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gloomy vortex
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I can’t believe the fury warrior did not spell reflect at all first half of dungeon

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Just help the healer

trim condor
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yeah, but tbh, healer was sometimes too fast. I had healing potions ready and didnt have much chance to use them

waxen frigate
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Does anyone have the appropriate spell ID for tracking violent outburst stacks

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Seeing Red*

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For some reason the one I used only seemed to work on one stack hmmNod

trim condor
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386478 this should be outburst I think

strong forum
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Imagine not using the bar version

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Smh

lusty grotto
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liquid diet fucking sucks

grand veldt
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So something I noticed when playing with demo shout

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The 20% flat damage increase does not buff up the flat 20% damage reduction from the boss on spell reflects

strong forum
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Correct

grand veldt
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Why is that

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That means we should avoid using it on those bosses

strong forum
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Demo shout only increases the dmg your abilities do to the boss

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And Demo shout only affects the dmg the boss deals towards you

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Spell reflect, reflects the unmitigated dmg back to the boss

grand veldt
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I thought the buff worked like a debuff

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That's so lame

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The retarded interrupt 5% damage buff applies a debuff instead but this one applies a buff

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I started toying playing without the thunder lord talent, I'm kind of apprehensive about it bc I'm already only wearing 1 defensive trinket now with no cheat

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But the syncing of the CD is it really that significant even over higher up time on the damage buff?

strong forum
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Thunderlord is still a dps loss over show of force

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There's just no way around it

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Only potentially with the next tierset thunderlord may be a dps increase in aoe

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There is currently no scenario where thunderlord is an offensive gain

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Other than dropping another relevant defensive talent

grand veldt
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So if im playing without thunderlord, for tyran week

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I'd want to only use ravager and roar with demo shout up

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Never without correct

lusty grotto
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no reason to play TL except for fort giga pulls honestly

strong forum
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They should naturally align

grand veldt
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That's if I'm using it on cd

strong forum
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Which you should, ye

grand veldt
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Even out of combat?

lusty grotto
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like im using TL on NL just for the first huge pull

strong forum
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Huh

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When are you ever out of combat

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For long enough to matter

grand veldt
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Between pulls

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So I goto next pull

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10s down time

strong forum
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Right.. But never really long, it shouldn't matter because ravager and roar will also be on CD ticking

grand veldt
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Yeah so I'm trying to ask do I wait till roar aligns

strong forum
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Yes there will be some short delays, but it's better to just send stuff on CD

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Than wait for things to align

lusty grotto
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offensive wise, yes you should

strong forum
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If its just a few seconds, sure hold off

grand veldt
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Alright cool cool, ty

strong forum
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But wasting potential casts

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Hurts performance more than not trying to align them desperately

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If you wait 10seconds 4 times that means you're already wasting 1 entire cast

grand veldt
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Yeah I was saying the concept of thunder lords net disadvantage is your CDs dont line up

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So the damage buff on your highest burst windows is missing

lusty grotto
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yeah well

grand veldt
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But if I fuck up my timing

lusty grotto
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with DC it didnt happen that way

grand veldt
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Dc?

lusty grotto
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deafening crash in BFA

grand veldt
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Ah

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Yeah so I was mainly asking so I could figure out the goals of the spec dif

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With show of force my aoe rotation will always be shield, revenge, and thunderclap right?

lusty grotto
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it doesnt change

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SS > TC > Rev

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youre not actively min maxing SoF

grand veldt
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Really?

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Isnt that a lot of damage lost or is the rage gain lost too significant

lusty grotto
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you cant, because you'll get SS resets out the wazoo

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just playing normally

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its just a good extra damage when you have to go from rev to tc and vice versa looking for an SS reset

grand veldt
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I wanted to try SoF with that other revenge talent

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That buffs it damage with 25%

strong forum
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Sof buff should happen naturally

lusty grotto
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you want to get ghash angry

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then

grand veldt
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Lol

strong forum
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Like, you shouldn't need to actively play around it

dusky canopy
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The best part about Prot is you just don’t have to give a rats ass about any min maxy buff durations or whatever you just press all buttons on cd
And follow our 3 button priority

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Of course maintain block
And prevent overcapping rage with IP

grand veldt
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Yeah I'm a boomer so I macrod block into shield slam

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I dont want to think about it at all

dusky canopy
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Un do that

lusty grotto
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uhh

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do not

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if you are using that to shield slam

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have a separate bind for shield slam and one for SB+SS i guess

strong forum
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I have Ss macro'd to shieldblock

lusty grotto
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i do too

grim pilot
strong forum
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But I don't notice that macro existing

lusty grotto
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but we shouldnt use it to shield slam 🙂

strong forum
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I had to check if that macro was actually on my bars or not

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Cuz I legit couldn't tell

grand veldt
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What is the net negative

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Shield block is off gcd

dusky canopy
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I prefer putting shieldslam before SS in my macro

lusty grotto
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you will gap

strong forum
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Overusing of rage when you might not need to

lusty grotto
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and rage management yep

mighty valley
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shield slam macro'd to ss. what's next, ignore pain macro'd to ip

grand veldt
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I mean at the min max levels its probably bad for sure

strong forum
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There is no evidence of anyone saying that

grand veldt
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But I'm retarded

lusty grotto
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no

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its bad in every level

strong forum
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It's not bad bad

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But not the smartest thing

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We have infinite SB uptime, but I'd not wanna macro rage spenders automatically to my rage generator

grand veldt
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I mean you guys are right but I retain my brain deficiency position

lusty grotto
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well consider having a shield block tracker instead

dusky canopy
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Sann

strong forum
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Smh

lusty grotto
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there are ways around it

dusky canopy
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Are you gaming at lfr level?

grand veldt
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No I'm doing 24s atm

mighty valley
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just consider it a thing to eventually grow out of

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we believe in you

dusky canopy
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Oh then it definitely matters

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I take comfort in knowing 24s are doable with SB macrod to SS

grand veldt
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I used to play extremely defensively, starting to play a bit more offensively

lusty grotto
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youre not playing extremely defensively if youre doing that

grand veldt
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So maybe I'll work on shaking the habit

lusty grotto
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no block up with spell block on? youre gonna get fucked in the ass by certain bosses and pulls

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because you spammed your SS macro that happnens to SB

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and because you probably dont have SC or LS up to cover

grand veldt
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I need to check my up time on bosses

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I'll look through my logs

lusty grotto
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bosses?

grand veldt
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That's what you're saying right

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I could fuck up my uptime

lusty grotto
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no?

