem with pally is most prots have a long tike built in havit of redropping consecrate during empty globals to make sure never drops off, dorki was doing it while actively thinking about it because muscle memory

[strong forum]

VDH looking to be MDI tank

[jagged pier]

Muscle memory isnt that hard to break.

[waxen vale]

Well if theres no clear winner maybe we'll have another season of great balance

[lusty grotto]

idk feels like brew has been way more hyped than those

[strong forum]

the patch is not for another like 5+ weeks

[lusty grotto]

but yeah hype is hype

[strong forum]

balancing hasnt happened yet

so like

everything is up in the air

[jagged pier]

Lmao they need to fix our tier set

[chilly brook]

Tanked the raid for the first time last night

[waxen vale]

I'm worried tho that having tk decide when to hold consecration (a main dr we used to have 100% uptime) is not good

[jagged pier]

For ST

[maiden nimbus]

In a pug +20 halls, what’s the best way to handle the adds on the last boss? The groups not coordinated so should we just interrupt and kill one by one?

[chilly brook]

Ironically this is the guy who said prot couldn’t hold aggro against blood

[lusty grotto]

kick all 4 and play stops or, have people cc them out of cast (and keep them cc'd)

[jagged pier]

U do that because then your SR does more damage and u kill the boss faster

[inland raft]

Time to save horsee to run away at end of pulls when cant afford to recast consecrate

[strong forum]

wat

[lusty grotto]

those are your 2 options

[strong forum]

BDK is currently the lowest raid DPS tank

how can he unironically say "cant hold aggro against bdk"

[jagged pier]

Because as we know nome most prots are bad

[waxen vale]

Who tf cares really about raid dps

Idk why they even balance around that

[jagged pier]

Because thats all there is for raid

U dont die

[waxen vale]

They care more about that than mplus dps

Where it matters 10x more

[jagged pier]

Because the game is balanced around raiding not m+ because in general more ppl do mythic than 20 keys

👍

[chilly brook]

Bro made an argument that warrior couldn’t do damage and when I brought up the fact that good players don’t sit in d-stance but he essentially said that you can’t use top players as an example

[lusty grotto]

lmao

[jagged pier]

Lmao

[lusty grotto]

i love people that say that

[waxen vale]

And yet the difference in 5k dps from a tank has made or breaked how many raids

[dusky canopy]

Wait really?

[strong forum]

the game gets more balanced around raid

[lusty grotto]

such a stupid take "dont use top players as an example"

[maiden nimbus]

Ty

[chilly brook]

He literally said “what’s more likely that people are bad or that the class is terrible?”

[lusty grotto]

always 100% of the time

[strong forum]

xdd

[lusty grotto]

jesus fuck lmao

[strong forum]

i hope he ate his words

[jagged pier]

Well maybe not 20s but the higher u go in m+ the less ppl do it cant remeber the actual number

[strong forum]

after the boss

[waxen vale]

I successfully tanked herlic sark doing 18k dps for the first time on warr co tanking with a VDH doing 70

[sick sentinel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bdj8L4nhSQ for reference, this is the average working a job normal guy playing a game, just take note of how much of struggle it is for him to learn new things and perform normal tasks

[chilly brook]

Then I come tank for the first time and do a 99 on first boss pulling like 90k

[sick sentinel]

like when you are talking about alot of prots are bad

[jagged pier]

But they aint ever gunna balance anything around m+ its not the flagship content raid always is

[sick sentinel]

and i agree with you and i have a good example of that type of player

[waxen vale]

You will lose aggro. You just have to plan ur taunts for the tank abilities. Luckily you got 2

[dusky canopy]

M+ is kinda dog tbh

Now that I’m mythic raiding

It is way more fun

[jagged pier]

Come to the darkside yes

[chilly brook]

Homie didn’t say a damn thing but I did make a tongue in cheek remark about it being a shame that warrior can’t keep aggro after

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

[waxen vale]

Wars like the only tank with 2 taunts so

That is embarrassing

[lusty tiger]

I was gonna mythic raid but didn’t want to play brm so they didn’t want me

[jagged pier]

Good stay by your morales

[waxen vale]

Although you'd never take challenging shout generaly

In raid

[dusky canopy]

Fuck that Jeree

[lusty tiger]

👌

[dusky canopy]

Just go in as war and establish dominance

[jagged pier]

U do take it because u need it for vigor

[strong forum]

good

[lusty tiger]

Well… I’m going dk for 10.2*

[sick sentinel]

dk has 2 taunts im fairly certain but might be wrong

[strong forum]

and warri has 3

[lusty tiger]

Why the heck not play the only tank that can wield a legendary

[sick sentinel]

command and grab

[jagged pier]

Fcuk tongue and cheek i would have been screaming about him loose aggro every boss

[blazing condor]

when you ask for safecraft can you just put Rank 5 into the personal order cus its 100%?

