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which is still too much
hm interesting.
But that's consuming tierset like a god
Just gotta rename to Hercules, and I'll be a half god. THat'll do.
I just feel like they threw the TR effect on there as an afterthought. It's not at all synergistic with the rest of the set.
They were like hey this is a bleed
I smell that they're buffing the TR cdr
If they buff it anywhere near 3sec cdr
Then uproar will be more dmg than UF
In keys
3 sec would be sick
TR is uncapped isn't it?
Ye

With uproar u want to tab as much as possible in demo window
why 👀
Consuming TR with tierset does nothing
Except 2% extra Dr for 5 seconds
On said target
Ye on arms that roar dmg is a bit higher
Any rampage in chat though 
man I'm so psyched about not having fragments anymore next season
A few secs with demo on tr compare tr w/o
just give me my crestssss
Free dmg from no globals
Ah you mean pair demo with TR
But when it s
its like a tiny tiny dps increase
youll get what like 2-3 full TRs in with demo up
depending on SS procs
maybe 4
like thats tiny
Hard to say I didn't rly test uproar on ptr
On aoe
On ST that shit doesn't align whatsoever
well it wont matter on ST anyway cause youll always consume TR with proc anyway
no tabbing to get more in the window if it lines up
I'm still at a loss how tab targeting would increase your damage anyway. Like, whether TR ticks out or it gets consumed, it's doing the same damage no?
because instead of TR ticking outside fo demo so it loose that 20% for the last ticks
Maybe Blizz will notice this issue thanks to new tierset and they will change something about it 
Oh, right
Very very minmaxy shit
I'm not sure Blizzard would consider that an issue Jawor. There are a lot of spells that aren't smart
assuming that SS is your very first global resulting into demo->TR->SS
that means youd need to get a tierset proc for the first SS
and really quickly get more SS resets
over just casting another aoe button
also if you do demo - TR
i think full TR gets demo benefit anyway
I go bedge now. GN friends
Gn
bro getting his 18 hour beauty sleep
that sweet sweet depression sleep
worst part of the morning is waking up
can it be 21st already
what happens then
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Did u try to play w/o extended sb this season? @merry pond
i gave it a shot for 1 dungeon
absolutely hated it
too many gaps
way too much risk for very little gain
I played it in most of dungeons
But a few dungeons u just cant
Like uldaman and underrot
you need to abuse the SS button so fucking hard to not have a gap of SB after 45sec
like absolute madman
to not have a gap
Yep
not worth the effort
youll have to play like pre-DF but also snipe every SS, just to get a minor dps increase talent
not a fan ngl
like at best you get SoF/TL or Bloodsurge
and theyre all the lowest impact talents on our tree
At least it's not boring
i guess
But it s completely unfun in uldaman xd
i tried it in BH
went full pad build
not a fan
like sure i lived cuz it was low key
but taking naked hits
is no bueno
Which is not gut
this train does not stop
especially in BH
i only had 77% blocked hits in that key 
ohnoes
Nah it s just deadge if not blocking fr
If it makes you feel any better I know a tank that on a good day can get his shield block uptime into double digits
dumb lore question but most of the story is gatekept behind renown-questlines right
not really, I mean you can see what renown unlock what quest
I think only 6 quests related to renown? at least that is what displayed
There are a few quest lines behind expedition thingy
That seem pretty story relevant
Like you find alot out about ysera
hey protection warlords!! my friends, do you think prot war may be good or even decent to play high keys next season?
yes
will they be what teams use to push the highest keys possible? probably not
will they be able to do the same level keys - surely
ew i have no renown with those dudes lol
It’s too early to say
ysera story is behind valdrakken accord
But based on what extremely limited info we have from testing it looks very good
whats the new tier? let me check
its in the pins
It’s insane single target damage
Eh its like a 12% increase in ST
Over current set
Actually no
What am I saying
8%
morning
It's ~8% increase from current set
with 4 set and punish we'll in theory have 14-16% + 9-15% dr a prio target too right?
