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strong forum
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It'll take 6min

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With 15 procs

warm plinth
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which is still too much

merry pond
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hm interesting.

strong forum
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But that's consuming tierset like a god

merry pond
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Just gotta rename to Hercules, and I'll be a half god. THat'll do.

warm plinth
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I just feel like they threw the TR effect on there as an afterthought. It's not at all synergistic with the rest of the set.

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They were like hey this is a bleed

strong forum
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I smell that they're buffing the TR cdr

warm plinth
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Let's put this here

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That would be good

strong forum
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If they buff it anywhere near 3sec cdr

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Then uproar will be more dmg than UF

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In keys

warm plinth
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3 sec would be sick

strong forum
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Like. Uproar is already competetive with UF

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In raw dmg

warm plinth
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TR is uncapped isn't it?

strong forum
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Ye

warm plinth
strong forum
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Bleeds are entirely uncapped

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TR is the reason why arms can do dmg in keys

mortal dagger
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With uproar u want to tab as much as possible in demo window

strong forum
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Huh

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Why

warm plinth
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why 👀

strong forum
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Consuming TR with tierset does nothing

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Except 2% extra Dr for 5 seconds

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On said target

warm plinth
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Even fury gets pretty good damage out of TR

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(this is in BH though tbf)

strong forum
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Ye on arms that roar dmg is a bit higher

warm plinth
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Any rampage in chat though keks

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man I'm so psyched about not having fragments anymore next season

mortal dagger
warm plinth
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just give me my crestssss

mortal dagger
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Free dmg from no globals

warm plinth
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But what does tab targeting have to do with that

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TR goes on everything regardless

strong forum
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Ah you mean pair demo with TR

jagged pier
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i mean when your using puish build that wont happen

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cause TLs

mortal dagger
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But when it s

strong forum
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With new tierset you can get demo down to like

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18sec cd

jagged pier
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its like a tiny tiny dps increase

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youll get what like 2-3 full TRs in with demo up

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depending on SS procs

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maybe 4

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like thats tiny

strong forum
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Hard to say I didn't rly test uproar on ptr

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On aoe

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On ST that shit doesn't align whatsoever

jagged pier
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well it wont matter on ST anyway cause youll always consume TR with proc anyway

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no tabbing to get more in the window if it lines up

warm plinth
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I'm still at a loss how tab targeting would increase your damage anyway. Like, whether TR ticks out or it gets consumed, it's doing the same damage no?

jagged pier
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because instead of TR ticking outside fo demo so it loose that 20% for the last ticks

hardy snow
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Maybe Blizz will notice this issue thanks to new tierset and they will change something about it copium

warm plinth
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Oh, right

jagged pier
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u consume it for damage during demo

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on a couple more targets

strong forum
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couple is a stretch

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you have a 6sec window

warm plinth
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Very very minmaxy shit

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I'm not sure Blizzard would consider that an issue Jawor. There are a lot of spells that aren't smart

jagged pier
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yer like i said 2-3 extra mobs mostly 2

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scratch what i said about 4

strong forum
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assuming that SS is your very first global resulting into demo->TR->SS

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that means youd need to get a tierset proc for the first SS

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and really quickly get more SS resets

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over just casting another aoe button

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also if you do demo - TR

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i think full TR gets demo benefit anyway

warm plinth
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I go bedge now. GN friends

jagged pier
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Gn

strong forum
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its 12:32pm

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smh

blazing condor
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bro getting his 18 hour beauty sleep

strong forum
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that sweet sweet depression sleep

blazing condor
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worst part of the morning is waking up

jagged pier
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I always forget ghash is NA

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Then he does stuff like this

strong forum
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can it be 21st already

blazing condor
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what happens then

strong forum
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cyberpunk 2.0 patch

blazing condor
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o

mortal dagger
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Did u try to play w/o extended sb this season? @merry pond

strong forum
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i gave it a shot for 1 dungeon

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absolutely hated it

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too many gaps

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way too much risk for very little gain

mortal dagger
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I played it in most of dungeons

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But a few dungeons u just cant

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Like uldaman and underrot

strong forum
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you need to abuse the SS button so fucking hard to not have a gap of SB after 45sec

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like absolute madman

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to not have a gap

mortal dagger
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Yep

strong forum
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not worth the effort

mortal dagger
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And to not press sb like ape by cd

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Hold shockwave if possible to fill the gap

strong forum
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youll have to play like pre-DF but also snipe every SS, just to get a minor dps increase talent

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not a fan ngl

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like at best you get SoF/TL or Bloodsurge

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and theyre all the lowest impact talents on our tree

mortal dagger
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At least it's not boring

strong forum
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i guess

mortal dagger
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But it s completely unfun in uldaman xd

strong forum
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i tried it in BH

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went full pad build

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not a fan

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like sure i lived cuz it was low key

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but taking naked hits

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is no bueno

mortal dagger
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It s fine in bh if u reseting pulls

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If chaining u need to kite

strong forum
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always chain

mortal dagger
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Which is not gut

strong forum
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this train does not stop

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especially in BH

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i only had 77% blocked hits in that key keksquad

