ye its minimal
#protection
strong forum
jagged pier
i wouldnt want to give my ui to any one yet the other day my RL said it was very clear and easy to see things
👍
daring marlin
I was like this til I got the nameplate ones that Darkmech uses
Small and looks neat tbh
blazing condor
i wouldnt want to give my ui to any one yet the other day my RL said it was very...
why gatekeep
jaunty canopy
So I was curious on for huge pulls for Fueled by Violence vs Brutal Vitality.
I was doing the pole pull in FH by 2nd boss and noticed that IP healed me for 5m total on that pull, with Brutal Vitality. But on the same pull my Deep Wounds dmged for 4.6m in it self. Do you think it would be a good idea to take Fueld by Violence for mass aoe dungeons in high keys? where your IP just insta gets eaten and you cant really add to it?
south zealot
they are interchangeable
strong forum
the difference between the 2 is negligble
1 makes HP bar go slightly faster up
1 make HP bar go slightly slower down
south zealot
i personally think brv is a bit better because mitigating damage is slightly better than healing damage after the fact
but it wont make or break a key
grand veldt
AM I DOING IT RIGHT?
strong forum
looks decent
cosmic wyvern
this actually makes me sad
jaunty canopy
the difference between the 2 is negligble
I was just looking at how I had 50% IP uptime roughly, I trasnlated that into 5% of my dmg being leeched into shield, and on that pull it would be around 1,750,000. So I would loose that much but gain 5,060,000, or a net gain of 3,310,000, roughly 24% more sustain. Seems like its pretty significant in a few situations.
strong forum
youre not always gonna get 100% of the dmg deep wounds does as healing
when youre full HP it doesnt trigger the heal
and 50% IP uptime is really low
its not an amazing comparison as its 1 keylevel difference and different healers
mh yeah okay they also play different talent builds
so plka just has infinitely less IP casts
cosmic wyvern
so about the stances, if I'm doing a high-ish key, should I always be in defensive or still use defensive only for emergencies
strong forum
in proper high keys, youre better off primarily sitting in d-stance on trash and on bosses switch to b-stance
but ideally you stance dance
jaunty canopy
Yeah I thought of that after i posted, I wouldnt get full value when im full hp but I feel like I would get a lot on a pull that size, about 20 or so mobs in freehold by the pole
As far as the IP uptime, I was spamming it, I was just taking a lot of dmg. Looks like I wasted some blood surge rage when I got stunned ( cuz im bad lol) like 2 IP casts worth but I dont think 2 IP casts would make a huge change on the uptime for IP for that pull. I think it was just getting removed pretty fast from the dmg intake?
strong forum
like i said theyre interchangable
they both scale the same way with pull size
its just that BrV is way better on low target counts
also FbV can steal healing from Indomitable and Leech
essentially causing you to "overheal" and waste potential healing
youll gain an extra bar from FbV but in turn your Indomitable and Leech bar will be smaller in return
effectively potentially gaining you nothing in the end
as you can see in the first pull of this NL in the logs above
but 1 log isnt enough evidence for statistical analysis
its alot of IFs and BUTs between the 2 talents
jagged pier
why gatekeep
I swear youve watched my stream
blazing condor
When stream
jaunty canopy
@strong forum fair enough! Yeah there is a lot to think about. Thanks for dealing with me :p
arctic marten
When I have Violent Outbust available, but Thunder Clap is on cooldown, and Shield Slam is available, is there a target count at which I wait for Thunder Clap, or do I always just cast Shield Slam?
warm plinth
I wouldn't wait for TC though tbh. Because that means you're holding Shield Slam.
lusty grotto
yea
inland raft
Pretty much just always prio ss for outburst, while there are cases tc would pull ahead its rare enough to just not think about it
sick sentinel
overgrown ancient vs soul bound golaith as a worse tree boss?
modern gazelle
Does final boss take extra damage on neltharus when stunned? I don’t see a debuff but thought he did
warm plinth
Does final boss take extra damage on neltharus when stunned? I don’t see a debuf...
Yes
modern gazelle
Know how much extra?
sick sentinel
ya she does take more dmg
modern gazelle
Do we have a % extra damage taken?
warm plinth
Do we have a % extra damage taken?
100% extra damage
warm plinth
No that's the stacking debuff applied to players during the shield
sick sentinel
TLDR everything casts flame eruption and that puts flame vulnerabilty on them
warm plinth
Does final boss take extra damage on neltharus when stunned? I don’t see a debuf...
This is the debuff
warm plinth
Oh I didn't even see the first pic; I just saw the flame vulnerability
modern gazelle
cool thanks
lusty grotto
of course, of course
hazy bronze
God ilu yogi
mighty valley
rugged pewter
Hey can you already estimate how good the warrior tank will be in patch 10.2
urban portal
No
sudden sable
Hey can you already estimate how good the warrior tank will be in patch 10.2
Outside of atal dazar I can't recall any bleeds from the dungeons,but I'm also waiting for the IP fix to continue testing. If AD is the only big dot dungeons it will be a good season for us.
limpid orbit
So prot tier was overturned?
chilly brook
Outside of atal dazar I can't recall any bleeds from the dungeons,but I'm also w...
WCM has some good dots,
sick sentinel
wcm has butcher block
chilly brook
last boss of BRH has an indefinite bleed
warm plinth
Hey you know I just had a thought
daring marlin
warm plinth
I wonder if we can spell reflect every lord waycrest now w/ it only being 20 sec now
It was pretty close already iirc
sudden sable
WCM has some good dots,
Really? I tanked a 21 fort/tyr on Sunday with the bugged IP and didn't notice much. From which mob?
warm plinth
A lot of the shitty things in Waycrest are able to be backpedaled
the captain/guard abilities can both be backpedaled
sudden sable
Oh yeah. I was doing that as I was moving thru the hall.