That’s a lot
i don't know thr maths on how to put the two together 
It's just slightly less than addition
isn't ysera from the valdrakken renown 19?
Bruh idk
I've barely paid attention
I just speedrun through quests every now and again
There are some quests from renown I don't have access to yet
i like to follow the story 🙂
also i never played 8.3 did people default on going left side to priestess in Atal Dazar instead of right side to volkal?
cus i remember right side being annoying as
Tanked a few heroic bosses on prot last night for the first time to help out an alt run
TFW get hit with calamitous strike
Charge back in
End up on the wrong side of the boss and just get smoked with a melee to the back

I thought it was Rezan insta then head to Volkaal clearing trash along the way to get lust back
then priest lady cause priest lady was piss easy
thats what i always did in bfa
but saw some teams dabble with different routes
going rezan to priestess or even priestess > rezan
there are for sure options in that dungeon
I think you could do a big pull to the left as soon as you entered the dungeon
there were different routes
rezan 1st was the default route
and those undead doods hurt
Could also do Rezan with lust+trash
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depends on group
where shotgun
and then there was the Saurid thing
jump up on a fire or on top of the wall to group em up so they dont jump on your friends
thats the pug snap
which was cursed on sanguine
a lot of these wont work anymore
saurids still snap but they are slower
so it might not be convenient
and a lot of trash got reworked like the removed honor guard in front of vol'kaal
Depends if the saurids still one shot people
I hope there will be some juicy spellreflects to do in new season 
Wcm 4th boss reflect is gone
But witches still work
Brh there are very few casts, none on bosses
Dht there are basically no reflects
Atal has dot reflect on priest boss
lord waycrest? you can still reflect
I was told you can't
@mellow bridge
Muyuu just bad or
probably saw the first one
cause dorki said "you cant reflect it anymore?"
but then he tried again and it reflected
i can look for the clip
Then pwar hardlocked again for Wcm tyr pushing
yea that's actually what happened
just saw the first one and heard him saying it
lmao
i havent played ptr so cant be bad 

Hi Muyuu
Dorki only played pwar for 0.3 seasons
So it's not unlikely to miss
hi ahri
before that is when he asked if he couldn't reflect anymore
Wait why does he use SR so late
Have a beautiful day 💕
He almost missed it again
no idea
yea weird stuff
u2 cutie
maybe looking for ways to break it
He even says use he's going to use it as late as possible
Why
Just kick lady if she's casting on you
i thought he was talking about spell queueing
hes only playing with 2 people that he knows
SR is 5sec shorter CD than in bfa
so its probably because he doesnt trust kicks
Pig boss change is interesting
what did they change?
Instead of getting dmg buff from consuming add, he just applies a nasty dot on tank
D:
So boss doesn't scale out of control if you miss an add
Wcm?
just reflect it kappa
I wish
But they thought of that
Dot only lasts 8sec tho
So is fine
Or well, I think it's only on tank
Idk if the group also gets slapped
im still mad about that bullshit that happened on bf5 last night
i do love absurd glitches espcially MP games, but that one was a complete L every possible metric, didnt even record properly
cant wait to see videos about the pig boss, i assume its part of raid.
Nah that's just waycrest manor
Second boss in VP is a PITA with Entangling
I just sit in a corner waiting for tomorrow, just like yesterday
Rioting is for losers anyway
oh u mean the banquet boss?
before the world got cancelled we just called him the fat boss💀
Nish you are slammin bro!
but, i came up with a new term since its not really correct thing to say
actually 96 🤓
that boss isnt hard, its really really easy if you have a mage or hunter or shaman
no, we didnt
hex sheep trap, etc, others work well too, stuns.