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ohnoes

mortal dagger
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Nah it s just deadge if not blocking fr

strong forum
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less blocked hits than in SL

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man i mustve played like garbage

candid niche
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If it makes you feel any better I know a tank that on a good day can get his shield block uptime into double digits

blazing condor
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dumb lore question but most of the story is gatekept behind renown-questlines right

violet ginkgo
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not really, I mean you can see what renown unlock what quest

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I think only 6 quests related to renown? at least that is what displayed

strong forum
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There are a few quest lines behind expedition thingy

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That seem pretty story relevant

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Like you find alot out about ysera

steep pivot
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hey protection warlords!! my friends, do you think prot war may be good or even decent to play high keys next season?

blazing condor
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yes

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will they be what teams use to push the highest keys possible? probably not

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will they be able to do the same level keys - surely

blazing condor
karmic plinth
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ysera story is behind valdrakken accord

waxen frigate
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But based on what extremely limited info we have from testing it looks very good

steep pivot
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whats the new tier? let me check

karmic plinth
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its in the pins

waxen frigate
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It’s insane single target damage

strong forum
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Eh its like a 12% increase in ST

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Over current set

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Actually no

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What am I saying

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8%

lusty grotto
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morning

strong forum
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It's ~8% increase from current set

karmic plinth
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with 4 set and punish we'll in theory have 14-16% + 9-15% dr a prio target too right?

strong forum
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Multiplicative but ye

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80%ish uptime in 14-16% from tier and 9-12% from punish

waxen frigate
karmic plinth
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i don't know thr maths on how to put the two together keks

strong forum
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It's just slightly less than addition

steep pivot
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wow.. tc and tr on CDR? sweet

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i mean, tr.. tc is reset

violet ginkgo
strong forum
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Bruh idk

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I've barely paid attention

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I just speedrun through quests every now and again

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There are some quests from renown I don't have access to yet

blazing condor
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i like to follow the story 🙂

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also i never played 8.3 did people default on going left side to priestess in Atal Dazar instead of right side to volkal?

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cus i remember right side being annoying as

waxen frigate
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Tanked a few heroic bosses on prot last night for the first time to help out an alt run

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TFW get hit with calamitous strike

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Charge back in

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End up on the wrong side of the boss and just get smoked with a melee to the back

plush tendon
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then priest lady cause priest lady was piss easy

blazing condor
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thats what i always did in bfa

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but saw some teams dabble with different routes

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going rezan to priestess or even priestess > rezan

plush tendon
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there are for sure options in that dungeon

blazing condor
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idk obviously we'll have to see

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but curious

plush tendon
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I think you could do a big pull to the left as soon as you entered the dungeon

lusty grotto
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there were different routes

plush tendon
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had to mark some kicks

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but it was good %

lusty grotto
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rezan 1st was the default route

plush tendon
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and those undead doods hurt

lusty grotto
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like giga default pug route

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but there were more optimal ones depending on affixes

plush tendon
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Could also do Rezan with lust+trash

lusty grotto
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you always did it with trash

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well

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not in lower keys i guess

sick sentinel
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/TTBJGEj5R0o the problem, with wow, imo, is it doesn't have a shot gun

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plush tendon
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depends on group

sick sentinel
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where shotgun

plush tendon
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and then there was the Saurid thing

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jump up on a fire or on top of the wall to group em up so they dont jump on your friends

lusty grotto
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thats the pug snap

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which was cursed on sanguine

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a lot of these wont work anymore

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saurids still snap but they are slower

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so it might not be convenient

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and a lot of trash got reworked like the removed honor guard in front of vol'kaal

hazy bronze
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Depends if the saurids still one shot people

hardy snow
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I hope there will be some juicy spellreflects to do in new season okayge

strong forum
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Wcm 4th boss reflect is gone

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But witches still work

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Brh there are very few casts, none on bosses

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Dht there are basically no reflects

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Atal has dot reflect on priest boss

lusty grotto
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lord waycrest? you can still reflect

strong forum
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I was told you can't

lusty grotto
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you can

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dorki reflected yesterday

strong forum
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@mellow bridge

lusty grotto
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he missed one

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then he landed the 2nd one

strong forum
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Muyuu just bad or

lusty grotto
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probably saw the first one

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cause dorki said "you cant reflect it anymore?"

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but then he tried again and it reflected

strong forum
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Susge

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Well if that's the case

lusty grotto
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i can look for the clip

strong forum
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Then pwar hardlocked again for Wcm tyr pushing

mellow bridge
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yea that's actually what happened

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just saw the first one and heard him saying it

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lmao

mellow bridge
strong forum
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Smh my head

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Never take what streamers say at face value

mellow bridge
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i didnt expect him to fuck it up so badly

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not that hard to press SR..

strong forum
glad apex
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Hi Muyuu

strong forum
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Dorki only played pwar for 0.3 seasons

lusty grotto
strong forum
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So it's not unlikely to miss

mellow bridge
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hi ahri

lusty grotto
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before that is when he asked if he couldn't reflect anymore

strong forum
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Wait why does he use SR so late

glad apex
strong forum
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He almost missed it again

lusty grotto
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no idea

mellow bridge
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yea weird stuff

mellow bridge
lusty grotto
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maybe looking for ways to break it

strong forum
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He even says use he's going to use it as late as possible