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we're talking keys right?

grand veldt
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Yeah

lusty grotto
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warden chain pulls

mighty valley
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in general you just want to be deliberate about spending rage, sucks if you autopilot when your rage gen is low between cds and miss a gcd

lusty grotto
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uldaman big pulls

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im not really sure how youre doing 24s like this

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but it is what it is

grand veldt
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Are you saying I could like accidentally use a charge at the end of a pull

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And not have a way to have it up

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At the next

lusty grotto
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im saying you're spamming your SS macro that does SB

grand veldt
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I'm trying to understand what the implication is

lusty grotto
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and its eating both charges

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which is fine if the pull is starting

mighty valley
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idk nim, not that i've tried but our sb uptime is pretty wild these days, can probably go whole keys on autopilot and not have gaps at times that matter

lusty grotto
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but then after its gone, and lets say you dont have LS or SC up, how are you gonna block?

lusty grotto
grand veldt
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I feel like I always have it up, I havent checked though

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I'll look through my logs

lusty grotto
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link logs

mighty valley
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even if your uptime is good you should still work to not do this

grand veldt
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It looks like hes right though

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90% uptime

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You guys are saying it could be 100% right?

lusty grotto
mighty valley
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yeah this is weak

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dammit nim

grand veldt
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I see

lusty grotto
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86% and that dungeon is relatively small

grand veldt
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We had wipes

lusty grotto
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do you have a FH or BH?

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wipes dont matter

grand veldt
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Well they do bc I have cheat death trinket

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So just sit there

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Waiting to die

warm plinth
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This is a bigger concern tbh

lusty grotto
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well maybe a little

warm plinth
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This is your % of blocked hits with Shield Block active

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Stop getting hit in the back nerd

grand veldt
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Yeah

warm plinth
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nerd is an appelation of love btw

grand veldt
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That is an issue but how do I do that during open pull?

lusty grotto
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do you have a FH or BH log?

warm plinth
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Use heroic throw, strafe packs

lusty grotto
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strafe

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or backpedal

grand veldt
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I do but I'm on phone rn but you can look up my character

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I log everythibg

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Momohammed-proudmore

warm plinth
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Make sure you're not running through mobs to get places basically

grand veldt
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Yeah I'm definitely doing that

lusty grotto
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82% blocked in BH

grand veldt
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I knew strafe helped but didnt know it would literally stop me from getting back hit

mighty valley
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your "front" is a pretty big cone

warm plinth
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Basically you can only block things that hit you from the front 180 degrees of your character

lusty grotto
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84% on a 20 FH

mighty valley
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so yeah, a combo of uptime management and moving to always face

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also you're overcapping rage a bit

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try and stop that

warm plinth
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Harrow, can I ask you a question

mighty valley
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Of course

grand veldt
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Yeah I'm still trying to get better

warm plinth
warm plinth
mighty valley
grand veldt
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Tyty, I need to practice strafe approaches, normally I'm so worried about threat on opening pulls

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No one ever holds dps while I'm wasting global's on defensives, taunts, and heroic throws

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Opening pull on big pulls always suck

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And then the lurkers in NL

warm plinth
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Basically what I do is just thunder clap the first pack I come to, drop ravager on another, and strafe to a third and revenge/tc if it's available. Then as soon as everything is gathered, you can demo>shield charge>TR

mighty valley
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once you start panic taunting and throwing on a pull, you've kind of already lost, you just gotta confidently group and get your CD's and rotation going

warm plinth
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Shield Wall is off GCD as well, and you can use that liberally since it only has about a minute CD

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If people die and you're doing what you should do, then that's on them

lusty grotto
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wdym the lurkers?

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do you mean the Hulks?

grand veldt
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The lurkers reset aggro

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And dps never keep it close

lusty grotto
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ah the worms

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just taunt

grand veldt
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So you're trying to aoe taunt

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Or heroic throw bbn

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Or taunt

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While flying around

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Because no one is stopping the chunk

lusty grotto
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aoe taunt wont reach em most of the time cause ranged likes to stand in africa

grand veldt
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Yeah

south zealot
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if they die to lurkers its their fault

warm plinth
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ngl I think the only time I've used challenging shout this expansion is by accident keks

pallid quiver
warm plinth
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Speaking of lurkers, I gotta ask why the fuck people get hit by the frontal soooo much

grand veldt
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Wait doesnt knock ups make me get hit in back too?

warm plinth
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Not necessarily

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They can, but there's not a ton of things that knock you straight up. Generally they knock you up and slightly back

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e.g. storming

grand veldt
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Kk just checking

pallid quiver
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Main time I've used Challenging Shout is because someone decided we're fighting two more packs than intended and I'd be pulled into it anyway, so might as well try and control it

grand veldt
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I always use disrupting shout for pugs outside of NL

lusty grotto
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i dont

warm plinth
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To be fair, I have not tanked a ton on warrior this season either.