Had to be the insane p3 padding
we always called him pig boss
Nish once again finds out
That tank parsing is a joke
You had shit loads of adds up it seems
Your rend did 3k dps more than mine
This was an alt raid in a guild that is struggling on mythic sark currently so Dps wasn’t the highest
My cotank Was 8/9M raider
Who did half my dmg
And taunted the boss at insanely dumbass times
And killed like 4 people with it
Lol
And ruined wall breaks so we had to afk alot
Like how the fuck
Are you 8/9m
And this bad
He let jesus take the wheel
Tbf I wiped my new guild on alt heroic echo because I hadn’t done heroic in like
Literally 4+ months
And had no idea when we were gonna phase
And moved the boss too late
pancakes own
So I just played like it was mythic after that and we vibed
Heroic Nelth is such a pain
cause you could honestly move so much faster in p2.... but you sort of are forced to wait for spell ques

I like echo fight
U think?
only cause people can troll dispel and wipe the whole raid
I find that one to be easier out of sheer brute forcing the mechanics correctly
Yea that’s true too
It’s easy to troll but also easy to do correct
but both of those can happen on normal
And u still win
its just the dispel thing really
Ya
its an easy fight dont get me wrong
i just wouldn't say echo is anywhere near it in comparison with troll wipe mechanics
i mean i guess you could just beacon mind controls
LOL
and/or miss the tank breaks lmao
isnt echo nelth?
yes?
so Im confused by the ???; Heroic Echo is a pain and was a pain when I still did it; and Im glad I dont have to do it anymore
so?
im so confused, you've done mythic and you think heroic echo is a pain?
its not hard; its a pain in my ass
No way that’s on all star
I dont think those are the same things
Similarly to vigilant guardian heroic is more annoying/a pain in the ass than mythic
so inconsistent lol
Also on heroic in particular there’s a bug
That I’ve never noticed in mythic
When breaking p2 walls
Fairly often in heroic I will end up on the other side of the wall with no hole
And I’m like ???
bro
every single fucking time someone says that
its cause they miss it like a noob
every time
How do I miss it
in every single pug ive been in
When I’m literally
Across the wall from the group
Like what
Think about what you’re saying
How the fuck can I miss the wall
When I ran through it to get to where I am
And it only ever happens in p2
did you get sundered near the arena wall?
As in the natural wall?
yes
?
Nish is a ghost confirmed
Nice try ghost
Or in this case he's the wall
He focused so hard on breaking the wall that he became the wall
imo both Echo and Vigilant were pretty cool on mythic and dogshit on hc
The WA debacle kind of ruins mythic echo for me
But you do need to wait for everyone else to fix theirs
And repeat every time you get someone new in
Doesn’t change the fact the rest of the raid does
doesnt matter to me
boss was pretty fun
Tbf we decided to change which ones we using for some reason on the reclear so we got 2x the fun
@south zealot tried out your build for arms. I liked it, doesn’t feel to bad dropping mass and a point in bb to bs/hurricane in all keys
Natty sks build without BS feels kinda meh on trash
bladestorm hurricane is only a couple thousand dps loss
it seems like its more than it is but its minor
Don't play Nish's build. It's cursed.
Nah it’s based
nish build 💯 good
yes
TBF, i had come back from a panda to 8.0 break
the entire game was basically new to me
still was taking game in at that point
took me while to even realize what half the things were in BFA
yogi this conversation ended 2 hours ago
wastn panda 7.0?
pig boss im more accustom to is the like, boar model
you said before it got cancelled, nobody cancelled anything lmao
it was always pig boss period
well, i said it was before the world got canceled, but ya lol
i dunno you didnt notice in the last couple years we got extremely PC
like the world in general
no
removing greenskins, is a recent victim of it
and this is not the place for anything that sounds political
as a recent example
i just figured that there was possibly some cool new boar model raid boss, got infused by something
you can check out the messages from that time
and then im..... huh....?? pig boss? waycrest........ oh ya.....
