10/10 non-common twitch user gets the generic popular recommendations
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pallid quiver
sick sentinel
That is just stupid
sick sentinel
Oh im a girl watch me give me money teehee
lusty grotto
you cant lie
grim pilot
twitch feeding me ph content
lusty grotto
those are targetted adds
grim pilot
🧢
karmic plinth
people do send them money at the end of the day
sick sentinel
Twitchhub
lusty grotto
excuse me, you just dropped your hat
karmic plinth
dont hate the player hate the game
lusty grotto
pallid quiver
Yeah, on the streamer side, zero hate/complaints on my end, gotta respect the hustle
lusty grotto
jb grinding them EU keys
lusty tiger
Justin beiber?
proper roost
Stealing this one thanks
warm plinth
very nice sir
warm plinth
those are targetted adds
Facebook keeps giving me hims.com adds 😦
modern brook
"This advertiser is looking for : men over 18 who are disappointing their wives"
lusty grotto
but hulu is for sure
waxen frigate
echo grail
Hey guys, my uncle, who washes yachts for bobby, said we're getting gladiator stance back
modern brook
Hey nish some sub 3900 io war was pretending do be you for the day
waxen frigate
Wtf that’s crazy
lusty grotto
if u have coin, evokechip will carry ur io
just carry me to gear 1st, ez
now to farm bad luck protection for leggo
pallid quiver
Hey nish some sub 3900 io war was pretending do be you for the day
it's wild what people will cling to for io privilege
strong forum
I member the sense impostor
Of all the people to pretend to be
Picked fucking sense
pallid quiver
Was that one not a meme?
strong forum
Nop
strong forum
Dude came in spouting a bunch of shit
Then claimed to be sense
Which is when everything blew up
And he said "hey nice you actually called me on my bullshit I was just fucking around"
warm plinth
Okay so I know people liked glad stance, but am I missing something? At this point it would legit just be a 5% damage gain right? Because we already have Shield Charge
modern brook
Ima be nom for a day
strong forum
And it basically was just "prot warrior but dps spec"
Nothing else
You lost your threat modifier and you just did normal dps dps
lusty grotto
and nothing was missed because BFA dps was 👍
sick sentinel
I need more dmg
warm plinth
What ilevel are you
sick sentinel
I was holding off dps ngl to not refesh stacks at points
443 in prot cause i use different gear
strong forum
strong forum
come back when you beat this 
grim pilot
most I did was 130
warm plinth
Yeah you should be smashing that 90k with that gear
sick sentinel
I did hold back on packs tho, i aslo could of pulled little bigger but 2 times people die from bursting so
I'd rather have people alive than sit waiting
grim pilot
dont hold back, blast 30 packs at once
strong forum
wish i had PI
strong forum
or aug
sick sentinel
I had PI in raid as BDK was fun
sick sentinel
Can your shield slams hit for 400k tho?
strong forum
yes
grim pilot
in fh
strong forum
on FH last boss
sick sentinel
I went from 1st boss down mid to turtle kill turtle back to council to shark boss and mage still lusted shark boss
Like wat
I didnt even notice till he lusted
I specifically cleared turtle for lust council + last boss
Allswell 17s doesnt matter
lusty grotto
ive done 400k crits
waxen frigate
I’ve done a gazillion jillion crits
lusty grotto
yes we know nish
strong forum
sick sentinel
Wtb 447 main hand
sick sentinel
let me post log and flame me
I dare thee
Tell me how bad i am please so i can improve
sick sentinel
This keeps happening every time
strong forum
underusing ignore pain
warm plinth
Just use loggerhead
strong forum
like youre not using it REMOTELY enough
sick sentinel
I like pain
strong forum
yeah but its why your dps is low
sick sentinel
is it?
sick sentinel
Well i learnt something new today
warm plinth
I can't remember if it's mrt or details but one of their auto logging is fucked up
sick sentinel
strong forum
it should be less than 1%
warm plinth
Holy rage waste
strong forum
what you missed out on there
is almost 3 full outbursts
and 0.75 avatar casts
already
sick sentinel
I'm using DBM
strong forum
in just 3 minutes
warm plinth
it should be less than 1%
You should see @grim pilot 's log that he sent me. Legit first log I've seen that had ZERO rage waste in an entire dungeon and was actually playing well.