[chilly brook]

He was healing on an alt but I was ripping off the other tank lol

[jagged pier]

Yer so u make it more obivous Heal me i have aggro again

[dusky canopy]

Don’t get me wrong M+ has its place but like pushing high high keys? Big meh. Maybe if I tried it with a team but pugging 24s/25s is turbo dog

[lusty grotto]

you can but the crafter might not be maxed

[sick sentinel]

my problem with mythic + is that in every run above a 17 there is some mob or boss that has a 1 shot ability and there is like 5 pulls or mobs/ 2 bosses that have that shit and if it goes off its a nuke it wipes the party and everyone leaves

[strong forum]

[blazing condor]

isnt that kinda the point though with asking for it

[lusty tiger]

The content is always better with a premade because of accountability

[waxen vale]

Yea i agree mplus pugging over low 20s is pointles

[jagged pier]

Good come to the darkside my youn apprentice

[sick sentinel]

and the affixes seem to change it a bit

[jagged pier]

I wont stop until they are conoletely seperate

[lusty grotto]

they can guarantee tier 5 with a thingie

[dusky canopy]

https://tenor.com/view/high-five-secret-handshake-gif-24763988

[sick sentinel]

so you gotta know which fight is going to wipe you and deal with it, could be worse

[lusty grotto]

that doesnt mean they can craft a baseline 5 tier though

[blazing condor]

yeah makes sense. just thinking how you also "could" get scammed that way if you cant put r5 into order

[jagged pier]

https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-bart-simpson-join-us-sit-here-gif-15631014

[waxen vale]

But just to conclude an older discussion I'm not sure a few tests of andy gigapulling and doing the most dps with paladin is conclusive of anything

[lusty tiger]

Test results mean nothing right

[jagged pier]

Nither is dorki saying x

[lusty grotto]

do tier 4 at min honestly

[strong forum]

nah its ofc just a meme test, first pull atal

[chilly brook]

Yeah so how is that different to raid?

[jagged pier]

Its literally 1 point of data each way

[chilly brook]

Or any other content?

[dusky canopy]

Nothing quite like wiping to p3 sark for 9 raid nights

[strong forum]

like, word of mouth aint shit

[dusky canopy]

[strong forum]

no matter who it comes from

especially currently

[waxen vale]

You should have had blizz buff raid dps

That would fix ur problems

[jagged pier]

Your TM arent u?

[sick sentinel]

cuz your on a timer and if you commited lust, then, thats where the anomolies start to happen

[blazing condor]

aye

[jagged pier]

What u trying to make and do u have the mats?

[sick sentinel]

you die to a boss 14% hp and you used lust, you burned 5 minutes of time

[strong forum]

cuz a) dungeon tuning is a joke rn
b) youre scaled to 440
c) classes arent tuned
d) aug exists
e) bugs

[blazing condor]

either rings or neck

and yes

looking to do torc rn

[sick sentinel]

EXODIA

is another reason

[strong forum]

exodia will unlikely be a thing next patch

[dusky canopy]

Fingers crossed aug is absolutely gutted

Sorry not sorry

[strong forum]

cuz bear isnt turbo anymore, rogue is mega turbo

thats 2 classes already different

[sick sentinel]

i mean, why cant aug just go to team with other tank

[daring marlin]

ain't no way

[sick sentinel]

does it not buff melee good

[strong forum]

aug is locked in.

as long as aug buffs healers and tanks

its locked in

[daring marlin]

💯

[jagged pier]

Send to virbi TM should be able to do a craft for free for yah

[blazing condor]

[strong forum]

make aug give %dmg

[blazing condor]

that would be dank

[strong forum]

and not mainstat

and its already very different

[blazing condor]

anything in note or just send?

and min r4 i assume

[jagged pier]

Nah just send

Yee

[waxen vale]

I wonder what overall spell reflect would be in waycrest now

[strong forum]

the fact that aug makes the tank 15% tankier and gives the healer bigger throughput + offering group survivability is why its locked in

[blazing condor]

sent

[waxen vale]

Iirc my highest in nlair was 25 or 35?

[strong forum]

it wont be as big as in NL

[sick sentinel]

witches boss, basement wtich, girl on bed, maybe lightning

[strong forum]

nothing will

[blazing condor]

tyvm friend

[jagged pier]

Np

[strong forum]

yes its big value in WCM

but not NL big

[sick sentinel]

the basement witch reflect is kind of big

[waxen vale]

Still worth considering tho in saying warrs dam is dog

Also how we are a slow and steady dps doer

[sick sentinel]

its 20% dmg from the party

not only u

[jagged pier]

Also perks of having a guild this expansion XD

[strong forum]

our dmg isnt dog dog, its very good prio dmg

[waxen vale]

As opposed to prot pal where you get it sll at once

[strong forum]

and in WCM pwar will probably be the play

simply because its so good on 2 bosses

[waxen vale]

And if you time the tests right prot pal gon a blast

Warrs dam just always solid

[strong forum]

well we have our burst every minute now

instead of every 1.5min

[sick sentinel]

im pretty sure theres tons of whatever bolts you can non priority reflect in wcm

[strong forum]

pwar is very consistent

and has SUPER good prio dmg

[jagged pier]

If u wanna do ring furher down the line just send with mats

[daring marlin]

lord waycrest reflect

[sick sentinel]

can you refelcet his slap

[blazing condor]

👍

[jagged pier]

We spell block gaming next patch

Like full raid

Spell block gaming

[strong forum]

i wouldnt say that yet

[blazing condor]

can they do the primary stat gem as well btw?