I'm kinda concerned about the etch cast not being kickable anymode
I expect Blizz is implementing that in an attempt to limit pull sizes in the mdi setting
warm plinth
I'm kinda concerned about the etch cast not being kickable anymode
It's not? That's a fucking yikes.
That shit huuuurts
sudden sable
Yuh
sick sentinel
wait that could be season one
warm plinth
I guess you don't fight a ton of witches anayway though
Basically just waycrest room
patent osprey
If something like etch is overtuned theyll balance it ^.^ eventually….
sudden sable
They appear in some halls too I think. Maybe my pathing was poor though. Was just free balling it straight to witches and going shortest path
warm plinth
Yeah they're fairly uncommon in the rest of the dungeon if you're taking the optimal route
Just the random spawning ones for the most part
"random"
lusty grotto
rat evokechip not getting invited to heroic sark
even though she is 7/8
heroic
feelsbadman
wanted to farm bad luck protection
warm plinth
rat evokechip not getting invited to heroic sark
My 403 augvoker wouldn't get accepted to 16s earlier 😢
lusty grotto
auging in low keys feels fucking terrible cause everything dies way too fast
breath of eons doesnt do shit except on bosses
warm plinth
Yeah, can't keep ebon up because there's nothing to hit 
lusty grotto
lol yea
warm plinth
Feels good on the rare occasion you make it to the end of the CD though
lusty grotto
yeah my haste also blows
inland raft
Dwarf or vulpera? Thicc vs furry
inland raft
Ez report though selling keys for gold in trade chat is allowed
inland raft
Using the dungeon tool is not
warm plinth
125k is like
lusty grotto
wait, its not going well
warm plinth
dirt cheap
lusty grotto
cause they just reposted lol
pallid quiver
That's my entire wallet, Ghash ;-;
inland raft
Idk what a decent price is this season
lusty grotto
its funny cause these arent lvl 1 posters
its literally a 2700 io player posting that
LMAO
how stupid can you fucking be
his 4 man group is in it too
pallid quiver
hold on let me log on and help report, too
lusty grotto
nah i reported so i cant see them anymore
inland raft
I mean its 15-17 range
warm plinth
tbf they are probably just gonna get silenced
lusty grotto
well they gon learn today
inland raft
2700 ip players should easily carry it, the issue is why they think its smart to try abusing the tool
lusty grotto
their io isnt the issue
is the fact that i can see that its their players in it
just make a lvl 1 saying that
dont be an idiot
(youre still gonna get reported by me)
sick sentinel
So I'm 441.25 ilvl. 30 Crit, 36 Haste (42 with Fray), 12 Mastery, and 19 Vers. I'm assuming I dump Haste, then Vers? Dumping Mastery is no longer much of an option due to which slots have 447 ilvl pieces, so it's those two and Crit.
inland raft
My guess is a group who just decided out of the blue to sell and dont know the rules, theyll learn fast
lusty grotto
So I'm 441.25 ilvl. 30 Crit, 36 Haste (42 with Fray), 12 Mastery, and 19 Vers. I...
wat
inland raft
Id get on to report too but already shut down pc
lusty grotto
read my nickname
lusty grotto
sure
inland raft
If you want
lusty grotto
well hes trying to replace a piece so
pallid quiver
I'd just sim your gear to see what gives you the most DPS
lusty grotto
yeah i agree with luerce
sick sentinel
Makes sense, thanks y'all
cosmic wyvern
I've been trying to follow you guys' advice and work on my rage generation/defensive management and I installed a weakaura that shows all the important stuff but I feel like I'm now paying too much attention to my rage and shit
like it's kinda hard to pay attention to that and also the enemies/hazards/attacks/etc
lusty grotto
dont install any weakaura
get one that is easy to use your peripherals on
err peripheral vision
cosmic wyvern
yeah thats what I did, I just have to keep fine tuning its positioning on my screen lol
lusty grotto
yeah
just sit on a dummy or do keys until you get used to not looking at it
and you train your brain to just rely on its peripheral vision
rage bar should be ideally below your character
ionic fern
like it's kinda hard to pay attention to that and also the enemies/hazards/attac...
This screams "I'm new to the class/content".
cerulean tusk
yeah thats what I did, I just have to keep fine tuning its positioning on my scr...
Make a UI that only shows buttons you can press. Then learn to whack a mole rampage
Gl
ionic fern
Which isn't bad - it will get better once you get more used to it.
cosmic wyvern
I'm not even new, I've been playing prot for a good while 😦
but I just learned that apparently I need to work on my rage management
cerulean tusk
Called out by a Valkyrie 
ionic fern
What's the harm in paying attention to it then? 👀
If that's your goal..that's how you learn.