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Disrupting Shout is kinda...not that useful.

lusty grotto
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ive never used disrupting shout this season lol

warm plinth
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A lot of the dangerous casts have been set up by Blizzard to not cast simultaneously

lusty grotto
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i used it for dathea last season at most

grim pilot
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I like it for ulda on sanguine

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and overall for sanguine

pallid quiver
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I didn't use it for Dathea last season, so I've never talented it ever.

grand veldt
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Ulda,, BP, hoi

grim pilot
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also it lets me pull big in undr without risking 1 interrupt a minute

warm plinth
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Who is Dathea

grand veldt
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Vp*

warm plinth
lusty grotto
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nope

pallid quiver
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Solo tank fight ezpz

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simply charge/leap

lusty grotto
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dont need that shit on those dungeons

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you have shockwave and fear for stops

pallid quiver
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And Storm Bolt

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plus punch

lusty grotto
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aoe stops is what i meant

warm plinth
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Yeah, idk. I just can't ever see me using it often enough for it to be worth using.

pallid quiver
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Yeah, I should have thought of that

warm plinth
pallid quiver
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pummel

grim pilot
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I lose bloodsurge to get that, it's not the end of the world for me

warm plinth
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Oh

lusty grotto
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like i understand it being good on certain dungeons last season, but not this season

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its a wasted talent point

warm plinth
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bloodsurge is a ton of rage lost in keys

south zealot
warm plinth
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like if you want to give up something for it, just move show of force over to it

south zealot
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bloodsurge owbs

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owns

lusty grotto
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or just dont

south zealot
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feels good

lusty grotto
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because you can LoS shit in uldaman

warm plinth
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I'll LoS your shit

lusty grotto
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so it REALLY REALLY ISNT needed

warm plinth
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gottem

grim pilot
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I use either

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But

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If its ulda on sanguine

lusty grotto
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just LoS

grim pilot
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I lose thunderlord too

south zealot
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idk i still dont see the value in jt

mighty valley
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part of me wants them to make dungeons where having an aoe interrupt is huge. but then i'd want them to give us an extra talent point

grim pilot
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I think I use it mostly out of habit using it in s1

grand veldt
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Alright I have one more bad habit that I'll stop

grim pilot
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But recently I havent been using it really

grand veldt
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I had avatar macros to SS too

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Should I macro it to demo instead

lusty grotto
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thats not bad

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no

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you cant

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demo is on gcd

grand veldt
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Oh ok good

lusty grotto
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well i guess you could

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idk

warm plinth
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Avatar is off GCD

lusty grotto
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avatar + ss is fine

warm plinth
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Don't macro it to Demo though because the CDs don't line up

lusty grotto
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using a shield block charge cause you want to SS is the problem

mighty valley
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i'm not gonna get mad at you but genuinely work towards just having everything on its own keybind

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there's niche cases where you might want to delay avatar deliberately for a second for the root break

deft mortar
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we need a talent called Zug zug at this point

grand veldt
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Zug zug is based

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And yeah the idea of having avatar to SS is I never know when itll be off cd

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I want to maximize it's up time

mighty valley
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you know by looking at the cd?

warm plinth
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Yeah, it's a risk because you're gonna SS all the way to the end of a pull, but you don't want Avatar casting when the last mob dies

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But you also don't want to hold SS just so you don't cast Avatar

grand veldt
# mighty valley you know by looking at the cd?

Yeah true but also like, I have a million ICD timers I'm watching, interrupts and stuns I'm trying to time, call outs for incoming stops while focusing my rotation, positioning and defensive management

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Like idk the less I have to think about the better

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That's a big reason I like this SoF build

mighty valley
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like i said i'm not gonna get mad or call your mother to complain, but it's definitely suboptimal and worth working towards

grand veldt
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Oh and dont forget my favorite thing in pugs is typing and asking people to use defensives

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Or potions

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While tanking a boss

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Or naraxus

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Love that shit

grim pilot
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Huh what keys are you doing

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Where you have to coordinate everything and people dont press defs

mighty valley
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surely if you're having to type and ask people to pop a defensive, they're already doomed

grand veldt
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Working on 24s atm

grand veldt
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The spell icds

lusty grotto
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you shouldnt be saying these things

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if they arent doing them

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they are not worth timing for

warm plinth
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What spells have an ICD?

lusty grotto
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period

grand veldt
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All the enemies in dungeons

warm plinth
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You do not need to do that

grand veldt
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You keep track of their ICds on spells like avalanche

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Spear flurry

warm plinth
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Avalanche doesn't even matter for you as a tank

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You can eat the frontal; it does no damage

lusty grotto
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those are not icds, those are just cds

grim pilot
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I feel like you’re way too concerned about things

lusty grotto
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youre baby sitting too much

warm plinth
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Spear Flurry has a long enough cast time that you can just side-step it

lusty grotto
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☝️

warm plinth
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Yeah you're taking way too much on yourself

mighty valley
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yeah it sounds like you're choosing to overload your brain thinking about things that matter way less than, for example, your own avatar cooldown

warm plinth
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You gotta let other people deal with shit too or you're just gonna burn yourself out

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Like it's not your job to call defensives. If anything a healer would call it, but in 24s the DPS should just press them on their own and it should be fine

grand veldt
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That's fair but I thought a lot of tanks handle this stuff in higher keys

warm plinth
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Healers call defensives in higher keys

lusty grotto
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not necessarily

warm plinth
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Unless you're like, Nerf

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Who calls basically everything

grand veldt
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Awkward

lusty grotto
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eh nerf doesnt call everything

grand veldt
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He calls a lot

warm plinth
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Even then Ellesmere will say like, I'm using AM for this

grand veldt
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I thought that was the norm lol

warm plinth
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It's not the norm. People pug to 3.5k without even being in voice

lusty grotto
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lately elle has said that they dont call shit

mighty valley
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i call a lot of stuff in comms with my friends, i'm not gonna type "use a defensive" in the middle of naraxas to a pug

grim pilot
lusty grotto
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calling kicks isnt calling everything

grand veldt
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By defensive I mean barrier

warm plinth
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No one is paying attention to chat in keys 99% of the time anyway so you're just wasting time

grand veldt
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Zephyr

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Ancesteal

grand veldt
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Stone skin totem

lusty grotto
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thats for the healer to say