[sick sentinel]

p sure lord waycrest has some slap you can reflected

[strong forum]

youre exceedingly likely to play it

but i dont think its always "the most useful"

[daring marlin]

It's his rot dot

giga dot

[strong forum]

cuz just because you can block it, doesnt mean you need to

[jagged pier]

Someone in the guild will but will have to get back to u about that one

[sick sentinel]

ya thats that one, that fight could be really shit on a tyranical tree roots week

[jagged pier]

But imma gunna so remind me another time

[sick sentinel]

cuz the viruse circles

[blazing condor]

ofc sleep well

[daring marlin]

I hope when they bring back ML they make throw wrench unblockable again

I know they won't it would be funny regardless

[strong forum]

nah

unless they actively rework what kind of projectile throw wrench is

cuz its classified as physical ranged attack

[waxen vale]

Does the new raid look fun tho

[strong forum]

smolderon looks hard

[chilly brook]

There is no world in which a support class exists that’s actually good and it’s not locked in

[strong forum]

some of the best guilds are for 30min on it

but wiping at 70%

the council boss will be a 1pull boss for good guilds

unless they buff it

[chilly brook]

Pandora’s box is already opened

[lusty grotto]

❤️ augs

augs 4lyf

[chilly brook]

The problem with aug is it’s either tuned to be valuable for basically every group at every level of play which would make it omega locked in

Or it’s tuned to only be valuable at the highest end of play in which case it’s a dead class for most people but it’s still locked in

[strong forum]

like i said

as long as it makes tanks tankier and healers healier

its locked

[chilly brook]

Why wouldn’t it?

It would need to be completely reworked if it didn’t

[strong forum]

no

[chilly brook]

Yes it would

[strong forum]

just make ebon might %dmg buff

instead of mainstat

voila

fixed

[lusty grotto]

ok calm down satan

[strong forum]

thats literally it tho

[chilly brook]

It would need to either be one or two target buff class if you do that

I also don’t see why it’s even seen as a problem to take an Aug in an optimal group

You have a tank and a healer in an optimal group of course if the game adds a support spec or class it would be optimal to have that as well

[keen iris]

I agree. Like the holy pallie ability. And easier to fix the meters too

[lusty grotto]

you know nome

thats exactly how dnc and brd work in ffxiv

lol

with % increases

[mighty valley]

matchmaking and groupfinding is painful enough with three required roles

[chilly brook]

People just don’t like aug because it:

1. ducks with their meters
2. because it skyrocketed two problematic classes to the top

[lusty grotto]

i mean harrow

[chilly brook]

You don’t have to take one

[lusty grotto]

if your dps slot is threatened

[chilly brook]

I’ve done most of my 20s without an Aug

[lusty grotto]

MAYBE YOU SHOULD PLAY NON DPS

so

its not really a problem

its actually better

do you know how many people rerolled out of healer in DF?

[keen iris]

I really hate it fucking up the meters. It's so annoying that you can't see if you're winning the meter race until later that night when someone posts logs

[chilly brook]

Healers are an actual problem tbh

Like the healer situation is 1000x worse than whatever bullshit people cry about with Aug

[lusty grotto]

wdym just live log

[chilly brook]

What difference does it make though? Did the boss die? Did you do well in your chosen class in logs?

[strong forum]

"+13 aug"

[chilly brook]

Like sure there’s a dopamine hit from seeing your name in details but also, I care a lot more about getting purple/orange/pink parses than I do showing up on details

[lusty grotto]

i still dont think augs the problem

healers are the bigger factor

[grim pilot]

+16 aug bear fire mage

[lusty grotto]

you need an aug cause it makes it easier for the healer

you need x class because its easier for the healer

[grim pilot]

also for the tank

[lusty grotto]

meanwhile youre 4 hours into posting your key cause there's no healers going up

[grim pilot]

the difference is insane or it's just placebo for me

[chilly brook]

Tell me about it, waiting 30 minutes for a healer to finally apply to my key kills any motivation to play outside of raid

[lusty grotto]

because in their boundless wisdom, blizzard decided healing check curves should start at key level 9 and go up exponentially

and then because healers are so powerful in raids

they decide to quadruple nerf them