rustic knot
Me reading this lesson
sick sentinel
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/9kFHRdQJCWq7vjmX#fight=1&type=summary This was full 22 run which actually logged
warm plinth
Wdym that guy wasted only a little more 😏
strong forum
so are my logs
strong forum
you can see it here already
left is me
right is you
i just press every single button more than you did
sick sentinel
Ah but i had more shield block and revenge
strong forum
in this FH22 you wasted like 8% rage
sick sentinel
strong forum
Ah but i had more shield block and revenge
and 40k dps less
sick sentinel
and 40k dps less
strong forum
no more
warm plinth
Ooooof
sick sentinel
I was def stance whole time
strong forum
44k dps diff
warm plinth
Why
warm plinth
Sir
daring marlin
sick sentinel
as no inv as dps
warm plinth
We're warriors
strong forum
its fine to be scared, but still 8% rage loss, severe undersending of IP
warm plinth
We don't get scared
warm plinth
I'd like to use you properly
sick sentinel
Tbh i've only tanked as prot say in total 60 dungeons to 80 dungeons
strong forum
wish somebody did
like for example
in my 23min run
i cast 38 avatars
in your 25min run you only cast 32 avatars
which results in me having 55% uptime on avatar, vs your 42%
all coming from overcapping rage
sick sentinel
But you main prot i am not as good as you
strong forum
and by overcapping rage, you miss out on additional outbursts and avatars, which in turn generate more rage
no im just pointing things out
not shitting on you
strong forum
having a blatant direct comparison is alot more feasible to understand
sick sentinel
Downtime happens right?
strong forum
only if you overspend
sick sentinel
Sometimes i have no rage for 5-10 seconds or whatever
strong forum
or undergenerate
sick sentinel
Random number from head
sick sentinel
SS proc comes from TC right?
strong forum
if you dont have CDs available, or know theres a rage influx coming soon, dont just empty your ragebar
sick sentinel
Can come*
strong forum
SS proc comes from Devastator, TC, Revenge and Execute
so dont run your tank empty with ignore pain or just revenging
sick sentinel
I hardly execute tbh thinking about it
strong forum
execute is primarily just for bosses or prio targets that really have to die now
but yeah it all just comes down to rage economy
pallid quiver
turn it aoe blizz you cowards
sick sentinel
I'm gonna do another key soon, I will get loggerhead and hope it doesnt fuck up the log
Really annoys me having half logs 95% of the time
sick sentinel
I have it set to log but this is like the 50th time it happened
waxen frigate
I use raiderio
waxen frigate
?
waxen frigate
I’ve been back for 30min how dare u
sick sentinel
I don't pay attention
dusky canopy
I can’t believe they un banned the 12 year old
Jk nish is really 40
sick sentinel
Dear discord, Nish is only 12 years old please reban
I have aug in group now
18 FH
ez clap
Also no def stance this time
Not gonna be a bitch
I will make nomer proud
daring marlin
d stance lol, lmao
proper roost
ok I've figured out the worst possible m+ dungeon blizzard could realistically do
M+ well of eternity
strong forum
not rly tho
pallid quiver
Well, that DotI run died.
But at least the Healer thought I was a 44x ilvl Prot War carrying friends
strong forum
well of eternity is not that bad of a dungeon
pallid quiver
M+ Black Morass
proper roost
you just haven't done it in ages
u dont remember
they wont do bc dungeons thats why I said realistically
daring marlin
I member
sick sentinel
well of eternity is not that bad of a dungeon
wrong, im positive there is bad trash in there
i cant name it or what it casts
but i know for fact
strong forum
the worst dungeons are black morass and violet hold
pallid quiver
They'll bring back Black Morass just for More Ass
proper roost
Also 80% of the instance is rp
daring marlin
Dungeons with stealth and forced rp are dogass
proper roost
cata is the oldest they would do
daring marlin
Nothing to do with trash yogi
proper roost
and well of eternity is from cata
sick sentinel
something about the very start trash has patrols or somethin
sick sentinel
well, see,
pallid quiver
There's a few Wrath dungeons that could make the cut if they wanted to put some elbow grease in
sick sentinel
i was rogue, and this was before the distract nerf
pallid quiver
Nexus comes to mind on that
daring marlin
hell to the no
sick sentinel
and you could distract only the elite of those 3 alone
and he would get on the wrong timing and u solo him
daring marlin
nexus is trash
sick sentinel
so i have bias expereiance
pallid quiver
I'd rather not, but I could see it being workable
Gives the illusion of choice and packs you can pick 🙂
sick sentinel
So fart
proper roost
wake me up when grim batol m+
strong forum
based take
sick sentinel
gate of setting sun not so bad
pallid quiver
Has Throne popped up in PTR testing yet? I really hope they make that dungeon fun; it's one of the prettiest dungeons imo
sick sentinel
well, grim batol would be the dungeon to go to if team has dwarf and orc related lore to dragons
i don't know the lore that much, but i think thats the factions that were fighting there
mighty valley
m+ season with violet hold (wrath) and violet hold (legion)
strong forum
they had the clarity of not turning it into an m+ dungeon in legion
sick sentinel
the only problem with grim batol
is what if u have a guy crash at the dragons
or 2 ppl doesnt do the dragons
and then u have 10000 count trash to fight
GG
strong forum
just remove the dragons from m+
pallid quiver
just a season of nothing but auto-timed instances