i don't typically call it the pig boss
never really did
called it banquet
as i said earlier, again, you can scroll up an check it out
because i have to actually look at it for more than 5 seconds to realize "oh its a pig"
i never liked waycrest
ppl hype it up and idrgi
narrow and nothing really fun
tree boss is like the only thing thats ok
its memorable and fairly forgiving even though it looks like it should be hard
thats why
and an immaculate haunted house vibe
BOO, HAUNTED HOUSE
well waycrest is aids on sanguine
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except for sanguine
last boss was just a big whatever
like if you got there
run was done
i dont think ive ever wiped there
that don't kill the adds and use the torch at wrong time, or don't kicke darkened lightning
that shit fuckin hurts btw
tyranical = it isn't kicked, you die/wipe
one thing to interrupt in the entire fight
yes, but it hurts like hell, trust me
its a miracle you even got to the boss to begin with if no one interrupts it
hits like, more than 1 player at least i know
its a huge prio issue on that boss not to let it go through
Lean quest
must be an addon or something
Isnt it for allied races
I think it's the like suffusion camp bread crumb iirc
hmmm
perhaps, but its not giving me the quest anyway
just a weird icon to put on it
i think it just means it'll be available later or something when i level
It looks like a “eh probably not worth my time” icon
Man speaking of trading post I need to do something to get 400 points I want meh 🦀
its not a shield its a back
cloak etc
wtf
oh really
yah I wanted this for brewfest
hmm still wondering if i want this back tho
it looks good but not sure i want to overwrite my shield..
theres also one in the trading post that says its from brewfest
That’s the back
ITS A BACK
There’s an identical or similar one
i just said this like 2 mins ago
wow the shiels coming back ?
lets go
lmao
not sure which leather class i should level
my rogue, dh and druid have been waiting patiently at 61ish
rogues getting reworked
ferals op
dh has the illest names
i hope that helped you
and then they got nerfed
boomkin was paying for its venthyr sins still s1 anyways
doesnt count
Also
oh the shield really does look identical.. great news
hdh momentum is not fun unless you have major brain damage
Boomie wasn’t even bad season 1 lol
Feral was just OP
but literally nobody played it anyway
Thoughts on the 10.2 tier set, does anyone think it'll make Protection be a go to tank again for WF races due to their set seems so set around raid specifically compared to the other tank tier sets?.
WF tanking is almost always unrelated to tank balance
idk i invited boomys and ferals all the time in s1
momentum id the best talent in the game
wanted that motw
They bring the best tanks for their composition
Usually filling in buff or utility gaps
Because bringing a shit tank is fine to get a raid buff compared to bringing a shit Dps for the same buff
yeah
besides certain cased of double brew its just spellwarding or raid buffs
Like pwarr in Nathria rwf for example
It was not good lol
But arms and fury were so dogshit that it was played
according to the dps channels pwar in rwf cause dps sucks again
Because you still need warrior utility
its possible
too early to tell right now though
yeah i mean i was gunna say that
Yea
like ultimately making numbers decisions this early in ptr is pointless
I’ve seen some preliminary planning from a certain guild but I doubt that’s even still the same now
After the first round of ptr
🚫
I mean obv it’s super preliminary
So much gonna change
But man I’m not looking forward to Augvoker race
I am just wanting Pwarriors to shine again because idk how bear was acceptable but season 1 warrior was "too broken" is all😮💨
because Pwarrior was never top anyway
was paladin for keys even before the changes
and bdk for raid
thats why noawh swapped literally week one to bdk for raid
just everyone was 
but me and nome who both said it was just being slept on
and no one believed us
as usual
I did but only cause my key tank was a ppal and he was owning
make warrior great again?