Maybe you will pay more attention to it for a while.
lusty grotto
well loss of situational awareness
ionic fern
But it'll become second nature.
lusty grotto
im guessing they are scared of losing it
cosmic wyvern
this is what I'm working with rn
lusty grotto
holy shit is that khakan's
cerulean tusk
Oh my, that is messy
cosmic wyvern
idk it might be
lusty grotto
until i swapped to nome when i resubbed in SL S4
cosmic wyvern
I never used to use a weakaura, this is the first time
I've kinda been playing by glancing down at my bars and using muscle memory
unfortunately I guess I learned the wrong muscle memory so I have to unlearn it idk
lusty grotto
first time for everything
cerulean tusk
Ya will improve with time for sure
lusty grotto
dont worry, it doesnt take long to retrain muscle memory
cerulean tusk
lusty grotto
or at least not as long as people think it does (myself included)
cosmic wyvern
I think the biggest thing is that I kinda trained myself to instinctively press ignore pain between like every other gcd
cerulean tusk
Replace that with rampage, and you can't go wrong 
lusty grotto
easy as in, you need to play the game otherwise it wont happen lol
cosmic wyvern
like after every second shield slam I kinda instinctively go to shift+3 without realizing it
ionic fern
Replace that with rampage, and you can't go wrong <:wicked:937093876857045012>
I replaced my Shield Slam voice notification with Rampage.
cerulean tusk
I need to drink my coffee yep yep
ionic fern
Big smart.
cerulean tusk
Actual smart
cosmic wyvern
so I just end up rage starved in too many situations
lusty grotto
How did I get in here
cosmic wyvern
what was that wa you said you use? this one is nice but its a bit cluttered
and worst of all, asymmetrical
lusty grotto
Nome's, one of the mods here
uhh
there are a lot more though
like afenar's and luxthos, i imagine quazii also has one
similar to nome's actually
ionic fern
Sense's.
lusty grotto
err thats a link for the entire ui
i was referring to the weakaura
oh sense has one?
how did i not know about this
shameful display
evokechip coming through
sick sentinel
Meta slave
ionic fern
oh sense has one?
lusty grotto
https://wago.io/M0lngjVea
cosmic wyvern
I tried all of those just now. Sense's doesn't convey enough information, nomes' seems to convey too much
sick sentinel
Hijacks good imo
candid niche
You can Frankenstein something together. Like take the bits you like and bin the rest
sick sentinel
Khakans is what I use now, best to make own tho
cosmic wyvern
hijack has some warnings on wago that dont look too good
sick sentinel
Hijacks is fine
sick sentinel
The lua errors shown as warnings are just cause the code has "Hijack" in it
lusty grotto
but yeah go with what khendron said if you dont feel like any of them are good
like start with a decent rage bar
and a shield block tracker
instead of a complete suite
lusty grotto
well thre you go
just a heads up though, sometimes khakhan's doesnt update his
thats why i moved away from it after i quit in SL
candid niche
Does luxthos still do his WA's ?
candid niche
They were alright last time I checked
candid niche
Atleast as a starting point, when you get more comfortable with the spec you'll prolly find there's a lot of stuff you don't need
lusty grotto
candid niche
Or maybe im just lazy with my play 😛
pallid quiver
like it's kinda hard to pay attention to that and also the enemies/hazards/attac...
I'm a bit late, but like Mwahi said, you'll want to focus on your rage at first. When learning something, or improving an aspect of your play, it's expected that other parts of your gameplay will suffer. Overall, your immediate performance should even feel and actually be worse off since you're focusing on that one aspect. As you improve, you reintegrate it back into the rest of your skill set, and ease back in, making you play a skill level higher than you did before. It's like a zig-zag on the skill chart.
lusty grotto
sick sentinel
Khakhans fury + prot nice I like much
tender cove
Any1 know what this means when trying to move realms?
Nothing really happens?
lusty grotto
think its pretty self explanatory
tender cove
Well, i just did faction change before. So not sure if thats preventing it or if its actually moving but not just giving an icon for it?
warm plinth
It can take a while before the transfer is complete.
tender cove
It can take a while before the transfer is complete.
yeh, for some reason it took couple minutes for the cogwork icon to appear next to the char. Seems its working now
Feel robbed paying 110 euro for this but whatever xD
sick sentinel
U must simply wait
tender cove
Anyone know if you can move EU account to NA? I moved from europe.
ionic fern
Anyone know if you can move EU account to NA? I moved from europe.
Not that i know of.
tender cove
Not that i know of.
So basically just suffer the ping or have a complete reset of everything including achivements etc?
tender cove
idk about a region change
Doesnt it require a whole new battle.net account? I thought you couldnt just add a new starter wow account but on NA region?
I thought region was decided by battle.net client?
ionic fern
You don't need a whole new battle.net account afaik.
You just can't transfer your EU characters etc.
tender cove
Example, diablo 4 I can just switch whatever region I want by selecting it in battle.net client login page but nothing like that for wow?
ionic fern
You can swap your region in the bnet launcher for WoW, but it will come with new servers and gotta create a new character etc.
tender cove
You can swap your region in the bnet launcher for WoW, but it will come with new...
But it would still be under the same b.net account, so technically achieves etc would follow?
I still have some vague feeling it doesn't.
tender cove
yeh, cba with that.
tender cove
<:okayge:917646812519739433>
not sure why i asked here first and didnt just google. Guess i thought you guys knew best 😛
Any fun changes to prot while I was gone?
tender cove
moving abroad?
After my mom passed away, I had a rough period and long story short. I decided to leave europe and start over. So moved to mexico.
lusty grotto
oh
tender cove
So been living here for the past 6 months now.
lusty grotto
im sorry for your loss
tender cove
im sorry for your loss
I honestly subbed wow when the great push was streaming. Always get so excited and boy what a show it was this season.