mighty valley
would be an interesting exercise to try and turn a one-room dungeon into a good m+ experience. but the point of bringing back old dungeons is to save time, not burn it
pallid quiver
break hyjal up and turn it into multiple dungeons, too
pallid quiver
then people could truly learn that the difficult parts of ICC is not the mechanics
but optimal navigation
pallid quiver
and getting blizz to make the LK not just casually blast tanks out of nowhere
sick sentinel
a kill room box
hell ya
a trap if you will
i just know that VH was really really really bad if u have bad dps group
and u get extremely overwhelmed
pathing issues with mobs that split one runs right the rest go left
Log failed again witrh logger
WTF
Is this bs
It's only logged first boss again
waxen frigate
Do you have advanced logging enabled in your game settings
sick sentinel
yes
Raids work
Sometimes m+ works
But now its not working
It's actually so frustrating
I also had same issue with logger, would log one boss fight in raid then not log again
waxen frigate
Time to get back on my guardian <:sadge:820202363359854633>
sick sentinel
Anyway i went from 79k to 108k
strong forum
strong forum
sick sentinel
Had to solo council tho
grand veldt
Grats
strong forum
poggies
warm plinth
The aug never buffs the tank wdym :think:
warm plinth
Oh I thought you meant like prescience lol
warm plinth
Massive dam
sick sentinel
On BDK i had fatty aug blistering scales was my 5th dps i think
warm plinth
There was a dude in another server saying that an augvoker didn't run the blistering scales talent because he "lost armor". Dude legit thought he was giving 30% of his armor to the target
sick sentinel
140k+ dps BH
sick sentinel
There was a dude in another server saying that an augvoker didn't run the bliste...
Ok i got loggerhead lite, all dungeons ticked, dbm ticked, mrt ticked, if tthis don't work i am never logging again
grand veldt
There was a dude in another server saying that an augvoker didn't run the bliste...
One second I'll show you guys a log you wont believe
snow fulcrum
rank 1 on a cutting edge kill
snow fulcrum
everyone was single target spec so i just cleaved passively
grand veldt
Check out the buffs, blistering scale damage, and heals
I promise you that log is more enraging than a evoker not taking blistering scales talent
strong forum
getting hit in the back alot
chronic underusage of all of your rotational button except thunderclap
grand veldt
This log was about the aug not my failures
grand veldt
Well how much blistering scales damage did I do as the tank?
grand veldt
Yeah, gigachad energy really
pallid quiver
when you really don't trust your tank:
grand veldt
Itd be funny if he did much damage with it
He didnt, it never fell ofd
He had 100% up time
strong forum
only takes 2 casts to have full uptime
shit lasts for 15 minutes
but he cast it 2 time per minute
pallid quiver
"Healing Stream Totem"
wait can you put blistering scales on a totem or is that log funny
because that'd be hilarious if you can
sick sentinel
I think MRT is the issue with logs
warm plinth
I think MRT is the issue with logs
Yeah it's not the first time I've heard of it being an issue with MRT
On loggerhead, make sure you have it logging both Mythic and "Challenge Mode" (M+)
lusty grotto
MRT auto logs, but it should be off by default
i use MRT for logs
so its enabled on my end
warm plinth
Yes, but it does weird shit lately where it stops logging after the first boss of a key
dusky canopy
On loggerhead, make sure you have it logging both Mythic and "Challenge Mode" (M...
Huh.. I’ve always clicked no on Mythic and yes on challenge mode
lusty grotto
and ive been using it for a long long time
warm plinth
Not having the log start before key start can cause problems where it basically records the key as a bunch of trash packs.
dusky canopy
Oh good to know easy enough to just turn them on
uncut juniper
somehow the tier set analysis on wowhead sounds more positive for m+ than the "meh-ish" in the pins here 😱
lusty grotto
llarod is free to draw his own conclusions
dusky canopy
Yeah he doesn’t really chat here
lusty grotto
he theorycrafts as well
dusky canopy
Good guy just separate thoughts
uncut juniper
i wasnt complaining about people having different opinions btw. its totally fine. i was just thinking "hmmm maybe its not that bad after all" :D
south zealot
it depends what you mean by good for m+
uncut juniper
sure thing. im gonna hop on the ptr to check how it feels
south zealot
its good defensively for m+ if theres a priority mob that specifically fucks you up
but if youre just dying to everything hitting you its not so good
its good offensively in m+ if theres a prio add that should die asap but not so good if there isnt any prio target and everything can be cleaved down
strong forum
1 thing it does tho is put TC as your top dmg in m+
Cuz you're gonna send out alot more TCs to reapply rend on your prio target again
uncut juniper
true
strong forum
(which isn't even always the case if the pull is large)
But yeah, you get good chunk of extra TCs
Like 10-15 per minute from tierset alone, which is about as much as you'd normally cast TC without it
It won't double it, cuz natural CD will often also be ready
It'll likely end up our most used ability in m+
dusky canopy
senses bfa 2.0
strong forum
Yeah, just for diff reasons
TC won't be top dmg cuz it hits hard
It'll be top dmg cuz it's just frequent
blazing condor
just me or is the melee range on tsunami kinda fucked
tough with entangling and the bubbles
strong forum
Last boss hoi?