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Why

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Just kick lady if she's casting on you

lusty grotto
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i thought he was talking about spell queueing

strong forum
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To not get sniped

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If he sees cast bar is plenty

lusty grotto
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hes only playing with 2 people that he knows

strong forum
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SR is 5sec shorter CD than in bfa

lusty grotto
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so its probably because he doesnt trust kicks

strong forum
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So you have it up for every single one

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Without leap kiting

lusty grotto
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well yea

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cant really blame him

strong forum
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Ah well

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Wcm confirmed mega joke

lusty grotto
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its been a while and a lot of tanks since bfa lol

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for him at least

strong forum
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Pig boss change is interesting

mellow bridge
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what did they change?

strong forum
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Instead of getting dmg buff from consuming add, he just applies a nasty dot on tank

mellow bridge
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D:

strong forum
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So boss doesn't scale out of control if you miss an add

glad apex
strong forum
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Tank just pops a defensive

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And you Gucci

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Can't be dispelled

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And is nature dmg

mellow bridge
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just reflect it kappa

strong forum
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I wish

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But they thought of that

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Dot only lasts 8sec tho

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So is fine

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Or well, I think it's only on tank

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Idk if the group also gets slapped

sick sentinel
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im still mad about that bullshit that happened on bf5 last night

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i do love absurd glitches espcially MP games, but that one was a complete L every possible metric, didnt even record properly

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cant wait to see videos about the pig boss, i assume its part of raid.

strong forum
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Nah that's just waycrest manor

median tulip
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Second boss in VP is a PITA with Entangling

dusky canopy
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Morning warbros

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Are we rioting today or cheering?

lime urchin
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I just sit in a corner waiting for tomorrow, just like yesterday

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Rioting is for losers anyway

strong forum
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why would we riot or cheer

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did something happen?

waxen frigate
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Nomer

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Can u look at my heroic logs from last night and tell me how bad I am

dusky canopy
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No idea it depends on the day right

sick sentinel
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before the world got cancelled we just called him the fat boss💀

waxen frigate
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Ayo wait I 95 parsed?

dusky canopy
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Nish you are slammin bro!

sick sentinel
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but, i came up with a new term since its not really correct thing to say

sweet summit
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actually 96 🤓

sick sentinel
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that boss isnt hard, its really really easy if you have a mage or hunter or shaman

sick sentinel
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hex sheep trap, etc, others work well too, stuns.

waxen frigate
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Had to be the insane p3 padding

lusty grotto
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we always called him pig boss

sick sentinel
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i didnt at first call him pig boss, is what im saying

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back, 2018 was it?

lusty grotto
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you didnt

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but we all did

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cause hes a pig

plush tendon
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I called him Porko Rosso

strong forum
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Nish once again finds out

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That tank parsing is a joke

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You had shit loads of adds up it seems

waxen frigate
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Ya lol

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Padgodx

strong forum
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Your rend did 3k dps more than mine

waxen frigate
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This was an alt raid in a guild that is struggling on mythic sark currently so Dps wasn’t the highest

strong forum
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I mean my pug run wasn't better bro

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Im still r38 with fucking 441 ilvl

waxen frigate
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Yea at least we had good vibes

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Pug runs are despair

strong forum
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My cotank Was 8/9M raider

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Who did half my dmg

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And taunted the boss at insanely dumbass times

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And killed like 4 people with it

waxen frigate
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Lol

strong forum
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And ruined wall breaks so we had to afk alot

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Like how the fuck

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Are you 8/9m

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And this bad

daring marlin
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He let jesus take the wheel

waxen frigate
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Tbf I wiped my new guild on alt heroic echo because I hadn’t done heroic in like

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Literally 4+ months

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And had no idea when we were gonna phase

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And moved the boss too late

daring marlin
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pancakes own

waxen frigate
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So I just played like it was mythic after that and we vibed

plush tendon
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Heroic Nelth is such a pain

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cause you could honestly move so much faster in p2.... but you sort of are forced to wait for spell ques

waxen frigate
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The whole fight is awkward

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And bad

toxic pewter
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I like echo fight

lusty grotto
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heroic echo is ez

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wdym

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lol

lusty tiger
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All the heroic fights are ez

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Some of them do suck tho

lusty grotto
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sark is a wakeup call

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but other than that

lusty tiger
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U think?

lusty grotto
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only cause people can troll dispel and wipe the whole raid

lusty tiger
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I find that one to be easier out of sheer brute forcing the mechanics correctly

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Yea that’s true too

lusty grotto
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and/or troll frontal and get fucked

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and/or troll bombs and wipe the raid

lusty tiger
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It’s easy to troll but also easy to do correct

lusty grotto
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but both of those can happen on normal

lusty tiger
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And u still win

lusty grotto
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its just the dispel thing really

lusty tiger
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Ya

lusty grotto
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its an easy fight dont get me wrong

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i just wouldn't say echo is anywhere near it in comparison with troll wipe mechanics

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i mean i guess you could just beacon mind controls

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LOL

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and/or miss the tank breaks lmao

plush tendon
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its been awhile since Ive done heroic echo

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glad I already got my 450 Ashkandy

lusty grotto
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are you not talking about Echo?

plush tendon
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isnt echo nelth?

lusty grotto
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yes?

plush tendon
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so Im confused by the ???; Heroic Echo is a pain and was a pain when I still did it; and Im glad I dont have to do it anymore

lusty grotto
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im so confused

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but you just said its been a while

plush tendon
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so?

lusty grotto
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im so confused, you've done mythic and you think heroic echo is a pain?

dusky canopy
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Yo that first ptr boss!