But wasn't until tonight that I actually started fixing ui, moving chars etc 😄
How do i even toggle latency in wow? Is there such a thing or i've always had some addon for it?
lusty grotto
an addon probably
im not sure how it looks on default ui now, but it used to be a bar thingie
elvui shows it as is
on the data bars
tender cove
on the data bars
hmm. my data bar is gone for some reason :S
lusty grotto
do you use elvui?
tender cove
yes
lusty grotto
warm plinth
hmm. my data bar is gone for some reason :S
Hover over the question mark in the micro bar
tender cove
but for some reason, have none of the bottom menu icons
lusty grotto
System is the one you want
make sure its enabled
uhh i have no bottom menu icons with elvui
warm plinth
Bottom menu icons?
lusty grotto
i think those can get enabled somehow but they are off by default
warm plinth
Shit I have almost that normally
tender cove
ye eu ping isnt that bad
I was expecting to see minimum 200 and up to 4-500
so 110 is fine, i can live with that
lusty grotto
well it might shoot up a bit
cinder nova
At the risk of jordan's head getting any bigger
tender cove
My biggest issue right now is not having my 34 ultrawide monitor but a 16inch laptop monitor. My UI looks dogshit 😦
lusty grotto
oh thats a big F
tender cove
Yeh, when i left europe. The plan was to travel south america and find out what feels like home so left computer, monitors etc at storage at home.
But just kinda got stuck here haha
How does the tanks look nowadays? Im getting that bear is top choice but where's warrior?
ionic fern
As always.
Good.
tender cove
As always.
Good.
Any changes to talent(s) etc that I should be aware off? Or anything of value to know thats happened the last 6 months?
ionic nimbus
How does the tanks look nowadays? Im getting that bear is top choice but where's...
PTR bear definitly not meta anymore
pallid quiver
Any changes to talent(s) etc that I should be aware off? Or anything of value to...
Still same S2 stuff, so same talents (Bolster for SB uptime choice, etc)
willow moss
I have the hardest time with spell reflect thing. Not very good at it
jagged pier
eyes > cast bar > press before cast bar ends
also just pressing it on cd your using it better than 90% of ppl
tender cove
Just noticed def stance only reduces 5% dmg done now? Still always bstance or has it shifted?
or same as before?
grim pilot
Changed in 10.1.7.
ionic fern
You will not go to dstance until they change it to "Reduces 0%".
Unless for some very specific mechanics at very specific times.
grim pilot
I swap to dstance when heal ded
tender cove
is whetstone 411 still holding up as a good trinket? What are the best choice for s2 in terms off trinkets?
When does this season end btw?
tender cove
aight 🙂
willow crow
Hey folks, how do you manage CDs in raid?
I was thinking about using a similar approach to viserios healing cd sheet but for tank stuff and put my cd rotation there + externals I need to ask for. And use the mrt WA for it.
Anyone else does that or have a better suggestion? My guild wants to climb ranks and I’m new to tanking so want to make sure my prep is good and we’re not wiping because of a paper tank 🤣
jagged pier
i mean its easy tank buster use a cd
pallid quiver
^^^
If damage gonna come in, press CD
If damage not come in, play as usual
jagged pier
if u die
check hp
not max hp ask to be healed before it
if u were
ask for external
u can assign them, but using externals if sort of a fluid thing
imo
if your mwahis guild
just dont heal tanks
and blame them
👍
ionic fern
Tank busters are usually also scattered enough that you can IV before they happen.
ionic fern
just dont heal tanks
pallid quiver
Mwahi's guild? Try about half the people sent here by their guild leaders
Never forget that one guy who just literally was never healed
and when pointed out
ionic fern
My GM also sent me here to l2p.
pallid quiver
his guild lead came in here to shout at everyone
jagged pier
yer that was fun
urban portal
Link lore please
jagged pier
it was ages ago
pallid quiver
Most recent time I can think of was early S1
vital oak
I wish I had seen it, that sounds great.
pallid quiver
The one I'm thinking of ended up leaving their guild, iirc
ionic nimbus
is whetstone 411 still holding up as a good trinket? What are the best choice fo...
The 6 weeks of TW start with weekly reset, so at least 6 weeks + 1-2 weeks offseason are safe
arctic marten
My Avatar cooldown is about 35-40s, while my Demoralizing Shout is 45s. Should I be syncing these together when talented into Booming Voice? Or just use both on cooldown?
pallid quiver
Pretty much just always send all CDs on CD
Avatar lasts a bit while it's up, and holding it can cost you more uses over time
violet ginkgo
Should I just send demoralize even if not my turn tanking the boss?
jagged pier
yes
warm plinth
Should you tell @jagged pier how cute he is as much as possible? Also yes
jagged pier
its the same principle because of BV u get rage from it so u need to use it to get the rage 👍
jagged pier
well your a warlock they are less likely to die than a tank
with circle hs resolve and the other stuff
pallid quiver
i feel that until i've had unstable essence for like a minute
smh should've dispelled myself
jagged pier
pallid quiver
I'm bad at this game
ionic fern
Our RL is a Evoker.
And i love it.
He's just gripping people to where they need to be.
Especially useful on Sark.
pallid quiver
Evokers and Priests are very powerful for that purpose
violet ginkgo
u shouldnt need healing your a tank
pallid quiver
Like on Magmorax in pougs when people just try their damndest to ignore puddle strats
warm plinth
@ionic fern hi ily
waxen frigate
i feel that until i've had unstable essence for like a minute
Just dwarf it
(Idk if you can do that)
sick sentinel
i still think human "will to survive" remove stun is in contention with being as good as dwarf "stone-form" remove everything but curse or no debuff type
if you get stunned inside of a fire, probably playing wrong anyways, but then you don't have to suffer through 7seconds of have to sit there and watch and prayge not to die
example of it even being dps increase, in tol dagor vs howliss, when the phase changes, you can hit will to survive and start attacking him early
ionic fern
i still think human "will to survive" remove stun is in contention with being as...