blazing condor
ye
strong forum
The best part is the fact that it knocks you out of melee range
blazing condor
exactly
strong forum
And slaps the next best target if you don't taunt
south zealot
i think they fixed that
south zealot
i havent seen him melee next closest target in a few weeks
but yeah that was super obnoxious
warm plinth
Yeah it's been fixed. In fact, reflecting it as dps war is super awkward now because you have to take the squall buffet hit too
blazing condor
any specific wep thats better to craft
i got a primal longsword rn
but if thats changed
lusty grotto
doesnt matter
blazing condor
thought so ty
is it tiers that make m+ so inflated rn?
feels like a 20 is like doing a 16 in other seasons
warm plinth
Well, we got stronger, the dungeons didn't
Dungeons didn't get base increase this season
blazing condor
that seems more reasonable
warm plinth
I assume because Blizz figured we'd have to learn a whole new set
I feel that they'll have to next season though because with the power gain it's gonna be kinda nutty
blazing condor
yeah
dusky canopy
They actually got a nerf across the bored scaling wise
warm plinth
Since we're effectively going up a tier and a half, instead of a tier
blazing condor
and ppl are pushing higher keys than usual
dusky canopy
Shouldn’t feel overly broken easy though
lusty grotto
im pretty sure youre wrong ghash
warm plinth
They actually got a nerf across the bored scaling wise
The scaling nerf is only for keys past 20 though
dusky canopy
Oh word tru
warm plinth
They scale 8% per level from 0-10, then 10% from 11-20, then 8% from 21+
inland raft
Wrb working servers
grand veldt
Cuz you're gonna send out alot more TCs to reapply rend on your prio target agai...
I'm behind the meta now but I'm ahead of the curve with my hyper TC spam
grand veldt
i think they fixed that
They have not fixed that, it happened to fandy on her stream last night, and I think it works like that for Naraxas too if hes not casting something
median tulip
Interesting:
grim pilot
Dungeons didn't get base increase this season
they did I'm 99% sure
it's just that this whole aug and shitton of nerfs later on in the season made them easier
warm plinth
They have not fixed that, it happened to fandy on her stream last night, and I t...
If you're knocked out of melee by squall buffet, he will not melee anyone else as long as you're back before deluge is finished. If you move out of melee on your own, he will melee other people, like any stationary boss will.
grand veldt
If you're knocked out of melee by squall buffet, he will not melee anyone else a...
Ah yeah, youre right, i just checked, she definitely just walked out of melee, not squall buffet
warm plinth
With entangling + the orbs, it can be challenging at times to stay in melee while trying to avoid everything
Especially since pugs don't like to stack to get the orbs all in one place
median tulip
If you taunt he won't melee anyone else even if you do move out, IIRC
warm plinth
Yeah you can buy yourself 3 seconds if you taunt
median tulip
6s if you use Challenging/Disrupting Shout
uneven mason
whys it feel like Llarolloldddld is overhyping the setbonus
warm plinth
I agree with him on most of it, but a couple things he said, I definitely think are overhyped.
He keeps reiterating that it's good in AoE because it resets TC, but we press TC in AoE so often anyway that I'm not sure how much you actually gain from the resets. And there's pretty much 0 chance we take Sudden Death in keys.
Those are the two biggest things I take issue with
uneven mason
Yeah he mentioned SD and I was like 
warm plinth
or whatever the fury thing with WW was
Merciless Bonegrinder?
uneven mason
whatever the thing that let next 4 abilities cleave
warm plinth
oh
uneven mason
now its just called "WW"
warm plinth
That's just improved whirlwind haha
uneven mason
It used to be called something stylish
hardy snow
arms have sweeping strikes
uneven mason
warm plinth
I never cared for sweeping strikes myself
uneven mason
arms have sweeping strikes
totally not what I'm talking about
The fact that its still on the GCD
warm plinth
Yeah I don't think I played fury when it was separate from Whirlwind itself
Was it a talent before?
warm plinth
Oh so the buff was just called something different then?