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BiG pad

plush tendon
dusky canopy
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No way that’s on all star

plush tendon
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I dont think those are the same things

dusky canopy
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Wait is it first?

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I’m talking the tree anyway

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Wherever it is

lusty grotto
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i didnt say it was hard read again

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i feel like im being trolled

waxen frigate
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Similarly to vigilant guardian heroic is more annoying/a pain in the ass than mythic

lusty grotto
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so inconsistent lol

waxen frigate
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Also on heroic in particular there’s a bug

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That I’ve never noticed in mythic

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When breaking p2 walls

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Fairly often in heroic I will end up on the other side of the wall with no hole

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And I’m like ???

lusty grotto
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bro

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every single fucking time someone says that

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its cause they miss it like a noob

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every time

waxen frigate
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How do I miss it

lusty grotto
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in every single pug ive been in

waxen frigate
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When I’m literally

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Across the wall from the group

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Like what

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Think about what you’re saying

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How the fuck can I miss the wall

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When I ran through it to get to where I am

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And it only ever happens in p2

lusty grotto
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did you get sundered near the arena wall?

waxen frigate
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As in the natural wall?

lusty grotto
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yes

waxen frigate
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No

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I got sundered next to the add

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And then ran over

lusty grotto
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LOL

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ok

waxen frigate
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?

warm plinth
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Nice try ghost

dusky canopy
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I am the execute

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Be the execute

warm plinth
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Or in this case he's the wall

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He focused so hard on breaking the wall that he became the wall

hardy snow
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imo both Echo and Vigilant were pretty cool on mythic and dogshit on hc

waxen frigate
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Echo is dogshit overall

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But better on mythic than heroic

limpid ruin
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The WA debacle kind of ruins mythic echo for me

south zealot
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as a melee you don’t need a weakaura

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especially as tank

limpid ruin
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But you do need to wait for everyone else to fix theirs

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And repeat every time you get someone new in

south zealot
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turn on netflix

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we just throw up a break timer

waxen frigate
south zealot
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boss was pretty fun

limpid ruin
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Tbf we decided to change which ones we using for some reason on the reclear so we got 2x the fun

dusky canopy
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@south zealot tried out your build for arms. I liked it, doesn’t feel to bad dropping mass and a point in bb to bs/hurricane in all keys

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Natty sks build without BS feels kinda meh on trash

waxen frigate
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Try out my build

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(Bleed support)

dusky canopy
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Haha you playing deep wounds and second wind aren’t ya

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Errr

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Fore head..

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FBV

south zealot
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bladestorm hurricane is only a couple thousand dps loss

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it seems like its more than it is but its minor

dusky canopy
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Boss damage you mean right?

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Overall is higher

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For tyr weeks

warm plinth
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Don't play Nish's build. It's cursed.

waxen frigate
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Nah it’s based

warm plinth
lusty grotto
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nish build 💯 good

south zealot
dusky canopy
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Do you try to bladestorm inside CS if you can help on bosses?

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Or just send it

sick sentinel
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the entire game was basically new to me

lusty grotto
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what does that have to do with calling a pig a pig

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🤷

sick sentinel
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still was taking game in at that point

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took me while to even realize what half the things were in BFA

lusty grotto
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yogi this conversation ended 2 hours ago

modern brook
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wastn panda 7.0?

sick sentinel
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pig boss im more accustom to is the like, boar model

lusty grotto
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you said before it got cancelled, nobody cancelled anything lmao

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it was always pig boss period

sick sentinel
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well, i said it was before the world got canceled, but ya lol

sick sentinel
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i dunno you didnt notice in the last couple years we got extremely PC

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like the world in general

lusty grotto
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no

sick sentinel
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removing greenskins, is a recent victim of it

lusty grotto
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and this is not the place for anything that sounds political

sick sentinel
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as a recent example

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i just figured that there was possibly some cool new boar model raid boss, got infused by something

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you can check out the messages from that time

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and then im..... huh....?? pig boss? waycrest........ oh ya.....

sick sentinel
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i don't typically call it the pig boss

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never really did

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called it banquet

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as i said earlier, again, you can scroll up an check it out

daring marlin
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oinker boss

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SUUUUUUUUEYYYYYYYYYYYY

sick sentinel
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because i have to actually look at it for more than 5 seconds to realize "oh its a pig"

lusty tiger
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i cannot wait to go back to waycrest

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i think im going to do some ptr this weekend

dusky canopy
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Oinker

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That’s clearly a

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Ms piggy

blazing condor
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i never liked waycrest

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ppl hype it up and idrgi

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narrow and nothing really fun

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tree boss is like the only thing thats ok

lusty tiger
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a lot of mobs and not a lot of kicks