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not you

grim pilot
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You’re 100% overthinking stuff

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Legit

warm plinth
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Like I have a WA on my lust toons that puts a big ass message on my screen if someone says lust in chat

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Because I never look at it

grand veldt
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What's that addon that let's you make notes that have timers on them

lusty grotto
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MRT

grand veldt
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Maybe I just need to use that

warm plinth
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Brooooo

grim pilot
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Esp since you’re a warrior so all you have is cry

warm plinth
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Come on man 😭

mighty valley
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also people calling stuff at that detailed of a level typically have their own kit internalized so they're just on autopilot

grand veldt
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And give people notes

warm plinth
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Just worry about your own gameplay dude

grim pilot
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^

lusty grotto
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MRT wont work on people if they dont have the addon lul

grim pilot
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24’s are just playing right

warm plinth
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You're so so so so overthinking this

grim pilot
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And winging it

grand veldt
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Fair fair

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Appreciate the feedback from everyone

lusty grotto
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ghash

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im on a liquid diet

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colonoscopy prep 😢

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i fucking hate it

warm plinth
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rippp

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What are you getting the colonoscopy for, if you don't mind me asking?

lusty grotto
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well i have symptoms of something bad

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c bad

warm plinth
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Oh no

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I hope everything ends up okay 🫂

lusty grotto
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ive been scared shitless for the last 2 weeks

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
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had been fucking scared about the procedure and the results, but mostly the results as time went on

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but now

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i truly understand what people mean when they say the prep is fucking terrible

coral kayak
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Which is tankier brew or prot warr
?

lusty grotto
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yes

waxen frigate
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Depends on the content

daring marlin
hardy snow
modern brook
grand veldt
warm plinth
grand veldt
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ty

daring marlin
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based af tbh

sick sentinel
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pugging as a protection warrior or any other off meta into keys is like.........you have to have a god complex or you are praying to god take the wheel., probably....

lusty grotto
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thats not it

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lol

sick sentinel
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cuz its like, your introducing chaos by pugging, or by playing offmeta

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and then its like capt planet they combine for depletion

lusty grotto
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classic monday yogi take

sick sentinel
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i refuse to do monday night keys any more

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already did 1 key

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i'd rather do a key on tuesday to friday

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frankly, the rumor about "more kids/boomers on the weekend" is true, from many years of gaming in general

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super fast and easy to get a great shot at a timed key on tuesday

daring marlin
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oh shit

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WCM means balefire

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balefire owns

warm plinth
lusty tiger
lusty grotto
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i really dont wanna think about it so ive been blasting tv series/games/movies

proper roost
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gl nim i hope you're enjoying your binge of entertainment content

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have you tried factorio chatting

hazy laurel
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so i have a question, i have 27% haste with a howling rune and i rarely get shield slam procs on bosses or trash in M+. is there something im doing wrong or do i need more haste, im always using something so that might be the issue, wether its revenge or Thunderclap while Shield Slam is on CD

warm plinth
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I find that incredibly hard to believe. I think it's more likely that you're missing the procs than that they aren't happening.

jagged gust
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AAs, TC, revenge and Exe all have a chance to proc SS, your entire basic rotation has a 1 in 3 chance to proc it

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Though that is incredibly low haste

hazy laurel
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im only 422, but im using the WoWhead build right now, not sure if thats the starter or if i should look at other builds

warm plinth
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Ilevel, haste, etc. will not matter to a significant degree. Certainly not to the point where you feel you aren't getting any resets.

jagged gust
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the only problem I have with wowhead builds is they take Pain and Gain over Bounding Stride in the m+ build

hazy laurel
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the heal isnt that useful? just passive regen from what i can see but i could be wrong

warm plinth
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It's only like 1.5k HPS

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I'd rather have the increased mobility from bounding stride

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Though to be clear, that's a flex point, and you can have it wherever you want

proper roost
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stats don't affect proc chance

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You're just missing procs or not pressing buttons

jagged gust
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Well haste will to some extent

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more haste more rage more casts more procs

proper roost
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Chance

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I did not say rate

jagged gust
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true

hazy laurel
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i do tend to get rage starved, which is dumped into Ignore Pain when i still have shield block up but then ill get hit with shield block going down and then ignore pain will drop

jagged gust
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ignore ignore pain

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if its up its up, if its not its not

hazy laurel
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O.o may i ask why? i thought it was part of warrior's surviveability

cinder nova
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Ignore pain untime as a focus is useless. We use it as a rage dump, and then Brutal Vitality will eventually be self-sustaining with the right number of mobs to damage.

#

The only time you're actively pressing it is for huge tank hits where padding your HP is useful to avoid spikes even through DR.

#

And that's rare in anything that's not super high keys or mythic fights.

jagged gust
#

plus you wind up using it as a rage dump so often it's uptime is high regardless

cinder nova
#

We rage dump with it because it feeds Anger Management.

hazy laurel
#

ahh ok, so ignore Ignore pain unless Revenge/Shield Slam is on CD? or im about to cap rage?

cinder nova
#

Ignore pain if you're about to cap rage.

#

There's nothing else to it.

#

You literally can't starve just pressing Revenge if you're building rage properly.

hazy laurel
#

i may have a issue with rotation then

jagged gust
#

The rotation outside of big cd's is to spam TC/revenge until SS comes off CD

#

and to always press SS/TC on CD normally with a priority on SS

hazy laurel
#

Awesome, thank you guys so much, going to be much easier to tank now. Been wracking my brain around why im always low on Shild Block uptime and it was pushing me to my limit as to why

warm plinth
#

To be clear, Revenge is your primary rage spender. But by itself, especially during cooldowns, it can't prevent you from capping rage. That's where Ignore Pain comes in.