That's a horrible take.
sick sentinel
i still think its easily as handy, but like, that's just my opinion or whatever man
stun for 8 seconds as dps >> targeted with wcm tree boss lightning/fire
have to eat 8 second stun
die
KEY DEPLETES
ionic fern
There's a very significant flaw in your logic.
Encounters/mechanics are not designed to stun the tank, while bleeds/dots are designed on tanks.
Majority of stuns are EASILY avoidable - if you get hit by them you are simply just playing very-very-very poorly.
sick sentinel
i think i'd mostly want it as dps, but i can see your point
strong forum
not to mention that less than a handful of stuns exist in pve
sick sentinel
when i was also human warrior, many moons ago
lavish sphinx
Let him cook guys
sick sentinel
i was arms, not cuz mr bald, that didnt exist just yet, this was cata
he only start streaming in wod or somethin
i made him human warrior cuz, weapon skills, and maybe reputation, and to be stupid (cuz warriors don't wear any intellect)
i dunno................ i just sorta feel like with stone form as tank................. shoulda brought a better healer / more awake dps that can disple cough to be completely honest
waxen frigate
i dunno................ i just sorta feel like with stone form as tank...........
What Dps do you think can dispel magic or bleeds (besides Evoker)
pallid quiver
warlock can dispell magic
sick sentinel
mage for sure i know can remove magic
pallid quiver
Mages decurse
waxen frigate
mage for sure i know can remove magic
They can’t
sick sentinel
i dont see issue of it being "required"
they used to be able to
mages dispel magic
cuz they are one of few that can remove curse
waxen frigate
Curses and magic are very different
sick sentinel
i think its also druid can remove curse
sick sentinel
right, well i was pretty sure that mages can just dispell magic
waxen frigate
But—only warlocks can dispel magic as Dps
pallid quiver
Curses and magic are very different
Out of context, this is hilarious
waxen frigate
And that’s only with a specific pet that is a big Dps loss
pallid quiver
you can sac it and imp isn't that major of a dps loss last I had checked
especially if there's a lot of target swapping that the downtime would cause inc/suc to lose uptime on
waxen frigate
Idk every warlock acted like it was the end of the world when they had to spec magic dispel in the pandaria dungeon last tier
sick sentinel
oh, i dunno, i feel like dwarf is cheesy racial for tank
waxen frigate
Dwarf is bis for M+ plain and simple
Unless there are night elf skips
Which hasn’t been very relevant since s3 shadowlands
And even then you need a full nelf group or people who can invis
sick sentinel
i mean invis pots are what
maytbe 20 g each
maybe 50
and then even then you use it 1 time per dungeon unless something went horribly wrong with skip
pallid quiver
I'd wager those warlocks were complaining because they had minimal idea as to what actually goes into their DPS like most players, but the difference could have widened I guess since I last checked
and if they're using sac then there's just no excuse
Though only Aff uses Sac atm last I checked
and even then, you don't always need to sac
waxen frigate
i mean invis pots are what
If you’re Dps potting you can’t invis pot
Also coordinating invis in pugs sucks
Plus if someone dies and can’t be rezzed for whatever reason then you have to kill the mob anyway
Some mobs also have true sight
pallid quiver
consume magic's the Felhunter purge iirc; imp's dispel is singe magic
sick sentinel
maybe its mage can do offensive magic dispell on enemy
or could at some point
cuz, i know they have/had amp/damp magic
dusky canopy
GM
waxen frigate
mage, shaman, priest
Those are offensive purges
Specifically we’re talking about defensive magic cleanse
Which is priest mass dispel and warlock imp
lusty tiger
maybe its mage can do offensive magic dispell on enemy
@waxen frigate
waxen frigate
The conversation was originally about defensive dispels
Yogi was just confused
Bc he thought mages could do that
sick sentinel
i really am the pepega gamer
shy ledge
Are engineering bracers worth making just to have all haste as the only stat?
sick sentinel
probably, its what i did,
dusky canopy
Are engineering bracers worth making just to have all haste as the only stat?
I run them with haste and brez
Don’t use the Brez very often but it has saved a few keys where the only brez class is who dies
karmic plinth
generally theyre worth it but sim yourself if you want to check
proper roost
no matter how many times you tell him, yogi will never internalize that mages have never had the ability to remove magic debuffs
sick sentinel
no matter how many times you tell him, yogi will never internalize that mages ha...
a master of the magic should know how to remove it no?
i say bs, whatever
lusty grotto
Are engineering bracers worth making just to have all haste as the only stat?
really no reason to ask, you should have a lot of sparks by now anyway
they dont count as an embelishment
proper roost
literally no matter how many times
think it's been explained like 4 or 5 times just since i was here
idle quartz
Are engineering bracers worth making just to have all haste as the only stat?
When I sim mine I always wind up with less DPS… which has never really made sense to me. With that and the goggles. I figure that similar stats = similar DPS but it always sims lower for me
Plus, I get myself killed tryna be the hero sometimes, lol
proper roost
having single stat is almost always worse because of stat DRs and stats scaling multiplicatively with each other
idle quartz
having single stat is almost always worse because of stat DRs and stats scaling ...