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and snap spots

sick sentinel
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its memorable and fairly forgiving even though it looks like it should be hard

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thats why

lusty tiger
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and an immaculate haunted house vibe

sick sentinel
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BOO, HAUNTED HOUSE

lusty grotto
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well waycrest is aids on sanguine

lusty tiger
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yes

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but sanguine is aids

lusty grotto
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and it was fucking aids on ghuunites

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also

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but it should be chill now

sick sentinel
lusty grotto
#

except for sanguine

sick sentinel
#

wcm in a nutshell

#

literal

#

fite me on this, you cant

blazing condor
#

last boss was just a big whatever

#

like if you got there

#

run was done

#

i dont think ive ever wiped there

sick sentinel
#

yes but no last boss

#

last boss is hard for bad players

blazing condor
#

literally just throw a torch

#

thats the mechanic

sick sentinel
#

that don't kill the adds and use the torch at wrong time, or don't kicke darkened lightning

#

that shit fuckin hurts btw

#

tyranical = it isn't kicked, you die/wipe

blazing condor
#

one thing to interrupt in the entire fight

sick sentinel
#

yes, but it hurts like hell, trust me

blazing condor
#

its a miracle you even got to the boss to begin with if no one interrupts it

sick sentinel
#

hits like, more than 1 player at least i know

#

its a huge prio issue on that boss not to let it go through

lusty grotto
#

Evokechip is 68 😄

#

might level magechip after

lusty grotto
#

what the fuck is this icon?

#

first time i see it

#

doesnt have a quest either

blazing condor
#

Lean quest

lusty grotto
#

must be an addon or something

blazing condor
#

Isnt it for allied races

lusty grotto
#

whats a lean quest

#

this guy is the rep weekly guy in valdrakken though

#

🤷

hazy bronze
#

I think it's the like suffusion camp bread crumb iirc

lusty grotto
#

hmmm

#

perhaps, but its not giving me the quest anyway

#

just a weird icon to put on it

#

i think it just means it'll be available later or something when i level

dusky canopy
toxic pewter
#

Do I want to buy the brew shield from trading post...

#

kinda do O_O

dusky canopy
#

Man speaking of trading post I need to do something to get 400 points I want meh 🦀

lusty grotto
#

cloak etc

toxic pewter
#

wait really

#

WAT

lusty grotto
#

i bought it cause i thought so too

#

and then i was like WHAT THE FUCK

toxic pewter
#

wtf

lusty grotto
#

yeah 😦

#

i think a shield is coming for brewfest though

toxic pewter
#

oh really

#

yah I wanted this for brewfest

#

hmm still wondering if i want this back tho

#

it looks good but not sure i want to overwrite my shield..

waxen frigate
#

There’s a shield mog in the appearance panel

#

But I don’t think it’s available yet

sick sentinel
#

trader thingy

#

its in there now

lusty grotto
#

no its not

#

read my messages

sick sentinel
#

theres also one in the trading post that says its from brewfest

waxen frigate
#

That’s the back

lusty grotto
#

ITS A BACK

waxen frigate
#

There’s an identical or similar one

lusty grotto
#

i just said this like 2 mins ago

waxen frigate
#

Thats a shield in the appearance panel

#

Yeah like

#

Lol

sick sentinel
#

oh right, nvm i keep forgetting this

#

sure looks like shield

lusty grotto
modern brook
#

lets go

lusty grotto
#

lmao

#

not sure which leather class i should level

#

my rogue, dh and druid have been waiting patiently at 61ish

modern brook
#

rogues getting reworked

#

ferals op

#

dh has the illest names

#

i hope that helped you

lusty grotto
#

yeah

#

all 3 seem solid as fuck

#

on the ptr, but i know rogues are bugged

modern brook
#

ferals will get nerfed

#

they're not allowed to be better than boomkin

waxen frigate
#

They were in s1

#

Nobody played them anyway

modern brook
#

and then they got nerfed

#

boomkin was paying for its venthyr sins still s1 anyways

#

doesnt count

waxen frigate
#

Also

toxic pewter
#

oh the shield really does look identical.. great news

modern brook
#

hdh momentum is not fun unless you have major brain damage

waxen frigate
#

Boomie wasn’t even bad season 1 lol

#

Feral was just OP

#

but literally nobody played it anyway

sharp forge
#

Thoughts on the 10.2 tier set, does anyone think it'll make Protection be a go to tank again for WF races due to their set seems so set around raid specifically compared to the other tank tier sets?.

waxen frigate
lusty grotto
#

idk i invited boomys and ferals all the time in s1

south zealot
lusty grotto
#

wanted that motw

waxen frigate
#

They bring the best tanks for their composition

#

Usually filling in buff or utility gaps

#

Because bringing a shit tank is fine to get a raid buff compared to bringing a shit Dps for the same buff

south zealot
#

besides certain cased of double brew its just spellwarding or raid buffs

waxen frigate
#

Like pwarr in Nathria rwf for example

#

It was not good lol

#

But arms and fury were so dogshit that it was played

modern brook
#

according to the dps channels pwar in rwf cause dps sucks again

waxen frigate
#

Because you still need warrior utility

south zealot
#

too early to tell right now though

modern brook
#

yeah i mean i was gunna say that

waxen frigate
#

Yea

modern brook
#

like ultimately making numbers decisions this early in ptr is pointless

waxen frigate
#

I’ve seen some preliminary planning from a certain guild but I doubt that’s even still the same now