#

It will naturally be up a high % of the time, but it's not something you go out of your way to keep up; it just happens naturally as part of the rotation.

jagged gust
#

Just to be sure, you're using Shield Charge and Last Stand on CD as well right?

hazy laurel
#

yea, im not using bolster, should i use that talent over Tough as Nails?

warm plinth
#

If you have at least 2 pieces of the current tier set, you should be using Bolster instead of Tough as Nails.

hazy laurel
#

ahh ok im 4p so ill swap that out, and does the shield block from last stand count as uptime or will that mess with it

warm plinth
#

Yes, it counts as Shield Block

#

It won't mess with anything

#

Just ideally don't use Shield Block during Last Stand because it can potentially be wasted

hazy laurel
#

ok didnt want to look at a log and wonder why it was down

jagged gust
#

I thought the SB cap can be exceeded by LS

cinder nova
#

It can be.

hazy laurel
#

i do see another talent i didnt have, was using heavy reprucussions and not Into the Fray

cinder nova
#

ITF is like 12-15% haste depending on your current amount

#

even though it says it'll cap at 10%

warm plinth
#

But it's still not a good habit to get into to keep pressing it because LS is 15 seconds. So it's entirely possible (and even likely) that LS will last most of the length of a pull

cinder nova
#

The more haste you have the more haste you have

jagged gust
#

yeah thats another that gets dropped once you have your set

warm plinth
#

So if I just smash SB during LS, then I could end up with more duration than I need for the pull, and then I waste uptime going between pulls

hazy laurel
#

man i should have come in here and asked earlier instead of pulling my hair out

warm plinth
#

You're not the first person to try to wing it and then have to come get clarification, and I'm sure you won't be the last. You're working to improve and that's what is important.

jagged gust
#

Hell when I first started I thought you cast shield wall to cover downtime when shield block wasnt up, learning is what this forum is for

hazy laurel
#

i was always scared i would get ripped apart like i was in Shadow Priest when i was learning that XD

warm plinth
#

And the most important part of prot warrior

#

is to look at this adorable cat picture

hazy laurel
#

awwww so cute!

proper roost
#

Good cat

jagged gust
#

My cat devising ways to steal my lap from the dog

warm plinth
#

I don't mean to alarm you but that face is screaming that murder is his first choice

jagged gust
#

He doesn't know there are other options

#

he's usually a pretty.... cool cat

warm plinth
#

oh shit that's cool af

#

how do you even handle living with that much cool

jagged gust
#

I actually gave him my house and moved to a different continent

#

I just wasn't worthy enough to be on the same soil as him

#

I hear Queen even wrote a song about him

warm plinth
#

dang, that's intense

#

I think you made the right choice though

sullen gust
#

Maybe it's already been asked, but how do people who have played the next dungeon rotation feel about it for warrior? Are there any things that will suck like heavy bleeds or magic damage, or is it mostly quite warrior friendly? Just ballpark, ofc things will probably change but I've never played most of those dungeons before

urban portal
#

Tuning can change at a moments notice

#

But melees have always been 60+% of damage taken in any dungeon

sick sentinel
#

And range cry more about them having it "harder"

sullen gust
#

Thats fair, I guess its just a matter of wait and see

proper roost
#

there isn't really such a thing as warrior friendly or not because of how straightforward the kit of this spec is. it doesn't offer anything unique amongst tanks (kinda SR but really niche), when prot warrior has been meta it's just been strong with tankiness and/or damage

#

And tuning/balancing is nowhere near finalized for tierset or spec itself so

#

If you're asking how meta it will be you might as well ask what next week's lottery numbers will be

#

I know the answer to the lottery numbers obviously but i'm not telling

ionic fern
warm plinth
#

He's precious ExcitedBlushette

weary saddle
#

If affixes in S3 are same as S2, then protwar is disadvantaged.

#

eg afflicted

proper roost
#

lol

warm plinth
#

Who cares about the tank not having a dispel or CC for afflicted/incorp

#

That's what the other 4 people are for

jagged pier
#

healer job

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as they are up for 10 cds and dispell has a 8 sec cd

#

ir they can just heal 1

ionic fern
#

From a purely pug perspective i can acknowledge that claim that warriors are at a disadvantage. I hate relying on pugs doing anything.

#

That's why i enjoyed prot pally way back..could just interrupt/heal/dispell everything myself.

jagged pier
#

but next season i can dps for u in keys mwahi

#

as prot of course

#

because im not allowed to reroll

ionic fern
#

We got 2 fury warriors already in raid.
Am i going to be the Nr3?

jagged pier
#

yes

#

melee mongo all the way

#

for surv hunter xan

ionic fern
#

BM mongo is way more braindead than Fury mongo tho.

jagged pier
#

but

#

your range u get more mechanics

warm plinth
#

But w/ BM you have infinite mobility so the ranged mechanics don't matter hmmNod

ionic fern
#

Je, that's my debate right now.

#

Fury/BM.

warm plinth
#

...

#

Seriously

lavish sphinx
#

Yikes

warm plinth
#

What a terrible day to have eyes

ionic fern
#

Eh?

warm plinth
# ionic fern Eh?