Better to balance all of your stats out across the board? I stacked hard on Haste recently and I’ve noticed my DPS is way up, even not simulated. Hope I didn’t make a huge mistake with that lol
Way past 30%
lusty grotto
strong forum
theres a hint already presented here
proper roost
winde
lusty grotto
idle quartz
Okay I’m glad to hear that. I actually went way higher specifically because of Nimchip’s name lololol. I wanted to make sure I didn’t make a horrible mistake.
lusty grotto
cerulean tusk
All fun and games, till I rock up with 100% versa
strong forum
nome playing cyberpunk??
ofc, its a great game
daring marlin
haste is the only stat
Zero damage enjoyorrrrr
lusty tiger
ofc, its a great game
u streamin bb?
strong forum
nah
lusty tiger
strong forum
in what way
jagged pier
I dunno its like same game but different
Didnt really get that far into it
Already worried if putting all my points into intel again is a good idea
I do like they push crafting a bit more tho
And less useless loot in my invetory
Maybe im just old man shouting at a cloud
Kek
sick sentinel
there is supposed to be a max payne 1/2 remster type thing come april 2024 i want to say it is
sick sentinel
project BDK is ago
lusty grotto
dorkis team almost got it a week ago
they died literally cause they pulled trash in the last 20% hp of harlan cause they missed some mules
jb in shambles cause he didnt heal that lol
since hes playing with drjay and lemiked often
and ricky of course
grim pilot
fh is exodia's heaven tbh, the pulls u do there you cannot do with melee
there is 1 pull that gives you literally 20% and everyone just stands in a safe spot
south zealot
fh is exodia's heaven tbh, the pulls u do there you cannot do with melee
well u could& its just like INSANELY harder than as a ranged
u have to be 100% focused on exactly where youre moving the entire pull which is rlly cringe
grim pilot
yeah also pulling 15 crushers and some other shit is cringe
that's why I don't like fh
it's so much better as a ranged
sick sentinel
crushers are very good at their job
lusty grotto
lusty tiger
sick sentinel
time to see how far i can rat into lfr on 402 dk
daring marlin
The whole way?
sick sentinel
its toolate
lusty tiger
Did 386 LFR the other night on my bdk and it went great
lusty tiger
Dream surges are great, esp for getting tier
lusty grotto
yeah im dreamsurging asap on mage/druid
lusty tiger
Why those two classes
lusty tiger
Ahh lol
lusty tiger
Yeah I don’t think my DH is going to make it to 70
lusty tiger
Yeah
lusty grotto
eh whatever i just want a leatherworker
thats basically why im leveling them
for tradeskills
and if theres an off chance that i like the playstyle i'll stick with them
lusty tiger
Truuu there have been times where I wish I actually had a maxed blacksmith
lusty grotto
if u got coin evokerchip will carry
blazing condor
invite me next time buddeh
do u even play or do you just raidlog
jagged pier
do u even play or do you just raidlog
if friends ask i log on, but i am busy till thursday now
blazing condor
lusty grotto
look at this wolverine motherfucker
blazing condor
bros him
jagged pier
look at this wolverine motherfucker
needs a beard
so race change to human
also wolverine is actually short
so dwarf better
cerulean tusk
Evok
modern brook
Rewi
night heron
Hello! I was wondering, how useful is getting spellblock for Mythic Zskarn? Does it help survive damage from the stacking tank DoT? It doesn't say so on the spreadsheet but I see some people are still using the talent for the boss
lusty grotto
they probably forgot to swap it out
or are too lazy to do so, i know i could fit into this one
gloomy vortex
First day on mythic Zskarn yesterday and my word it’s worse that Rashok
gloomy vortex
Any tricks to Zskarn as a warrior?
jagged pier
hope your healer doesnt die
gloomy vortex
I’m trying to rotate CD’s as much as poss and spam SR
I had 5 seconds where I had no heals and I asked why I was getting heals
They did not like that
With like 15 stacks
lusty grotto
why were you at 15 stacks
that screams your other tank isnt swapping when he should
gloomy vortex
What we aiming for 10 stacks?