also just to note we've only had buffs this season
from when we were considered broken

well please warrior be great in this game because it's very not great in gw2
warrior has never been bad
and honestly theres an upside to not being meta, we dont get idiot fotm rerollers in here
yer S1 was horrible
yea
id rather we have a season where every tank is viable
and/or picks are done by dungeon
well that was last season
or something
more than this season
but your never gunna have a season where they are all equal
well let me be clear
i should rephrase it as
"where every tank is viable in some way by MDI teams or streamers"
lol
that way we dont get fotm reroller idiots, and getting into keys isn't painful
thats never gunna happen theres always going to be one thats better, for some reason
even if its like 1 thing
yeah for real
but yeah jakey, youre not wrong
Whatcha doin bud
i think the way it would work is if
tank players just stopped playing
so people would be like fuck just pick the highest io regardless of class
most mages are just bad to begin with
but yeah mage is second for me too
i had huge issues with SPs at the start of the season
but it kinda chilled off a bit by the time exodia showed up
mages though... holy fuck
Yeah man warrior is so bad it’s totally not doing 29s and 30s
Ok also you wanna hear some funny shit
I’m helping my old guild out with sark prog and there’s some drama from the pally tank about getting benched on echo for a vdh tank
Took a look at his logs
The night he was benched he had roughly 30% consecrate uptime and 80% SotR uptime
Brother this man runs full Dps build and gear and gray parsed
what a legend
Sheeeesh
And then goes “well of course I die more than the BDK he has built in cheat”
My brother in Christ you have 2 built in cheats and an immunity
yo griff
Basically always empower breath fully if you can and upheaval just send at r1
Dude it's the worst when prot is fotm cause u get people who do not maintain sb
Can send upheaval at larger if it won’t hit everything but it really doesn’t matter
theres ppl that do that now
Yes but I don't have to see them
KEKW
I can instead watch some idiot fuck up a class I don't understand
Ironically I’ve not even been playing aug lately, I’ve been a dev Andy cuz I’ve been blasting on raid nights
Dev really now
Apparently I do too much dam as Dev lol
🤔
Aug is better but idk if it’s my micro not being as good as it should be or our DPS not being good enough but I’m doing more as Dev than I did as Aug
probably dps
Probably
For reference, I was dead for about 35 seconds at the end of the fight and this is basically mostly all single target


then why die?
Idk ask my healers
More importantly ask my tank why she took 20+ stacks


Insert recent Gromnak clip here
How we killed it with that being what happened is beyond me but I’ll take it lol
Truly a Zskarn moment
I’ll make sure to let her know
pog
As long as she has someone giving her attention she’s happy lol
Always walking up and grabbing my hand
Bro y’all see that Elon tweet?
NOICE
amber heard
he has money
that money rizz
Her mercy could abuse me
u dont need rizz if u have money
they, is it worth get 2 points of BB for dam?
no
her mercy could shit on my bed np
yes, as prot now i need to stay alive first then i think about dpsing
quite liked the last stand tier set! fun
yeah you dont do that with different talents

yes im new as prot, im main arms since legion
Man still rockin the chad mustache
Is this real?
hahhahah yes! my gf loves it and no one besides her touch it... for trimming and smoches
: D
I thought Mwahi was bald
he is but he had that pfp with the beam above his head that made it look like he had a mohawk
im about to play first time as prot, bh 17! holy fuck ill spam ip and shield block to stay alive
Don’t panic lol 17s this week are comfy
Well any week tbh
But this week especially
Don’t use ip unless you’re about to cap on rage
ive heard is not like arms, pilin on! xD press every CD and blast... ive heard its good to use big def button on each pack
do we prot really need to stance? i mean the dmg loss by dstance is only 5%
you should be in battle stance and treat defensive stance as another defensive cooldown
however for your first key you may find it more comfortable to sit in defensive stance until you get used to things
Here’s the TLDR for you.
Press Avatar and Last Stand on CD.
Press Demoralizing Shout/Dragon Roar/Ravager/Shield Charge on CD
Shield slam>Thunderclap>revenj/IP to dump rage
Make sure to press shield block if something is swinging at you
That’s about all you need to know
got me some wendys nuggies
nice!