There was a very gross picture posted but I guess someone else must have deleted it haha

ionic fern
#

Good.

chilly brook
#

They got a warrior trial instead

ionic fern
#

How can they stop you from rerolling tho?

blazing condor
#

leaking digital footprint to potential employers

chilly brook
dense verge
#

Odd question to ask, would anyone know how long or when m+ testing is going on, on the PTR?

ionic fern
#

Was 14th-18th of september

dense verge
modern brook
#

Mwahi peepoBlush

blazing condor
#

still dumb they renamed dragon roar

#

when the expansion is literally dragons

jagged pier
#

dumb our new tier set pigeon holes us into a talent

#

not my words btw

blazing condor
#

u just said it tho sadge

jagged pier
#

someone said it before me

blazing condor
#

which talent

proper roost
#

dumb our new tier set pigeon holes us into a talent

  • Jakey 2023
jagged pier
#

i didnt specify where it was said

daring marlin
#

👀

jagged pier
#

I also didnt say i agree or disagree okayge

#

I dont btw

daring marlin
#

kanga it's time for a new pfp

jagged pier
#

true

blazing condor
#

cool they give u free token when u hit ksm

#

now i got 4p seanbee

sweet summit
#

free wow token pog

blazing condor
#

literlly me

proper roost
jagged pier
#

pog

lusty tiger
daring marlin
#

no dummy

lusty tiger
#

Y sum1 elses cat

proper roost
#

I steal cats for a living

lusty tiger
#

A pussy snatcher if u will

blazing condor
#

deadge tryna get into hc clear as 0/9

jagged pier
#

get someone to link thier achievement

#

to u so u can link

#

no one actually checks them

strong forum
#

link them duellicious

#

ez invite 100% of the time

jagged pier
#

back in BFA i had friends that would link my CEs to get into groups

#

literally worked 100% of the time

#

👍

grim pilot
#

I had some gaps on sb on bosses because they do no damage so I didn't bother too much

sweet summit
jagged pier
hardy snow
grim pilot
#

fuck

#

no way

#

hahahahah

#

I guess I don't read spells well enough

#

30% lost

hardy snow
dusky canopy
blazing condor
#

i would actually look at the achi lol

#

when i made groups

sick sentinel
#

i would raid again if we could remove the 6 hours afk of a 7 hrs raid due to various bullshit

blazing condor
#

no impostors in my raid

sick sentinel
#

im sorry, but if i have to spend more than 15 minutes afk cuz, reasons, i'm literally in hell

blazing condor
#

sounds like a guild issue

sick sentinel
#

like, we got 9/10 people all we need is 1 guy and it takes just fuckin forever

#

like holy fuck

#

i feel my soul leave my body, just waitin for the dude to appear and be invited and be summoned or travel, or raid leader to get back or piss break to stop

dusky canopy
#

Raiding without an organized guild is just a waste of time. Nothing blizzard will ever do will fix that

blazing condor
#

almost like its a benefit to make connections to other players in a massive multiplayer online game

dusky canopy
#

They could lighten the trash and add respawns at the boss but you will still have wasted time waiting for pugs

jagged pier
dusky canopy
#

Their is no way around it

blazing condor
errant moat
sick sentinel
#

and then even once he's summoned there....................... maybe he does / does not have the required quest, maybe his gear sucks did they forget to pick up healthstone, have to spend probably 5 minutes minimum explaining the strategy group is doing

errant moat
#

We live in a society

dusky canopy
#

Nish imposter

errant moat
#

Look at fury

sick sentinel
#

maybe his talents are fucked, maybe his rotation is fucked, maybe his gf is nagging at him

errant moat
sick sentinel
#

its like, a big old shit stew

#

and i dont want to taste it

#

so, thats why yogi don't raid and you can take it to the bank

blazing condor
#

no one is forcing you to

#

bank is closed its 3pm

sick sentinel
#

you must be in EU

#

is 9 am here

hardy snow
#

Yogi, why wont you join some guild to do raid and M+ with guildies?

jagged pier
#

we cant even get yogi to do hc and stream it

#

he wont join a guild

strong forum
#

nish banevading or what is this

errant moat
blazing condor
#

🤡 the world is a mess

errant moat
#

I’m too chronic of a chatter

sick sentinel
#

i joined a guild, but not one i run with actively they do raids i think? the one time i went to spy on the raid

#

there was a bear tank

#

literal clicking all abilities on his bars

blazing condor
#

i did that

sick sentinel
#

not like click like some of the, ALL OF THEM spam click

errant moat
#

You’d think paying for nitro for like 6 years would be a clear indicator that I’m not 12 but here we are

strong forum
#

loo-

lusty grotto
#

good morning

strong forum
#

you clearly paid from your hard earned child labour cash

#

from the starting age of 6

jagged pier
#

^

sick sentinel
#

SOMETHING HAVE TO CHANGE WITH RAIDING OR I NEVER DO IT AGAIN IN RETAIL

#

there, i say it

blazing condor
#

sry wasn't listening what you say

sick sentinel
#

somethin aint right, i dunno what

lusty grotto
#

hell yea, a yogi take i can get behind

sick sentinel
#

but till it fixed, not doin it

jagged pier
#

just go do lfr its their most popular version of raiding anyway

blazing condor
lusty grotto
#

xD

jagged pier
#

because its queueable and can be done at anytime

blazing condor
#

afk loot simulator

strong forum
#

yogi making light of someone being a clicker

#

what a time

blazing condor
#

there's always a higher horse

dusky canopy
#

Nish imposter!

sick sentinel
#

well, click on every single ability, spam clicking

lusty grotto
#

brew hows the guild going, is it good?

sick sentinel
#

i mean, thats like the extreme end almost

lusty grotto
#

no signs of premature death?

jagged pier
blazing condor
#

how many stacks do yall merge on for experiments

lusty grotto
#

when the raid dot is gone

#

you merge

strong forum
#

xdd

errant moat
#

I linked to the thing

lusty grotto
#

nish are you stealing your parents credit cards again

strong forum
#

i stole my own credit card a few days ago

blazing condor
#

i also stole your credit card

strong forum
#

it was expired, i changed the expiration date on the online formula and it worked

errant moat
#

Famous last words

lusty grotto
jagged pier
strong forum
#

so now theres a $10 bill on my expired credit card

#

or idk how it works

lusty grotto
#

poggers

strong forum
#

but it was worth

jagged pier
#

what u get?