lusty grotto
we dont really "aim" for stacks
theres no magical number
your stack drops, you taunt
lusty grotto
i think on average you shouldn't go past 11/12
if you are, then something is going wrong with swaps
plush tendon
for Zskern, BDK can go to any stack number they want
daring marlin
plush tendon
basically take whatever stack number hurts on a warrior and multiply it by 5 and that is probably when the DK should think about tank swap
plush tendon
In fact, a DK wants to stay on top of the boss as much as possible; having to run out and get bombs is a death sentence; dont really have great mitigation tools for it and cant easily get their health back since nothing to hit
as long as you can death strike, life is good
plush tendon
Wow DK OP
I mean, its really strong in Aberrus and, consequently, really strong where War is a bit sus
jagged pier
monk also OP
plush tendon
but if you are on Zskern as a War with BDK co-tank, lean on the DK to tank the boss for the majority of the time while you focus on getting bombs
after bombs, take the boss for a bit so the DK can reset stacks, and rinse and repeat
itll make the DKs life easier cause moving to get far off bombs is a pain for them (and quite dangerous) and it makes your life easier since you arent trying to go one for one on stack # with a DK
jagged pier
zksarn is easy for movement now tho
the knock back is timed with when u have to move
waxen frigate
for Zskern, BDK can go to any stack number they want
I had 18 stacks and 2 bombs ticking on me at one point as BDK
Pre-nerf at like 430ilvl
strong forum
just like the rwf tank
waxen frigate
I don’t even remember what they did on Zskarn in rwf
lusty tiger
Nish = rwf tank
lusty tiger
strong forum
I don’t even remember what they did on Zskarn in rwf
yipz didnt have BDK prepared, so he had to sub in with 15-20ilvl less
lusty tiger
Lives up to the name
waxen frigate
south zealot
yipz didnt have BDK prepared, so he had to sub in with 15-20ilvl less
same for us rigg was like 425 with 2 piece only
hardy snow
BDK too but without chill
tell your BDK to use chill then, its quite mandatory on such bosses, especially they dont lose much
waxen frigate
Chill on bdk is very good to take lmao
Better than the little 2 point self heal
That has a 3min cd
hardy snow
or small bonus to str
strong forum
this game is just so fucking sick
blazing condor
my pc could never
blazing condor
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/clip/UgyCk53z925Mb5LI6Nx4AaABCQ take this game play elements (excuse the ancient boomer shooter graphics and sounds) , give it the starfield/cyber punk game, add in the skins and story about starcraft ghosts
jagged pier
rtx on ultra aswell
same
strong forum
sick sentinel
it rtx, but it doesnt 60 fps, so, it aint worth it atm
blazing condor
fps > graphics
jagged pier
yes it does
jagged pier
yep
jagged pier
i havent turned mine up running .5 and i average 73
never drop below 60
so makes no difference
DLSS literal game changer
its so good
sick sentinel
monitor runs at 144hz but due to second monitor cant run it in 144 all the time, have to set it to 120
120 is just fine
jagged pier
brah just get 60hz for your second monitor
sick sentinel
i just, how to explain, i like it exactly to be at 30/60/120 fps as a constant
never changes fps numver
blazing condor
yeah only primary needs high fps
sick sentinel
some games jitter and have a high variance for fps
blazing condor
who cares about your spotify window on the other monitor not running 144
sick sentinel
i forget the exact issue but its tldr its best i run it in 120
blazing condor
eye can only see 30 fps anyway
sick sentinel
24
blazing condor
due to inflation its 30 now
strong forum
depends on where you live
sick sentinel
used to be 16
strong forum
in venezuela you can see with fucking 1200 fps
blazing condor
fps there stands for farm per second
warm plinth
this game is just so fucking sick
What game
strong forum
cyberpunk
sick sentinel
playin bf5 recently and the graphics on that are pretty good too when animation doesn't glitch out
bomb goes off its wild
sick sentinel
havent tried it
strong forum
kinda funny that they just downgraded their graphics after that
sick sentinel
bf5 at times is hyper realistic
red otter
this game is just so fucking sick
Actual in game screenie?
strong forum
ye
sick sentinel
thats cyber punk
strong forum
the game literally looks like that
toxic pewter
Cyberpunk anime was so good
strong forum
it rly was
strong forum
dont youll die again
toxic pewter
Hahah
strong forum
its on netflix
lusty tiger
Oo
toxic pewter
Didn’t realize they released a patch.. that’s actually really cool
strong forum
you can also get some of their clothes and with 2.0 also some of their skills
jagged pier
well it was like second big patch
strong forum
and davids apartment you can also get
toxic pewter
Wow that adds even more cool factor to it
strong forum
its fuckin sick
i really hope they make a cyberpunk 2
cuz phantom liberty is the only dlc theyre gonna release for cyberpunk2077
red otter
What does the new dlc add?
strong forum
new main questline
and cars weapons skill tree
should be ~30hrs of content or smth depending on how much you just rush
red otter
Gotcha gotcha
There have been afew times I've wanted to grab cyberpunk just to explore the city.
The combat I've seen in a videos has always been a turn off for me personally reminding me of ubisoft games.
jagged pier
its shame i feel like, 2.0 is what they intended the game to be
strong forum
100%
strong forum
2.0 feels alot more fleshed out and complete
strong forum
There have been afew times I've wanted to grab cyberpunk just to explore the cit...
they reworked combat and movement alot
strong forum
but im rn just playing on very easy cuz i cba dealing with combat as a whole, i wanna enjoy story and blast people
jagged pier
crafting and upgrading
strong forum
i dont wanna be all tryhard again and playing on very hard
jagged pier
tbh very hard is easier in 2.0 it feels
proper roost
the reworks are free to the base game, so you wouldn't have to buy the DLC either
strong forum
im just cruisin jumping in mfs face with 300mh dash and shotgun to the head
proper roost
i'm prob still not gonna buy it til it's like $20 or whatever tho just like W3 ended up being
strong forum
and mega speedrun combat
proper roost
maybe it'll end up on gamepass
modern brook
Smartbplay
strong forum
its very satisfying that you can now dash->jump legit
without needing to abuse bullettime(which was also patched)
you finally feal like an actual cyborg killing machine
strong forum
im going for chromed out shotgun killing machine
jagged pier
fairs
strong forum
full on cyberpsycho
jagged pier
i hate how its come out tho i still want to plya starfield
strong forum
well then do that
my problem is i cant watch any streams cuz i dont want any spoilers
modern brook
Gunrim
Starfield isn't worth buying until the vampire dlc comes out
Just chilling on Bethesda shills to keep them afloat until then
jagged pier
i said my feelings on starfield the other day
but i always play rpgs different to alot of ppl
jagged pier
my problem is i cant watch any streams cuz i dont want any spoilers
why youve done the story already?
strong forum
dont have to justify wanting to play or like a game
jagged pier
yer i know
strong forum
why youve done the story already?