uneven mason
yeah
warm plinth
Gotcha
warm plinth
Fury is so much fun right now. Worried it won't be next season though; I'm not a fan of non-AM builds
karmic plinth
He keeps reiterating that it's good in AoE because it resets TC, but we press TC...
you're probably right with this but if you think that sd is probably competing with SoF for him (thunderlord seems to be a niche option in his guide) i don't think the trade off is that big. might be nice for some places like murozonds rise where you have a lot of prio targets too
shell elm
Hey just curious if anyone has tested the Zandalari racial Embrace of Kimbul does it work with the 2 piece set for 10.2 on the ptr?
warm plinth
I will say with 99% certainty that it does not
karmic plinth
Hey just curious if anyone has tested the Zandalari racial Embrace of Kimbul doe...
it doesn't
shell elm
it doesn't
Thanks
lusty tiger
Yeah IDK, it's a fury thing
Pants… don’t matter🤔
warm plinth
🤔
plush tendon
can prot war solo tank a side on Assault?
quick, I dont want to be forced back on the DK
lavish sphinx
They can on Heroic but do you mean Mythic/
plush tendon
<a:hmmNod:940376932560822372>
so like 19 people on one side push boss
plush tendon
and one tank on the other just getting adds
waxen frigate
but depends on the speed i guess
waxen frigate
chad
lusty tiger
daring marlin
augusto owns tho
limpid pawn
but trinkets are tough
pallid quiver
but trinkets are tough
I got mine from a various mix of time rifts (402 and can upgrade) and sneaking into/starting my own groups of DotI/Normal Raid
As long as you don't die, people usually don't bring up any issues if you got invited, and if you made the group, well
restive crown
having a difficult time tanking uldaman, will this route be enough to time a 25? or do i have to pull bigger?
mortal dagger
having a difficult time tanking uldaman, will this route be enough to time a 25?...
Yes, if timer ll be close do 14+15
restive crown
Yes, if timer ll be close do 14+15
where do i tank em if i do them tgt? dps will need to los right
mortal dagger
U bodypulling 14 and goin for 15
Thn turning back to purple
And staying in it
If pull not dead and cds gone
Losing behind the black column
mortal dagger
Basically ur dps ll not get anydmg from casters at gathering cuz they ll stack in green Arrow and after the casts ll end they ll come to ur spot
If u can 2p golem boss u lust it
If not u lusting this pull
And depends if u ll lose 1 lust or not
restive crown
Basically ur dps ll not get anydmg from casters at gathering cuz they ll stack i...
hope they know tt, because i pug usually, and i dont know how i can explain where to stack like that through typing haha
restive crown
And depends if u ll lose 1 lust or not
means first pull, sentinel, emberon/double golem, last boss eh
mortal dagger
means first pull, sentinel, emberon/double golem, last boss eh
Ye
restive crown
alright thank you
mortal dagger
hope they know tt, because i pug usually, and i dont know how i can explain whe...
Just ask to stay at the beginning of the room
warm plinth
This might be the most amazing WoW diagram I've ever seen.
blazing condor
wait servers gonna be down from now til like 17 ?
blazing condor
it fucks me up cus they write it in CEST
opaque quest
Welcome to the european fields motherfucker
blazing condor
oh maybe thats central europe summer time
opaque quest
It is
blazing condor
im stupid
opaque quest
What else would it be lol
opaque quest
I already worked 8 hours. Came home and wanted to open my vault just to get fucked by bobby
opaque quest
Oh baby instead of no realms available it now shows them offline. Cant wait to pull 6 gems from vault in 10 minutes
restive crown
is it possible to do pull 1 as prot warrior if i keep on moving to kite the basilisk? (+25/26 level)
restive crown
or will the caster wreck the party as i am kiting
grim pilot
U can los the caster and people should be interrupting it on that level without a problem
mortal dagger
is it possible to do pull 1 as prot warrior if i keep on moving to kite the basi...
Defo pull u can just stay straight in ur cds
The problem is that u have 0cds in next pull
So u need to kite while casts can went thru
So I pref to do 1+2
W/O 2 crocs
errant leaf
forgestorm good for us ?
blazing condor
yes
errant leaf
i see no strength
errant leaf
kk
sand pebble
Better late than never right? If I eat food with my flavour pocket then swap to forgestorm and swap back to flavour pocket weap I keep the food buff right?
opaque quest
Got 6 gems like i predicted
Sub runs out on friday thankfully. Prolly wont renew for 10.2 either with the crafted gear nerf
blazing condor
how come the vers phial is better than eye in the storm
pallid quiver
In M+, usually Eye in the Storm is more damage overall, iirc, but it's worth less when there's only person swinging at you
blazing condor
yeah that makes sense
errant leaf
is switching weapons during keys a thing ? like forgestorm for bosses then switch back to crafted for packs ?
median tulip
You can macro the switch IIRC
errant leaf
is the diff between crafted and forgestorm huge in st ?
median tulip
Not massive
lusty grotto
is switching weapons during keys a thing ? like forgestorm for bosses then switc...