#

After the first round of ptr

south zealot
#

nish leaker

#

wtf

waxen frigate
#

🚫

jagged pier
#

making plans after 2 bosses on HC

#

KEK

waxen frigate
#

I mean obv it’s super preliminary

#

So much gonna change

#

But man I’m not looking forward to Augvoker race

jagged pier
#

well of course

#

unless changes come

#

was always going to be that

sharp forge
#

I am just wanting Pwarriors to shine again because idk how bear was acceptable but season 1 warrior was "too broken" is all😮‍💨

jagged pier
#

because Pwarrior was never top anyway

#

was paladin for keys even before the changes

#

and bdk for raid

#

thats why noawh swapped literally week one to bdk for raid

modern brook
#

yeah ppal pre-buffs was actually sleeper broken

#

and then it got buffed

jagged pier
#

just everyone was bedge

modern brook
#

Pwar had baby mode

#

so everyone flocked to it

jagged pier
#

but me and nome who both said it was just being slept on

#

and no one believed us

#

as usual

modern brook
#

I did but only cause my key tank was a ppal and he was owning

violet ginkgo
#

make warrior great again?

jagged pier
#

also just to note we've only had buffs this season

#

from when we were considered broken

violet ginkgo
#

well please warrior be great in this game because it's very not great in gw2

lusty grotto
#

warrior has never been bad

jagged pier
#

i was never saying it was back it just wasnt top

#

warrior is very good right now

lusty grotto
#

and honestly theres an upside to not being meta, we dont get idiot fotm rerollers in here

jagged pier
#

yer S1 was horrible

lusty grotto
#

yea

#

id rather we have a season where every tank is viable

#

and/or picks are done by dungeon

jagged pier
#

well that was last season

lusty grotto
#

or something

jagged pier
#

more than this season

lusty grotto
#

yeah but at push keys

#

so it snowballs down

jagged pier
#

but your never gunna have a season where they are all equal

lusty grotto
#

well let me be clear

#

i should rephrase it as

#

"where every tank is viable in some way by MDI teams or streamers"

#

lol

#

that way we dont get fotm reroller idiots, and getting into keys isn't painful

jagged pier
#

thats never gunna happen theres always going to be one thats better, for some reason

waxen frigate
#

Fotm tanks are despair

#

They’re so fucking bad

jagged pier
#

even if its like 1 thing

lusty grotto
#

yeah for real

waxen frigate
#

Watching paladins never use consecrate or SotR in keys like

lusty grotto
#

but yeah jakey, youre not wrong

waxen frigate
#

Whatcha doin bud

lusty grotto
#

i think the way it would work is if

#

tank players just stopped playing

#

so people would be like fuck just pick the highest io regardless of class

south zealot
#

fotm shadow priests are especially dogshit

#

more dogshit than any other class ever

lusty grotto
#

lol

#

mages honestly

south zealot
#

most mages are just bad to begin with

lusty grotto
#

are especially fucking dogshit

#

yea

south zealot
#

but yeah mage is second for me too

lusty grotto
#

i had huge issues with SPs at the start of the season

#

but it kinda chilled off a bit by the time exodia showed up

lusty grotto
#

mages though... holy fuck

chilly brook
waxen frigate
#

I’m helping my old guild out with sark prog and there’s some drama from the pally tank about getting benched on echo for a vdh tank

#

Took a look at his logs

#

The night he was benched he had roughly 30% consecrate uptime and 80% SotR uptime

lusty tiger
#

O so he forgot to press pally buttons

#

Yikes

strong forum
#

for parsing consecration bad

waxen frigate
strong forum
#

what a legend

chilly brook
#

Sheeeesh

waxen frigate
#

And then goes “well of course I die more than the BDK he has built in cheat”

#

My brother in Christ you have 2 built in cheats and an immunity

chilly brook
#

Bro needs help

#

Mental help

lusty grotto
#

yo griff

lusty grotto
#

does it matter empowering upheaval/breath at all for aug?

#

or just send them

strong forum
#

brother

#

theyre doing s1 dps

chilly brook
lusty grotto
#

word

#

and send them after ebon always

#

or eons

modern brook
chilly brook
#

Can send upheaval at larger if it won’t hit everything but it really doesn’t matter

modern brook
#

Yes but I don't have to see them

jagged pier
#

KEKW

modern brook
#

I can instead watch some idiot fuck up a class I don't understand

chilly brook
#

Ironically I’ve not even been playing aug lately, I’ve been a dev Andy cuz I’ve been blasting on raid nights

modern brook
#

And thats less frustrating

#

And fuels my anti paladin agenda

chilly brook
#

But I don’t think we have a warrior tonight so tonight is my night to make my move

jagged pier
#

they aint gunna let an aur reroll to warrior tho

chilly brook
#

Apparently I do too much dam as Dev lol

jagged pier
#

🤔

chilly brook
#

Aug is better but idk if it’s my micro not being as good as it should be or our DPS not being good enough but I’m doing more as Dev than I did as Aug

jagged pier
#

probably dps

chilly brook
#

Probably

#

For reference, I was dead for about 35 seconds at the end of the fight and this is basically mostly all single target

jagged pier
chilly brook
#

But I was blastin before dying

#

But I mean I’ll still take a 65 on a prog kill

jagged pier
#

then why die?