strong forum
#

i did an IQ test for shits and giggles

jagged pier
#

pog

lusty grotto
#

room temp right?

blazing condor
#

below average if u pay for an online iq test

strong forum
#

but you never know how much of a bait they are

lusty grotto
#

😄

strong forum
#

and the questions seemed valid

lusty grotto
#

ez

blazing condor
#

dont have to flex that u have an income

#

god damn

#

i get it ok

strong forum
#

😎

blazing condor
#

wish me luck im doing raid now i need trinkets

strong forum
#

cant claim im an eltitist tho

#

didnt make the 1% cut

dusky canopy
#

You done caught the ban hammer

sick sentinel
#

its always fun and games until someone catches a ban hammer

plush tendon
modern brook
strong forum
#

OH SO THATS WHAT IT WAS

modern brook
#

Noms iq test:

lusty grotto
sweet summit
#

i can't...

remote venture
#

23875095123

#

ooh....

errant moat
#

Planning on doing like 7/9m on my pwarr this week—do I even press shield block on experiments

jagged pier
#

they still melee

lusty grotto
#

im so confused

jagged pier
#

and its still 30% damage to SS

lusty grotto
#

is this nish2?

errant moat
strong forum
#

it is nish yes

errant moat
lusty grotto
#

lol

#

just tank as fury

lusty tiger
errant moat
lusty grotto
#

ez

#

how old is nish2

strong forum
#

id rather not take 200k melees

#

but thats just me

lusty grotto
#

but my dam

errant moat
#

That’s why I asked tho pepelaugh

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

a warrior always presses SB

#

buffing 30% of your dmg by 30%

#

kinda important

blazing condor
#

pray for me

lusty grotto
#

man

#

gyazo posters always drive me nuts

blazing condor
#

why

sweet summit
#

TRUE

lusty grotto
#

shift windows key s

sweet summit
#

win+shift+s idiot

blazing condor
#

shift win these nuts

lusty grotto
#

and paste here

blazing condor
#

im not a god damn zoomer

lusty grotto
#

😱

strong forum
#

i prefer shareX

errant moat
#

Hmmge I guess the second infused strikes count as melees/blockable?

blazing condor
#

in my day you didnt have a good snippet tool

#

i won the roll peepoHappy

lusty grotto
#

im older than you lol

errant moat
lusty grotto
#

i guarantee it

errant moat
#

I’ve only played pwarr for 5 days

hardy snow
lusty grotto
#

ok nish2 🙂

errant moat
#

Unlike my alter ego I’m not 3999io on prot

lusty grotto
#

mmhmmm

errant moat
#

Only 3600

lusty grotto
#

ezclap

blazing condor
#

kinda annoying that you need drake crests to upgrade

#

cus you dont really get those naturally if you only do m+

#

unless you go do <16

#

or wyrm

#

idk which one it is

#

below aspect

lusty grotto
#

you get a shitton doing heroic anyway

blazing condor
#

"if you only do m+"

lusty grotto
#

youre raiding now

#

so you dont only do M+

blazing condor
#

only did first 3 cus i wanted trink

#

but truege

#

took like 2 hours to get there

lusty grotto
#

16s give wyrm and count for vault and they are easy anywya

#

aspects dont drop until 17

blazing condor
#

i swear i get aspect from 16

lusty grotto
#

gyazo posting

#

but yea

#

this is a non-gyazo posting keks

blazing condor
lusty grotto
#

either way those keys go fast lol

blazing condor
#

yeah they do

#

it aint no problem

#

i just like complaining 🙂

#

have to go back and do low dgs to upgrade my high ilvl gear

#

feels weird

lusty grotto
#

its a way to incentivize participation in lower keys

blazing condor
errant moat
#

Ok see how is that ok on discord but I’m the one getting punished

#

Madge

lusty grotto
#

LOL

lusty grotto
#

well it does work

#

it doesnt now cause we're giga capped

#

but it did earlier in the season

blazing condor
#

it was a mistake coming back at the end of the patch

#

the catch up is mind rotting

lusty grotto
#

its not so bad

blazing condor
#

the systems are fine

#

the ppl are poopoo

lusty grotto
#

you dont really spend crests after you get a maxed upgrade

#

ah well it is what it is lol

proper roost
#

Bad players always exist

jagged pier
#

i did say dont come back

proper roost
#

if you tilt off other peoples play, dont play

#

Not joking

#

M+ or wow in general is not for you

#

if you get tilted about how bad other people can be

#

Like you are fully deluded if you think it's some unique phenomenon to right now in the season. On like week 2 I was in 8 bricked keys in a row in a day

#

and it wasn't because of "learning" people just straight up didn't kick, stood in shit, etc. If you tilt from bad players then either play with only premades or don't play, you will just not have fun

grim pilot
#

@warm plinth from dying to +17 pull to this

#

I felt invincible tho

#

I was basically without a healer whole first big pull

sick sentinel
#

its more simpler, easy to understand.