no i mean DLC
jagged pier
i was also gunna say that we all enjoy different things
jagged pier
no i mean DLC
ah yer that makes sense
strong forum
cuz some people got early access and are already playing it
proper roost
I don't have an issue with the menus or anything about starfield
jagged pier
unfair
strong forum
(it releases in 1.25hrs anyway)
proper roost
It's just big 😴
and tbh i don't get the praise over the combat
enemies are weirdly bulletspongy
toxic pewter
is now a good time to get into cyberpunk 2077 if never played before
strong forum
yes
toxic pewter
always wanted to just never got into it
strong forum
theres never been a better time than now
toxic pewter
o rly
proper roost
so base game + dlc being $60 is probably the cheapest it'll be til like
next year summer maybe
toxic pewter
on steam or somewhere else
proper roost
Yes on steam
I didn't know PL is the only dlc they're gonna make for it
that's kinda weird
proper roost
Oh ok
toxic pewter
is the dlc worth getting right away its not on sale just 2077 itself.. i can get it later right
proper roost
yeah I just read they're switching to UE5 and a new witcher game so
That's good news
strong forum
yeah you can get DLC later
toxic pewter
ok
jagged pier
enemies are weirdly bulletspongy
thats literally bethesda, always has been hasnt changed since FO3, but the combat has been changed and improved on from FO4 that ppl didnt like
toxic pewter
i heard grand theft auto 6 will cost 130 dollars has anyone else heard this
proper roost
yeah but no one was saying any other previous bethesda combat felt good
jagged pier
i liked fo3 at the time
proper roost
i just think the gunplay isn't particularly impactful if every mob is super bulletspongy anyway
strong forum
i heard grand theft auto 6 will cost 130 dollars has anyone else heard this
rumours
strong forum
ofc
modern brook
I wonder if it'll have cars
toxic pewter
Goin back to Vice City I think
toxic pewter
XD
jagged pier
not interested for gta6 at all
proper roost
I mean it literally won't even be a thing for at least a year, likely two+
so it doesn't really matter
jagged pier
yer 2 billion dollars at least
but i didnt even finish the story of gt5 so that sort of shows how much i like gta games
as said above ppl enjoy different things
waxen vale
Gheeeeeeyyyyyyy
blazing condor
damn bro hit me with the 4 day later roast
waxen vale
Still on here more often than wow
chilly brook
i said my feelings on starfield the other day
Me likey Starfield
Me also likey Cyberpunk and have since day 1 honestly, but I also didn't have very many technical issues
Me also likey BG3
strong forum
same
strong forum
except starfield, i get bored in record time by bethesda games
jagged pier
I didnt play cyberounk till .1 patch so game wa fixed when i first played it
chilly brook
Literally single player RPG chads suffering from success
jagged pier
Me no have time
Same
waxen frigate
Wont be beating that because im the tank that has to stay out
Are you dwarf or how do you manage it
chilly brook
everyone dorf these days
jagged pier
I am a dwarf
And apart from that not really
Because i literally have to be topped before the phase which barely happens
So i die as they come out
waxen frigate
Lul
jagged pier
Because even when the boss isnt there
waxen frigate
You can’t live with like
waxen frigate
Wall, pot, hs?
jagged pier
I use hs and pot
In the intermission to live
And wall is just coming back off cd at the end of the phase
Well intermission
pallid quiver
simply apply cheat engine
jagged pier
KEKW
pallid quiver
Do you have a mage? Hit him
pallid quiver
Tell the mage to stay at your place anytime you're going for that boss (I'm assuming Sark I only half like quarter context), and then hit him in real life
jagged pier
Shield slam more earlier
What do u think im doing
jagged pier
Smh
waxen frigate
Just be me and have a panic attack every time you do it as brew
jagged pier
I SS more than the average person trust me ive seen the logs
But then again they dont need to stay out
pallid quiver
jakey's over here having actual thought and problems over here and then nish and i are here, negative brain cells having ass
jagged pier
Just be me and have a panic attack every time you do it as brew
Oh i have that anyways
waxen frigate
Oh i have that anyways
pallid quiver
They're all anti-brain cells because you've played too much wow smh
waxen frigate
Tbf
waxen frigate
I was told about an hour ago that I’m a perfect case study for how lackluster mathematics skills contribute to communication barriers in theorycrafting
jagged pier
waxen frigate
It’s ok though I figured it out
strong forum
I was told about an hour ago that I’m a perfect case study for how lackluster ma...
literally me
jagged pier
whats this 40% crap
Gutted it for ST so we worst of ST damage again
jagged pier
Pretty big for m+ tho
Overall dr instead of to 1 target and puring tr from 1 target doesnt matter too much in he grand scheme of things
toxic pewter
Gutted it for ST so we worst of ST damage again
yeah dang, so with the 3 sec cdr to TR we basically going uproar instead of UF or wat
jagged pier
Well u get about 3 times more TRs so its actually a TR increase
On ST but still feels bad
120% instead of 100% but thats with 4p and its likely for a very long time u play 2pc 2pc so it does infact suck
jagged pier
Yer on ST
30% SS damage
The napkin maths is 4 mythic tier pieces will trump 2pc 2pc
In ST
jagged pier
M+ go ham wear 4pc
strong forum
ye defo
jagged pier
after the nerf, im not so sure anymore
F perma eating tr for 40%
strong forum
but raid youll wear 2pc2pc for a good while
jagged pier
See what sims and sense do
vital oak
Even with the ilvl differences?
jagged pier
Yes
vital oak
wow
pallid quiver
It's only 2 pieces that don't have to be, and buffing SS is notable for ST damage
jagged pier
Its 15% - 30% of your main damage ability