chilly brook
#

More importantly ask my tank why she took 20+ stacks

jagged pier
waxen frigate
chilly brook
#

How we killed it with that being what happened is beyond me but I’ll take it lol

waxen frigate
#

Truly a Zskarn moment

jagged pier
#

we killed zskarn with me dead for 40s

#

because our paladin died

waxen frigate
jagged pier
#

i was on for rank 1 as well

chilly brook
#

Bro my dog is asleep and dreaming

#

Straight spasming out on my feet

jagged pier
#

tell him to run from me

#

the good boy

chilly brook
#

I’ll make sure to let her know

jagged pier
#

pog

chilly brook
#

She a big gurl

jagged pier
#

she happy

chilly brook
#

As long as she has someone giving her attention she’s happy lol

#

Always walking up and grabbing my hand

chilly brook
#

Bro y’all see that Elon tweet?

jagged pier
#

no im not on twitter

#

never have been

#

seems to be the correct choice

chilly brook
strong forum
#

literal king shit 👑

#

cant tell me otherwise

jagged pier
#

NOICE

chilly brook
#

Fucking lmfao

#

Bro got that rizz

lusty grotto
#

bonkcat amber heard

jagged pier
#

he has money

strong forum
chilly brook
jagged pier
#

u dont need rizz if u have money

steep pivot
#

they, is it worth get 2 points of BB for dam?

jagged pier
#

no

lusty grotto
strong forum
#

well you give up a HUGE chunk of defensives rn

#

if you play BB

steep pivot
#

yes, as prot now i need to stay alive first then i think about dpsing

#

quite liked the last stand tier set! fun

strong forum
#

yeah you dont do that with different talents

steep pivot
#

bolster gets value

#

i just copy pasted wow head build

jagged pier
steep pivot
#

yes im new as prot, im main arms since legion

chilly brook
#

Man still rockin the chad mustache

jagged pier
#

honestly am jealous of that tash

#

same as mwahis mohawk

lusty tiger
steep pivot
#

hahhahah yes! my gf loves it and no one besides her touch it... for trimming and smoches

jagged pier
#

in my heart it is

lusty tiger
chilly brook
#

I thought Mwahi was bald

jagged pier
#

he is but he had that pfp with the beam above his head that made it look like he had a mohawk

steep pivot
#

im about to play first time as prot, bh 17! holy fuck ill spam ip and shield block to stay alive

chilly brook
#

Don’t panic lol 17s this week are comfy

#

Well any week tbh

#

But this week especially

lusty tiger
jagged pier
#

yah shouldnt be spamming

#

might be good to log

steep pivot
#

ive heard is not like arms, pilin on! xD press every CD and blast... ive heard its good to use big def button on each pack

south zealot
#

focus on keeping shield block up and shield slam on cd

#

and youll be fine

chilly brook
#

It’s kinda like arms

#

In that you wanna press shield slam on cd just like MS

steep pivot
#

do we prot really need to stance? i mean the dmg loss by dstance is only 5%

south zealot
#

you should be in battle stance and treat defensive stance as another defensive cooldown

#

however for your first key you may find it more comfortable to sit in defensive stance until you get used to things

chilly brook
#

Here’s the TLDR for you.
Press Avatar and Last Stand on CD.
Press Demoralizing Shout/Dragon Roar/Ravager/Shield Charge on CD
Shield slam>Thunderclap>revenj/IP to dump rage

#

Make sure to press shield block if something is swinging at you

#

That’s about all you need to know

lusty grotto
#

got me some wendys nuggies

steep pivot
#

nice!

chilly brook
steep pivot
#

now i need to aura that tracks my shield block, ip armor and agro percentage

lusty tiger
violet ginkgo
steep pivot
chilly brook
#

Nah not to dump rage

chilly brook
#

You press it on cd

steep pivot
#

ok!

violet ginkgo
chilly brook
lusty tiger
jagged pier
steep pivot
#

sb? shiled block?

chilly brook
#

With tier set you send that shit on CD

#

Yeah

lusty tiger
steep pivot
#

ok!!

jagged pier
#

well if your running bolster which he is u send it on cd

violet ginkgo
#

hmmm I'll try press it on CD next week

#

been pressing it when the DBM told me "Defensive"

lusty grotto
#

uhh...

chilly brook
#

Bruh

lusty grotto
#

this is the guy that wanted prot to be good again

#

lmao

chilly brook
#

Missing out on so much damage

#

I need to try to hit 100k overall on prot without aug or enhance

#

Gotten real close

violet ginkgo
lusty grotto
#

why would you want prot to be good again then

#

kinda seems as if youve been playing the whole time

#

well not really cause you apparently missed the entirety of BFA

violet ginkgo
#

after thunderking raid from MOP I am gone, so totally miss what is after that, aka garrosh raid? then Draenor, Legion, BFA, and Shadowland.

lusty grotto
#

so what is your basis on saying "i just want warrior to be good again" when you could basically tank all of that content without issues

#

you literally missed all M+ expansions

lusty grotto
#

such a weird thing to say

waxen frigate
#

Especially the tank role

dusky canopy
#

Nim!