You would need to zone out for it. Forgestorm Sims lower in keys so don't bother
lusty grotto
Not massive
It's significant enough in ST that a 441 storm is better than a 447 crafted
So I wouldn't exactly say "not massive"
errant leaf
cant we swap weapon during keys without having to zone out ? I remember in sl ppl were swaping between jaithys and stats weapons for packs
blazing condor
if i had a good forgestorm and crafted id probably macro it for m+
might as well min/max
even if its little
not a lot of effort
pallid quiver
Being in an M+ key has the same restrictions as just being in combat, iirc, while you're in zone
So talents/armor pieces/trinkets, etc
urban portal
Yeah just need to remember to
lusty grotto
Forgot they changed the weapon swap thing a while ago
I wouldn't really bother though, perhaps on tyrannical weeks
But honestly kinda not worth since a lot of bosses you just pull trash into
rigid badge
Do you guys still prior Haste/Vers? According to simcraft Haste/Crit gives more dmg. Also some Sites say Crit and Vers are equivalent when it's about tankines?
hardy snow
Do you guys still prior Haste/Vers? According to simcraft Haste/Crit gives more ...
secondaries doesnt change much in tankiness, so you can go both
blazing condor
most ppl opt to go haste crit now
but doesnt really matter
bro is gathering even worth it anymore
mining gotta be like 1k an hour at this point
crystal current
Just work one hour and buy wow token :smart:
maiden nimbus
In Halls, for pugs 15-20, are there any dragon skips I should be doing? I’ve been pulling that whole hallway. Also assuming no priest or rogue or anything like that.
blazing condor
Just work one hour and buy wow token :smart:
actually the play. too bad im unemployed rn 
crystal current
actually the play. too bad im unemployed rn <:sadgers:1022526082278248631>
Just work one week at MC Donalds and quit 🧠 Settled for next tier
blazing condor
In Halls, for pugs 15-20, are there any dragon skips I should be doing? I’ve bee...
shouldnt be needed at that level - ive seen ppl parkour skip the last pack before boss - probably that one if you need to skip
median tulip
bro is gathering even worth it anymore
Stockpile it. Prices will rise when 10.2 drops.
lusty grotto
In Halls, for pugs 15-20, are there any dragon skips I should be doing? I’ve bee...
Not at that level
maiden nimbus
Cool ty guys
hardy snow
Stockpile it. Prices will rise when 10.2 drops.
Unless tons of other players will want to drop their stockpiles upon 10.2 
jagged pier
No ones coming back to 10.2
Still gunna be dead
I think not next expansion but the exapnsion afater that wow will be the 'big' game again
Ppl still scorned by bfa and SLs, and the company
And alot of the new players dont like that there is no endless grinds
Because its what they were used too
But yer i dunno will have to see but dont think many ppl will come back in 10.2 unfrotunatly
hardy snow
I think not next expansion but the exapnsion afater that wow will be the 'big' g...
no MMOcRPG is gonna be "big game", that genre is passé
hardy snow
it wasnt big game, it was big hype among mmo fans bored of WoW
torn gulch
mmos are unfortunately a dying genre because it does not vibe with the new generation of gamers
and the average age for mmo players is quite high
hardy snow
exactly, gaming market has changed unfortunately
real sapphire
mmo is quiet an effort vompared to moba or fps or story-games and such liles
compared* likes*
torn gulch
unfortunately mobile and portable gaming seems to be the future
the new generation of gamers wants instant gratification and dopamine hits
lusty grotto
just because FF isnt being hyped, doesnt mean its dead, its not
torn gulch
ff is not dead it still has a lot of subs
lusty grotto
take it from me who raids in it tuesday/thursdays
jagged pier
No one is saying its dead
real sapphire
think, people are not doing willing to invest the effort in the newer gamer generation
real sapphire
unfortunately mobile and portable gaming seems to be the future
the new generati...