#

than windows shortcuts

errant moat
#

How

#

You still have to take the pic

#

How is it easier to go to a website

#

Than to just paste directly into discord

sick sentinel
#

cuz its you click the program and then make a box

#

and then 3 seconds later the website opens

left basalt
sick sentinel
#

hose town inc, ya loll

golden tartan
#

eww

left basalt
#

lol

#

i dont know how to explain it, but i lose the ability to track the normal mouse when theres too much action on my screen, this makes it super simple to tell where i am instantly

#

its probably my terrible eyeballs

lusty grotto
#

in fact, windows 11 does it by pressing print screen now

south zealot
#

noob

#

good job

blazing condor
#

do u get crest fragments in vault as well btw?

lusty grotto
#

uhhh.. i did an 8 key for my augie

#

wait nvm

grim pilot
#

it was +=

#

++

#

xD

#

last boss veri dificult

south zealot
#

last boss ez

grim pilot
#

I got 2nd vp 26

#

time to give it a shot

errant moat
#

How does pwarr feel in vp

jagged pier
#

wel your are 3999 prot u should know

errant moat
#

No that’s the other nish

jagged pier
errant moat
grim pilot
#

idk I dont like tanking vp

errant moat
#

They better get my god damn account back soon

grim pilot
#

then again this is the first time I'm trying keys above 20

#

with decent people that can use their kit

errant moat
#

I did a 25 vp as brew a few months ago and it was surprisingly easy on fort

dusky canopy
sick sentinel
urban portal
#

and you just ctrl v it in idscord

#

discord

blazing condor
#

ctrl + shift + C > win + shift + S

blazing condor
#

also do we just send the pocket anvil on CD or is there a tech to using it

errant moat
#

You macro it into shit I thought

lusty grotto
#

you send it on cd yea

cerulean tusk
#

Ctrl+win+s ftw noahwhite

#

Used more than alt+f4

errant moat
lusty grotto
#

i dont

#

but you can do whatever you want lol

cerulean tusk
#

You lose the ability to extend it outside of combat, if you bind it to SS. But you can do it

plush tendon
#

really helpful for some dungeons with a bit more travel time and you dont want to end up at 0 stacks again

blazing condor
#

peepoHappy ty

plush tendon
#

Anvil is super good when you can get to 5 stacks and then stay at 5 stacks for a long time

blazing condor
#

i'll check it out thank

plush tendon
#

otherwise, if you end up having to reset constantly, then its more ok then giga

errant moat
#

To do that

#

Or just chain better xan

plush tendon
#

sometimes you cant though 😦

#

like, worm boss in NL, I gotta make sure I got anvil ready to go

#

cause there just aint enough time for the slide and to get back in combat

#

and I wanna keep my anvil stacks

cerulean tusk
#

If you got it bound to SS, you will use it at max stats. Then you are sadge as there are no critters nearby

maiden nimbus
#

When you guys sim do you do dungeon slice or patchwork when trying to determine best dps for m+

lusty grotto
#

patchwerk 5 targets no lust

#

and with the buffs you always have on you

#

battle shout and if you have a team then count those, otherwise turn them off

dusky canopy
#

I usually do 40 targets

strong forum
#

just do 5 targets 8 times

#

4head

dusky canopy
#

40 targets 40 seconds lust all raid buffs

strong forum
#

and also boon

sick sentinel
#

how many gb vram is you guyses gpu

dusky canopy
#

24

sick sentinel
#

went from 8 to 8, lmao

dusky canopy
#

I mean bro for doom 1998 you have plenty of VRAM

#

You’re bing chillin

sick sentinel
#

so, im not sure what card ill get next but probably 12 to 16 gb

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doom 1 ABSOLUTELY, can use tons of vram

#

doom 1 will be shitting on video games for the next 100 years you know right

#

for the sheer fact that it runs no literally anything, and the game is both open source, and free

#

so, even in the case that you lose it, or dislike it and want to change it, if you are incline you can do so.

errant moat
#

@ yogi

inland raft
#

I guess i should prep characters for next patch since basically skipped this one, whats fastest dungeon to spam for crests?

strong forum
#

FH/UR

#

can get out of them as quick as 10minutes, FH 15ish

lusty grotto
#

vp too

#

esp on fort

#

def not on tyr

real thunder
#

Hello, would you give up 6 item levels on a belt for 273 leech? Is ilvl king over everything including in this situation?

lusty grotto
#

lol, yes

#

ilvl is king

strong forum
#

belt is a larget stat piece and they nerfed leech

real thunder
#

ok, thx

lusty grotto
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wow been a while since we got this type of question

inland raft
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I still have friends who believe in secondary over mainstat

dusky canopy
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Come to think of it

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It HAS been a very long time since a leech question

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Lol

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#makeleechgreatagain

strong forum
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cuz leech drops ALOT less frequent than in previous xpacs

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or any kind of tertiary really

inland raft
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I miss having avoidance/leech in every slot in bfa/sl

errant moat
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xdd discord didn’t accept my appeal because my ID is expired and I’m waiting on the new one in the mail

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Even tho I even included the temp one

lusty grotto
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i cant believe someone reported you

chilly brook
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augmentation is a helluva drug

pallid quiver
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Nish got shot?

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My condolences

inland raft
# chilly brook augmentation is a helluva drug

Ya only downside is being the only class if its type, adding a new role def was a risky move because its proving yo be so strong but only one class to choose from limits things a lot

sick sentinel
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Declined from 3 17s

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What is this

pallid quiver
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Y'know, sometimes, I hate it when I do get accepted to groups

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got accepted into a dawn dungeon group,

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The prot pally was insane

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i just wanna gear some alts, man

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We don't need to pull two packs of trash with second boss

sick sentinel
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Surely i will get in right

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WOW I GOT IN

strong forum
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Gaming

lusty grotto
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coming through

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pardon me

sick sentinel
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Okay erm

sick sentinel
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man, watchin asmon fight with some idiot about sate of wow

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for nearly 2 hrs lo.l

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Asmon streaming

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Oo

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most recent YT

lusty grotto
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eh

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you mean max?

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"some idiot"

sick sentinel
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Yeah fuck twitch

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some huge idiot drama about he was crapping on belular, and then they are talking about retail alot, a bit of classic. the devs,

grim pilot
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ye legit had on main feed some girl looking through tiktok and her ass covering 70% of the screen

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fucking cringe

lusty grotto
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shrug im watching JB