#

Got some prog last night

#

47% sark

lusty grotto
#

nice

dusky canopy
#

Did you end up raiding with your homie?

lusty grotto
#

havent decided yet

steep pivot
#

ok this is UUR 15 we depleted xD i healed alot with iv coz of last boss.. ppl died and i soloed it... you can see on auras that i got arms gear, i bought 1h and shield withh honor

#

i feel i forget to press some buttons xD there is alot

lusty grotto
#

why would you need IV for last boss

#

you dont need the random resets

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

you can just heroic throw a random spore and get it

steep pivot
#

idk i press tc and adds die and iv full health

lusty grotto
#

also this shot doesnt tell us anything

#

except that your TC and revenges are ridiculously low

steep pivot
#

its just my first dg as prot...

lusty grotto
#

log if you want a better analysis

lusty grotto
#

youre not a BDK

lusty tiger
dusky canopy
#

Yo this krog guy does big numby with arms

#

So he’ll get it

lusty tiger
#

SLAM DN

#

amazing name

lusty grotto
#

also 70% shield block uptime....

dusky canopy
#

First dungeon as Prot we give a pass

#

We like krog

lusty tiger
lusty grotto
#

well he wants criticism, otherwise he wont improve

#

and 70% sb uptime is bad

dusky canopy
#

Dude was showing 200k BH before Aug

#

Guy blasts

lusty tiger
#

pogs

steep pivot
#

yes i want to improve, help me prot gods!

lusty grotto
#

send log

dusky canopy
#

You can’t press SS fast enough

steep pivot
#

lariat and versa wrists xD

lusty grotto
#

70% sb uptime is bad

#

you need 95%

#

or close to 100%

#

revenge and tc super low

lusty tiger
steep pivot
#

we dont WW right? do i remove it w?

lusty grotto
#

remove it

lusty tiger
#

remove ww

dusky canopy
#

Send every single button on CD except SB you use charges wisely
Also ip only to prevent rage cap (you will use it ALOT)

steep pivot
#

nice! sweet! xD

lusty grotto
#

post a log

dusky canopy
#

Nim is right krog

#

Log is the best way for us to advise

steep pivot
#

damn prot gets tons of rage

mighty valley
#

yeah you should never have an empty gcd. always be pressing ss > tc > revenge (other than CDs)

#

yeah you just keep pressing IP so you don't overcap rage

#

the rest goes to revenge

#

me don't start a sentence with "yeah" challenge

steep pivot
#

yeah ty

lusty tiger
#

yeah pog

steep pivot
#

yeah ill log my runs

dusky canopy
#

Braggork go dumby

#

Shield SLAM

#

Or bust

#

Oh right spend outburst on SS unless like 8+ targets

#

Iirc

#

Maybe less

#

Shit I gotta do my homework now

steep pivot
#

slamdn did we chattted on arms channel ? you changed nick? you know me ^^ ❤️

dusky canopy
#

Uh.. Whirlwinning? Brew?

steep pivot
#

WW!! nice!

dusky canopy
#

You and Hroth helped me learn arms

#

Hahaha

#

Good times

steep pivot
#

so u wanna slam buff ? xD jeeez!

dusky canopy
#

No no

#

Slam DN

#

Buff execute*

steep pivot
#

hell yea! nice! skyhold is very good, ppl are super nice

dusky canopy
#

“Super nice”

steep pivot
#

you know eng is not my mother language, so i struggle a bit

dusky canopy
#

I fully understand, just meme

steep pivot
#

i shall fun and games as prot, but im main arms! looking foward to next season

dusky canopy
#

Bro still waiting on that “part 2” for arms remove IP offensively was hopefully just part 1…

opaque quest
#

Remove IP for arms

#

Give heroic strike

dusky canopy
#

Ehhh

#

As long as it’s not the version of it that was classic wow lmao

#

Could you imagine having a qued ability again

#

Literally exiting

modern brook
#

nothing gets me harder than pressing a button and waiting

chilly brook
dusky canopy
#

Krog goat

chilly brook
#

Good guy

opaque quest
dusky canopy
#

You know.. I honestly wouldn’t mind it I don’t think

#

I’d like them to figure out how to not have 9 rotational buttons though

#

But that’s just me

#

Arms*

opaque quest
#

Arms has 9 buttons? Oo

#

Never felt that way

#

But rend AND thunderclap being used feels bad

dusky canopy
#

No it’s not that bad but it could be if we have to add slam and cleave to the bar

daring marlin
#

We love button bloat

opaque quest
#

Slam lmao

#

But ye Cleave feels to much in aoe

daring marlin
#

fuckin' how tho

dusky canopy
#

I haven’t pressed my 4 key in like 3 months

#

(Slam/cleave button)

#

It’s going to feel awkward adding that back in