that
remote venture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKGPOL-1YJE This video is good summry what happen with MMO
jagged pier
Oh yer lets listen to a guy that lives in vanilla nostalgia
lusty grotto
yeah no thx
jagged pier
And cant think critically about new things
Because thats basically him at least asmon has takes from legion
Even thats old
remote venture
Most of the mystc with MMO are gone becasue how easy it's to get info about the game
lusty grotto
heard it all before
lusty grotto
mmos dead, someone tell riot
and the other studio making whatsitcalled that is financed by 1 guy
hardy snow
MMO isnt such popular also because approach to online gaming have changed, nowadays its just normal to play online with someone, but back in 2002 or 2003 it was so awesome that you actually could play with someone far away from you and talk to that person, and these player interactions was significant part of MMOs popularity back in the days
torn gulch
and the other studio making whatsitcalled that is financed by 1 guy
ashes
lusty grotto
ah yes ashes of creation
daring marlin
riot mmo gonna own
lusty grotto
i hope it does
hardy snow
riot mmo gonna own
Im hearing it for like two or three years now 🤷♂️
torn gulch
i hope ghostcrawler did not leave the project because he saw some bad things into development
jagged pier
Probably not even gunna play the ashes or roit mmo actually cba
torn gulch
i woulnd love to play a proper riot mmo with their vast lore
real sapphire
interesting multi reason decay over the time. but even if wows primetime passed i dont think the game will die anytime soon, since the playerbase is so... resilient?
lusty grotto
i def wont preorder
daring marlin
Im hearing it for like two or three years now 🤷♂️
Almost as if MMOs take half a decade or more to develop
lusty grotto
but i will play them if they look solid
torn gulch
the rior mmo will take close to 10 years to finish
from the start of development till launch
we are 5-6 years in the development of it if i am not mistaken
daring marlin
It was announced in dec of 2020
hardy snow
i hope ghostcrawler did not leave the project because he saw some bad things int...
he left in march https://twitter.com/Ghostcrawler/status/1633234667527897088
Twitter
daring marlin
old news
torn gulch
It was announced in dec of 2020
development started earlier than that
daring marlin
development started earlier than that
It was teased a year earlier
lusty grotto
Most of the mystc with MMO are gone becasue how easy it's to get info about the ...
That was also true back then, so this is false
Thottbot was a thing
And in eq1 we had allakhazam
So even before WoW's time
Nostalgia is nostalgia
remote venture
okey sure
dusky canopy
Ashes does be looking very solid
My buddies been in since alpha 1 he’s been trying to convince me to buy into alpha two lol
sturdy cipher
the new dungeons are very heavy on magic dmg right? feel like we will have an awfull time compared to tanks who can cope with magic dmg better
dusky canopy
But that’s like big big investment for something that can totally flip hard
real sapphire
whatcha all think about prot tier in season 2 though? i think it might be sleeper broken and get nerfed soon... whats your take?
lusty grotto
the new dungeons are very heavy on magic dmg right? feel like we will have an aw...
No
sturdy cipher
No? like no magic dmg or we will have not that many problems?
lusty grotto
Unless Blizzard does something completely different, melee will be the biggest number in damage
torn gulch
always
lusty grotto
In every single key
lusty grotto
No? like no magic dmg or we will have not that many problems?
Did you forget we have spell block
torn gulch
i am looking forward to reflect the hags in waycrest while other tanks are getting wrecked
weeee
real sapphire
much is reflectable, right? there is little rot tamage
lusty grotto
Aside from dawn2 last boss
Which will be our season 3 crawth
But it is what it is
hardy snow
Crawth was fine until Blizz ruined blocking his hit
blazing condor
🐦
dusky canopy
Big bird
sick sentinel
Cloak enjoyer
lusty grotto
What a waste
urban portal
Wtf 40 40 10 10
waxen frigate
Good morning had a dream last night where double pwarr was meta next raid
urban portal
Are 2 of the same tank ever meta?
waxen frigate
Are 2 of the same tank ever meta?
It’s happened before yea
urban portal
I thought you always take something else for raid buffs
waxen frigate
Depends if you need the raid buffs
sick sentinel
Double BDK
waxen frigate
If all the raid buffs are covered by good Dps/heals it frees up tanks
sick sentinel
I saw double pwarr in sepulcher
urban portal
That’s def not world first guilds or any hof guilds
Bdk was so far ahead of anyone else
sick sentinel
Tanks think they need a healer when soloing purple boss in aberrus
urban portal
If all the raid buffs are covered by good Dps/heals it frees up tanks
I feel like you’d rather just take a better dps at that point
Like another unholy
waxen frigate
Well that’s my point is it just depends on Dps balance
torn gulch
looking at the season 3 gear i remember that rezan gleaming eye used to be very good for us i wonder if it will be good again
urban portal
That would have to be a world where all dps is relatively balanced but tanks aren’t
urban portal
But has it happened before though?
waxen frigate
Yes just not very recently
There were double brew and double bear metas in legion and maybe BfA
waxen frigate
I’d imagine it was doable just not at a RWF level
Just as a quick look
Double brew was world first Uldir
sick sentinel
I am a dps
median tulip
Oh it's Volcanic Spiteful!
urban portal
Sounds like no affix to me
median tulip
Affixes that are somebody else's problem FTW
waxen frigate
Double brew in eternal palace too
I believe that was the last time in RWF thoufh
I think nowadays the most likely double tank you’d see is BDK or ppal due to their potential to cheese mechanics
dusky canopy
For some reason I remember echo tried some Sylvannas with double Prot pal
I might just be making shit up
coral kayak
Is there a diminishing return on haste ? And how much
torn gulch
there is a diminushing return on all stats
waxen frigate
Same as any other diminishing returns but something around 7200 is where it is advised not to keep stacking
coral kayak
Same as any other diminishing returns but something around 7200 is where it is a...