Never really been impressed with their nuggies
now i need to aura that tracks my shield block, ip armor and agro percentage
Just need to track shield block and use colored nameplates (red/yellow/green) for aggro data
I think you still in the defensive to take aggro? there is aggro modifier there if I am not mistaken
@chilly brook hey bro, u said i need to prioritize SS to dump rage? but it generates!
Nah not to dump rage
U are mistaken
You press it on cd
ok!
wait2 last stand is pressed on CD? isn't that used for defensive or something?
Revenge and IP are your dumps
Depends if u have the current tierset
Not with tier set
no its part of your sb rotation
sb? shiled block?
Yes
ok!!
well if your running bolster which he is u send it on cd
hmmm I'll try press it on CD next week
been pressing it when the DBM told me "Defensive"
uhh...
Bruh
Missing out on so much damage
I need to try to hit 100k overall on prot without aug or enhance
Gotten real close
Well I just return from MOP so yeah my experience is very low compared to you 🙂
why would you want prot to be good again then
kinda seems as if youve been playing the whole time
well not really cause you apparently missed the entirety of BFA
after thunderking raid from MOP I am gone, so totally miss what is after that, aka garrosh raid? then Draenor, Legion, BFA, and Shadowland.
so what is your basis on saying "i just want warrior to be good again" when you could basically tank all of that content without issues
you literally missed all M+ expansions
Game has changed a lot
such a weird thing to say
Especially the tank role
nice
Did you end up raiding with your homie?
havent decided yet
ok this is UUR 15 we depleted xD i healed alot with iv coz of last boss.. ppl died and i soloed it... you can see on auras that i got arms gear, i bought 1h and shield withh honor
i feel i forget to press some buttons xD there is alot
post talents, also start logging
you can just heroic throw a random spore and get it
idk i press tc and adds die and iv full health
also this shot doesnt tell us anything
except that your TC and revenges are ridiculously low
its just my first dg as prot...
log if you want a better analysis
you dont need it
youre not a BDK
the sooner you start pressing enough of the correct buttons, the better
also 70% shield block uptime....
send log
pogs
yes i want to improve, help me prot gods!
send log
You can’t press SS fast enough
lariat and versa wrists xD
- never miss a ss proc
- never overcap rage
we dont WW right? do i remove it w?
remove it
remove ww
Send every single button on CD except SB you use charges wisely
Also ip only to prevent rage cap (you will use it ALOT)
nice! sweet! xD
post a log
damn prot gets tons of rage
yeah you should never have an empty gcd. always be pressing ss > tc > revenge (other than CDs)
yeah you just keep pressing IP so you don't overcap rage
the rest goes to revenge
me don't start a sentence with "yeah" challenge
yeah ty
yeah pog
yeah ill log my runs
Braggork go dumby
Shield SLAM
Or bust
Oh right spend outburst on SS unless like 8+ targets
Iirc
Maybe less
Shit I gotta do my homework now
slamdn did we chattted on arms channel ? you changed nick? you know me ^^ ❤️
Uh.. Whirlwinning? Brew?
WW!! nice!
so u wanna slam buff ? xD jeeez!
hell yea! nice! skyhold is very good, ppl are super nice
“Super nice”
you know eng is not my mother language, so i struggle a bit
i shall fun and games as prot, but im main arms! looking foward to next season
Bro still waiting on that “part 2” for arms remove IP offensively was hopefully just part 1…

Ehhh
As long as it’s not the version of it that was classic wow lmao
Could you imagine having a qued ability again
Literally exiting
nothing gets me harder than pressing a button and waiting
Krog helped me learn arms too a long time ago

Good guy
MOP heroic strike and im good
You know.. I honestly wouldn’t mind it I don’t think
I’d like them to figure out how to not have 9 rotational buttons though
But that’s just me
Arms*
Arms has 9 buttons? Oo
Never felt that way
But rend AND thunderclap being used feels bad
No it’s not that bad but it could be if we have to add slam and cleave to the bar
We love button bloat
fuckin' how tho