Thanks
Is one of the reasons prot warr not used in a lot of highest keys is that they dont deal with new affixes ? Such as afflicted and incorp ?
inland raft
druid just too strong
urban portal
Is one of the reasons prot warr not used in a lot of highest keys is that they d...
No
dusky canopy
It’s probably because the shields aren’t big enough
urban portal
M+ is dictated by the strongest tank
jagged pier
Oh real nish back
jagged pier
U sure?
urban portal
Raid is balanced by the weakest tank
waxen frigate
Yes sir
jagged pier
Roger that
waxen frigate
They actually had pretty quick turnaround time
I had to resubmit my pics because it was too blurry I guess
My beard wasn’t enough to prove I’m not 12
dusky canopy
So like honest ask, is discord not minor friendly? Or is that a class discord thing
I don’t pay attention to that
I fully get why you wouldn’t want a 12 year old in this chat for obvious reasons
But like generally I didn’t realize minors couldn’t use discord if that’s how it is
sick sentinel
99s too ez
hardy snow
99s too ez
and what about experiments? 
waxen frigate
So like honest ask, is discord not minor friendly? Or is that a class discord th...
There’s laws about digital age of consent
dusky canopy
There’s laws about digital age of consent
Ahh that makes sense, internet definitely is not kid friendly lol
waxen frigate
Yea
urban portal
Did you have to show I’d
waxen frigate
Like I generally avoid children online if I can help it
urban portal
Or something
waxen frigate
Did you have to show I’d
Ya
urban portal
To mods here or discord
waxen frigate
Ill send a cropped version of my shame selfie
urban portal
Damn we even warned you too
waxen frigate
Looks like a fuckin ransom pic or something lmao
dusky canopy
99 haha baby
dusky canopy
At least you’re still a 90s kid
waxen frigate
Just got it renewed and waiting on it in mail
So the cropped part includes my old license and my temp paper one
lusty tiger
Nish fasho 12
jagged pier
Doxing yourself
But thats defo a face of a number year old texan
U cant change my mind
waxen frigate
Ya idgaf
strong forum
ai
waxen frigate
My face is already ez to find
sick sentinel
Sad af zaqali rip
strong forum
dps too low
sick sentinel
Had dps south with me 😢
waxen frigate
Zaqali parses cringe
sick sentinel
waxen frigate
When healers throw rocks I start screaming
sick sentinel
99 rashok coming up
jagged pier
No all star points anyway
strong forum
real parse strat is just burning him in 30seconds
strong forum
FUCK overall parse
waxen frigate
But other tanks def do more with pad
strong forum
pad boss parse? i sleep
boss dmg parse? real shit
waxen frigate
sick sentinel
Going back to algamation for the 99 with anvil
strong forum
waxen frigate
It’s actually hilarious to me you’re just doing the same thing roidstack did
strong forum
who
waxen frigate
Belt
strong forum
Hyuge
dusky canopy
3 99s lol
jagged pier
Its sad that 2 of my mythic kills are zkasarn where i was dead for 40s
And mag where i just played like shit
I was on for 100 there too
But no play bad my guild gets the kill
strong forum
Such are the rules of the universe
sick sentinel
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
waxen frigate
Like I have no idea how I pulled it off
jagged pier
My mag prog parse was actually fucking wild
Mine would have been, my zskarn at the time like rash would have been 2-4k more dps than anyone else at the time
sick sentinel
Also this might not be best ST
jagged pier
But no lets die and play bad
jagged pier
Also this might not be best ST
Im still using that
jagged pier
So 441 isnt an excuse
waxen frigate
I saw it swing between 1 and 8% on rashok prog
strong forum
ye my highest was smth like 9% from frogstorm
waxen frigate
I was so happy to see mythic Djaruun in my vault that week
sick sentinel
25th kazzara
waxen frigate
Only reloe beat me on magmorax and he had way better gear
I fucking cooked with that build man
sick sentinel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6itLf8Vn5pI&ab_channel=AanKattoa my prediction for tyanical deios fights in dawn 10.2, largely due to breath dot, but 3rd phase as well.
sick sentinel
Only reloe beat me on magmorax and he had way better gear
I will beat you
i think its gunna be a really shit time to be a protection warrior
waxen frigate
I mean do you have a Time Machine
